The hosts dive into their recent adventures, including an epic ice race event at Yellowstone Club in Montana featuring unique cars like a trophy truck Bronco and a Porsche-based Myers-Manx. They share stories about meeting notable figures like Justin Roeser and discuss the exclusive, ski-lodge vibe of the event with its vintage fashion and VIP experiences. The conversation also touches on travel challenges, upcoming East Coast trips, and the camaraderie within the car community. Highlights include detailed race car insights, event logistics, and the blend of motorsport culture with social gatherings.
""There's no doubt. Correts are fast. What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate?""
The Toyota Corolla is a small, popular car that many people drive because it is reliable and easy to maintain. It's often talked about in car communities because some people like to make it faster or cooler.
The Toyota Corolla is a compact car known for its reliability and widespread popularity worldwide. It has been produced in many generations and is often referenced in car culture for its practical performance and tuning potential.
""Keiichi Tuchiya. Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?""
Keiichi Tsuchiya is a famous race car driver from Japan who helped make drifting, a style of driving where the car slides sideways, very popular. Many car fans look up to him.
Keiichi Tsuchiya is a Japanese professional race car driver known as the 'Drift King' for popularizing drifting as a motorsport. He has influenced car culture worldwide, especially in the tuning and drifting communities.
"from Bozeman, Montana in the ice race. Fat ice race."
Ice racing is when cars race on ice or snow, so they have to be careful because it's slippery. They use special tires to help them not slide around.
An ice race is a motorsport event where cars race on frozen surfaces such as lakes or snow-covered tracks, requiring special tires and driving techniques to maintain grip on slippery conditions.
"Yes, because the fastest car at ice race was the Bronco. Driven by... A Ford Bronco? Yeah, like the trophy truck."
The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV that can drive on rough and slippery surfaces like ice. It is strong and built to handle tough driving conditions.
The Ford Bronco is a rugged SUV known for off-road capabilities. The mention here refers to a Bronco used in ice racing, highlighting its versatility and toughness.
"What's this car that you posted for our questions post? It looks like a Myers-Manx-ish"
The Myers-Manx is a small, fun car made for driving on sand and dirt. It has a light body and is easy to drive off-road.
The Myers-Manx is a classic dune buggy originally designed in the 1960s, known for its lightweight fiberglass body and off-road capabilities. It typically features a rear-mounted Volkswagen engine and is popular for recreational off-roading.
"Underneath. Maybe it's even a Boxster or something. But yeah, it's..."
The Boxster is a small, sporty car made by Porsche that has two seats and a roof that can open. People like it because it’s fun to drive and feels very balanced on the road.
The Porsche Boxster is a mid-engine two-seater sports car known for its balanced handling and accessible performance. It often serves as an entry point into Porsche ownership and is praised for its driving dynamics and open-top experience.
"And this is at the Yellowstone Club, basically on their property."
The Yellowstone Club is a very fancy and private place where rich people have homes and can ski or play golf. It's not open to just anyone.
The Yellowstone Club is a private residential club, ski resort, and golf resort located in Montana. It is known for its exclusivity and luxury amenities, often attracting wealthy clientele.
A Porsche Ambassador is someone who talks about and shows off Porsche cars to help people learn about them and get excited.
A Porsche Ambassador is a person who represents and promotes the Porsche brand, often involved in events, marketing, or community engagement to enhance the brand's image and connection with fans.
"He's a Porsche Ambassador. He was driving his Dakar 9-11 and he's"
The 911 is a famous fast car made by Porsche that has its engine in the back. It’s well-known for being fun to drive and looking cool.
The Porsche 911 is an iconic rear-engine sports car renowned for its performance, engineering, and timeless design. It has a rich motorsport heritage and remains a benchmark in the sports car world.
"Was that Nissan Patrol actually working now? Dude, yeah, I was working Forsberg."
The Nissan Patrol is a big SUV that can drive on rough roads and off-road. It's strong and can handle tough places where normal cars can't go.
The Nissan Patrol is a large four-wheel drive SUV known for its off-road capabilities and durability. It has been produced in various generations since the 1950s and is popular in many regions for rugged terrain use.
"Dude, two-wheel drive, too. And also extremely wide tires,"
Two-wheel drive means only two of the car's wheels get power from the engine. This can make it harder to drive on slippery or rough roads.
Two-wheel drive (2WD) means that the vehicle's engine power is sent to only two wheels, either the front or rear wheels. This affects traction and performance, especially in off-road or slippery conditions.
"so the Nissan Patrol was at Radwood, NorCal. The Celica, Chris Forsberg or sorry, that's Chris Forsberg. Ryan Turric Celica was at Radwood"
Radwood is a fun car show where people bring cars from the 1980s and 1990s. It's a place to see old cool cars and meet other car fans.
Radwood is a car culture event celebrating vehicles from the 1980s and 1990s, focusing on nostalgia and the unique style of that era. It is popular among enthusiasts who appreciate vintage and classic cars from those decades.
"And then also the 944, the big lifted one from Texas, Radwood, Texas was there."
The Porsche 944 is a sporty car made by Porsche. It drives well because its engine is in the front and the power goes to the back wheels.
The Porsche 944 is a sports car produced by Porsche from 1982 to 1991. It is known for its balanced handling and front-engine, rear-wheel-drive layout, making it popular among enthusiasts.
""I'm like, does that have a clutch? No, it doesn't have a clutch.""
The clutch is a pedal you press to switch gears in a manual car. It helps the car change speed smoothly.
A clutch is a mechanical device in manual transmission vehicles that engages and disengages the engine from the transmission, allowing the driver to change gears.
""It doesn't have an e-brake and so you can't put it in gear.""
The e-brake is a hand or foot brake that helps keep the car still when parked or if the regular brakes don't work.
An e-brake, or emergency brake, is a secondary braking system used to keep a vehicle stationary, especially on inclines, or as a backup if the main brakes fail.
"...the notable cars Ferrari Enzo and the guys I think his name..."
The Ferrari Enzo is a very fast and special car made by Ferrari. It was built in small numbers and uses racing technology to go really fast.
The Ferrari Enzo is a limited-production supercar named after the company's founder, Enzo Ferrari. It features advanced technology derived from Formula 1 racing and is known for its high performance and exclusivity.
"to drive the ghost. So that's the
driver guy and then the other the owner"
The Rolls-Royce Ghost is a very fancy and comfortable car that many people buy to ride in style. It has a big engine and is made with very high-quality materials.
The Rolls-Royce Ghost is a luxury sedan known for its refined craftsmanship, powerful V12 engine, and smooth ride. It is positioned below the Phantom in Rolls-Royce's lineup but still offers exceptional comfort and prestige.
""there's like a hand beaten aluminum panels like""
These are metal parts of the car's body that are shaped by hand to fit perfectly. They're made from aluminum, which is light and strong.
Hand beaten aluminum panels are body panels shaped manually by skilled craftsmen using hammers and anvils, often found on custom or race cars to achieve precise shapes and lightweight construction.
""it was driving this pike pikes peak hill climb car""
This is a special kind of race car made to drive up a very steep and twisty mountain road called Pikes Peak. It's built to be very fast and handle well on that tough road.
A Pikes Peak hill climb car is a specialized vehicle built to compete in the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb, a famous motorsport event held on a challenging mountain course with steep elevation changes and tight corners.
""he's driving with a yoke steering wheel for one\n oh that's sketch and it is""
A yoke steering wheel is a steering control shaped like a small airplane handle instead of a round wheel. It can be harder to turn quickly or smoothly, especially when making sharp turns.
A yoke steering wheel is a non-circular steering control that resembles an aircraft yoke, often used in some modern cars to provide a futuristic look and potentially improve visibility of the dashboard. It can be challenging to use compared to a traditional round steering wheel, especially during tight maneuvers.
"I'm like you guys know I'm a 914 boy Tim Pappas had that 914 6GT"
The 914 is an older Porsche that has its engine in the middle of the car, making it good to drive. Some versions have a stronger engine and are more special.
The Porsche 914 is a mid-engine sports car produced in the 1970s, notable for its unique design and collaboration between Porsche and Volkswagen. The 914/6 variant, with a six-cylinder engine, is especially prized among enthusiasts.
"I'm like on the fence between like an RS4 or an RS2"
The RS4 is a fast and sporty Audi car that can drive well in all weather because it has power to all its wheels.
The Audi RS4 is a high-performance version of the A4 sedan or Avant, featuring a powerful engine, sporty suspension, and Audi’s Quattro all-wheel-drive system.
