Episode 385 - Pierce Dominates the Dome, Donny Finds a Ride and The WoO Schedule Is Out!

It was on. I had everything unplugged, so I'm looking at the sound levels here. See if we're talking. It might be a little quiet to start this one.

I hope you're all doing well. We got Thanksgiving done. Now we got Christmas coming up. Santa Claus is coming. Santa Claus is coming. The rumble in Fort Wayne is coming. Don't miss past, PRI is coming. Although, PRI doesn't seem like there's much to look forward to anymore, because all the schedules are pretty much out now. It used to be PRI.

We've got some racing stuff coming this winter yet, but before we get too far, I got to say thank you to the old 10-11 team, Mr. Josh Harrison, for delivering my merchandise I bought. I don't know. May or June or something. Never crossed past to pick it up, which I said, just give it to Dwayne some time. Apparently that time was last week.

I want to talk to you. But better late than never. It's not the Harrison team's fault. It was my fault. And I didn't care. They got my money, so I was like, yep, if I don't get it until next year, I don't care. Moral stories should buy a crown battery.

Yeah, well, that's what the thank you not goes not so much for the stuff I bought, but the stuff I didn't buy that Josh was nice enough to throw in the back. So I got a crown battery hoodie and a golf quarter zip. So thanks a lot, Josh. I appreciate that stuff, man.

It's a nice shit too. It's not the cheap shit. So crown battery does it right? Yeah, what it shows me is right out there and buy some crown batteries if you're in the market for one. And all places sells them too. Oh, yeah, probably a little overpriced at that place. I should shop them around a little bit. No, go ahead, shop around.

But anyway, thanks to the 1011 team. I'm just I just got the merch, though. So I'm really hoping they don't change the color scheme of the car.

I don't actually purpose. Yeah, but regardless, regardless. Yeah, it's true. There you go. Maybe that shit should have said that out loud, maybe. But yeah, see. Yes, got my merch and in a little extra. So I appreciate it. Yes, Christmas is coming. So maybe it's Josh's way of the truce trying to get us to talk about how brains faster than he ever was. I don't know.

But you know, look, Josh is him this time, not me. The brain's already got him beat because I've seen the car out like three, four weeks in a row. So let's go to super Dave's help.

Oh, okay. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Well, there's that. But yeah, it's a super day, you know, because he knew talent. Mr.

The generations. Yeah, yeah, it's not. Well, there's another person coming along to you, Peyton. Oh, yeah, it's his daughter racing some gold carts. Yeah. Yeah.

So all kinds of stuff. So it's not a it's not a podcast without making fun of the old 1011 teams. Right.

Um, we'll let you know we got dog in here. So if you hear weird sounds or barking or whatnot, that's him. So we should we keep a class here on here.

He's put on paper the other day. So the dogs.

There's never each other, but dumbass dog. Well, they weren't from watching you. Yeah.

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All right, well speaking of the dome people you met didn't meet.

What happened this weekend? Dwayne was there was a.

Well, yeah, because I go to races.

Yeah, yeah, some of us aren't rich and you know, on multi billion dollar businesses.

Right, but you let me know who on smaller than $1,000.

Hey, you do, man, you do.

You saw a lot of crown batteries I hear.

That's right.

Yeah, another dome.

Yes, Gateway dirt nationals up and down.

I mean, I thought it was good.

I thought, you know, it's funny because you see all the shit talkers.

Yeah, you know, on and it's not for you, then okay.

But is there going to be some chaos.

Yeah, there can be some wrinkled vendors obviously.

I mean, it's a short, it's a fifth mile track.

I don't care if you go to make in or wherever you go.

Little small tracks. Guess what? They bump in bank.

Yeah.

And I know I was good.

There's free ride wide racing.

There's passing all three qualifying nights are all three nights.

There's some guys.

And the heat races coming from deep in the field.

You know, I mean.

Yes, was there some chaos?

Was they tearing shit up?

Yeah, they tore a lot of shit up, but that's the dome.

You know, like Bronson, he got stuff in if it's hard by Brendan Smith.

It was all pissed off.

And then he goes, hey, you come to the dome.

You know, that's how we like racing.

Yeah, that's how you do it at the dome.

I mean, that's just where it is.

I mean.

Hudson and Kyle had a very interesting interview.

Yeah, six.

Yes.

Then I liked the action when you're a driver intro.

Then when Kyle slammed through a table.

Yeah, yeah.

Brendan Smith shared on and Kyle come in and you know, did some wrestling news,

putting through a table on them.

And did you see Brendan Smith come out with the Bronson shirt on it and said.

He tore it open.

Yeah, I said, high bread killer or something like that.

A career per bread killer.

Yeah.

I guarantee a Bronson pride game shirt.

Yeah.

Yeah, so a little bit of fun.

Strickler had to share it for the rest of the evening.

Yep.

So there's a special guest and people and fun.

Did you see his part of food and health walk out?

Was it?

I think he's driving around these sanders, I think.

He was wearing a striped suit or whatever.

Yeah, I had free, free me, pay me, Barry, Brian, I need to pay all money.

Yeah.

But the cops walked out with him to the rest of the first time.

That was cool.

Yeah.

So on the on the nights or Thursday night, we saw Bobby Pierce win.

Yes.

The modified.

I'm sorry, late models, Ricky Thornton one of the modifiers.

Second night.

Mike Harrison one of the modifiers.

RGJ won the late models and then.

Bobby Pierce swept the weekend in the late models.

One in.

Go on.

Wire wire wire.

Yeah.

And then Ricky Thornton Jr.

finished off the modifiers.

Two in itself.

Yeah.

No matter what they tried, they couldn't get to him.

But yeah.

So he got 80K on the weekend.

RGJ swept the modifiers.

His first repeat winner.

The champion of the modifiers is Pierce's third win.

Win in the dome.

But yeah.

I mean, I thought it was good racing.

Mike Harrison.

Man, he was locked in with late model and modified.

Yeah.

That's okay.

Yeah.

What was it?

Swin six.

24 or something like that for.

Crazy.

Um.

And he is very emotional about it.

It just shows you the dome.

And you had a lot of.

New guys.

First year they're making the Saturday night in Maine.

You had a.

Zach Dom.

Mm hmm.

Brandon Smith.

Um, see who else is new there.

Was that rice's first start?

No, he was their last.

That's right.

Ethan Dobson.

That's him.

Yup.

And uh, who's the bar?

Raced his way in.

He looked pretty good all weekend.

Got 10th place famous.

Raced his way in.

Uh.

And kept Jason Fager from crying for three hours on video this time.

Yeah.

Everything.

And then Kauffman had a hell of a run with his shitty qualifying.

Yeah.

So Devon Moran.

I mean, he went through the non-qualifiers.

And then.

And end up into the last win at if.

You know, made it through the B main to get into the.

Winning.

And then and missed it by one.

And then you got the provisional.

Um.

Want to pass through our provisional and I ended up a certain 20th and up 9th.

Yeah.

And we had.

You know, it's part of the talk.

I don't know what it was.

Um, at the actual event, but online, the fence was a big.

Yeah, talk because they kind of leaned in a little this year and.

Yeah, one they made the post.

Super strong this year.

They used thicker posts and heavier posts.

Cause you know, they had like four or five cars go out.

Yeah.

And the cable, too.

They said they had.

Five cables instead of four.

Well, they added thicker to the bottom, thinner to the top.

And so yeah, it was.

The posts were not bending.

But the cars were.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah, cause they banked the track a little this year.

Cause they said it's four foot wider.

Cause they had a little bit of a bank.

This whole thing, which.

Big Hoffman and a couple of guys.

Like we don't like the bank is now you can get a run.

And they said you don't get advantage on the bottom of three and four.

Now, it's just enough of banking.

You can get a little run off the top.

Right.

You know.

And so that will probably go on next year or else the bottom will be but up more.

I'm the way it sounds.

But.

Yeah, I mean, I thought it was good racing.

I love the event.

I think it's awesome.

All the new wraps.

All the excitement.

It's the best opening ceremonies and their racing period.

And yes, isn't a little show.

Yes.

Is there chaos?

Yes.

Is there a full contact racing at times risk.

But there's actual racing racing.

If you've never been there, TV don't do a justice in all reality.

Reclavery once race next year.

And that's what he said.

He was man coming here.

TV doesn't know justice.

Yeah.

He's been there before, but image it.

Yes.

And they had them for a couple of years.

But.

Yeah.

I mean, 100 and I think it ended up being 123 late models.

Yeah.

And then 31 mods one day.

I think 34 or the other.

Which those were invite.

Yes.

It's quite field anyway.

Yeah.

If you look guys.

That was supposed to be like Tristan Chamberlain then show up.

Cody over 10.

Few people like to have all that many Falcon.

Was it.

On the list.

And he showed up.

Well, Dylan Scott is there.

He was there again.

That's why I end up.

No, Dylan Scott was.

Before he was huge on the country music scene.

Because he went there.

He's been going there like ever since the start of the game.

Yeah.

And many Falcon are real good friends in his monster.

Manny's card.

You know, many.

I'm sure he called them.

They had room because you know the couple guys were not going.

So many Falcon enough running.

Well, yeah.

I mean, I think it's a great event.

I think they do a great job.

Obviously, when it started with the first year they have like 10 or 12 people.

And now they have 40,000.

Yeah.

