From Guesswork to Process: Modern Diagnostic Strategies for Auto Repair Shops [RR 1093]
About this episode
Modern auto repair is framed as a shift from guessing to repeatable diagnostics, backed by training, measurable shop processes, and better customer communication. The hosts walk through a workflow that starts with “Verify the concern,” checks pending codes, searches TSBs, and then moves into targeted tests like compression and electronic current probing. They contrast slow conventional methods with electronic relative compression and lab-scope patterns, and stress that continuing education—plus tools like immersive training and AR tech assist—keeps shops efficient, profitable, and ethical.
Recorded live at the 2026 TST Big Event, Carm Capriotto sits down with automotive trainer Ken Zanders to discuss the importance of ongoing technical education, building efficient diagnostic processes, and adapting to rapidly evolving vehicle technology. Ken explains why too many shops still rely on a chaotic “grocery list” approach to repairs and how a structured diagnostic strategy can dramatically improve technician efficiency, profitability, and customer trust.
What You’ll Learn
- Why inefficient diagnostic habits directly reduce technician productivity, shop profitability, and overall earning potential.
- The importance of following a structured diagnostic workflow instead of guessing and replacing parts.
- How electronic relative compression testing with a lab scope and amperage probe can reduce diagnostic time from hours to minutes.
- How modern vehicle technologies like GM’s Vehicle Intelligence Platform (VIP) and Over-The-Air (OTA) updates are changing diagnostics and repair procedures.
- Why continuous education is no longer optional for automotive professionals working on today’s advanced vehicle systems.
The biggest takeaway from this episode is that repair shops cannot afford to operate in constant chaos and guesswork. A reactive “grocery list” approach to diagnostics leads to wasted time, unnecessary parts replacement, lower profits, and poor customer outcomes. To succeed in today’s increasingly complex automotive industry, shop owners must create a year-round training strategy that helps technicians diagnose efficiently, think critically, and continuously improve their skills. Structured processes, modern testing methods, and ongoing education are no longer advantages; they are necessities for survival and growth.
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"...suggesting that the young technicians be taught how to do what is called a relative compression test. And basically it's a compression test that's done electronically versus conventional."
It’s a way to check how healthy each cylinder is by comparing them to each other. Instead of just getting one number, it helps you see which cylinder is weaker so you can focus your diagnosis.
A relative compression test compares the compression of multiple cylinders to each other, rather than measuring absolute PSI/bar. In this episode, it’s described as being done electronically, which helps technicians spot which cylinder(s) are low and narrow down causes like worn rings, valves, or head-gasket issues.
conventional
"...a relative compression test. And basically it's a compression test that's done electronically versus conventional. Now conventional means would be to take all the spark plugs out and get all the aesthetics out of the way that are on the engine."
Here, “conventional” means the older, more hands-on way of doing the test. It usually takes longer because you have to remove parts to get to the cylinders.
In this context, “conventional” refers to the traditional compression test method that requires removing components to access the cylinders. The speaker contrasts it with an electronic approach, emphasizing that the conventional method takes more time because of the physical disassembly required.
spark plugs
"Now conventional means would be to take all the spark plugs out and get all the aesthetics out of the way that are on the engine."
Spark plugs make the spark that lights the fuel in each cylinder. For some engine tests, they’re removed so the engine can crank easier and the results are more accurate.
Spark plugs are the ignition components that create the spark to ignite the air-fuel mixture in each cylinder. For a traditional compression test, technicians often remove spark plugs to reduce resistance and allow the engine to crank more freely and consistently.
coils
"They gotta move stuff out of the way. They gotta take coils off. They run the tests, they're two hours in."
“Coils” are part of the ignition system that help create the spark for the engine. Shops may remove them to access spark plugs or run tests. Putting them back correctly is important so the car doesn’t develop new problems.