"yeah yeah I know it would how about 959 it's hard to argue with"
The 959 is a very fast and special Porsche from the 1980s that had lots of new technology for its time.
The Porsche 959 is a legendary 1980s supercar known for its advanced technology, all-wheel drive, and impressive performance, often regarded as one of the most innovative cars of its era.
"actually you know maybe a like a launch of Stratos would be pretty epic oh yeah they had that"
The Stratos is a very special old car that was great at racing on rough roads and looks very unique.
The Lancia Stratos is a legendary 1970s rally car famous for its distinctive wedge shape and dominant rally success, making it a highly collectible classic.
"like a charger challenger that's pretty good is it challenger"
The Charger is a big, strong car from America that can go really fast and looks tough. Many people like it because it feels powerful to drive.
The Dodge Charger is a full-size American muscle car known for its powerful V8 engines and aggressive styling. It blends modern technology with classic muscle car heritage, making it popular among performance enthusiasts.
"like a charger challenger that's pretty good is it challenger"
The Challenger is a sporty car that looks like old muscle cars but is made with modern parts. It’s known for being fast and fun to drive.
The Dodge Challenger is a retro-styled muscle car that offers large engines and a spacious interior, appealing to those who want classic muscle car looks with modern performance. It competes closely with the Charger but has a coupe body style.
"how about ripple effect of never seeing a Cybertruck oh that's an easy one"
The Tesla Cybertruck is a new kind of electric truck that looks very different from regular trucks. It is made to be very strong and uses electricity instead of gas to run.
The Tesla Cybertruck is an all-electric pickup truck introduced by Tesla, known for its futuristic design and durable exoskeleton made from stainless steel. It represents Tesla's entry into the electric truck market, aiming to combine utility with electric vehicle technology.
"I wouldn't want to say the model S because that pushed a lot of things forward in a great way"
The Tesla Model S is a fancy electric car that can go a long way on a single charge and is very fast. It helped make electric cars more popular and showed what they can do.
The Tesla Model S is a luxury all-electric sedan that helped popularize electric vehicles with its long range and high performance. It has been influential in pushing automotive technology forward, including advancements in battery technology and autonomous driving features.
The Infiniti G35 is a fancy car made by Nissan's luxury brand. It has a powerful V6 engine and is fun to drive.
The Infiniti G35 is a luxury sports sedan and coupe produced by Infiniti, Nissan's luxury division. It is known for its sporty handling and powered by the VQ series of V6 engines.
"what about I mean we could have a Corvette guys not really a Corvette"
The Corvette is a famous fast car from America that many people want because it’s quick and looks cool. It’s been around for a long time and keeps getting better.
The Chevrolet Corvette is an iconic American sports car celebrated for its high performance, sharp handling, and value compared to European exotics. It has evolved through multiple generations, with the latest mid-engine models pushing the envelope.
"say like I could say PT Cruiser or something like that like that's horrible righ..."
The PT Cruiser is a small car that looks old-fashioned on purpose, but it’s not very fast or fancy inside.
The Chrysler PT Cruiser is a retro-styled compact car produced in the early 2000s, known for its unique design but criticized for its performance and build quality.
"right like current Jeep owners can be pretty annoying but like they're so utilitarian and they've done you know they've made great cars in the past and simple I don't want to wipe out all jeeps"
Jeep makes cars that are good for driving on rough roads and outdoors. They are simple and strong vehicles that many people like for adventures.
Jeep is an American automotive brand known for its rugged, off-road capable SUVs and utility vehicles. It has a strong heritage of producing vehicles that emphasize utility and off-road performance.
"Ford F-150s you know the same thing yeah you're like they like built"
The Ford F-150 is a big truck that many people use for work or everyday driving. It's strong and can carry heavy loads or tow trailers.
The Ford F-150 is a full-size pickup truck known for its durability, versatility, and popularity in the United States. It is widely used for both work and personal purposes and has been one of the best-selling vehicles for decades.
"granola you know like an outback owner like that's a definitely thing that"
The Outback is a car that looks like a mix between a car and a small SUV, and it can drive well on rough roads. Many people use it for trips and outdoor activities.
The Subaru Outback is a popular crossover wagon known for its all-wheel drive, practicality, and rugged capability, making it a favorite among outdoor enthusiasts.
"you're like actually I don't mind just like that rear wheel drive you know NA etc etc"
Rear wheel drive means the car's engine sends power only to the back wheels. This can make the car fun to drive and handle well.
Rear wheel drive (RWD) is a drivetrain layout where the engine powers the rear wheels only. It is favored for its balanced handling and driving dynamics, especially in sports cars.
Term
NA
"just like that rear wheel drive you know NA etc etc"
NA means the engine gets air naturally, without extra parts pushing air in. This makes the engine simpler and sometimes easier to fix.
NA stands for naturally aspirated, meaning the engine breathes air without forced induction like a turbocharger or supercharger. NA engines often have linear power delivery and are appreciated for their simplicity.
"I had zero interest in like Rolls Royces and like the very high-end like the ultimate luxury thing like I just had no"
Rolls Royce is a famous car brand that makes very fancy and expensive cars. People think of them as the best in luxury and comfort.
Rolls Royce is a British luxury automobile maker known for producing some of the most prestigious and high-end cars in the world, often associated with ultimate luxury and craftsmanship.
"it was only about the BMW the Audi A8 the S600 it's like"
The A8 is a big, fancy Audi car that is very comfortable and has lots of modern features.
The Audi A8 is a flagship luxury sedan offering advanced technology, a refined interior, and smooth performance, competing with other top luxury sedans.
"seven years from now so is that a GTI is that a I don't know what's"
The Golf is a small car that lots of people like because it’s easy to drive and works well for everyday use.
The Volkswagen Golf is a compact hatchback known worldwide for its practicality, quality, and sporty GTI variants. It’s a versatile car suitable for many drivers.
"I don't is it a golf electric like art has like e-golf I mean right or does he not get"
The e-Golf is a small electric car made by Volkswagen that looks like a regular Golf but runs on electricity instead of gas.
The Volkswagen e-Golf is an all-electric version of the popular Golf hatchback, offering zero emissions and familiar styling with electric powertrain technology.
"...something but I'm not just buying a new you know M3 a new Volvo turbo wagon right Lane"
The M3 is a special version of a BMW car that’s made to be very fast and fun to drive. It’s like a regular car but much sportier.
The BMW M3 is a high-performance version of the 3 Series sedan or coupe, known for its sporty handling, powerful engines, and driver-focused experience. It’s a benchmark in the sports sedan segment.
"inclined to pick like a you know Toyota Tacoma or something two wheel drive really simple but t..."
The Tacoma is a smaller truck made by Toyota that many people trust because it lasts a long time and can go off-road well.
The Toyota Tacoma is a midsize pickup truck known for its durability, off-road capability, and strong resale value. It’s a popular choice for those needing a reliable truck for work or adventure.
"and they keep just showing this these stupid R1s dude and I'm like I was talking to the photograp..."
The R1S is a new electric SUV that can go off-road and has lots of modern technology. It’s like a big, fancy electric car for adventures.
The Rivian R1S is an all-electric luxury SUV designed for off-road capability and modern tech features. As a newcomer in the EV market, it represents a shift towards electric adventure vehicles.
"I do really like the look of the Toyota Crown Signia those are cool which"
The Crown is a fancy Toyota car mostly sold in Japan that is very comfortable and has nice features.
The Toyota Crown is a luxury sedan primarily sold in Japan, known for its comfort, advanced features, and smooth ride. It has a long heritage as Toyota’s premium offering.
"...they're focused the new one is on
formula one oh sweet
and it's four and a half hours long..."
Formula One is a type of car race where the fastest and most advanced race cars compete all around the world. It's like the top level of car racing with very skilled drivers.
Formula One is the highest class of international single-seater auto racing sanctioned by the FIA. It features the fastest regulated road-course racing cars and is known for its advanced technology, global races, and elite drivers.
"her Bronco negative her 356 I don't think this is her car it might be"
The 356 is an old Porsche car that was one of the first they made, and people like it a lot because it looks classic and is special.
The Porsche 356 is Porsche’s first production sports car, produced from the late 1940s to mid-1960s, and is highly collectible due to its classic design and historical significance.
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Egocidal vehiculum.
There's no doubt. Correts are fast.
What about the people that put their fingers over the license plate?
Keiichi Tuchiya.
Those cars have such a cute little face, you know?
It's like a little salamander or something, you know?
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My name is Warren.
I'm Lane.
I got two shady cats over here, bandit and barrel,
acting real shady.
Always, dude.
Yeah, they're not.
They're up to no good, I think I can tell right now.
