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Gas Is About to Get Expensive! Carrera GT Values Skyrocket! $100K Subaru STI?!

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Porsche Carrera GT

The Porsche Carrera GT is a very fast and special sports car made by Porsche. It has a powerful engine and is rare, so many people want to own one.

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Kia Stinger

The Kia Stinger GT is a fast and sporty car made by Kia. It looks nice and drives well, and it costs less than many other sports cars.

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electric-only model

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manual transmission

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all-wheel drive

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Caterpillar

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Ford F-250

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John Deere

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Ford F-250 Super Duty

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vintage cars

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carburetor

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Ferrari 550

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Ferrari 599

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OE wheels

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Hummer H3

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EV

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IMSA

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Formula 1 (F1)

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Formula One

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Hello and welcome to this car pod.

I'm Flippo.

I'm Crazy Nick.

I'm Doug.

Nick, stand up.

Stand up.

Show us what you're wearing today.

What is this, Nick, that you have here for us?

Someone sent us some beautiful swag, which I'm a large, usually medium on the short,

but whatever you would like.

But the Fast and the Furious exhibit is coming to the Peterson.

I assume that's why it was sent to us.

Show us the pants again.

The pants?

They say...

The pants say Fast and the Furious all over.

Pockets ain't empty.

At some point it says Pockets ain't empty, which is of course the famous line from Fast 2,

which is our favorite.

Flippo's in mine.

Yeah, it's...

There's something.

They're really something.

You're going to wear these around?

Yeah.

Okay.

All right, let's start with...

That's some news.

That's something.

Let's start with some real news, which is the Carrera GT.

Flippo, have you been following Carrera GT prices?

Incredibly?

I have, Will.

Yeah.

Okay.

There is a golf blue.

By the time you're watching this video, it'll be today.

Golf blue Carrera GT, there's only like 30 paint to sample Carrera GTs.

Out of how many were made?

Out of...in the U.S. there were 650 Carrera GTs, only 30 were paint to sample.

The reason for that is Carrera GT tires are not annoying pedants.

They're people who wanted to actually enjoy a car, rather than be like,

Blah, I've got a green.

Who likes to turn my turn somebody off?

Anyway, but one of them's coming up for sale and it's golf blue, which is a color that

some people like...

She has to say no, some people do.

I have been anxiously watching the Carrera GT pricing, and I'm nervous to drive my car.

And I have not driven my car all that much in the last few months.

Prices have increased, you think what, 30% since you bought?

No.

Considerably more than that?

Well, I'll tell you this, Johnny Lieberman and his pals, over at that company that buys

cars and sells them for profit.

Shirts, maybe I'm wearing their shirt.

Drift, it's like drift capital.

Johnny Lieberman had signed on to some company that buys cars as investments and then resells

them later.

Sure.

They bought a Carrera GT publicly two and a half years ago for 1.7 million and sold it

this week for 3.3, all in including fees, which is 100% increase.

If you take fees out of bull transactions, it was like an 86% increase.

And I compared it to the stock market and the market's up like 51% in that time.

And yeah.

Serious.

It's real.

You gotta stop driving.

You gotta just sell your car.

Just think I should sell.

I do.

I'm very nervous to drive it.

I did drive it here today.

It's over there.

And it is such an amazing experience.

Would it be better if it was golf blue?

No, but it would be more special.

I think a lot of people would consider it more special.

After all this time, I still think I have come around to the belief that silver is the

best color for that car.

Yeah.

I still don't like my 4GT color.

I still wish my 4GT was a different color.

Nonetheless, this is being sold at Broad Arrow, which is Haggerty's auction.

Is that a competitor to us?

They do in-person auctions.

In-person high-end cars.

They're probably a competitor, but if you're going to watch, you should.

They got this thing.

They have a $6 million estimate on it.

How many miles?

I don't care.

$2,000.

Oh, that's more than I expected for $6 million.

But $6 million estimate.

The last two career GTs that just sold sold for over $3 million.

Yours is high mile in the world of career GT.

In the world of USA career GTs minus high mile.

Yeah.

They pretty commonly come up in Europe with 20,000 miles of kilometers.

Yeah.

Pretty common.

You're at 15,000.

I'm approaching 16,000.

Wow.

You've done 6,000 miles as much.

I've done 6,000 miles.

I have definitely lost value as a result of that.

However, there are probably only a few dozen people on the planet that have done 6,000

miles in a career GT.

Also, the value of the car is up 80%.

Yeah.

It's okay.

You know what?

I was driving it today and I've been a little bit beating myself up about the miles, some

of which have been BS.

I drove it into work today and I was like, of course I've done 6,000 miles as a car.

It is the greatest damn drive that has ever existed.

Being friends with Doug DeMiro is just getting subjected to that console.

Like once a day, we have to hear how great the car is.

The courage is a different car.

No, no, no.

Only the courage is in the Countach.

Or the G-wagon.

And they both occupied, no.

Never talked about how great that car is.

Every summer we get unrequested.

Photos.

But I never sit there going, boy, this thing's great.

Correct file.

No, I think you should go back and look.

I don't think I'm ever on the record talking about how that car is anything other than

kind of stupid.

If there's one thing I know that is true is whatever you most recently drove is the

greatest car I've ever made.

No.

The Carrera GT is the greatest driving car and the Countach is the greatest car and

that's it.

There are no exceptions.

Remember when he had his Kia Stinger and everything?

Kia Stinger, greatest car I've ever made.

That is certainly not the greatest car I've ever made, but that Stinger GT is such a dip.

Pull up Stinger GTs.

What are we selling them for?

Nothing.

Can you get them for under $20?

Yes.

Is that true?

I mean, we only sell really nice ones, but...

We have it in the market report, but you can get some good cars for under $20 now.

Nick doesn't understand the nuance.

Nick is not a nuance man.

I'm a GT2 guy, not a GT1 guy.

And so he doesn't understand the nuance when I say the greatest car I've ever made versus

the greatest driving car I've ever made.

The greatest car I've ever made is the Countach.

It just is.

That's just true.

That's objective.

I think that's objective.

It's not that I don't understand the nuance.

I stop listening to you as soon as you say greatest.

These are under $20,000.

$20,000.

I mean, what did you buy?

It was $30,000 two years ago.

Yeah.

And it's a Kia.

It was five years ago.

Six years ago.

Ten years ago.

I love this car.

There you go.

There's yours.

Oh, man.

Wow, that was all the money.

Well, then it was COVID.

I mean, crazy stuff was going on.

What a car.

I love this car.

I still do.

Let's hope that Carrera GT sells for a big number.

You should keep driving yours regardless.

I will not worry.

Sell for a low number.

So he drives.

Are you not worried?

Are you not anxious when I drive my car now?

No.

Really?

Should I be?

Would you be if you were me?

I mean, you've got this thing insured.

There are other Carrera GTs.

If something horrible happened, like life would go on.

I don't want you to get injured.

You sure would never insure me on anything again.

It would insure me on a wheeled office.

Well, now that you just plugged their auction coming up,

like there you guys are.

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to crash it, but you'll keep.

It depends on what happened.

Be reasonable.

If somebody heads you, they will cover you in the future.

The point is I'm terrified.

Yeah.

Move on to the next new story.

But I'm still enjoying it.

Did you enjoy seeing it when you walked in today?

I did.

Actually, it looks good.

It does.

And you keep it pretty clean.

Yeah.

I'm proud of you for that.

If there's more time washing the wheels than he does driving it.

Well, that's true of my 993, but not any of my other cars.

The 4G is so dirty right now, and I got to take it to Carrera.

