About this episode
FXR Division #469 swings between culture and wrenching: the hosts kick off with the “M8 FXR craze” and Harley/Indian chatter, then zoom into why FXRs become “forever bikes” through baseline refreshes, not quick fixes. They break down how an “affordable” FXR build turns into real spending, and why steering stability, correct hardware, and careful fitment matter. The conversation also covers tasteful customization, tuning with Thundermax, and how brand lifestyle, sponsorship, and events keep the scene alive.
Big Chris & Justin are two driving forces behind FXR-Division, and in today's episode we're talking the M8-FXR craze and catching up on the past few years of pumping out amazing motorcycles!
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soft-tail motor
"Like there's so many different ways you can do an FXR from, you know, keeping it kind of OG or going all the way out like you have with the, you know, a mono shock and, you know, fit in a soft-tail motor into it."
A soft-tail motor means using a Harley engine from the Softail family in another Harley. People do it for different power/feel, but it usually takes extra work to make everything fit and run correctly.
A soft-tail motor refers to installing an engine from Harley-Davidson’s Softail line into a different platform. In custom FXR builds, this swap is used to get a different engine character and parts compatibility, but it also adds fabrication and setup work.
monoshock
"Like there's so many different ways you can do an FXR from, you know, keeping it kind of OG or going all the way out like you have with the, you know, a mono shock and, you know, fit in a soft-tail motor into it."
A mono shock is a motorcycle rear suspension upgrade that uses one shock instead of two. It can change how the bike rides and is also a popular style choice for custom builds.
A mono shock is a rear suspension setup that uses a single shock absorber, typically mounted centrally, instead of twin shocks. On bikes like an FXR, switching to a mono shock is a common custom upgrade that changes ride feel and the look of the rear end.
seat and exhaust
"I mean, you get a, yeah, you get a $4,000 FXR and the first thing you do is you're $5,000 into it just to get that thing running halfway decent or with some bars of seat and exhaust. [267.6s] Yeah. [268.1s] You know, and then from there it's, you get a bar of the seat exhaust for a thousand bucks."
“Seat and exhaust” are two common upgrades on motorcycles. The seat changes comfort, and the exhaust changes sound and sometimes performance—so they’re often part of the first spending spree after buying a bike.
“Seat and exhaust” refers to two of the most common early customization categories on motorcycles: rider comfort/ergonomics (the seat) and engine sound/flow (the exhaust). The host is emphasizing that even basic-looking upgrades can quickly add thousands of dollars to an FXR build budget.
swap meets
"Yeah. Unless you're like hammering swap meets and just like trying to find the goldmine of parts for nothing and then getting lucky, you know?"
Swap meets are informal parts markets where people buy and sell used components. The host mentions “hammering swap meets” as a strategy to find parts cheaply for older bikes, but it’s also portrayed as a gamble compared to buying from a known-good source.
baseline
"Well, that's the age old thing about the FXR is that if you do put all that money into it and just get it back to baseline, you know, charging system, battery, you know, brake, fluid, brake, flying, like the things, the main is that you take that all in there fucking pretty reliable."
“Baseline” means getting the bike back to a solid, dependable starting point. Instead of just patching one problem, you fix the important stuff so it runs right long-term.
“Baseline” here means returning the bike to a known-good, standard operating condition by addressing the key wear items and system health issues. The hosts argue that spending money up front to reach that baseline is what makes the FXR “pretty reliable” afterward.
charging systems
"Well, that's the age old thing about the FXR is that if you do put all that money into it and just get it back to baseline, you know, charging system, battery, you know, brake, fluid, brake, flying, like the things, the main is that you take that all in there fucking pretty reliable."
The charging system is what keeps the battery charged while the bike is running. If it breaks, the bike can act like it has a dead battery even if the battery is new.
The charging system is the motorcycle’s electrical system that generates power while the engine is running and keeps the battery charged. If it fails, the bike may start poorly or die while riding, which is why the hosts list it as a key “baseline” item on an FXR.
battery
"Well, that's the age old thing about the FXR is that if you do put all that money into it and just get it back to baseline, you know, charging system, battery, you know, brake, fluid, brake, flying, like the things, the main is that you take that all in there fucking pretty reliable."
The battery is the part that provides electricity to start the bike and run its electrical stuff. If the bike’s charging system is failing, even a new battery might not last.
The battery stores electrical energy and powers the motorcycle’s electronics and starter. In this segment, they treat the battery as part of the “baseline” refresh—because if the charging system is bad, a new battery may not solve the underlying issue.
brake fluid
"Well, that's the age old thing about the FXR is that if you do put all that money into it and just get it back to baseline, you know, charging system, battery, you know, brake, fluid, brake, flying, like the things, the main is that you take that all in there fucking pretty reliable."
Brake fluid is what makes the brakes work by transferring your brake input to the brake parts. If it’s not in good condition, the brakes can feel weak or inconsistent.
Brake fluid is the hydraulic fluid that transfers force from the brake lever/pedal to the brake calipers. If it’s old, contaminated, or low, braking performance can degrade—so the hosts include it as part of getting an FXR back to baseline reliability.
starter fluid
"Oh, they're super reliable. You know, it's the guy that like, oh, I think I can just put a new battery on it. I'm trying to find some starter fluid and now I'm going to rip it across the country."
Starter fluid is a quick-start spray that can temporarily help an engine catch. The point here is that it can mask the real issue, so you might end up with bigger problems later.
Starter fluid is a volatile spray used to help an engine start when it’s hard to crank. The host is describing a risky “quick fix” mindset—using starter fluid instead of diagnosing the real problem (like the charging system or other failures).
rolling the dice
"I'm like, you're rolling the dice, but, you know, it can happen, but it could also like charging system goes out fucking, you know, clutches go out all that."
“Rolling the dice” means taking a chance without knowing what’s really going on. Here, it’s the risk of assuming the bike is fine when you haven’t checked the important parts.