Nine years.

So it was that big of a shit show.

Do you think people would keep going back in cars?

I mean, you got 120 plus late models showing up.

And that's restricting the field.

Yeah.

Everybody's pitching.

Yeah.

They had 500 and some people applying up.

Applications are already going in.

Rusty.

Carter Shank already posted today that they signed up for next year.

Of getting in.

You know, so.

I think they did.

You know, I was kind of worried.

When they was picking.

Okay, we're all picking so many.

Because part of the door.

You have the don't darlings, you know, like Carter Shank was, you know,

Patrick Daniels and other one always has cool shirts, always.

Other carpenter.

Uh, Charlie Medford.

You know, you got these guys that aren't really that popular.

I become popular by either winning or like Medford was stupid.

You can't park here.

You know, and these guys sell thousands.

Well, and Cody even brought that up.

And a lot of the other guys did because.

If you seen on Thursday, there was a big merch problem because.

The guys were cheating their spaces.

And I got a couple of sand.

Oh, yeah.

And they announced the first thing in the morning, no vendor sales.

You know, well, they have team meeting until this meeting is over.

And it says if you don't go down to your sizes because some of the fire accents

was blocked that in the building code first aid kits.

Yeah.

And the building inspectors, which we all know people in St. Louis, some of the city people don't see like they like it that well.

Yeah.

So they're looking for anything.

And Cody's like, if you don't comply with the rules, you're just qualified for the weekend.

You're hard on race.

You're not selling shit and you're not racing.

Yes.

But these guys do thousands upon thousands.

And it's raining shepherd.

John, the down part by my peers.

I'd like to see what they make.

Yeah.

Pears especially.

Oh my gosh.

I guarantee you they.

I mean, he probably he wanted 80,000 races.

I'm actually did that much of merch.

Yeah.

It's big deal.

Well, that's what it said.

It's the biggest like Nick Hoffman said he goes, we have a.

He goes, it's the most prep for any race we do.

And he says, we bring her like our warehouse with us.

He says, we do more merch that weekend than we do all year combined.

Mm hmm.

You know, and then but you get these little guys that are selling because they come out with cool wraps.

So I mean, the wraps this year were just off the chain.

It was awesome.

It was fun.

Cool thing.

You know, it doesn't affect anyone necessarily don't think much about it.

But Bobby Pierce had to fall out rap.

Yes.

Well, that.

Nuke Cola and all that shit is made by Jones soda.

Jones soda is using a carton to sell that in.

You know, you're soon.

You can buy it.

Whatever that carton is made by the company my wife works for.

Yeah.

Here in our school.

So I knew about that Jones soda campaign, you know, a couple of weeks, you know,

month or month and a half ago, because it's a big deal.

Uh-huh.

And then so I showed her that and said it to her today show this people at work.

Yeah.

And then Bobby came out drinking it and everything.

So yeah, it was cool deal.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, so I mean, it's an event.

Yes, it's an event in the racing.

You know, I think the racing is good.

I like tight bouldering racing.

Is there some crashes?

Is there some extra delays because it crashes and some unnecessary crashes?

Yeah.

Sounds bad as it was though.

No.

Yeah.

The only thing I don't like about it.

There's one thing, but it's not the dome alone.

It's the stupidest ass dirt late mile racing.

Rule in the world and dome coins reminds you of that because it happens that dome more

than anywhere is one.

Somebody crashes on the first lap.

It's like a play restart.

Yeah.

That's a car.

F is more like car because there's a couple guys starting on the front row,

stepped under decks and spun out in front of the whole field.

And three or four other guys either spun the Voidam or Angela bit.

And, you know, when they're starting 14 cars, 13, 14 cars and heat.

Those other guys negotiate pass that pass all those guys didn't crash.

Then they got to go all the way back to the end because of the, well,

there's multi cars.

You get your spot back.

If somebody starts on the front row and spins out in front of the field,

it's got somebody else spins the Voidam, but it should be the tail.

Yeah.

I mean, that is a dumbest rule.

A lot of times when you saw this, the guy in front would get half ass sideways.

Yes.

I don't believe it, but then four cars behind him pile it.

It's like they didn't even get the brunt of their own mistakes.

Yes.

But that rule, you know, I always forget about that rule because you see it a couple of times

during the season.

You don't think much about it.

You rules used a lot.

Yeah.

And it's like, come on.

Well, unlike, well, it's car or slight the one night.

He, he negotiated through all of it.

And I have to do it.

I think three, three different, I think that's the one that restarted three different times.

And I was like, all these guys are crashing of these guys are crashing.

And they negotiate through the accident.

Why should they be penalized?

Yeah.

Speaking of wraps, it was, it was a year for, for some cool wraps for sure, but it was $1,000 win now.

Yeah.

But it was kind of disappointing for a couple of them, Mike Marlar, being one.

Yeah.

Max from destruction.

He definitely lived up to that.

He got that.

I think I cut the car back out.

Did they get that car back?

Yeah.

You sure was that one?

Because that one had chassis.

Oh, yeah.

That ain't shit.

Because he got a, a, usually his brother's car.

I saw that.

Well, then they got the car back.

He barks like, oh, that's just out of gas.

Yeah.

They worked their ass off.

You get it back.

Okay.

And so I'm Garrett Albertson.

Yeah.

Albertson, as I saw, and then Nick Hoffman, his opening of night, um, just barely got defense with the right rear.

And it took the whole right side off.

Came out.

Well, if I'd like shit.

I had to start back on the, he ended up second transferring into the feature and then started front row of a B main and made it in show.

I mean, there was a lot of passing.

If it wasn't a race, there wouldn't be a ton of passing cars run three wide without crashing.

Sometimes four wide.

Yeah.

Um, I know.

I love it.

I think it's a great.

Brandon Overson was another one that had the wrap and had mechanical issues and really didn't see it much.

I think it was a little rough, Joseph joiner, blue their engines set up.

Two four behind.

Third or fourth quick.

And he says, we could've changed everything.

But they worry because he goes, how bad do you want?

He changed the engine and he had to change the oil system all out.

And like, so we couldn't, we couldn't change the engine.

But he goes the oil system would not happen.

And then you're behind all weekend.

Joiners said we don't have another motor.

But if it did, we probably do what Turbo did and just screw it.

So.

So yeah, and it seems like every year there's a big shot because it's happened over to before it happened

Not so neon things there's you know

When

Faker had his breakdown crying fit, you know, that happened

Him I mean it's happened to a handful of people the other one to enter English

Yeah, man

He got shit in a couple deals

Yeah, would you think of Christmas tree? Oh, that was awesome. That was cool. Yeah, he's fast-timing hot lots of yeah

Yeah, that was an interesting thing to turn the TV on and go what the hell?

Yeah, yeah, they had a DJ and I was like you better watch the trees

Everybody's gonna be wanting to pull it on for qualifying and it comes out with it and split yeah, but yeah

I mean, I mean people's gonna bitch about but I like it. I like it. I think it's a good race

I like the I like the spoiler setups guys were yes sucking the right ears in or you know slapping

Maybe they'll do the fence different next year and I told it then

Did I hear it right they said they did that to try to help dirt from leaving the track well to help I

Mean cuz that car's you don't leave the track

Well, that's what I thought was okay

They let me track so much keep it in I get it, but then I heard that's something about not getting as much dirt on the floor

And I'm like you have how many tons of it already like what gives a shit if it's on the outside right I mean obviously

Want to have a share they're doing something to try and improve it. Yeah, I mean know the banking

I thought the racing there's a lot of passing. Yeah, I thought there's more passing this year, but there hasn't been any year

Just it wasn't for the lead. They made on Saturday, but it was

So this year was the best balance I've seen the track with roughness and slickness, right? Yeah, cuz if it's completely smooth and slick

It's a boring ass race, right

So with a little bit of that character it helps kind of but too much character which we've also seen where it's up by four track

Is it great either so

Yeah, so I mean, I I think I know I thought it was great. There's a lot of passing

Side by side racing. I mean here's spunk it up on set

But that ain't different than any other race that he starts on the pool and we have every single lap

You know that I mean how many tracks that happened to this year or last three years how many times does that happen a lot?

If you want to start on the pool, it would have been interesting

I think he's still with a one, but I mean the battle from second up for it was

Excellent

Yeah, there was I don't know. I thought it was great

When tickets gone sale December 22nd will be harder than getting on actually. Yeah

I forgot to ask you and if you want to talk about now, but you had your your passes you won versus your tickets

How did that end up? I get Nicole asked me that I go. Oh, should I never did here? Well, basically the VIP pass was how do you win it first?