I know.

Anyway, move on.

Oh, boy.

Also scary.

Oh, my God.

Whoa.

What's happening?

There's a boat in another boat.

This must be a car news story.

Yep.

We are currently waging war in Iran, and it turns out that about a fifth of the world's

oil is transported to the trade of Hormuz.

There are a lot of concerns about ship safety through the strait.

And as a result, there's a lot of concerns about both oil production release and transport

of oil, which generally analysts expect will mean that gas prices in the U.S. and everywhere

else go up.

So they went up by the most they've gone up in a single day overnight on Monday by 11%.

There's an expectation that gas prices will go up a little bit more, and that is the

car connection today.

Nick, what are we going to do?

You know what?

As constant as time, I remember when gas went from like $1 to $2, and everyone's like,

we've got to find geometros, and oh, my gosh, the excursion, how wasteful.

We overreact both directions and think, oh, well, now we've got to get EVs again.

This will pass.

Nick, do you have any comments on, Trump came in and said he was going to be the affordability

president.

Everything would get cheaper.

He showed up, implemented tariffs, and went to war with Iran.

Do you have any comment on that and what is there for it to happen?

I don't want to be the one who says anything because people get mad at me, but you're wearing

that and clearly have no shame.

I have no defense to that statement.

I mean, we'll see.

There have always been skirmishes related to oil production, again, going back many, many

wars.

Geopolitical analysis for Nick here.

I was a poly-5 major.

Thank you very much.

There are skirmishes related to oil production.

So we'll see.

I mean, if this drags on for a while, yes, that could impact oil prices in a way that impacts

our ability to daily drive or what cars.

I want you specifically to talk about Trump and affordability.

That's where I want us.

We can bring it into cars.

There's tariffs.

There's gas prices.

How do you feel about that?

Gas prices aren't a good indicator of the overall problem of inflation.

They are maybe a contributing factor, but people get like, oh, the price of eggs.

It's like, okay, well, eggs are like one asset or one good that you should factor into a

CPI, but they are not the totality of such.

And so, yes, gas prices go up and down over time.

They are not constant.

He's like an apologist for Trump.

You know what?

So they go up.

So they go down.

I do not.

I just love it.

The tariffs.

The other country pays the tariffs.

I go out of my way to make sure no one can guess where I stand on the issues.

Nick, let me ask you this question.

Now that the tariffs have been repealed, are you, because you paid him for both the A2

and the multiply, are you going to go to Trump and say, I want my $400?

By the way, you could.

I think so.

Just shoot him an email.

The U.S. government is requesting a bunch of additional time to come up with a process

for tariff refunds.

Keep in mind, there are still 10% refunds across the board that are going up to 15% theoretically

this week.

Europe may be accepting refunds.

No.

Additional tariffs.

But the tariffs were ruled unconstitutional and you paid them.

I want to be really clear because you have been constitutionally wronged and you need

to be made whole.

I did recently buy a NanoCom scanner for my P38 from Great Britain and I was worried about

the tariffs and now I don't have to.

DHL would just like send you a bill for like a hundred bucks and be like, this is what

we calculated.

It made no sense.

I just paid it.

Really?

You paid that one too?

We're going to start buying stuff.

No, not for this one, but for my mother's stuff, like it just ended up being...

I want to be really clear because people do come to us for actual facts.

There are a lot of tariffs that were applied over the last year.

Some of them are still considered by the Supreme Court to be legal and so still apply.

But there were some under specific authorization that did not, but all of the kind of national

security related ones related to production of steel, et cetera, still apply and there's

additional tariffs now, 10% globally, going up to 15% globally, with maybe some carve

outs.

This is why I got to get the C55 wagon in now.

We're waiting.

I got to bring that thing in now.

Following my footsteps.

Or we got to change the VIN so it starts with a four.

All right.

Gas prices shooting up.

Career GT prices shooting up.

What else is there?

That's it.

Oh, someone's shooting up a Cayenne.

9.57, baby.

I have so many questions.

There was not a hybrid Cayenne on this generation.

They were just trying it all out.

I like the thing is the trans-Ciberia is sort of scripting on the side here.

The trans-Ciberia was like trans-Ciberia.

Here they're, oh, the hybrid.

Well, the trans-Ciberia was kind of a Louis car when it came out too.

Deeply.

Now it's cool.

This is Saturn view hybrid level stuff.

All right.

Regardless, we're not actually talking about the Cayenne.

It's like our dad trying to keep us so badly in time.

So trying.

I'm really trying.

Chuck E. Cheese.

This is an important news story, but what do you get?

All right.

So Porsche, we've been talking, we've talked in the past about how they're planning on

coming out with a flagship SUV.

Audi is going to come out with the Q9, which will be their new largest SUV.

Porsche will have an equivalent model that they have codenamed K1.

Since we first learned about this, it was supposed to be an electric-only model.

But now they have confirmed that it will be launched with a V6, a V8, and some plug-in

hybrid power trans.

Electric is still going to come down, but down the line.

Apparently they're not happy with, let's be honest, where demand is, and also apparently

with their actual development of the electrical component.

You got to wonder what it's like in Porsche right now.

All these things that were set in stone, probably frozen past what the design freeze

is, they're completely have to rethink all these cars.

And you know that some styling decisions are made on electric vehicles that wouldn't have

been made on gas vehicles, so you have to assume there's styling design changes.

Totally.

Because if you're designing it just for EV, you don't have to worry about cooling in

the same way.

You don't have to worry about airing.

But you are worried about aero a little bit more.

You're worried about maybe a larger low-foot traffic.

Yeah, for sure.

Your sound deadening and isolation is different because of the different noises.

There's that thin that comes on the back of the Cayenne.

I still haven't seen a Cayenne EV.

You won't.

I got to tell you, I drove up to LA to shoot the Cayenne EV in whenever that was, because

it was just coming out.

It was a big deal.

They had a few of us come to some studio and shoot it.

I shot it, along with a bunch of other new cars that were coming out in December last

year.

No one watched that video.

Which is an indicator, I think, of demand for that car.

Yep.

This will, in theory, come out in the Q9, will come out in 2027.

This will come out 18 months later, some of that.

A four-seat, five-seat and seven-seat layout.

In theory, it will be the first seven-seat Porsche.

This is a Range Rover competitor.

Are you aware of that?

I mean, I'm shocked they haven't done that yet.

Well, I think Porsche has had trouble trying to get a vehicle of that size to conform to

their desires and requirements for performance handling.

But I think at some point, these automakers just realized it's all about the Benjamins.

You know, I just reviewed the original X5, the first X5, and BMW was so concerned about

the M brand at that time being put on an SUV that they didn't allow it.

And the high-performance versions of the original X5 were called the 4.6 IS and the 4.8 IS.

They were so cool.

Now the M brand has been applied to every tube sock that they can sell on their website.

They've learned that that's how you sell cars.

By the way, fun fact, this will be built in Slovakia alongside the Q9 and the Cayenne EV.

You know, I still don't understand that.

Which Slovakia? It's a country.

I've been there. Have you been to Slovakia?

No. Love brought to Slovak. Great town. Saw some cool cars there.

My favorite part of this picture is how clearly you can see the plastic window regulators

that you know are broken on every car built in this generation.

I haven't done so many window regulators.

Why have they ever made them out of the chinsiest plastic known to human kind?

I had an E53X5, just like that one, also stuck.

And I replaced two windows regulator in the six months I owned it.

I'll tell you this. I worked at Porsche when this generation Cayenne was on sale.

And I will never forget, it was the recession.

