Fxr's Forever with Chris #447

What's up everyone and welcome back to the Fast Life Podcast.

It's the last day of the year and I wanted to bring a good one to you guys with Chris

who is an individual who is an FXR nerd like a lot of us are out of the New Braunfels,

San Antonio Austin area and been catching him at events here in Texas off and on for

the last year.

So finally got a chance to really get to know him and definitely want to have him on the

podcast.

So if you're into FXRs this is going to be a great show for you guys.

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Now let's get into it with my man, Chris.

Hey guys, you ready to let the dogs out?

Chris, I've been seeing you run around Texas for a while now, FXRs are always clean when

you pull up.

And then when we got to hang out down in Austin, I finally get a chance to really talk to you

and get to know you.

And I was like, hell yeah, we got to do a podcast.

That's literally the only thing that I usually need to happen first.

I need to feel like if there's a way to communicate with each other.

And then it's like off to the races.

Unless you're like some huge brand where it's like, I'm just rolling the dice.

I hope they can talk.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, for sure.

But they're a brand already.

Yeah, you know, because even if they-

What's their job too?

Exactly, exactly.

But like I said, you've always built really nice bikes.

Like I've talked about it so much in this podcast, how I've struggled with the OEM

look, but there is an OEM look that I think like your white bike probably literally hits

home the best for me.

It's got the right amount of custom on it, so I don't feel like I'm on a stock bike.

And it's got an attitude and a stance and it's just bitchin', you know what I'm saying?

So I really love that bike.

Yeah, that one, that was, that was like the second version of that one.

They're actually kind of the third.

I've kind of evolved it.

It was originally a 92 convertible with the two-tone blue, the light and dark sapphire

blue.

And so I had that and it was all blacked out for a while and then I just, I don't like

to just get rid of my bikes and get a new one.

And I kind of limited garage space, so I don't have, I can't just have 20 bikes like I'd

like to.

Yeah.

At least not yet.

But so yeah, I just always, I'll just take it and then try to go, you know, keep it,

just do a new version.

And if it's, sometimes it's just a few little things or just simple as paint or, you know,

and I like to do marketplace, so I'll just find stuff too.

Oh, and then the whole process kind of shifts because you get something cool and then you're

like, oh, now and then everything shifts.

And so that's where, that's what that kind of turned into was just random little scores

here and there.

And I was like, oh, that'd be cool.

Yeah.

And I'm like, all right, well, I guess this is going to be a little longer than I've

planned.

It was, it's not going to be a quick little like, oh, let's just get it up, back up on

the road.

Yeah.

And it ended up being back down at the frame and everything again.

When'd you first pick up that bike?

That one was, so actually I got that one.

So when I first moved to Virginia after I left San Diego, we moved out there and like just

that move and everything, there was like some, I had just finished building my, a teal and

chrome FXR that I did at 124, it was a whole thing, but and I built that bike to be like

my forever bike and some things needed to happen.

And obviously the first thing that goes to the toys, you know, the stuff we can make

another one.

So anyways, moved, got that bike and like, I wasn't, I was going to be out of the game

for a little bit.

Just had to make some moves and a friend reached out and was like, hey, got this bike, it's

a basket case.

If you want it, like you get yours.

I know you don't, you're not in a spot right now that's to get a new bike, but he's like

just take it and you can give me a couple bucks at some point whenever it makes sense

for you.

So that was in like 2018, like late 20, like the around the Thanksgiving, I think, nice.

And then it was a slow little process and I just kind of started doing little things

here and there and then it's turned into a full blown like I was, I was just going to

put it back together and have a bike and then my wife actually was like, why don't you just,

if it's already this far down, like why don't you just do it like you want to?

And I was like, dang, all right, I guess I'm doing that.

When they coastline on it, it's like, I'm telling you, if they don't fight you about

it, you take advantage of it while you have the chance for they take that back.

So, but yeah, so then I, it took me a while.

I had a deployment in the middle of that.

And so like the only thing I didn't really do myself was the wiring.

I had like an emu and everything done.

And that's kind of like my Achilles heel when it comes to bikes up as the electrical stuff.

So I had somebody do that while I was deployed.

So I came home to the bike down.

So you technically built that while you were in Virginia?

Yeah. Yeah, I did all that.

And then that's when it was the blue.

And then actually I had it painted right before I left.

Cody Roundtree.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's who painted that.

There's a good scene.

There's always been a good scene over there in Virginia Beach.

We've had some great times there.

Yeah.

And it's just getting bigger too.

It's pretty cool.

A lot of the homies out there kind of doing some cool stuff.

So it's good to see them.

Kind of sucks.

I'm always, I literally, every time I talk to them like,

really how was all this when I was here?

It was getting good, but it wasn't like it is now.

So yeah, it's pretty cool.

We on a bike trip one year, we, we partied there in 2021.

I think we were on our way to New York.

And when I tell you like, we went, they, they moved their bike night to a Monday or whatever.

I think it was the two, it was either Tuesday or it was a Monday and they moved it.

But they all came out.

We went to the bar, then to another bar.

I think I was there.

You think?

I think I'm pretty sure I was.

Yeah.

Cause like usually their bike nights were on a Wednesday.

That's right.

So I think we were on, we were coming to town early.

I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure I was there that night at the bike night that night.

Yeah.

I think we were all playing cornhole and somebody started ripping some.

Cause it's on the side, right?

Yeah.

The cornhole was outside and it was like a little inside bar.

Yeah.

I remember, I can't remember the name of that spot.

That's one when you tell me when you're out there.

I was wondering if you were there that time.

Yeah, I was definitely, if I, yeah, cause I remember, I don't know if I made it to the

bike night when you guys were there.

I think I showed up late and you guys might have been gone or something.

I don't know.

We ended up going to some like bar that was behind like a restaurant.

Like almost not quite speak easy like, but it was kind of like that vibe.

And it was like a fuck dude.

It's been so long and it was a blurry ride there and home.

Yeah.

Plenty of those.

Yeah.

I kind of missed the Virginia scene because like a lot of the guys out there were like real

good buddies and stuff.

So it's kind of, yeah, I love any chance to get back out there.

There's a good time.

Did you ever meet Taylor?

Cause I think I was telling you about him.

He was in Virginia at the time, I believe.

I'm not sure.

He ended up starting that shifter crew when he moved to California with some other buddies,

but they were, I mean, he was on a sporty.

So I don't know if you would have noticed.

I am kind of a snob when it comes to FXR.

I will admit that.

So, you know, I'll take that.

It's understandable.

Yeah.

I mean, that's just my thing.

It is just kind of all I'm really, that's my thing.

So anytime I see an FXR like that, I've met a lot of like had a few friends now,

like from around our area that I've met just because they rolled up on FXR.

And I just like, before they even had their helmet off, I'm like, who's up?

Like, I'm curious.

I like your FXR.

Like, let's talk about it.

That's kind of, I don't know.

That's just my thing, I guess.

I was a dyna bro for a while though.

Yeah.

That's how I cut my teeth.

I was going to ask you.

So like, did the whole bike thing kind of start for you out in San Diego when you were out there?

Yeah, because I got out there.

I think I moved out there in like 2005.

That's when I got stationed out there.

You were Navy though?

Yeah, I was in the Navy.

Got stationed out there in like 2005,

five, six, sometime around there.

Bring yourself just, yeah, just bring the whole thing of you closer.

That way, because when the people start listening to it, like, if you're too far away,

that'll be like, sounds like I'm far away.

Yeah, that's all good.

Yeah, just got out there in like 2005.

And I was, I was broke.

I was a broke E1 not making a whole lot of money.

So I was, my first bike was a sweet Yamaha V-star 650.

Hey, man, it's all I could afford.

It was like 1500 bucks.

I remember I went and picked that thing up.

I was stoked just ripping around.

I actually had never even really like ridden much like in my teens and stuff like that.

I didn't really grow up on bikes and around them.

I just was always into it.

And yeah, so I got my sweet Yamaha and I was running around the streets of San Diego in my sweet V-star.

And then shortly after that, like all my other buddies like started going on deployments

and they'd come home with that deployment money.

And they're like, I've got a sporty and I'm like, damn, I want to, I want to Harley too.

And so I went on a deployment and came back and I got picked up.

I had a soft tail deluxe.

I loved the like cholo Vigla stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

Stuff that I'd still do.

It's just not practical for riding that.

So I had a soft tail for like six months.

Road with a met a bunch of dudes and started hitting the twisties.

And I was like, I can't ride this thing out here.

And so I got a 99 DX from some like club guy.

It was a pretty beat up bike.

It was, but I had a Thunderheader and a Makuni and some T bars and I was in it.

Never look back after that.

And that's when I started like the riding was kind of like, oh man, this is way fun.

Actually getting out there in the twisties on a bike.

That's a little more set up for that.

It was way more fun.

I was like, okay, now I get it.

I mean, just the San Diego is just such a hotbed for motorcycles in general.

And I've really in all my years of going to California, I would always be in LA or North

Cal and never really went to San Diego much.

And then after meeting Taylor again, I just found myself going back there a lot more and

actually riding the streets a lot more and being around.

And dude, it is, it's pretty, it's pretty gnarly.

How many bikes are down there?

That's kind of like what got me into like the whole like customized stuff too.

Obviously everybody out there has like, nobody has a stock bike.

Everybody's stuff's clean.

Like once you get into the scene a little bit, everybody's got something going on.

So you're kind of get that like, well, I got to, you know, I got to have something

like kind of cool too at least.

And then I just got bit by it real bad.

I always said that like the buddy Heath Pinter from a settlement, he made a comment once

and it kind of always stuck with me.

But it was like, it's like people in, in SoCal just build really clean bikes.

Like they're always like dialed really nice and, you know, like really meticulous, right?

And he's like, a lot of the country just doesn't have that.

Like they don't build to that quality.

And it's a generalization, not an accusation, right?

But I also was like, well, here's the deal.

I had to ride my bike from Texas here and I'm sorry the bugs got on the frame and in

the events of the, right?

And you rode 10 miles to Born Free.

Yeah, yeah, you had to wash it every night.

Yeah, exactly.

No, I, I mean, I would, I would definitely say I was guilty of that when I lived there.

Like yeah, in that little like Southern California bubble and you just don't really

You don't have to go.

Well, that was the best part.

Like 10 minutes from my back, you know, from my garage, I had some of the dopest riding

that you didn't have and it's just right there all day.

What part of San Diego were you in?

Amazing.

I was all over and in San Diego.

I lived in like down in Imperial Beach.

I lived in PB for a bunch of times.

I lived up in Claremont, out in East County, out in the Santy, like a home area.

Like so a little bit everywhere.

I just moved around every, pretty much every year, whenever the lease was up, we'd like

get a new spot, whichever homies wanted to roll with to the next five and get some

new ones and whatever.

And yeah, and then just, yeah, we just, every day, we just get off work.

We'd ride to work.

There was, I think there was a period of time like three years, I didn't even own a car.

I just rode to work.

Yeah, that was my car.

I just had, we had, we all had bikes and we just rode every day.

And we'd like get off work, take the long way, AKA take the twisties home.

And yeah, but yeah, that's all we did, just eat, sleep and ride.

What a little time we had because it was either, we were always on that.

Well, I feel like out there, like it's so easy to have, like get, get like a, like a group together,

you know, not necessarily have to have bike nights and stuff, kind of like how we were

talking when you first got here.

I know there is bike nights or things like that, but you have, if you have five solid

homies that every time you hop on the bike, you know, every time the garage doors up,

they're all in the garage.

That's it.

You don't think about, man, you know what we need is a bar to go to.

No, absolutely not.

We, that's, that's exactly how it was.

We, I had like a group of probably like five to 10, depending on who was available.

But at any given time, there was at least five or six of us jamming around every night,

just going, doing shit.

And yeah, I mean, they would have bike nights.

We'd obviously go, but yeah.

Now that you say that in that sense, I kind of makes you think like, I guess we really

didn't, there wasn't a lot going on.

As far as like events, it was just, we made our own shit.

Get on the bike and go ride around and see what happens.

You know, our favorite spot was Pacers, the strip club in San Diego, because they had

like $6 pictures of Coors Light.

Damn.

And which like, and my wife's like, yeah, sure, I bet.

I'm like, no, really, like that was the best part.

Like we'd go there for $6 pictures.

I mean, granted the scenery wasn't terrible either, but I mean, who doesn't want to

look at some butt cheeks and drink beers that are cheap.

Like that's a good time to me.

After we just rode, you know, 250, 300 miles of just the dopest back roads.

Yeah.

And you know, and then you go finish the day off with tearing out some titties and drinking

some beers, like, you know, some bluey rides home.

Oh, it's, it's, you're drinking what mountain water.

So it's not that bad.

You can drink like 20 of those.

You don't even break the bank either.

I think all the, all the chopper dudes call them a cruise control beers, I think is what

they call them.

It's like they're drinking, but they're really not drinking.

Yeah.

So you're on, you graduate to the DX.

What's the next, like, what's the, like the, the moment that's like, you know what,

I want to do the FXR thing.

So that was kind of later on.

It was like around 20, so I was, I'll be honest, and I'll even out myself.

I was super anti FXR.

Once I kind of got really big into like, like just got big into the bike stuff.

I was so anti FXR just because of the cult like people that was like about them.

And I just didn't know.

I was just like, man, that's kind of weird.

Like, why is everybody so like, they're just all about it.

And so I was just like, no, not that anti, but I was just like,

I'm doing my little dinah thing.

I liked really loved the T-Sports side a couple of pretty cool ones that I did up.

And, but yeah.

And then I was actually tearing my T-Sport down to build it bigger.

I was going to like, I wanted 150, like I was trying to big motor.

I wanted it to be like crazy.

So while I was waiting to do that, I picked up an FXR pretty cheap for like,

just to have a little bike to ride around while I was doing this,

like little version, new version of the bike.

And then, uh, yeah, I immediately was like, oh, I want to do a couple of little changes

like just to make it mine.

And then that fell into, I just ended up parting that whole bike out my dinah.

I just sold it like in pieces and then used all that money.

And that's when I built the, the teal and tone bike.

And so that was, but it was a, it was just a black like stock,

like just all blacked out like FXR with a Thunderheader.

And I was like, man, this thing's really fun.

And it's like, it was way more fun than the dinah to me.

And they're a little easier to work on the evos and stuff are too.

And like it's, uh, and then the parts, the finding the parts thing is kind of fun too.

That's, uh, that was the other part of it.

That's I traded mid controls for some floorboards and some leather pro bags for some police bags.

And so it was like, just a little cool.

I'm like, oh, this is cool.

It's just kind of evolved into its own thing.

And then I was like, you know what, this is, I want, I want to do this.

And so I just sold the other bike, the dinah, and I never looked back.

And I was like 2016, I think.

Yeah. Yeah.

I remember when I met FXR, Mike is he was the first catalyst that it was like, uh,

he brought me an FXR to paint.

And then from that moment on, I was kind of like, I kind of knew about him,

but I, I wasn't as heavy into this like side of the culture at the time in 2016.

And, you know, quickly I met, you know, Chris, Harry, you know, Joe kid and a lot of those hitters,

you know, within the next six months of doing that of my first FXR.

But it, it's up and down for me.

Like I, it's like, I always want one in the stable, you know what I mean?

And that's why like my, my gold bike is like the forever, never leaving.

Um, but I think Joe kid said it best.

It's like, I want all of them.

Like, like I want your white one.

I also want like, like, I think your white one and Renny had this, uh, you know, Eric down there,

Eric Hill, uh, yeah.

So he had that black one that looks just like the, this 92 that motherfucker when he brought,

it was clean.

I was like, dude, I just want a clean bike.

But I just, it's not in my nature to have a stock paint job.

So I tried to make a little version of,

Well, so it's off brand, you know?

Yeah, it is off brand for me.

But I do like, I've been the mad, the hardest shit talker of like factory paint jobs forever.

But now it's, you're like, it's kind of sick dude.

I just like the fact that it's in 20 years, like it's still going to be classic.

Like it's still going to look be like it'll be in, you know, in fad, whatever you want to call it,

it'll be in style still 20 years from now.

Like it's, it was, it was 20, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and it still is now.

You know, shit, people are fighting.

They're paying top dollar for stock now.

You know, as soon as you start messing with stuff, the value actually kind of goes down

on some of these bikes, which is understandable.

Yeah.

I mean, you can find a, you know, a museum quality one, like it's the under 5,000 mile one.

That's like pristine.

You're going to pay stupid money for that now.

Yeah.

We were talking about gas tanks earlier, dude.

They're insane.

Yeah.

That's why I hope I just scour marketplace.

Hopefully some dude doesn't know that tanks worth 7, $800 apparently to someone now.

It's crazy.

That's the only bad thing about FXR is being cool right now.

This is the part, sorry.

Well, they always, man.

In the last 10 years, essentially, or eight years that I've been fucking with them,

it's like that it goes up and down.

Yeah.

I think bike wise, we're in a low right now.

I think that's just because the holidays and the winter time, there's a lot.

I think the economy's got where people are just trying to offload a lot of shit.

So there's a lot of cool shit for good prices right now, which is good for the people that

can still go pick up parts.

Yeah.

Marketplace, like there needs to be like a professional tier of marketplaces.

You know what I mean?

Like you get like a bad kind of like a like an official, what you call it?

Like the verified badge.

The verified.

Right.

It's on your little profile for marketplaces.

Like, oh, this guy's a professional.

Like he's a top tier marketplaces.

You know what I mean?

I bet you if you took marketplace off of my fate, off of my screen time on my phone,

and I probably would have like 20 minutes, 20 minutes.

Like I just, I mean, that's kind of the thing.

If you think about like how like obviously you've been doing this long enough to like

have had some time in Craigslist and Craigslist, like I said, I've got some bikes, some tools.

I've done my fair share of Craigslist.

But when it when Facebook was created, it was like, you can tell right away whether

or not someone was kind of bullshit.

Right.

And there was like a more direct connection instead of like them putting in their number.

It's like a word, a number, like trying to all that bullshit used to go on.

You know what I'm saying?

But I mean, now the only thing I would gripe about marketplace is like the sponsored ads

and the amount of that shit.

Like I would pay money for unsponsored ad free.

I wish they kind of where you could search the whole country for just one specific thing.

Like it just weeds out.

It just gives me that for across the board.

So I don't have to change my location every like 20 minutes to move around.

Yeah, it's like fucking.

I do that shit all day though.

Yeah, it's the hunt though.

Like you were saying, man, there's some kind of like primal thing about it,

where it feels good.

Like I don't even have any money right now, but I already open marketplace five times today.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

I'm not trying to buy anything right now.

But yeah, I'm always looking, but you never know though,

there might be that screaming deal that you have to go get.

Like I just I've had two of those in the last like six months.

Nice.

I've got two like super clean FXRs for less than under three grand, both of them.

And they were just popped up.

And I was the first person that message the seller and like,

because they was like, listen, five minutes ago, I'm like, please have it.

Yeah.

And yeah, I still got it.

Perfect.

I'll be there in like two hours.

I wasn't planning on buying a bike that day, but here I am driving four hours to go pick up a bike.

Yeah, it's out there, man.

You know, there really is deals in the hills.

You just find them or be fast.

Yeah, I'm we're kind of getting saturated up here in Dallas with Brooks,

Robert Cheek, you know, a fucking Ryan.

So there's like a handful of dudes that are got the same addictive qualities that I'm starting to

develop as well.

They already got the badge.

Yeah, they're verified.

But yeah, that it's crazy because every time I would find a smoking deal on an FXR, if I reached

out and hit them up and they said it was already kind of smoking for it, typically it would be Brooks

or Ryan.

If it was an FXR, it's for sure Brooks or Ryan.

But some of the shovel head stuff when I was going through that phase as well would be like Brooks

mainly.

But I'm kind of getting into a phase where I want to like make something of my own.

Like, I don't know.

I don't want to do like I'm not trying to go fall into the chopper scene like that.

But I don't know.

I have this.

I have like a bike in my head that I really want to get out and I have almost all the parts just

kind of sitting around.

Kind of stuff.

I've just stashed away and I just I don't know.

I think I might try my hand at that.

We'll see how that goes.

We were talking down in Austin.

You were talking about kind of having a little bit of chopper fever right here.

Yeah.

And then you went and picked up that monstrosity.

I was like, I hope this is what you were talking about.

No, no, no.

That was a simply strictly for the motor, right?

Yeah, I wanted that motor bad.

I wanted a smooth motor for a long time.

So what's the what's the story behind a smooth motor?

I've heard of it, but I don't know much about it.

Like he was back.

He was like one of those guys who's just like, you know, beyond our comprehension of like

knowledge with the bike stuff, like motor, you know, the ins and outs of that stuff.

And he was making some really cool stuff back in the day, like lots of cool billet stuff.

His all of his like cases and his cylinders and stuff are like some like super proprietary

like alloys that he like made.

It's all kinds of weird shit.

But it's they're just tough to find because there wasn't a lot of it out there.

And I mean, even back in like the nineties and early 2000s, those things were like 10,

12 grand for a motor and stuff.

Like so which, you know, nowadays that's probably what 20, 25 grand for a for a motor.

Yeah, right.

Exactly.

But so it was like big dollar stuff, but that by whoever, whoever built that monstrosity

in 1996 paid a lot of money because there was like a full nest built transmission in it.

Like that spoof motor, all kinds of other than that's primary.

Was it built off like say a Kenny Boy style frame?

It's I don't know what it it's like a it's a it's like a Evo Dyna like drivetrain.

Okay.

So it's got like the Dyna motor mounts in the front and rear.

And it was like a Dyna transmission.

So yeah, the transmission obviously the Evo is, you know, that was pretty universal.

So yeah, I just I wanted that motor.

And so I've just kind of slang in some of the cool, crusty things that were on it

and made my money back already.

Yeah.

And now I get to keep the motor.

So so now I got it's just like the motor in the white bike.

That was a free, a free motor.

Yeah, yeah.

Just same thing found a basket case dude.

One of the thousand bucks for a whole bike that was just in pieces.

And I was like the motor included.

He's like, yeah, everything.