So I went off the rare zone of sports shirt. I don't know. I answered one of the questions got picked and so you got tickets

There's down

Like right right for the flag stand dollars really really dirty

But then your VIP the only VIP really got you so which it's hard to explain if you've never been there

But you've been there before well, you haven't okay? Okay, so figure there's a stadium

Then you got your suites, you know like top of your lower decks well in the one hallway are on the one

Where there's not a sweet like it'd be like one in two corner turns one and two there's a hallway

Which I've set up there before like one the first before VIP and all that was a big thing

Because doors are open to it. I mean yeah, I go up through the section to get up there. There's a couple doors open and it's a it's a glass

Like a close hallway yeah, right go hallway and they just slide chairs up by the window and you sit there and it's less for you

Me less loud and there's a old set of

Restrooms in the hallway too. So it's like a club seat or basically, but it's just this hallway. There's no really

Yes, they will serve drinks to you and you can buy drinks and somebody will come serve them to you and

But it's nothing fancy. It's just literally a chair pushed up against a

desk or lunch bar top pretty. Yeah, basically and he's up there so

Used your seats. I'm guessing then yes. Yeah, be out with the people. Yeah, VIP isn't how to wane route rolls

Yeah, I mean yeah, I thought would have been one of the best thing is nobody can tell you

Yeah, like so I think about Mary's on the dude's like I have no idea what the you get anymore

He says I think you can soak it in on the end. Well then our buddy Jerry Barsock. He got something through somewhere

Nobody to them. So I go to the VIP ticket station where these people are working on I like hey, what's these get? Yeah

Oh, we don't know

That's like so well the Jerry's want to told me

Like yeah, we found out that the only thing it really gets is a you go stuff there and they stuff there for a while

And they went back there see

Yeah

Yeah, the way to text me like I don't know what was the week before summer and was like hey, would you go if you got free tickets

Because I got these VIP tickets and it's yeah, we won't be able to make it work, but so uh, you know, hi

I was I was trying to you know take care of some people yeah, well

Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, I mean it's cool. I mean we probably should have set up there because uh

You know some people

You have 40,000 people there some people don't have too good social awareness when they're next to you and

And I'm a bigger person, you know

I did it. I'm a bigger guy too. Exactly, but wouldn't you don't fit your seat world well

Try to be convenient to the person next to you instead like lean in their seat 90% of your body

You know three quarters of the time. Yeah, they're trying to sit there and that's kind of precisely why I don't go

Yes, I just I like to stand and watch or be in an open area. We can we can stand and watch from where our seats are

Because we use the top row, but yeah, but yeah, I like to roam. I don't like to sit in one place really a lot

So so yeah, but yeah, it worked out good

Um look that's a little different seat deals because uh

Uh, this one my dad did when he was there like I want those seats next year. Wow. I can't look around

Our seats are great. We love them, but it's uh, it's the same people and they bring up so you're in a dome

Like said, you gotta be aware and they're great people. They're nice people don't give me wrong because we talked to them and

Hell they might even listen to the show now

Sorry, yeah, it's neighbors at the dome

but uh, but bring in a backpack for a baby uh, a stroller for the baby

Jesus

And the seats are already you know

Ask in tight yeah, and then you get bigger people like us and them and you're bleeding in these are seats and you're

trying to put up where you're putting a stroller at all we're gonna collapse up put under seats that goes under other people seats and

All the other you know, yeah, gotta be a little have a little self-awareness of yes

Maybe buy an extra seat or maybe

Be a little aware of uh, yeah

Yep, I understand

That's not bad at the you know back in playing them and they're they talk to us. They talk to us last year too and

Good, I mean seem like good people and um, it's not good

Neighbors to say good neighbors not good neighbors for a dome set. Yeah, it's because it's hard to eat your sandwich

Drink and somebody you know move your arm and their arms on top of yours or you're banging into you and they eat something

Yeah, we gotta set like this in your seat. Oh, you know all the way over so mean doing a curse for fat and tall

Yes, so it's a double lamp. It wasn't me that was getting an inconvenience

I do the same thing

I'll sit on the aisle if you can sit in the set. Whoa, that's saying both of us was on the aisle

That's why I got them. I got one in one section one of the other so we had what room and all that well

Most of Melissa's footroom disappeared. In fact, she said uh

Uh, the marine bunch had all the seats next to us and she sat there for most time because they wasn't up there

All the time. Yeah, or as well the Savannah was up there. Uh, Devin's wife came up for Saturday

And I know some I think maybe some of their sponsors or helpers or what yeah off it on so uh

There wasn't too upset until all of them got up there and was like hey, I know we see there's my seat, but like oh

We understand now

Yeah, so I'll move you know just trying to

Beid some extra everybody can all have some space while I can yes exactly, but no, uh, so crab wise though. Oh huge

biggest dome crowd there

Um, I posted on Facebook page when they're saying god bless the USA

um

Dude, it's awesome. I mean it was just say when they buried in luxury when you're watching that floating they pay in the camera like during the races or during a break

Oh, it's kind of hard to see because it's shadowy, but once they did the stuff with the cell phones like oh you could see a lot. Yeah

So they had the upper deck

It's still not all open, but from the middle of turn three and four the middle of turn one and two and it was I'm gonna say

95% bryphole

Because like on straightaways, I mean it was filled with top row. Yeah

I didn't get here at official count. I know they thought it was closer to 40 than it was 38 that you know

It's not between 38 and 40, but uh

Well, they said it was definitely a large crowd and uh

I'm gonna open up more next year probably if they have I mean you have to room for it

The facility's great for it. The vehicle shows up. Yeah, I guarantee you that's gonna bring more people

I mean, it just it's yeah

Yeah, I mean that facility's made the whole whatever 60 plus

So it's yeah, they don't open the middle deck and I think it's because it's smaller

And it just less thing to do the upper deck first and then yeah

I tell you if it keeps going they're gonna have to open the middle

Well, and you think of you know, you mentioned

You know, it's like the San Luis people don't really love it

We've heard the rumblings of is even going to get renewed which it did for three years next date next year's dates are announced

Great, but it's like what else is going on in that facility

That brings that much people in like I wouldn't shit frickin

right

You know want to fill that place if you can who gives a dirt race or a

Football on the downtown businesses as we all know

Raising people support that area stay down there. I mean everything's packed. I mean

Now a couple of rush rises got smarter and prepared for it. There's still some that are very

Oh, this rut keeps happening. Whoa. I guess we're getting people again, and they're not ready. Yeah. I mean, it's

You know, that's the worst part of staying downtown is we stay right downtown

Like six blocks away walk

That's the worst thing is

Preparing for food because you got to prepare like the one the the sugar

Whatever barbecue

Open at 11. There's people lying at 930. Oh wow

Waiting and there's people two hour wait constantly

To get it because there's not a lot of restaurant and some of them's only open

Like two sums all open to three

Some don't open till four or five. Yeah, I mean, so there's a mixed

deal there a little bit

But you really if you're going for the first time

I would suggest seeing where you're staying and mapping out the restaurants near it and what time they're open and figure out

What did the news and notes don't order pizza afterwards?

She's gonna watch it too. Well, yeah, that'll be a two hour wait. I was funny. I was talking to I'm pretty sure that it's part of Dave has this crew

Uh, I sit there waiting so Saturday. We always get uh, Emo's pizza or Imo's yeah, um and the toast is

Ravioli because we made mistakes first couple years getting afterwards. It shows up if it shows up

Yeah, it shows up two three hours late. Yep

and

um

So we get fraunch now. Well, it was funny because we got to talk and I sat there and they come sit on the couches

They just talk I'm not super nice people on like

Oh, yeah, you hear from the race

And they're like yeah, I said, yeah, I'm waiting on pizza. Like oh, we ordered that last night and we ordered it d'ardash

And two and a half hours later the guy came on a bicycle and a basket d'ardash and it was stolen cold by time

As it yeah, so never repeats that afterwards. Yeah, it's a motel

Because uh, you're gonna wait forever

Mm-hmm. They're like we heard some people say there's never showed up. I said I had that happened before too. Yeah

I but uh, I mean, that's worse and the businesses downtown some of them

archeryl

Where the situation or act like they don't give a shit be honest and some do

Like the one place we we get this little valley cup pickles those people

full race people good food

All kind of breads cheeses you get all kind of sandwiches

They have some soups and stuff too

But they're bam-bam-bam-bam they they got you in and out and you sit there and it's packed

But they opened extra hours. Yeah, they sense like hey

We got 40,000 people

You know

Walking basically right by our place

We're gonna open a little restaurant. Mm-hmm. You know, I mean, that's, you know, we'll go in place. Why not? Well, you have like said

Yeah, I have all those people there. So uh, yeah, I know. I thought it was great. Love

love the

Atlas spear on it

Loved everybody the drivers and teams. I thought did excellent on the wraps. I mean a lot of teams went all out on that

This year and driver intros is getting stale there for a little bit

um

But it was back to what they should be. I mean, you know, you had had a lot of uh sheen and egg ends or

You see Trevor gun makers go to you. Yeah, Trevor made it go to bed Jonathan dad for ripping the cape off of surely

Oh, yeah, it's really coming out on the little evil cannibal bike with the cake. Yeah

I mean places doing stuff a lot of times guys the last couple of years

Yeah, I've won or two doing something

Might hold up a little sign and wave the crowd, but uh quite a few of them is doing stuff this year. Yeah

Um, pretty cool. Yeah, for sure

Yeah, I I don't know who will be back. I mean, that's my fifth one of the nine now that they've had as my fifth one and that

I mean, it's it's just a great time. I think I personally

It's one of my favorite weekends of the year. Yeah, so like Dwayne said December 22nd tickets

We're going on sale three day tickets. No December 23rd 23rd. So this 22nd. I'm kind of right away. That way. I can get us. Oh, yeah

The dawn sale at one p.m. on the 22nd or I can get my seats now

But is it renewal or no? No, we have to yeah

That's no renewals yet you by gotta

Get on over here. Yes

So keep that on your calendar, but yeah, it's the whatever six through eight. They think next year or something like that again