We were just coming out of the recession and previously they had allowed company cars

to be kind of flamboyantly ordered and the company would lose money on them

but the employees were happy and the recession that all stopped.

And every single Cayenne we ordered during the recession was on these 12-inch deep base wheels,

base model Cayenne, no full leather. The dash looked like elephant skin.

It was a depressing period.

This is what you want now, because for an off-road build, having the smaller brakes

that you could fit like beefy tires on.

Every Cayenne we ordered for the company was a base V6.

It's embarrassing to look at right now, but modded. It's great.

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Hybrid's definitely the way to go. I'm excited for that when it comes out.

Big news. Jay Leno has a 1954 Buick.

Folks, I bet you didn't expect that.

No, the Leno's law thing is back on the books in California.

It won't pass because our legislature is a bunch up.

I'm not going to say the words I'm thinking.

Thank you.

Oh, he feels like he has braces.

So last year we talked about a set of bill 712 that would have increased exemptions for classic cars.

In California.

The goal was that California right now, classic cars going back to 76 or something have to be small.

And it's obviously laughable. Nobody does it.

Everybody just registers in Arizona and Montana.

And so finally someone put forth a rational thing here like, hey, let's just let's just exempt these cars from small.

Nobody's driving 1980s cars anyway, because they were all utter and the bill got killed by a bunch of libs.

And so now it's back.

And this time Filippo tells me that there's even a Lib sponsoring it from San Jose, which is like Lib Haven.

Last year it was sponsored by a state senator from Bakersfield.

They do have a co-sponsor on it.

Bakersfield, you knew that was going to fail.

No bill that comes out of Bakersfield passes unless it's related to water rights.

And then they just trust that the Bakersfield people know what they're talking about.

It would basically mean that as a starting point vehicles pre-1981 are exempt as long as they are not the daily driver for them.

And then it would increase year after year after year.

35 year rolling exemption through 86.

So through 2030.

Which I think is a start.

I mean, it's onerous.

You can't even find smog places to smog these cars.

So that's the other thing people do is they just give us some money under the table, not that we know anyone who's done that.

I don't know anywhere you can get a dirty smog in California for God's sake.

Yeah.

Definitely don't go on Facebook marketplace looking for people that say,

pay only when you pass smogs and then have modified cars as the picture.

So it's definitely aren't dog whistles to get dirty smogs.

Those are just hardworking small businessmen looking to attract new customers in the most legitimate way possible.

Have you ever done dirty smog?

You haven't, have you?

You've done a lot of schedule.

Regardless of the answer, don't.

No, but truly, I don't think you have.

I have a unique approach to problem solving when this particular venue and arena and I prefer not to go that way.

There are other solutions.

SB 1392, which is what this is called, has some improvements,

legitimate improvements over last year.

So it would be defined as somebody's non, basically the owner's,

something that's not the owner's primary mode of transportation.

Last year, there was a lot of vague language.

We're on collector and insurance.

Getting collectors insurance.

It's not like they have to write this from scratch.

And plenty of other states have similar, you know what I mean?

Arizona, you get like a copper plate.

This is historic.

It's baller.

Every other state.

The whole stuff is so laughable.

California is the only state that is still requiring these.

And so the result is that they just have simply missed out on the tax revenue.

Like all these people are still the amount of cars from this era that are still being driven to the exact same degree in California as every other state.

They're just not registered in California.

And that's just the situation.

And so maybe finally we're going to get some.

So if you think this should pass, maybe write to your representative.

I wrote to my state senator who is a Lib and I discovered something.

Do you know that there are more US Congress people who represent California than state senators?

In other words, your state Senate district has more people than your US congressional district.

Well, there is also.

I didn't get a reply.

There is.

There's also the US, excuse me, the California House of Reps that.

Well, yeah, but it's starting in the Senate.

I don't know, but you can sort of write to your other.

You got to get it past the Senate first for Libo.

Jay Leno will tell you everything about that.

The man is supported this law from its infancy.

If you care, you should reach out to your reps.

No, they don't care.

They do not care.

They have no accountability.

If you think that they have no accountability to people, maybe consider running for office or finding a candidate to run for office.

Or just leave California.

Can you imagine Doug is a political person?

I hate him all.

Move on to the next one.

All right.

Oh, geez, I'm so sorry.

BMW accidentally leaked their 2027 lineup and there's not that much all interesting here.

It is a couple of things.

Most notably, there will be an M2X drive.

Yeah.

So an all wheel drive M2.

That's cool.

That'll be cool.

Here's why it's notable.

Yeah.

Why is it not called the M2 competition?

Right.

The M3 all wheel drive is called the competition and the base model is just the M3.

Yeah.

There will also be an M350X drive.

There'll be a bunch of new models that frankly are not that interesting or surprising.

There will be a new X5 coming out in 2027, which I am actually kind of excited about.

You know, I was looking.

X5 came out in like 18, 4GEN.

It's been an enormous amount of time.

Sometimes you wonder if the IX was intended to be the next gen X5 and then they had to

figure all out.

The I3, the G3 series will also be coming out with an I340X drive, an I350X drive, a 350X

drive, an M350X drive, all the normal ones.

It's no longer the 340, it'll be 3.

So there's going to be an I3.

Yes.

So the new class, it will be the 3 series.

That's all coming for 27.

Apparently.

Wow.

That's big.

They're going to be revealed soon.

And this is, having an all-wheel drive M2 I think is going to be pretty cool.

I assume it's going to be tip-only though.

You've got to assume.

I don't think they have an automatic.

If it's over 406 foot pound of torque.

Got no choice.

So it might also be more powerful.

I have no idea.

They also are having a track pack for the M2 that is like canards and some like track

focused mods.

Like this is still the swan song I think.

M2 remains such a damn good car.

And with all-wheel drive it just adds a little bit more.

But then it's automatic.

Damn goodness.

Maybe the fact that they're not calling it a competition actually gives you a little

bit of...

That's an interesting point.

Because at some point they said the competition models will never have manuals anymore because

manuals are supposed to be the fastest.

So maybe they're still going to stick a manual in the all-wheel drive one.

No manual per other reports.

Damn.

Too bad.

The facelift thinga too it says.

Hard to know because only the lineup got leak nut photos.

The schnauz has grown on me a little bit but I wouldn't mind a facelift.

The M2 looks fine I think.

I never thought it looked bad.

The M3 has never gotten better looking.

But I still think it's the coolest in the car.

It's gotten more special.

Like it feels more special than when it first came out.

Man I saw green when yesterday.

I know.

I love it.

Yup.

So that's what BMW were real.

And they revealed their lineup a year in advance.

Accident wise.

Yeah.

All right.

This is the best insurer of the week.

Yeah I agree.

Although the car's not quite a radical design that I was hoping for.

But Caterpillar who's famous for making all sorts of heavy equipment and being very industrial

is going to have their own pickup or at least this is a concept of such based on the F-250

which no one has to tell you by looking at it that it's based off the F-250.

But a lot of it is actually more they've modified it for heavy equipment use for work site use.

So it has AI which sounds a little bit like a buzzword.

But all of the mods and technology is focused on job site.

Which makes sense.

I'm reading this thing here and it says that AI generated images were posted on the Internet

in late 2024 supposedly not by Caterpillar.

And then Caterpillar is quoted here as saying you couldn't look away from those photos

and we couldn't either.

And now they're talking about actually doing this.

Because AI images convinced them to do it.

Yup.

Do you think that's how the Lincoln Bronco came to be?

No I think it was all because of you.

It was all because of me.