And he's like, I think it's an 80 inch turned out it was a brand new I opened it up.

It was there was nothing in it.

Like it was all fresh brand new.

And it was a 96 not 80.

And I made I almost doubled my money on that one or more than double my money on that

and got to keep the motor too.

So yeah, I love that.

That's the that's the way that's fun.

Like take some crusty shit and make it cool.

I'm I'm still and this is why I can't be verified yet.

Is it I'll get a good deal and have the the ability or the opportunity to turn around

and make some money off of this and still be able to come out on top.

But I always choose the path of doubling down on what I spent and being, you know,

no money was made in this situation.

It turns into a whole new project that new project money.

Yeah, it costs twice.

Yeah, no, definitely.

That's kind of my problem too.

I try to I try to at least make my money back.

I can at least make my money back.

Then I'm like, whatever I do after that's fine.

If I get to keep it and stash a bunch of shit away.

Like but how much of it do you get to this point?

Because like I've wanted to have a stash of nine spokes,

like at least a set or two on on deck all the time.

I have one full rt set that like I kind of need to sell, but I don't want to sell.

Yeah, you know, make sense.

There's like things that like you start like you get some things where I don't want to get rid of.

Yeah, just that will stay.

You know, I mean, unless it's like I really need money, like some shit really pops off.

But yeah, I have a lot.

I'm I'm finding that stage of my life where I'm like fiscally able to do that.

And because I always before that's how I made my bike schools.

I flipped shit and I didn't have a ton of money extra, you know, so just buy some shit.

And it's a lot of it too is like knowing what parts are what because if you can look

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Like I just had I picked up a transmission like an FXR spline shaft.

Dude had it listed as like a four speed shovel head transmission or something stupid like that.

Right. And I was like, that's a 90 and up like spline shaft.

Like I was like, and it was 120 bucks in San Antonio.

I'm like, that's but, you know, he had no idea what it was and I get a good deal.

So everybody's happy.

Yeah.

You know, but like that's just knowing what you can what is what helps, obviously,

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It's the one year it didn't fit or so you know, some dumb shit.

It just but yeah, it is.

That's the fun part.

That was that's what I feel like for me with swap beats.

Like now that I've kind of done a chopper, I know what all these parts are now.

I know where that part laying on the floor on the ground goes.

Yeah.

And so like it kind of it unlocked maybe that tier of shit.

Yeah, yeah. That's I mean, that's what it is.

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My, what I'm looking for is pretty pigeonholed, so it's, I know kind of what,

what I'm looking for and if it, you know, or what works and what can be made to work or whatever,

so that's, you know, that's where you find the good deals with people that just,

oh, I don't know what this is, like just a hundred bucks and you're like, fuck, okay, yeah,

I'll give you a hundred bucks for that. That's when it's like the, like I said,

just kind of knowing and once you can associate those things with where they,

where it all goes and like, oh, I know what that is now. Yeah. Yeah. It's good, good to have.

Yeah, there's like FXR parts where, you know, like I was telling you, like I, I want to have

almost enough spare parts laying around that I could throw together something. You know what I mean?

I think I'm there now. I think I have enough stuff. If I just got like a frame or actually,

I was just talking to Ryan on my way up here. There was a couple of frame, like rollers.

Like you can spin it. Yeah. There was a couple, like full rollers for like a thousand bucks. Oh,

yeah, I think I saw that. It was one in Waco, I think. Yeah. That's the one we were both like,

dang, I was like, I'm just not, I just can't do that right now. It's a good deal. Yeah. And they're

both gone. The one I sent him another one, I'm like, oh, there's another one here. And it was like,

in like Arkansas or something. And they're both gone. What's like, you know, like you'll see a

good deal, but you've also kind of moved that, that circle around on the marketplace. You're,

you're 300 miles away now. And it's still a good deal. Like they're still at $100 transmission,

but it's kind of like, what's your, do you have a threshold of like, I'm not willing to do that?

I mean, if there's definitely like more than like a thousand bucks to be made by that trip,

like I'll drive. Like I drove for that basket case with the 96 SNS, I drove all the way to like

middle Louisiana for that and back. So it was like six, seven hours, one way. And I mean,

paid a thousand bucks, but I ended up making like four grand off of it and got to keep that motor.

So I mean, that's, that's worth it. And I mean, I'm retired. So I don't, I don't really have to

anywhere to be, you know, unless if my kids don't have some shit that dad needs to be at, I don't,

I don't really have anything else going on. So I can, I'm free to just hop in the car and go

drive for 12 hours. If I can go, you know, if it can make me a couple bucks, it makes sense to me.

I mean, if it was only like a hundred bucks or something, obviously I'm not going to drive.

The gas doesn't make sense, but that's when I just steal my wife's car because it's better on gas.

Driving my truck doesn't make sense unless I need the room, the space in it. Yeah.

That's all I've been saying. It's like, uh, we have the old van, the, the, the G 10 van that I love

driving. And it's just not quite, I don't trust it enough to be like, yo, I'm jumping on this and

going to California, but I want something like that. But I don't want to, I don't want to spend

Sprinter van money. You know what I mean? Even though a Sprinter van would solve all of my problems.

I kind of, I'm like, I, every, like once a week I T, I toss that idea around in my head. I'm like,

should I just sell my truck and like it's paid off. I'll just like trade it in and buy a Sprinter

van. But I'm like, do I really want to drive a Sprinter van all the time? Like when that's my only

like truck or vehicle, if I don't steal the wife's car, like I have to drive my van, which

I mean, most of the driving I'm trying to do is either going by parts or bikes or going somewhere

with my bike that I just maybe don't want to ride to. So I don't know. I, I, I fight with that

idea, like at least once a week, like I just get a van and then one of my buddies just got

one and I don't know. It's kind of made me wanted to get it even more. Yeah. They just, they're,

they're cool and certain, like the ones that are really cool are like fucking a hundred grand. You

know what I mean? Yeah, I don't, I don't have that kind of me. I'd have to buy a clapper and make it

like the rest of my things. I buy a clapper and make it, try to make it as nice as I can. I think

that's just comes from being poor. Yeah. Yeah. Resourceful. Yeah. Like if you want to have nice

things, you got to make it nice. I got like four transit money. Yeah. The four transits are still

expensive. I think the four transit is technically a Sprinter van or something along the lines that

I think the Dodge is the one that's a better value or whatever it is. Hell yeah. I'll take any of

them honestly. Yeah. Just when they have the diesel ones and they're like, you'll see the diesel one

that's got like 250,000 miles. And I'm thinking to myself, like, I'm not paying $28,000 for a 250,000

mile anything. You know, like, yeah, those motors might last forever, but does the, does the starter

last that long? Does everything last that long? Yeah. You know, what else is going to go wrong?

What's the seat look like in that motherfucker? That's a lot of fucking ass time. It's a hundred

percent. So I don't know, man. I'm, I'm at it. I feel like the, the van, because I can fit just

about everything that I have currently in the van. I just need to get like some, I need to have

somebody that's like really good with those old TBI motors to just go through it and just pay them

and be done with it and stop trying to do shit myself. Yeah. I, you know, that's another one of

those things. It's like, sometimes you're like, at what point is it just more efficient to pay

someone else to do certain things? Cause I'm just over here to take, and then some things I just,

you know, I just, I don't know. I can't, I don't have any excuses now. I have plenty of time,

so I can't say I don't have time, but it's kind of like peace of mind. And maybe when I say peace

of mind, it's like, if I, if somebody that knows, like say, yeah, somebody that knows these old TBI

fuel injection, you know, V sixes and V eights, like, yo man, this is what it's doing. I know what

you're talking about. Bam, solve the problem. Like that said to me, just throwing sensors and fucking

spark plugs at something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, absolutely. Like you're paying him for

that knowledge. Exactly. Yeah. You're like, I kind of, I could fumble through it and I could

probably have it going in a couple of weeks. Probably the same amount of money that I would pay

someone. I could probably get there, but not in the same time. 100%. But the same money. And what

else are you going to fuck up possibly on your way on your way onto that journey? So I swear to

God, every time I change the sensor or I do something to it to make it better, it seems like

it's better for a day or two than it's worse. And I'm like, man, I, at this point, I mean,

ultimately I'd like to LS swap the whole thing, but that's another thing where like,

being a bike guy, I understand the motorcycle world and I understand cost in the car world.

There's like, there's dudes that want $1,500 worth of labor and there's dudes that want $8,000 and

there seems to be no in between. And that's such a big swing of labor to have someone do an LS swap

for you that I'm like, I need to, and what, and what am I getting for the difference price? Like,

if I'm paying 8,500 in labor to have it done, like, yeah, what are we getting? What do I get

with that? Like, are we talking like shit's going to look fucking like show quality? Yeah. Or is it

like, are we, is this some dude in his garage, you know, that's gonna wires everywhere, you know,

like that? Because I was at one time, I was that dude trying to get my name out there doing crack

head prices and trying to offer like good quality, but that's, I mean, at some point, your first

start now, I mean, you kind of have to, you know, like, I mean, you don't have to, you could just

set your price or whatever, but who's going to give you a shot if they're like, I can go with my

guy, I know it's trusted or this kid over here at the same price. Yeah, exactly. So, so usually you

get the price shoppers, you get them to give you the opportunity to get your foot in the door,

and then you build yourself up as your reputation goes. Because most of the dudes that have money

in this world, they would rather pay for the peace of mind than the gamble for $500 difference.

You know, and I'm that way too, like, I, you know, not that I have $8,500 to spend on

an LS labor for LS swap, but if you can lay it all out and justify it and also like,

you know, it's not going to come into your shop in February and I'm calling you in October,

like, yo, dude, what the fuck? Like, that's another peace of mind thing that I always tell

people like, you're paying for the professionalism of said individual in that world. Yeah, because

I mean, yeah, if I'm paying top dollar for something, I expect it to be done when you told

me it was going to be done, not like you said, Oh, yeah, it'll be done in a month. And then

six months later, we're still having this conversation. It's like my wheels down there,

right? Yeah, right. Exactly. Bro, I would have just paid the extra money to be not a hookup.

Yeah, just for, yeah, I'll pay this money, like give me my shit. This is what I want. I didn't,

you know, it's always weird because like, uh, like usually when if I, if I reach out to a brand

and say, Hey, I'm interested in, you know, running this and the other, I'm not necessarily

asking for, yeah, I do actually, I'm not necessarily asking for a discount. You know,

a lot of times it ends up turning into like one of those, Hey, you know, if you want to run my

stuff, we'd love to have you do it. Just, you know, give us some shout outs, talk about it,

blah, blah, blah. And there's some aspects where like, you know, it makes sense. And yeah,

I definitely didn't want to spend three grand on that. If somebody wants to give me a deal on

something, I mean, I'm not going to say no, but I also, if I want something, I'm going to pay for

it. I'm going to get it. If I reach out about it, I'm willing to pay for it. That's what I'm

getting. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Like, yeah, if I, if there's something I want, I'll, I'll just

get it. I don't know if I have to pay retail and I'm, that's what we're doing. There's a lot of,

uh, there's a lot of benefits of just being an OG customer, like a customer from back in the day

before social media had like any kind of like influencer bullshit, like just a person. If you're

a guy that's like, I want to pay, I want to buy this and I have the money, like you have all the

power. If someone's not doing the job, like you, it's not on you at all. Yeah. But they're like,

there's all these little gray areas when it's like, well, you're supposed to give me six posts

in a collab post. And you know, the, you know, all this, all this weird shit, you know what I'm

saying? When it starts to be like, you're just like doing shit because it's paid for, like you're,

like, I don't know, you're putting out like that false sense of like the value to the part too.

Yeah. Maybe like, you maybe, you don't really believe that it's like in that good. And but

you're like, Oh yeah, they gave me a free one. So I'm going to put it on my bike anyways. Like,

I think when people start doing that shit, like, you don't really like it. You're just doing it

because it's somebody told you to do that. Like, I think that's when I kind of like lose my, it

loses me with the bike stuff. When it gets to like that level, like just, I don't know,

keep all that away. I just, I just like doing it my way. And if that's, you don't like it,

then I don't care. It's mine. That's kind of the good thing about the FXR world is that there's

not a lot of new products in there in that space. So it's like, and when you're building them, like,

I'll be the first one to tell you when you're building one, it's not like brands are like

chomping at the bit because they want you to run their, their shit. It's like, you know,

dude, this stuff's been on the market for 20 years. Like, we're not, nobody's really making,

and we, it's funny too, because like we think in our, like it seems in our head, like the FXR

scene is just like so huge. It's like, how is Harley not like just re popping FXRs already.

And it's like, we're such a small little fucking drop in that bucket that they don't even, I mean,

obviously, it's a part of their, you know, it's a big part of the culture right now. So they're

gonna obviously like focus on that. But it's like, you know, in respect to like the monetary part

of FXRs is like this big to their whole like, yeah, the brand. It's not, it seems value like so

like, how do they not see it? Like it's FXRs everywhere. That's because that's all we. Yeah,

we log in. That's all. Exactly. You realize like, Oh yeah, maybe it's outside of our little bubble.

It's actually, I wonder how like, maybe you can help me with this. It's like,

what is it? Like, what do you think the draw is in comparison to all the other like,

great performing bikes, the new modern soft tails are, they're awesome in every way. The baggers are

definitely nice and in a lot of ways and stuff like that. So like why, like, what do you think,

what's the selling point or maybe not selling point, but like what's a, someone that wants an

FXR, why should they want one of those? You know what I mean? I mean, I honestly, I can't think

of a lot of reasons why you would. It's a fucking money pit and you're going to be working on it

and you're going to be pissed off all the time. But I don't know, they're just, there's just something

about them. They have like, they still have this, this sounds kind of gay and hippy, dippy, but it's

like they have like soul still, you know, it's like still carbureted. It's got a super simple

electrical system, you know, there's no, you don't need a computer to fucking troubleshoot it if

something goes wrong. You, if you have half a brain, you can probably fix 90% of the problems that

are going to arise. Yeah. And I think they're just like cool because you can, like with minimal

mechanical experience, you could probably take one apart and YouTube mechanic your way back together

and you have a running bike that you built, you know, built, you know, it's kind of like a chopper,

but it's like a, if the chopper had a like, you could build like a buy a chopper kit that's like

Legos, you know, like it gives you everything and they all fit together kind of like it should,

but it might need a little tweaking. I think that's kind of, you can, you don't have to be a

fabricator to build a cool FXR. It's like on the, on the instructions below, it says the tools you

need, it's real. Yeah, it'll have like, it'll have like a couple of things for you and it comes in

the box and then you're like, cool. Expert level media. Yeah, right. Exactly. Intermediate level.

Yeah, it's like, you don't have to be a fabricator to like have a cool FXR. You can, you know,

and then I think for me, the biggest thing is like, kind of like most of the people I meet

that are like really about the FXRs are like always about, they're just down to talk about them.

They're like, they're, it's like a little cult. Everybody like, and they'll take care of you if

they see that you're like, not just a, you know, a wannabe, like just trying to like, if you're

not, it's not, you're not just doing it because it's trendy and you're like, you actually genuinely

like are into it. Like I get people hook it up all the time. Like I get, oh, hey, I really need

something that I can't find. You know, I don't want to pay a thousand dollars for it. You know,

I don't want to pay, I don't want to pay Elvis prices. And so, you know, the people will be like,

oh, I got that. Like I'll, I got you. You know, and that's cool. Like I love that.

But it makes sense for some parts, but it's like, hey, I've been really wanting an RT

fairing, a perfect one. You have one. You should give me that at a discount because we're both

FXR bros. Well, maybe not that. I mean, like some, some of the guys are like that straight up.

They're like, yeah, you're an FX guy. I'm an FXR guy. Like, yeah, I'll give you a good deal. Like,

because I know it's going to someone that's, you know, going to value it this almost, you know,

hopefully as much as I do, or like enjoy it the way I would, you know, because it's like that cool

little OEM piece. You're like, I wanted that. I wanted it to be OEM. I could, yeah, I could buy a

repop. Sure. But then it's not OEM. Yeah. Some things I'm, I'm like kind of, I'm, if you're

going to put an RT fairing on the bike, it's got to be OEM, especially if it's an FXR. If it's not

an FXR, I really, to me, it doesn't matter. But if you're going to build an FXR, it needs to have an

R, an OG fairing. Yep. I agree. I'm kind of like, that's one of the things I always do is like,

I love if I'm going to do a T sport fairing on my, like the white bike, like it's got to be OEM.

That's like one of my dream FXRs is an OG T sport front end, you know, kind of like a T sport FXR

if you really like break it down. Yeah. And that's, that's kind of like what my like thing is because

like when I got into the Dynastuff, I had my DX, but then I got that one pretty cool. And then I

sold it and bought another one and I bought a T sport. And then that's, I had three T sports after

that. And that's, that was like, I love fell in love with them. They're just, they're just great.

If I have my, I'll have a dyna in the stable at some point, it'll be a T sport or a defender or

both. I don't know. But those only two that I really would still have now. I've only, I've owned

two T sports. One was just kind of a basket case. And the one that I did own, it's like,

I did like it, but it, it was kind of like it as we've been, as a scene has been kind of a

trending towards more OEM looking stuff. I tried to customize it way too much.

And it just became a custom bike and it didn't really feel like a T sport anymore. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So it's like it, it was an OG T sport with

the fairing and all the stuff was there. And it was original, but because of the way I painted it,

it kind of took away that it was still cool. I liked it. It was, it was my style and flavor

and everything, but it, I didn't feel like I owned a T sport. I felt like I just had a dyna

with a T sport fairing. Yeah. Cause it could have been any other dyna without, unless you get into

it and see, and I go, Oh, it is a T sport. That's why like there's some aspects of like the OEM stuff

where I get it. And honestly, like the way I, when I see a bike, like, like your white one,

and I'm like drawn to it, or I see, you know, Eric's bike that I was drawn to, it's like,

there's, there's something about them. And as a customizer, like I want to know, like I want to

get that, that ability to create that flavor, that soul, if you will, and not be like every time

I touch it, it's just like this perfect, you know, like custom paint job and finishes. And

there's an art to like keeping things kind of on the line. I feel like that's kind of like

something I've been able to like, you know, not to tune my own horn or whatever, but like,

I think that's kind of what I've curated is like this, like an ability to keep it, you know,

dang, that could have been a bike from, you know, that era. But then also you look at it like I see

now as well, like the more modern stuff with, you know, upgraded brakes, suspension, like that

kind of stuff, like that's always, you know, that's kind of standard across the board. But I just

think like, I mean, even like my white bike, the paint's not an actual OEM paint scheme, you know,

but like it looked like it could have been, you know, it's got the standard dual pinstripe with

Harley decal and, you know, it's pretty simple, nothing too crazy. But then you get into it and

there's like, you know, a pearl. So it's kind of like, that's where you can kind of add your flares.

Like, you know, it's from 10 feet, it just looks white. But then you get up there and you're like,

oh, shit, like it's a pearl. And then there's all these like little stupid things. Like that's

kind of my thing is like the dumb little details. It's kind of like it's, it's got an OEM flavor,

but you couldn't get this from the OEM. Yeah, there's like, like every little, the extra details

that like Harley didn't, you know, they obviously they couldn't do, you just can't do that because

it would just, there'd be no, you'd lose all your profit, you know, if you start getting into

like the little smothering, like my chrome bike has like the, he seat hinge and the latch are

chromed, like just a little dumb shit like that. I like to do that, you know, just that extra little

detail, like, oh, he took that extra little mile to go do the little shit that most people just

Well, it's like, when you would go to like a San Diego customs FXR show and born free

on the, on the Saturday when it's all FXRs, like you can really nerd out and find all these little,

like I took probably a hundred pictures this last year because I was in the process of doing the

brown one. And I'm just like seeing all this like little nuanced stuff that these guys were doing

and I'm just kind of blown away because they're not like on these extravagant spikes. It's kind of

like you had to just really notice something off. It's like just like the, like they keep

throwing that term around and lately like the OEM plus. It's kind of like that. It looks

from a quick glance, you're like, oh, it's just like a FXR, but then you're like, wait. Yeah. And

then you get, you go like looking into their bikes and you're like, holy shit, like you went,

kind of went all out. Yeah. And that's kind of when, you know, I spent my entire adulthood

making bikes completely custom. And so I feel like at a disadvantage to have to almost like

untrain myself to see that that way and like go back to like a, you know, a virgin eyes looking

at a motorcycle. Yeah. And like, well, and you got to be able to see it from like your custom

eyes, but like, how can you do your thing, but like not ruin the lines of it? If you know,

like in a general sense, I think that's, I know I, my problem is I have so much going on in my head.

I have probably 20 bikes in my head and I'm like neurotic. I want to get them out. I just don't

have 20 bike money. So every couple, every year or so, I'll just throw one of the ones back on

the lift and give it a facelift and change some stuff up and just the blue bike's about to get

a full facelift. That one's, that's smooth motors going in that. It's going to be fun.

What's the, what's the size of that motor? It's a 104 and I don't like, there's not a whole lot

of info like to get on those like at least online and stuff. And I've called and like the guys,

he's passed like a while back, but his wife still runs the stuff that you can bike the

spoof stabilizers for the dinos and stuff. You can still buy all that stuff. But yeah, it's like

everything I've been able to find and the few people that do have knowledge of them are like,

dude, that thing's kind of even like rowdy. They were like 120 plus like horse and torque,

I know in a 104 because like he did it. He built 95 inch and 104 inches like that you could buy

like their motors and stuff. So yeah, I'm pretty excited to get it all cleaned up and it was fully

polished and everything. So it's going to, I'm kind of debating. I kind of want to chrome the frame,

but I really don't. It's such a pain in the ass. Yeah. But finding a Cromer is pretty difficult.

I mean, I have a good Cromer I use out in California. I just send all my stuff to him.

Is it one of those guys that hop the border? Yep, he does because he has a shop. They have a shop

in in San Diego. They do polishing and powder coating, and then they take everything down to

TJ and do all the good, good chrome. Yeah. But he does all the prep work and stuff like

the polishing is where like, I think a lot of the chrome shine before you dip it. And then that's

yeah, that's really where it all is that prep work. And and then obviously the good chrome where

they don't have to worry about EPA stuff and they can just actually triple with all the yeah,

I did caustic stuff and horrible for the environment, but hey, it looks good.