So yeah, well, it's actually I think I heard through

Fifth thing. Gotcha. It's the same days. It's just I think it's actually a couple days with a calendar fall

And I think it's the dates are like yeah third fourth and fifth. Yeah, I just I think there are a couple days earlier

Yeah, this year is fourth this six and yeah

Yeah, so keep an account there if you want to get going like said December 22nd at tying up. It's a good time

I'm telling you that it's if you like racing like fun like great at a spear

Yeah, you're gonna have some downtime, but no big deal. I'd say they did pretty good about that this year. They did

They did defense repairs and everything happen a lot faster than yours. Well, plus cars and deals through so you do it one time a year

mm-hmm

and

And you're stuck with what you got you can't change it in middle stream. So and that's one thing I say

I really think they've learned trying to prove it every year

And it's just like that downtime just a lot quicker. I mean, and they was kind of

Those apologizing a lot about how long track prep took before they means on Saturday

It really wasn't that long. It's not like going chillable. There's 10 time for downtime. Yeah, you're still done before like 10 p.m

I think your time she wrote three nights. We was done by

Little after nine. Yeah, there's a pride that is done a little bit because they say a little less. So it's an hour behind

Eastern time

Yeah, the Eastern time in your bitch and like oh, it's taking you know almost 11 o'clock

Well, it's almost 10 o'clock where they're racing. So yeah, I mean they they was over with

Early first two nights Saturday, you know

They did it a lot. I had hey, I'm not gonna bitch about I should track prep to make the race better. Yeah

He didn't go to pops right at night for the after party. No, no, I don't know

It looked pretty crowded. No, my foot was actually

The worst has been in probably a year to two years pain-wise

Which I I got an MRI and I'll I go to the doctor this week to see what they're gonna do about it, but

I didn't do a lot of stuff afterwards because no matter how many pain pills and stuff I took I just couldn't get a comfortable of course

Had to do up before right. Yeah, I started acting up. Hasn't acted up for six six months

And it starts acting up, but you know for walk everywhere. Yeah

Yeah, and I don't know if you saw that pops place, but it's like East St. Louis like just across the river. I'm like

I wouldn't mind being in there because I know a lot of people because I had bad people sent me videos and shit

But it's getting there and back probably. Yeah, that's all JD was there. Yeah, pretty nice

Nick Hoffman is there Gordy Gordy hosted shots was there. Yeah shots was there. Yeah

So yeah, lots of things happening

Probably more to come if obviously keep going so yeah, I mean there was

That was good time. Hey, we talked our our buddy Jerry Barsock

Boy saying single tell us is always cool to catch up with him and uh

Don't know any other names they tell their names that we always meet people from

These this year is South Carolina, Pennsylvania. Just those sit there and just

Friendly talking all like hey, oh, where are you guys from? Oh, man? You have this your first time or you know, just

Everybody sent around having a good time. Yeah, well, that's one thing. They did say it and I think it's true

the dome

You don't see

side some of the drivers when they get taken out

people all angry all

Yeah, now that I mean everybody's happy

And seriously it seems like everybody's always my in person big as the crowd

It's not like El Dorra or someplace you go where there's a fist fight here or there now

There was a little one the other night afterwards

By the pit area I guess afterwards, but I think there's a few teams

Spilling over some emotions the way it sounds after the races, but uh, which that race

You just kind of got to chalk it up to yeah, that's what it is like

You're gonna get run over luck is part of the game. You don't want your shit, but no go. Yeah, exactly. It's that's Mike Marlar

Yeah, and he didn't even get into it with anybody. That was all uh, yeah one car. Yeah, it's best playing all you know

My father was wrong it ran out of games. Yeah, I saw that

I was I didn't know where the quote came from but I saw people kept saying uh, you know

Oh, it's right out of fuel or do you think someone's over out of fuel or something? So yeah, well time

Yep, it's on again for next year, so and this month be sure to get you to try and stuff what what youth did you see the

So drawing for the front row the pit crew challenge for the I did not watch those. Yeah

Hey, it was exciting. I was something different. Yeah, gave it a true team effort

You know a couple guys are like yeah

Yeah, the bowler sock. He's like, yeah, if I erase it, I'm just gonna tell him works for starting six because it was my guys

Yeah, we're gonna

But no, I mean, it was something different and here you go again

There are team at value trying to do something different trying to keep the teams involved

Um, it was funny. I mean there is uh, something else to watch while they're working on the track

Yeah, yeah, that was funny. I mean, and there's a bunch of the cars, you know, oh my god. This is stupid. It was

I don't know. I mean

It's a different event. So why not do different stuff? Yeah, right? Well on it puts the team's hands something, you know

Something unique. I mean, I thought there was a lot of funny parts of it

I mean because you get the driver going the team's going, you know, like Carl Bronson was one

So, you know, he's yelling at these guys and some of my guys are just a couple of them took each other out one with the tire and the jack running

You know, just yeah, it's uh

It was pretty good. Well, Josh writes to this guys you guys give a hand pull on give you a thousand out my thousand dollar quick time money

So uh, yeah, but it's just adds more of an event of value for sure

Well, that's our wrap up on the dome other stuff happening since we last recorded in more recent even, but uh, we'll hit them in

Different order, but the other kind of big one to talk about is the word about lost print car schedule has been released

I know a lot of us were looking forward to it seeing what uh, you know, what what we were gonna see

Uh, you know, as far as local stuff we know out of cash sharing move their dates up in May to the first and second where they were

closer to the end of the month

Let's race to Edeldora shifted to the 15th and 16th like a week later than it used to be

Um, and some big race is what 300,000 a win at

Hew six and soon 300,000 win in the King's Royal will be

200,000 to win this year and Knoxville at least 200,000 win. Yep

National hope it'll be 75 grand of win again a lot of uh, 20,000 that I think man's field

15 I believe there's some 15 some 20s uh 86 races 40 different tracks

Some tracks that haven't been on this go to for a while like hard for mission and our first back on Belleville Dodge City

No DAC

North Dakota

Nutrax Creek County, Texas, Arcana

One thing which it's still a TBA is their west coast stuff and we have two weekends in September

Slated to be out west, but those are TBD yet. So

Obviously don't know where those are gonna lie, but those are west coast swing looks like only

You know a variety of Saturday for two weekends, and that's about it. So

You know, Dennis was Dennis Roth or the Roth classic. Yeah, was there um

You know, so a little bit of a west coast hit which we know they've kind of been back and forth on last few years

Especially with high limit coming into the picture now. All right

On high limits based basically off the what I mean as west coast people run it so yeah, then they promote a west coast race track

Yeah, I like on west coast series as well

I mean, so I get it and hey good old you know it works out for us as we get three shows in October. Yeah

And uh baps is on there this year

Lincoln Park in Indiana again, Mark Millstream Mansfield Sharon like we talked about

um and Lincoln Park the week after which with a TBA

You know last year that was a sell and got rained out on that Saturday after Lincoln Park

So that's gonna be somewhere close to our region. Yeah, I mean if they're 17. Yeah, if they're at Lincoln Park October 16

I mean

That could be four hours from Lincoln Park, but I yeah, I bet it won't be yeah

Back to Ash weekend for two nights, so that'll be cool

Um cedar lake, are they doing get 55s on there again the iron man

Um, yeah, so you know not too crazy

Yeah, just uh

Like we said, we get kind of the benefit of some things more dates here and some money. Yeah, no money

Uh

Houston's that's crazy

3,000 300,000 win and Kings Royal

200,000 and and and they keep up with the purse usually too

I mean

How many is doing with King's Royal kind of like way has done with the Royal Vermonters dream

You know getting worse like a five six hundred thousand dollar purse really yeah

And like four or five or six grand just to start the adventure

300,000 to the points winner. We know

Macedo's team says they're back

Uh, we assume Roth is back

The Marshall team's probably back

We saw Vermeer Motorsports

Changed and what is going high on the racing next year with Carrie Madson and uh

I've seen that but they had the commitment that said they committed for two years to try to win that card

Yeah, the win the card

Yeah, which Carrie Madson so

This was kind of have to do for that series you can't just run it

It seems like for a year buddy our buddy Graham and Australia really loves Carrie Madson

Oh, yeah, he's his biggest fan. Is he running the fan club in Australia does he?