Did you guys see the Lunar Eclipse last night?
I'd never heard of it.
I should say this morning.
No.
Lunar Eclipse.
Lunar.
The moon is out.
It was a full moon eclipse, and I knew it was happening at 3.30 in the morning,
and for some reason I woke up.
Maybe someone like made a noise.
I woke up at 3.30.
Did you?
Yeah.
That was your sign, Lane.
It was 3.33 in the morning on 3.3.
Dude, I woke up at 3.30, and I'm like, why am I up, dude?
And I was kind of up for half an hour.
Dude, that was your time.
So I went out there and looked at it.
I got up, looked at it, went uh-huh.
Also, saw a shooting star.
I don't want to brag, but that's the kind of stuff that's happening.
Dude, I didn't see any of that, and I was up.
Lane, you have all people.
You're a riser.
I know, but I didn't know it was happening.
You didn't tell me when we hung out yesterday.
That's true.
I didn't really know about it until Sara mentioned it,
and it was like, and it was very cool.
It was very rusty reddish.
You're supposed to tell me these things.
I know.
You're the weather guy in our friendship group.
And now I feel bad.
We should have eclipse talk anytime there's an eclipse.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah.
Totally.
Any natural phenomenon should happen.
It was pretty sweet.
I was in my boxers with a blanket on my deck.
That's sick, dude.
That's a good set.
That's fire.
Of course, I couldn't go back to bed for two hours,
so that was pretty fun.
You might relate to this, and Lane,
maybe just staying up
and trying to acclimatize
to the East Coast time.
Oh.
We're about to be in getting up at 6 a.m.
East Coast time,
which is so brutal for us
on these short weekend trips
to go into the Amelia Island concor.
So that was on my mind,
and then I said, nah,
not going to do that.
Bed sounds pretty good.
Yeah.
You don't want to do that to yourself, dude.
No, no.
Is that your move?
The bummer is there's not a single,
Art and I have had
sometimes where they'll be like a day
where we don't have to be there
until 10 or 11 or something at work.
And so we have a little time
to get up slow, maybe grab breakfast
and go, but I think this trip
it's going to be like nonstop.
Really?
Yeah, even our flight out.
I think Art's got to be at the airport
at 6 or 7.
In the morning?
You should be up cooking breakfast.
Why didn't you get a later flight?
The flights from Jacksonville
to the Bay Area
or even California are terrible.
They're all...
You're either going to get...
I love...
Okay, so technical difficulties there, folks.
Art, do you see...
Art, do you have a light on?
I'm steady.
I have a steady recording light on now, yeah.
If you didn't hear Art
in that first part of the show,
if we chose to post that,
it's because he wasn't recording.
Hey, so I just...
I paused that.
I didn't hit stop all the way and start a new file.
I just paused it and then started again.
Is that going to be fine?
No.
Yeah, that's fine.
I can figure it out.
Oh man, sorry, Lane.
All right, so we were talking...
We were talking about...
Going to the east coast
and now you just got back
from Bozeman, Montana
in the ice race.
Fat ice race.
I did.
Mantae? Something to do with it?
Maybe a mantae?
What about Thai food?
Maybe.
Yeah, so you were talking about
going to a tea house, but...
Oh, I was just saying...
I was saying a late flight is nice
because you can kind of
have a relaxing morning
and I was able to
hang out.
We walked around downtown Bozeman
which was very nice.
Very nice old buildings.
Went to a tea house, had tea.
There you go.
Walked to go have lunch.
Randomly met up with Justin Roeser
on the street.
And then had him go
to lunch with us.
Nice, sweet.
So that was fun.
Is he coming to Amelia?
I know his friend is.
So the buddy that was there...
I don't think he's going.
Harper Porsche will be there.
With their June bug,
they have a 964.
It's like metallic.
It's like chrome.
And it was at ice race.
And they're bringing it dirty.
I was just emailing with him
and he said he's bringing it
straight from there.
Uncleaned and that it won
the ice race.
It won the division.
Is there divisions?
Yes, because the fastest car
at ice race was the Bronco.
Driven by...
I forget who drove it.
A Ford Bronco?
Yeah, like the trophy truck.
Gnarly frame.
Two frame.
That's interesting.
Because I feel like that's something
that I don't think I even saw
a single image of that.
I posted one photo of it.
I missed it.
Pretty early on.
It was like the last big frame.
One of my posts.
And it was pretty small in the frame.
But yeah, that thing was
ripping.
It was in the four-wheel drive class.
It was just like...
The guy was just...
V8, he was just stomping on it
and tossing it at a turn.
It's probably going as fast as he would
in any other condition.
What's this car that you posted
for our questions post?
It looks like a Myers-Manx-ish
or a Porsche.
So that's a Myers-Manx.
It's a Myers-Manx
slash
Tuthill
based on a
Porsche
997, maybe?
Something like that?
I think so.
I forget which Porsche is underneath it.
Something like that.
Underneath.
Maybe it's even a Boxster or something.
But yeah, it's...
I think it's rear-engine.
So it's like 997 or something.
But yeah, it's pretty wild, dude.
That's the one that was at...
It was at the quail this year.
Do you remember it?
I do.
The picture of it, it looks like it maybe got
some changes, tweaks, and then
it didn't recognize it.
The color change, maybe.
And I believe Richard Tuthill
was driving it.
He's kind of a madman.
Yeah, it was super cool.
That's awesome.
Speaking of Richard Tuthill,
there's that video of him ripping around
with the 911K.
Yeah, with Chris Harris just
scaring the shit out of him
in the passenger seat.
So rad, dude.
Yeah, he's going crazy.
Yeah.
So that sounded like a really fun event.
I mean, you guys, you had a big crew
of at least a lot of familiar faces.
And then it sounded fun.
Super rad.
Dude, it was super fun.
Yeah, I wish you guys would have been there.
No, I think next year I'm going to go.
My buddy works at Yellowstone Club.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Who works? Do I know this person?
My buddy Serb.
He's a food and beverage director.
I know Serb.
Yeah, he's now full-time there.
So he was doing seasonal stuff.
And now he's all in and moving to Montana.
Right.
It's not exactly a place you can just show up
and hang.
But I think for something like this,
there's probably an angle.
So yeah, let's definitely get on the radar
for next year.
No, totally.
And I think it's same time next year.
So I think they're going to try and make
it a regular thing.
And this is going to be the location now.
Like they did in Aspen two years ago.
Kind of didn't work out for that location
just because Aspen wasn't as accommodating.
And it was in the town of Aspen.
And Aspen is not cheap,
but Aspen is like next level
for accommodations and getting in
and out of all that.
And this is at the Yellowstone Club,
basically on their property.
And the owners of the Yellowstone Club
also own.
They're the ones that bought Willow Springs.
Oh, okay.
And all that.
So they are just like all in on this stuff.
And they're friends with Ferdy
and Ferdy Porsche who runs this.
And then our good friend,
I want to give a shout out to Chris Harrell,
who was like basically office manager
for this whole event.
Yeah, Chris.
That's such a small world stuff.
Yeah, I love that kind of thing
where you're like, oh yeah.
How is Cheyenne involved?
I haven't talked to him in a while.
It was him and Chris Harrell.
Okay, they're handling operations.
Yeah, basically.
Yeah, I guess it would be operations
because they were handling, I believe,
like kind of like tickets,
insurance,
day of kind of like
all that kind of touch points and stuff.
Right.
Yeah, so awesome, man.
But it was, yeah, it was,
I mean, I don't know how deep we want to go,
but it was
it was cool, dude.
It was like, it's definitely one of those things,
I think also like next year
is bound to be a little different
because I think this is like,
this was like,
I think there was around 2,500 people.
Oh, that's precisely.
And I would say most of those people
were like influencers
slash like, you know,
notable people in the car world.
Industry types.
Industry type.
So it was there, I mean,
if it's on that property,
I mean, I know that's a very exclusive location.
Yeah.
Is it open to the public or do you have to have
a ticket to spectate as well?
I haven't even looked.
You have to have it.
Yeah, tickets were,
I think 350 bucks or something
or 400 bucks or something like that to go.
And you have to bus in
to the property.
Six miles in or something like that.
Oh, wow.
And it's like deep into this property basically.
And then they had a VIP lounge area.
Those tickets are $3,500 each.
And it was kind of,
everyone was dressed up like,
a lot of people were dressed up in like
70s,
like style 80s fur coats.
Like their moms fur coats and stuff.
It was pretty wild, dude.
Or like 90s, 80s ski suits.
Yeah.
I felt very ski, like ski lodge from the
80s.