“Rolling the dice” is a metaphor for taking a risk when you don’t know the full condition or history of a vehicle. In this context, it’s about buying or riding an FXR without confirming the health of critical systems (charging, clutch, brakes).
clutches
"I'm like, you're rolling the dice, but, you know, it can happen, but it could also like charging system goes out fucking, you know, clutches go out all that."
The clutch is what lets you smoothly engage and disengage power from the engine to the gearbox. If it’s worn out or damaged, the bike can shift poorly or not work right.
Clutches are the friction components that connect and disconnect engine power to the transmission (on a motorcycle, typically the hand-operated wet clutch). The host lists clutch failure as one of the “you don’t know what you’re buying” risks on an FXR with unknown history.
tearing it all the way down to the frame
"Other times they know exactly what they're doing and we're just tearing it all the way down to the frame and redoing everything, you know, because it's going to be their forever bike."
That means taking the bike apart completely, all the way down to the frame, and rebuilding it. It’s the “do it right” option when you want the bike to be dependable for years.
This describes a full teardown restoration approach: disassembling the motorcycle down to the frame and redoing systems so the bike is reliable for the long term. The host contrasts this with “quick fixes,” implying that deep work is sometimes necessary when the bike’s history is messy.
garage
"it's just been sitting in the garage or whatever they've given them to them"
They’re describing bikes that get stored in a garage for a long time. Later, someone (often the kid) brings it back and gets it working again.
“Garage” is used as a storage location for an older motorcycle that’s been parked for years. The segment’s theme is that these bikes can sit unused and later be revived, which matters for how owners think about long-term ownership and restoration.
parts
"bringing them to us or or calling us for parts because they're bringing them back to life"
Here, “parts” means replacement pieces you install to fix up an older bike. The idea is that people find their dad’s old FXR and then get the right parts to get it running again.
In this context, “parts” refers to replacement components used to restore an older motorcycle back into working condition. The hosts mention customers calling for parts to “bring them back to life,” implying a restoration/maintenance workflow rather than routine wear items.
T sport fairing
"[457.5s] But honestly, that Liberty bike over there with the T sport fairing as the fucking best [462.7s] as the best way to do it, right?"
A fairing is the outer shell on the front of a motorcycle that shapes airflow. Here, they’re talking about using a specific “T sport” style fairing as part of a front-end upgrade.
A T sport fairing is an aftermarket or model-specific front bodywork piece that covers airflow around the front of the motorcycle. Fairings can improve aerodynamics and stability, and in this context it’s being used as part of a front-end conversion on an FXR.
full T sport front
"[464.4s] Get you a nice clean FXR and put a full T sport front in on it. [469.3s] Yeah, the sport from Fender on it."
“Full front” here means replacing the whole front section with the T sport version, not just a small part. The goal is usually better fit/finish and improved front-end behavior.
A full T sport front means swapping the entire front-end assembly (not just one cosmetic piece) to the T sport configuration. This typically includes the fairing and related front components so the bike’s look and airflow characteristics match the T sport setup.
match paint
"[471.6s] The you know, the match paint. [474.6s] That's a nice thing about the FXR is those you can take"
Match paint refers to repainting or refinishing so the new parts blend visually with the existing bodywork in color and finish. It’s a common custom-shop goal when mixing components from different sources or generations.
horsepower
"[487.5s] ...still get the the the performance and the non wobble issues and being able to [493.8s] throw a shit ton of horsepower into that chassis and not worry about it flexing..."
Horsepower is how much power the engine makes. They’re saying the FXR can handle big power upgrades without the bike getting unstable or breaking mounts.
Horsepower is a measure of engine power output, often used to describe how strongly a motorcycle can accelerate. In this segment, they’re emphasizing that you can add a lot of horsepower to the FXR platform without the bike’s structure causing problems.
motor mounts
"[493.8s] ...not worry about it flexing or or or doing [499.6s] weird shit going down the road, tearing motor mounts or whatever else."
Motor mounts are the parts that hold the engine to the bike’s frame. If the bike flexes a lot, those mounts can get damaged or tear.
Motor mounts are the brackets and isolators that secure the engine to the motorcycle’s frame. If the chassis flexes too much under power, motor mounts can be stressed, leading to cracking, tearing, or misalignment.
chassis
"[493.8s] throw a shit ton of horsepower into that chassis and not worry about it flexing or or or doing [499.6s] weird shit going down the road..."
The chassis is the main frame/structure of the motorcycle. They’re saying the FXR frame is strong enough that adding power won’t cause it to twist or flex in a bad way.
The chassis is the motorcycle’s main structural framework that supports the engine, rider, and suspension components. Here, they’re arguing the FXR chassis can tolerate high power without excessive flexing that leads to other mechanical issues.
master cylinder
"like these performance breaks or master cylinder or something from the FXR world that would just really solve a problem on that, you know."
The master cylinder is the part that makes your brake pedal actually create braking pressure. It pushes brake fluid through the brake lines so the brakes can clamp down.
The master cylinder is the hydraulic “pump” that turns your brake pedal force into pressurized brake fluid. That pressure is what moves the calipers or wheel cylinders to clamp the brakes.
150 miles an hour
"108 horsepower and will cruise from here to New York at 115 miles an hour. No problem."
Miles per hour is just a way to say how fast something is going. Here it’s describing how fast the bike can cruise comfortably.
Miles per hour (mph) is a speed unit used to describe how fast a vehicle is traveling. In performance discussions, it helps translate engine power and gearing into real-world cruising capability.
fuel injection rail
"I'm currently building my 2026 roadblood for a long ride to Sturgis and jumping back into the fuel injection world."
Fuel injection is how a motorcycle sends fuel into the engine using electronic controls. It usually makes the bike easier to tune and can help it run smoother when you change parts.
“Fuel injection” is the system that delivers fuel to the engine using electronically controlled injectors instead of a carburetor. Switching back into fuel injection typically means you can tune fueling more precisely for ride conditions and modifications.
Thundermax tuner
"The first must for me was a Thundermax tuner. It's a no brainer when it comes to unleashing some power from your engine."
A Thundermax tuner is a device you add to a motorcycle to help the engine run better. It changes how the bike controls fuel and timing so it can make more power and run cleaner with upgrades.
