Driving While Awesome Mar 5, 2026

F.A.T. Ice Race, Car We Would Erase From History, and the Best First Car - DWA! Podcast Ep. #925

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Toyota Corolla

The Toyota Corolla is a small, popular car that many people drive because it is reliable and easy to maintain. It's often talked about in car communities because some people like to make it faster or cooler.

Concept

Keiichi Tsuchiya

Keiichi Tsuchiya is a famous race car driver from Japan who helped make drifting, a style of driving where the car slides sideways, very popular. Many car fans look up to him.

Concept

ice race

Ice racing is when cars race on ice or snow, so they have to be careful because it's slippery. They use special tires to help them not slide around.

Car

Ford Bronco

The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV that can drive on rough and slippery surfaces like ice. It is strong and built to handle tough driving conditions.

Car

Meyers Manx

The Myers-Manx is a small, fun car made for driving on sand and dirt. It has a light body and is easy to drive off-road.

Car

Porsche Boxster

The Boxster is a small, sporty car made by Porsche that has two seats and a roof that can open. People like it because it’s fun to drive and feels very balanced on the road.

Concept

Yellowstone Club

The Yellowstone Club is a very fancy and private place where rich people have homes and can ski or play golf. It's not open to just anyone.

Term

Porsche Ambassador

A Porsche Ambassador is someone who talks about and shows off Porsche cars to help people learn about them and get excited.

Car

Porsche 911

The 911 is a famous fast car made by Porsche that has its engine in the back. It’s well-known for being fun to drive and looking cool.

Car

Nissan Patrol

The Nissan Patrol is a big SUV that can drive on rough roads and off-road. It's strong and can handle tough places where normal cars can't go.

Term

two-wheel drive

Two-wheel drive means only two of the car's wheels get power from the engine. This can make it harder to drive on slippery or rough roads.

Concept

Radwood

Radwood is a fun car show where people bring cars from the 1980s and 1990s. It's a place to see old cool cars and meet other car fans.

Car

Toyota Celica

The Celica is a small sporty car made by Toyota that many people liked because it was fun to drive and looked good.

Car

Porsche 944

The Porsche 944 is a sporty car made by Porsche. It drives well because its engine is in the front and the power goes to the back wheels.

Part

clutch

The clutch is a pedal you press to switch gears in a manual car. It helps the car change speed smoothly.

Part

e-brake

The e-brake is a hand or foot brake that helps keep the car still when parked or if the regular brakes don't work.

Term

put it in gear

To put a car in gear means to choose how fast or slow it goes by changing the gear stick or selector.

Car

Ferrari Enzo

The Ferrari Enzo is a very fast and special car made by Ferrari. It was built in small numbers and uses racing technology to go really fast.

Car

Rolls-Royce Ghost

The Rolls-Royce Ghost is a very fancy and comfortable car that many people buy to ride in style. It has a big engine and is made with very high-quality materials.

Car

Ferrari 250 GT

The 250 GT is an old, very fancy Ferrari car that was fast and looked beautiful.

Part

hand beaten aluminum panels

These are metal parts of the car's body that are shaped by hand to fit perfectly. They're made from aluminum, which is light and strong.

Concept

Pikes Peak hill climb car

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Part

yoke steering wheel

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Car

Porsche 914

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Car

Audi RS4

The RS4 is a fast and sporty Audi car that can drive well in all weather because it has power to all its wheels.

Car

Porsche 959

The 959 is a very fast and special Porsche from the 1980s that had lots of new technology for its time.

Car

Lancia Stratos

The Stratos is a very special old car that was great at racing on rough roads and looks very unique.

Car

Audi Quattro

The Quattro is an old Audi car that had power going to all four wheels, making it good for racing and driving in bad weather.

Brand

Lamborghini

Lamborghini is a company that makes very fast and fancy cars that look cool and are fun to drive.

Car

Dodge Charger

The Charger is a big, strong car from America that can go really fast and looks tough. Many people like it because it feels powerful to drive.

Car

Dodge Challenger

The Challenger is a sporty car that looks like old muscle cars but is made with modern parts. It’s known for being fast and fun to drive.

Car

Tesla Cybertruck

The Tesla Cybertruck is a new kind of electric truck that looks very different from regular trucks. It is made to be very strong and uses electricity instead of gas to run.

Car

Tesla Model S

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Car

Infiniti G35

The Infiniti G35 is a fancy car made by Nissan's luxury brand. It has a powerful V6 engine and is fun to drive.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

The Corvette is a famous fast car from America that many people want because it’s quick and looks cool. It’s been around for a long time and keeps getting better.

Car

Chrysler PT Cruiser

The PT Cruiser is a small car that looks old-fashioned on purpose, but it’s not very fast or fancy inside.

Brand

Jeep

Jeep makes cars that are good for driving on rough roads and outdoors. They are simple and strong vehicles that many people like for adventures.

Car

Ford F150S

The Ford F-150 is a big truck that many people use for work or everyday driving. It's strong and can carry heavy loads or tow trailers.

Car

Subaru Outback

The Outback is a car that looks like a mix between a car and a small SUV, and it can drive well on rough roads. Many people use it for trips and outdoor activities.

Term

rear wheel drive

Rear wheel drive means the car's engine sends power only to the back wheels. This can make the car fun to drive and handle well.

Term

NA

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Brand

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There's no doubt. Correts are fast.

What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate?

Keiichi Tuchiya.

Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?

It's like a little salamander or something, you know?

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Welcome to Driving Well Awesome.

My name is Warren.

I'm Lane.

I got two shady cats over here, bandit and barrel,

acting real shady.

Always, dude.

Yeah, they're not.

They're up to no good, I think I can tell right now.

Did you guys see the Lunar Eclipse last night?

I'd never heard of it.

I should say this morning.

No.

Lunar Eclipse.

Lunar.

The moon is out.

It was a full moon eclipse, and I knew it was happening at 3.30 in the morning,

and for some reason I woke up.

Maybe someone like made a noise.

I woke up at 3.30.

Did you?

Yeah.

That was your sign, Lane.

It was 3.33 in the morning on 3.3.

Dude, I woke up at 3.30, and I'm like, why am I up, dude?

And I was kind of up for half an hour.

Dude, that was your time.

So I went out there and looked at it.

I got up, looked at it, went uh-huh.

Also, saw a shooting star.

I don't want to brag, but that's the kind of stuff that's happening.

Dude, I didn't see any of that, and I was up.

Lane, you have all people.

You're a riser.

I know, but I didn't know it was happening.

You didn't tell me when we hung out yesterday.

That's true.

I didn't really know about it until Sara mentioned it,

and it was like, and it was very cool.

It was very rusty reddish.

You're supposed to tell me these things.

I know.

You're the weather guy in our friendship group.

And now I feel bad.

We should have eclipse talk anytime there's an eclipse.

Yeah, dude.

Yeah.

Totally.

Any natural phenomenon should happen.

It was pretty sweet.

I was in my boxers with a blanket on my deck.

That's sick, dude.

That's a good set.

That's fire.

Of course, I couldn't go back to bed for two hours,

so that was pretty fun.

You might relate to this, and Lane,

maybe just staying up

and trying to acclimatize

to the East Coast time.