Well and that is especially ironic because you look at this and you think I can look away.

It's an F-250 with a different grille.

Apparently they will have a bunch of other things.

So there will be a drone launching station, monitoring systems, camera systems, whatever.

The interesting part is like Caterpillar and other heavy machinery companies

and tractor companies, John Deere too.

They've really in the last few years leaned in hard on technology.

The new Caterpillar and heavy industrial vehicles are like quite technological.

So it makes sense that they have a bunch of tooling that might plug into that

to help you monitor your construction sites, help you monitor your fuel or whatever.

Yeah but Filippo...

I mean I don't think this is real to be clear but...

Don't they have a tacit agreement with the automakers?

We stick to the stuff that digs and pulls.

That's why they're buying a F-250.

You stick to the trucks.

You know what I mean?

Don't they have like a...

You know what I'm saying?

I think that...

Like why doesn't Nicaragua just build a canal?

What?

I get where you're going.

Do you?

I don't.

Well like...

They have left the vehicles...

Nicaragua does the heavy equipment.

Yeah Nicaragua...

Why doesn't Nicaragua show up and be like screw you, we're gonna do it too!

You know what I'm saying?

I think it's really expensive to build a canal.

Yeah it's expensive but they got this giant lake in Nicaragua.

That's most of the town right there.

Maybe this is like the Mercedes McLaren SLR where they just needed a little help

to get it off the ground before they go all in.

My point is simply that it's an interesting situation.

What stops other people from kind of getting into some...

Huge domain of vehicles that they sell, of construction equipment that they sell

and maintain and make a lot of money from selling, maintaining, upgrading, etc.

to large fleets of construction companies, etc.

Are they not happy?

If they can sell one more thing, that's kind of interesting.

But Philippe, and by the way, it will be one, one more thing.

You don't think they're gonna do it?

I have to be honest, I'm a little...

As a fan of the automakers, I'm a little disappointed in Caterpillar to see them...

They're using a Ford F-250.

Step in.

You think that's not a Silverado?

The headlights are F-250.

It's definitely a Super Duty.

But the squared wheel arches are all...

Definitely a Super Duty.

I think it's just AI.

The company said customers dreamed of torque and towing power.

Those were the easy parts for Caterpillar.

So we went further to see how we can help them even more.

I'm a little bit anxious about this.

Isn't that gonna happen, obviously?

Don't you think it should have been the F-650 or a side kick or top kick?

Like the true semi-truck bottom to it?

Yes.

Why do you think it's not gonna be like that?

Well, an F-250 is not that.

Well, they're not gonna make it on an F-250.

They're gonna build...

Construction...

I don't want this to go to construction people.

I want it to go to the top dog in the Midwest that just flexes on the neighbors.

That is also the construction person, usually.

You have to assume that's like how the Hummer got to came to be, right?

It was a military thing and then it went to the top dog in the Midwest that flexes on his neighbors.

How many Hummers you see in Ohio when you were a kid?

That was probably a big deal.

A neighbor or a friend's brother had one of those Chevy-based like 6500 top kick cars.

No way!

Nice.

He put like a $100,000 stereo system so the whole floor was plexiglass to see all the amplifiers and stuff.

And that was literally the king of the Midwest.

Yeah.

Like it was so baller.

That's how we know you're from a rich town.

This guy really would be the king of the Midwest because Caterpillar's an Illinois company or something, right?

Who knows?

What do you mean, who knows?

You're not interested in the...

I believe they are in like Illinois.

What do you say?

Peoria, Illinois.

It's going to guess Peoria.

Okay.

It's crazy to imagine in this day and age anybody coming out with a gas powered, a new gas powered car.

Every time there's like a new automaker or a new vehicle.

A diesel, certainly.

Well, okay, but it's not electric.

Of course that's diesel.

It's Caterpillar.

But it's like crazy to imagine like every time we just got a new vehicle.

This is an F-250 with some livery.

They're not going to rebadge an F-250.

If they actually do this, they're going to build a full roundup truck.

No shot that's happening.

Why do you think that's not going to happen?

Nobody else has tried either for a reason.

It's really effective to develop a truck.

Yeah, but it's especially expensive to break into a segment with established names.

But Caterpillar, if you're going to do it, there's a name.

Nothing says tough and heavy duty like that.

Great logo too.

Yeah, I agree.

The best.

Move on.

What do we got?

Thankfully we're done.

Oh my God.

We're done with the news early today, which means we have a lot more things to talk about.

Yes, we do.

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Nick, tell us about the P38.

I got on a three-way conference call last night where another L322 owner and I are thinking of each trading in a circle.

So one 322 owner wants to upgrade to a nicer autobiography one of which I would take his and then I would dump my P38 on the original guy, Hunter, who owns a lot of P38.

Can I ask you a question?

I'm legitimately considering it.

This is the best one.

This is the 0.9.

Can 0.9 autobiography be the dream L322?

You have one that I use as a comp, which is a 2010 with timing chains done, which is the pinnacle one in this three-way trade.

Also, there's cash involved here.

Oh, for sure.

Although all of us are well aware that our cars are largely value-less.

Can I ask you a question?

You're going to follow my footsteps again, huh?

You know what's great?

I don't mind.

How did this start?

How did you get on this three-way conference call?

Can I respond to that?

There's no defense.

The P38, I love the P38.

The only way to get out of it would be to dabble in other Range Rover full sizes.

I mean, correct.

And so I'm looking for a life raft and someone threw one and said, hey, do you want to trade?

And it's like, that is the only way I can financially justify getting out of it.

Have you ever driven an L322?

So much better.

I'm going to tell you this.

When you make this swap, you will never go back to a P38.

And suddenly you'll drive the L322 and be like, oh, this is why people like Range Rovers.

I thought they were all rough, loud, awful, terrible pieces of trash that had good seating positions.

But actually, they're really nice cars that have good seating positions.

My eight-pillar trim fell off the other day while driving.

And I tried to push it in.

I go like that and just punched a hole through it.

Now my eight-pillar is all in it.

Did you disclose that on the three-way conference call?

No, but I said it was rough.

I'm going to tell you something.

This is the L322 you want, an 09 autobiography.

That is the dream L322.

That's before the engine change.

It's had some of the interior and other upgrades that the 10s had,

but it has the good reliable powertrain, the 06 to 09s.

And there are no 09s because the 10-model year came out really early

because they were facelifting it and the recession was in full swing.

That blue-strap one was so cool.

Yeah, 06 to 09, you'll be fine.

That's what we all said.

06 to 09s are the reliable ones.

I'm serious.

That's a known saying.

Dude, I had an 06.

I had an 06 for seven years, and it was one of the great cars that I've ever had.

I had a ton of CarMax warranty issues like the steering column brake,

but it never broke that car mechanically.

Do you know the CarMax stuff still going on?

My friend Scott bought a CLS63.

Or is it CL63 now?

CLS is correct.

CL63.

Whoever traded in the CarMax, it needed a new trans,

and so he got it, and then within one week,

they replaced the entire trans.

Mercedes quoted them 100 grand to do it.

What?

They found someone to rebuild it because it was a new trans,

but he basically got a $20,000 repair done within a week of getting this car.

The great story about that whole CarMax thing that I did,

people did way worse.

I bought a $30,000 car and got like $30,000 over six years in repairs.

When I bought my range, there were E60 M5s at CarMax available.

Can you imagine?

There are absolutely people who got motors replaced for $50,000 in one service with a CarMax.

Imagine being the guy that bought that E60 M3,

and they're like, three grand for the warranty,

like, I don't know if it's worth it.