A Thundermax tuner is an aftermarket engine control module/tuning device used on motorcycles to adjust fuel and ignition behavior. The goal is to improve throttle response and overall power by matching the tune to the bike’s current setup and future modifications.
dyno
"And when adding future engine upgrades, you're making one purchase rather than constant trips to the dyno."
A dyno is a testing machine that measures how much power your engine makes. People use it to fine-tune the bike so it runs right and makes the best power.
A dyno (dynamometer) is a machine that measures engine output like horsepower and torque while the bike is under load. Tuners often use dyno sessions to dial in the fuel/ignition settings so the bike performs correctly across the rev range.
Sturgis motorcycle rally
"And the T-Max team will be set up at Black Hills Harley-Davidson during the 86th Sturgis motorcycle rally, ready to install these tuners right there on the spot."
Sturgis is a huge motorcycle event where lots of riders and companies show up. Here, it’s mentioned as the place where they’ll install the tuning devices for people.
The Sturgis motorcycle rally is a major annual event in South Dakota where riders and aftermarket vendors gather. In this segment, it’s where the Thundermax team plans to install tuners on-site.
Black Hills Harley-Davidson
"And the T-Max team will be set up at Black Hills Harley-Davidson during the 86th Sturgis motorcycle rally, ready to install these tuners right there on the spot."
Black Hills Harley-Davidson is a local motorcycle dealership. They’re mentioned because the tuning company will be set up there to install parts during the event.
Black Hills Harley-Davidson is a dealership location mentioned as the on-site setup point during the Sturgis rally. The context is vendor support—installing Thundermax tuners in person.
RNS motorcycles
"You can always find them on Instagram at Thundermax EFI and their website, www.thunder-max.com. If you're ready to take your motorcycle to the next level with style, performance and quality, this is where RNS motorcycles comes in."
RNS motorcycles is a company that builds custom motorcycles. The host is saying it’s where you go for upgrades that look good and aim to improve how the bike rides.
RNS motorcycles is referenced as a custom-building brand/dealer offering “boldest customs.” In this segment, it’s positioned as the place to go if you want a motorcycle upgrade focused on style, performance, and quality.
air cleaners
"From the classic big sucker air cleaners to the new carbon fiber parts line to bars, risers, wheels, brakes, the list goes on."
An air cleaner is the filter that lets air into the engine. Bigger intake setups can change how the bike breathes and often make it sound different.
An air cleaner (intake filter) controls how air flows into the engine. “Big sucker” style air cleaners typically refer to larger, more free-flowing intake setups that can change airflow and engine sound/response.
Kabuto motorcycle helmets
"Kabuto motorcycle helmets brings Japan's legendary helmet craftsmanship with cutting edge technology that keeps you ahead of the game."
Kabuto is a helmet brand from Japan. They make helmets designed for fast riding and racing, with features meant to help with stability and safety.
Kabuto is a Japanese helmet brand known for motorsport-focused designs and safety engineering. In this segment, the host highlights Kabuto’s helmet tech and aerodynamics aimed at high-speed stability.
wake stabilizer
"With advanced aerodynamics like the Wake Stabilizer and Crest Spoiler, you will slice through wind with rock solid stability at triple digit speeds,"
A Wake Stabilizer is an aerodynamic feature on a helmet intended to manage airflow around the rider’s head. The goal is to reduce turbulence and improve high-speed stability.
crest spoiler
"With advanced aerodynamics like the Wake Stabilizer and Crest Spoiler, you will slice through wind with rock solid stability at triple digit speeds,"
A Crest Spoiler is a small aerodynamic piece on the helmet. It helps the air move in a way that can reduce wobble or “buffeting” at speed.
A Crest Spoiler is an aerodynamic appendage on the helmet designed to influence airflow and reduce lift or buffeting. It’s meant to help the helmet stay steady at high speeds.
MIPS safety standards
"all while boasting a lightweight composite shell with ACT tech and MIPS safety standards."
MIPS is a safety feature that helps reduce twisting forces in some crashes. It lets the helmet move a little compared to your head to lower the chance of brain injury from rotation.
MIPS (Multi-directional Impact Protection System) is a helmet safety system designed to reduce rotational forces during certain impacts. It uses a low-friction layer so the helmet can move slightly relative to the head.
ACT tech
"all while boasting a lightweight composite shell with ACT tech and MIPS safety standards."
ACT tech is Kabuto’s specific helmet safety construction. The idea is to help the helmet handle crash forces better so they’re spread out more safely.
ACT tech refers to a specific helmet construction technology used by Kabuto. It’s intended to improve impact performance by managing how forces are absorbed and distributed in a crash.
triple digit speeds
"With advanced aerodynamics like the Wake Stabilizer and Crest Spoiler, you will slice through wind with rock solid stability at triple digit speeds,"
“Triple digit speeds” means over 100 mph. The speaker is saying the helmet design helps it stay stable and comfortable when you’re going that fast.
“Triple digit speeds” is a casual way to say speeds above 100 mph (or 160 km/h). In helmet marketing, it emphasizes that the aerodynamic features are meant to keep the helmet stable and reduce wind buffeting at very high velocity.
full face MotoGP race helmet
"For the last year, I have been exclusively wearing the F17, which is a full face MotoGP race helmet that has an aggressive profile while having some proper ventilation"
A full-face helmet protects your whole head, including your chin. A MotoGP-style race helmet is designed for fast riding and racing, with features meant to stay stable at speed.
A full-face helmet covers the entire head, including the chin bar, which offers more protection than open-face designs. “MotoGP race helmet” implies a track-oriented design focused on high-speed aerodynamics, stability, and impact protection.
FXR side
"It's a genre thing, too. Like on the FXR side, those bikes were originally built to compete with the the import market,"
“FXR side” means they’re switching to talk about the FXR bikes. It’s a cue that the next part of the conversation is about that model line.