In an engine context, “coils” usually refers to ignition coils, which convert battery voltage into the high voltage needed to fire the spark plugs. Removing coils is often part of accessing spark plugs or running certain diagnostic checks. If coils are removed, reinstallation time and careful handling matter because mis-seating connectors can create new faults.
misunderstanding
"And that's due to misunderstanding. I get it. When you go to a doctor, if he runs a test"
Sometimes customers think they only should pay if the mechanic finds something broken. But diagnostics can still be valuable even when the test is normal, because it helps rule out the most likely causes. It’s like paying for an exam even if you’re told you’re okay.
The episode highlights a common diagnostic-shop issue: customers may expect a “found problem” outcome to justify the bill. When tests come back normal, the value is still in ruling out likely causes and preventing unnecessary repairs. This is essentially the difference between “diagnosis” and “repair,” and how customers interpret test results.
amperage probe
"Well, I'm gonna run this test electronically. [512.1s] Well, I'm gonna run this test electronically. [515.7s] And basically, I'm gonna take an amperage probe. [518.4s] I'm gonna put it around your battery cable."
An amperage probe is a current-sensing tool used to measure electrical current without directly disconnecting wiring. In diagnostics, it can help identify abnormal draw or verify that a circuit is behaving as expected. Clamping it around a battery cable lets the technician observe current flow during starting or operation.
battery cable
"And basically, I'm gonna take an amperage probe. [518.4s] I'm gonna put it around your battery cable."
The battery cable is the thick wire that carries power from the battery to the car. It’s where a lot of electrical current flows, especially when starting. That’s why it’s a useful spot to measure current during troubleshooting.
A battery cable is the heavy-gauge wire that connects the car’s battery to the rest of the electrical system, including the starter and main power distribution. Because it carries high current, it’s a common place to measure current draw during diagnostics. Clamping a current probe around it can reveal whether the system is pulling too much or too little power.
lab scope
"I'm gonna attach it to my lab scope. I'm gonna get this pattern that we expect to see."
A “lab scope” is a special tool that shows electrical signals as a graph. In car diagnostics, it helps you see what a sensor is really doing instead of guessing.
A “lab scope” is a diagnostic oscilloscope used to view electrical signals from a vehicle’s sensors and actuators. Instead of guessing from scan-tool codes alone, the technician looks at the waveform pattern to confirm what the system is doing.
pattern
"I'm gonna get this pattern that we expect to see. I'm hoping and expecting to get a pattern. That's a good pattern."
In diagnostics, a “pattern” refers to the expected waveform or signal behavior that indicates a system is operating correctly. The technician compares what the oscilloscope shows to a known-good pattern to decide whether the diagnosis is on track.
efficiency thing
"Do it, baby. This is the whole efficiency thing. Exactly."
“Efficiency” here means the shop’s diagnostic process is organized so they can find the problem faster and with fewer mistakes. It’s about getting reliable answers in a reasonable amount of time.
“Efficiency” in a repair shop context means using a repeatable diagnostic process so tests are completed quickly and correctly. The goal is to turn diagnostic time into actionable results—reducing guesswork and improving throughput.
Dorman
"You're out with Dorman. I mean, I don't know, are you ever home?"
Dorman is an auto-parts company that makes replacement parts for many vehicles. Here it’s mentioned because the speaker is associated with their training.
Dorman is an automotive parts brand/company known for aftermarket replacement components and training resources for repair shops. In this segment, it’s referenced in the context of the speaker’s work and training background.
Verify the concern
"And my step one is nothing new. [649.1s] Verify the concern. [650.2s] I've actually gone to shops and I'll say, [653.3s] well, what was the customer's concern?"
This means the technician confirms the problem the customer is complaining about before doing anything else. It helps avoid diagnosing the wrong issue because the complaint might be unclear or incomplete.
“Verify the concern” is a diagnostic workflow step where the shop confirms the customer’s complaint before jumping to tests or parts. The idea is to ensure the symptom is real and correctly described, because miscommunication can lead to chasing the wrong problem.
question one
"So now let's say we successfully get past question one. [671.4s] We then go to question two. [673.0s] I've had some very good friends and technicians tell me,"
They’re talking about the first step in a checklist for diagnosing the car. Instead of guessing, the shop follows questions in order to narrow down the cause.