Oh.

We're about to be in getting up at 6 a.m.

East Coast time,

which is so brutal for us

on these short weekend trips

to go into the Amelia Island concor.

So that was on my mind,

and then I said, nah,

not going to do that.

Bed sounds pretty good.

Yeah.

You don't want to do that to yourself, dude.

No, no.

Is that your move?

The bummer is there's not a single,

Art and I have had

sometimes where they'll be like a day

where we don't have to be there

until 10 or 11 or something at work.

And so we have a little time

to get up slow, maybe grab breakfast

and go, but I think this trip

it's going to be like nonstop.

Really?

Yeah, even our flight out.

I think Art's got to be at the airport

at 6 or 7.

In the morning?

You should be up cooking breakfast.

Why didn't you get a later flight?

The flights from Jacksonville

to the Bay Area

or even California are terrible.

They're all...

You're either going to get...

I love...

Okay, so technical difficulties there, folks.

Art, do you see...

Art, do you have a light on?

I'm steady.

I have a steady recording light on now, yeah.

If you didn't hear Art

in that first part of the show,

if we chose to post that,

it's because he wasn't recording.

Hey, so I just...

I paused that.

I didn't hit stop all the way and start a new file.

I just paused it and then started again.

Is that going to be fine?

No.

Yeah, that's fine.

I can figure it out.

Oh man, sorry, Lane.

All right, so we were talking...

We were talking about...

Going to the east coast

and now you just got back

from Bozeman, Montana

in the ice race.

Fat ice race.

I did.

Mantae? Something to do with it?

Maybe a mantae?

What about Thai food?

Maybe.

Yeah, so you were talking about

going to a tea house, but...

Oh, I was just saying...

I was saying a late flight is nice

because you can kind of

have a relaxing morning

and I was able to

hang out.

We walked around downtown Bozeman

which was very nice.

Very nice old buildings.

Went to a tea house, had tea.

There you go.

Walked to go have lunch.

Randomly met up with Justin Roeser

on the street.

And then had him go

to lunch with us.

Nice, sweet.

So that was fun.

Is he coming to Amelia?

I know his friend is.

So the buddy that was there...

I don't think he's going.

Harper Porsche will be there.

With their June bug,

they have a 964.

It's like metallic.

It's like chrome.

And it was at ice race.

And they're bringing it dirty.

I was just emailing with him

and he said he's bringing it

straight from there.

Uncleaned and that it won

the ice race.

It won the division.

Is there divisions?

Yes, because the fastest car

at ice race was the Bronco.

Driven by...

I forget who drove it.

A Ford Bronco?

Yeah, like the trophy truck.

Gnarly frame.

Two frame.

That's interesting.

Because I feel like that's something

that I don't think I even saw

a single image of that.

I posted one photo of it.

I missed it.

Pretty early on.

It was like the last big frame.

One of my posts.

And it was pretty small in the frame.

But yeah, that thing was

ripping.

It was in the four-wheel drive class.

It was just like...

The guy was just...

V8, he was just stomping on it

and tossing it at a turn.

It's probably going as fast as he would

in any other condition.

What's this car that you posted

for our questions post?

It looks like a Myers-Manx-ish

or a Porsche.

So that's a Myers-Manx.

It's a Myers-Manx

slash

Tuthill

based on a

Porsche

997, maybe?

Something like that?

I think so.

I forget which Porsche is underneath it.

Something like that.

Underneath.

Maybe it's even a Boxster or something.

But yeah, it's...

I think it's rear-engine.

So it's like 997 or something.

But yeah, it's pretty wild, dude.

That's the one that was at...

It was at the quail this year.

Do you remember it?

I do.

The picture of it, it looks like it maybe got

some changes, tweaks, and then

it didn't recognize it.

The color change, maybe.

And I believe Richard Tuthill

was driving it.

He's kind of a madman.

Yeah, it was super cool.

That's awesome.

Speaking of Richard Tuthill,

there's that video of him ripping around

with the 911K.

Yeah, with Chris Harris just

scaring the shit out of him

in the passenger seat.

So rad, dude.

Yeah, he's going crazy.

Yeah.

So that sounded like a really fun event.

I mean, you guys, you had a big crew

of at least a lot of familiar faces.

And then it sounded fun.

Super rad.

Dude, it was super fun.

Yeah, I wish you guys would have been there.

No, I think next year I'm going to go.

My buddy works at Yellowstone Club.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Who works? Do I know this person?

My buddy Serb.

He's a food and beverage director.

I know Serb.

Yeah, he's now full-time there.

So he was doing seasonal stuff.

And now he's all in and moving to Montana.

Right.

It's not exactly a place you can just show up

and hang.

But I think for something like this,

there's probably an angle.

So yeah, let's definitely get on the radar

for next year.

No, totally.

And I think it's same time next year.

So I think they're going to try and make

it a regular thing.

And this is going to be the location now.

Like they did in Aspen two years ago.

Kind of didn't work out for that location

just because Aspen wasn't as accommodating.

And it was in the town of Aspen.

And Aspen is not cheap,

but Aspen is like next level

for accommodations and getting in

and out of all that.

And this is at the Yellowstone Club,

basically on their property.

And the owners of the Yellowstone Club

also own.

They're the ones that bought Willow Springs.

Oh, okay.

And all that.

So they are just like all in on this stuff.

And they're friends with Ferdy

and Ferdy Porsche who runs this.

And then our good friend,

I want to give a shout out to Chris Harrell,

who was like basically office manager

for this whole event.

Yeah, Chris.

That's such a small world stuff.

Yeah, I love that kind of thing

where you're like, oh yeah.

How is Cheyenne involved?

I haven't talked to him in a while.

It was him and Chris Harrell.

Okay, they're handling operations.

Yeah, basically.

Yeah, I guess it would be operations

because they were handling, I believe,

like kind of like tickets,

insurance,

day of kind of like

all that kind of touch points and stuff.

Right.

Yeah, so awesome, man.

But it was, yeah, it was,

I mean, I don't know how deep we want to go,

but it was

it was cool, dude.

It was like, it's definitely one of those things,

I think also like next year

is bound to be a little different

because I think this is like,

this was like,

I think there was around 2,500 people.

Oh, that's precisely.

And I would say most of those people

were like influencers

slash like, you know,

notable people in the car world.

Industry types.

Industry type.

So it was there, I mean,

if it's on that property,

I mean, I know that's a very exclusive location.

Yeah.

Is it open to the public or do you have to have

a ticket to spectate as well?

I haven't even looked.

You have to have it.

Yeah, tickets were,

I think 350 bucks or something

or 400 bucks or something like that to go.

And you have to bus in

to the property.

Six miles in or something like that.

Oh, wow.

And it's like deep into this property basically.

And then they had a VIP lounge area.

Those tickets are $3,500 each.

And it was kind of,

everyone was dressed up like,

a lot of people were dressed up in like

70s,

like style 80s fur coats.

Like their moms fur coats and stuff.

It was pretty wild, dude.

Or like 90s, 80s ski suits.

Yeah.

I felt very ski, like ski lodge from the

80s.

It looked like a hot tub time machine.