And you decline it over three grand,

and then are stuck holding a $20,000 back.

I guarantee you that happened.

Mine was like a death of a thousand cuts.

There were a bunch of little $2,000 things here and there,

but there are absolutely motors that CarMax has put in cars and all that stuff,

and to this day, they won't sell.

You know what was funny also?

All I wanted when I bought my range was a G-Wagon.

CarMax wouldn't sell the men, still won't sell.

What a mistake.

That's the only reliable car.

I'm so glad they don't sell them because it would never have been a story.

That launched my career.

And if they had sold that car,

G-Wagons are incredibly dependable and incredibly robust,

and instead, they sold me this and paid out $38,000 in claims over six years.

I love your range, River.

That thing is still out there kicking it as far as you can?

Yeah, still on the road.

But I mean, it's on Nantucket now, and it's eight miles away.

The whole island is eight miles wide, so, you know, 10 miles.

So, like, it's probably only getting a thousand miles a day.

It's not really being used.

You know, I put 2,000 miles on my P30, and it's getting it.

Has it left me stranded once?

You know what we didn't talk about in the news segment that we should?

The good is Moda.

Can we talk about Moda?

Are we allowed to talk about Moda?

Sean?

I had that in my talk cars, actually.

Pull up.

Can you pull up some Moda pictures?

Sadly, Kenan was sick and unable to join because he was there.

Kenan went there.

Kenan was there during the hurricane.

He had some great pictures of the cars in standing water.

Folks, Moda is some event.

I have no idea.

And it was in Miami, and there was incredible rainstorm and windstorm,

and did you see the video of the kids in the golf cart where the thing falls?

Who'd be shared it because you could see his gullwing in the background?

Yeah, I saw his gullwing back there.

There's like a singer that something almost falls on.

There are probably, look at that dude.

He looks like noodle in a rainstorm.

That hair.

There are probably open roof cars that were like damn it.

There was that like Koenigsegg Jesko or whatever it was that like the front bumper was like in water.

Yeah, but you gotta assume there are cars being exhibited that have no top at all.

Whenever these stories come up, and I've mentioned it to my wife,

and I'm like the poor cars, and she's like, I'm sure people died.

There were far worse harm, and I'm like, no, those are priceless.

Wow.

People didn't die.

It was honestly, it was a fairly typical Florida midday rainstorm,

except with a lot more wind, because it was over pretty quick.

But like, did you not see these before?

No, I didn't.

I mean, the stanchions that are falling down.

Everything was falling over like just ridiculous.

A 250 LM.

That's a $20 million car.

Who's gullwing is sitting right there with those giant things behind it.

Looks like a hell of an event.

The cars, I wish I had gone despite the rain,

like the cars there did look natural.

I have a feeling that the Moda people are kind of embarrassed that all this happened.

Personally, I think that makes this the coolest event.

Like if it had gone out without rain, you would have seen some pictures

and then forgotten about it next week.

We will never forget about this.

Filippo, do you wish your car had been there?

No.

Do you wish you had been there?

No.

Okay, good.

Good.

Can I just, I want to go back to Range Rover for a second.

Yeah.

Your experience with your steering column.

Yeah.

Make me truly scared to use my power steering column.

Power steering column.

Yeah.

Because like, I wouldn't have thought of how often they broke

except for your Range Rover where it broke often.

Yeah, pretty often.

Speaking of circling back to Range Rover, see if I may.

Please.

The P38 community, I'd like to apologize to everyone.

A bad faith actor listed a car on another auction site

in which they faked service records.

Very clearly using what I assume is MS Paint

based on their level of sophistication

to fake both the dates and the amount paid.

So like a head job, a head gasket job was done like 15 years ago

and they basically just updated dates and numbers.

It was easily discovered.

Do not fake receipts, you idiot.

Is this the same auction site where they had the cobblestone floor mats

on the AI Cadillac?

Perhaps.

Okay.

Perhaps.

Unfortunately.

I watched that auction.

Wow.

Pretty well.

And of course it's a P38 person.

Of course.

They're bringing our esteemed name and reputation into the mud

with these kind of tactics.

The irony is like, don't fake the receipts.

The car is worth four grand if it had a head gasket done 15 years ago.

Yeah.

If it had the head gasket done yesterday, it's worth 4,200.

That guy's losing money either way.

You're not doing well.

Four grand is so generous.

His was free.

Type in P38 and let's kind of get a market report here.

There were five grand, give or take.

Yeah.

Go to highest price.

Sure.

Five grand.

Go to highest price.

26 plus.

Go to highest price.

That's an outlet.

I still have the highest sold P38.

That's worth 3,000.

No.

Oh no, someone beat me.

Wow.

With an SE.

Yeah.

How do you feel about that?

In low miles.

Low miles.

Look at that exterior.

Just want to live in it.

I'm telling you, dude, if you drive an L322, you will never set foot in a P38 ever again.

I don't know.

No.

Some of us like vintage cars, Doug.

We appreciate it.

You hate the classic.

You know, it's like your Qantas, like we get in it.

We're just like, you think the range classic is a horrible car?

It's the same car, just rustier.

Well, I digress.

The P38 community apologizes.

Most of us don't fudge the receipts.

We just accept the loss.

If there's a community where I expect the fudging of receipts, it is.

It's the Rover Roulette community on Instagram.

That's so true.

I mean, you should just assume that's going on.

Sorry, are you going to trade it for L322?

We're in discussions.

How much money?

No one can decide what our cars are worth.

And then we're all like, oh, it's worth 20 grand to me, but I'll take five for it.

Actual direct quote from the conversation.

I'm going to be honest.

You got the car for free.

God.

The last two is over.

26.

Yeah, it's not a free car.

What?

It's worth it.

I love that.

Well, last week on this podcast, he was like, I'm done with cars.

I'm not putting money into BS cars anymore.

I'm so sick of just dropping money in stupid cars.

Doesn't get it back.

He's 11 into a 97 Range Rover that was given to him for free that he put his hand through

the A pillar trim after it came off while he was driving.

How did you get to $11,000?

The death of a thousand.

We were sitting over there 10 minutes ago and he said he wants to wrap it yellow.

The whole car.

You know what that's going to cost?

And then he goes, I think I'll just have the wrapped on while I do the interior.

What do the interior mean?

It'll be like a Kongleton when I'm done or a singer.

The one that you have sold on the site.

I got to just find it out.

This one, right?

Yeah, that's it.

Seven grand.

So it's got to be worth, I don't know, 40% more now.

This is yours?

It was seven grand.

Three years.

This is yours, right?

You had L322 wheels on?

Yeah, this is yours.

Yeah.

I think that's mine.

That's yours.

Pretty sure.

It was worth it.

It looked a lot nicer than.

Yeah.

It doesn't have all the holes in it.

But now you're into an 11.

No, someone paid seven grand for it.

I don't know that it was worth it.

Was that like a COVID thing or something?

Okay.

Filippo.

It was, actually.

That was during the COVID market peak.

Even P38s went up.

Filippo, tell us about the pickup truck.

Yeah.

My pickup truck, the 1973 F-250 that my wife and I inherited is

driving.

It's running.

It's running really nicely.

Shout out to David.

I kind of got a motive who's done a really nice job with it.

Prescott is on it.

That's right.

Incorrect on that last part on commerce drive, right off Willow

Springs.

I don't know.

17 would be off.

No.

Far west of that.

It doesn't really matter.

It is ready to come home to me.

So now I'm working on getting it transported to here.

Can't wait.

And then I will need to do a bunch of things here.