“Question one” here refers to the first step in a structured diagnostic decision tree used by the shop. It emphasizes that diagnosis should follow a defined sequence of checks rather than random troubleshooting.
pending code
"I've had some very good friends and technicians tell me, [675.4s] well, Kenny, why should I check for codes? [676.9s] Check engine light is on. [678.1s] Well, there could be a pending code."
A pending code is a “maybe” problem the car’s computer noticed. It usually means the issue is happening sometimes, and the car hasn’t fully confirmed it yet to turn on the check engine light.
A pending code is an OBD-II diagnostic trouble code that the car’s computer has detected but hasn’t confirmed strongly enough to turn on the check engine light yet. It often means the fault happened intermittently, or the conditions for a “confirmed” code haven’t been met across enough drive cycles.
check for codes
"well, Kenny, why should I check for codes? [675.4s] well, Kenny, why should I check for codes? [676.9s] Check engine light is on. [678.1s] Well, there could be a pending code."
This means using a scanner to read the car’s stored error messages. Those codes help point to the system that’s having trouble, instead of guessing.
“Check for codes” means scanning the vehicle for diagnostic trouble codes stored in the car’s computer. Codes (including pending ones) provide objective clues about what systems the car detected as abnormal, helping technicians avoid guesswork.
check engine light
"well, Kenny, why should I check for codes? [676.9s] Check engine light is on. [678.1s] Well, there could be a pending code. [681.1s] The pending code happened for a reason."
The check engine light is the car’s way of saying, “Something isn’t right.” A mechanic doesn’t just guess from the light—they scan the car to see what the computer recorded.
The check engine light is the dashboard indicator that the vehicle’s onboard diagnostics (OBD-II) have detected a problem worth alerting the driver about. In diagnostic work, it’s a starting clue, but technicians also look for stored and pending codes to understand what the computer saw and when.
pre-scan report
"[685.2s] and making a note. [686.7s] Do a pre-scan report. [689.0s] And then last but not least,"
Before you start guessing, you scan the car with a diagnostic tool. The pre-scan report is the first summary of what the car is complaining about, usually in the form of error codes.
A pre-scan report is the shop’s initial output from scanning the vehicle before deeper diagnosis. It typically summarizes stored and pending diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) and may include basic readiness/vehicle status info to guide the next checks.
TSBs
"[692.8s] And a lot of technicians admit. [695.7s] Step number three, you should be checking for TSBs. [699.3s] Maybe that TSB might be the only fix."
TSBs are official repair notes from the car maker. If your car has a known issue, the TSB can tell the mechanic the right fix and what to do next.
TSBs (Technical Service Bulletins) are manufacturer-issued repair instructions for known problems. In diagnostics, checking TSBs can reveal the correct fix and even the exact sequence of steps the manufacturer expects for a given symptom or code.
reflash ECM
"[707.8s] step three on the TSB. [709.0s] And if the last step says reflash ECM [711.3s] and that's the end of the bulletin, that's it."
Reflash ECM means updating the car’s engine computer software. Sometimes the problem is caused by outdated software, and the update fixes it without replacing parts.
“Reflash ECM” means updating the Engine Control Module’s software with a newer calibration. Many TSBs end with a reflash because the fix is sometimes a software change rather than a mechanical part replacement.
module
"I own a particular scan tool where there's a module that you attach to the scan tool. And it has software in there where it'll run battery starting charging."
A module is an extra attachment for the scan tool. It lets the tool do more specialized tests—here, related to the battery and starting system.
A diagnostic module is an add-on hardware piece that expands what a scan tool can do. In this context, the module runs battery-related tests and interfaces with the scan tool’s software to collect results.
battery starting charging
"And it has software in there where it'll run battery starting charging. And it's a done deal. So now I get past that."