Oh, I see.

What's his face there?

I'm just picturing

like your Santa, like Samarit's

sort of crowd, right?

It's like that. Have you guys heard of Don

Tolover? No.

The rapper, he was there.

He's a Porsche Ambassador.

He was driving his Dakar 9-11

and he's

he's a

P. Diddy Long was training him.

Oh, Pilo.

Yeah, Pilo. So Pilo is there.

Talk to Pilo for a minute. Nice.

Was that Nissan Patrol actually working now?

Dude, yeah, I was working

Forsberg. Yeah.

That's a tough car for that, though.

Dude, two-wheel drive, too.

And also extremely wide tires,

which I imagine for ice is not ideal.

You know, it was

cool. Like there was like

so the Nissan Patrol was

at Radwood, NorCal.

The Celica, Chris Forsberg

or sorry, that's Chris Forsberg.

Ryan Turric Celica was at Radwood

Yep.

Texas

and that was there and

he was ripping it the second day.

Oh, good. Like I think

he won, might have won his class or something.

I mean, he was like

he definitely said, you know, when he went out

I think he was the maybe the first

car out or one of the first cars

the second day. First day was

like felt a little like cars

were it was actually also really

icy and cars were kind of sliding around

not really getting the groove of things.

The second day, like when

Turric went out, he

kind of set a precedence and people

you're like, oh shit, dude.

He was around that course, dude.

Yeah. And then also the

944, the big lifted one

from Texas, Radwood, Texas

was there.

So yeah, like there was some Radwood

presence there. Pretty

cool to see. That's great.

Yeah, I got to drive that.

The, I forget what he's calling

it. I think he's calling the GT4

11. When we

offloaded it at Amelia

and at the time

Celica. Yeah, the Celica. So if you look

at Ryan Turc's account, you'll see it. But the funny

thing about that was that when it

got there, the

guy, it was just on a it was it was the

only car on the truck

the guy that was offloading. It's like, hey,

just want to let you know it doesn't have any brakes.

I'm like, does that have a clutch? No, it doesn't have a clutch.

It doesn't have an e-brake

and so you can't put it in gear.

You can't

be a new you can't do it. Basically, you're just kind

of like floating around. So there

Warren took a video. I was steering it

and there was probably like 10 guys

around the car and it's

spotting it. Yeah, just basically pushing

and pulling and like as we needed to slow

down, you know, like it's just to try to

control it because we literally had to get it across

the entire field where we needed to

stage it.

It's a funny little video. I think you even like

sped it up. It's like kind of cartoony, right?

Yeah, you put that clown

like that.

Yeah, and it also

like yeah, it was at the time it was

definitely obviously not complete. So

it had a lot of

like some wires and loose things everywhere.

So I mean, they finally put it together.

It's been a year actually. So

yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it seemed like it was going pretty good.

Yeah, but that there was some

some of the like talking about some of

the notable cars

Ferrari Enzo

and

the guys I think his name

is share the Enzo on Instagram

no comment

to drive the ghost. So that's the

driver guy and then the other the owner

is share the Enzo maybe or something

like that or no maybe they just call

the car share the Enzo

catcher or

but the whole story is like I guess

he went and was looking

at a Ferrari when he was a kid and basically

the owner told him to get away from the car

and he vowed

from then on that he would get a Ferrari

and share it with everyone. So

the cool thing was like everywhere that car

was he just leaves the door open and lets people

get in and out of it and so nice.