It's crazy. They outlaw that stuff here. I remember we used to use a company out of California

called Sport Chrome and they would do like the exchange shit and you would get like the best

chrome ever, you know, and then here like there's Cromers, but they don't have the whole process.

So you tighten a bolt down and the chrome's popping off and you'd see like it was a big

flat space, you would see all the sand scratches because they polish it to like 220 grit essentially

hoping the chrome would fill it all in. It's just like it was horrible. So if you were combing like

bolts or like small little brackets, it was like, you know, it's fine. But like wheels, frames,

things like that. You're like, fuck, places won't even touch wheels now either. Yeah,

because it's they don't want to do that prep work because it's a pain in the ass on all the

little each little spoke and the little crevices inside. They're all textured and all that shit.

Yeah, exactly. So they don't want to do all that shit. So most places will tell you like we don't

do wheels. What like we were talking earlier, like there's like a couple of areas where someone

just made some clean nine spokes, 13 spokes, get rid of some of the like things that make it a little

bit maybe not as desired. Like I like a good the way a step lip rim looks. I like that.

And if I could do just nine spokes, 13 spokes, something like that, a seven spoke that we were

talking with the new metal stuff, like, I don't know why nobody's like, I feel like

people are paying almost the wheel costs for OEM. I mean, I guess nine spokes and stuff are pretty

easy to come by, but you get into like the thunderstorms and like the lightning stars and

like all those other weird one off ones, like people are paying two, three grand for those.

So why not make some like cool shit that and then if you have like some cool billet, it's like,

oh, it looks OEM, but again, it's that whole little still looks stock, but then once you get into

it, you're like, oh, wait, I feel like a like a nine spoke, like you're talking about these wheels,

they really won't go out of style. So let's say in 10 years when maybe everybody's on like,

you know, real fire bikes, yeah, right? Like they still kind of the wheels still kind of

look good. Yeah, I don't again, I mean, they were cool when the bikes fucking came out in the

fucking 80s and 90s. And here we are 30 years later, people are scrambling to find them.

You know, the wheels that I do kind of like have like,

not quite a hard on, but like definitely getting shoved up about is like those old RC

component style that were like the sheet metal looking ones. I have a like, well, like the PM

chicane. Yeah, like those older style. Because they weren't quite billet wheels back in the

day. They were there. It's their spun aluminum. That's right. Yeah. Okay. So there, if you look

at them, the center, the seam right down the middle of it is welded, fucking TIG welded.

So they're just welded that wheel together. And then that's why they're kind of difficult.

Because if you hit a good pot hole, those things are cooked. Oh, fuck. Because they're aluminum. So

they'll, they'll bend. You got to basically spin two sides of those wheels and then put them together.

And then put it together. They still have to cut them out. They would have to cut the,

I don't know how they did, but it's welded right down the middle. And it's got little hand etched.

Mine are like, my set was like hand, they were made in like 1993 or something.

So I remember back in the early days of sport bikes, that's kind of what it was. A lot of the

wheels were like those. And they're lightweight to my knowledge. Oh yeah, super light. Yeah. I mean,

they're, I mean, I think they probably even lighter than billet, like then a set of billet

wheels. And Oliver cut rate, he just, like he makes some of those. He actually, you know how he

makes rotors, he makes like the nine spoke and 13 spoke stuff. He did a set of the PM chicanes

of like a couple people, a lot of people have them, but nobody makes a rotor for them. So he did

a run. So I was able to snag a set of those. So I think that's what I want to put on like my

little chopper, whatever you want to call it, build. I want to do like an FXR, a rigid FXR,

essentially. That's kind of like, dude, that's kind of, I guess just, I'm just sticking to like

what I like and what I know. It works on a chopper. And I think it'll look, I mean, it'll be pretty

cool. Like, I mean, I'm sure I'm not the first one has done it, plenty of people have, but I have

a little, I got to pee real quick. And then I want to get into the whole chopper FXR conversation

because that's

that's what I want. I guess the dude beef just did it.

Kind of two or two, not last, not this past born free, but two born freeze ago, the bike

that the dude beef spot. Yeah. That one he did his blue one. That one's pretty fucking slick.

Man. So like you guys were talking about the whole FXR thing. I think what it is, it's just

because it's this cult, it's this cult following. And the thing about it is it's, it's got a lower,

lower price of entry, right? You can still find an FXR that's not like ridiculously expensive

because any type of like subculture within Harley, whether it's, you know, if you're a

performance guy, you got to spend a lot of money to get in that group, right? Yeah,

yeah, same thing. You got to spend a lot of money to get in one of those. But like you

can buy an FXR. And I think that's why dinas were so popular too. And they still are is because

you can find a diner or an FXR for a decent amount. Absolutely. I was like, I was like,

I was telling him earlier, I, I, in the last six months, I found like two for under like

one was two grand and one was three grand. Yeah. So yeah, the, you can, it is a lot more appealing

to those, the younger kids that may not have, or they don't want to go to Harley and get a

$20,000 loan with 30% interest, you know, and make the monthly payment. And I think that

that's the thing is you buy that $3,000 FXR. And if you know, you know, so you're in that,

you're in that cool subculture and you're, there wasn't that big barrier to entry. And then all

of a sudden you're, you're, you're not on a sports car, right? You're not on a stock dyna. It's like,

yo, if you know, you're like, okay, that's what's up. Like, and I think that's what's cool too

about the FXR is if you have a bonus, if you show up on a bone stock FXR or a fully done up frame

up, like big dick, everything, you're going to get almost the same, like greeting from everybody.

They're going to roll in and be like, Oh, a bone stock clunker rolling in. They're like,

dang, look at that thing. It's a relic, you know, and then you come in with a, you know,

swinging on everybody. They're like, dang, like that's just, that's hard. So it's like,

it doesn't matter how you come into the game. And, and like you said, with the price point,

you know, anybody can, you can buy a bike off a marketplace for two, three grand,

put a couple bucks into it, learn how to clean a carburetor and you're running around town on an

FXR already. And it's a ride of passage. Kind of like, and then you got to, and you do have to

kind of tinker with it. So you're going to learn your bike. Why wouldn't you want to learn, know

how your bike runs and works and how everything goes together anyways? Because if it does break,

which it's going to, I mean, let's be honest, even new bikes do it. I mean, you can ride,

you can have the newest, but something's going to happen at some point there. It's a motorcycle,

they break. I mean, it's not so much as bad now, but like, I mean, on an FXR, you're something's

going to break at some point. I feel like the first time I built an FXR, the things that like

essentially air quotes broke were the things that I had to learn how to do right the first time.

Like I hadn't, I didn't do it right. So it showed me, Hey, so it's almost like when you ride a bike

after you build it, the road is going to teach you what you did wrong. You know what I'm saying?

And you're going to find the stuff you didn't lock tight. Yeah. 100%. And so all these little

things are like, it's part of the process. You know what I mean? It's like avoiding that. I think

everybody does themselves a disservice of like really truly finding something enjoyable about

motorcycles. You know what I mean? Cause there's a like, I would say 80%, if not 90% of whatever

happens to you on the road is fixable with some ingenuity, a little MacGyverism, and you're,

you can get it back on the road. Yep. Especially when you planned a little bit ahead and you kind

of like anticipated a few things. And so you brought some of the things you might need.

You know, and the, yeah, like you said, most of it is going to be some little shit that you

can probably at least get running again to get where you got to go to put it properly. Yeah,

exactly. And I think that there's, there should be like, I think the reason like I've been able

to have that kind of experience and kind of love for the motorcycles is because I didn't have the

money to have another plan. You know, you're traveling across the country and you have enough

money to go there and back and maybe you can call your mom if you get into a buying, but you don't

have tow money to the next town. You know what I mean? I'm figuring it out. Hopefully your buddies

with you and you can call ahead and find out that Ace Hardware has a nut you need and send them up

there or figure out how to get it down the road some more. Like you just figure it out. And there's,

you know, when people talk about like, oh, the problems is where all the,

the, you know, fun happens. It's like, I get it. Nobody fucking leaves the house hoping their bike

breaks down. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, yeah. And there's, you want to, ideally, you make it

there with, you know, it starts every time you stop and you can get off that bitch and you show up,

but what about this one, right? If like, say you're the dude that everybody knows is dialed,

like, oh, Chris's bikes are always dialed, but you have a problem. Everybody's like, oh,

fuck, man, poor Chris, man, he's a good dude. He takes care of his shit. But if you got some other

dude that never takes care of his shit and it breaks down, it's almost like you're like, dude,

you're fucking apart. It's completely different mentality. Yeah. Yeah. Like, bro, you're killing

the vibe here. Like, but I mean, that's the thing is like, you could have the best dopest built

freshly gone through everything's perfect. You did a full frame up on it and put a thousand

shakedown miles, 50 miles in something could happen. Yeah. You know, I mean,

my, I, I've documented my stories of, of my on the road hardships. And I think that, like,

I think a lot of air quotes, bike builders, um, they, they kind of hide those stories.

You know what I mean? From the public. A lot of times they're like, Oh, well, you know,

our, we built this perfect bike and it just never. And nothing, there was no problem.

Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Show the real side of it. Exactly. Like, I mean, because also

let people make an informed decision. You know, like, if you're going to get into the game, like,

at least know what you're getting into. If you're going to buy an FXR, it's not going to be like

buying a fucking soft tail, like, you know, a low rider S and, you know, it's not going to be that

turnkey. Like you're probably going to have some troubles here and there. You know, you might have

to replace a few things. Like that's just part of it. And like to me, that was the appeal, I think

too. Like that was part of like why I was really into it was just like, why wouldn't you want to

learn some shit? Like I said, like, why wouldn't you want to know how all this works? Anyways,

it's your bike. And there's like a, would you say that you really can't, I mean, you can just

go buy someone's FXR, it's already dialed and ride it, right? I couldn't, I could never, but

I mean, I just, because I think especially nowadays with social media and everything,

like if you buy someone's built up bike, it's always going to be like, oh, that was Chris's bike.

You know what I mean? Like I feel like that if I sold my white bike,

and somebody was like rocking that, but I mean, it's theirs now and they can do whatever they

want with it. But like it kind of would always have that like, oh, that was like, I don't know,

that's how it would be to me. I would have to change a lot of stuff to make it.

Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, you'd be like buying someone's chopper,

you know, and then just rocking that and going to born free and be like, oh, look at my chopper.

That's if you're going to be that person, right? I mean, the guy that bought

the Cori's two M8 FXRs is not really on social media. So he's out enjoying those bikes every day.

See, and that's cool. And that's, you know, like without people buying custom bikes and we don't

have, there's not much, no, I agree. I mean, I, you need him to do it. But you also like, I do get

the point of like, so and so bought that bike. And now, you know, if you buy a show bike and you

want to take it to a show, I mean, that's kind of the point, right? That's the point. That's what

it's, but I mean, if you're going to like build shame, the guy because he didn't build it,

it's different. If he carries himself like I built this bike, then yeah, fuck that guy. Yeah,

but if he's taken this bike, like, oh, my buddy, you know, forever ad built this bike and I just,

I want to keep it out there on the street. Like, yo, dude, that's cool. I forget. It's a mentality,

I think that makes it cooler. Yeah, exactly. I guess it's how you come out. Like if, especially

if it's like a specific bike that may have like kind of, can you think of one bike that was built,

you know, whatever, FXR, Dynad, whatever that somebody else built that you would love to have?

Dustin's salmon FXR. Okay, I love that bike. And I'm pretty sure that was built by big owls.

Big owls. Yeah. Okay. Obviously, Dustin's done a few of his little,

like things that he does to make it better. But yeah, I love that that paint scheme and like

that bike is just, it's just like the right amount of, and that T sport that he sold to the

100th anniversary one. Yeah. That's another one that like those, those kind of like, I feel like

if it's like one of those that's just like so good, you couldn't do anything to it anyways,

even if you got it, like what would you possibly do? Yeah, like how could you make it any cooler?

Because like if you, I feel like if you start doing some shit, you're going to fuck it up,

probably 100%. Yeah. And so I think, yeah, there's, there's a few out there that I,

that I would definitely be like, put that in my stable if I was financially able. I tell you,

if I won the lottery, I wouldn't tell anybody, but you would definitely know. It would be so obvious.

I was dreaming about that, like awake dreaming about that the other day. Like,

is that a good conversation to have? Like, what would you do if you won the lottery in this?

I mean, I imagine it's a very common conversation. I do that shit all the time with my kids and my

wife and shit. We do that shit like once a week. Is that what poor people do? Like,

just dream about having money? I mean, it would just be cool to not have to worry about money.

That would be cool. Yeah. I mean, for sure. If you could just do like, I want that bike,

like just go buy it. Isn't it like, but would that devalue, would that make it not as fun though?

Then if you had to like, if you had that fuck you money, where if you just have anything,

you had enough money that your money, make enough money to just keep doing what you want to do.

Yeah. You could just literally do whatever you wanted all the time and you just,

anything you wanted, you could have anything you wanted to do.

That's what I want to feel like in my head. I mean, I wish I could. I mean,

I'd like to figure out for myself if I like that or not. But yeah, like,

it's a risk I'm willing to take. Like, like just hypothetically, like fuck you money that you,

you fall, it falls. You're like, you win a lottery or some shit, right?

Like I'm still looking for a manual lathe. Oh, for sure. I'm still like, I'm, that's

old BMW, maybe an old Porsche too. Like a bunch of old shit that doesn't make sense.

I wouldn't have any new shit. I don't have no new shit really. I wouldn't have much new stuff at all.

That's what I'm saying. Like I wonder like, I mean, that's kind of where I'm at. It's like,

I would probably get a house that like, I'd have to have a warehouse.

Yeah. So that's the thing is like, I, me and my wife are both, which fortunately I took her to

Oliver cut rate spot down in that long beach. And I'm like, baby, we could do this. This would

be sick. We put a little patio on the roof, a little hot tub up there. Be good. I don't have to

mow any yards. All this space for bike activities, whatever we want, bikes and vans.

But it's like, uh, so yeah, it would be one of those deals where like either AI would try to get

like a, the perfect building in an urban area that we can turn into like everything we want.

Or that perfect mid-century modern house I dream of with the shop in the back with big windows to,

to, you know, I've always wanted to shop with windows a shop. That's like,

it's me. It's aesthetic of the house too. It's like, it's too nice. Like it almost looks too nice

to be like a shop. Like, man, I, I put a post up a couple of weeks ago, like on a story, like

about having a shop with windows and cause like I'm on Pinterest a lot, kind of like

religiously, like between marketplace Pinterest and just seeing if there's another paint job

opportunity on Instagram. And I see these like badass shops that are just aesthetically like

dope, but they'll have like, like a wall of windows that look out into like their backyard.

Something cool. Like, and I don't want to share those photos because I want those to be mine

because somebody out there's got the money to do it. Do it.

You just don't have the vision. He's going to see one of those guys with

fucking money in the motorcycle industry walking around with the shop like that.

I would love to be that guy. That would be sick. And I didn't want to do anything like,

I don't want to work, working shop, like to do shit. I want it to just be for me to tinker.

Exactly. And how sick would that be? Like just like, it would, I feel like that would totally

change the aesthetic of the shop. Like you're, you're mood in the shop. I think it would be

like to have all that, like just like windows looking out to something cool. You just seeing

when the sun's coming up and down. It's just, I don't know that I, I love it. Like kind of slowing

down. I mean, you're, you're from San Diego or lived out there a lot. So the sunsets out there

are some of the most amazing I've ever seen. The only place I've probably seen as good,

if not better was like Key West and I only saw like three of those. They're probably, they're sick,

dude. That's my fucking spot. But like a long time ago when we, and one of the homies was like

going down to San Diego and we were kind of cruising, you know, down, I don't know if it's

PCH still like through like ocean side down. So we're on the beach. Oh, that's yeah, then that's

PC. Okay. So we're on the beach, like cruising down and all these people are just kind of like

driving, pulling lawn chairs out as they park and just sitting there and watching the sun.

Doing nothing, but watching. I'm like, bro, like that's how you don't get cancer.

You, you chill the fuck up and don't, don't stress out. And you just like, I'm telling you,

and just try to enjoy little moments like that every day. And so a window in the shop, it's like

everything's going wrong. You lost that bolt. You lost this, this one stripped out. Oh, fuck.

All right. I'm going to go take this. Yeah. Yeah. Just yeah.

Chill reset. Yeah. I'm trying to slow things down and just, I was actually,

I was just talking about this yesterday with, with some friends and I'm like,

I want to do the triple crown this year. That's my plan. I don't know if it's going to work out,

but I want to, and I want to do like zero if possible. Obviously it might not be possible

sometimes, but I want to know no freeways. I want to be on like back road, two lane,

like 55, just jamming around, stopping. Like I'm going to take like, I'm going to like get

myself like 10 days to get to the jam, 10 days to get home. And then whatever happens in between

is up to the motorcycle gods, I guess. I want to do two, 300 miles a day max. I'm not trying to

set any land speed records doing iron butts and shit. I want to just kind of like slow down.

And I want to do that for all three legs of that. Have you done individually all three?

I haven't been to, I've never been a Sturgis and I haven't done the West coast jam.

You didn't do West coast? I thought you would. And that one.

No, I got into the FXR thing like right as I left San Diego.

That's right. Yeah.

And then I went to every jam that was out in, when I was in Virginia.

Yeah. Yeah. I went to all those jams.

Maggie Valley and all that.

Yeah. I didn't go to Maggie's. That was the, like when I first moved there,

we'd just moved there. So it just wasn't in the cards. And then, or no, Maggie, that one year,

I was still building the FXR. So it wasn't quite done yet. I tried to finish it,

but it just didn't work out.

Yeah. Cause Maggie Valley, it went from Maggie Valley to New York in like 21 or 22.

Yeah. Whatever it was.

I did Maggie Valley in 20 on my roguelike.

Okay. Yeah. I went, I've done, the only jams I've done was all the ones that were in New York.

So I think we've done five now up in New York.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So the 21 would be the first year then?

It was a five or four. I don't remember.

21, 22, 23, 24, 25. Yeah.

Okay. So yeah. And that's, that's where I started those. And so I've ridden to a few.

I drove up a couple of times. I drove up both times from here just because I wasn't,

I didn't have the time to spend that much time on the road. So I just threw in the back of the

truck and hauled ass up there. But yeah, this year I want to slow down and do all of it.

And I'm trying to go out for born free too. I want to kind of, this year I'm trying to do,

I've been saying I was going to triple crown us since I retired. Like every, like I was like,

it's a hard thing to do. The year I retired, I was like, I'm going to do it. But then I like

needed to get, I needed to work and get some shit settled because we were just moving and

getting out here to Texas and everything. So I was like, all right, well I'll do it. I'm going to

do it next year. Next year is for sure. And then like, it's always something. And I'm like, oh,

I'm going to do it next year. Oh, I'm going to do it again next year. I'm like, you know what?

I'm sick of fucking saying that. Like I'm going to do it this year. So we'll see. I mean, that's

I said that every year, but I've got everything lined up for on my end. Like we're like, there's

no, I don't have anything that can prevent me, except for like myself. So yeah, so I'm going to

do it on the white bike. So we'll see. I don't know. I might swap the motor. If you're back,

if you're backroading it and you're not just, and I'm only doing a couple of miles a day.

You're not putting that much stress on the motor, which I don't, I don't really think it's going to

be that big of a deal either way. But like, I, I understand, I understand why the mentality would

be like, you know, it's just because like, with all that custom shit, like all that nest stuff and

stuff, it's like, if I need gaskets, so I'm going to have to pack accordingly, like with some stuff,

like rocker box gaskets, those are special to those head, like, and you have to have them made

through come back. Rocker box gaskets are not going to keep you on the side of the road.

No, no, not at all. But I mean, it would be a, it would slow down my progress if I had to wait

like a couple of days or something over there. Right. Yeah. I mean, there's definitely always

that option too. I guess the get me home type of thing that like, which honestly, like I,

I don't know how you are, but whenever I get enough doing FXR, it's always brand new charging system.

Oh yeah. 100% electric. Yeah. All that's new. That way peace of mind, you know, it's pretty good.

Take one with me. It's not a bad idea. Because most, most, most bike on the road problems are

it's electrical. It's electrical or primary related primaries. Like, you know,

whether like, you know, you put everything together, maybe you don't have a spacing ride

or something's a little off, whatever. It's just, it's usually that a chain, you know, tires,

something. Yeah. Yeah. Flat tires. It's rare. Like, unless you're doing it on like a big

S and S motor, like you really don't have, it's not gonna be. Yeah. Yeah. Unless your motor just

decided to say, I've seen a lot of the 124s not making out of the county line. Yeah. That was

in my teal bike. That's what that had. And honestly, like, man, that thing was so much fun to ride.

But it just wasn't, it wasn't like reasonable. Like you couldn't like, you couldn't really hit the

twisties with that thing. Dude, it was so violent. Like, I remember the first time when it, because

like, it was a full crate when you could buy the full ones with the ignition and everything in it.

So it like, it's based on the hours and when it unlocks the different like R the rev. So that

it comes with the S and S ignition has after certain amount of hours, it'll unlock certain

like RPM ranges. Oh, that way you break it in properly. Yeah. And it's in it. So it was, I didn't

know they did. That's pretty. Yeah, it's part of like, it's the ignition that when you could buy

the full complete motors now, now they're all just like the long blocks. But it came with the

carburetor, full ignition and everything. And those are the ones that had like the two year

warranty because they knew where they were. It was just set in there and go. But yeah,

so it would unlock. And I remember the first time I went and hit the twisties after it fully unlocked.

And like, we were coming out of a turn and I went to hit it like I would when it was like a

little hot 80. And it like wheelied in a turn, like as I was halfway through, like, and it like

the front end just like wait till a cycle or something. Yeah. And I was like, holy shit,

like, it scared the shit. And obviously I stood that thing straight up. I went off-roading. I'm

like, Oh, I'm going to crash this bitch. Like the first week I had that is probably that's probably

not safe. No, it wasn't. It was pretty sketchy. Like, well, no, it wasn't the RPM that unlocked.