So he runs, drives well.

The tires are pre-date code.

So we think they're like late 90s or 2000s.

Why don't you just put tires on?

Because first I need to buy wheels.

Because the wheels are 16 and a half inch.

Yeah.

And a half.

Yeah, because they had stuff like that.

Wow.

Can't you find wheels?

No.

Sorry.

Or can you find tires?

I cannot find.

A lot of vehicles.

You can find tires.

But they're all like highway trailer tires.

And I would like something a little.

You're going to do like some steelys?

No.

I will buy wheels.

You can't buy bad tires for this car.

He's going to be pitching around corners.

He's going to be down shifting.

You can't have enough 250 on like the highway trailer

tires.

They just look so bad.

They're like way too.

Flippo.

You need like all terrain tires.

The vehicle in general doesn't look great.

You need all terrain tires.

You're going to put super swampers on it.

Maybe.

You need all terrain tires.

Oh my God.

No, we're not going to put super swampers.

Yes you are.

First of all, basically when it comes home, my wife and I will

do a bunch of cosmetic things.

The interior is in pretty rough shape.

We'll clean it up.

My wife is a very fastidious, meticulous person.

You are too.

No.

Well, I guess I've seen your desk.

You're detail oriented.

You're just not clean.

Yes.

I'm not neat.

That's such.

Every way of saying that is so.

But it's actually not disagreeing.

I'm never seeing like his desk.

My desk is a little messy.

My desk at home is clean for the record where I actually work

most of the time.

This is who he actually works at home.

This desk.

God knows how that stuff got there.

Yeah.

But we'll do a bunch of like interior cleanup.

The seat covers like an old like rug basically as they all are.

So we'll do a bunch of that and I'll get new wheels and new tires.

I can't wait for this.

I'm excited.

Hopefully the next week.

What is interior clean?

I mean, you're not going to reupholster anything.

No, but we'll do like a better seat cover.

There's a bunch of like, you can't read the gauges because that

plastic is too.

I don't know how we'll clean that up.

But I think that you're overestimating what you need to do.

Like, you don't need to read the gauges.

Like, you know, it won't get carried away with speed or anything.

Like, I guarantee you'll be able to hear the motor when you're trying to,

when it's time to shift.

Need is not what I'm going for.

Also, it's automatic.

It's an auto.

You're such a tip guy.

The two of you are such tip guys.

It'll be the second automatic car I've ever owned.

God, all you guys in your automatics, you know, he only has automatic.

You have more automatics than I do.

I got two.

I have one.

You have this truck.

You have like six cars right now.

You have three.

Felipe has become a real car guy.

We gave him so much crap for so long.

You have a sequoia.

I don't have a station wagon.

The station wagon, oh, this.

I forgot about this.

Yeah.

That's a tennis ball.

You're looking for transport.

You're looking for a fourth automatic.

I am.

So I will have fewer.

But I'm really excited for it to be here.

My wife is incredibly excited for it to be here.

It'll be very like, are we doing an F 250 welcome party?

Like we did this SLR party.

Yeah, we should.

We should.

I'll get in the bed.

We should make it like the dress coach should be like 1970s Americana.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's do it.

I mean, yeah.

We won't further define it and let everyone interpret how they may.

And I can imagine.

Sure.

That your interpretation may not be politically correct.

I would, I would assume.

That's why I wanted to be at his house.

I don't, I don't want my neighbors.

Can I invite some of my neighbors?

Yeah, of course.

Cool.

They would, they probably have it in their closet ready to go.

My gentlemen excited about this.

My wife is a very like nostalgic sentimental person and this truck will be really meaningful.

Do you agree though that after about four drives in it, she's going to be less nostalgic and

sentimental?

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like she's going to be like, well, I want to carry on his memory.

And I think by doing that, we will plant a tree.

There is a real chance that.

Yep.

She will look so cool in it.

She will look so cool at it.

A dog can have her head out the window.

This thing is carburetor.

I mean, he doesn't know what to do.

They're not going to know what to do.

We're at sea level with no elevation change and no temperature.

Like guys, the fact that you think that that is going to, is going to, is going to solve

your problem.

It will solve.

We have no expectation that it goes far.

I have many expectations that in the first hundred miles of driving it, some things,

and I do mean plural, will break.

If it breaks, you take it to Mossy Ford and Pacific Beach.

And you say to, that's where I take my Sequoia and into the Toyota one.

And I, you say to him, hey, I got a Ford.

Can you fix it?

Hey, I bought this here.

What do you mean you can't fix it?

It's not under warranty anymore.

I do get it.

I have to find out more about where that, I wonder, I have not looked through any of

like the paperwork with the glove box.

And I wonder if there's anything about the history of it.

Cause I wonder where it came from.

I would, regardless, I would insist that they fix it for you.

Can you please do a video for Carson Bids?

We want to know the history.

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I want to talk about my 993.

Yeah.

I have this reddish 993.

Yeah, yeah, Arena Red there.

You want to pull it up?

It's on my Instagram somewhere.

You're good.

Okay.

And I got an Arena Red 993 twin turbo.

And it's, there's a few there.

That's the color.

Yeah, it might as well.

Mine's like, it's a coupe.

And I've been driving it everywhere with my children.

That's so nice.

Everywhere.

They like it?

Yeah.

They're going to, they're going to be able to fit pretty soon.

That's not true.

They got time.

I think I got a year, year and a half.

They're still in regular car seats and longers.

We've gotten the four of us in the car.

My two kids in the back, my wife in the front.

My, like I said, getting a little tight.

My niece and nephew were visiting in a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah.

And we, my nephew's nine.

He fit just fine in the back seat.

Your car, your 997 is quite a bit big.

Is it bigger in the back seat?

I haven't started to say it.

Yeah.

The problem is specifically the leg room.

But I do think I can transition into a booster regardless.

I am driving my kids.

A new booster.

And a 997 fits perfectly.

I'm driving my kids.

No perfect fit in the bucket.

It's great.

Everywhere in this car.

Yeah.

I love that.

Like we go to the, we go to the run errands.

I take, pick them up, take them to school.

We went to the, we did all sorts of stuff.

Mommy was gone last weekend.

We went all around in it doing all sorts of kids stuff.

And that's the thing.

I love it.

I love it too.

I'm really happy to not be precious about this car.

And it's been a wonderful family vehicle.

Does it diminish the specialness of it?

No.

Good.

It's fun to be able to actually use a special car for this purpose.

And although I want other sports cars, two seat sports cars,

I really think that this garage spot has to be reserved for a four seat car.

And so my kids are no longer interested.

Yeah.

Which I think that will happen.

Your kids like enjoy it.

Like they get a thrill out of it.

Yeah.

They love it.

They call it fast car.

They're always begging me to go fast.

My little one who doesn't talk much cause he's only two.

He screams more daddy, more, more when I go fast.

Isn't it crazy how few cars there are when you have that breed of like sports cars,

two door sports cars with a usable backseat.

Yeah.

Totally.

I mean like you're buying a field to replace this with a similar use case is down to like

a handful of cars.

Especially if you want analog, safe enough, you know, the car seat tethers stick.

You're talking about cars like late nineties to early 2000s and then the manuals all went

away.

And I don't have much interest in that.

I know you're an automatic guy.

Every Mustang.

Every Camaro.

But I want...

Every Challenger.

I do think that 612 is a very likely possibility.

Can you pull up a 612 to replace this car with?

They're better if you don't look at them.

It's grown on me a little bit.

The 612 has.

Can you pull up a different Ferrari and just talk about the 612?

Yeah.

Here.