It looked like a hot tub time machine.
Oh, I see.
What's his face there?
I'm just picturing
like your Santa, like Samarit's
sort of crowd, right?
It's like that. Have you guys heard of Don
Tolover? No.
The rapper, he was there.
He's a Porsche Ambassador.
He was driving his Dakar 9-11
and he's
he's a
P. Diddy Long was training him.
Oh, Pilo.
Yeah, Pilo. So Pilo is there.
Talk to Pilo for a minute. Nice.
Was that Nissan Patrol actually working now?
Dude, yeah, I was working
Forsberg. Yeah.
That's a tough car for that, though.
Dude, two-wheel drive, too.
And also extremely wide tires,
which I imagine for ice is not ideal.
You know, it was
cool. Like there was like
so the Nissan Patrol was
at Radwood, NorCal.
The Celica, Chris Forsberg
or sorry, that's Chris Forsberg.
Ryan Turric Celica was at Radwood
Yep.
Texas
and that was there and
he was ripping it the second day.
Oh, good. Like I think
he won, might have won his class or something.
I mean, he was like
he definitely said, you know, when he went out
I think he was the maybe the first
car out or one of the first cars
the second day. First day was
like felt a little like cars
were it was actually also really
icy and cars were kind of sliding around
not really getting the groove of things.
The second day, like when
Turric went out, he
kind of set a precedence and people
you're like, oh shit, dude.
He was around that course, dude.
Yeah. And then also the
944, the big lifted one
from Texas, Radwood, Texas
was there.
So yeah, like there was some Radwood
presence there. Pretty
cool to see. That's great.
Yeah, I got to drive that.
The, I forget what he's calling
it. I think he's calling the GT4
11. When we
offloaded it at Amelia
and at the time
Celica. Yeah, the Celica. So if you look
at Ryan Turc's account, you'll see it. But the funny
thing about that was that when it
got there, the
guy, it was just on a it was it was the
only car on the truck
the guy that was offloading. It's like, hey,
just want to let you know it doesn't have any brakes.
I'm like, does that have a clutch? No, it doesn't have a clutch.
It doesn't have an e-brake
and so you can't put it in gear.
You can't
be a new you can't do it. Basically, you're just kind
of like floating around. So there
Warren took a video. I was steering it
and there was probably like 10 guys
around the car and it's
spotting it. Yeah, just basically pushing
and pulling and like as we needed to slow
down, you know, like it's just to try to
control it because we literally had to get it across
the entire field where we needed to
stage it.
It's a funny little video. I think you even like
sped it up. It's like kind of cartoony, right?
Yeah, you put that clown
like that.
Yeah, and it also
like yeah, it was at the time it was
definitely obviously not complete. So
it had a lot of
like some wires and loose things everywhere.
So I mean, they finally put it together.
It's been a year actually. So
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it seemed like it was going pretty good.
Yeah, but that there was some
some of the like talking about some of
the notable cars
Ferrari Enzo
and
the guys I think his name
is share the Enzo on Instagram
no comment
to drive the ghost. So that's the
driver guy and then the other the owner
is share the Enzo maybe or something
like that or no maybe they just call
the car share the Enzo
catcher or
but the whole story is like I guess
he went and was looking
at a Ferrari when he was a kid and basically
the owner told him to get away from the car
and he vowed
from then on that he would get a Ferrari
and share it with everyone. So
the cool thing was like everywhere that car
was he just leaves the door open and lets people
get in and out of it and so nice.
I'd like to drive the car
if he's interested in that. I know right
art that black over
red Enzo that's being sold
abroad arrow this weekend that we'll see in person
soon. What was the estimate again
like 17 or something
like the delivery
super rare black Enzo
and 17
million crazy
man oh man
asset that's insane so this guy
actually he put it kind of into the wall
dude I had that one picture
that one picture is it
I didn't notice that to the wall dude yeah
was that on your own on
DWA on it's on both I shared
it
yeah and the
driver guy he commented I hope
you got a picture of it and I told him
it was a couple pictures back
there was a Ferrari
250 GT
in yellow which is so
dope dude short wheelbase and
Chris Harris was driving that thing around
he was getting all sideways
yeah that was super cool
Hucker moments dude
yeah so hard to
drive a car in those conditions and then
if like anything touches that particular
car it's going to just crumple immediately
there's like a hand beaten aluminum
panels like
yeah
it was driving this pike pikes peak hill
climb car
there was a bunch of that stuff like bbi had a
993 out there but there was
like that race car with the big the face
on it like current like gtp
yeah whatever Le Mans car
Porsche that thing
was so slow out there
could not get grip yeah and
it looks so slow if you go to
Porsche's account I like
everyone go look at it
they have in car footage of a lap
it looks
insane dude like
it looks like it looks
so scary you're like how
did this guy not stuff it like a million
times like I mean
he's driving with a yoke steering wheel for one
oh that's sketch and it is
just like he's he's having to go
hand over fist
with a yoke steering wheel
and
he's just constantly moving that thing back
and forth and the car just has no
traction at all and what are those
I mean what those cars have like 800 horsepower
or something like I don't know
or more and like how would you
the car can even be set up for that it's just
hold on for dear life and
it was just like and it's like a snowplow
the front ends just like picking up all this
stuff and yeah it was
it was pretty crazy
it's entertaining for you guys
for sure yeah
Zwart almost hit that car at one point
because it spun in front of
like from my vantage point it looks
like they it looked like they touched
I actually asked
later I'm like did you guys hit and he's like
no it looked closer than it was
and he's like I knew he was there
kind of thing well we have
we have some pictures from
or I'm sorry we have a few questions
I think from the ice
race if you want to jump into questions
and then if you come up with some more
ice race and it anecdotes
Lane oh I will tell
a funny little
a little story because
I told Warren as I hung
out Warren yesterday
as we were leaving
each other with our boy Ricky
with our boy Rick did
right and Ryan yeah
yeah velocity
I told Warren I said
oh Warren I pulled the most
lane thing yesterday
I mean at I said I said I pulled the
most lane thing and I guess you went
in vans
oh wow I was going to get something
else but yeah and I and I said
yeah basic you just I were like
gosh I basically
I were I have like
new balances version of vans yeah
yeah or those dude yeah because those are a little
more rugged you know and so good
I had to if you look
at some of these pictures
I don't know there's like some of them
you'll look and there's like a tent in the background
I was like behind that tent and these
like woods and there's like
a photo snow and I was back
there the first day for
three hours taking photos
wow and I had to I had
to get back there and the only
way back there is just a hiking in the
snow and
at one point I was like
I think I might lose a toe dude
dude that is awful yeah I'm looking
at just looking at the picture that you posted
right now I mean it's easily
I mean eight inches of snow there
where everybody's standing around
Lane that's kind of like a rise and grind situation
you know what I mean
like you're out there getting content
for the for the peeps like you're with the
influencers for the boys
I know I have to say though real quick
it's so cool
to walk around in proper snow boots
in the snow because it's like it's like
it's like those spike tires dude it's like
because you claw into it and you have so
much traction might stay versus I
dude I was like Hoosiers
dude I was like Magnus Walker in Florida
that one thing or whatever you know
yeah
I so that
that evening I went
bought some north face boots
and I was all good well done nice
but yeah
yeah but yeah we can
move into questions alright yeah first one here
is ice race related
Ben Rogitz asking what would be your
dream ice race car
so
I guess all of us can answer but mine
I'm like you guys know I'm a
914 boy
Tim Pappas had that 914 6GT
out there it's like million plus
dollar car it was
he was so fast in it he made
the finals I think he won his class or whatever
that car was
it looks so good out there he was like getting
so sideways and
it just looks so fun
it looked like a really fun car out there
and easy to control where some of the cars
just looked intimidating and
and kind of annoying to drive like
I forget I think I was next to
Farrah and he
he asked Harris he's like how was it
out there after he drove the singer and he's like miserable
he's like it sucks
you know yeah so yeah
but the 914 looked really fun I would
I think the 914 would be perfect 914
6GT I like that
yeah so you're going you're going to go drive
just more fun yeah yeah
I think so yeah I could see that
Art do you have one
yeah I'm thinking well
I think it's you want to go with familiarity
I think that's Lane is going that route as well
and you know like Ryan's car
is pretty dialed and I'm very familiar
with that chassis I know I
can drive that well but also at the same time
I kind of which car
well the GT411
but I feel like
I would want to go
I'm like on the fence between
like an RS4
or an RS2
and
but that feels too mundane
at the same time right especially if you
how about a short wheelbase or something
yeah I mean I chose that last week for
the rally
so I was trying to
yeah yeah I know it would
how about 959
it's hard to argue with
that is very hard to argue with
yeah I'm like scanning
I definitely wouldn't want to go in like
actually you know maybe a like a
launch of Stratos would be pretty epic
oh yeah they had that
new they had that new one you know