I'd like to drive the car

if he's interested in that. I know right

art that black over

red Enzo that's being sold

abroad arrow this weekend that we'll see in person

soon. What was the estimate again

like 17 or something

like the delivery

super rare black Enzo

and 17

million crazy

man oh man

asset that's insane so this guy

actually he put it kind of into the wall

dude I had that one picture

that one picture is it

I didn't notice that to the wall dude yeah

was that on your own on

DWA on it's on both I shared

yeah and the

driver guy he commented I hope

you got a picture of it and I told him

it was a couple pictures back

there was a Ferrari

250 GT

in yellow which is so

dope dude short wheelbase and

Chris Harris was driving that thing around

he was getting all sideways

yeah that was super cool

Hucker moments dude

yeah so hard to

drive a car in those conditions and then

if like anything touches that particular

car it's going to just crumple immediately

there's like a hand beaten aluminum

panels like

yeah

it was driving this pike pikes peak hill

climb car

there was a bunch of that stuff like bbi had a

993 out there but there was

like that race car with the big the face

on it like current like gtp

yeah whatever Le Mans car

Porsche that thing

was so slow out there

could not get grip yeah and

it looks so slow if you go to

Porsche's account I like

everyone go look at it

they have in car footage of a lap

it looks

insane dude like

it looks like it looks

so scary you're like how

did this guy not stuff it like a million

times like I mean

he's driving with a yoke steering wheel for one

oh that's sketch and it is

just like he's he's having to go

hand over fist

with a yoke steering wheel

and

he's just constantly moving that thing back

and forth and the car just has no

traction at all and what are those

I mean what those cars have like 800 horsepower

or something like I don't know

or more and like how would you

the car can even be set up for that it's just

hold on for dear life and

it was just like and it's like a snowplow

the front ends just like picking up all this

stuff and yeah it was

it was pretty crazy

it's entertaining for you guys

for sure yeah

Zwart almost hit that car at one point

because it spun in front of

like from my vantage point it looks

like they it looked like they touched

I actually asked

later I'm like did you guys hit and he's like

no it looked closer than it was

and he's like I knew he was there

kind of thing well we have

we have some pictures from

or I'm sorry we have a few questions

I think from the ice

race if you want to jump into questions

and then if you come up with some more

ice race and it anecdotes

Lane oh I will tell

a funny little

a little story because

I told Warren as I hung

out Warren yesterday

as we were leaving

each other with our boy Ricky

with our boy Rick did

right and Ryan yeah

yeah velocity

I told Warren I said

oh Warren I pulled the most

lane thing yesterday

I mean at I said I said I pulled the

most lane thing and I guess you went

in vans

oh wow I was going to get something

else but yeah and I and I said

yeah basic you just I were like

gosh I basically

I were I have like

new balances version of vans yeah

yeah or those dude yeah because those are a little

more rugged you know and so good

I had to if you look

at some of these pictures

I don't know there's like some of them

you'll look and there's like a tent in the background

I was like behind that tent and these

like woods and there's like

a photo snow and I was back

there the first day for

three hours taking photos

wow and I had to I had

to get back there and the only

way back there is just a hiking in the

snow and

at one point I was like

I think I might lose a toe dude

dude that is awful yeah I'm looking

at just looking at the picture that you posted

right now I mean it's easily

I mean eight inches of snow there

where everybody's standing around

Lane that's kind of like a rise and grind situation

you know what I mean

like you're out there getting content

for the for the peeps like you're with the

influencers for the boys

I know I have to say though real quick

it's so cool

to walk around in proper snow boots

in the snow because it's like it's like

it's like those spike tires dude it's like

because you claw into it and you have so

much traction might stay versus I

dude I was like Hoosiers

dude I was like Magnus Walker in Florida

that one thing or whatever you know

yeah

I so that

that evening I went

bought some north face boots

and I was all good well done nice

but yeah

yeah but yeah we can

move into questions alright yeah first one here

is ice race related

Ben Rogitz asking what would be your

dream ice race car

I guess all of us can answer but mine

I'm like you guys know I'm a

914 boy

Tim Pappas had that 914 6GT

out there it's like million plus

dollar car it was

he was so fast in it he made

the finals I think he won his class or whatever

that car was

it looks so good out there he was like getting

so sideways and

it just looks so fun

it looked like a really fun car out there

and easy to control where some of the cars

just looked intimidating and

and kind of annoying to drive like

I forget I think I was next to

Farrah and he

he asked Harris he's like how was it

out there after he drove the singer and he's like miserable

he's like it sucks

you know yeah so yeah

but the 914 looked really fun I would

I think the 914 would be perfect 914

6GT I like that

yeah so you're going you're going to go drive

just more fun yeah yeah

I think so yeah I could see that

Art do you have one

yeah I'm thinking well

I think it's you want to go with familiarity

I think that's Lane is going that route as well

and you know like Ryan's car

is pretty dialed and I'm very familiar

with that chassis I know I

can drive that well but also at the same time

I kind of which car

well the GT411

but I feel like

I would want to go

I'm like on the fence between

like an RS4

or an RS2

and

but that feels too mundane

at the same time right especially if you

how about a short wheelbase or something

yeah I mean I chose that last week for

the rally

so I was trying to

yeah yeah I know it would

how about 959

it's hard to argue with

that is very hard to argue with

yeah I'm like scanning

I definitely wouldn't want to go in like

actually you know maybe a like a

launch of Stratos would be pretty epic

oh yeah they had that

new they had that new one you know

the new what are the Kamara's or whatever

oh yeah those are 37s yeah

oh 37 sorry

but they had one of the

Kamara's there and that thing was

pretty sick out there they're very cool

he stuffed it in the wall

oh really those are crazy powerful and fast

but yeah I might go Stratos dude

I think that would be pretty epic super short

wheelbase and you know you got that rear engine

weight very agile

that's so it looks so good

out there too

that's a really good answer

I was thinking of going with something ultra

modern and purpose built like

do you remember when Sebastian Loeb

broke the Pike's Peak record and they built

that special Peugeot for him it was like

oh right 208 like

crazy wings and arrow and stuff

like that would be kind of cool because it is

a rally car and it's

purpose built and it's sort of like

an iconic piece of history

but then I was going

with like what you guys are saying and like

an early like synchro

like a golf rally

oh so good would be fun

it would be really fun with like the right

livery and just

that would be pretty safe too like front wheel

or all they're all wheel drive

all wheel drive so it's basically

it's basically quattro synchro

and I think that's

that would be cool it's not quite

as sexy as arts answer but I think it would work

that would look great dude that's pretty

cool though that would look really good and what color

I kind of like that

blueish it's like a

like a dark blue they made

for that car but if it's a race

version maybe we can come up with some good livery

I was thinking

a Subaru 22B would be really good

oh yeah for sure yeah

that might be the best use of a Subaru

yeah that's so

mint says you can erase the car

from history all the generations

of that model the culture surrounding it

and any ripple effects are just gone

what do you choose

oh Lamborghini

that's just

a model

oh he said model or

make

he says you can erase a car all the generations

of that model the culture surrounding

it so I guess it is the model

not a not a company

I know where Lane's going

I mean I don't want to

say it because I like him

okay

I know where this is going

um is it

is it

potentially

a charger challenger

that's pretty good is it challenger

a two door

from all through history

but the old ones are kind of cool

old ones are kind of cool

that's what gets me because I was

thinking the same thing

but you're also thinking of culture right

and so like what's associated with that

and sort of like

people and

that's the ripple effect right so

how about ripple effect

of never seeing a

Cybertruck

oh that's an easy one

for sure

I wouldn't want to say the model

S because that pushed

a lot of things forward in a great way

and I don't think Tesla needs to be

wiped from the base of the earth but

man that car

yes is no good

yeah and then everything that's

that's pretty easy though because it's only one

model and it's only like been one generation

it's like brand new yeah

and Mustang I mean you know

say what you want about Mustang and that culture