This is a segment marker indicating the discussion is shifting to the FXR platform. It signals that the hosts are about to talk about that specific motorcycle family’s background and purpose.
canyon passes
"[1384.3s] Now they're now they're high performance cruisers, [1387.4s] you know, where you can go across country and and hit canyon passes [1393.6s] and if you're if you're good enough, you could drag a knee and come out of it,"
Canyon passes are twisty mountain roads. Riders use them to see how well a bike handles in lots of turns and changing elevation.
“Canyon passes” are winding mountain roads with lots of elevation change and tight curves. They’re a common test route for motorcycle handling because they demand braking, cornering grip, and stability over and over.
drag a knee
"[1387.4s] you know, where you can go across country and and hit canyon passes [1393.6s] and if you're if you're good enough, you could drag a knee and come out of it, [1398.0s] looking fucking like a rock star, you know, and then fucking."
“Drag a knee” means the rider’s knee touches the road while turning. It usually indicates the bike is leaned over a lot and the rider is riding aggressively.
“Drag a knee” is a riding technique where the rider intentionally lets a knee touch the ground while cornering. It’s a sign the bike is leaned over far enough that the rider is using the available cornering clearance and grip.
fairings
"[1449.1s] They're sleek, but they all have fairings and stuff like that breaks up the [1453.2s] wind, which is a huge difference when you're going long distance, you know."
Fairings are the motorcycle’s outer panels that shape the airflow. They help reduce wind buffeting, which makes long rides less tiring.
Fairings are aerodynamic body panels that reduce wind drag and turbulence around the rider and bike. In this segment, the host emphasizes that fairings “break up the wind,” which matters for long-distance comfort and stability at speed.
big inch shovel head
"[1456.9s] Yeah. Some of the motors that we're using on the torch build stuff [1460.6s] for our big inch shovel head and generator shovel stuff that can keep up [1464.9s] with a big inch Evo or or like a stock M8 kind of ish."
A “Shovelhead” is a Harley engine family. “Big inch” means it’s been bored/stroked to be larger than stock, so it usually makes more low-end torque for pulling power.
“Shovel head” refers to Harley-Davidson’s Shovelhead V-twin engine generation (notably used in many FXR-era and custom builds). “Big inch” means a larger-displacement version of that engine, typically built for stronger torque and highway pull.
generator shovel
"[1456.9s] Yeah. Some of the motors that we're using on the torch build stuff [1460.6s] for our big inch shovel head and generator shovel stuff that can keep up [1464.9s] with a big inch Evo or or like a stock M8 kind of ish."
“Generator shovel” is a type of Harley Shovelhead setup that uses a generator for charging. It’s the charging system style used on some older engine configurations.
“Generator shovel” describes a Shovelhead configuration that uses a generator-style charging setup (as opposed to later alternator-based systems). It’s mentioned here as part of the builder’s engine lineup for higher-displacement “big inch” builds.
big inch Evo
"[1460.6s] for our big inch shovel head and generator shovel stuff that can keep up [1464.9s] with a big inch Evo or or like a stock M8 kind of ish."
“Evo” refers to a Harley engine generation. “Big inch” means it’s been modified to have more displacement, usually to make stronger power for riding.
“Evo” is shorthand for Harley-Davidson’s Evolution (EVO) V-twin engine generation. “Big inch” Evo means a larger-displacement build of that engine, aimed at matching or exceeding the torque and acceleration of other big-displacement Harley platforms.
stock M8
"[1460.6s] for our big inch shovel head and generator shovel stuff that can keep up [1464.9s] with a big inch Evo or or like a stock M8 kind of ish. [1471.6s] But there's no fairing."
“M8” is Harley’s newer Milwaukee-Eight engine. “Stock M8” means it’s basically the factory version, used as a comparison point for performance.
“M8” refers to Harley-Davidson’s Milwaukee-Eight engine family. Calling it “stock” means the engine is in factory configuration, used here as a benchmark for how well the custom “big inch” builds can keep up.
performance baggers
"I think what a lot of the newer the guys that maybe came into the culture [1760.8s] on performance baggers like that was kind of like the thing [1763.4s] that inspired them to want to get into this."
A “bagger” is a touring motorcycle with side storage bags. “Performance bagger” means it’s been tuned or upgraded to feel quicker and more exciting than a standard touring bike.
“Performance baggers” refers to touring motorcycles (often based on Harley-Davidson-style bagger platforms) that are modified for stronger acceleration, handling, and overall speed compared with stock touring bikes. The “bagger” part typically means the bike has saddlebags and is set up for long-distance riding.
road glides
"Fine, have a second bike that offers a different experience than the other bike. [1781.5s] Like two road glides doesn't make a lot of sense. [1785.0s] You know, I mean, you got it, right?"
“Road Glides” are a specific kind of touring motorcycle. The point here is that having two of the same style doesn’t feel as different as having one touring bike and one with a different setup.
“Road Glides” refers to the Harley-Davidson Road Glide line, a touring motorcycle known for its comfortable ride and fairing/wind protection. In this context, the speaker is saying that owning two very similar touring bikes (two Road Glides) doesn’t offer much variety in riding experience.
Evo five speed
"like I have a gold FXR chopper [1792.3s] and then I have a traditional Evo five speed to the Nines [1796.9s] FXR."
“Evo” is a nickname for a Harley engine generation. “Five speed” means the bike has five gears, which changes how it rides and cruises.
“Evo” is shorthand for Harley-Davidson’s Evolution engine family (often called the “Evo” motor). “Five speed” indicates the transmission has five gears, which affects how the bike feels at different speeds and cruising RPM.
sport bike drivetrain
"That's like that's it's a good solid crossover bike, you know, because you're it's basically a a cruiser bike with a sport bike chassis or a sport bike drivetrain."
The drivetrain is how the engine’s power gets to the wheels. A sport bike drivetrain is set up for stronger, more performance-focused acceleration and control.
A sport bike drivetrain refers to the powertrain components that deliver engine output to the rear wheel—typically including the transmission and final drive. The hosts use it to describe a crossover bike that pairs cruiser styling/ergonomics with sport-bike performance hardware.
cruiser bike
"That's like that's it's a good solid crossover bike, you know, because you're it's basically a a cruiser bike with a sport bike chassis or a sport bike drivetrain."