I'll give you another option.

Like a 550 is a beautiful car.

Yeah.

599 Networks.

Oh God.

Yeah.

599 is beautiful.

That's cool.

Two seats though.

Which goes to your point.

Hey, I'm not getting the 612 because it's beautiful.

It's just the only damn car that actually fits my purpose.

There's an FF.

Here's a different Ford Focus.

FF Ford Focus.

FFs are cool, but they have this transmission issue that.

And auto on land.

And I don't do autos.

You haven't gotten a purse.

I was like $700,000.

Thanks so too.

Anyway, loving the 993 Charbo.

Truly driving on a ton with the kids.

I've decided I'm just going to let this car be used by children.

And so as a result, like they hand print it.

They are.

My older son is always like pulling on the seat belt retractor.

Like, look, Daddy, look at this.

They were trying to peel off the sticker on the windshield.

On the side window that says Porsche drive block system.

And I love that sticker because it's the.

Incredibly idiotic.

A mobilizer.

And it just feels right to have that.

And there is a reminder of how poorly engineered that was every time you get in the car.

I was like, don't touch that.

But other than that, I don't know.

They plug it into the, to the C tech.

That's what's hard.

I love getting my kids excited about cars.

I want them to be passionate about it.

But when you get to a car, the price point of yours and where the,

the next buyer is so.

Detail oriented, like that's a tough car to be like.

I just decided, I know I'm going to lose because of how I'm using it.

The kids will kick the seat in front.

I cut the leather to get the car seat tether.

I'm going to lose 20 grand.

Pride.

But if I get to three years out of driving to my kids around on it.

To me, that's my situation.

That's where, and I'm sure everybody has a number like that.

You know, like it's worth doing for a certain car is worth doing a certain thing.

And I got no problem with it.

And also that weeds out a lot of people.

Like the fact that I cut the leather means that like,

I don't have to talk to some of these people who might be buying a 993.

You know what I'm saying?

Also, you bought well.

Yeah, I bought it.

All right.

Okay.

We need to move on to the market report, which is brought to you by Ryan Lopez.

Folks, I want to tell you something about Ryan Lopez.

A couple of weeks ago, Ryan Lopez, he did some more content.

I don't know.

His air conditioning was broken.

And it's fixed now, but this weekend, this past weekend,

he got me some wheels for my G wagon.

Are you aware of this?

Yes.

I'm switching out my wheels.

And the proper ones.

Move a little bit so people can see the wheels.

The current wheels, I hate the current wheels.

But that's not the wheels that came on the car, right?

So this will be a third set of OE wheels.

Because the first set of OE wheels was the grand edition wheels,

which weren't OE to the car and I didn't like.

Instantly got rid of those for these.

These have been on the car for seven years.

Now we're switching to the OE wheel on the car.

Oh, wow.

I don't remember what the G5, 150.

Those are not the G5 wheels are my favorite.

Those are nice looking, but I don't think no, it wasn't these.

Those aren't right.

I don't think they fit on the 500.

Anyway, the point is, Ryan Lopez, he went and got me the,

this is almost a talk car segment.

And imagine the following transaction.

A fellow who comes into the office an hour late

because his air conditioning broke in February,

trying to purchase wheels from a fellow on Facebook marketplace

who is pretty and it sounded like pretty incompetent.

So you have the, it's like these two forces trying to make this thing happen.

You know what I mean?

And needless to say, is a simple act of purchasing these wheels.

They visited several different shops and it took many hours,

but we got the wheels.

They're here.

Why are they gone?

Why so many shops are you checking for Ben's and such?

No, no, because it's,

because it's a crazy Facebook marketplace guy and Ryan Lopez.

What do you think is going to happen?

That's not going to be a smooth transaction.

Why would you go to a shop?

Because the, Ryan insisted,

Ryan can't fit him in his car with the tires on.

That's problem number one.

He can, but he has golf clubs in there and like a surf board.

No, this crap.

Okay.

So he got his tires.

He has the Tesla roof rails.

Right.

Put your golf clubs on the roof rails.

Didn't do it.

So he, then he goes, he goes, all right.

He goes, you'll take the tires off, right?

He shows up and now Ryan Lopez is out of the blame.

Guess what?

Facebook marketplace seller.

Hey, y'all take the tires off.

You show up.

Guess what's not what's still on the wheel.

Oh boy.

And then the guy tells Ryan Lopez.

He's like, I'm going to call a mobile tire guy.

He's going to come and take them off the wheels.

And Ryan's like, it's like a Saturday at Irvine.

The guy's not going to show up for four hours.

Anyway, they went to six different shops and eventually Ryan got the wheels.

But it went badly.

Let's move on.

So that's the market.

That's who's bringing us.

I forgot where we're going with that.

Can we start out with the one that is most interesting?

The Z 32.

Oh yeah.

Folks, I don't know if you saw it.

We sold that the 800 mile 2004 WRX STI for $107,000.

Record as far as we can tell.

Record price for an O4 STI, record price for a blob.

I think for probably any O2 to O8, whatever the generation is called.

Tough, tough to see it go because it's going to Europe.

It is going to Croatia.

Wow.

Yeah.

And that's a little sad because it is sad.

I really said it for the buyer and I'm excited that somebody found it internationally.

They're going to be putting in a bunch of extra money to get it to Croatia.

Import it, title it, whatever.

That's a real effort for an incredibly special car.

They must be truly enthusiastic and truly excited.

I mean, their search was global.

Their search for a car this nice was global.

I did see it posted on Instagram and people were like,

this is ruining the value of these cars.

These cars are going up and everything.

It's like, no, look, you can still get a pretty rough STI for like six.

This one sold for 107 because it has 800 miles.

Trust me, this has no bearing on the O4 STI market.

I promise.

I mean, here's one literally last month, which is an O6 STI.

But mods, sure, but 8600 bucks.

They are still very available to you.

The museum car deserves a museum result

and goes to somebody who appreciates it to go to a museum.

That's this car.

It's an exciting option.

It's still sitting here waiting to get picked up.

I was very lucky that I was able to drive it.

It was a car that I lost it after when I was a kid.

It's so super cool to see one just like so clean

and so perfectly preserved and so wonderful.

It's an incredible car.

111,000 views, something that obviously got a ton of attention.

Then the next week, that will be ended

by the time people are washing this.

We have a 6900 mile, 300 DX, Z32.

Also an amazing car.

God, what an incredible thing.

I drove this car and I did not have high expectations

because everybody talks about the Mark IV

and I was stunned when I drove it.

How nice it was.

Have you driven it?

No, I moved around the office

because that happens sometimes.

It is so good to drive.

It kind of reframed in my mind the Mark IV for me.

I've always wanted a Mark IV and I still do.

I think a lot of that is because of how it looks

and how cool it is and the market perception

and the general perception.

But I think from a pure driving perspective,

this might be better.

I believe that.

I loved how this car drove.

You had an R32 GTR, which was not offered here.

I think people have lusted over it as the Skyline GTR.

Was this better?

There are pros and cons to each.

This is a purpose-built sports car

and I think something that a lot of enthusiasts

do not realize about the Skyline GTR

is that they were not purpose-built sports cars.

They were commuter cars in Japan

that then they made a coupe

and then they made a high-performance coupe.

This car certainly drives better than an R32

in some ways.

The steering is tighter.

It is clearly faster.

However, the R32 is a lighter car.

They added a lot of technology into this car

that kind of adds to the...

This was the King of Nissan's lineup.

It wasn't the R32, but the result was

it was a little heavier

and feels a little heavier,

but it is so much fun to drive.