but they've also made some pretty sweet

cars and have like always pushed performance

and awesome race cars too

they've always been on the forefront of like

road racing

the history is pretty good

yeah exactly

I wouldn't want to do that

I'm thinking

I don't necessarily want to erase the Z

but how about the G35

and its derivatives

I was thinking the same

along those lines as well

it's just the worst

deleting a VQ

but I think if you erase that you have to go all Z's

it would be 240 or it would be everything

I know but I'm going G35

yes

G35

37 both sedans and coupes

all of them

I was in San Jose this weekend and

this guy was in the turn line ahead of us

and he made a U-turn

but of course he's in a G35

coupe and

all drifted out and he just like

almost lost it and T-boned us

and then tanks slapped back around

and carried on

it's like holy crap dude

was it straight pipe too like as they

sounded like absolute garbage

it was that like pearl white

but it was all dirty and like exhaust all over

and stuff and so gross

was he vaping when he was doing that

out of his nose dude he had the thing in his nose

oh my god dude

what about

I mean we could have a Corvette guys

not really a Corvette

they have a good history

I think there's a similar overlap with the Mustang culture

like I mean in terms of there's also a problem

it's even more of a motorsport

it's underdog and motorsports so good dude

yeah the mall

there's excellent

across the board really

yeah and even the modern

motorsport story of Corvette's

rad right yeah absolutely

it's hard to like really

say like I could say

PT Cruiser or something like that

like that's horrible right like that's

an easy one right that feels too easy

that is too easy

cheese culture and everything associated

yeah but that's like

that's like that's

whatever doesn't I'm trying to think of

more of a poser car that's just

not yeah it's

trying to be

a great performance thing like

yeah because even if you go

SUV or truck like I'm like Jeep

right like current Jeep owners

can be pretty annoying but like they're so

utilitarian and they've done

you know they've made great cars

in the past and

simple I don't want to wipe out all jeeps

yeah

Ford F-150s

you know the same thing

yeah you're like they like built

ever yeah

built America do we want to

do we want to get rid of ultimas or

that's pretty easy

actually because they has there ever been an

ultima you desired no but they also

don't have like a real culture

to them they're just a car that

interesting really bad driver

like no one's wearing ultimate t-shirts

and like going to meets with

ultimas that I know dude but they do

they do ding your car in a park

in parking lots and they do drive very

aggressively I just think they would get

whatever other car was available

they would buy they would buy something

they would buy a centra or the

alternative yeah or whatever

Hyundai or Kia or whatever

yeah

all right tough man

those are some answers

Subaru too like

that's a culture

there's a there's a vape culture there

which model though I mean

that's the thing is I can't

I can't hit on WRX

there's people though that like just

despise the type of owner

a Subaru person is that's more of the

granola you know

like an outback owner

like that's a definitely thing that

people are polarized

against yeah maybe

not an argument

yeah love is

ditto's dad says

as you've gotten older what car did you

dislike in your youth that you now

appreciate

hmm

playing Corbett's

yeah

yeah dude

hmm I know

I have an answer I do too

but I can't think of it

I used to I mean I know

it's not like a car specific but I

used to

I used to like

only

want like the performance

model of everything and I'd be like

oh like

the target versions

lame because it's like a hundred pounds heavier

because it's slower or you know whatever

sure I get that right right like you want

the turbo like you're like now I was like

bench you I would bench race everything

yeah yeah

and you'd be like oh that car's stupid it's

like so slow

and everything was about like

zero to sixty times and stuff like that

where now

it it really

is about like sense of occasion

and stuff like that so like I could and

and I think that's just part of like

that's also part of like where cars

have gone with like electric and all

that kind of stuff too so and wouldn't you

also along with being older too wouldn't you

also say that you might

appreciate simplicity a little

more and just like overall

for maintenance and

you know parts and all this

stuff like right the most crazy model

or you know the most high performance model

is going to be typically

turbo and all-wheel drive or whatever it

is like you're like actually I don't mind

just like that rear wheel drive

you know NA etc etc

well I think well

oddly enough I'm almost I'm

going the opposite direction where like when I was younger

I had zero interest in like

Rolls Royces and like the very

high-end like the ultimate luxury

thing like I just had no

it had no place in my mind wasn't even occupying

space for you exactly and then

now it's like oh dude I can see

like how like you appreciate all of the detail

and like they're extremely well

made beautiful things right and like

they're very very very expensive and

they're you know obviously that makes them

unattainable to a very large group of people

including myself so to a certain extent

still not relevant but I can appreciate

that and I can like you know I can

be down with name your

big-ass like luxury coupe right

I get that so that

would probably be it and that kind of

goes across the board I remember being a

kid thinking like like even actually

you know I had a W126

or a C126 you know the 500

SEC and like thinking like who

would want this gigantic car that's

just two doors like that and

I didn't really that didn't make sense

to me but like now I can appreciate

that and I'm even down with it

I think you got some waft in you

since my answer

is sort of related but

when I was younger you know

high school and such you know my good

buddy Tom is definitely into

the luxury side of things like Cadillac

and you know his parents had a 750

I L and

you know SL's and stuff like that and

we we would just like laugh

at the Lexus

trying to compete with a 7

series or an S class was like

I wouldn't even consider you

know looking at it it's like so boring

and simple and like

not exciting it's not sporty

it doesn't accelerate great

you know it's just not a

interesting car and now

if I'm going to buy one

you know a vintage

version of these cars so from the 90s

early 2000s

I'm way more interested

in a really clean LS 400

sounds great that sounds awesome

I think I would

say the same thing

and so that's probably where I've changed the most

I would never have considered Lexus

back in like you know reading

Car and Driver in 1996 and being like

what the fuck is this thing get out of here

it was only about the BMW

the Audi A8

the S600 it's like

let's see what these guys are doing over here

and they were way fancier they had all these

trick you know options and

power you know

adjustability and

big stereos and stuff and then

Lexus is just over there kind of like

the tortoise and the hare it's just tortoising

its way along and

it's sort of like come out as a

pretty sweet classic so

well simple but well executed right

and that's like understood

and most importantly functional

and it's in reliable

exactly that's like the biggest

so that's how I've changed a lot

and you know when you're in a position to buy

and maintain these things like

yeah an S600 sounds great but then

we all know like it's just a

freaking just an absolute

anchor

when it comes to maintenance

I did as a

kid high schooler I did absolutely

just spies second gen Cameras

and as Joss Loomans

pointed out I do like

them now I like the early ones

second gen

so a split bumper

like 70 through

70 through 74

or whatever

like 70

like split bumper cars and then

the early ones metal bumper yeah

absolutely I mean especially when they're

prepped and look you know the right wheels

and right height and yeah they can

look like really they can look really cool

and like they can look like

very motor sports and very

like almost like

you'd want to tackle a mountain road

and one yeah I like it

they I mean they could look like

well I mean like with enough money

I mean you can yeah

I think you get up on it for sure

yeah SV expert

says

what do you think will be your kids first car

and will you buy it for them

or make them buy it I say

I want to buy my kids

a non running car

at like 14

and they have to fix it

I'm sorry they have to fix it up that way if they crash it

from being dumb it's their hard work

and sweat gone

that's cool dude

the time and it depends

on the car that's cool they'd have to be

interested in like mechanics and wanting

to actually get greasy and

figure out how it all works otherwise you're just

doing that and forcing them but

I guess in a perfect world they're into that stuff

you know Andrew's really

into cars he has opinions

about cars he's I'm sure

very excited to like get to that point

I always say though first car if you can

swing it like is should be

a hot hatch that's where I'm at so

comes down to budget that's gonna be

seven years from now so

is that a GTI is that a

I don't know what's

what else is out there would you go yeah like what

vintage though well I think it comes down to budget so

I don't is it a golf