It was, I'm saying it was unlocked already. So I went to go in and I went to ride it like I was

used to riding and I wasn't used to having the full power of that motor. And so like I was in it.

And I like ripped on the throttle as I was starting to come out of the turn and it just like lifted

up. Imagine just being in a corner and then unlocks right in the corner. Yeah. You think

you're going to sit and then it just takes off on you. But no, I was like, yeah, it was sketchy,

but like, you couldn't really like finesse that thing. You just wanted to like,

well, I think that in, in all motorcycling that we were talking about this yesterday, remember

about the whole, uh, I think people get so fixated on big power, big motors, big shit.

They don't realize what comes with that. And it's just not practical to enjoy riding motorcycles.

Like it is enjoyment from point A to point B. If you're ripping to a bike night or you're on the

track or, you know, whatever, but like the, the trade off for it all is not worth like,

I mean, like you said, it depends on what you're trying to do with the bike. Like if it's going

to be your like this, that smooth motor stuff, I don't really know if it's reliable. Like I don't,

I mean, the way they're built, I can't see how it's not, but I don't really foresee myself

doing much outside of the state really, like out of town. I mean, I might ride it up here.

Yeah. Maybe that'd probably be the extent. Maybe like Houston type stuff. If there's

something going on, like I will flex bike at that point. Basically, that's what it's going to be.

It's going to be kind of like my, you know, slap it on the table and here's like, this is my, you

know, my bling. It's going to be fully polished drivetrain. Your show bike, not show bike.

Yeah. It's still going to get ridden and I'm going to beat the fuck out of it. But, uh,

yeah, it's more, it ain't going to leave the state unless it's on a trailer probably.

Realistically, um, I might ride it to Sturgis, the Sturgis leg of the, of the triple crown.

If I do that, yeah, I don't know what the rules of all that shit is kind of like up and down

because I, I know that there's like weird rules that exist to some degree from, from what I've

really honestly, like, yeah, I haven't really like looked at the official, like,

I don't know if you have the same bike from what I've read, you can do it on three different

bikes. If you, is what I think I've stayed clarified that one year, like last year,

maybe I think Rob and those guys said something about it. Like if you, if you do it on three bikes,

I mean, I guess that's kind of a bigger flex, isn't it? Like you did it, but then also it's

not the same bike doing, like making that 10,000 mile trek, you know, so it's like,

are you cheating by doing each leg on a different bike? Or is it kind of, I mean,

I guess I look at it from both ways. It is kind of a flex. Like I had three FXRs that made

the leg. I mean, anyway, it's 2000 miles to New York. It's 2000 miles to the jam in the West Coast

one. We were talking about it. It's like, where is the best place to live to be able to do the

jams the most efficiently? Because if you live in like New York, one's super easy, but the other

two are pretty, the other one's 6,000 miles round trip. The other ones, you know, roughly five,

you know, maybe here, we're kind of like at a disadvantage too. I mean, it's too grand to

each direction and then whatever it is, the one thousand, I think, I think if you were somewhere

within like a five to 800 mile radius of Sturgis, you're probably in the best because either side

of Sturgis, you got a shorter ride to that jam. Sioux Falls or Omaha, Nebraska, you're in the good

spot. That's perfect. If you're in Omaha, you're lucky. 80 goes straight to San Francisco and

straight to New York. Yep. Yeah. Just hop right on that one. Go either way, blast the other way

and then you're close to Sturgis. I think for the North, you'd be better. Yeah. I was, so last

year when I rode the gold FXR across the country, originally this was like the whole dream, the

dream originally was to do the, uh, the triple crown on one run. Just never come back. Yeah. I

was going to stay out for the whole summer. I was, that was what I was going to do. And I had,

I think I told you, right? Cause I was the plan that was the plan was to leave and go to the

jam on New York and, you know, just slow roll it all the way until you get the problem was that

like I wanted to go to the, the East coast jam, but I also wanted to be at Born Free Cali. And it

saw, it gave me a week and a half to get across and I would never be back in New York or on the

East coast. So it was like, I was losing a lot of like all of that East coast stability, like

travel time and stuff or like the, you're already up there. So take that time and get,

cause it was going to be like jam to the East coast, do it, set foot in there. And then I

pretty much need to jam all the way to the West coast and then hang out in the West coast for

like a week. Cause basically after Born Free, it's like a week and a half, two weeks. And then,

then the West coast jam. And then it's another two and a half weeks, three weeks until Sturges.

But the big gap is East coast to West coast. Well, no, that was the shortest gap. No, now it's the,

because you have now this, well, originally I would have been able to have any weeks on the

East coast. It would have been, you would have just got there and then had to turn around and go,

and then I would be kind of sitting on my ass on the West coast, just like around for like two,

three weeks to kill time. The time on the East coast would have been fine, but it's because

he had to make Born Free. Get back to Born Free. Yeah. Yeah. I still ended up doing, you know,

NorCal, all the way up to Washington, all the way over to New York, back to Sturges. I essentially

still did it. I just didn't do it in the timeframe. Yeah. I didn't do it. I only, the only thing I

went to was the FXR show in Sturges. So, but the Triple Crown, I think is, is regardless of whether

or not there's some kind of award on the back end, I think simply doing it is like, it's the

challenge of itself. They just started the little buckle thing. So that's, I mean, which is cool.

I think that's kind of dope. But I mean, yeah, I'm not doing it for that anyways. I mean, that'll

be cool. That'll get stashed away in my little key shake. My look at me stuff. But yeah, I just

want to do it. Just say I did it on my bike that I, you know, I built, put together whatever you

want to call it. I assembled, I did it myself and I fixed whatever needed to be fixed while I was

out there. And I, plus honestly, I don't even fuck about all the cloud or the title of even doing

it. I just, it's an excuse to get on my fucking bike and it's going to make me go out and like

do what I've been saying, I was going to do since I started riding. Like that was the whole reason I

got into motorcycles. Me and all my friends, when we bought our bikes, we're like, we're going to

fucking ride around the country and just like, yeah, brother, like that was our goal. And I've

yet to do it like that, like in that sense that I had a little vision I had in my head back in the

day. Like this year, I'm going to try to like at least put half of that, like try to at least

put some of that into fruition and kind of get in, do some riding and get out there.

You know, Joe always said it best when he was on the podcast, he would say,

some dudes have the time, they don't have the money. Some dudes have the money at the time.

And it's very hard to be very aware of your life to know when you do, when those two planes align.

I said, I'm fortunate enough, I'm in a spot, I think this year, everything's aligning that it's

it might, that might those two little vertices might cross on the graph to this year. Yeah.

So we'll see. I'm hoping because that's, it's, I've been like I said, I've been one and

every time like tons of people like, oh yeah, I'll be down, I'll roll with you, I'll roll with you.

I'm not making any plans with anybody. If you want to roll, get your shit, let's go. On the time,

I'll tell you what days I'm leaving. Yeah. And I don't even know what my plan is going to be.

Every day I wake up, I'm just going to like, look at the map and be like, all right, I'm trying to

get up here, like, what's the best route? You know, where can I go? Find some cool spots,

stop. And if I make, if I go fucking 75 miles one day, yeah, cool. Yeah. If I go 500 one day,

because it's just, there's not a whole lot. And I just want to keep riding cool. Like,

I don't have a plan, whatever, whatever, just. Yeah, weather also comes into play. Yeah, if I

got to cut two days out of the way to avoid some shit, like, oh no, like, not that bad.

I need like, I want a good run. I want a good New York city kind of Indian Larry with all the

homies, all the FXR dudes just kind of mobbing the streets. Like I got to experience that in 2020

with like Chris Harry and, and, uh, Clems and all the, the savior dudes and those guys. And it was

like, I'm ruined because I'll never get to experience New York like that, like that with those dudes

and with the city kind of like shut down. And the way it was, everything was, it was like, dude,

it was, I can't even imagine. I haven't, that was the one thing I regret. I never just could make

it to work was the, was the block party. I think they say it every year. So last year, I, there's,

there's a lot of like, from what I've, I've just kind of seen like bits and pieces, but I, there's

a lot of, uh, the neighborhood, they're trying to fight it. They don't, they're trying to gentrify

a lot of stuff. I guess. And it's definitely gentrified. I mean, when I went in 2020, it was

already like, yeah, I mean, it was super safe. Yeah, exactly. And then you have that one day

when like that one weekend when everybody just turns that place into lawlessness. Yeah. But it's a, man,

there's a, there's a part of like, I wouldn't say this cause I know a lot of people really love

that event and I don't want to take this from them, but I think that like some things ending

is, is good. Like the fact that there's, there's probably a lot of people that are going to say

like, man, I got to experience the Maggie Valley East coast jam. It was an experience, you know,

like, and I got to go to it, but I didn't get to experience it. Not on FXR, not staying at the

hotel. I was staying across the street. It was a different, it was, I got to stay up all night

with all the, all the hitters, you know what I mean? But it wasn't the same thing as like,

I was on an FXR coming in my, my little brother, his dumb ass got to experience the Harrison FXR

jam, which was the year that they moved when they went to Arkansas. Yeah. Yeah. That was 18.

Was it 18? Yeah. Yeah. 18. And, and I was actually on, I was going there too. I was on a dyna

though. And the bike I was on got stolen at, I was at HPR doing a podcast and he got stolen

while we were on the podcast. And I had to fly home and my little brother who was, you know,

a year two into riding had to ride all the way home from Indianapolis by himself. But fortunately,

he showed up to the jam and hooked up with all the homies that were there. Yeah. So

I think I was going to try to go to that one. That one was happening, I think when we, or no,

that one happened right before I moved because we did a cross country drive. Yeah. Yeah. That would

have been 18. Yeah. And I went, so it was right before because I moved, I left San Diego July

1st of 2018. We started our drive and we took like 10 days to drive across country. Yeah. This

was right around that time. Yeah. It would have been like, I think it was in like June. That was

early June. That's right. Because or May, May, early June. The next wait, the next, when I was

at HPR, they were, they had built a bike for the Harley thing and they were finishing up this soft

tail, which was the year the soft tails came out. Okay. And they were finishing up that soft tail

to get ready to go to Born Free. Yep. And so it was like, so it was, yeah, so it was June, mid June,

early mid June. Yeah. It was later than it usually is because usually the FXR, the East Coast is like

the last, usually the first week in a June. But this year, actually, it's not the whole,

the whole usually it's like a couple of days that like the third last day of May or something.

Now this, this year that worked out, it's like the whole, it's not, it ends May 31st or so. Oh,

it stays with all in May. Yeah, this year. Dude, it, I don't know. There's, if anybody was to find

FXRs and really wanted to dive in, it's just a great place to do so. But there's like a level

to it though, where it's like, you, you don't want to get so, I don't want to say this because it

do whatever you want. But I feel like there's a healthy level to it of like,

yeah, I definitely have an unhealthy like, like level of, of it. Like for me, like,

it's really like, I just, it's really the only thing that interests me. So that's why I am.

Do you like get online and like correct people? No, no, no, not like, I'll, I'm glad to like,

what little knowledge I have, I'm glad to like, if somebody's asking a question,

like, I'll try to help out, you know, somebody's like, struggling with something, I love that

shit. I'm about to, my little brother, well, my wife's little brother, his roommate, I just

call them both my little brothers, because they're little retards, they're like 21 and like, broke

little, they're like my little broke best friends that have no money. And so I just work on their

bikes for free and help them. He's, he, we built him a pretty cool little FXR that he got, and

then he crashed it like a week after we got it all done. But luckily he got some money from

insurance. So we're gonna, we're about to start a frame up little convertible for him. So like,

yeah, I just like, I like helping that I like doing that kind of shit where I can just like,

help people out, you know, like, I'm not trying to make money on this shit. I'm retired and I'm

fine. My money's good. I don't need to, if I can help you with your bike, you know,

when you're hanging out with the garage with each other, and you're like, that's it. That's it.

Come out with me. I want you to come hang out with me. Like, that's what I want. If you drop it

off and leave now, this is a different experience. You're gonna pay me. You're paying me for that.

Yeah. That, that experience you're gonna pay me money for. Yeah. But if you come over,

bring a case of beer, send the garage, I'll fix your shit. I'll tear your whole thing down with

the frame. And that's how we resorted to find friends, dude. We just like offer our services.

Yeah, free labor. Yeah, I'll give you my free labor. Just come hang out with me, please. Yeah.

Basically, I feel like I'm fucking like a dork like, well, please come hang out with me and

send the garage with me. But like, I don't know, I love that though. I do love it too, man. I

sit in the garage, my wife comes out there all the time. And I'm just sitting there.

I got a TV in there. And I'll sometimes I'm not even doing bike shit. I'm just watching TV,

fucking smoking, hanging out. Like, what are you doing? Like, nothing. Just fucking sitting here,

doing nothing. Yeah. You know, or I'm out there just tinkering with something. There was like a

fucking real or meme that when it wasn't a meme, it was like a real, some dude was like

in this garage and his old lady was like, up his ass. He's like, what are you doing out here?

She's like, nothing. Just, you know, like looking at this thing, like just like that was his one

place to get away from every other responsibility in his life. And he just like was, he didn't

have to do anything. He just wanted to stare at his project or his fucking sometimes I do that.

I'll just sit there and look at my bike and be like, hmm. And then the wheels start turning and I

reality like goes away. And it's like, man, but if if I could get that part and I do this and I

put this paint on here, then you're lost in the sauce room. Yeah, I just sit there and I'll be

sitting there and God help you if I start smoking and I'm just all this stare at that shit. And then

at some point, that whole thought process just stops and I'm just staring at the fucking thing.

You're like loving it, like just enjoying it. Or like right now, a buddy of mine just brought his

bike up. He's having a couple of issues. So I just like bring it up, we'll get on the lift and

I'll figure it out for you. I'll let you know if it's something bad or if it's something simple,

well, either way, just yeah, that's, we talked earlier in the podcast about like when you were

in San Diego and you just had those homies, you know, the garage was the spot. Like I had small

versions of that over the course of time with different people, but it is one of those things

where like, you know, when you're when you're boys and you're at the house with each other and,

you know, homeboys, you know, leaking primary or something's going on where you can like, hey,

let's fucking fix that right now. Yeah, I got a gasket up there. You can have it. Let's let's go

like, I love that shit, but it I always tell the dudes, not everybody's gonna get that though.

A lot of it, not everybody gets that version of me. This is the one thing about the chopper world

that I absolutely adore and love. And I've been trying to like showcase this to the world.

So a lot of the culture that we all the born free culture and all this stuff, a lot of these

factions of people across the country were like groups of homies that all would have like a common

space together and they would become, you know, the, the, the so and so's, not a bike club, not

any of that, but like we have a warehouse. It's like a clubhouse, but it's also where we all work

on each other. Shit. Yep. And we're the, the dingos or wherever the fuck, you know what I'm

saying? Yeah, I'm like, I'm trying to have a little spot like that. Like that's kind of one of my

things. My goals for this year is I want to find like a shop space, kind of like what you got here.

Yeah. Honestly, probably not on this level. I don't need this big. Just I just want to have

a spot where I can get, have a couple extra lifts. Yeah. If you know, it's, it's kind of cool. I'm

in like a place now where like I've had people like reach out like, would you ever consider like

doing a bike for me? And I'm just like, I don't, I wouldn't even know how to like

approach that. It is, it is tough to like figure out how to like charge. Yeah, I don't know. Like,

I mean, I could do that for myself, but I don't know. Like, plus I don't want to have somebody

put their creative input on it. I don't want your input. Yeah. Like, I don't care what you have to

say. Like I want to build what I want to build. And if it's not what you want, then I, I'm sorry,

I'm not, I don't know. I could, that's why I don't think I could do that. Because unless you want

to just give me a check and just let me go and tell me, like, I'll come pick it up when you're

done. Yeah. And that's when you find out what you get. You know, tell me a color. And like we

said earlier, like you want black and chrome or chrome. And then do you want, like, what color

do you want? And then I'll go from there. Like that would be dope. But I don't know. I don't think

I, the same way we talk about the lottery. Yeah, exactly. Like, that would be, I do talk about

like, I don't have any interest in like doing like stuff like a shop that's like working. Yeah. I

want to get like a tire machine and have some little dumb shit. So I can do shit like for myself.

And then if I could make a couple bucks, I want to get like a vapor owner and like just because I

like buying clapped out shit and making it look cool. Yeah, I just bought it. Like for Christmas,

my wife, my mother-in-law got me a buffing wheel and like all that shit. Like, uh, uh, damn, damn,

now my brain just turned off. But the electro, the fucking little cleaners. Oh, yeah. The ultrasonic

Oh, thank you. God, man, my brain went retarded for a second. But yeah, ultrasonic. So I got

for Christmas. I'm like, I'm trying to do like little shit where I can like, I don't know. It's

for me. Break the carburetors down, throw it in there and let it all just shake that shit out.

I'm not doing it because I want to have a shop. Like I want to have a, I want to have a shop that

I can fully function for myself just strictly because I want to buy a clapped out motor on

marketplace and crank up, rebuild it and then have it just because it didn't cost me any money,

except for my time. You know, that's, I want to be at some point to that level. But I'm trying to

find a little workspace somewhere like close to home that I can get on, like have, get on, move

all my shit and have a little bigger space to kind of like stretch my legs out and whatever comes of

that. So that's what I would always talk about this because if you think about it, if you could

find like four or five homies and you all have that $1500 a month, it ain't that much of a deal

because you're actually going to use the spot. But if, if all your homies just drink and they

don't actually know how to use, they don't know the difference between metric and standard,

then yeah, you're in a weird spot where that dude's not going to value this spot as, as much as

for what it is, right? They're like, Hey, we need to stock the bar in the spot, which, right?

Don't be wrong. I mean, that has, that has its place. It has its place, you know, but

everybody can't be the bar guy. Like we need, I would definitely have a little spot to the podcast

I just put out today was with a group out or a photographer that has a, a cool spot that's in

like a four person. They all rent a corner of the shop. And it's in like the, the, a really dope

ass district in Kansas city. And I was in the shop. It's sick. One dude is like a master

fabricator builder. One dude's working on an old school hot rod. This dude's building sports to

choppers. I'm not laughing at you, bro. But no, he sick. It was, it was the good looking bikes.

You know, it's like a whole vibe and the dude's photography is phenomenal. I actually, I, I saw

his work at born free Texas. He was in Kansas city. I fell in love with it. Right. So, but what

they went on with that? Yeah. Yeah. I just reached out. I was like, Hey, dude, I love your photography.

And then I see you're from Kansas city. I'm coming through. And yeah, he, I liked the,

the dude's a rat dude, right? 100%. And he's a lot more than just a photographer in that scene.

But in, in back to the context of what I'm talking about, it's like, they have that kind of space

that I, I dream of that just for the, like, I don't mind spending every waking hour in this shop,

but with no windows and no people, like you realize, fuck, I haven't actually used my voice box

in eight hours. Right. I haven't said, I haven't made a noise. You know,

unless you're cussing at the project, that's not going well. I've heard myself laugh a couple

times. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I, I, and I think that's kind of where I'm like,

you know, like I was saying, moving here to Texas, like when I retired, and that's,

I really went from like working all the time and like having like my homies to coming out here.

And I just like new people through social media and no, like real connections. And then I just

kind of, and I'm not working. And so it's like, it's kind of, I find myself where I'm just like,

man, I just, I'm, I'm finally, and it's also self-inflicted too. I just wasn't doing shit.

I'd be like, man, I should go ride. And I'm like, eh, you know, like I just, I've got down this,

I've kind of went down this rabbit hole for a little while since I moved out here. But I'm,

that's why kind of like I was saying for this year, like I'm trying to like, I'm going to like

try to make that even when I'm like, oh, I don't really, oh, I don't really want to go.

Like just get the fuck up and go, you know, because I always have a good time when I do.

Like I never don't like working out. Yeah. Same thing. You feel better after you do it,

but like going, getting to the gym is the shitty part. Yeah. Same thing. Like I'm always like,

yeah, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to do this. I'm going to go to bike night or

something stupid. And then it'll be time to go. And I'm just like, nah, I'm good. I'm just lazy.

And like I fell down that rabbit hole. And again, I don't really, you don't have that

couple homies that like come to the house and like, all right, let's go, bro. Like,

come on, let's go hit it. And you guys go fuck off and you go hit bike night for an hour. And

then you go off and do your thing. Like, yeah, just go hang out at the like,

it's a good point, man. Like having the dudes stop by. It's like, how are you going to tell them?

No. Yeah. They come by like two or three of your homies on the bikes are like, let's go.

We were like, all right, let's go. Like, you're not going to tell them. Yeah, they're already there.

So it's not like, I'm not going. Now you're like, it's that little push. Yeah, exactly.

If it's up to my vices, like, oh, I'm going to, I got to get up and go. I'm going to be like,

you know, it's like a little easier to just say, nah, I'm good. Maybe next next week. I'll be next

week. There's a, there's a lot of great, that's a great point. I didn't think about that. Like if you,

you think about all the times like you, you want to get up, but it's like, if I, if I knew, like,

I don't know where half the dudes live that are in our group, I just didn't start showing up to

do houses. Like I'm telling you, yo, if it's go, what are you doing? If somebody came to the crib

and I'm like, cause I'm always just in the garage fucking around anyways. So if somebody rolls up

on the bike and they're like, Hey, let's go like, all right, give me 10 minutes. Let's go.

You know, the internet has kind of helped with that a little bit because there have been times

like with work where like things are stressful and it's like, man, you know, we talk about bike

nights not convenient for us. It's, it's like a nice 30 to 40 minute ride into bike night. It's

real easy to go. Like I'm just going to miss it. And it, and I remember when I first moved here,

it was always someone like Kenny or Joey or someone I don't see all the time. It was like,

Hey man, you're going to be a bike night, right? And then you, it's that same thing of the guy

that coming up at your house is like, well, he's like, nah, man, I'm not going. You're like,

all right, cool. And then as soon as you get there, you're like, man, I'm glad I came. Yeah.