He might got you. So sorry Graham when I beg on him a little bit

Yeah, they start the wheat of the year off. They're going to need a lot of parts

They start the year off of Volusia in February then they're off till March when they go back to Volusia

And then it kicks off

Through the south east into Texas Oklahoma, Kansas

And then they come through the Midwest

Like normal, you know up through the northern parts in the end of May

Yeah, there was a few little twists but not not a lot. I mean it's pretty basic with you know heart for that in

They have two-day show in April at Knoxville. That was kind of a newer one for them

Yeah, I would say used to do it one time. Got you

So yeah, another quality schedule would you know traveling everything considered

I think it's pretty favorable. Oh, I think so

But yeah, I lost back at it again. So

Not 49th year or so Knoxville Nationals presented by Casey's song tells me

The 50th year would be something big happening. You know, we're supposed to get a Casey's here in town, right? No

Yeah, got approved. No shit. Yeah, because from St. John's Church up here on Main Street. Really? Yeah

Kind of a I'm it's gonna be bad news for me because I sold my nap store

I see that's why it's like yeah, I always wondered like because like especially the food stuff like around here

These gas stations actually sell a lot of shit

The lunchtime and whatnot. So I always thought a Casey's would be great

Yeah, we have construction crews and you know what not coming in for like lunches and breakfast and stuff

So yeah, I have to Casey's yesterday

So it's hard to pass up man every time I'm in Sonya

Well, I don't get the breakfast pizza Casey's because they get that from Littlestop

I still use it on the interview. Oh

Well, so I get on the list here

High-limit drivers like we said the Vermeer teams heading over there dang Sam's announced he's going back

Air Morrison. Did you see the

The routine deal with Hillier coming on board full-time and Justin Peck's crew chief going to that team

Yeah to race more regionally now the question is Justin Peck's who's Justin Peck's crew chief

I think I'll be all right. I don't think that all

Only thing I think you do is improve because I that car as we said ever since the all-star ever since the all-stars

It hasn't been itself. Yeah, it's got great driver something Justin Peck's great driver. Well, I assume had it dialed in yeah

So yeah, I was good in it one at kind of mm-hmm. I mean the thing it's never been consistent. Yeah, so

And yeah speaking of the wise like that's we didn't see him at all last year

No, I haven't heard no trace about no everybody what they say. Yeah, oh really they had an interview with one who somebody didn't interview

There's a lot of personal stuff

Speaking of schedules literally the day after we recorded that

Pennsylvania folks decided to announce a new spring car series

Hold up hold up beer and watch this

PA posse 410 sprint series is now a thing

launching their own streaming service as well, but they'll have

How many are a 47 47 races 50,000 to win the championship

and most races are paying all are while they all guaranteed 6000 to win 600 start with several and paying 10 1520,000. Yeah

And it's all Pennsylvania most a lot of port oil Williams Grove and Lincoln 11 tracks 11 tracks. You got Bedford Path Valley

Baps in there grandview in there Clinton County in there bridge port sealant's Grove. So Agar's town

What bed for speed weeks in there. Yeah speed weeks but uh and it's pretty cool deal. They're not getting rid of their regular shows

But what they're doing is putting on these shows

And it's a regular series guys. There's gonna be some telemoney. Mm-hmm. And a point's fun and um

So it's basically to try to you know, Pennsylvania. There's a lot of tracks that race on the same night

Yeah, sprint cars. So it's gonna try to hey

We got this big show tonight then everybody else is off to try to get the best cars

Um for the best money

It's kind of like

This is only like 30 years overdue kind of. Yeah, so like yeah, that's the thing with people you see

And I get it of course, you know, Pennsylvania

Those people are die hard. So I mean they go from February to November no matter what the weather

You don't see them to grandstands in most of those places like you do in Ohio

One is too hot too cold too big of a chance or rain

I mean you just don't I mean it's

And uh, I've seen the biggest complaint from the fan point is so

Now that it's uh, you know, gonna have a sanction fee for the tracks and uh pay to money in that is our ticket price going up

Or is it gonna be the same as like the $20 show or are they gonna be $25 30 which

I get that's a big concern because now let's say if they go up five bucks or ten bucks for these shows like like it's a sanctioned show

Mm-hmm like the outlaws or the all-stars or high limits now

instead of having like

15 of those shows here now. Yeah, those 15 plus 47 now yet 60

Now okay now that's not quite as affordable because it fits more than it is to get into your local show

You know, so I'm like we you know wing about doom all like we

Do you know, yeah, we we I mean tracks sell season tickets and we got a few tracks and do that here, but I mean

All of being tracks I go to 90% of them have season tickets that they sell a ton of each year. So

You know people going about every single one of their local shows like they said now if it goes up $10 a show

Yeah, you know, which is a concern that say legitimate one more is it coming from yeah

Yeah, it'll be

Before I see the tracks are kind of like well majority of them's gonna cost the same to get in because you know some of them

But you know because like some of us paying 10-15,000 in

So it needs to be the same cost to get in because some of those you paid a little more to get in

Yeah, yeah, it'll be kind of cool to see how this goes and like do you see uh

You know wiker memorial race not go to this series. Maybe pull from a high limit. Yeah

Because I know like all stars release their schedule and there's not as many

PA events on there like East Central Eastern PA events like they kind of had with Williams Grove and whatnot

And it's like that's why because they did this instead. Yeah, well, they got their

One trip to Williams Grove and yeah that this year and that's all they all stars want they know

Yeah, I mean they could book more

What I've been told by

Farmer that they could book more but he don't want it to be like the old ball stars. Yeah, go there 10 times

It'll just be you know, cool to see how this evolves this year one. I think it's great. I mean it's a great idea

Yeah, you said 30 years too late later buddy. I mean I've been done this before you know

And you see all the things in Ohio

I guarantee you right now

I know why they can't do in Ohio because they ain't everybody can get along

Yeah, and I mean PA was like that for a long time because they got rid of all the tent measures

Like you get to do it. Yeah, everybody wants to have a measuring

yep

And yeah, I'm glad to see PA

You know sports not getting any cheaper. So consolidating where these 410 guys are racing

in a

State where there's a lot of 410 guys. It's uh, well, that's what a lot of people will like like we're like well

This is gonna get rid of the local shows and you're like no, they're still gonna have local shows or stuff

but uh, this is just something to

Which I think Ohio should do. I mean

I think places like this is what's gonna survive spring car race. Yes, because

teams just can't go race

I mean, yeah

Local teams now Pennsylvania seem to have bigger budgets than the majority of the local teams now

There's some very small budget teams that could only race port oil when they race Lincoln or on

But it's harder and harder for our guys

You know in Ohio because you you know, you just see it dwindling more because of bunnies not as good as it is in Pennsylvania

um

And I think this is a step to

Making the sports survive. Yeah region and

Hopefully

Other regions will look at this and go hey

This is a lot. No, because obviously that's what I've been doing with AFCS. We talking 16 races at two shows

or two tracks. Yeah

Um, but you know this year we did almost $100,000

so

this gives it more of a region and

High on these do something like this because you're seeing less and less teams

participate and I think uh

This year I think next year will be interesting because there's a lot of spring car races

So some teams are gonna have some options

To go places and make money. It's not Pennsylvania money, but there's gonna be many options for 4,000

When 400 start on some nights where

Some tracks aren't gonna be happy because they're gonna get full fields

But drivers should be because there's gonna be a lot a lot of guys

There's some money at some places

Well, and you think of the old you know at like when you

Like us from go to Pennsylvania for a regular weekend. We'll say it's like Saturday

You got to pick you're gonna go to Lincoln. You're gonna go to Port Royal

Pencil you want to see race because it's different. Yeah, so this will help both of them get full fields

Yeah

And also now you do one of these that's gonna be the other thing is

Is gonna be too good because again if you get 40 50 cars each one of these shows

You're starting 24. What's it gonna pay for non-transers? Yeah

Because now you're taking some of them travel at a couple

I mean, that's a good thing is there's not a ton of travel because if you're located in

Pennsylvania mostly tracks are within an hour and a half two hours. Yeah, there's you know, there's couple

It's gonna be a little bit of a toe, but you're not going to those ones regularly. Right, so it's like

It'll be interesting. So I think it's a great thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I mean

Like I said to me, it's just kind of like

There you know, say 30 years too late like I should have had this together and

But at the time there's a lot more cars racing the sport wasn't expensive. Oh, so it's expensive and on the behalf of Ohio

I know for

What I've been told by more than one person that was into the conversation

um, there was uh

Several tracks on a conference call a month or so ago

I always say trying to do the same thing, but kind of

Not making a series, but hey, we're having this race at this time

It's all play nice. Yeah, well

There's a new one not doing that and then there's something down south that

Don't care. Well, you got a warning going down there, which you can kind of see because fast guys will came out

And then the Ohio valleys

Uh, OVSEA. Yeah, and it's in the Gladiator tours gonna try to take the tracks where Hawley was too

So there's kind of a war going down south

Still, but you know if you could get to get

Everybody on the same page even like that like button county

Haggers town

Sillings grow selling grows been kind of doing that to the other tracks in that region

And the one not playing nice scheduling us there. You get them on board for some racing

You know, but you're not saying you have to do it every race that get them on board

Like hey, here's your couple shows. You don't have you know

Yeah, especially a ceilings grow where you're not racing four tens every weekend right

And you could do the same thing Ohio because some of these tracks only have one or two

Orten shows like the fast guys who came out you see skylines got a race there. That's always been wild Valley

And obviously

If you've seen anything from last winter, Ohio, not like promoter that goes postal like he does 90% of the time went postal on the

track owner and car show from all things because

Magnets or magnets are in the wrong, but

Who knows yeah, but you know

It would be interesting to see how that plays out

But yeah, I mean there's some tracks in Ohio working together and there's some that's not so uh

Maybe

It's not just Ohio would be cool. You know some other regions look at this go hey

That's a pretty neat concept

Yeah, I'm I'm excited to see where it goes, but uh, I think they said there's down to 14 or 15

Full-time tracks run four tens weekly

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy to think that we got two of them that we go to you know, now there's why if you're doing 360s now

Yeah, but um

Still the four ten weekly track deals

Getting less and less over here. Yeah, it will see all goes, but uh, yeah, yeah posse sprint series is uh is uh, yeah