electric like art has like e-golf

I mean right or does he not get

a car right away because e-bikes are

everywhere and he doesn't get a car till he's

18 19 right like we're talking

about 10 years from now I mean you want the

least safe option you buy him an e-bike

that's true

but damn every kid around here like

now you don't have to ever no insurance

no registration no gas

they're talking about like really

cracking down I know you think that'll happen

I think so

I mean it's it's get I mean there's been quite a

few getting kind of there's fatalities in

town now and so dangerous yeah so they

really my answer is a $5,000

hot hot hatch in

10 years from now

whatever that is whatever that is and you know

within reason like maybe it's a little nicer and a little

more expensive but

yeah and it doesn't have to be a GTI per

say

it could be

just a golf that you

put a couple bits and bobs on

and how's your father

could be a Honda Veloster

or the yeah yeah it could

be a Honda Veloster it could be a Honda fit

it could be you know

I know you love it I love if it could be a

Kia Soul yeah I said it

it's got some soul in there I well I

think well I think actually

Kia Souls have been discontinued so

but in 10 years he's still

he's not going to buy a new bro

yeah I

I don't know I have

a feeling like sort of like a CX

five ish kind of thing would work well

it's exporting up it's safe

most importantly

and you know there's room for the

friends and all that jazz

but I think it's really going to be based

around kind of what

you know it's going to be a combination we'll work with her

maybe we'll do we'll set some

some goals you know around academics

or whatever and then we can kind of see

like alright if you do well we'll get

we'll throw in a certain amount of dough

ideally the ideal scenario in my

mind would be like if she has

like you know a summer job or something and then

she saves that up and then we'll kind

of match whatever she saves up so like

let's say she saves four grand five grand whatever it is

yeah and then we'll match it

that way she has some skin in the game but

I would also because of the

achievement and that she's like committed to this

I would also want to reward her by having her

choose what she likes and I at this

point I mean she likes cars but she doesn't

know what she's really into so

but yeah I'm right we're on the same board

on the same boat though yeah seven seven

eight years away so it's kind of

sooner than we

I was going to say

I would definitely

make him purchase it

whether it's matched you know or

or something but I'm not just buying a

new you know M3

a new Volvo turbo wagon right Lane

well my daughter is 16

I know she's there and a half

and she's got her permit nice

she's got a Polestar too right

and she's gonna get

she'll probably get I mean I think she'll

just float around between our cars really

like between the Polestar

and the Kia because

neither of us like

I don't really need it like

I only need it really when I go to the

airport it's when I really need it

and even then

you don't she'll probably she'll probably just use

it for the most part

use the Polestar that will be kind of her

car

as for like

and it'll still be like

obviously it's under your name I mean

most parents most kids cars are under

the pair of things anyways

she

she also like does so much school

work like I don't want I we don't want

her to have a job or anything so that's where

you get into that whole like being able

like her buying the car it's like she

can't even have a job to make money you

know it's like she she studies

like four hours

every day after school it's like there's

no time for a job

about like a summer job like art was saying

she could she could

have a summer job and she she does

actually she's done she does

babysits and she makes

she made money last summer nice

like that but but

also with that it's like

it's not like she's can't she makes

like you know two thousand

bucks or something twenty five hundred

bucks it's like you want to you

want her to be able to buy clothes

and or whatever or save it

yeah it

and she's so responsible with

their money and stuff too it's not like I

need her to like pay for her

car to I like it really

all tomorrow for

yeah and for her

the car it's not like

I want her to

drive more than she wants to drive

because it's like

it's um

it's it's more beneficial to us for

her to drive than anything else

so of course um

and I want her to be safe

and I also

um you know how

it is like we're the last thing

I'd want is like to have my kid in some

like shitty

um not safe

unreliable car where they're like calling

me because the batter I you know

because it needs work and then I have to deal

with like working on a car

or getting a car home or

whatever um yeah

it's kind of like having a rental property

you know you're like oh great I got to

go I know deal with this water

heater I would uh which I've had

to do in the past totally so I would be

inclined to pick like a you know

Toyota Tacoma or something two wheel drive

really simple but they're just not the safest cars

they're yeah especially for

young people and weather or like where we

live there's a lot of mountain roads passive or active

dude yeah like they're just not

good cars uh for

handling and breaking

and you know I think active

safety safety is a huge thing for

a young driver yeah or just

having a car that's like that can steer

brake yeah yeah

front wheel drive too like I mean

right like if you're talking about a GTI like

what's better than getting car control

feel out of a car like that first

and definitely moving along

so uh

this nice life says in your

opinion what was the best sounding vehicle

at fat ice race

dude this is Andrew

menace I believe

do you know Andrew menace at a way Andrew

sounds familiar

yeah I met him there um

and I feel like we've crossed paths before

probably all of us have but yeah super cool

dude um

dude the sound

like I didn't really

like when I

I was asked that by someone else

and I'm like I don't remember hearing

any of the cars you don't remember

it's like well it's because the valley

we were you were freezing and

once you're yeah maybe that's it

your senses I think that's what it

is dude I think it's like the valley

we were in or whatever but

there was nothing for the sound to bounce

off of or um

I don't know what it was but the one

car that like

made a lot of noise and I did hear

was that

Bronco trophy truck thing

and you know it's just big V8 noises

and that sound you know it's pretty rad

besides that like

there was a Pagani wire out there dude

and I could barely hear it

whoa okay I'm surprised Enzo

didn't get a shout out because I mean

Enzo sounds amazing or the 250

GT short wheelbase like that and Enzo

felt quiet dude

there was a brand new Corvette

ZR1 out there I think was so quiet

hmm yeah putting down

1200 horsepower or whatever they put down

Jesus I thought I was going to

dig a hole in the ice though I was like

I bet yeah a real

Chris Baca says when does Lane's

coffee table book drop and

can I write the forward

dude so this is

just like photos of

coffee

oh that

actually that's

it's pretty good most boring that's the

most boring book you know top down

yeah like you have a lot of coffee

pictures like it might be in a

in a real or you know what am I trying

to say we can do it of Chris's

latte art there exactly yeah well

maybe that's like a little bunnies and

like that's got to be automotive I mean

I'm guessing that's why he wants to write the forward

yeah yeah yeah yeah

so TBD

I have thought about making a coffee table book

that would be fun well if you do it make it

like Kramer's where it is a coffee table

little legs pop out so good

I think that's the move

Matt Shure says

are you guys going on the rally

to McGaragawa

Lane is I will be on

that yeah that should be

a lot of fun

sweet I will be

on that I don't know what I'm going to

what car I'm going to be in or what I'm

doing but I will be on it I just

Tark I saw

I saw our pal Mark Arsenal

and I said he's going to be on it

oh cool sweet

and

yeah but a few other people

so yeah should be fun be a nice time

Vlad Hooligan

says what's a new

2026 car truck

you would consider buying for your needs

and budgets could be a daily

rally etc I'm not in the market

myself but the new Civic Si and

our models look like really solid

propositions I think that's true

I saw a Civic Type R the other day it was white

and coming that front angle is so

nice like yeah it's wide

it's got the right yeah just

it's not overly busy

I like the interior too

I know I really like the interior

I agree and I'm right there

in adjacent

Integra Type S yeah I

think they're so they're such

an awesome all arounder like it

it's kind of faultless and I think

like it looks great it's got a hatchback

it's got plenty of room it's a four door all of it

like it's a really really solid

all arounder the one

on our rally looks so good really good

yeah I mean I we just

bought a new car you know a couple

year and a half ago or whatever which is the

CX 50 Mazda and

it's great I have very few complaints

about it it it handles great

it looks good it's

whoa it's

so loud wow I was

slicked up

you know real automatic

transmission no start stop all these things

like it's a great car so CX

50 Mazda what else is

catching my eye these you know what I I mean

the new GTI one car of the year and

Motor Trend and it's supposed