Every time, or you, or you're like, at the end of the night, you go home and you're like,

man, I had a good fucking night. Like the other night when we hung out in Austin,

that was fucking fun. I wasn't going to go. Yeah. Like I was just going to go to

fucking the little thing at Cowboy and then I was going to head home. Yeah. And I was like,

ah, and then you guys said, like, oh, you're going to go get food. And I was like,

you know what, I'm ready up here next day. It's two in the morning. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm

riding home like with one eye closed. Like, ah, that was a good night, man. It was, it was,

it was fun. I had a good time. And like I said, that, and that was every bit of the same exactly

we were talking about, I was going to just go home like, ah, fuck it. Yeah. But I'm like,

I'm already up here. It's easier just to stay than it is to go home. And you know, here we are. So

yeah, it's, yeah, there's a, that's the hard part. You know, social media is good to help

connect people, but I think that we've all been social mediaed out to where we don't appreciate

it anymore. Like it, it was a, I appreciated it along like maybe eight years ago, seven years ago,

five years ago, when you would meet someone that was hungry and interested as well and you could

feed off that shit. Now it's like you just, it's draining more. So it's drained anything. And I

don't even know what I would even say it's the, it's not the people I want to connect with. It's

all the other shit that is coming in that I never asked for or followed or want. If that

shit would just go away and just put me back in contact with the world that I chose to be a part

of. Yeah. Then I think that things would kind of go back to like feeling good about being on social

media. I didn't say that's kind of like the double edged sword with this whole thing is like,

it starts out as one thing, you know, like what your intentions are, but then it just kind of

evolves into like this bigger animal that this machine that needs other things to feed it. And

you're like, fuck, here you are. But then also it's like, you know, it becomes like your livelihood

in a way. And then you're like, well, fuck, I have to do it now. And then it kind of burns you out

because you're like, damn, like, I wish I could just go back to like not having to worry about

some shit. And I could just do what I want, like the fun way, like when I was just riding and hanging

out with the boys and we could just fuck around. And I didn't have to go like, oh, I'm going to

have to go do this. I have to go take these pictures or I go have to go talk to this, like

to do this thing like when it's that's kind of why I don't want to have a shop. Because I don't

want this fun shit to go away. I don't want to hate having to go to work on an FXR. Like I don't

want a day where I go out there and I'm like, I really don't want to do this. Like sometimes I'm

like, I'd rather be doing something else. But like when it's like, you're just like, fuck,

when you dread going out to the garage to work on your bike or a bike. Yeah, that's I don't want

that. Yeah. And I feel like monetizing working on bikes would do that. Definitely. Everybody I

know that does it. They're like, yeah, it's not the same. Yeah, I've been very lucky that I've been

able to navigate and stay pretty happy with it. But I'm also like, like very like involved in

riding and being a part of that aspect of it. Like I've always felt like when you stop riding,

then it's just a job. You know, because when I when I started doing podcasts, a lot of the older

heads I would talk to, they'd have built a name and a brand and all this. They they find other

hobbies to replace what riding used to be because because the motorcycle thing is became a job in

their job. Yeah. And so the job is where all the stress comes from. So they don't see the bike

as a place, an outlet of stress. Yeah, it's not like you're sanctuary now. Now you look at a thing

and you're just like, fuck you. I don't want nothing to do with you. Your bike's like, yo,

I've done nothing but make you happy. Right? Like what was that bike? That was the diner.

That was that other motherfucker. Not me. Yeah, no, I've and I like I said, I've kind of fell into

that out here too. Plus, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. We don't have people to go like ride with all

the time like on, yeah, on a schedule that makes sense for you. Like, like Mikey and Dustin,

those guys, they ride all the time. But it's like they're they ride like different times than

work Sunday and like, yeah, because they're like industry guys and like stuff like that. So they're,

you know, their schedules are opposite of like basically most I'm a which I mean, for me, I

don't really have a schedule, but like, I got my kids and shit. So I still have like school drop off

and pick up and like, you know, I got I got some other little things going on. So a Saturday for

you could be a Saturday night into Sunday versus when to look what they do is dope. I'm not talking

shit about that. 100%. But I'm envious. I wish I could do that. I don't want to ride down there

from here on a Sunday and then turn around to come home. Like that's like for you guys,

definitely like that. Like we have nerds that do that shit. Yeah, for sure. He says that because

that's me. I'm the Texas Hills guy. Hey, come on down. I'm gonna do a 600 mile day to go to the

bed. But I don't like they're they can be brutal. No, I want to I want to go down there and do that.

But like when we go out on that ride somewhere, like, hey, we're in Fredericksburg. Like,

we don't we didn't book anything. We didn't like we're just here. Like, all of a sudden we didn't

leave Fredericksburg. We shut down a ball. Like, I guess we're grabbing a hotel room somewhere.

Like, I like that shit. I like spontaneity. Yes, I like the ability to like,

like, I don't like there's a different vibe when you go out knowing you're coming home versus when

you go out and you're not coming home to tomorrow. Or you're just not really sure what the plan is.

Like it could be. It could be. You're probably going to go home. But if something happens,

you don't have to go home. Like those are the best ones. Like spontaneous trips are the best

when you can just be like, Hey, like, yeah, or like to like last not this past summer,

but the summer before that, like just quick spontaneity thing. I was sitting at the house and

it was like the Thursday before born free. And I was like, man, I really want to go to born free.

And I let my son was like, I want to go with you. And I was like, I bet. And like by noon that day,

we were in the car driving to California. Damn. And it turned that turned into like a six day

road trip. We stopped in Vegas. We went to born free. Well, we went to San Diego, spent a day

there, hit born free Saturday. And then we went to Vegas on Saturday night, did Vegas Sunday with

my kid who just fucking bebopped around. And when saw we went to Grand Junction, Colorado, saw my

old man, he lives up there. And then we just kind of slow rolled home. It just, but it was just like,

you want to go like, yeah, okay, cool. And we just went and it was like a dope ass. He was,

you know, there was like two years ago, he was like 10, like we just jammed around the country

on a little quick little, you know, five, six day jammer, like being prompt to hit born free and

I visited a few high school buddies that were all in those spots. And then it was just kind of cool

little, you know, spontaneous thing. Yeah. When I want to, well, sometimes when you plan, you, you

create not by not, not forcefully, like you just naturally create expectations. Yeah. When you

plan, you plan in this like idea to do the jam and you create this fucking like grandiose thing.

And then when it's not that, you're just like, oh, it can kind of bum you out while you're on the

trip because it's not living up to your expectations. Even though what you're doing is equally as bad

ass, it's just that you set up this to be something else. Yep. 100%. Yeah. And that's why with this,

like my attempt to like my potential triple crown this year, I want to have zero plans,

like every day I will make my plan. Yeah. And like, if it works out, cool. And if things go arrive,

whatever, that's why I'm given 10 days to get either direction. If I have to

speed up a day to make up some time because we had some problems the day before or whatever,

maybe we in perfect world, we stay on schedule the whole time. That'd be dope. But yeah, probably not

going to happen. Hey, well, you know, like you said before, it just creates a, it creates a nice,

when I did my little seven week trip last summer, when I was going to do the whole

the one time on that FXR, that golden down there on the 12,000 miles that I did that summer.

The only problem I had was the Deadpool movie came out and my son texts me while I was riding.

I was literally riding. I left Buffalo, New York and I was kind of like riding towards Indian

apolis, but I didn't have a plan to go any, any, whatever. I was like as close as I get or whatever.

Fucking beautiful day. I get to this hotel right on the border of Indiana and Ohio. My son's like,

I saw the Deadpool movie was really good. And I'm like, I land in the spot.

There's a movie theater across the street. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go check out Deadpool

movie. Right. I ride the bike over there, park it. It's a, it's a like 11 p.m. showing. So I'm

getting out at 1 a.m. I get out 1 a.m. fucking batteries dead. I'm like, I didn't start back,

of course. And I look at, uh, I'm on this crowned hill of where the movie theater is and the hotel

is kind of the same distance as a gas station. Well, no, a gas station is close, but the opposite

direction. Okay. So I was like, well, I think I just need to jump the battery because I had

like a little phone charger that I thought was what was killing my battery. Yeah, wasn't the case.

But I got to the gas station and this like, this is actually a funny, so I'm gonna tell the whole

thing. Uh, get to the gas station. I go in hoping they have some kind of like jumpstart kind of like,

I don't know what made me think a gas station would have a jump like it's auto. Yeah, like a jump

or whatever. So I'm kind of there, but there's a lot of like,

shifty people out there. It's fucking 1 a.m. the gas station. They're going in.

Find somebody with jumper cables. Nice. Pop the bike off, get it back to the hotel.

And at the hotel, I park it. I'm like, you know what? In the morning, if it doesn't start,

then I know it's a battery. There's an O'Reilly. It's like a mile down the road, like further down

the road. I'll Uber over there, get a battery, come back, whatever. Um, sure, sure enough,

that's what happened. But when I walked, so this, this like kind of frumpy lady that was my age

helped me out on the bike. Like she had the jumper cables and helped me out. And I was like,

I appreciate it. And I gave, because she helped me out, I gave her a hundred bucks. I was like,

Hey, thank you. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Like I would not be saved me. Yeah,

a hundred bucks. I had a cash band. Well, I get back to the hotel. I wake up in the morning,

go down to my bike and this chick wrote me a note because she apparently was staying at the same

hotel. And it was like, I don't know about you, but I believe in fate. Apparently like I was her

dream guy. I mean, this girl is not, I would not even like, I don't even know. I just wouldn't.

This is not even like, thank you for your, thank you for your service.

You know, appreciate you. But of 12,000 miles on an FXR, which I get it, it's a little bit

different FXR than others, but like not one problem. I only had a battery, you know,

you can't ask for a better fucking trip. Yeah, I swapped that battery out. And that's,

that's a fucking easy day. Yeah, that's, I'll take that. Yeah, I'll take a battery dies.

I got to call bullshit on that though, Jase. What did you not have kickstand problem?

Oh, well, the kid, that's not an FXR problem. That's a custom bike problem. That's a, yeah.

Well, yeah, the kickstand did break in California, but that was that look, my kickstand breaking

issue has happened twice when I've gone to California, but it's not really, that is a

complete error on my end of where we chose to weld the kickstand onto the frame. It was not ideal.

It was not. It was a very weak spot on the lower frame rail. So when you put

the bike with a packed out, like tall sissy bar, that weird, like leverage it's putting on it.

Yes. If it was all like in your saddlebags or you had saddlebags, it wouldn't have put the weight

that is that that big sissy bar makes it like a, like a basically like a torque, right? I had.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's giving you a little extra leverage. So

I left the house with the kickstand bent. Like it had already bent, but as I got further and further,

it kept bending more and more and more. And then when I was in San Diego at my buddy Taylor's house

again, in his driveway, the bike just gave and it fell into his wife's Jeep. And so then I was

like literally either looking for a tree, a pole, a wall or a curb to put my kickstand on

all the way from spending five days in LA and then riding all the way to Reno to my buddy TPJ's

spot to get the kickstand welded on. And that solved that problem all year. And then we get to

fucking, I go to California again this year and same shit. Well, the, the, the mount on the frame

was fine, but the kickstand itself broke. It self broke also while with Taylor. Same dude.

So yeah, his fault. He's kind of like,

he's kind of like a, the dude, if you have an FXR and you're around him, it's going to

fucking break. Yeah. If it can, it will. Yeah. 100%. And it sucks because like he would probably

love this world of, of FXRs and like, you know, having bikes, it, you know, takes a little bit

of effort to, you know, not just financial effort, but yeah, you gotta have, you gotta like put a

little bit of elbow grease into it. Yeah. He would love it, but you know, he's like, he always says

his daddy died so he can have cruise control. Hey, I'm telling you, like, yeah, I mean,

I'm just a glutton for punishment at this point. I would love to have a newer bike, honestly,

but I just, I just can't see that I would enjoy it as much. I like I said, like we were saying,

like there's just that soul and like there's just like the bike itself is just like, I don't know.

If, if it wants to run for you, she'll, she'll give you a, you know, you had seven weeks of

riding around and it was good to go because you took care of it and, but then if you make her mad

and neglect her, she's going to fuck up on you every time. Yeah. They're like women, man. If you

neglect them, they're going to let you know that they want attention. Yeah. Absolutely. 100%.

Maybe I'm getting a war today. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Yeah. It

doesn't matter. It's not about you. I'm not going to start. Yeah. This is us. Yeah. Yeah. There's a,

I don't, I don't have the word yet to explain the, uh,

the enjoyment I have of riding that chopper around. It makes no sense.

See, I, I think that's, I'm like, I'm missing something with like, that's what I'm saying.

I've kept getting an itch to like do something like a little more involved, like a little deeper

than just like my recipe for FXR. So I kind of like,

in the tip for me, I've kind of figured it out. I guess that's how I look at it. Like I've got my,

you conquered it. I've got what I wanted out of it dialed. Like how I like it,

I'd figured it out. I've trials and tribulations. I've wasted a ton of money. I've broken a lot of

shit trying to figure shit out. And I think now I'm to a point where I need, I want, I want something

to like be able to like further that creative side. And I want a little more like where I'm

going to try to like start fab and some stuff, try to do that kind of stuff. I, I, and like just

push my, my limit and my skills to, you know, I have a little bit of skills. I don't have a lot.

And so I'm trying to like maybe curate that further. Yeah. And I mean, that's the only real

way like the FXR stuff. I mean, you're not doing a lot of fab and stuff. I mean, you can, I guess,

but not for what I like my FXRs to be. Like it doesn't, that, that those two don't go really

together. So that's why I'm like, want to maybe step outside that and do something. And like,

I know FXR is so like my brain creates this like hybrid FSR chopper thing, but it's like a

rigid frame, but it's like what I could, if I could do an FXR rigid, something like that's kind

of what my brain has. And I'm sure that'll evolve obviously too, as it kind of becomes its thing,

it'll just kind of morph into other things. But I kind of have a general

direction that I want to go when I get there. Yeah. I just got to figure out when I'm going to get

there. It'll be sooner than later because that one's really been like fucking scratching at my

like creative itch that I need to get out. So I think I'm going to hurry up and do this blue

bike, turn it into the bike I want real quick. And then start working on the other one. Yeah. I'm

good. That's good. And like its debut of like what I want to do to it. And then from there,

I think I'll have to figure out a something else. And I don't want to like buy a new bike,

another bike. So I'm probably going to just make my own start scrapping digging through my parts,

piles do an evo chop is I think probably I have another shovel head motor that I could do another

shovel head, but an evo chop is something I've kind of that's what I originally wanted was an

evo chop. And it's just like, I mean, it's reliable ish. It's, you know, I mean, if you're not going

to have probably not going to have any motor problems. Yeah. Like as long as the motor sounds

like when you put it in there, like anything else is it's going to be everything else probably

about that. Yeah. Yeah. As long as you change the oil on those things, they're yeah, I mean,

even not working, they'll still work. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they'll eat themselves before

they fully stop. So I mean, when I came when I, when we hung out in Austin, originally the idea

was to ride the chopper down there. And I had gotten to a point where I felt like I was starting it

pretty like good, good, like dialed in it was still taking like 30 minutes to start in the morning.

Well, when it's cold and low and behold, like I've got my starting thing down and it was never

the bikes problem. The bike is almost like almost a one kick bike from day one. The problem was is

that I took too much information in from everybody else on how to start a bike. And so I had the

sequence that I would start and it would prolong the ability to start the bike. Like it's a

like prime kicks, you know, make sense to do that. Well, three pumps and then prime kick it for a

couple of times was flooding. It was flooding it. So the rest of the time I was like almost trying to

clear it out, clear it out. And, but I never thought to not do that because that's the way

everybody was telling me they did it. So I thought that was baseline. Right. And so my baseline was

flooding the bike and then trying to figure out this area of your way backwards. Exactly. You

know, pulling the plugs out, blowing them off, cleaning them off, taking the air cleaner off,

trying to get some air into it when realistically like maybe half a twist of the throttle

when I'm getting ready to start and I'll the first kick it almost here through. Yep. And then

okay, I'll probably have this now it's primed probably the next kick it's going to fire over

and that's kind of how it now don't be wrong. Like there's times when it's it's perfect. There's

times when it's like, all right, yeah, you got basically you need to clear the carb again, start

over. But I got it down now. We're like, I'm not scared to ride it. So I was going to ask if you

finally figured out the yeah, you got it dialed. At least I'm confident you can ride it now at least

without. Yeah. And honestly, the the traveling aspect, the hardest thing that I'm thinking about

traveling on this bike is going to be storage figuring out how to not if it was just close,

like, doesn't have a tall sissy bar, right? I have a decently sized sissy bar. Yeah, I could

take it. But the problem is I didn't think about this when we're making it. I put the license plate

on the back of the sissy bar. So now that's kind of like going to cover it, like if you put a big

bag on it or something. Yeah, so I can't have it on both sides. I could have it on one side and

you know, whatever, but like, you know, but the license plate and the tail lights right there is

one unit on top of the fender, which looks good, but it's going to make it a challenge to do that.

One but one body one lens. Yeah, close. And that's it. I gotta piss too.

So I don't know why I so badly have wanted to ride that chopper every day.

You know what I mean? I mean, like, like I said, that's kind of where I'm like,

why I want to like maybe try that little side, at least for like a bike for myself.

Yeah, at least one bike. Yeah, like I'm like, I don't see myself going full chopper, get it,

get rid of the FXRs and, you know, do that. But like, I just want something like I was saying

earlier, like I just want something to challenge myself on the next level, like where I'm like,

oh, like, you know, in 30 years when I'm, you know, getting old and the kids and like,

like I built that myself, like I literally built that whole fucking thing from everything to it

was nothing and now that that exists. Yeah. And then that's, you know, so in 50 years when I'm gone

and my kid, maybe hopefully they still have it and they're like, yeah, my dad, you know, your grandpa

built that bike by with by himself, you know, like something like that, just some like legacy

shit. Do you know the feeling of like I associated it to like the first bike I ever had, where you

first felt riding and you're like, you don't know where to go, you have nowhere to go. And you're

like, you don't need anything in the store. Yeah, I just I'm gonna go fucking 12 degrees outside.

I'm just like, you know, I'm still, you know, beanie on like all logic is out the window. I

just want to be on that bike. And that's the feeling that I have riding that bike, even though

everything about it, that everybody's going to think about a chopper versus a road glide or something.

It's gonna be, oh, I don't want that taking fucking 30 minutes to start a bike. You know,

when it starts, you're not fucking happy you are and how stoked you are. Yeah, like, all right, but

when you leave the driveway, you're like, hell yeah. Fuck yeah. Yeah, no, I need something to

like renew that. It doesn't take that long now, but it's still when you leave the driveway. Even now,

but probably even more so when it starts second kick, third kick, now you're like, fuck yeah,

because he's spent I remember what it was like that hour there. After an hour, I didn't even

start and you're like, fuck this shit. I'm out like, yeah, no, that's I need some that's why

I'm kind of like trying to just get back to what motorcycles were like about to for me like from

the beginning, like riding it and like doing that. Like I even like I've I've written so little like

in the last couple years, like when I ride, I still I kind of feel sketched. Like, I don't feel

I don't feel comfortable like I used to. Yeah, like not like I don't feel sketchy. Like I'll still go

run like a drive right around like an asshole. But like it's not like it doesn't feel like it was

like like back in the day, I felt like you know what I mean? Like as soon as you get on that bike,

it's like you just you're locked in. Yeah. But like now I'm like, I just find myself always being like

maybe or maybe it's all my getting older too, or I'm just a little more cautious and everything.

Like I think I'm not splitting lanes and dead stop traffic in California at 100 miles an hour

anymore. You know, I'll probably keep it under, you know, under 50 maybe. But I mean, we used to do

that, we'd get fucking hammered and just see how fast we could get home. Yeah, you know,

like splitting lanes at literally at 100 miles an hour, like, like, what the fuck are we thinking?

Why? Yeah, I've got plenty of those kind of stories and those kind of experiences.

But man, they're fun when you're doing it, though, until you step or when you wake up in the morning

and it's kind of like when you're raising kids and you're like, don't do it. It's just really

stupid. Like, but when you're the dumb ass doing it, it's like, this is so much fun. Yeah. Yep.

100%. Yeah, it I've been trying to figure out how to like articulate the feelings and stuff

like that. Because I think that a lot of what I hear people saying they miss about motorcycling,

they can get by going the opposite direction of like practicality. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like, if you're on a modern bike and you're you want a deeper connection to a motorcycle,

taking a step back to an FXR or an older, you know, skinny tire dyna is going to open up the

hat like a carburetor, which I hate to say it this way, but like so many people that have never

owned a carburetor scared of them, they think that it's primitive in a lot of ways and on paper.

It is. Yeah. Yeah, you can't fine tune it like you can feel injection. Yeah, but the simplicity

of it and the feel and the sound and the resistance you have with throttle cables,

like you just don't have that on a modern bike. Exactly. And that's why I like,

I think that's part of like what I was saying with the sole thing. Like it's not like a hippie-dibby

thing. Like the bike is just, it's just different. It's all mechanical. Yeah. Everything's mechanical.

Like there's no electronic this and that. It's just, there's raw, just metal doing what it's

it all goes down to just being like, like you said, like that connection with just like things

being simpler. I don't need, I don't have a big fucking iPad screen staring me in the face,

you know, touchscreen navigation and stuff like that all has its purpose and like it's cool. You

know, when you have a cool bike that can literally do everything for you, you know, like a Goldwing

that has reverse and air conditioning and stuff, you know, like, sure, like it has its purpose.

You can crush miles on those things for days and not even worry about it. And that's cool.

That has its purpose. If that's your thing, like those guys that just ride thousands of miles

every day for months on end, like, yeah, that's cool. I have a lot of respect for you because I

know how much that, how difficult that is. Yeah. But that is nothing I am interested in at all,

not even a little bit. So I'm, I haven't had like a roguelite or modern bike in a couple years.