the new what are the Kamara's or whatever
oh yeah those are 37s yeah
oh 37 sorry
but they had one of the
Kamara's there and that thing was
pretty sick out there they're very cool
he stuffed it in the wall
oh really those are crazy powerful and fast
but yeah I might go Stratos dude
I think that would be pretty epic super short
wheelbase and you know you got that rear engine
weight very agile
that's so it looks so good
out there too
that's a really good answer
I was thinking of going with something ultra
modern and purpose built like
do you remember when Sebastian Loeb
broke the Pike's Peak record and they built
that special Peugeot for him it was like
oh right 208 like
crazy wings and arrow and stuff
like that would be kind of cool because it is
a rally car and it's
purpose built and it's sort of like
an iconic piece of history
but then I was going
with like what you guys are saying and like
an early like synchro
like a golf rally
oh so good would be fun
it would be really fun with like the right
livery and just
that would be pretty safe too like front wheel
or all they're all wheel drive
all wheel drive so it's basically
it's basically quattro synchro
and I think that's
that would be cool it's not quite
as sexy as arts answer but I think it would work
that would look great dude that's pretty
cool though that would look really good and what color
I kind of like that
blueish it's like a
like a dark blue they made
for that car but if it's a race
version maybe we can come up with some good livery
I was thinking
a Subaru 22B would be really good
oh yeah for sure yeah
that might be the best use of a Subaru
yeah that's so
mint says you can erase the car
from history all the generations
of that model the culture surrounding it
and any ripple effects are just gone
what do you choose
oh Lamborghini
that's just
a model
oh he said model or
make
he says you can erase a car all the generations
of that model the culture surrounding
it so I guess it is the model
not a not a company
I know where Lane's going
I mean I don't want to
say it because I like him
okay
I know where this is going
um is it
is it
potentially
like
a charger challenger
that's pretty good is it challenger
a two door
from all through history
but the old ones are kind of cool
old ones are kind of cool
that's what gets me because I was
thinking the same thing
but you're also thinking of culture right
and so like what's associated with that
and sort of like
people and
that's the ripple effect right so
how about ripple effect
of never seeing a
Cybertruck
oh that's an easy one
for sure
I wouldn't want to say the model
S because that pushed
a lot of things forward in a great way
and I don't think Tesla needs to be
wiped from the base of the earth but
man that car
yes is no good
yeah and then everything that's
that's pretty easy though because it's only one
model and it's only like been one generation
it's like brand new yeah
and Mustang I mean you know
say what you want about Mustang and that culture
but they've also made some pretty sweet
cars and have like always pushed performance
and awesome race cars too
they've always been on the forefront of like
road racing
the history is pretty good
yeah exactly
I wouldn't want to do that
I'm thinking
I don't necessarily want to erase the Z
but how about the G35
and its derivatives
I was thinking the same
along those lines as well
it's just the worst
deleting a VQ
but I think if you erase that you have to go all Z's
it would be 240 or it would be everything
I know but I'm going G35
yes
G35
37 both sedans and coupes
all of them
I was in San Jose this weekend and
this guy was in the turn line ahead of us
and he made a U-turn
but of course he's in a G35
coupe and
all drifted out and he just like
almost lost it and T-boned us
and then tanks slapped back around
and carried on
it's like holy crap dude
was it straight pipe too like as they
sounded like absolute garbage
it was that like pearl white
but it was all dirty and like exhaust all over
and stuff and so gross
was he vaping when he was doing that
out of his nose dude he had the thing in his nose
oh my god dude
what about
I mean we could have a Corvette guys
not really a Corvette
they have a good history
I think there's a similar overlap with the Mustang culture
like I mean in terms of there's also a problem
it's even more of a motorsport
it's underdog and motorsports so good dude
yeah the mall
there's excellent
across the board really
yeah and even the modern
motorsport story of Corvette's
rad right yeah absolutely
it's hard to like really
say like I could say
PT Cruiser or something like that
like that's horrible right like that's
an easy one right that feels too easy
that is too easy
cheese culture and everything associated
yeah but that's like
that's like that's
whatever doesn't I'm trying to think of
more of a poser car that's just
not yeah it's
trying to be
a great performance thing like
yeah because even if you go
SUV or truck like I'm like Jeep
right like current Jeep owners
can be pretty annoying but like they're so
utilitarian and they've done
you know they've made great cars
in the past and
simple I don't want to wipe out all jeeps
yeah
Ford F-150s
you know the same thing
yeah you're like they like built
ever yeah
built America do we want to
do we want to get rid of ultimas or
that's pretty easy
actually because they has there ever been an
ultima you desired no but they also
don't have like a real culture
to them they're just a car that
interesting really bad driver
like no one's wearing ultimate t-shirts
and like going to meets with
ultimas that I know dude but they do
they do ding your car in a park
in parking lots and they do drive very
aggressively I just think they would get
whatever other car was available
they would buy they would buy something
they would buy a centra or the
alternative yeah or whatever
Hyundai or Kia or whatever
yeah
all right tough man
those are some answers
Subaru too like
that's a culture
there's a there's a vape culture there
which model though I mean
that's the thing is I can't
I can't hit on WRX
there's people though that like just
despise the type of owner
a Subaru person is that's more of the
granola you know
like an outback owner
like that's a definitely thing that
people are polarized
against yeah maybe
not an argument
yeah love is
ditto's dad says
as you've gotten older what car did you
dislike in your youth that you now
appreciate
hmm
playing Corbett's
yeah
yeah dude
hmm I know
I have an answer I do too
but I can't think of it
I used to I mean I know
it's not like a car specific but I
used to
I used to like
only
want like the performance
model of everything and I'd be like
oh like
the target versions
lame because it's like a hundred pounds heavier
because it's slower or you know whatever
sure I get that right right like you want
the turbo like you're like now I was like
bench you I would bench race everything
yeah yeah
and you'd be like oh that car's stupid it's
like so slow
and everything was about like
zero to sixty times and stuff like that
where now
it it really
is about like sense of occasion
and stuff like that so like I could and
and I think that's just part of like
that's also part of like where cars
have gone with like electric and all
that kind of stuff too so and wouldn't you
also along with being older too wouldn't you
also say that you might
appreciate simplicity a little
more and just like overall
for maintenance and
you know parts and all this
stuff like right the most crazy model
or you know the most high performance model
is going to be typically
turbo and all-wheel drive or whatever it
is like you're like actually I don't mind
just like that rear wheel drive
you know NA etc etc
well I think well
oddly enough I'm almost I'm
going the opposite direction where like when I was younger
I had zero interest in like
Rolls Royces and like the very
high-end like the ultimate luxury
thing like I just had no
it had no place in my mind wasn't even occupying
space for you exactly and then
now it's like oh dude I can see
like how like you appreciate all of the detail
and like they're extremely well
made beautiful things right and like
they're very very very expensive and
they're you know obviously that makes them
unattainable to a very large group of people
including myself so to a certain extent
still not relevant but I can appreciate
that and I can like you know I can
be down with name your
big-ass like luxury coupe right
I get that so that
would probably be it and that kind of
goes across the board I remember being a
kid thinking like like even actually
you know I had a W126
or a C126 you know the 500
SEC and like thinking like who
would want this gigantic car that's
just two doors like that and
I didn't really that didn't make sense
to me but like now I can appreciate
that and I'm even down with it
I think you got some waft in you
since my answer
is sort of related but
when I was younger you know
high school and such you know my good
buddy Tom is definitely into
the luxury side of things like Cadillac
and you know his parents had a 750
I L and
you know SL's and stuff like that and
we we would just like laugh
at the Lexus
trying to compete with a 7
series or an S class was like
I wouldn't even consider you
know looking at it it's like so boring
and simple and like
not exciting it's not sporty
it doesn't accelerate great
you know it's just not a
interesting car and now
if I'm going to buy one
you know a vintage
version of these cars so from the 90s
early 2000s
I'm way more interested
in a really clean LS 400
sounds great that sounds awesome
I think I would
say the same thing
and so that's probably where I've changed the most
I would never have considered Lexus
back in like you know reading
Car and Driver in 1996 and being like
what the fuck is this thing get out of here
it was only about the BMW
the Audi A8
the S600 it's like
let's see what these guys are doing over here
and they were way fancier they had all these
trick you know options and
power you know
adjustability and
big stereos and stuff and then
Lexus is just over there kind of like