A cruiser bike is a motorcycle meant for comfortable, easy riding. It usually feels more relaxed than a sport bike.
A cruiser bike is a motorcycle style built around relaxed riding posture, comfortable ergonomics, and often a heavier, more laid-back feel. Here it’s contrasted with sport-bike components to describe a crossover personality.
FXR aesthetic
"“...if you want to buy this because it has an FXR aesthetic with all the bells and whistles...”"
“FXR aesthetic” just means the bike is set up to look like an FXR. It’s about the style—how it looks—more than the engine or other mechanical parts.
“FXR aesthetic” means building or choosing a motorcycle to visually match the Harley-Davidson FXR’s signature look. In enthusiast talk, this often implies styling-focused upgrades (like bodywork, stance, and trim) rather than changing the bike’s core mechanical design.
bells and whistles
"“...because it has an FXR aesthetic with all the bells and whistles...”"
“Bells and whistles” means extra features. In this sentence, it means the bike has more added features than the simplest version.
“Bells and whistles” is a common phrase meaning extra features or upgrades beyond the basic version. Here, it’s used to describe an FXR-style bike that includes more than just the core look—additional convenience, comfort, or styling details.
Pan America
"We've got no real assing. [1969.4s] We use this robot or [1973.2s] then our version of the Pan America is completely different motorcycle. [1978.0s] It's kind of hard to compare because this is more the fuel is more sport bike."
The Pan America is Harley-Davidson’s adventure motorcycle. It’s designed to handle longer trips and mixed roads, and in this discussion they’re saying it feels different from a sportier bike because of how the engine delivers power.
“Pan America” refers to Harley-Davidson’s adventure-touring motorcycle line, known for being built as a more road-capable, long-distance bike than a typical cruiser. In this segment, the hosts contrast it with a different motorcycle that’s more sport-bike-like, highlighting how engine character changes the ride feel.
RPM
"Just roll up because I would just lower RPM just more broken, try to go out of it. [2027.9s] He just dies. ... and those bikes are are happy at like [2045.5s] 6500 RPM and higher."
RPM means how fast the engine is spinning. Higher RPM usually means the engine is working harder and making power differently than at low RPM.
RPM (revolutions per minute) is how fast the engine spins. The segment contrasts bikes that run best at higher RPM with Harleys that make their character from lower-end torque.
torque
"You know, but yeah, that that torque is on the Harley. [2066.4s] There's that's what really makes those bikes, you know, ... just having that low end sit down and just [2074.0s] pull you feel, you know, is I mean, there's nothing like it."
Torque is the engine’s pulling strength. The host is saying Harleys feel especially strong at low speeds because they make a lot of that low-end pull.
Torque is the engine’s twisting force that tends to move the bike strongly from low speed. The speaker says Harley-Davidson engines deliver that low-end torque feel, which is why they “pull” even when you’re not revving as high.
twin shit
"It's because we all cut our teeth on on. [2120.0s] Turkey, big twin shit."
A “twin” engine has two cylinders. The speaker is talking about the big Harley-style twin, which usually has a strong, distinctive feel and sound compared with smaller or multi-cylinder engines.
“Twin” refers to a motorcycle engine with two cylinders. The speaker’s “Turkey, big twin shit” is describing a big-twin Harley-style engine character—typically meaning a V-twin with a distinct low- to mid-range feel and sound.
chop
"That chop was there that that grunt of that motor was always there. [2132.0s] You know, so newer guys coming in to having these options"
“Chop” is the rough, uneven sound and feel some engines make. The speaker is saying that even if the numbers weren’t huge, the engine still had that gritty character.
In motorcycle talk, “chop” usually describes a rougher, uneven exhaust/engine sound and vibration—often associated with certain cam profiles, exhaust setups, or engine configurations. Here it’s paired with “grunt” to emphasize the audible and tactile character of the older/big-twin setup.
taller bars
"Yeah, like as far as like the steel [2154.7s] way you sit, sitting position, you know, taller bars."
“Taller bars” are handlebars that sit higher up. That changes how you sit and reach, which can make the bike feel more comfortable and less cramped than a typical sport-bike position.
“Taller bars” means handlebars mounted higher than stock, which changes rider posture and leverage. In this context, it’s part of the seating/ergonomics differences the speaker says make the FXR feel less like a pure sport bike and more like a comfortable blend.
skid marks
"Like there's a there's a little skid mark down the left side of my fucking body on everything that I own that."
A “skid mark” is a dark line left when a tire slides instead of gripping the road. It usually means the tire was sliding for a moment.
A “skid mark” is a dark streak left when a tire slides across the road surface instead of rolling normally. The speaker uses it as a vivid indicator that their bike riding involves enough traction loss or aggressive maneuvers to leave marks.
wind on your face
"But when it comes to the helmet, when you're moving on like 50, 55, 65, 70 miles an hour, that wind on your face isn't fucking blowing your cheeks back and putting your beard in your nose."
At higher speeds, the air hits you harder. On a motorcycle, that can make your face feel uncomfortable and even mess with your beard or helmet fit.
This is describing aerodynamic airflow effects at speed: as speed increases, wind pressure rises and can cause the rider’s face and facial hair to be pushed around. On motorcycles, this can strongly affect comfort and visibility, especially at highway speeds.
six speed
"So maybe if I didn't have, you know, maybe getting a six speed is not the move on a chopper and I could keep it."
“Six speed” means the bike has six gears. More gears can help the engine run at a better speed for cruising, but it can also feel wrong depending on the bike’s gearing and how you ride.
A “six speed” refers to a motorcycle’s transmission with six forward gears. Gear count affects how the bike’s engine speed (RPM) stays in the power band at different road speeds, which can change comfort and how well the bike keeps up in traffic.
gas stops
"So like you get a lot of number of times got the gas stops people thought I think ribs. It does grow."
“Gas stops” are when you pull over to refuel during a ride. How often you need them changes the pace of the whole trip.