And that's really kind of been where I've kind of cut my teeth in the last like seven years is

like doing the performance bagger stuff. And so this next year, stepping back into that, that,

that space, it goes all into this conversation we've had tonight where I know where my heart is

in motorcycles right now. And I know that like this new roguelite is in all ways, like the

opposite of what it is that I'm enjoying about bikes, even though like I can enjoy what that is.

When it comes to customizing it, this is where like, I'm trying to figure out how to give this

bike soul on a new roguelite. That's here. That's kind of where like my I get lost with the new bikes

is there's only so much you can do to it. Like, I mean, I guess the same thing,

everything on an FXR has been done, you know, aside from like the M8 stuff, and I just, that's

not really my thing. But like an EVO FXR pretty much been done 1000 times, you know, and like,

but there's always a way to like make it a little different. Oh, that's cool. You know,

like there's, there's ways you just got to get creative. And I think that's kind of like why

the newer bikes have been not so appealing is just like, they're all the same. Like, and even

when they're not the same, they're pretty much the same. Yeah, you know, like the only difference

you can really do I see is like, you can only bolt so many cool parts on them. And then like,

the only difference is the paint. Yeah, you know, like who you had painted. Yeah. And that's only

that's really the only way to differentiate yourself in like that, that scene, because

everybody's kind of running the same parts suspension setup, they run the same, like, you

know, if you want to have the big swing and dick that there's only so many parts you can buy,

you know, there's like two options. It seems like on you have one or two options, maybe three

for like every item that's like the the item. Yeah, you know, like how many swing arms can

somebody make how many different sets of this or that. So that's just kind of where it but I do

want I at some point I will have a new road glide. I really like this fucking ST the CBO ST.

I just want a plain one. I just want to give me a stock one. And I literally it'll probably be

the only bike I don't like do anything to. I would put the seat bars exhaust triangle. Yeah.

And then aside from that, I would just ride that thing. Like I want to like,

that's the one I would do the not slowing it down. And I would be like, I want to go to San

Diego this weekend and this be like, go. Yeah. Because you're not really thinking about like

what could or would not go. Right. I'm not worried about it. And if it does something that was

wrong, I can just call the dealership and have them come pick my bike up and then I can just we

can all we can get on a what is it when like they're also on your computer? Yeah. Yeah. I'm

just going to remote in and I'm going to see what's going on. Oh yeah. Let me hold on. Let me

reset your up. You're good to go. Like have a good day. Like you're like fuck. Oh, it's easy.

It shows here that you didn't unlock six gear. Do you want to opt in on that service?

We can unlock your six gear for, for $69.99 a month. Yeah.

You're not on the, you're not on the sports mode package. Oh yeah. You didn't,

you didn't pay the extra money for the, for the go fast package. Yeah. So you hit a hundred on

that thing. Yeah. You can't do that. Now it's in limp mode. You're not allowed to go that fast.

That's, I mean, that's how they're going to be profitable in the long run, but like

companies already do that. Yeah. Like the power modes. Yeah. You can, you just pay and they're

like, Oh, and you're like, what the hell? Like it's been there the whole time. They just make

you pay for it. I think that's why, especially in the car world, why vintage cars or older cars

or however you want to call it are just becoming so much more appealing. You know, like, like my,

my Jeep's a 2018. I can't think of anything else technology wise. I really want it'll do car play.

It has a heater in the seat. I have a sunroof and the electric windows go down on all four

set. And I got like cruise control. I don't need anything else. I don't need my steering wheel

to vibrate when I'm getting over without changing, putting in a fucking, I don't need air conditioned

seats. I mean, yeah, it'd be cool. It goes straight in your butthole. It's not even that great.

It's like the heat is just hot. The air conditioner is blowing air in your ass. It's just

weird. One step away from being gay. Yeah, it's like, it's just like a dude.

Are you good? Yeah. No, I want to get like, I want my first car when I was 16, I had an 87 colors.

And man, I can't. I can't tell you. Yeah, I can't tell you how many cut losses are in my fucking

marketplace saved. Oh, dude. Yeah. I just have to win the lottery or, you know,

G bodies jumped up like she did first and G bodies did within like the last five years,

I think my, my mom sold mine when I was in bootcamp for you told me about that.

And all the needed it was just had a blown head gasket. Yeah, it was like a 305 or 350.

I think they're like a 302 or something. I think there was a 302 on the in the old

automobile. But yeah, I came home and I was and she was like, I sold it. And then like,

fast forward, like a year or two later, she shows me pictures that the guy sent her of him

after he like all like lowridered it out, which is exactly what I wanted to do. And I was like,

thanks mom, I'm glad you sent me those just to pour the salt in that wound. It's like looking

at your girlfriend from high school, like she's doing right. Yeah, she's been a black guy.

I'm like really being a being a product of the 80s in the 90s, I thought 80s was the grossest part

of like life. Like I just never liked anything from the 80s, right? But I don't know what happened

in the last five years. I've just grown this appreciation for 80s aesthetics, especially

in like vehicles that I never thought were cool. I never, I never liked them like a four instance.

Well, any G body from the 80s, I know I didn't care for him. I think I did only because like I had

one. So like it was had like a more nostalgia aspect for me, like I had like a personal thing

than necessarily like, but I mean, they are pretty cool. They can't deny that. Like

my first like, you thing into the world of like motorcycle car thing was like import cars and

it was I was a Nissan guy. So we were doing the 240s and stuff like that. And that's kind of like

that, that 80s in the 90s transition style where like the Supra, the RX seven started getting kind

of cool. Like I like that. And then like I felt like my buddy TBJ is in the Porsches and we nerd

out and I like, I love the 944 Porsche. It's not, it's like one of the affordable old school vintage

Porsches. That's one of the ones with like the longer nose, right? Yeah, it's a front engine

thing. And I just dig them and I kind of want one. I'm not in a position in life to get one.

But like I want that. And then I'm also really into 80s fucking BMWs and like

beamers. And like the old S like the old SL 500s, like I like the 80s and 90s like BMWs and like,

dude, I fucking want dude, I'm my marketplace is fucked right now. It makes me think of like,

like the movie like a boys in the hood and like New Jack City, buddy. That stuff where they were

rolling around on like some spokes and stuff or some, you know, some like stuff. I love that.

Oh, there. Yeah, you can't go wrong. So the two door with like the fender kits, the fender

flares and stuff in the, in the benzes and stuff. A two door S is it's like a, hold on,

I gotta look it up. Man, G bodies, like as a kid, I'm with you. I thought they were ugly.

Man, right now my favorite car, if I could get me a clone, I don't even care if it's a clone.

I want a grand national. So bad. Yeah. Oh, dude, I don't have nor will I don't. I don't think I'll

ever have grand national money, right? But especially now because I mean, they're regal

that's painted to be like a grand national and I will fuck with it. Like honestly, mine. So my

colors was a, it was 87. And it was like, it was maroon with the front bench seat. And it was,

I, I just, I got it from a little old lady that lived in my, I lived in a little small town in,

in Illinois. Is that where you're from originally? Well, I was a military brat. So I just kind of

moved around a lot when I was a kid. But then when my, my stepdad got out of the Marine Corps,

we moved to Illinois where he grew up. And then we moved to this little tiny ass town,

1200 people. And I remember I saw it when I was like 15 and the lady had it like

in her yard with a four sale sign and had like 27,000 miles in this was in 2000.

And it was like her and her husband's little like ride around on Sundays to go get groceries.

Oh yeah. And like there was, you know, husband passed it sat in the garage for like five,

six years and I got it for 1500 bucks. Roll the old Cutlass Supreme. This, this is my drug dealer

era car that I want. Yeah, that's the one. Like that's exactly it. That's, that's that

fucking new jack city. Like, S BMW, no, uh, Mercedes Benz SL 500 convertible, which I have

talked about. There's just, I want to buy one of those like across somewhere far away and like

flying and drive at home. That's like that motorcycle mentality of like, I want to take

an old bike that shouldn't do this and do that is the same thing in my love for cars right now

where I want something that I want to feel like I could not make it possibly. I found my exact car

from when I was 16 in like Mississippi and it's stupid clean. It has like the Cutlass. Yeah.

What? And it's not stupid price. Like it's, it's fairly reasonable. It's only about 14 grand,

but it has, it only has 30,000, like original miles. Oh shit. It's like clean. Like you,

the pictures are like stupid. I was just like, and I, it's been in my marketplace saving. I'm,

I literally, it's one of those. Like I look at it like I checked to make sure it's still there.

Like I'm going to be able to buy it anytime soon. You know, I always scroll and when I see sold

shit, I just hope that that one's not sold. Do you make up a price of your mind that, that really

costs? Like he's wanting 14. So in your mind, like, yeah, I know what I would go and offer him.

Like I have in my head, like when I, are you so confident to like, he's going to take that?

Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to show up at this guy's house and I'm going to give him 10 grand cash

and I'm going to be driving an 87 Cutlass home from fucking Mississippi. Because you're going

to persuade him. You're like, look, I've been watching this car for three years. I know you're

not moving at 14. So let's make a deal today for 10. And I'm going to give you my sob story.

This was my first car when I was 16. Like, can I pull on your fucking? Yeah, check the title.

Heartstrings a little bit. Can I, can I, can I fuck it? Yeah. Can you fucking do the car facts?

Can you tell me that this was the, you know, feel bad for me? Like, yeah, they're like, oh,

that's cool story. But I mean, hey, yeah, I'm going to have one. Like I will. Like that's my,

that's going to be my thing. But I think before I do that, I got to buy my wife's

car that I promised her what she wants. She wants a 66 continental.

Those are still kind of reasonable. I think her uncle has one and it's just sitting at his house

and he was his project that he will never get to. So we're slowly, we're working on him.

Have you ever seen that same year continental but two door? It's one of the sickest cars.

I love the door. Everybody overlooks them because they want the suicide door. Yeah,

100%. I like the short body. Just like the catty, the two door catties, like,

like the old school ones too. I love that. Like that's that look I like with

put it on bags and make it look good. I mean, that's where like, you know, West Coast just kind

of like shaped my, I grew up in the Midwest and then I got stationed in San Diego and like the

West Coast shaped my like how I look at cars, motorcycles, like that all my style is West

Coast 100%. Like when it comes to like what I like about cars, the cars I like, like all that

stuff is just and was heavily influenced by that. I was always into the low rider shit though.

That shit was like my, I was probably like one of the only little like 12 year old white kids in

Illinois that had a subscription to low rider magazine in like the 90s and 2000s for sure.

I was my, like, that was my thing. I loved that shit. I've always been into like just tinkering

with shit. Yeah. Well, back in the day, like you, you had like three or four channels. If you

got into custom things, you had motorcycles, mini trucks, low riders, and then hot rods,

but hot rods was kind of like the old man's money guy thing. Yeah. Like you couldn't afford to like

do that. Like the chip bucket or some stuff, you know, you couldn't, you know, you have to be in

a special tax bracket for that kind of stuff. And I don't think any of us are anywhere. Yeah,

you know, I would be great. I wish I could be, but I like where I'm good. I just, I've been

thinking a lot, you know, when it comes to like new vehicles, like if you,

if you had to like say whatever you drive today is like going out, you had to get something else.

It's like, do you like, can you justify the cost of new vehicles for what you're getting?

I wouldn't want a new car. Like I have my truck. It was like a 2016. I bought a brand new. I've got

like 130k on it. It's got, it's a Cummins. So it's like, yeah, I think it'll run forever. Yeah.

I just had to do the transmission around 100k. So I'm probably got another 100k on that truck

before anything else major goes wrong, knock on wood, hopefully. But I mean, I've been,

like I was saying, I kind of, I've been this itch. I've kind of wanted to sell that bitch

and then buy that Cutlass and just make that one. If you sold it, got the Sprinter or a version

of the Sprinter, but still had some money left over for the Cutlass. So the Cutlass could be

the round town thing. You know what I mean? Cause to me, it's like, if you have a cool car,

but I want to start like taking old shit and doing what we do on our bikes with old shit.

Like I want to have a old fucking Cutlass that I rip, rip to California and fucking

go on a road trip to, you know, like when me and my son went on that trip, like let's go do it in

the Cutlass. If you did it in an old school car, how much sick would it be? Dude, right? Like

we're just riding around in the country in a fucking, you know, a 30, 40 year old car that's

not supposed to be, you know, doing this shit. Like that, I got, I don't know. Just so everybody

knows like people, cars could not physically drive across country until 2000. Really? No.

It did. I mean, it did it. It seems like it. Cause like they weren't going that fast. Like

you're like the speed limits now, like, like you got these toll roads, like the speed limits are

80. Yeah. Like bro, like I would be floor, like pedal to the floor in the Cutlass, like running 80.

Like the Cutlass, the mass on the speedo is like 80. Yeah. And it's one of those ones that goes

sideways and it literally tops out of 80. Like you'd have it fucking needle pinned on the fucking

toll road. Yeah. Like that's, but let me ask you this. Like when I, when I jump in my van or

when I'm on the chopper, like I get in, like I'm going to Dallas, I get in the fucking slow lane

and I am content with, do you feel less urgency? Like let's need to, I have no, I don't care. No

sense of urgency. It's just like, yo, like this feels good. Why does I don't, I don't have the

words for this. This is what I'm getting at. No, I, the chopper, the van, it's like, they don't do

that. I can't get on the highway and do 90. So, but I'm actually, I think it's cause you already

know that. So you're just like, yeah, writing that already, you know, like where I'm going,

like I'll get there, but I'm just like, we'll get there. Yeah. So you just feel good automatically

just because you're already just, so if you're at Lamborghini doing the same thing, like I don't

think it's, you're allowed to like, you're going to be stressed in that Lamborghini. Yeah. Because

you're fucking like, like, you know what I mean? Like you're fucking locked in and you got to be,

but like, if I just give it a little bit more, it'll do it. Yeah. But in the van, you're just like,

we're good. Yeah. We're cruising like in a carless. Like you just, I'm just chilling. Like I'm not,

it feels good though. It like, it's not that you feel cool or whatever. It's like,

well, you feel cool too. You can add that in. It does. Like, there's a cool factor to that for

sure. Like you can definitely add that into like the just riding it. Like you feel like,

not necessarily like cool in the sense of like, I'm cool as fuck because I have this, but it's just

like, you know, it's like, other people are looking at it and like, damn, like that's a cool car.

And that's like, you like fucking take me out of the picture. Like, yeah, look at my car. Like,

that's the point right now. Like I, I'm enjoying this and look at what I have. Like this is a cool,

like. So you brought this up on your FXR and on your chopper. You've already said like, I don't,

I don't listen to music when I'm riding. You don't have gauges in the cutlass. It's the same thing.

You don't have all the modern features where look, I've got my, I've got my podcast plan and I got

this and I got all this stimulant, right? You're, you're more immersed in the moment. Like, you

know what I mean? I'm in the van. I'm not, I don't have a stereo coin because the stairs ain't

shit on this thing. I'm just in the mode. I'm just in the zone. It's louder to close the windows

because all the fucking leaks fucking around the edges. It's like that. You roll the windows down.

It's like a consistent loud and you're like, this feels better. Yes. And you, you know, to get the

music up, like you can hear the music, but the music in my language, I, yeah, the music is not

like it's part of the sound. It's background noise at the point. It's background noise. It's like

everybody I know thinks I'm fucking crazy, but when I, even when I drive, like when I go on a

road trip, if I do a lot of like solo jamming around, like I'll, like I would, I left here

to go to the jam this past this year. I left here on a Wednesday night and I, or a Tuesday night

and I was at the jam by Wednesday night, like in New York, 2000 miles. I just straight shot at it.

And I, I'll ride that whole time. No music, like even in the truck, it's a new truck, but like

I'll just not be on my phone, nothing. And I'll just no music. I do the same thing when I ride.

I hate having music when I ride. I will occasionally, like if I'm really just fucking getting it,

I'll turn, I'll turn my little speaker on, but usually I just like, plus I like to listen to

my bike. If something happens, I want to know what happened. You can, the sound is going to tell

you a lot of things like troubleshooting that initial, like whatever happens, the release of

something breaking or whatever you're like, you gotta tell what it was. Yeah. Well, when you get on

a bike trip and you go and like, you get like a natural, like you understand everything about

the bike, the way it sounds and feels. And you know, when one thing starts to feel weird in your

foot peg, you're like, okay, it's in the right foot peg. It's on the left. Yeah, something's loose

somewhere vibrating, like something came loose, something. Yeah. So you, you, you would attach

all the senses God gave you to fucking, you know, deal with these kind of problems, right?

The thing is like dudes that like, I think that comes back to like building the bike too. And

where that like that part is more rewarding because you put it all together. So you're like,

like he said, oh, it's in the right foot peg. So like, it's probably this or this,

you know, you pull over like that. Look at that. Let me, let me push the clutch in and see if it's

in the drivetrain. Yeah, like it's not vibrating like, oh, it's still vibrating with no clutch or

with clutch pulled in like, okay, like let's pull off and you look and like, yep, that's exactly

what I thought. And it's some dumb shit that's vibrated loose. I feel like I'm not going to

sit here and say that I don't listen to music or I don't listen to podcasts when I drive or ride.

Like there are times I do, but there is, there's a, there's a part of being in a car

or on my bike where silence is literally therapy for me. It's like, I'm just thinking and thinking

and thinking and you're, I've always said that you're peeling back all these layers of an onion.

And they're always like the surface layers are always like the now that really like,

what happened this week? What happened last week? What happened this month? What happened this year?

Where am I going in life? Yeah, you know, it can be some like, you can have some deep

shit, like, like unintentional, like mind or like life changing, like inner dialogue,

exactly, by like, just disconnecting for a minute. And I think that's when you, when, when in life,

you'll ever get to be other than on a bike or in a car on a road trip, especially if you're

doing it solo. Like if you had a passenger, I think that either if it's a dude, like a homie,

you could probably get into a deep conversation. If it's like your chick, you probably could as

well, but there's also going to be a lot of like, I'm tired, you know, whatever the fuck women say.

I have to pee. Yeah, I gotta pee again. But like you really can like really delve into like ideas

and thoughts and, and shit. And I think it's very therapeutic and very like rewarding to do so. And

then maybe come out of it, like we were talking earlier, like, you know what, I think I was an

asshole in that situation. I probably need to reach out to homeboy and say, Hey, look, man,

I finally got to a point in my life where things were quiet enough that I could actually

really assess the situation and take myself out of the, uh, like, you know,

the rat race for a minute. Yeah, dude, you're right. I was, I was, you know, I've been very

inconsiderate, you know what I'm saying? Like I think I do that shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I force you, I haven't had to do that much. Most of my friends may have a problem with me.

They just hide it, you know, like, like, you ever tell you, like all men. Yeah,

we just fucking put that in a little box and store it away for later.

But yeah, it's just, I don't know. Like I do, I do love the aspect of that. And, you know,

you were saying earlier, it's like, uh, this has been the least, least amount of traveling I've

done on a motorcycle this year, 25. And partly so because I was building two bikes, but also

like I do feel like a, a weird, there's a part of like that, this therapeutic where it's like you

do, you do a run of hard work and then you get out and you kind of like maybe process that,

that part of your life through a phase. Yeah. And you come home, refresh and then you do another

stint. Now you can, yeah. Now you can approach the next, yeah, whatever series of bullshit that's

going to. So how was like in terms of 2025, like, do you think the year went as planned or

as close to as planned as possible, or do you even plan that way?

I, man, I tried not to to have, like we said, because if you start making plans,

you start creating these expectations and, you know, and then you look back at the end of the

year and you're like, fuck, I didn't do shit that I wanted to do. But then you forget to look at all

the shit that you did do. Yeah. You know, and like, well, look at all the shit I did accomplish,

you know, and I'd probably say I, I've been having like a tough time, like since I retired,

just kind of like figuring out where the fuck I belong and like where everything like,

how many years did you do in the military? I did 20. And then I, I've been out like two and a half

now, like I retired in like the summer of 23. So I just like, like that last like two and a half

years has just been like, for me, that's kind of why I've just like the writing stuff hasn't

stopped. I've just been like in this weird funk and like trying to figure out what the fuck

where I'm at, what I'm doing. And then like, you know, I don't have to work. So it's like,

you don't have this like anything to like give you a, like a drive to like, you know, you don't

have to do anything. You know what I mean? Like everything's good. Like I can just kind of sit

back and be chill if I want, but I've learned that I can't do that. It's not good for my mental

at all. So I'm trying to like figure out that balance of like, it's nice to be able to be home

and like do that. That'd be part of it. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like that's one thing I

won't take for granted is like being able to just like, anytime the kids are like, Oh, like, can

you do this? Like, yeah, like, can you come and be a chaperone on this field trip? That's fucking

literally, you know, can you come to the school we're doing this? Fuck yeah, like let's go. Yeah,

that's just dope. But like, also, you can't do too much of that because you got to have,

you got to do shit for yourself. You got to be selfish, man. You have an identity. Yeah. Yeah,

you got to be selfish. I feel like a lot of people do like forget that and they feel like, Oh,

you know, like they think about everybody else so much that you forget like you got to be selfish

sometimes and like do something for yourself because if you just keep crushing and doing

shit and just getting that fucking hamster wheel of life, man, you'll just eat yourself alive. You

know, you got to go out and do something like find something that you like and like do something

for yourself at least a little bit like I started I found that I would like started to get away from

that and you know, I think that's when you start to like get this weird like everything kind of

you just you get into your own head, you know, and you get you get like,

you kind of get like depressed, I guess is the best way to say you kind of run.

You're just like, Oh, and that gets like that. Oh, I'm gonna go do this when you're like,

because you're just like, I just think about like, I want to do all these things. And like,

I'm gonna go do it. I'm gonna go do it. I'm like, all the things that I need to do to get to that

point, like, I got to get ready. I got to make sure the bike's good. What if the bike breaks down

and you think of like, what if instead of just going out and have fun? Yeah, and just do it,

like, go have a good time. You know, and if it were if shit gets if it sucks, like whatever.