the tortoise and the hare it's just tortoising
its way along and
it's sort of like come out as a
pretty sweet classic so
well simple but well executed right
and that's like understood
and most importantly functional
and it's in reliable
exactly that's like the biggest
so that's how I've changed a lot
and you know when you're in a position to buy
and maintain these things like
yeah an S600 sounds great but then
we all know like it's just a
freaking just an absolute
anchor
when it comes to maintenance
I did as a
kid high schooler I did absolutely
just spies second gen Cameras
and as Joss Loomans
pointed out I do like
them now I like the early ones
second gen
so a split bumper
like 70 through
70 through 74
or whatever
like 70
like split bumper cars and then
the early ones metal bumper yeah
absolutely I mean especially when they're
prepped and look you know the right wheels
and right height and yeah they can
look like really they can look really cool
and like they can look like
very motor sports and very
like almost like
you'd want to tackle a mountain road
and one yeah I like it
they I mean they could look like
well I mean like with enough money
I mean you can yeah
I think you get up on it for sure
yeah SV expert
says
what do you think will be your kids first car
and will you buy it for them
or make them buy it I say
I want to buy my kids
a non running car
at like 14
and they have to fix it
I'm sorry they have to fix it up that way if they crash it
from being dumb it's their hard work
and sweat gone
that's cool dude
the time and it depends
on the car that's cool they'd have to be
interested in like mechanics and wanting
to actually get greasy and
figure out how it all works otherwise you're just
doing that and forcing them but
I guess in a perfect world they're into that stuff
you know Andrew's really
into cars he has opinions
about cars he's I'm sure
very excited to like get to that point
I always say though first car if you can
swing it like is should be
a hot hatch that's where I'm at so
comes down to budget that's gonna be
in
seven years from now so
is that a GTI is that a
I don't know what's
what else is out there would you go yeah like what
vintage though well I think it comes down to budget so
I don't is it a golf
electric like art has like e-golf
I mean right or does he not get
a car right away because e-bikes are
everywhere and he doesn't get a car till he's
18 19 right like we're talking
about 10 years from now I mean you want the
least safe option you buy him an e-bike
that's true
but damn every kid around here like
now you don't have to ever no insurance
no registration no gas
they're talking about like really
cracking down I know you think that'll happen
I think so
I mean it's it's get I mean there's been quite a
few getting kind of there's fatalities in
town now and so dangerous yeah so they
really my answer is a $5,000
hot hot hatch in
10 years from now
whatever that is whatever that is and you know
within reason like maybe it's a little nicer and a little
more expensive but
yeah and it doesn't have to be a GTI per
say
it could be
just a golf that you
put a couple bits and bobs on
and how's your father
could be a Honda Veloster
or the yeah yeah it could
be a Honda Veloster it could be a Honda fit
it could be you know
I know you love it I love if it could be a
Kia Soul yeah I said it
it's got some soul in there I well I
think well I think actually
Kia Souls have been discontinued so
but in 10 years he's still
he's not going to buy a new bro
yeah I
I don't know I have
a feeling like sort of like a CX
five ish kind of thing would work well
it's exporting up it's safe
most importantly
and you know there's room for the
friends and all that jazz
but I think it's really going to be based
around kind of what
you know it's going to be a combination we'll work with her
maybe we'll do we'll set some
some goals you know around academics
or whatever and then we can kind of see
like alright if you do well we'll get
we'll throw in a certain amount of dough
ideally the ideal scenario in my
mind would be like if she has
like you know a summer job or something and then
she saves that up and then we'll kind
of match whatever she saves up so like
let's say she saves four grand five grand whatever it is
yeah and then we'll match it
that way she has some skin in the game but
I would also because of the
achievement and that she's like committed to this
I would also want to reward her by having her
choose what she likes and I at this
point I mean she likes cars but she doesn't
know what she's really into so
but yeah I'm right we're on the same board
on the same boat though yeah seven seven
eight years away so it's kind of
sooner than we
I was going to say
I would definitely
make him purchase it
whether it's matched you know or
or something but I'm not just buying a
new you know M3
a new Volvo turbo wagon right Lane
well my daughter is 16
I know she's there and a half
and she's got her permit nice
she's got a Polestar too right
and she's gonna get
she'll probably get I mean I think she'll
just float around between our cars really
like between the Polestar
and the Kia because
neither of us like
I don't really need it like
I only need it really when I go to the
airport it's when I really need it
and even then
you don't she'll probably she'll probably just use
it for the most part
use the Polestar that will be kind of her
car
as for like
and it'll still be like
obviously it's under your name I mean
most parents most kids cars are under
the pair of things anyways
she
she also like does so much school
work like I don't want I we don't want
her to have a job or anything so that's where
you get into that whole like being able
like her buying the car it's like she
can't even have a job to make money you
know it's like she she studies
like four hours
every day after school it's like there's
no time for a job
about like a summer job like art was saying
she could she could
have a summer job and she she does
actually she's done she does
babysits and she makes
she made money last summer nice
like that but but
also with that it's like
it's not like she's can't she makes
like you know two thousand
bucks or something twenty five hundred
bucks it's like you want to you
want her to be able to buy clothes
and or whatever or save it
yeah it
and she's so responsible with
their money and stuff too it's not like I
need her to like pay for her
car to I like it really
all tomorrow for
yeah and for her
the car it's not like
I want her to
drive more than she wants to drive
because it's like
it's um
it's it's more beneficial to us for
her to drive than anything else
so of course um
and I want her to be safe
and I also
um you know how
it is like we're the last thing
I'd want is like to have my kid in some
like shitty
um not safe
unreliable car where they're like calling
me because the batter I you know
because it needs work and then I have to deal
with like working on a car
or getting a car home or
whatever um yeah
it's kind of like having a rental property
you know you're like oh great I got to
go I know deal with this water
heater I would uh which I've had
to do in the past totally so I would be
inclined to pick like a you know
Toyota Tacoma or something two wheel drive
really simple but they're just not the safest cars
they're yeah especially for
young people and weather or like where we
live there's a lot of mountain roads passive or active
dude yeah like they're just not
good cars uh for
handling and breaking
and you know I think active
safety safety is a huge thing for
a young driver yeah or just
having a car that's like that can steer
brake yeah yeah
front wheel drive too like I mean
right like if you're talking about a GTI like
what's better than getting car control
feel out of a car like that first
and definitely moving along
so uh
this nice life says in your
opinion what was the best sounding vehicle
at fat ice race
dude this is Andrew
menace I believe
do you know Andrew menace at a way Andrew
sounds familiar
yeah I met him there um
and I feel like we've crossed paths before
probably all of us have but yeah super cool
dude um
dude the sound
like I didn't really
like when I
I was asked that by someone else
and I'm like I don't remember hearing
any of the cars you don't remember
it's like well it's because the valley
we were you were freezing and
once you're yeah maybe that's it
your senses I think that's what it
is dude I think it's like the valley
we were in or whatever but
there was nothing for the sound to bounce
off of or um
I don't know what it was but the one
car that like
made a lot of noise and I did hear
was that
Bronco trophy truck thing
and you know it's just big V8 noises
and that sound you know it's pretty rad
besides that like
there was a Pagani wire out there dude
and I could barely hear it
whoa okay I'm surprised Enzo
didn't get a shout out because I mean
Enzo sounds amazing or the 250
GT short wheelbase like that and Enzo
felt quiet dude
there was a brand new Corvette
ZR1 out there I think was so quiet
hmm yeah putting down
1200 horsepower or whatever they put down
Jesus I thought I was going to
dig a hole in the ice though I was like
I bet yeah a real
Chris Baca says when does Lane's
coffee table book drop and
can I write the forward
dude so this is
just like photos of
coffee
oh that
actually that's
it's pretty good most boring that's the
most boring book you know top down
yeah like you have a lot of coffee
pictures like it might be in a
in a real or you know what am I trying
to say we can do it of Chris's
latte art there exactly yeah well
maybe that's like a little bunnies and
like that's got to be automotive I mean
I'm guessing that's why he wants to write the forward
yeah yeah yeah yeah
so TBD
I have thought about making a coffee table book
that would be fun well if you do it make it
like Kramer's where it is a coffee table
little legs pop out so good
I think that's the move
Matt Shure says
are you guys going on the rally
to McGaragawa
Lane is I will be on
that yeah that should be
a lot of fun
sweet I will be
on that I don't know what I'm going to
what car I'm going to be in or what I'm