Yeah, so fast series came out muscle since yes, it's there

Uh

Says 25 shows are only 22 confirmed right now

Seven at Mansfield five in the Tommy so of the 22

dates confirmed right now 12 over at two tracks

You have a skyline and a West Virginia motor speedway a hilltop

Hilltops back. I don't think they're any sprint cars last year

One at hilltop three at Pittsburgh

Three at Tri-City I think yeah, just say I got to let my notes, but uh, we got her done so um

Highland driver's was the other thing the hell to her schedule

Uh, came out today came out today

The uh, yeah, nothing too crazy on there um few new tracks a few tracks that haven't been on there for a while

Yeah, like I'd had six been a few years since they've had one. Yeah

um

Montpillier speedways back on there on the so last weeks, you know in our area. We got Montpillier

And in the six butler crystal then to Oakshade then finishing it off at Wayne County

again

No browns town Indiana, which I know some people have just you know voiced their displeasure with, but I don't think they've had it

Regularly anyway now. They don't think they were their last year or two. No

No Clarksville obviously because that track is closed down. We got windy hollow this year. Uh, a couple

Camden Tennessee

So yeah, another Iowa swing Iowa swing uh Mocha Keta

Uh, the West Liberty will Wilmont Wisconsin

Davenport and then uh

Yeah, the books on there farm or city

i55 so a lot of long standing obviously it's huge deal. No, no right like you're gonna go to Fairbury on the first saturday

We all know. Yeah, so our week

Uh, expanded by one. Did you have

Montpillier Tuesday? Yep. And then I had a six

Butler crystal us and then Wayne County finished. Yeah

This is Monday, TBA, which I don't know if they'll do on Monday, but yeah, it could be a Monday

Uh, that shady hill was kind of always on there on and on. I don't know if they'll pick it up, but

Yeah, another

Hill tour schedule out there

Some are nationals now they're way from the Hill tour part of it, but yeah

Yeah, Kankake was one that's on there that tracks technically closed the schedule today was someone

Arrange to take the track over that has now fallen through

But the date is still in the schedule anticipation of someone having the track by that so you shall see what happened there

Yes, um

Breaking news L.A. What you got this is why I always look at

Donnie shots to be a new beginning

Donnie shots to pilot CJB motorsports

Changed in the number to 15 for the 26th world up all campaign very cool. So the CJB-5

Is now going to be the CJB-15 uh-huh with Donnie shots. I thought we already

Suspected the indoor near that crouch was back. They have two teams. Yeah, like they used to I don't know

I don't know. I don't know if there really is says

Well, let's just read a little bit

Colleges

I don't know

Shots joining expands CJB to a two-car organization

There you go

So two cars they used to have two cars. Yeah back in the day five in the 51. So I wonder if uh want to be on the outlaws and one on the well

I thought crouch was already confirmed

Uh back to high limit in the CJB car so

Yeah could be so that one on each tour

Yes, which we've seen that before

Donnie shots

There you go CJB smooth

CJB on the outlaws now. I guess I didn't read it close enough

But does it say Barry Jackson with runon crew chief Barry Jackson

Enteres his 30th consecutive

So is that mean Barry Jackson's going back on the road? I don't know. Yes, so

It sounds like it. That's what it sounds like to me. Right why they're all false

Well you night Donnie shots and Barry Jackson. So there you go

Oh another breaking news. Don't bus car winners are out. Yeah, what do you got after 45,000 votes?

ikes the bus car which

Okay, it was decent

I don't think it was a bus looking car, but whatever I'll get smate for that kind of carpentry

Really

That was my reaction and Haley gross in the mods. Yeah, but Haley gross. What's your car?

There's decent two. Yeah, but uh

Honestly, I think I didn't vote for either one of them to say that

Yeah, I mean uh, I thought

So these are terrible then you got to go to the comments. That's where it's fun. No, I bet

Should have been Oliverson wow air bomb missed that one

I would have bet money on the overtune ride waiting this Tyler's car don't even look that good

Yeah, I'm not a fan of our peers, but he definitely had the best spring car

But I'm biased because I like fall out that yeah

Yeah

That was kind of weird. Yeah, huh?

Yeah, hey whatever does Victor go to the spoils, I guess hey, it's fully democratic process. That's right

Let's face it if it was a rig competition carpenter would not have been the guy getting

so

wife's watching and they you know

And they had their figure stuff on so yeah

Yeah, you see the Mars schedules out too

Yes, like yep, I got that on the list

Um, my next one was the hillbilly hundred you see that announces going to come back to westergianian not announced date or we know the date

Yes, every day weekend slimmer day weekend, but

Not announced purse not announced purse or where yet, but a lot of speculation that'll be to open the speedway

Yeah, which the promoters of westergianian motor speedway took over

And we're in the process of you know doing some work there getting it up to snuff

So which is a race a little joint. It's one of those places. I'd love to go to check out. So

But yeah, the non-sanctioned regional

You know event not a Lucasola event this year, but uh, yeah

You know, see what's the pace see where that goes

Um fast schedule was shared he talked about the my next one's the Mars series schedule

That did come out where they the biggest change there's their finale is at Lucasola speedway

One thing I'm mad about on that schedule. What's yeah, they're going to Charleston track guys want to go to one of my new favorite tracks

Same days King. Oh, yes. That's the team's Royal

Damn it. I can't go on Charleston. They open up Mocha Kato, which I believe is the

Ice whether they call that contact breaker. That's brownstown

Fall brawl. I believe that was where they moved it to last year

So I'm guessing that's what that is, but yeah, it's gotta be the spring point can't be fall in April

I'm sorry spring point. Oh my god figured out

You're still all excited about Casey's

I just want to go to Illinois Casey's every time I style every time I town I drive through

Uh, yeah, let's sell on there in

Middle August the cell coming back from the dead. So that's that'll be anticipated date making on there as well

And then they go to February at the beginning of October then like I said 9th and 10th of October they go Lucasola speedway to finish her out

Uh

Lots of Illinois dates and some Iowa dates keeping it truly regional. So that's our buddy Matt curls

Series that he's got going as well as fairberry so is a year for him as well

Um, I don't know what you thought of this, but it was announced and

one

One position is our pat one of our friends and past guests, but you said changing some things around. Yes

Shocked me. Did it really?

Yeah, it's a police

Swanson yeah taking over the director

Uh, semi-retiring. I gonna race you sober crown at all. He's gonna be the silver crown series director

Yep, but then the president is taking a change. Yeah, basically are taking over as president of you sack

Well, I don't know Casey Kohler from Adam. I don't either. Okay. I've seen some people I've seen some good things about him

So yes, I've seen Robert blue was a thing in on it

That's good

Blue it gets Kevin Miller's been there for a long time

It's pissing a lot of people off for a long time from everything. I've ever heard, but yeah, again

Don't know the guts of Adam. I guess is Robert blue the fan of it

Because he probably thinks it's gonna be no favoritism

Ah with my guess is you know, we've had some issues with that

obvious video and I like

Spritz and all those guys from you sack not running them down at all, but you know

It's

Helped times they got caught with a pants down

Pen of rose. Yeah, so so to speak and I feel like

The fact that you sacks popularity is kind of going down helped a lot of that as far as like not really being noticed by a lot

Because it's not high-limit or word of outlaws

So yeah, it'll be be cool to see someone new at the home and see where it goes

I mean biggest thing is get some better purses and stuff in there and try to get you sack back to work

It was man. I don't know. Yeah. I mean they got great if you do the whole thing like you know

You have a chance to win about half million dollars if you're the triple cow crown winner

Now that's great, but that's can be hard to do. It's getting harder

You know, but yeah, I mean

As we've seen lost a lot of non-wing guys to wing lately

Just guys you sack if you're not in top three you can't hardly make a living doing yeah, it's tough

I mean it pays good the top three

But you know, I mean from fourth on the back they got beef that up if they want to make it a

Well, you know where guys can make a living. I mean they can run all three divisions

That's what a lot of you got to do is run at least two or the three of the divisions to make a semi decent living

Yeah, you sack silver crown wins eight thousand dollars, you know, like that's what you need to pay for the spring card guys

Cody

Cody Swanson yep stepping away from full-time racing so gonna race

Shocked me. Yeah, I mean little 500 for sure. You know while on hill race that wing a million dollar series and he's running some must-sees and

Independent IRP races. Yeah run some of those new budget Syria races and

Southay says but away from you sack

So it sounds like he didn't even got race in the you sack races and all yeah, which while in

This goes back to something I was told at our

AFCS banquet was with the all-star banquet well last two or three years

He's been there night as teammate at the chili bowl

Mm-hmm. There night is at the chili bowl

And he said Cody gave up his ride so he don't want to race chili bowl anymore

He's gonna be Darren's driver coach and Jason McDougall's taking this teammate role

Cody's gonna be a driver's coach. Cody's still gonna be there. Yeah, but he's gonna be more of a coach

For those young guys, so and I didn't even go down on my head that okay

I know Cody don't race turn midges a lot, so maybe that's why but then this pops up like

Secondly, not a new sack event, but sucks cuz I

wholeheartedly

You know Ryan Clawson was the guy for you sack to go into car

Wholeheartedly when that you know, unfortunately came to end

You know, they're trying to pursue to get some other guy. Cody Swanson should have been the guy to go

Mm-hmm, and it sucks that you know, I know he had one love go from talk to him several times, but