“Gas stops” refers to planned fuel stops during a ride. In group riding, the frequency of gas stops affects pacing and how long the ride takes, especially if the bike’s fuel range is limited.
no suspension
"You know, everything was, you know, four speed, kick only, no suspension, whatsoever rigid, you know, you're, you're lucky to make a hundred miles or [2902.3s] 135 miles to a gas stop."
“No suspension” means the bike doesn’t absorb bumps very well. The ride becomes rough and jarring, especially on imperfect roads.
“No suspension” describes a motorcycle setup with little to no shock-absorbing travel. That makes the ride harsh and can reduce control and comfort over bumps, which is why the speaker emphasizes how limited the range and practicality felt.
kick only
"You know, everything was, you know, four speed, kick only, no suspension, whatsoever rigid, you know, you're, you're lucky to make a hundred miles or [2902.3s] 135 miles to a gas stop."
“Kick only” means you start the bike by kicking a lever, not by pressing a button. It’s more old-fashioned and can take more effort to get going.
“Kick only” means the motorcycle is started using a kick starter rather than an electric starter motor. It’s more old-school and can be less convenient, especially when the bike is cold or the starter system is temperamental.
four-speed
"You know, everything was, you know, four speed, kick only, no suspension, whatsoever rigid, you know, you're, you're lucky to make a hundred miles or [2902.3s] 135 miles to a gas stop."
“Four-speed” means the bike has four forward gears. With fewer gears, it can be harder to keep the engine in the “sweet spot” for smooth power.
A “four-speed” motorcycle has a gearbox with four forward gear ratios. Fewer gears usually means less flexibility for keeping the engine in its best power band, especially at highway speeds.
Tib Fib
"I had a [2939.6s] major motorcycle accident where I went down and, and compound fractured my [2944.5s] Tib Fib and had ended up having multiple surgeries and getting infected"
“Tib Fib” refers to the two bones in your lower leg. A compound fracture is a serious break where the injury can involve an open wound, which increases infection risk.
“Tib Fib” is shorthand for the tibia and fibula, the two bones in the lower leg. A “compound fracture” means the bone broke and the injury involved an open wound, which can raise the risk of infection.
hardware installed
"compound fractured my [2944.5s] Tib Fib and had ended up having multiple surgeries and getting infected and having [2953.6s] hardware installed, removed, installed, and then retaken out was like the last [2960.1s] surgery because of the infection."
“Hardware installed” means surgeons put in metal parts to hold the broken bone in place. If there’s an infection, those parts may need to be removed and dealt with again.
“Hardware installed” refers to surgical implants used to stabilize a fracture, such as plates and screws. In the context of infections, the speaker’s later mention of removing and reinstalling hardware highlights how complicated recovery can become.
change the fluids
"And it was just time, you know, it was just time to pull it out and, and change [2997.4s] the fluids and put a battery in it and get it going and fucking kickstart it"
“Fluids” means the liquids that keep the bike working—like oil and coolant. Swapping them out helps the engine stay lubricated and cool.
“Fluids” is a general term for the liquids that keep a motorcycle running—like oil, coolant, and fuel system-related fluids. Changing them refreshes lubrication and cooling and can help prevent wear or overheating.
kickstart it
"the fluids and put a battery in it and get it going and fucking kickstart it and [3002.5s] watch all the fucking rat shit and everything shoot out of the exhaust."
Kickstarting is starting the motorcycle by using your foot to turn the engine over until it starts. Some bikes do this even if they also have electric start.
A kickstart is a manual starting method where you use a lever to spin the engine until it catches. It’s common on many motorcycles and is especially useful when a battery is weak or the bike hasn’t been run in a while.
carburetor
"So I knew it was going to take a little bit like I was, I was happy that, that [3033.5s] always been like a one or two kick bike. [3033.5s] You know, and that was a brand new carburetor and everything that was on there."
A carburetor is the part that mixes fuel with air so the engine can burn it. If it’s new, the bike usually starts and runs more smoothly.
A carburetor is the fuel-mixing device on many older motorcycles and cars that combines air and fuel before it enters the engine. It can be sensitive to sitting unused, so a “brand new carburetor” often improves starting and throttle response.
open face
"It'll be, and I am busting out my, my open face, matching fucking chopper, [3056.8s] chopper guy helmet for it too."
An open-face helmet protects the top and sides of your head but leaves your face uncovered. It’s cooler and lighter than a full-face helmet, but it doesn’t protect your face as much.
An open-face helmet (often called a “3/4” helmet) covers the top and sides of the head but leaves the face exposed. Riders often choose it for airflow and comfort, but it provides less facial protection than a full-face helmet.
swing arm
"And the swing arm is fucking flopping around too. Because of just that crazy design where the motor mount and the."
On a motorcycle, the swing arm is the part that holds the back wheel and lets it move up and down. If it feels loose or wobbly, something in the mounting or pivot is probably worn or not tight.
A swing arm is the pivoting arm that carries the rear wheel on many motorcycles. When the swing arm “flops around,” it usually means there’s excessive play or looseness at its pivot or related mounting points.
transmission
"Because of just that crazy design where the motor mount and the. Transmission and the swing arm are all."
The transmission is the gearbox that helps the engine deliver power to the wheels in the right gear. On a custom bike, the way it’s mounted can change how the bike feels and handles.
Transmission is the gearbox that transfers power from the engine to the rear wheel through different gear ratios. In a custom build, how the transmission is mounted can influence drivetrain alignment and how other parts like the swing arm behave.
push button start
"I feel like it does having all the modern amenities of what you would want. You know, to push button start, get up and go."
Push-button start means you start the bike by pressing a button. It’s a modern convenience that some custom motorcycles add so they’re easier to start.
Push-button start is an ignition system that starts the engine electronically with a button rather than using a traditional key/lever starter. On custom bikes, it’s often added to make the bike easier to use day-to-day.
pans
"And then I went and rode with all these fucking dudes on old knuckles, pans and shovel heads and all their shit was they all had their bikes were starting."
“Pans” is a nickname for an older Harley engine type called the Panhead. The host is listing classic Harley bikes and saying they were all running.