doing but I will be on it I just
Tark I saw
I saw our pal Mark Arsenal
and I said he's going to be on it
oh cool sweet
and
yeah but a few other people
so yeah should be fun be a nice time
Vlad Hooligan
says what's a new
2026 car truck
you would consider buying for your needs
and budgets could be a daily
rally etc I'm not in the market
myself but the new Civic Si and
our models look like really solid
propositions I think that's true
I saw a Civic Type R the other day it was white
and coming that front angle is so
nice like yeah it's wide
it's got the right yeah just
it's not overly busy
I like the interior too
I know I really like the interior
I agree and I'm right there
in adjacent
Integra Type S yeah I
think they're so they're such
an awesome all arounder like it
it's kind of faultless and I think
like it looks great it's got a hatchback
it's got plenty of room it's a four door all of it
like it's a really really solid
all arounder the one
on our rally looks so good really good
yeah I mean I we just
bought a new car you know a couple
year and a half ago or whatever which is the
CX 50 Mazda and
it's great I have very few complaints
about it it it handles great
it looks good it's
whoa it's
so loud wow I was
slicked up
you know real automatic
transmission no start stop all these things
like it's a great car so CX
50 Mazda what else is
catching my eye these you know what I I mean
the new GTI one car of the year and
Motor Trend and it's supposed
to be really good like they fixed all the bumper
the button stuff that's right
so and it's kind of like
yeah that
that seems like a really good car
I really like
the looks of the new Honda
pilot oh yeah like with
and the off-road one looks really
good dude I saw one
the other day and I was like man if I was
like buying Heidi another car right now that
that's probably yeah just by looking
at it like it's just such a
clean box and
nice little details on that off-road
edition one or whatever it's called
I'm sure
I'm sure it's not like
it's not like an off-road car
but it just has like it just looks cool
yeah I thought it looked really good
and clean and
just a good looking vehicle I agree
yeah I mean the one that I'm
holding off for that I actually do want
as a replacement for my golf is the R3
or the R I mean I don't know if they're really
gonna make the R3 X dude supposedly
they had one up I went
to a Rivian party
and they keep just showing
this these stupid R1s dude and I'm like
I was talking to the photographer
for Rivian like where's the R3
dude you know and he's like
oh dude we have one out here oh really
I'm like I photographed it he's like
but it's like I don't know if they're just gonna show it
or not oh just for like yeah private
yeah
yeah they're just not showing it
anywhere I'm like yeah I was surprised there was nothing
at the quail yeah they're claiming
they built a whole new factory I can't remember
where but specifically to run that line
so and I and our twos I think
so I know it's in the works
I mean I'm just hoping that the company survives
so that they I know yeah
I was just surprised because Rivian
was like a big sponsor of the ice race
and they were running on and they did that
rad program they sold rad for most
dude I was gonna know handle some lawsuits
dude they even use the Toyota
stripes I know
totally yeah I'm like dude they use they still
rad and then put Toyota stripes on it
well
but
yeah I was like
it was surprising that they
I guess they don't have one far enough
in development to bring it out to you would think
they would bring it to ice I mean I saw it
at Pebble Beach last year I looked at a prototype
and they weren't letting you sit in it where
where was it was near that concept Pebble
Beach yeah it was at that you know
the the offsite Mercedes Benz
by good like they have the job why didn't
they have it at quail then I don't know
it wouldn't let me really get too close
to it and it was definitely not a production
vehicle you know it had all the weird
stuff going on like you could just look
closely clay no it was
a real car but it was just not
not still working on details
yeah there is one that they
that you see featured on occasion
here and there and it looks very complete
they have a standard one and an R3
X I've seen it pop up on reels
and stuff I think it's at their HQ
and down south here but
yeah yeah I mean I don't know we'll see
I mean supposedly it's still in the works
but yeah that just checks all the boxes for me
I want like a really small you know
very good like dynamic hatchback
and yeah that thing looks rad
it's basically a modern
Delta Integraale so
aesthetically it's there and it checks
all the boxes for my such a cool
replacement for the golf yeah perfect
use case I haven't looked at use prices
or if you have to buy a new but
I do really like the look
of the Toyota Crown
Signia those are cool which
is sort of a perfect
just appliance it's
a hybrid it's
sort of a you know
sport wagon but it sits
a little high and yeah it's
very rare and unique and
I think it's just a cool car
that was that's like that question we got asked last week
was like what new car is going to be
really cool in 25 to 30 years
that's one of them because I don't think they're going to make
them forever like very long at all I think it's going to be
very quick in and out
yeah they're cool and you never see them
even the regular crowns are really rare they're
funky but very rare
let's see
here Bobby Reed with the car
says I'm packing my jorts
and my new balance shoes and taking my 71
bridge Hampton blue Corvette
on the camping while awesome vintage rally
I need to get new tires
I have two sets of wheels for this car
factory rally wheels
and the vintage Hallibrand five spokes
with painted gray spokes
which wheels
would you like to see on the Corvette
Hallibrands
yeah Hallibrands are pretty hard
to beat those are sick and they have
knockoffs usually too and like that's like
it's like a period mod it's like
if you asked me should I put rudge wheels
on my speedster or
bring the standard one
what are the finned wheels called
like the well those are hubcaps
no no they made
a finned Corvette
wheel for like a 67
wait aren't like the ones that
um that um
what's his face has on his that he's brought out a
bunch of times
Andrew yeah do off a low yeah
yeah I'm pretty sure Andrew's
car has hubcaps
no I don't think so
I have to look it up look it up
I think he has steelies with hubcaps
right or oh no
he has the finned ones they're right
oh yeah you're right I just
looked them up yeah they're they're really cool
looking they're like alpina style I mean
you know a better word but uh
like 67's you could get it
yeah those are cool remember what they're called
those are wrap but I I think
the uh the uh
Hallibrands Hallibrands would be
super dope dude yeah and then get
get some good rubber on them like some can you
get CM 36 or something get some like
road race from Avons like dude
well you know what the answer is it's
Avons you're a rubber
some some like Avons or like
yeah exactly that's what I said yeah
yeah or even like the old school
like good your eagle with like
the yellow script I mean yeah
that's kind of drive that well that's
what I was saying CM 36 I guess
some good stuff I know but did they make
them for that size it's like what
15 by it's
I don't know they're probably not that wide
on a car like that oh maybe
yeah maybe they are wide too wide
huh yeah Avons size is available
Avons yeah Bobby's
spend $500 a tire on Avons
you know no big deal
Bobby's got it like that that's right
um I think it's all about
that period correct look though right I mean
the cheapest option is the
Chris paneling radial TAs
yeah of course which don't look bad
I mean it's good no
they drive pretty well right
they're totally great yeah
especially current construction like it's
probably way better than what was on
period so that's your default if you can't
find anything better but like a rad Avon
or like a vintage
good year
if they've got the new compounds and stuff
that would be cool too um
but tires are like
it's a personal thing man you know
but well he's asking about wheels
so I think he's
yeah I'm just asking the question and I
think how brands
how brands for sure yeah
desperately seeking
Suzuki says do you think
the proliferation of
cheap speed with electric cars has actually
helped the slow car fast movement
for example now that anyone can go fast
do you think that people are looking for new
ways to have automotive experiences
100%
I do think it has yeah yeah
you're gonna find a lot more hipsters
revolting from
said cars right
yeah I think more people are kind
of understanding
the whole movement
right there's more
and it isn't even just slow car fast
it's just the engagement like all of the other
elements that go beyond just
as like Lane said like when you're a kid all you
look at is numbers right it's like
like this is the fastest right the acceleration
or power versus like everything else
that you know goes into it all of the touch
points all the sense of occasion
and then of course yeah
the slow car fast
is a big part of it right like being able to like
use the power
and not be concerned about raw speed
yeah I would also say
I was just gonna say that
electric cars are part of this but the
the
proliferation of throwaway
cars just junky
non-styled
you know
simple slab design
cars has made
stylish choices like
old you know an old G wagon
or a Mercedes wagon from the 80s
or
you know anything with style
it really stands out it's like whoa look at that
like even if it's a car that's not
you know hard to
maintain our own like an LS400 or something
we show up in that it's like whoa
instead of just the
Subaru Forester
definitely
dang dude you're talking about Subaru Forester
it's kind of like the pinnacle of design though
oh yeah
pinnacles
that's it for questions
you got anything else you want to
get to trivia
my car is
at the shop right now
as we speak getting a cat installed
which I had teased last week so
you know I had
found a really nice little
short compact high flow cat
that I measured up
and you know assumed it would