to be really good like they fixed all the bumper

the button stuff that's right

so and it's kind of like

yeah that

that seems like a really good car

I really like

the looks of the new Honda

pilot oh yeah like with

and the off-road one looks really

good dude I saw one

the other day and I was like man if I was

like buying Heidi another car right now that

that's probably yeah just by looking

at it like it's just such a

clean box and

nice little details on that off-road

edition one or whatever it's called

I'm sure

I'm sure it's not like

it's not like an off-road car

but it just has like it just looks cool

yeah I thought it looked really good

and clean and

just a good looking vehicle I agree

yeah I mean the one that I'm

holding off for that I actually do want

as a replacement for my golf is the R3

or the R I mean I don't know if they're really

gonna make the R3 X dude supposedly

they had one up I went

to a Rivian party

and they keep just showing

this these stupid R1s dude and I'm like

I was talking to the photographer

for Rivian like where's the R3

dude you know and he's like

oh dude we have one out here oh really

I'm like I photographed it he's like

but it's like I don't know if they're just gonna show it

or not oh just for like yeah private

yeah

yeah they're just not showing it

anywhere I'm like yeah I was surprised there was nothing

at the quail yeah they're claiming

they built a whole new factory I can't remember

where but specifically to run that line

so and I and our twos I think

so I know it's in the works

I mean I'm just hoping that the company survives

so that they I know yeah

I was just surprised because Rivian

was like a big sponsor of the ice race

and they were running on and they did that

rad program they sold rad for most

dude I was gonna know handle some lawsuits

dude they even use the Toyota

stripes I know

totally yeah I'm like dude they use they still

rad and then put Toyota stripes on it

well

but

yeah I was like

it was surprising that they

I guess they don't have one far enough

in development to bring it out to you would think

they would bring it to ice I mean I saw it

at Pebble Beach last year I looked at a prototype

and they weren't letting you sit in it where

where was it was near that concept Pebble

Beach yeah it was at that you know

the the offsite Mercedes Benz

by good like they have the job why didn't

they have it at quail then I don't know

it wouldn't let me really get too close

to it and it was definitely not a production

vehicle you know it had all the weird

stuff going on like you could just look

closely clay no it was

a real car but it was just not

not still working on details

yeah there is one that they

that you see featured on occasion

here and there and it looks very complete

they have a standard one and an R3

X I've seen it pop up on reels

and stuff I think it's at their HQ

and down south here but

yeah yeah I mean I don't know we'll see

I mean supposedly it's still in the works

but yeah that just checks all the boxes for me

I want like a really small you know

very good like dynamic hatchback

and yeah that thing looks rad

it's basically a modern

Delta Integraale so

aesthetically it's there and it checks

all the boxes for my such a cool

replacement for the golf yeah perfect

use case I haven't looked at use prices

or if you have to buy a new but

I do really like the look

of the Toyota Crown

Signia those are cool which

is sort of a perfect

just appliance it's

a hybrid it's

sort of a you know

sport wagon but it sits

a little high and yeah it's

very rare and unique and

I think it's just a cool car

that was that's like that question we got asked last week

was like what new car is going to be

really cool in 25 to 30 years

that's one of them because I don't think they're going to make

them forever like very long at all I think it's going to be

very quick in and out

yeah they're cool and you never see them

even the regular crowns are really rare they're

funky but very rare

let's see

here Bobby Reed with the car

says I'm packing my jorts

and my new balance shoes and taking my 71

bridge Hampton blue Corvette

on the camping while awesome vintage rally

I need to get new tires

I have two sets of wheels for this car

factory rally wheels

and the vintage Hallibrand five spokes

with painted gray spokes

which wheels

would you like to see on the Corvette

Hallibrands

yeah Hallibrands are pretty hard

to beat those are sick and they have

knockoffs usually too and like that's like

it's like a period mod it's like

if you asked me should I put rudge wheels

on my speedster or

bring the standard one

what are the finned wheels called

like the well those are hubcaps

no no they made

a finned Corvette

wheel for like a 67

wait aren't like the ones that

um that um

what's his face has on his that he's brought out a

bunch of times

Andrew yeah do off a low yeah

yeah I'm pretty sure Andrew's

car has hubcaps

no I don't think so

I have to look it up look it up

I think he has steelies with hubcaps

right or oh no

he has the finned ones they're right

oh yeah you're right I just

looked them up yeah they're they're really cool

looking they're like alpina style I mean

you know a better word but uh

like 67's you could get it

yeah those are cool remember what they're called

those are wrap but I I think

the uh the uh

Hallibrands Hallibrands would be

super dope dude yeah and then get

get some good rubber on them like some can you

get CM 36 or something get some like

road race from Avons like dude

well you know what the answer is it's

Avons you're a rubber

some some like Avons or like

yeah exactly that's what I said yeah

yeah or even like the old school

like good your eagle with like

the yellow script I mean yeah

that's kind of drive that well that's

what I was saying CM 36 I guess

some good stuff I know but did they make

them for that size it's like what

15 by it's

I don't know they're probably not that wide

on a car like that oh maybe

yeah maybe they are wide too wide

huh yeah Avons size is available

Avons yeah Bobby's

spend $500 a tire on Avons

you know no big deal

Bobby's got it like that that's right

um I think it's all about

that period correct look though right I mean

the cheapest option is the

Chris paneling radial TAs

yeah of course which don't look bad

I mean it's good no

they drive pretty well right

they're totally great yeah

especially current construction like it's

probably way better than what was on

period so that's your default if you can't

find anything better but like a rad Avon

or like a vintage

good year

if they've got the new compounds and stuff

that would be cool too um

but tires are like

it's a personal thing man you know

but well he's asking about wheels

so I think he's

yeah I'm just asking the question and I

think how brands

how brands for sure yeah

desperately seeking

Suzuki says do you think

the proliferation of

cheap speed with electric cars has actually

helped the slow car fast movement

for example now that anyone can go fast

do you think that people are looking for new

ways to have automotive experiences

100%

I do think it has yeah yeah

you're gonna find a lot more hipsters

revolting from

said cars right

yeah I think more people are kind

of understanding

the whole movement

right there's more

and it isn't even just slow car fast

it's just the engagement like all of the other

elements that go beyond just

as like Lane said like when you're a kid all you

look at is numbers right it's like

like this is the fastest right the acceleration

or power versus like everything else

that you know goes into it all of the touch

points all the sense of occasion

and then of course yeah

the slow car fast

is a big part of it right like being able to like

use the power

and not be concerned about raw speed

yeah I would also say

I was just gonna say that

electric cars are part of this but the

the

proliferation of throwaway

cars just junky

non-styled

you know

simple slab design

cars has made

stylish choices like

old you know an old G wagon

or a Mercedes wagon from the 80s

you know anything with style

it really stands out it's like whoa look at that

like even if it's a car that's not

you know hard to

maintain our own like an LS400 or something

we show up in that it's like whoa

instead of just the

Subaru Forester

definitely

dang dude you're talking about Subaru Forester

it's kind of like the pinnacle of design though

oh yeah

pinnacles

that's it for questions

you got anything else you want to

get to trivia

my car is

at the shop right now

as we speak getting a cat installed

which I had teased last week so

you know I had

found a really nice little

short compact high flow cat

that I measured up

and you know assumed it would

fit but you know I did get confirmation

when we got here when I got to the shop

and he put it on the lift and he's like yeah

I can make that work so is this it for exhaust

once this is done maybe we'll see

dude

cross your fingers dude this is exciting

I hope so man that would be so nice

because otherwise

I mean there's

options but it's still an experiment

right and this

if this cat with this resonator

and this muffler work then I'm stoked

I still have a lot more

room to put a bigger muffler on there

like it's I think the one that

be like let's put on there's like a 17 inch

and I could easily fit like a 24 inch

it's a ton of space up and

you have room before ahead or behind the strut

rather yeah so like

in theory I could go bigger and make it even