This phrase means checking the battery, the starting system, and the charging system together. If the car won’t start, the problem could be the battery, the starter, or the alternator—not just the engine.
“Battery starting charging” refers to the three linked parts of the car’s electrical system: the battery’s ability to supply power, the starter’s ability to crank, and the alternator/charging system’s ability to recharge. Checking all three helps isolate whether a no-start or weak-start issue is electrical or mechanical.
diagnostic stop
"My opinion, the diagnostic stop because I need a good engine before I can go any further. How are you going to determine that?"
A diagnostic stop is a moment where you stop and confirm something important before going further. It prevents wasting time chasing mechanical problems when the real issue is electrical or starting-related.
A “diagnostic stop” is a deliberate checkpoint where you pause the process until a key condition is confirmed. The speaker’s point is that you shouldn’t move on to deeper mechanical diagnosis until you’ve verified the engine’s starting/electrical prerequisites are satisfied.
current probe
"Well, we're going to run the test electronically. A current probe is placed around the battery cable. The current probe is then attached to a laptop with software."
A current probe is a sensor that measures how much electricity is flowing. Clamped around the battery cable, it helps show whether the starter is drawing the expected current when the engine is cranked.
A current probe measures electrical current without directly disconnecting the circuit. Here it’s placed around the battery cable so the technician can see how much current the starter draws while cranking, which helps diagnose weak electrical supply vs. other causes.
compression testing
"And they are prompting those schools [864.6s] to teach relative compression testing, no matter what. [870.2s] It just makes sense."
Compression testing is a way to check how well an engine’s cylinders are sealing and building pressure. If one cylinder is weak, it can point to problems inside the engine. The point here is that it’s a useful step shops can do to avoid guessing.
Compression testing is a diagnostic method that measures how much pressure an engine can build in its cylinders. It helps identify internal engine problems like worn rings, leaking valves, or head gasket issues by showing whether cylinders are producing healthy pressure. In this episode, the host emphasizes using it as part of a repeatable diagnostic process.
engine families
"It just makes sense. [872.1s] These engine families have become very difficult [874.9s] to get to things."
“Engine families” means engines that are related by design. Some newer designs are packaged tightly, so it’s harder to reach parts for testing. The episode is pointing out that access problems can make certain diagnostic steps take longer.
“Engine families” are groups of related engines that share design architecture, components, and service characteristics. The host is saying some of these families have become harder to access for testing because packaging and design changes make certain components difficult to reach. That’s why a faster, more targeted test strategy matters.
drivability
"[900.1s] And then only to find out the compression is good. [904.9s] Is this process necessary for drivability or check engine? [909.0s] I would say absolutely, it just makes sense."
“Drivability” means how the car feels and acts when you’re driving it. Problems like stumbling, hesitation, or running rough fall under drivability complaints. The episode suggests compression testing can help rule in or out internal engine causes.
“Drivability” refers to how the vehicle behaves while being driven—things like hesitation, rough running, stalling, or poor throttle response. It’s a common complaint category in repair shops because many different systems (fuel, ignition, sensors, and sometimes internal engine condition) can cause drivability issues. The host ties compression testing to resolving drivability concerns.
check ignition
"[911.6s] It's a makes sense process. [914.0s] Common sense, number five, check ignition. [916.7s] Check ignition."
“Check ignition” means checking the car’s spark/ignition system to see if it’s working. If the ignition isn’t right, the engine may misfire or not start, so it’s a good place to look early.
In diagnostics, “check ignition” means verifying the ignition system’s ability to create spark and/or trigger ignition events. Shops typically do this early because ignition-related faults can often be isolated quickly with basic electrical checks and scan-tool data.
pull a fuse
"[921.1s] that can be another area that could be fairly quickly accessed. [925.5s] Maybe you could pull a fuse, [927.0s] you can look at all the coils on that one circuit."
“Pull a fuse” means removing a fuse to see if that circuit is the problem. If the fuse is bad or the circuit isn’t getting power, it helps point you to the right area to test next.