fit but you know I did get confirmation
when we got here when I got to the shop
and he put it on the lift and he's like yeah
I can make that work so is this it for exhaust
once this is done maybe we'll see
dude
cross your fingers dude this is exciting
I hope so man that would be so nice
because otherwise
I mean there's
options but it's still an experiment
right and this
if this cat with this resonator
and this muffler work then I'm stoked
I still have a lot more
room to put a bigger muffler on there
like it's I think the one that
be like let's put on there's like a 17 inch
and I could easily fit like a 24 inch
it's a ton of space up and
you have room before ahead or behind the strut
rather yeah so like
in theory I could go bigger and make it even
quieter but we'll see what this sounds like
and then I'm less concerned about volume
as you guys know it's just that tinnyness the tone
yes rasp so
hopefully with combined with this cat we
have alleviated that and
sweet you will see
that's very exciting yeah that is
I'm excited to hear all about it
all right well on that note
it's trivia time
do be do be do be do be do be do
it's trivia time oh warren yes sir
very good and I want to give a
rack oh I want to give a recommendation to
people sir formula
one is starting up it is
and there's a lot of stuff to watch
to strive to survive is out
but
the new acquired episode I don't know if you
guys listened to the acquired I've never
heard what is that
you don't listen to a choir never heard of this
oh
it's a great podcast it
basically dissects brands
and the history of brands
cool the business
of brands so
they did a five hour episode
on Rolex
five hours you know
Costco Apple Tesla
everything you can think of they've done these two guys
they do
they study
like deep like they really
study it and then they go in they talk
about it and they're like they're pretty fun to listen
to that it's not like dry
and they go from the beginning
to the end it's all about the business of the brand
like how they you know why how they make money
how they did this how they started how they
changed throughout the years how they
changed the way they do business how they
they're focused the new one is on
formula one oh sweet
and it's four and a half hours long
nice that is a and so
crazy the Rolex one I listen to
on a drive from
LA to Santa Cruz and I did
not finish the podcast on that
that's a perfect that's a perfect use
for awesome yeah it's
such a good podcast I'm surprised you guys
haven't heard of it like
that though there's quite a few of these business
you know dissection
podcast I mean acquired is very popular
one it has
probably close to five thousand reviews
you know it's like yeah it's it's a big
big one of those big podcast
as big as DWA is what you're saying
yeah exactly I used to listen
to business wars remember
and that was but it was like
it was in tandem so it's like
it's like Red Bull versus monster
but you get sort of like the the story
of each independently use and then
how they started kind of like how they
over kind of intersect and then
how they like compete with each other and
all that kind of stuff which is no I'm
super down with that I'll check it out
and the other thing I meant to do up front
and I forgot and I told myself to do it
is I wanted
to ask people
to rate and review the show
on whatever platform
you listen oh yeah it's we have a
Spotify we haven't
had reviews I feel like
we haven't received any reviews
in a long time you have not asked either
hey hey can you give
us a review
review like and subscribe
yeah all the five
stars and tell us why
yeah why we're so awesome
yeah man come on
yeah so we would really appreciate
it we do this thing for free
actually I meant to do some
I did some quick math I
wanted to do a whole rundown but
I did I I did
math on some quick math on
our Instagram posts
because we have like over 12,000
Instagram posts and if you
average of 20 minutes of posts which
is probably maybe even low
it is a hundred
and forty four days
of
constant posting
oh my god well luckily some of those posts are
like you know a minute and then
others are like half an hour
so we're out somewhere like a long
time you're like because it's editing
watching especially you're going deep
Lane like yeah and like scroll
like making the scroll like it's
like yeah yeah yeah the listener should
know that Lane incredible amount of effort
into those posts and the podcast
and everything yeah
damn dude 12,000
shit so
so now we can get to trivia all right that's
fine that's fine this is all important stuff
come see us in Amelia
I can throw that in there now that we're
derailed that's this
weekend and then a month
from now a little over a month from now we'll be
in Charlotte North Carolina at the Heritage
Invitational very much
looking forward to that and to be clear
just to reiterate
Radwood at the Amelia
is free to attend
so swing by hang out the concourse
across the street is not free but
you're there so if you want to check some
other stuff out obviously
go and do your thing
we'll go for it
shout out to Marcus Smith's
son
Graham Smith
who was
ripping in a little legends car
at Ice Race oh nice
yeah those are so funny to me my
old co-worker
and boss used to run one of those
and I thought they were so goofy at the time
I mean this is like it 2000
dude they were killing it there
like so fast
yeah they had rad motors and they're all
little 1000 cc like Kawasaki
or something yeah
alright back to trivia
you might have seen this story so I'll just take
the first person that can throw this
out wins type of thing
but
Tampa airport announces
a new dress code
what has been banned
flip-flops no flip-flops
close there's two other shoes
say that again open-toed shoes
nope
you're close
it is one is a shoe
and one is a
crocs clothing
crocs it is
oh nice
crocs are no longer allowed
and what's something that goes along
with crocs often times
accessories pins
no giblets think think clothing
shorts what which what cargo shorts
can you imagine
Tampa banning cargo shorts no one ever
flies again from that airport
crocs too dude
that goes with crocs
people who wear crocs will often wear this type
of clothing to a plane
Tommy Bahama shirts
yes pajamas
oh
that's hard to define
pajamas now I will say
this is a little bit of like
you know social social media
account manager
having some fun with it
but it did say that
they have successfully banned crocs
which I don't know how you would do that
why why why though
I can't say it on the podcast
I am anti-crocs for sure
I can't tell you this on the podcast
it gets too spicy for the listeners
but it's
only certain types of people
that I'm gonna say low IQ
people wear crocs or children
wow all these dude
well all these are a complete idiot
for wearing crocs but
we've already talked about that
but yeah so children
wear crocs that's fine
but that's really all that should be wearing
crocs and then
pajamas like those you know
polyester fleece pajama pants
okay have been banned
from the Tampa airport okay good because
I like to wear my veori athleisure
sweats that's fine because you spent
$900 on it it's totally acceptable
they're not they're like $750
feel like $100 shirt
you're like cool I got some veori stuff
is that like gross
no no veori is fine you're in you're totally
we're in I got a veori
polo shirt it feels like I'm wearing a trash bag
but that's cool
that's yours alright next question
here
your favorite heartthrob
Sydney Sweeney
was recently spotted
a photo shoot
in what
cool car
her Bronco negative
her 356
I don't think this is her car it might be
but she's in the backseat driving around LA
taking pics
Radwood era
Radwood era
oh well he's in the backseat because I know
one of the Kardashians has a C4S993
but that won't work and I will say that
I don't even know if this car was equipped
with a backseat
oh wow
well you do know that R107s were
as were R129s as options
so it's not that
R107 is that
and it was an option
yes but you said that you did not know
that it was offered so it can't be the car
the car that she's in may or may not have had
a backseat she's in the back of an R107
oh gotcha
driving around like a
80s
glam queen
that's cool
did you guys see that ad with
what's her name
well she's the
pop singer
oh pop singer grace
grace under fire
the 90s sitcom
shit
grace
Jones mad max
are you talking about contemporary
amazing grace
yeah
they're in the Porsche 964
they're in the Porsche 964 have you seen that
ad for like a
no
I'm checking into my flight
Lane does not know
dude I just had such a brain fart dude
Lane does not know
who's the producer of lost it's his daughter
who's the director
oh Abrams
Gracie Abrams
we got there
Gracie Abrams she's a
pop singer
she's actually pretty good
for what it is
but yeah she's in this ad
and it's a 964 I think it's a
tar it's either like a
targa or maybe a cab
cruising down LA with another girl
I don't know who the other one is
and it's yeah
it's all over my feet dude
hell yeah dude I like
I like her feeds that right now
there we go dude I think it's like
it's some guy I'm friends with on
Instagram I think he
like art directed it oh okay
I did it that's cool we
we
forget his name but
we have a dude who was in the movie business
he still is but he worked with Sydney Sweeney
for a little bit and said she was delightful
so okay nice
well he's best friends with
she is best friends with
Rod Emery's daughter oh I didn't
know that either and Rod Emery
yeah like so she was
Bridesmaid and Rod
in her wedding hey the more you
know folks all comes back
but yeah R107
SL I don't know if it's her car but
it's always funny when those decisions
get made because it's a it was just a
US model red
red tan I was about to ask
yeah so big bumper big bumper just
the most yeah pretty standard
standard Emery is I think
Emery is building or built her a
356 how about
that and he's the one that helped her
like taught her to work
on cars and stuff or whatever so
supposedly nice
Rod Emery
Shots out dude all right well that's
podcast we'll see you guys next time
okay bye
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