“Pans” is shorthand in Harley custom talk for the Panhead engine family. Panhead refers to an older Harley V-twin design, and the speaker groups it with other classic Harley engine nicknames.
shovel heads
"And then I went and rode with all these fucking dudes on old knuckles, pans and shovel heads and all their shit was they all had their bikes were starting."
“Shovel heads” is a nickname for a classic Harley engine type. The speaker is basically saying they rode with guys on older Harley bikes and they were all running.
“Shovel heads” is shorthand for Harley-Davidson’s Shovelhead engine family. It’s a classic air-cooled V-twin era nickname, and here it’s used to describe the type of older bikes the group was riding.
ABS
"[4018.3s] It just did stop and went to make a left turn to there was nowhere. [4022.2s] Yes, I was on the Pan America. [4024.0s] So it's much like a bike and fucking stops faster. [4026.1s] But even I was like, like, all I did. [4029.1s] Yeah, he had an ABS. [4032.0s] I didn't have any ABS."
ABS is a safety system that helps you brake without the wheels locking up. That way you can usually steer a bit instead of sliding.
ABS stands for anti-lock braking system. It prevents the wheels from locking up during hard braking, helping the rider keep steering control and reduce skids.
power slide
"[4033.2s] I don't attribute that to anything because like riding choppers. [4038.6s] That was our thing, too, is like we'd fucking haul ass up to the light [4041.7s] and just power slide, you know, no front brake, rear brake only. [4045.8s] Just fucking slide in there. [4047.4s] This was just totally something different."
A power slide is when you intentionally make the rear tire lose grip and slide sideways while still controlling the bike. Riders usually use throttle and steering to keep it going.
A power slide is a controlled oversteer maneuver where the rider intentionally breaks traction at the rear and keeps the slide going using throttle and steering. On motorcycles, it’s often done in a way that emphasizes rear-wheel slip rather than front-brake stability.
rear brake only
"[4038.6s] That was our thing, too, is like we'd fucking haul ass up to the light [4041.7s] and just power slide, you know, no front brake, rear brake only. [4045.8s] Just fucking slide in there. [4047.4s] This was just totally something different."
“Rear brake only” means you’re stopping using the back brake and not the front brake. That can make the bike behave differently, especially when traction is limited.
“Rear brake only” means braking using only the rear wheel’s brake rather than both front and rear. On motorcycles, relying on the rear brake can change stability and traction behavior compared with using the front brake.
TwinCamp swap
"And doing that TwinCamp swap, using that service, essentially. [4118.7s] And, you know, also removing the little fucking pivot thing from the front."
They’re talking about a specific upgrade/parts change called a “TwinCamp swap.” It’s basically a conversion where you replace certain components so the bike works better with newer setups.
“TwinCamp swap” appears to refer to a specific conversion or parts swap on a motorcycle platform, likely involving twin-cam components. The speaker connects it to using the shop’s service to make controls and get parts ready for modern bikes.
pivot thing from the front
"And, you know, also removing the little fucking pivot thing from the front. [4124.3s] Solid and the price point like you can't beat it."
They mention removing a small front-end part that pivots. It’s likely part of the bike’s front setup, and removing it is part of how they’re changing the bike’s feel or setup.
The “pivot thing from the front” sounds like a specific front-end hardware component being removed as part of the build. Without the exact part name, it’s best understood as a front-end linkage/assembly that affects how the bike’s front end behaves.
steering stabilizer
"We did the since we did the 49 millimeter front, and we did the steering stabilizer... And then when the steering stabilizer comes off... it's a fucking death trap."
A steering stabilizer is a part that helps stop the handlebars from shaking. It makes the bike feel more stable and easier to control.
A steering stabilizer is a device (often a hydraulic damper) that resists handlebar oscillation. On motorcycles, it can reduce wobble and improve confidence when the bike is loaded, accelerating, or encountering uneven pavement.
49 millimeter front
"We did the since we did the 49 millimeter front, and we did the steering stabilizer... solving all the problems in the front... for a 49 millimeter Dynas."
“49 millimeter front” refers to a front-end component size—most likely the fork diameter or related front suspension hardware measured in millimeters. Changing front-end dimensions can affect steering feel, stability, and how well the bike responds to damping from parts like a steering stabilizer.
neck
"because I said we adapted it so it would work on the FXR frame and the neck the way it works."
In motorcycle terms, the neck is the steering head area where the fork pivots. Neck geometry (like rake and trail) affects steering stability and how easily the bike turns versus how prone it is to wobble.
side plates
"You use the side plates, right? No, I use I'm used all side plates on my FXRs, but this I did the kit from Arnell that does like a model gadget setup."
Side plates are aftermarket or replacement mounting panels/brackets used on some motorcycle builds. Depending on the kit, they can help position components correctly and support the installation of other parts on the frame or front end.
Arnell
"No, I use I'm used all side plates on my FXRs, but this I did the kit from Arnell that does like a model gadget setup."
Arnell is mentioned as the company that made the kit they installed. That kit provides parts to modify the bike’s setup.
Arnell is referenced as the source of a kit used for the speaker’s FXR setup. In this context, it’s likely an aftermarket supplier providing parts that change how the motorcycle’s front-end components are mounted or configured.
two springs
"They run two springs. [4260.1s] There's like a secondary arm."
They’re saying the kickstand uses two springs to help it move the right way and come back correctly. If you only have one spring (or use the wrong one), the kickstand can feel floppy.
Some kickstand designs use two springs to provide the correct return force and damping for the stand’s motion. If someone swaps in the wrong spring setup (or loses one), the kickstand can end up too loose or not return properly.
secondary arm
"There's like a secondary arm. [4262.1s] There's like a little lug that puts tension on one of the springs that there's you'd be surprised"
A secondary arm is an extra lever inside the kickstand mechanism. It helps the kickstand move and lock the way it’s supposed to.