“Pull a fuse” is a diagnostic step where a technician removes a fuse to confirm whether that fuse is supplying power to a circuit. It’s used to narrow down electrical faults—especially when multiple components share the same fuse.
fuses
"[936.6s] if everything is good or bad. [938.7s] And of course, check what fuses too. [940.6s] I mean, I think you just mentioned that."
Fuses are safety devices in the car’s wiring. If a circuit has a problem, the fuse may blow, so checking fuses can quickly tell you whether power is reaching the components you’re trying to test.
Fuses protect electrical circuits by blowing when current is too high, preventing wiring and components from overheating or shorting. In diagnostics, checking fuses helps confirm whether a circuit has power before testing downstream parts.
NAPA AutoCare
"[951.7s] To keep your shop competitive, [953.1s] your technicians need training that's smarter, [955.5s] faster, and future focused. [957.8s] That's why NAPA AutoCare is excited [959.5s] to introduce three new auto tech initiatives,"
NAPA AutoCare is a NAPA program that supports auto repair shops and technicians. Here, it’s mentioned as offering new training initiatives to help shops diagnose cars better and faster.
NAPA AutoCare is a NAPA-branded program focused on technician training and shop support. In this segment, it’s used as the source of new diagnostic/training initiatives like fast track assessments and tech assist.
fast track assessments
"[957.8s] That's why NAPA AutoCare is excited [959.5s] to introduce three new auto tech initiatives, [962.4s] fast track assessments, [963.9s] the accelerator training program, and tech assist."
“Fast track assessments” sounds like a quicker, structured way to evaluate a car’s problem. The goal is to help technicians figure things out faster and more accurately.
“Fast track assessments” is presented as a shop training/diagnostic initiative aimed at speeding up how technicians evaluate a vehicle’s condition. The episode frames it as part of a broader effort to improve diagnostic speed and accuracy.
scan tools
"[1124.5s] Are we, as an industry, we've got scan tools [1128.1s] inside the shop and the owner buys them?"
A scan tool is a device a mechanic plugs into the car. It can pull up error codes and show sensor readings so the technician can figure out what’s wrong.
“Scan tools” are diagnostic devices shops use to communicate with a car’s onboard computer. They read trouble codes and live sensor data so technicians can narrow down what’s causing a check-engine light or drivability issue.
data interpretation class
"[1140.5s] In my opinion, I wish there were more data [1145.5s] interpretation class. [1147.5s] And what I mean by that, how to interpret the data"
This is training on how to understand the numbers the car is sending. The goal is to help technicians not just look at data, but use it to make the right diagnosis.
A “data interpretation” class focuses on turning diagnostic readings (like sensor values and scan-tool data) into a diagnosis. Instead of just collecting data, it teaches technicians how to interpret patterns and challenge their conclusions.
MAP sensor
"[1155.6s] One question I always pose in my classes, [1158.9s] looking at a map sensor, MAP sensor. [1161.7s] Yeah."
The MAP sensor tells the car how much air pressure is in the engine’s intake. The computer uses that information to decide how much fuel to inject, so wrong readings can point to the real cause of a problem.
The MAP sensor (Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor) measures the pressure in the intake manifold. Engine control modules use it to calculate airflow and load, which affects fuel delivery and ignition timing—so interpreting its readings correctly is key to diagnosing drivability problems.
inches of mercury
"it literally says 10 inches of mercury. Well, right away, the technician in many cases will go off the scales."
Inches of mercury (inHg) is a unit used to describe pressure/vacuum. Where you live changes the baseline air pressure, so the “normal” number on a scan tool can shift.
“Inches of mercury” (inHg) is a pressure unit commonly used for engine vacuum and intake manifold pressure readings. Because it depends on local atmospheric pressure, the same engine can show different inHg values in different cities, so technicians must interpret scan data in context.
engine vacuum
"And then we're going to let that equal engine vacuum. Let's for a moment pretend we have a perfect vacuum. And we'll use 30 inches of mercury."