Sounds like he's come the reality of I'm not gonna do that

And it's time to move on to the next stop stuff them life and you know in his families

He's got two young boys and

It's always been a family man

He's always still worked even with always racing and I kind of like to have his speeches like

You know, I've been that every aspect of sport and uh, I love silver crown racing

And I think this is my next chapter of you know, yeah, so yeah, no, I'm talking. Yeah, I mean

It was interesting to hear but not

That was a little surprising, but not crazy. It wasn't a huge

We see his brothers younger than him, and he's come back from yeah time racing. Yeah, Tanner's been

And doing a lot last over there. Yeah, so

Yeah, well congrats to Cody and got Brad sweet, you know, yeah, that old

Yeah, for sure. He's still got championships left in him. I always know

But yeah, congrats to Cody and you sack for you know new president. Hopefully

It's only the beginning of a new new chapter that only goes upwards. Maybe the new president can talk

Tracks in Ohio get my head out or ask him against me

You said yeah, and I'd say I'll tell you listener out there. That's not a non-wing spring car person or hasn't seen one

I'm that's a crazy thing

You know, we talked to our

friends from around the country

Our friends from North Carolina especially

Non-wing spring cars aren't a thing at all now

And you know, our buddy Armstrong went to

Cassidy's ones for midget weed. Yeah, you know like they're all lost man. This is awesome

Like it's just cool to see

Again, anyone that hasn't been to a non-wing spring car race especially like a usac like if you can get to one

Get to one because it really is one of the best forms of racing

It's a shame the series hasn't blossomed like like years past. You know, we had the jack hue. It's the Dave Darlin's Tracy Hines

Jay Drake

Levi Jones, you know, all those cool names over the years, and we still got some good names there, you know, Robert blue

KTJs there C.J. Larry's still trucking at it a lot of great talent there. It's just not as

On a bigger pedestal that used to be but she can get to one. Oh, I have a flashlight. I see if you're sick. Oh, yeah

First, he's a good talent. He's an asshole, but he's a good talent. He's a great guy. Hey, it's nothing

There's no denying someone who's good at racing doesn't just because our asshole doesn't mean anything. I mean see

I knew it. I knew

Yeah, check on time you get smart. That's one of the smartest things you said. I'll tell you what I

I miss out

Chase Stockton's another one. Chase Stockton. Yep. I have FOMO every time I turn on

Flow during you sack national sprint week

It's like, you know, Bloomington they get 40 cars Lincoln Park to get 40 50. It's like

That you know sit five six heat races of guys going falls the wall

Well, like some of the guys had lost Chris Wyndham. Yeah, Courtney Brady bacon. Mm-hmm

Yeah, I mean KTJ tried to leave he came back locally, but um

buddy

If you could a guy's sprint car ride I mean

One then they wrecked it and then they kind of got pissed at you sack didn't they and remember that you're

So it's gonna have that right. Yeah, so yeah great product just uh, you know

Just things you gotta catch up with the times. I feel like excellent. Yeah, Jason Persley. Yes

big-time non-wing guys

So again, one of those one of those products on track that you got to see and

They probably don't get the credit they deserve will put it that way

But uh, was hopefully only good things ahead and we'll put it. We'll leave it there

Um my last known I have which I think we kind of mentioned with Skylar G and Logan Fett and Racing

I don't think we mentioned yeah, but yeah, we talked maybe we talked about it before uh before we started recording

But yeah, Skylar G out at Logan Fett and Racing

um

Both side say there's announcements soon to come don't know what that means if it's regional if it's national what it is

Yeah, I don't know if Skylar I mean his dad did their own team on the world about all tour. I don't know if

Or ASCS

Maybe that's what Skylar came from because he was a Canadian he always raised ASCS for years

Um, but I don't know if he's national 410 until this patch you

No, maybe

He was all star, but I don't think he did

We're about lost till last year. Well, yeah, that is for sure. Yeah, national 410

Did ASCS for a number of years though? I don't remember

I'm pretty sure he did

Because Brighay Bacon did that and Covington all those guys

Uh, yeah, so and yeah, it's fun to get to go because he used to race two or they get in the local guy

And do the all-stars and do the outlaw some

My guess is Skylar probably got me all lost

You think? Yep. What team? I wouldn't be surprised if this is home. You think so. Okay. Is that their own team before?

Yeah, um, I mean, I'm trying to think what did he it's like

it's like

Crazy to me. What did he has he rate? Did he race? No aFCS

He was like in a good position to stick with that one. Oh, yeah, with aFCS

But then then want to stick to it and went out did you know racing everywhere or whatever nothing against it

But it's like I can't remember what he yeah, he raced with us for a while

He wanted three shows at one year. Yeah, he started off the season. Yeah, yeah, one first three and

So yeah, I don't know where to lead, but yeah, that's the last note I got. What else am I missing?

Uh, something big being late model guy that you are probably it was announced at the dome in Ohio

June 10

Let's scheme county. Yeah, we're gonna see how big that really is. Well, I mean

Because some are national start that night

Well, yeah, but it doesn't matter because it's gonna be invitation only it's the top ten. Yeah, but like you're

Brian Shirley's and Bobby Pierce's and Brandon Shepherds and all that

They like going home and it's right after the world. So you have a dream

But what's Virginia's racing that next week. That's very true. Yeah

It's a $200,000 purse for 20 cars. Yep

And I seen some scuttle bought of people like guys at the dome

They said they're gonna have some sound like there's gonna have some regional guy. Yeah, then announcement yesterday

Video was like this is gonna be the top 10

All laws and top 10. Oh, yeah, it's gonna pay

This guy's yep gonna pay at least the win 20 to 30 is what they're saying at the dome on the interview

But now yeah, they kind of said 20 but then that's a hell of a person because they says get everybody it shows how it's gonna be

guaranteed at least $3,000. Yeah, so that's where some national but we're gonna face five

Yeah, I saw some comments which

I don't want to see some fans are mad because it's like 45 bucks and you're getting 20 cars

Well, my thing is I saw was like wish it could be made a different track

But I guess brands have been wanting to do this. It's something Devin Miranda's house involved in

I guess he's been they've been trying to put it together for a couple years

And that's what flow guy said gets flows the sport net live on flow

That's gonna be the match race the best it gets the best top 10 all all guys gets top 10 Lucas. Oh guys

Maybe those will be some regional guys in there and

I think everybody's getting their paintings in a wide way too like as it doesn't it

Maybe there'll be some regional guys or maybe they'll have a regional race with it or something

You don't have an invite top 20 local guys or something that have you know

Everybody's like lost 45 dollars for 20 cars and that's only gonna be an hour program and blah blah blah. Well

Wasn't tonight. Let's get let's get all the details. Yeah, before we get to work done

Yeah, yeah, there's still a lot to be announced. I did see that announcement didn't I think it's cool

I mean, there's like Tristan said it's like kind of think of like the writer cup for golf, right? Yeah, so yeah, very cool idea. I mean 200,000 dollars

Yeah, on a Wednesday night

Especially was really 20 cars. That's huge. Yeah, my quote my thought was and I'm not even you know the biggest late model guy

I don't know you kind of are you going on these late model races, but yeah, my thought was something equals there

Summer national starts that week. I don't know what you guys gonna stick around but I didn't forget about West Virginia

So but after the dream some of those guys me need to go home

Who knows but well, I think they'll stick for us for because I mean

And that's why they've been taking a couple years put together because they've talked to the guy who's been running

Yeah, okay, what will work for you guys? Yeah, yeah, now most of the big tea. It's really my piercing

I don't think pierced right in any of what maybe one summer national race, but the nice thing about

Uh, the dream is if they stick to yours past you only race, you know Thursday or Friday and Saturday

Right, so that's helpful

Yeah, yeah, I mean surely ran some summer national. I don't think pierced ran any summer national

Yeah, I think you're right because I think I remember them

You know because when I went to fairberry I was off and I thought we'd get all those guys

Yeah, I know they they had said last year that like

Pierce was said we're not doing those shows because we're trying to stick to the outlaw

All right, he prepared as possible blah blah blah. So who knows just saying that's a concern of mine

But come to West Virginia the following weekend

Especially that all guys

You know, I'm 200,000 a purse for 20 cars even if they had five locals. That's damn good. Yeah. Yeah

And that's what they want to kind of have a like send the rider cup because see there's talking when they interviewed them at the dumb

I said between 20 and 30,000 win then you know seconds gonna be

Huge yeah, cuz it looks to say if it's 200,000 dollars per

There's 20 cars. That's basically $10,000 car now

We know that's not how because I said everybody's gonna be guaranteed at least 3,000 to show up

But at top five it's gonna pay pretty damn well. Yeah, unless they give them 3,000 show up and then have

Yeah, it's 200,000 dollars

Yeah, I mean, hey, why not try it, right? Yeah, sorry. Well, it says they got skeptical to start

But they have a lot of partners coming in that sound like it's new to the sport as well. Yes

So I think I think it's huge

I think it's a great idea. I'm I'm curious to see the more detail side of it for sure

Yeah, good concept though for sure. Yeah, there's a couple people's like, you know

What better have some regional guys in there? Yeah, like Kyle Moore and Brian Markham

Like they go to mosquito quite a brand and even though

Brennan's there big blue dozer. Yeah, yeah, like all of it. Somebody's gonna crash it