quieter but we'll see what this sounds like

and then I'm less concerned about volume

as you guys know it's just that tinnyness the tone

yes rasp so

hopefully with combined with this cat we

have alleviated that and

sweet you will see

that's very exciting yeah that is

I'm excited to hear all about it

all right well on that note

it's trivia time

do be do be do be do be do be do

it's trivia time oh warren yes sir

very good and I want to give a

rack oh I want to give a recommendation to

people sir formula

one is starting up it is

and there's a lot of stuff to watch

to strive to survive is out

but

the new acquired episode I don't know if you

guys listened to the acquired I've never

heard what is that

you don't listen to a choir never heard of this

it's a great podcast it

basically dissects brands

and the history of brands

cool the business

of brands so

they did a five hour episode

on Rolex

five hours you know

Costco Apple Tesla

everything you can think of they've done these two guys

they do

they study

like deep like they really

study it and then they go in they talk

about it and they're like they're pretty fun to listen

to that it's not like dry

and they go from the beginning

to the end it's all about the business of the brand

like how they you know why how they make money

how they did this how they started how they

changed throughout the years how they

changed the way they do business how they

they're focused the new one is on

formula one oh sweet

and it's four and a half hours long

nice that is a and so

crazy the Rolex one I listen to

on a drive from

LA to Santa Cruz and I did

not finish the podcast on that

that's a perfect that's a perfect use

for awesome yeah it's

such a good podcast I'm surprised you guys

haven't heard of it like

that though there's quite a few of these business

you know dissection

podcast I mean acquired is very popular

one it has

probably close to five thousand reviews

you know it's like yeah it's it's a big

big one of those big podcast

as big as DWA is what you're saying

yeah exactly I used to listen

to business wars remember

and that was but it was like

it was in tandem so it's like

it's like Red Bull versus monster

but you get sort of like the the story

of each independently use and then

how they started kind of like how they

over kind of intersect and then

how they like compete with each other and

all that kind of stuff which is no I'm

super down with that I'll check it out

and the other thing I meant to do up front

and I forgot and I told myself to do it

is I wanted

to ask people

to rate and review the show

on whatever platform

you listen oh yeah it's we have a

Spotify we haven't

had reviews I feel like

we haven't received any reviews

in a long time you have not asked either

hey hey can you give

us a review

review like and subscribe

yeah all the five

stars and tell us why

yeah why we're so awesome

yeah man come on

yeah so we would really appreciate

it we do this thing for free

actually I meant to do some

I did some quick math I

wanted to do a whole rundown but

I did I I did

math on some quick math on

our Instagram posts

because we have like over 12,000

Instagram posts and if you

average of 20 minutes of posts which

is probably maybe even low

it is a hundred

and forty four days

constant posting

oh my god well luckily some of those posts are

like you know a minute and then

others are like half an hour

so we're out somewhere like a long

time you're like because it's editing

watching especially you're going deep

Lane like yeah and like scroll

like making the scroll like it's

like yeah yeah yeah the listener should

know that Lane incredible amount of effort

into those posts and the podcast

and everything yeah

damn dude 12,000

shit so

so now we can get to trivia all right that's

fine that's fine this is all important stuff

come see us in Amelia

I can throw that in there now that we're

derailed that's this

weekend and then a month

from now a little over a month from now we'll be

in Charlotte North Carolina at the Heritage

Invitational very much

looking forward to that and to be clear

just to reiterate

Radwood at the Amelia

is free to attend

so swing by hang out the concourse

across the street is not free but

you're there so if you want to check some

other stuff out obviously

go and do your thing

we'll go for it

shout out to Marcus Smith's

son

Graham Smith

who was

ripping in a little legends car

at Ice Race oh nice

yeah those are so funny to me my

old co-worker

and boss used to run one of those

and I thought they were so goofy at the time

I mean this is like it 2000

dude they were killing it there

like so fast

yeah they had rad motors and they're all

little 1000 cc like Kawasaki

or something yeah

alright back to trivia

you might have seen this story so I'll just take

the first person that can throw this

out wins type of thing

but

Tampa airport announces

a new dress code

what has been banned

flip-flops no flip-flops

close there's two other shoes

say that again open-toed shoes

nope

you're close

it is one is a shoe

and one is a

crocs clothing

crocs it is

oh nice

crocs are no longer allowed

and what's something that goes along

with crocs often times

accessories pins

no giblets think think clothing

shorts what which what cargo shorts

can you imagine

Tampa banning cargo shorts no one ever

flies again from that airport

crocs too dude

that goes with crocs

people who wear crocs will often wear this type

of clothing to a plane

Tommy Bahama shirts

yes pajamas

that's hard to define

pajamas now I will say

this is a little bit of like

you know social social media

account manager

having some fun with it

but it did say that

they have successfully banned crocs

which I don't know how you would do that

why why why though

I can't say it on the podcast

I am anti-crocs for sure

I can't tell you this on the podcast

it gets too spicy for the listeners

but it's

only certain types of people

that I'm gonna say low IQ

people wear crocs or children

wow all these dude

well all these are a complete idiot

for wearing crocs but

we've already talked about that

but yeah so children

wear crocs that's fine

but that's really all that should be wearing

crocs and then

pajamas like those you know

polyester fleece pajama pants

okay have been banned

from the Tampa airport okay good because

I like to wear my veori athleisure

sweats that's fine because you spent

$900 on it it's totally acceptable

they're not they're like $750

feel like $100 shirt

you're like cool I got some veori stuff

is that like gross

no no veori is fine you're in you're totally

we're in I got a veori

polo shirt it feels like I'm wearing a trash bag

but that's cool

that's yours alright next question

here

your favorite heartthrob

Sydney Sweeney

was recently spotted

a photo shoot

in what

cool car

her Bronco negative

her 356

I don't think this is her car it might be

but she's in the backseat driving around LA

taking pics

Radwood era

oh well he's in the backseat because I know

one of the Kardashians has a C4S993

but that won't work and I will say that

I don't even know if this car was equipped

with a backseat

oh wow

well you do know that R107s were

as were R129s as options

so it's not that

R107 is that

and it was an option

yes but you said that you did not know

that it was offered so it can't be the car

the car that she's in may or may not have had

a backseat she's in the back of an R107

oh gotcha

driving around like a

80s

glam queen

that's cool

did you guys see that ad with

what's her name

well she's the

pop singer

oh pop singer grace

grace under fire

the 90s sitcom

shit

grace

Jones mad max

are you talking about contemporary

amazing grace

yeah

they're in the Porsche 964

they're in the Porsche 964 have you seen that

ad for like a

I'm checking into my flight

Lane does not know

dude I just had such a brain fart dude

Lane does not know

who's the producer of lost it's his daughter

who's the director

oh Abrams

Gracie Abrams

we got there

Gracie Abrams she's a

pop singer

she's actually pretty good

for what it is

but yeah she's in this ad

and it's a 964 I think it's a

tar it's either like a

targa or maybe a cab

cruising down LA with another girl

I don't know who the other one is

and it's yeah

it's all over my feet dude

hell yeah dude I like

I like her feeds that right now

there we go dude I think it's like

it's some guy I'm friends with on

Instagram I think he

like art directed it oh okay

I did it that's cool we

forget his name but

we have a dude who was in the movie business

he still is but he worked with Sydney Sweeney

for a little bit and said she was delightful

so okay nice

well he's best friends with

she is best friends with

Rod Emery's daughter oh I didn't

know that either and Rod Emery

yeah like so she was

Bridesmaid and Rod

in her wedding hey the more you

know folks all comes back

but yeah R107

SL I don't know if it's her car but

it's always funny when those decisions

get made because it's a it was just a

US model red

red tan I was about to ask

yeah so big bumper big bumper just

the most yeah pretty standard

standard Emery is I think

Emery is building or built her a

356 how about

that and he's the one that helped her

like taught her to work

on cars and stuff or whatever so

supposedly nice

Rod Emery

Shots out dude all right well that's

podcast we'll see you guys next time

okay bye

you

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