Engine vacuum is the “suction” the engine creates in the intake system. If the vacuum number is off, it can point to an airflow or intake problem, so the mechanic uses sensor data to check whether it makes sense.
Engine vacuum is the negative pressure created by the engine’s intake process, and it’s a key diagnostic indicator for things like intake leaks, throttle/valve behavior, and overall engine health. This segment explains how to compute expected vacuum from atmospheric pressure and MAP sensor data, then compare it to what the scan tool shows.
engine mechanical analysis
"with more concentration on engine mechanical analysis, ignition, fuel systems, definitely"
This is diagnosing the engine’s real mechanical condition, like whether something inside the engine is worn or not working right. It’s about confirming what’s happening in the engine, not just reading codes.
Engine mechanical analysis focuses on diagnosing the engine’s physical health—how well internal components are working—using test data and measurements. In a modern shop, this often pairs mechanical checks with electrical waveform testing to separate mechanical faults from sensor/ignition/fuel issues.
fuel systems
"engine mechanical analysis, ignition, fuel systems, definitely"
Fuel system is how the car delivers fuel to the engine. If fuel pressure or injector behavior is off, the engine can hesitate, misfire, or lose power.
Fuel systems in diagnostics cover how fuel is delivered and controlled—pump/pressure regulation, injectors, and related control signals. Shops use waveform and pressure/flow checks to determine whether drivability issues come from fuel delivery/control rather than ignition or mechanical problems.
communications
"ignition, fuel systems, definitely what they call communications. Because communication interpretation is starting to change dramatically."
Modern cars have computers that talk to each other. “Communications” means the messages traveling between modules, and diagnostics increasingly depends on whether those messages make sense.
In modern vehicle diagnostics, “communications” refers to how electronic control modules exchange data over vehicle networks. Understanding network messaging is increasingly important because many diagnostic clues depend on module-to-module signals rather than just standalone sensor readings.
General Motors VIP platform
"We did a class today here at TST on the General Motors VIP platform, which stands for Vehicle Intelligence Platform."
GM’s VIP platform is GM’s way of organizing how the car’s computers share information. If the computers aren’t communicating correctly, you can get symptoms that look like a part failure but are actually a network/control issue.
The General Motors VIP platform (Vehicle Intelligence Platform) is GM’s architecture for how vehicle modules and systems coordinate and share data. In diagnostics, it matters because faults can involve how modules communicate, not only a single sensor or component.
OTA over the air updates
"[1409.9s] Because we had mentioned of something [1411.4s] that they call OTA over the air updates. [1415.4s] The average consumer, he'll get a request on the dash [1419.0s] or on the radio."
OTA updates are “wireless updates” that your car can download on its own. Instead of going to a dealership, the car gets new software through its connection and updates itself.
OTA (over-the-air) updates are software updates delivered wirelessly to a car, usually via the cellular or Wi‑Fi connection. Instead of booking a visit to a dealership, the car can receive new firmware that changes how systems behave or adds features.
programming on a consistent basis
"[1427.4s] A lot of technicians, very good technicians [1429.9s] are concerned, well, how will this affect my business? [1433.0s] I do programming on a consistent basis. [1435.9s] Customer doesn't have to go to the dealership for any of that."
Here, “programming” means updating the car’s computer software. The idea is that shops may need a regular process for handling these updates as they come in.
In this context, “programming” means updating or reconfiguring the car’s electronic control units (ECUs) with new software. Doing it consistently implies a workflow where technicians manage ongoing updates rather than treating software changes as one-off repairs.
keeping it current
"[1445.6s] It's just going to keep it whatever current means. [1448.7s] Well, there's a lot to be said for keeping it current. [1452.6s] And for them to be able to do that over the air [1456.6s] as they say, I think that's a significant moving"
“Keeping it current” refers to maintaining the latest available software/firmware versions across the vehicle. While it may not fix a specific mechanical fault, newer software can improve features, diagnostics, and how systems operate.
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