A secondary arm is an additional lever/pivot piece in the kickstand mechanism that works with the springs to control motion. It helps determine how the stand engages and how the spring tension is applied.
little lug
"There's like a little lug that puts tension on one of the springs that there's you'd be surprised [4267.8s] how many 91 and laders are just one spring and guys are trying to figure out why their kickstands"
That “lug” is a small part that helps hold the spring in the right place and keeps tension on it. If it’s wrong or missing, the kickstand can feel loose.
A lug in this context is a small protrusion/feature that locates or applies tension to a spring in the kickstand assembly. If the lug is missing or the spring is mis-routed, the kickstand can lose proper tension and become floppy.
M8 swap frames
"How many, like y'all still read it, like do quite a bit of M8 swap frames for people like on the regular?"
A “frame swap” here means changing the bike’s frame so it can fit the Milwaukee-Eight engine. It usually involves custom work, so it’s not something you do casually.
A “frame swap” in this context means replacing or reworking the motorcycle’s chassis/frame to accommodate an M8 engine conversion. Because the engine and mounting points differ from earlier setups, it’s typically a fabrication-heavy job with more complexity than a straightforward engine swap.
twin cam swap
"It's not, it's not a twin cam swap. It's not a twin cam swap. No. And that's like what people ask us over the years"
A “twin cam swap” means changing a Harley to use the Twin Cam engine. They’re saying the Milwaukee-Eight conversion is different and likely more complicated than that.
A “twin cam swap” refers to converting a Harley-Davidson to a Twin Cam engine configuration (a different engine generation than the Milwaukee-Eight). The speaker contrasts the M8 conversion with a Twin Cam swap to emphasize that the M8 work is more involved and not as straightforward.
M8, combination
"Twin cam, M8, combination. We've done quite a bit. To, to do like a, a photo clip kit, they're all so different"
They’re talking about the specific Milwaukee-Eight + FXR build setup. The important part is that every bike ends up being different, so the work can vary a lot.
“M8, combination” is used as shorthand for the specific pairing of an M8 engine with an FXR build. The key point is that the conversion isn’t one-size-fits-all—different bikes and parts combinations lead to different fabrication and setup requirements.
sheet metal
"So it's universal that what I'm not saving you any time, you can just go buy a piece of sheet metal and turn it out."
Sheet metal is thin metal you can cut and shape. It’s what you’d use to make a custom plate or panel for a specific car/frame.
Sheet metal refers to thin metal stock used for body panels, brackets, and fabricated plates. In this context, the speaker is arguing that a universal pre-cut plate isn’t worth it because you can buy sheet metal and cut it to fit each frame.
paper template
"You know, they cut it out yourself and make yourself a paper template. Like I'm just, I'm selling you something that is, to me is, is useless."
A paper template is basically a cardboard/paper outline of a part. You use it to mark and cut the real metal so it matches the car’s exact shape.
A paper template is a pattern you cut out to match a specific part’s shape before you cut the real metal. In fabrication, it helps you transfer measurements from the vehicle/frame to the sheet metal so the final piece fits correctly.
backbone
"either is there's so many layer on the inside of that backbone. There's so many layers of tubes, round tubes, square tube, flat plate,"
The backbone is the main structural part of the frame that everything is built around. It’s like the car’s central support, and it can have a lot of internal structure.
In a vehicle chassis context, the backbone is the central structural member that ties the car together and carries loads. The speaker mentions layers of tubes and plates inside it, emphasizing how complex it is to cut and fit parts around that structure.
center motor mount
"Can you do those? Are y'all, do you still retain the center motor mount, top motor mount, or do you go to the front?"
A motor mount is what holds the engine to the car’s frame. The center motor mount is the one positioned near the middle, helping keep the engine stable.
A motor mount is a bracket or bushing that secures the engine to the chassis to control movement and vibrations. The center motor mount is the mount located near the middle of the engine/chassis setup, and it affects how the drivetrain loads the frame.
top motor mount
"Are y'all, do you still retain the center motor mount, top motor mount, or do you go to the front? The problem with the, with retaining the top motor mount is with the throttle body and all the fuel injection stuff,"
A top motor mount is the engine’s support point near the top of the mounting area. It can be tricky to fit around other parts like the throttle and fuel lines.
The top motor mount is the engine mounting point located higher in the chassis/engine bay. The speaker is weighing it against a front mount because components like the throttle body and fuel rail interfere with how the mount and link can be packaged.
fuel rail
"The problem with the, with retaining the top motor mount is with the throttle body and all the fuel injection stuff, the fuel rail is right there in the way."
The fuel rail is the part that carries fuel to the injectors. If it’s where you want to put a bracket or link, you may have to redesign the fitment.
A fuel rail is the pressurized metal (or composite) manifold that distributes fuel to the injectors. Because it sits in a specific spot on the engine, it can interfere with mounting hardware and require a different mount/link placement.
throttle body
"The problem with the, with retaining the top motor mount is with the throttle body and all the fuel injection stuff, the fuel rail is right there in the way."
The throttle body controls how much air the engine gets. If it’s in the way, it can force you to change where other parts mount.
The throttle body is the air-control valve assembly that regulates how much air the engine can ingest. In fuel-injection systems, it’s part of the intake path, and its location can affect how other hardware (like mounts/links) can fit.
secondary rear stabilizer link
"And then we have a secondary rear stabilizer link that we put on, like all the twin cam and M8 frames too, that there's a space on the transmission where you can, you can pretty much bolt another stabilizer to"
A stabilizer link helps control how the suspension moves when you turn. A secondary rear link means there’s an extra connection at the back to help the car stay more stable.
A stabilizer link connects the suspension’s stabilizer bar (anti-roll bar) to the suspension components. A secondary rear stabilizer link implies an additional or upgraded linkage to increase rear roll control and stability.
stabilizer bar
"there's a space on the transmission where you can, you can pretty much bolt another stabilizer to come off and we have a provision on the frame"
A stabilizer bar is a bar that helps keep the car from leaning too much in turns. It connects the suspension sides so they work together.
A stabilizer bar (also called an anti-roll bar) reduces body roll by transferring load between the left and right suspension. The speaker is describing how additional stabilizer hardware can be bolted in using available space.
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