Yeah, the 20 best late mild drivers got to have the blue dozer there to you know keep them on a straight

Blue 20 put the girl more on that some of it. Oh shit

And it could be a deal like a Brian Shirley race his car with no back

He could put Shirley in his car. Yeah, but you know

Oh, and why not Devon and Ryan

Take some ladder guys or you know, yeah, well, Devon. I mean, he's got my track championships. Yeah

Like I said, God Moore's in there. Yeah

Yeah, well, we'll see where it goes and maybe they won't do any local guys

It's the first year. So we'll see how it goes. Yeah, and like you said they're they're smart racing families

I know, you know, but $200,000 for a midweek deal that all these great drivers basically

Greed upon. Yeah, that's huge. Yeah, especially having flow there. So, you know, yeah, Zane'sville is not close to us

It's it's quite a haul for a more wear hat. So but it's kind of I think

Well, just like wise, I think it's the best case in the air of your team because

Zane'sville's right in between El Doran

Busch with you. Yeah, I mean, just got to go a little more

Little more east, but it's not you know from Zane'sville to West Virginia more speedways only a few hours

Yeah, so I mean, I mean, it's right in between

And I think it's good to have it on Wednesday because if

Some mother nature thing creeps up in El Doran wouldn't go to Sunday

Then, you know, that gives you Monday off Tuesday off to get there instead of having a like on Tuesday where you're rushing

I mean, I think it's yeah, I think they did a lot of planning the way it sounds on this

Yeah, like I said, it's it's always comforting to know it's a racing family behind it that right, you know

Like you said they communicated they've gotten opinions

To try to work it out so I'm working on our helping. Yeah, I'm sure family work on this for like

Yes, I had this idea for a couple of years. Yeah, no, and it's good to series

You know, I let it happen to not trying to get too cute with things. Yep

We'll see more details to come, but yes, I did forget about putting it on my list. Yeah, thank you for bringing that up

And it's in Ohio. Yeah, that's right. It's far from us, but it's in Ohio. That's right

Yeah, track I never been to

Believe it or not. I know you'll find that surprising shot. I've only been to it

Two or three times. Yeah, I know two for sure. Maybe three

First time

It's not good just dusky gum as it's been called in the past. Oh, I mean, Ohio tracks are dusty. Yeah

No, I was taping

I actually helped the All Stars at night do video and you video from the roof

Of the press box. Ah, that is very sloped with no railings or anything. Yes

It's a deal. That was an interesting night. That's all I got to say

Um, the few other notes Donald McIntosh joins Colton Farms racing. Yeah, that Mitchell's departing

There's some burrows Anthony burrows and

Ricky Thornton junior re re-union

Over at Kohler Motorsports

Um burrows got interviewed at the dome

Uh, we saw the JCM 19M was a question

Going in the offseason Brendan Smith is tapped into that for this year

They had a great dome return to the Lucas Oil series had a good dome a lot of

Conversation about a joiner staying in that ride, but it sounds like

Joiner obviously joiners not in it, but I've heard questions on the Kubota sponsorship with with joiners maybe

So on joiners are supposed to buy an racetrack eight almost a lot of slip

Thing I think I think they're from what I'm hearing

Uh, they're buying Milton

No, there's southern speedway where all it is. No, I think it's

Is it jerky is having all the problems? Oh, yeah

Um, because they released their schedule the hunt the front series schedule

Uh as well, which again all south-eastern Georgia Tennessee Alabama, Mississippi

They are coming up to West Virginia for a three-day weekend and Memorial Day weekend. So that's pretty cool there

Um, but you know nothing close to us, but uh

Another series that's been on the rise as of late

Um, we see what awesome just going through uh

Overton's team drops the factory label the longhorn factory team, but rigs and overton still staying around

Overton's gonna have the equipment down by his house

He likes to be more hands-on. Hopefully that'll you know get them on the right track

That is uh some of the news for the late model side of the world

heard anything else spring car-wise Dwayne

No, and uh surprise because you know Donnie was a big one, which uh, bam

Before PR. Thank you Donnie for putting that out while we're recording at least after um

I know and you know we still have some questions there of

you know supposed a uh

What was Johnny Gibson or one of the outlaw guys were saying they

Spiked three rookies next fair of three guys run the outlaws for the first time which

They say those rumors is one of them which obviously

I think it happened inside. Yeah, if there's company on him um

Trying to think who three would be, you know

Yeah, it's hard to find teams that are and be able to take that week these days

Well, and no, I would have sought geniteness and maybe but he just won 50,000 in power. I you know

Uh

You know he he did that pretty good. It's like is that enough to keep him doing power

I would think so because they're a lot closer his home

But who knows yeah

Well, so I think we'll hear a lot of stuff this weekend or on PRI yeah, I'm assuming

If you sacks are like usual, they usually put uh

So crowd one day midgets one day and sprints one day at PRI so I'm very proud to assume

That's gonna be the same. Yeah

Alrighty

Well, that's all I got. I'm sure missing something we got the rumble coming up here in a couple weeks and Fort Wayne

Sounds like we're gonna have some dirt nerd go cards there again

Good deal. It's not planned and the last minute change of plans. So

Uh in the kid cart class. Are you gonna be racing?

Me yeah, what the hell am I gonna race?

My fat ass you can run the heavy do you? They don't got the ginormous rags class

That's your old class that they have at some of the places. Yeah, no, uh, no

We should talk to Larry about that that we could race. We have a match race. Have you been don't don't talk to Larry?

Don't going on or the rumble's going on because he is the grumpyest

Fucker. You'll ever find

The coin is going on that same weekend. Oh, is that the same we can have some decent entries there? I saw yeah

Um, yeah, so we got the rumble coming up 19th and 20th be sure to check it out. Hey, it's some racing to be had

Supposedly over 300 some entries. Yeah, because they got cards Carter midgets

Midgets 600 so I'm dead non-linked. Yeah, so supposedly there's over 300 some entries right. Yeah, pretty big uh

Pretty big gunner tank and we know February there's go kart race happening. Yes

Mr

Marion someone I know is the director of marketing or something now or yeah

You don't have enough to do

February 28th. I believe it's the last area February. Not sure

Marry no high old go kart racing. The fairgrounds, right?

Yeah, whatever the Coliseum is there marrying Coliseum. So just north of Columbus by a little bit

Um, yeah, I'm helping him out. He made a big Facebook post on marketing director

He's been selling stuff. I'm trying to sell some stuff. I sold a few things uh

It's really cheap marketing really. I mean

Like he's got I think uh

You can sponsor a class for like 250 bucks. I think I think there's just cheapest 50 bucks

So that's anything to try to get you know more money into it and help help them out

Uh, you don't keep it going. I know uh, yeah a lot of people

said there's a lot of potential there

Because they brought it back for the first time in quite a while and they just joined

up with the rumble and

Allair is going to do at least uh show or two in the hog barn again because they're doing a triple crown series. Uh, the rumble

Um, Marion and one of them

At uh, the hog barn. They're gonna have special points fun and everything for those three races. Gotcha. So yeah

Yeah, so yeah, Marion should be good. I've never been there. So uh, I'll probably check it out. Yeah, for sure

Well

That'll do it for us and or

But he uh Devon Shields has got some snowmobiles to repair when he gets uh back from snowmobiling this weekend

So the crash them well

Got a little crash got lost had to go to a house to find gas and the one so it was quite the uh quite the uh

Right the adventure it sounds like the hack everyone's phones were dying no more GPS got lost and then you know

This is the first trip up there braiding the big blue dozer shields decides he knows better takes off

Gets lost from everyone else and yeah sounds like a fun trip lots of I told Devon I go and just tell him

It's like the races where if you can load it up in one piece. It's considered a good weekend

You know, but uh when you let the younger guys take the reins apparently. It's not how it works. So

Yeah, so uh lots of fun to be head in the winter needless to say so hopefully I'm out there is enjoying it safely

My friends and shields racing

Yeah, I own the cars. I don't own the snowmobiles. I can't be held responsible put it that way

So maybe you should be yeah, yeah, Mickey Mouse operation they got going on out

The hack anyway

With the hire for a crew chief. We'll be back

The Monday after the rumble actually so it'll work out well again

Uh, well not record next week. So week of Christmas. We'll be back with another episode

As always thank you for listening. Thank you for tuning in

We had we had uh, we're almost an hour and 40 minutes in this one. Whoa, oh pretty good. We're good at talking

I guess is what that means

Sure don't say anything value, but we're good to talk right

Yeah. So thanks for listening to us. I suppose to tell

Uh-huh

Is that evolve trophies at all?

No

Listeners like you want to blow it? You want us to wanna get some popularity?

Jesus Christ. All right, that'll do it for us. Thanks for listening. Thanks for tuning in.

Share it with your friends, family. Tell them all about their nerds podcast. Tell them about

two idiots talking to microphones. Maybe have a good thought everyone's in a while.

Till then, we'll see you after the rumble. Stay dirty, everybody.

Episode 385 - Pierce Dominates the Dome, Donny Finds a Ride and The WoO Schedule Is Out!

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floor

banking

PA 410 Sprint Series

Williams Grove Speedway

Lincoln Speedway

Bedford Path Valley

sprint cars

Lucasola Speedway

Charleston Track

Mocha Kato

Brownstown Fall Brawl

Spring Point

non-wing spring car

USAC

kid kart

match race

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