But like I said, more often than not, 90% of the time if you go, I end up being like,

damn, that was fun. I'm glad I did that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, so it's like,

just get out and go ride like that's what I'm trying to like get back to this year,

like this coming year is like just the what made me enjoy this shit, like originally, you know,

I mean, like why I liked motorcycles, why I wanted to do this shit anyways, you know, it wasn't

it wasn't like to go to a fucking parking lot and sit there for 12 hours and

like hang out. I want to go ride this shit too. Like it yeah, that has its fun too. Like it's

cool to go show off your shit and be like, look, this is what I made. That's cool. But like,

I want to go ride my shit. Like I'm kind of I'm sick of just the the little hangout stuff. I want

to go do more shit. I'm gonna I'm just gonna make myself. I got it. I just got to get on the bike.

Like let's go. So if anybody wants to go, like just hit me up. And if you want to talk FXRs,

let's go because that's that's and I'm trying to like I said, I'm trying to be on the road

like a lot more this year. The wife and kids will be fine. I'll be I'll be home enough. They'll be

it's a good balance, I think gone just long enough to get missed. Yeah, exactly. And then

you come back and everybody's like, Hey, dad's home. You're like, Yeah, I'm like, you know,

like this is awesome. Everybody likes me. They forgot that when dad's home, like I'm kind of an

asshole sometimes. Shit doesn't, you know, the house doesn't operate just like I said,

just long enough to get missed. That way you're they're happy to see you home. But then like,

you know, after a couple of weeks, the fun wears off. Hey, when you got to go to the trip soon.

Yeah, right. I see. Yeah, probably go. That's that's been another thing. Like my poor wife,

because our whole relationship, we were I was like gone all the time, like now. And then now I'm

home all the time, like poor lady. She's fine. Stick with me. How long was some of the

deployments you had to do? So like, I only like my last half, I only did like three deployments.

So they weren't like anything crazy, like just six, nine months, like that kind of stuff. But

it's just like the the work cycle to like, there's tons of little two weeks here, a month there,

you know, five days here, three or four days there. Like, those are the ones that like really

are the the triangles, like the deployment, you know, that's coming out. Yeah, yeah,

it's kind of like a like in sick in a in next year, I'm going on deployment, like I'm going to

be gone for six months next year. Like, you know that. But it's like, Oh, hey, sorry, something

came up, like I got to go out of town for two weeks. You know, that kind of shit. But my last

five years was pretty cake. I was in Virginia. And it was my job was pretty cool. And I got to

spend a lot of time in Key West for work. Yeah, like it was it was pretty dope. I didn't I didn't

hate it. So it's joining the Navy like the easy route to like not having to go you get to go to

exotic places with the water. I mean, it depends on I'd say, you know, I'm like a like a recruiters

like dream because like I I didn't really have a shitty time in the military. A lot of people like,

you know, fuck that I couldn't wait to get out like I had a great time. I mean, sure there was

those times that you're like, fuck, this sucks. But like what job doesn't have that? You know what

I mean? Yeah, that's like that's it. Where the whole time it's like fucking rainbows and unicorns.

Yeah, 100% doesn't exist. And I mean, I look back at 20 years and like I had more fucking hell yeah,

that was awesome. Then man, that sucked. And even the suck made the fucking cool parts that much

cool. Yeah, yeah. You know, you got to have a balance with that shit like 100%. Yeah, you can't

appreciate the good without the bad and the bad, you know, that's probably one of the best

perspectives that I've been able to adopt as a 40 year old. Is it like you understand good times

and bad times, they're gonna happen. There's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, like you being

aware of a good time and a bad time is like probably the best skill. That way you can learn to

appreciate each other, each of them in a form that like gives you a perspective, right? When you're

at bike night and the homies are here, the garage is open, the homies show up, all everybody's

locked in to do a trip this year, that's called a good time. Yeah. So and that doesn't happen. It

doesn't, it's not forever. It's like all the lines. Yeah, it's like that, you know, it's like all

these will like, you know, there's a, there's a, there's a level of convenience in life that

I don't want to say that to like, okay, well, there's been times where like conveniently I've

had a friend live close and we've had the best time and like the closest friend I've ever had the

homie, the best time and then when things get inconvenient, then it doesn't exist anymore.

But I wouldn't in an earlier part of my life, be like, Oh, that dude's a piece of shit. He doesn't

want to hang out anymore because we don't live close to each other. Bro, we both was on a good

fucking run for a minute and I cherish those moments. And you know, when it wasn't convenient

anymore, we both, you know, like, so now I don't look at that animosity anymore. I look at like,

man, I really appreciate the time I got to do this with individual and blah, blah, blah.

That's kind of how I feel like about like the periods when I moved, like when I left San Diego,

I was like, man, what the fuck am I going to do? Like, I've lived here 15 years and like,

that's all I've known and like everybody I know is here. My whole like adult life has been here.

Yeah. And then we moved to Virginia and then first couple years were kind of like, you know,

like it was like cool, but it wasn't like great. And then by the last like two years, I'm like,

fuck dude, I don't want to leave. Yeah, you know, and then you like, now I left there and I'm like,

you look back at those periods of time and you realize like, you probably didn't take,

look at, you probably didn't take it, you take for, take advantage of it when you could have,

when you should have, because you look back and then you're like, damn, like they always say,

like the like, you know, the good times, you don't know the good times until they're already gone,

like when you were living in the moment. Yeah. And then like you look back and you're like,

you didn't know that was the good old days. And so they were, and then you're like, oh,

those were the good old days. But at that time, you're just like living in it. And like, I think

that's, that's all you can do now. Like, and I think now that we're older, I realized, like

you said, in those moments, you're like, oh, this is the good, these are the good moments right now.

Yeah. And being able to like appreciate that, not take it for granted and just be like, yeah,

there's a form, there's a form of life. But right now, what we're doing, all three of us in this

room is a good fucking time. Yeah, it's a good moment. It's, you know, comparative to what

aspect of our life. There's could be so much shittier. I mean, this could be this could be the

peak. I mean, tomorrow fucking, we could go to war. We can, you know, like COVID times two or COVID

XL or, you know, whatever fuck comes out. Like there's always like, you know, that that thing

about appreciation, appreciating the moment and, and opportunity, like when you have homies that

are hungry and want to get out, like you should, you've seen those memes that have been going around

like those little, I say memes, but the reels or whatever, when it's like, there's two of them,

there's the, you never know, this is the last time you were going to meet up at the skate spot.

Yeah, like there's a point where every time you do something, it's the last time you do it.

You never know when it's going to be the last one. Right. And that shit hit. Like I was like,

fuck, I do remember. I don't remember the day and that's what sucks. I can remember the period

of time when like you went from like that skate, like, cause I was a skater, skater punk too. You

went like that was life. That was your fucking whole life. And then obviously here we are. What

is that one day where like, I went to this, the skate spot and then that was the last day. There

was no more skate spots. Like, yeah. And then you didn't plan it. So like, you were like, all right,

this is my last day. Like, this is it guys. I'm shipping out. You know, like,

it's been real homies. Like I'll see you. Yeah. There's no skate park fair world tour that you

went on. No. Yeah. You were like, this is just the last one guys. Like I, you know, we never know,

like when's the last night, you know, not that it's coming up, but like when's the last bike

night? When's the last time you're going to show up? Yeah. When's the last night? When's the last

time you got to travel on a, you never know if this is the last time you're going to travel on a

bike. Like, you know what, the bike shit's just like whatever. Yeah. You just like fade into the

darkness and that's it. You know, and everybody's just like, you know, five years down the road.

So I'm like, whatever happened to that guy? You know, like, I wonder what ever happened to him.

I wonder where he's at. Yeah. Like it could be fucking next week. Who knows. You never. So that's

the one that like hit pretty good. And then the other one that's been going around is like,

one day one of your buddies is going to buy a motorcycle. Oh yeah. The ones where it's like,

you should get one too. Like that's sure you get that one too. Yeah. Cause there was that same

thing with me and all the boys. Like one buddy got one and then the whole fucking the snowball

effect. And it was the same thing. They had one of the skateboards is like, I saw a do a skateboard.

I got one and then my homie got one and then we all started skating. And then the next thing you

know, it turned into motorcycles, you know, and then it became everybody got a bike and like,

well, it was like that with bicycles back in the day. Bicycles as well. I mean, that was kind

of like, like, that was just like a necessity as a kid. I mean, as a kid, how do you 41? All right.

So 41, like we probably got a CD player at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that was a thing

that happened. Like you 94. I still remember the first CD I ever do to boys to men and snoop dog.

My parents got me. It was Alan Jackson, Chattahoochee. Yeah. Same Christmas. I got a cowboy

hat and cowboy boots. I grew up in the hood. So yeah, we had to listen to I was in the country.

So rightfully so. My parents like, Hey, listen to this music and you'll be able to fit in in school.

Hey, I mean, whatever it's like, dude, you got to do, right? A million that shit.

But there is that, that, that point, like, you, you know, I mean, a bicycle was like,

every kid has a bike at some point time, whether it sticks with them or not for boys though,

it's different. Oh, like, it's like, that's like, I mean, that's like, well, if you're going to be

one of those kind of like dudes, like that's where your intro, intro into like, I used to take my

bike apart and like clean it. Same. Like just to like, I would take the wheel off just to like,

take it off and clean it and oil the fucking axles and shit. Like, yeah, I was a DMX dude.

So yeah, I wasn't, but I just would do it just because that's like, why not? Why wouldn't you?

Like, I'm going to take, and then I would like put the little small wheels on the front and like,

dude, little gay shit. What about this, right? So there's all these bars and there's all these

styles of bike, but like the first this all plays in the motorcycling. I get a bike, everybody gets

a bike and someone gets a dyno GT or a diamond back. And you're like, I got to get a diamond back

too. It's like a Harley. I didn't though. My parents were never same. I was never in that,

of that, that ability. I just had the, the Walmart bikes and whatever, you know, but hey,

but the thing is like, like, I don't remember. I think what happened is those bikes got fame,

like popular as like, like subculture things. Yeah. And it got to a point where they got,

they had like a cheap version that did become available at Walmart. And that's the one I got.

Yeah. I'm having the fucking, the gyroscope. No, same. None of that shit.

The mags that were like fake mags and like, it fit the park. That's a cool Huffy, bro.

Yeah. That's a cool Huffy. And that's why I got into, that's kind of like, I guess now that I'll

think about it, like having this conversation, like, I guess that was my first intro and like

customizing shit. Cause you, I would take like forks off of like different bikes and then put

them on it and try to put a smaller tire on it and just different handlebars. Remember

we used to, people used to put the handlebars way forward, like dumb shit like that. Like,

we were like, you want a low rider bike when you were a kid? Cause I thought they were so hard.

I wanted one so bad. I never, and then if you look in the low rider magazine, they would have

the kids. You could buy them. Yeah. Yes. Save. I never, never could never have the money for

that. But do you remember CCS catalog? Yeah. Bro. Yeah. Bro. I remember we used to do like,

that was before credit cards and shit. You used to be a member cash on delivery.

You could, you had to have a cashier's check to give to the UPS guy. Yeah. Like, and he would have

to collect the money before he could give you the package because he would order it and they would

mail you some shit without paying for it. And you'd have to pay the UPS guy. I remember being

like, mom, I saved up a hundred bucks. Like I want to order a new deck and she would, okay.

And then we'd order it and then I'd fuck it. She'd give me a cashier's check and I could

give it to the UPS guy. You'd be waiting. Like that was the good shit back in the day, man.

Now everything's just like, Oh, it comes in fucking. I can order and have it in eight hours

at my house from Amazon. Like, yeah, man. Well, I mean, we're waiting a week to watch the next

episode of a show. Yeah. I feel like I got lucky being from here in Dallas, where like we always

had skate shops and like to me, like going there and seeing that deck, same way you've been looking

at your cutlass, like, dude, I would go like no money to buy a skateboard deck. I would just go

to the skate shop every day and just like hang out, but stare at it. Like, no, yeah. You know what

I mean? Like those kind of the trucks, I was like, I'm going to get those trucks here pretty soon.

Yeah, I lived in like a small ass little town, like about 30 minutes outside of the main town.

Like, I don't know if you're familiar with Illinois at all. They were talking about when

you were out there, you're like close to Bloomington, right? Bloomington and Peoria are the

the town I grew up in like as a kid was right outside of Bloomington. Okay. And so

my mom on the weekends would drive us to the skate park on like Saturday morning at like

nine o'clock and drop us off until we called her on the pay phone at like six to pick us back up.

Yeah. And we would skate all over town and just like, like I think about it now and it's exhausting

just thinking about it. Like I get winded just thinking about how far we used to skate just to

go skate. Yeah. She drops off the skate park and we'd skate another like fucking five miles into

town to the campus on at the university. And we would just like skate street and stuff and like

all day long. And then we'd have like five bucks in our pocket and we'd eat and stay healthy-ish.

And yeah, yeah, just a little, you didn't eat much. No, we'd go to like 7-eleven hot dog and

keeping a move or like, like, like hearties and shit and get like, you know, or McDonald's to

get the dollar menu and when it was like the dollar menu, yeah, it was like a little dollar.

Dude, double cheeseburgers. Double cheeseburgers for a dollar and a soda and you were good.

Jack in a box, two tacos for a dollar. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd like that was,

and you were, that was good. That's all the food, fuel you needed to get you through the rest of the

day. And you just ran around with your little homies and hung out with all the little skate park

fucking hood rats. They would hang out. They would skate park had them. He was a skater boy.

Yeah. They would just sit there and then you just fucking go off into the fray. Try to hit those

tricks. You know what I mean? Go off into the woods and get high with your buddy's finger. Yeah,

too. Yeah.

If I can let the K-PRO smell that big hers. Bro, the good old days 15 again.

Yeah. And I had like, we had, we had this one homie that was like the only dude that was old

enough to drive. That was me and my group. Yeah. We had, like, it was all of us like younger kids

and he was the only one that could drive, but he was the only one that skated. Like he moved,

we remember, I remember when he moved to town and we saw him like skating in front of his house

one day and we were all like, Oh, what's up? And so he would just like drive us to the skate park

and shit. And we would just smoke weed with him in his little bucket in the back of his car.

He was blessed his heart because I don't know. Like that would be weird nowadays. Like a slightly

older kid. Like he was like 16, 17, and we were all like 13, 12, like that would be weird nowadays.

Yeah. And people would be like, people would probably be like, why are you hanging out with

these fucking little kids? But back then it was just like, because we all skated.

Yeah. I mean, there wasn't like, there was it, you know, when I was doing it,

like I was also, I was that kid. I was like, uh, I was out of high school, but

the kids I was skating were 15. I was like 18. Yeah. I mean, and I was kind of, well,

I have a car and I kind of, they're actually pretty good. I'm not as good as they are.

They've been skating longer than I have and they're down to skate. So, Hey,

you want to go skate downtown Dallas all night? He's coming to your house to ride.

Yeah. Like show up and let's go ride. Like, dude, where else in life do you,

like if you walked, if you went anywhere in life, if it wasn't a motorcycle involved,

why the fuck would you be hanging out with a 25 year old? I wouldn't. I mean,

yeah, my wife's little brother, like they're 21. Like the fuck do I have in common with a 21 year

old? Like you literally have my age. Yeah. I literally have 20 years of life on you. And like,

you're old enough to be his dad. Yeah. I mean, literally. And, but also like,

we all have a lot this love for these stupid motorcycles. And so like, yeah, let's go ride.

Let's hang out. Let's kick it. Same thing. I got some of my closest friends or, you know,

in their sixties, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, and those dudes, I fucking,

I hang out with them whenever we're around each other. I wish I had an old head homie.

I wish I had an old motorcycle head somewhere close in my area that I knew and I could just go

fucking sit in this garage and drink beers with them and let them fucking talk to me.

Just talk. Yeah. I want, I want to go. Those are the guys that like, we need to like cherish.

Yeah. 100%. And both those that you're talking about just, just amazing human beings.

Yeah. My old heads are, they're, they're not like the, like Hans is like an old head on,

he's been riding for years. Bruce has been riding for years too, but like they're,

I wouldn't put them in the category of like they're, they're like the guys,

like the wizards, like the old gray beard, like you just think of them and you just,

they are older and they're wiser and they give me a lot of great perspective in life that I

absolutely cherish. But I wouldn't say that they're the old gray beard wizard kind of.

Yeah. They're not, they're not, they're somewhere in between us and them. I want,

I want an old gray beard wizard guy like that. Yeah. Has more, you know,

time fucking wrenching on some shit than we do even being alive. Yeah. And that's,

I want, I want, I want to find one of those guys. Like those dudes are, uh, they're like

Pokemon cars. I'm telling you like that's, I, I, I hope I can be that guy someday for someone.

I really do. Like I want to be an old gray. I hope these like kids care enough to like

ever want to listen to that shit. They will. The generations, I think

it's every time all the old heads said to us, are you guys are fucking stupid when we were growing

up? Yeah. And here I am. I got kids and I'm like, you guys are fucking retarded. Like God help us.

But I mean, every generation is harder and hopefully, well, hopefully,

hopefully we'll be all right. I think the new ones, the new generation of kids are good. They're

like the one they're like, I mean, shit, they're dressing like the nineties and eighties and kids

and they're acting like it. They're, we're healing. We're healing. They're bullying each other again.

Hell yeah. Yeah. Just take the guns out. Keep just fight each other. Don't shoot each other.

Yeah. That's the only problem. I feel like gun culture is not as big in the young kids anymore

is, but like, I hope so. Yeah. I mean, I feel like my, I feel like they want to be more like

disconnected from like, what, how did your, my, so my daughter's nine and my son, he'll be

12, like in a couple of weeks. Okay. So like, yeah, I feel like they're, I mean,

they're all like super locked in on this stupid Roblox shit and like all that stuff. But like,

if you take that like one little thing out of it, like, they all want to be outside and they're

like trying to do shit. I just got my son and one of those like crazy e-bikes for Christmas,

dude, I'm, I'm going to buy one. I'm telling you right now. Like that's probably like you're

saying about the chopper thing. That's probably the most fun I've had riding of anything on two

wheels in a long time, just ripping around on his little e-bike. Bro goes like zero to like 50.

It's fast as like, it's kind of scary. Like it's like a super moto, like two stroke.

Yeah. But so is that you give that to a kid and now it's kind of, that's the only thing is a brick

at the park two miles away when it fucking dies because he didn't charge it.

Well, I, well, I'm teaching him to keep it charged and they have an 80 mile range or so.

Oh, they do. Yeah, dude. Like he, he's had it. He got it Christmas morning and he's got like 150

miles on it. Yeah. And it's just a little e-bike ripping around the neighborhoods. He has a little

area that I let him go. So like, but like, I'm telling you, like I'm going to buy one because

I want to, he has a like, there's like probably 10 little kids in the neighborhood that I'll have

them now for, and like, so they're all just riding around, but none of them have like really

have anybody to show them how to ride. So they're all teaching themselves, which

doesn't run with that. Yeah. But like, I want to get one and just be like, all right, guys,

let's go. Like we're ready to go. Fuck it. Be dumb. And probably someone's going to get hurt,

but at least there's an adult-ish person here to like navigate the chaos. If we have,

you can make that jump. I'm telling you, I'm going to be the one first one going.

I'm going to be the first one to get hurt. If something happens, like that's what needs to

happen. Bring back scab knees. Dude, I'm telling you, like it's a scab knees. That's life lessons

right there. Yeah. I was saying earlier, I like, I saw a little thing somebody posted. It was like,

we need to just social media needs to just go away for like a year. We need to like re recalibrate

ourselves. It's like a high school reunion. We need to, we need to go away and then come back

and show the like, Hey, this is what I became. Send everybody out, like make the fucking kids

unplug and go have fun. Go like they always say, go touch some grass. Like I tell my son,

like I get the fuck outside, but I will say, since he's got that fucking e-bike, he wakes up at like

eight in the morning, comes and wakes me up. Hey dad, can I, can I go hop on my bike? Like, yeah,

dude, just so I could, don't be dumb. Yeah. And, but like he's waking up before two hours, three

hours before he normally would have like on a not night, they're on Christmas break right now.

So they don't have school. So he's like, dad, can I see like, dude, like his one buddy is like,

dude, he, uh, my buddy Jeremiah texts me at like five 30 this morning. If we wanted to go ride our

bikes. I'm like, dude, I love this. Like get the fuck out and go do that. Like, yeah. Like,

could you imagine if we had something like that when we were growing up, a bike that could, was

fully capable, like a dirt bike, but it was quiet and it was fucking like that easy. It was a bicycle

that could go 50 miles an hour. Dude, you imagine we would probably all be dead, but all like,

but like, dude, he can just go every once. Like it's like an unlocked. No, I, I, I do like the

idea of it all coming out. It, you know, I wonder how much kids that maybe, maybe you take a,

a pool of the kids in a neighborhood and there's that one kid that really wants to go outside

and rip on a bicycle or skateboard, but everybody else in the neighborhood wants to be on a computer

playing fucking, you know, uh, you know, their best friend lives in another fucking city,

not the kid across the street that you have a lot in common with and you never will take

a chance to go meet them. Yeah. Right. I wonder how much like online shit. I think that's also

played into the adulthood thing going back to what we're talking about earlier with like you

knowing all this stuff exists and kind of seeing it, but then like, ah, well, I don't really need

to get out. I'm not missing anything. I'm going to catch the highlights on that's probably like a

on like one of those like, you know, subconscious things that you're not even, you don't realize

you're even doing that. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, ah, do I really miss it? Cause I can just get the

highlights and scroll the highlight reel. And I was, it's like, I was there and it's like, if you

do miss something really rad, it doesn't feel the same way because, you know, there's another bike

next week or, you know, two weeks or a month or whatever the case may be.

Um, yeah, there's, there's a lot of that. I think, I think in general, like some people

when they first get in a bike and they find a community, they really want, they're, they're

so stoked, but if you don't get the reciprocation from everybody or because everybody else is

in different phases of that thing, you know, that you get some people that are kind of jaded now

and they've just like, oh, whatever. And then you get the other aspect of motorcycle. I think

this happened as friends when we were kids is like your, your son right now ripping around on

the e-bike with all the other kids. Like it doesn't mean that he's like best friends with

all those kids, but they're finding a common ground together and maybe some of them will

curate into best friends. Some of them are just like, you know, I don't fuck with Derek Derek's

piece of shit. Derek's got an e-bike. So like I'll go ride with it. I'll go ride with it. Yeah.

Because Derek's Derek's on my favorite though, you know, on cap, you know, I don't really,

I don't really fuck with Derek like outside of here, but like, if we want to go rip around,

like you'll ride with Derek. I'm gonna go to his house though. That becomes the bike world.

Like that's us. Like, you know what? Well, I really like fucking so-and-so, you know,

but, you know, he's one of the dudes in our scene. So we, we, and we kind of all just kind of like,

I find myself doing that with like bike stuff. Like if you don't have a bike that I like,

I'll just be like me and I get stupid. That's a dumb fucking perspective to have. It's a stupid,

it's a really pretentious outlook on it. It is. Like it's a, like, why? What the fuck am I doing?

That's so cool. Why is my bike cooler than yours? It's not. I do agree that it's probably not the

best way to look at things, but I understand how easy it is to get in that perspective because

you're looking for commonality in somebody. And that's what I was gonna say. It's kind of more

like, so it's just like, we have a common ground. Like, like I said, when I see somebody on an FXR,

I immediately like approach them. Like I'm at your bike before your helmet's off. Like, what's up,

bro? Like, see you got an FXR. Like, let's talk about it. You know, and I've met some cool

friends that way. Like, but like, if it's not like what I'm into, I really just,

I'm just not into it. I don't know. I'm sorry. Like, if you want to come ride and hang out,

that's cool. I'm just, I'm not going to be stoked on your bike as like I would if it was an FXR

or something cool, you know, doesn't have to be an FXR. I like other cool bikes too. But like,

I also hate the people that think their shit is so cool just because I have a cool bike.

Yeah. Don't be that guy either. I really hate that. Like I, we were, me and my buddy, Tony,

were in, we went to a Myrtle Beach Bike Week just like on a whim, one of those like, you want to go,

oh yeah, cool. So we broke and rode down when I was living in Virginia. And like, some dude had a

cool ass like built up like done up road glide. And I was like, Hey dude, like that thing's sick.

And he's like, yeah, and just walks off. I'm like, bitch, like, you know what I mean? Like,

fuck you. Yeah. Who are you? Yeah. I was just trying to tell you your bike's cool. And he's

like, yeah. That was the conversation starter. Yeah. And he's just like, yeah. And then walks

off like, fuck you. You know, you're a fucking douche. I hate that. Like, I guess I, again,

that comes to the setting expectations. Like I just expect everybody to want to be like me.

And just like, as soon as I engage you to talk about motorcycles, I just want to, I want you to

be like, yeah, fuck, you know what I mean? Like it's definitely, I mean, not that I mean,

maybe he's not a douche. I don't know. Maybe just doesn't want to like, maybe he's not a

fucking super outgoing, like extravert type of person. I don't know. I feel like I've definitely,

I'm definitely the culprit of like being that guy and not all the time and not intentionally. It's

just it's more so like a no matter how I word this, it all sounds pretentious and fucked up.

Um, when you're, when you have like a bike that draws attention to it a lot of times,

then you're constantly getting that, you know what I mean? And you never know,

like I try to always be aware of it when it happens and try to be engaging.

But the level of alcohol I've had and the level of like, give a fuck. No, I mean,

I always give a fuck. The problem is like, the problem is like, I'm, I took my helmet off to

get gas and I'm getting gas and then the guy comes up and he, Hey man, I love your bike and,

you know, and like you want to engage in it, but like, like, how, like, how long are we going to

do this? And no, I definitely get that. Like part even saying that sounds, it feels no, not at all.

But like, don't be the guy that's just like, yeah, yeah, like if somebody comes up to you,

it's like, Hey dude, I really like your bike. That's awesome. Like what kind of bike is it?

And you're just like, Oh, thanks man. And like, I don't really have time to fucking talk to you,

like fuck off. Like essentially is what you're saying by just being a fucking prick. You know

what I mean? Like engage for like a minute or two and then be like, Hey man, like I could

sit here and talk to you for the next fucking two days about my bike and motorcycles, but like,

I'm kind of on a schedule. I got to get somewhere. Like I appreciate you. Like, but like fucking,

I got to go. Like, you know, I mean, there's ways to polite. I've learned how to navigate these

things. And there's a way you can come off without being a douche to be like, Hey man, like I

thank you. Like I really appreciate this conversation. And I would love to be able to just

in a different scenario, we can sit here for the next hour, we could pull over here, we can grab

a fucking talk hand and have a fucking conversation. But yeah, my schedule right now just doesn't

really, or my mental, I just don't want to fucking have a conversation with you right now. Like

I'm sorry. I don't owe you that. And I, you like, I don't owe you an explanation,

explanation of why I don't want to do that. Yeah. I thank you. I appreciate the fucking

this interaction. I just right now, this isn't what I want to fucking do. Like I'm sorry.

You know, like if I, that makes me an asshole, like I'm sorry. I think that like I've had

interactions early on in, in like, in being kind of known through social media, whatever,

like you're out at Sturgis or born free. Someone runs into you. I've been wanting to talk to you

and fucking not, not as bad as others. Like I don't have, I'm not like, Oh my God, I can't even turn

left and you know, nothing like that. Yeah. But I mean, that would be annoying too. For sure.

At first like, you know, I always try to engage, but then I also like realize, because I'm also

in that situation. There's times where like, Oh man, that's so, and so I love their bike

bills. I want to go in and have a conversation with you. So I, I understand the, the awkwardness

of trying to talk to somebody and not really knowing where to go with it. Like, Hey man,

I'd really love your bike bills. And so you're like, thanks. Like, yeah, it's like, thanks. But like

so because I've done that and had those awkward like pauses afterwards, I usually what I do now,

and if anybody's ever listened to this and known I've done it's like, I immediately turned it

around and go, Hey man, like, where are you from? Like, what are you writing? Like I immediately

get them talking about themselves, which I am generally interested in. But it alleviates that

kind of awkwardness that weird, like try to like small talk. It's almost like, Hey, Jase, I love

your FXR. I'm like, thanks, man. I appreciate it. And yeah, what do you have? What else? Yeah.

That's all you got. All right, man. Well, you have a good one. Like that. Thanks, bro.

Dab them up and like, it's so weird because like, I don't always have a follow up question to that

one, like, Hey, man, Chris, I love your FXR. Dude's sick. Yeah, I really appreciate that. Like

that look is badass. I'm the same way when people are like, Oh, man, I'm just like, thanks. Like,

I don't really know how to like engage this conversation. Like, none of us were ever supposed

to be like known like, I appreciate that. Like, I like that you like what I like. Yeah. That means

we might have something in common. Would you like to have a conversation about someone said it recently

on like a podcast where it's like, fame without money is like the worst thing in the world. Like

being known for something, but not being rich to go with it is like, it's bullshit. It's like, you

have all the expectations of a famous person, but you have nothing to justify your fame other

than the fact that people know who you are. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you have all the all the

expectations of being famous without the advantages and the perks that luxury. That's

not fucking hard. It's really not. I mean, I mean, honestly, you just got to be active. And

yeah, if you're just a lot of places, they see you at like, if you're like said, if you're at

every fucking event and you show up and you're just popping up at everybody's every event, every

bike night that's around, you go to you go, you're crossing state lines and you're showing up at

fucking this event and that event and even I think the the best way or the quickest way is to do the

smaller things. I mean, yeah, you go to Sturtis Daytona and fucking you get lost in the sauce.

Like, yeah, you're just a fucking one of another body of the you're one of the other 20,000 like

important people in the motorcycle industry there at that moment, you know, Daytona and

Sturtis are like, everybody in the motorcycle industry goes there that whole time. Yeah,

they're there the whole fucking time. Like you go to like the little, you know, the deadbeat. I

want to I really want to go to that deadbeat retreat. They do it up at the same place that

they do with the jam. Yeah, they just moved it because I guess they had some they had a fall

out like last minute with like two years ago, like with their venue. And it was like a couple

months before they were supposed to do it. And then the Blackthorn Resort was like, yeah, you

guys can do it here. And now it's like, that's their spot. Yeah, it looks fucking killer. Yeah,

I love that place. Anyways, just the jam going there. Like not even take the FXR jam out of that

place. That place is fucking cool. Yeah, like it is like one of those things. It's one of those

like it's nostalgic. It hasn't been touched in probably 20 years as far as this like everything

like some of those rooms like you're better sleeping on the ground. I don't want to go to a place

and the room is so nice. I don't want to leave the room. No, yeah, no, it's you definitely don't

want to spend time in your room. Yeah, it's like, like it's like getting a huge RV to go to a bike

event. It's like, bro, like you're gonna spend thousands of dollars and you're not going to

want to leave the RV because you spent all the money on that. Like, dude, just get a place to

shit, shower and sleep and then get out. Yeah, that's exactly it. I love that shit. Well, just

you know, to wrap that up, it's like the idea of like, I think over time I am working on being

better at interacting with people because right here we're engaged in a conversation across the

table, right? And this is how most people view or listen to me or know me, right? So when they

see me, they tend to have this like expectation of a dialogue. Exactly. Like I'm going to be this

engaged in them, but it could be at a bar in Sturgis, a gas station outside of Born Free,

a hotel on the way to the Uber to go to the fucking like, it's never the same thing.

And unfortunately, like, I'm a natural shit talker. That is my that's who I am. I love to talk

shit. And I don't do it to hurt people's feelings. I just love shit talking sometimes.

It's a good engagement. Like, and it's also it's going to tell me the type of person that like

how I can interact. That's why I like Mikey and Mark so much. Mark, Mark and I have had a really

professional relationship for a long time, and he's starting to be the shit talking Mark that I

know he is with me more. And that's the only mark I know. It's kind of weird sometimes. I'm like,

I don't know you as shit talking Mark, you know what I mean? I don't know him in a professional

setting. I just know Mark out like at on the bike, running around being like, Mikey, Mikey's like,

he was pretty, he was more professional when we first met. But as he realized, I also grew up

playing basketball, we talked shit like that. Like when we went down to Austin this last time,

yeah, absolutely bad. Blast hanging out with him. And Mikey's true personality is I love it.

But like, that's how I am in natural. Like, I like to talk shit to people. And

and it's easy when you're talking shit to each other. And like, you know, they're like, Hey,

we're just, we're just trying to poke fun at the thing and do the thing. Not like, Oh, well,

this dude has ulterior motive where he's now subconscious about what we're talking. You know

what I mean? Yeah. Like, I can just talk shit about like, I think that's for me, that's like,

like of the military. We were like at the house and I was talking shit to our buddy Mike. Yeah.

The genre was like, yeah, I don't care that he's on a fucking like adventure bike, but it was just

like fun. Yeah, of course. You're on your fucking your adventure bike, bro. Like, yeah, we're gonna

grow up and get a fucking Harley like the rest of us, whatever, like he's still one of the homies.

Exactly. He took it laughed and we kept going. Here we are. Yeah. And you just keep pushing. Yep.

That's the difference. Some dudes like, you know what? Jason's an asshole. Like he just,

he just, he's relentless. So I'm like, thank you. Yeah, you're right. I am.

Yeah. Maybe you could actually do something cool enough to like, I could talk shit about later

on. Yeah, I just, yeah, you have to like, honestly, man, if you can't, and like, if I talk shit to

you and you take that shit like a little fucking bitch and you're like, why are you being so mean?

Like, I already know I don't want to fuck with you. Like that tells me everything I need to know.

Like you're not a person that I'll interact with you in like a social setting and I'll be cordial,

but like you're not a person I'm going to fuck with. The shop world that I grew up in,

it's pretty harsh. Like I don't think that I would kind of go this far, but the first day I got,

I worked in the motorcycle industry, the shop I went to work for, they said, hey, when we start

we start joking about banging your wife. That's when you made it. Like you're in our group now.

Like that's what they said to me. Like, hey, when we start talking shit about banging your old lady,

or you know, whatever shop antics, you know what I mean? You go on a bike ride with your buddy

across the country and there becomes a saying joke the whole time, right? Well, when you work in a

shop with people, there becomes a cadence to like, right now we're joking about being gay.

That's what we're doing. Or right now we're joking about

husband and navy for 20 years. So exactly. So you like, I was shocked by it. I was like, uh,

well, I don't know how I feel like saying like, oh, like, you're white. You know, this is before

like a, yeah, you're like, how do I sell somebody? I'm going to fuck his wife like as a joke and

talking shit without like feeling like he's going to punch me in the face. Like, like with it being

like playful and fun, right? So it's like, there is an art form to shit talking that like,

I grew up in, in the motorcycle world. And obviously, if I can articulate it well, and

everybody takes it seriously, then I'm not doing a good job at it, right? But whatever. It's,

it's just the situation at hand, you know, like we said earlier, you can't fucking make everyone

happy. Fuck everybody else. Like I'm who I am. And that's, I'm going to be who I am. And if you

like it, then cool, let's hang out. And if you don't like it, I mean, then they don't listen to

the podcast and then hang out with me. Well, fair enough. But I mean, no, it's enough people

engaged that like that want to listen. So I'm sure I'm sure there's an equal number of people

that like you. I got a lot of hate listeners like, you know, like people want to talk,

they want to listen to just listen because they don't like, they don't like me or they don't

like this or they don't like whatever. Like they listen to critique. Yeah. I mean, whatever.

What's weird sometimes, like I, like I understand like the, like on YouTube, like the dislike button,

you know what I mean? But like the audacity for anybody to take the time to hit the

thumbs down button or like you were saying earlier, like to comment on people's shit to

like talk shit, like out of your day, like random strangers on the internet, you want to like talk,

have a fucking 14, you know, reply conversation, like talk shit talking, like, do you feel better?

Like, did you feel better? Like, did you accomplish something? Did you accomplish anything? No,

you just spend an hour every day talking shit to some person that doesn't give a fuck about

what you're saying. They're just doing it to make you all message boards in the van world.

When I started looking up like LS swap stuff or lowering stuff or whatever, you, you know,

I'm, I'm, I'm an OG in the world of like chat rooms. I understand the search my

shit before I asked the question, but reading the comments of previously asked searches,

dude, bro, it's brutal, brutal. And I'm like, man, I don't even want,

even whenever I had the answer, I don't want to put it out there because I don't want to deal

with somebody else is going to say like, you're fucking retarded. And that's not how it works.

I'm like, well, it worked all the way across the country. It's literally how it works. But

okay. Yeah. No, everybody, everybody, and a lot of those are just like bot accounts to

make engagement and shit. And it just gets y'all spun up for no reason, you know? And then here

you are arguing with some fucking nobody. It's not, it's a computer just engaging you. It's like

probably like twin, it used to be twin cam swap. Do you have to do the oil pan or

cut it or what? Like, and I don't know, man, like it just gets kind of difficult or like what's,

what's, you know, what works from this year to that year? Like those kind of things are

actually important to know. But I think it's also like the, the FXR bizarre book is kind of like

people need to like, if you really want to get involved in it, just like do your research,

man. Yeah, it's all out there. That's I mean, most of the shit I've learned is all been from

fucking just trial and error. Yeah, or ask somebody that has the knowledge like, Hey,

what do I need to do to fucking make this work with this? Yeah. Have you ever done that? Like,

yeah, you got to do this. All right, cool. Thanks. Yeah. Ask the question. That's the problem. A

lot of people don't want to people are too like prideful to like ask a question like that. Like

people are going to make fun of you. If they make fun of you, take the fucking shit talking,

take the razzling, and then also take the knowledge that they give you too. Yeah. Like,

don't take, don't be so sensitive. Like, I'll tell you the answer, but I'm going to talk shit,

but you're fucking retarded. Like you didn't know that, you know, I'm going to make you feel dumb

just because that's like, I'm not going to just give it to you for no reason. Yeah. Like, what fun

is that? They didn't just give it to me. Like when I asked the question, they talked shit to me too.

So I got to fucking, you know, I got to get mine back. Yeah. But I don't know, just, I think

that's the thing is like a lot of people are just scared to just like ask questions or just to do

it. Just go in and do it. Yeah. What's the worst that happens? You know, you break it. All right.

Well, it was already broken. So it ain't any, ain't any worse. Every time I think something's

like unobtainable or difficult, I look at how many people do it for a living or do it in general.

And then the type of person that do it and you're like, I could probably do that.

Yeah. Like that group of people built that house. I got this. I could probably figure it out.

I got this. Yeah. Yeah. All right, man. We'll do three something hours,

three hours and 12 minutes. Bro, it'd be going like that. I can do it. I was, I was wondering,

I'm like, I wonder if we're gonna be able to keep this going. But I knew it was going to go this

way for fucking days. I, I, when we, when we hung on outside, I knew it was going to be able to go

flow like this and just bounce around a shit because of like, like I said, I don't know. I'm

just like plugged into that. I mean, it's what you do. Yeah. So I would just, I mean,

you should kind of know what you're doing. I hope. Well, I mean, just like I knew, you know,

like, I can ask you a question about a bike and all these things I learned about you. I'm like,

oh, we can go through all these, you know, loopholes and rabbit holes or whatever the fuck

you want to call it to get around to like different information and obviously, you know,

I don't know a lot about much, but I know a lot about, I know a little about a lot. That's for

sure. I can, I can talk about, I know a bunch of little things, random facts about a ton of

little things, but yeah, I can just, I can do this for days. My wife's like, you could just

tie it for hours. Like how do you don't get sick of talking about this shit with people?

I'm like, no, not really. Yeah. I could go on. No, when you like the vibe, you know what I mean?

When you like the vibe of the person, it's really easy to keep those conversations going. Yeah, for

sure. Yeah. I was going to, I'm really thinking about you're in the studio here and I'm really

been thinking that I bring this up to you about the couch situation. I'm thinking about going

couches. I think that'd be cool. Like just where you're just kind of more, a little more like a

little less formal, if you will, like a little more kind of this is traditionally like when I

think of a podcast with the idea of what Joe Rogan has done forever. Like this, this is the most

natural form of a podcast, but it does kind of create a little bit of a like, like right now,

the way the table is long ways. This is like, usually the table will be long ways like this

when we'd be sitting that far across. And that feels a little better. A little more engaging

and personal. This is better for camera angles because you can get a better like one like shot

of you. And when it's, when we're super close, when we're super close, it's like way more of a

side shot. So if you put like a couch and a couple of little love seat type chairs or some shit,

you can get individual cameras hitting the individuals, but like you'll be more like,

like you're kind of like looking at each other, but you're, you know what I mean? Like you're not,

it's not like a, yeah, yeah, I know. I guess that makes sense too. I mean, I could see how

either way. To me though, like I fidget and I move a lot. So the table helps me kind of like hide

shit. Like I could be doing my leg like this and it doesn't really show up. But I started

noticing it's on some people's podcast that the, the shots that they're doing of them is like just

like of, you know, chest up head, kind of like what I think this is kind of. So I could still have

like my movement down there, my, you know, fucking fidget spinner, you know, whatever going on.

I don't know. Trying to figure out how to keep things like feeling fresh and new and shit.

I was like that, like the DJ Vlad, like very tight in like head shot shot. I was saying,

looks good too. It's literally from like here up. Yeah. But yeah, those shots are kind of like,

they're not hard to get, but like also like say, for instance, when I do these, like the

Well, I, yeah, I guess.

Yeah, it's like, he's, yeah, it's kind of weird now.

But now it's just thinking about it, like trying to, I mean, I don't really have money to buy a

couch and all that shit right now, but just in times when you're like, yeah, podcast opportunities

and like it's, it is when I, when I've been traveling, just doing one camera angle. It's so,

it's so easy to set it and forget it and like do the podcast and I have to sit there and

flip cameras back and forth. And I just, I don't know how much people really

care. How much value you're getting out of the flipping camera thing.

Yeah. Which I do like the aspect of doing. I think it adds a level of professionalism,

but I just don't know how much it really,

like when I, even when I listen to a Rogan or a Flagran or whatever podcast I listen to,

like I'm barely watching it. I'm listening to it and I'm catching a glimpse.

You're usually kind of in the car while you're driving or something or you're in the,

or you're in the shop and you're not really watching it, watching it.

Yeah. Right, man. I want to wait until you get done, PPN.

It was a good time, man. We got to do more of this shit more often.

Dude, I'm, like I said, I got another part of time. So it gives me an excuse to get the

fuck out of the house and actually do something. So, uh,

Incaholic, we never even talked about that. Like where the, I guess your tattooed.

Yeah. It was, I mean, I should, it was like 2010 when I made that shit. I know. And I'm like,

I want to change it, but I'm like, I just can't now. Like it's, it's, it's there.

It's synonymous with it. I don't trust people that change their Instagram names.

Yeah. I'm like, it's there. It is what it is. I was, you know, it was fucking,

what was that 15 years ago now, something like that. So I wasn't 40 yet, 15 years ago. So

how's this a dumb kid 25 years old? I thought I was cool. So, yeah, that's a, there's,

there's a staring that's there. I'm Incaholic 1904 for fucking life. I guess everybody,

my wife always talks to it in 1904. That's a San Diego. Yeah. Yeah. So it's kind of,

it's there, but it's funny because like all the like East coast, like jam guys, they're all like,

they, they know me as Virginia Beach Chris. So it's like, but I'm not even Virginia Beach anymore.

So yeah, but yeah, I'm, I'm down to do this anytime. I like, I can talk, I can do this

year for days. So yeah. So you got, yeah. I mean, I appreciate you doing it.

Well guys, I hope you enjoyed that. I wanted to try to jam out a podcast for you guys before

the end of the year. And here it is. I hope you, I hope you enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

I had a great time talking with Chris. I want to thank him for coming out and doing it.

I want to thank Devin for coming in and running the cameras. If you're listening,

or if you, you're definitely not listening to the video version of this. So there's that.

Anyway, you know, support the podcast guys. It's, it's how we keep this going. We're able

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it. 25 has been a rough one in a lot of ways, a great one in a lot of ways. Either way,

you know, I'm excited for 26 and we got a lot of good stuff coming. So thank you. We'll see you

next year. All right, peace.

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