It's a beautiful car.

Yeah, it still looks good.

After all these years, it still looks good.

It's like the blob I do though,

where you're so used to seeing beat-up ones

that it's striking how not beat-up it is to see one.

By the time this podcast goes live,

the auction will have already closed.

It's sitting at $85,000,

which again, I'm sure when we post this video,

oh my God, you're ruining the values.

Let me tell you, Z32s are cheap.

Again, this car deserves to sell for a lot of money

to someone who's really going to appreciate it.

The control layout is so cool in these cars.

Have you been in it to pre-crest it

like the climate control?

Wild.

It's all around the steering wheel.

There's all these...

It's like cockpits.

They're all thinking of cockpits.

And so like, those are the climate controls.

All of the climate controls are there

and the...

It looks like a walkie-talkie.

Wind shield wash wipers.

Yeah, it does.

Wild.

And those are all fixed.

The passenger has no access to this stuff.

Honestly, it's kind of rude to the passenger

to...

It's up to the driver.

I love this car.

I really, really liked it.

It's so cool.

Much more than I expected to.

Looks good in black, too.

Yeah.

I don't say that about a lot of cars,

but that looks good.

We have a bunch of other low-mile cars, by the way.

There's a JDM 80 Series Land Cruiser.

It has really low miles.

There's a TL that has really low miles.

We have an 05 TL coming up with 12,000 miles.

We'll get to that in a later podcast.

By the time you strove it today...

By the time you watch this,

there'll be a Pathfinder,

a first-gen Pathfinder live.

With 800 miles.

Drove that super clean.

It's a low-mile couple of months here at the office.

Yeah, it is.

Crazy.

Anyway, those are some good market reports.

I want to talk about Resonies.

We got to talk about Resonies.

I'm going to just stop it, everybody.

All right.

Yesterday, when we were filming this,

we sold a Resonies tank.

That's a thing.

For $175,000.

Yeah.

Which feels like a lot of money for Wrangler.

Filippo!

It's the military edition.

Yeah, this one can release tear gas,

among other things.

Run flat tires, bulletproof glass,

explosive protection, EMP protection,

thermal night vision system.

That's kind of cool.

Wow.

Blinding glass, shocking doors.

It's obviously ridiculous.

That's so cool.

It's obviously ridiculous,

but I would also argue...

Yes, it is a Jeep Wrangler underneath,

and in the interior.

That's so cool.

But I would also argue that,

for this price point,

you're looking at G-Wagons.

Go to the rear image of this car.

You get up behind that,

you're thinking,

what the hell is this thing?

I know.

It doesn't say.

Also, the doors shock you.

The doors apparently can shock you.

If you're an actual celebrity

or noteworthy person,

some of those features are actually pretty valuable.

You probably wouldn't want to be driving around

in the car that everybody's looking at.

Nonetheless, it's pretty cool.

I want to bring it up,

because we sold a couple of Rizvani,

some other tanks,

a Hercules 6x6,

and now,

we currently have Beast Alpha.

I thought these were newer,

but the 2018.

It's based on the Lotus Elise.

It's cool.

Right?

It's a Lotus Elise VIN,

but it has a Honda 4-cylinder.

And it's got these bizarre doors.

Go back to the image of the doors.

They roll out like a minivan.

It's very bizarre.

It also looks really good.

I'm sure it must be bizarre,

and it's a one of four or something.

It's like a prototype car

that somehow is titled.

If Honda came out with an S2000

that looked like this tomorrow,

people would lose their minds.

And it looks like something

that Honda would come out with.

It does.

The doors are so insane.

Instead, we got the Prelude.

You were talking about,

with the Caterpillar story,

how hard it is to come up

with a unique body style and all that,

but these guys are doing it.

They do it because

they can just base it off

an existing car.

I bet you Ford wouldn't actually

let Caterpillar, like,

re-badge a truck, you know?

Perhaps.

They made three of these.

It has a 500 horsepower

Honda performance.

That's pretty cool.

They're going nuts.

The side window door.

Also, somehow this was crashed.

It has a salvaged title.

Well, I assume it was a crashed Lotus Elise

that Resvani then got

and decided to mess with.

Interesting.

That's a very good point.

That was the only way this project

was ever going to start,

if we're being honest.

It does look so great.

Also, how does this make

any sense with this?

How is it the same?

The Resvani model line,

none of us really understand.

They've got one based on the 911.

They're just extreme cars.

It doesn't...

What is that?

Is that an Oris?

Yeah, I think so.

I think that's an Oris.

This was a Dodge Ram, right?

I can't remember.

Or an Escalade?

But they all look like AI cars,

except I've seen all of these in person.

All of them except that one.

They're constantly around.

No, I've seen that one in person as well.

You've seen that one?

Yes.

They do look like AI cars.

Man, you're a pedicat.

I think that was the Beast of Silver Shell.

Dude, 585.

Oh my God.

Okay, folks, buy it on cars and mince.

I don't know what the reserve is,

but I guarantee it ain't 585.

This is a bargain.

I actually think that one's no reserve.

All right, I want to talk about

one other market report situation,

which is the Black Series.

We sold last week a crazy C63 Black Series.

This car sold for $68,000.

Black Series, I mean, there's 500 of these in the world,

there's some crazy number.

Very cheap.

132,000 miles.

I love that.

Yeah.

Someone was like,

I'm just going to daily my Black Series.

800 for the globe of these cars.

Wow.

I didn't realize they were that rare.

Wow, miles.

Yeah.

It's a good-looking car.

Good-looking car.

It's also a low-wing, which is less desirable.

So you have high-mileage, low-wing.

I honestly think the number was still pretty strong

considering the mileage.

These are very rare cars.

A regular C63 with 130,000 miles is a $12,000 car.

Yeah, but a Black Series with no miles

is probably a 200 car.

Wow.

We had no idea what number to put on it.

No, it was no reserve.

We had to be because there was no cop in the whole world.

What's surprising is despite that mileage,

it looks to be a pretty nice car.

Plus, it's not beat up.

All these years later, it still looks cool.

Don't you think?

That rear, the rear flare out,

and the C63 Black Series was the least cool of them,

but it's still cool as hell.

Yeah.

It was pretty subtle as far as Black Series go,

but it looks good.

Yeah.

I'm so into that car.

Yep.

And I'm glad it sold.

And I'm glad it sold what I consider

to be pretty well considering the miles, honestly.

Well photographed, well presented car from a good dealer.

Shout out to Nexus Auto Brokers.

Wait, I want to talk about one more.

What?

All right.

We have a bunch of celebrity cars live.

Oh, yeah.

You've got to get into this.

Nick did this.

I lost my mind.

I'm not really a sports person.

I know who Reggie is, sort of.

Reggie Jackson.

I had to double check what sport he was famous from,

but I knew he was a sports player.

It says owned by baseball hall of fame.

Yeah, that's how hard I had to check.

Just reading the subtitle.

It's a lot for you.

Okay, so Range Rover sports have never really been

like a sought after car that someone would seek to preserve.

However, the backstory, so you have a great backstory from him.

And he specifically sought this car out,

took time and energy.

There was a quote.

You find one, yes.

In the listing from Reggie Jackson.

This lady has been put to bed every night with milk and cookies.

This is a direct quote from the seller,

and I love that you included that.

It's only got 10,000 miles now.

He bought it with 3,000 miles.

I mean, to say it is the most pristine Range Rover sport

is just such a massive on your statement.

Does the market care about that?

We'll find out.

It's already 15,000, which is good for a Range Rover sport.

Is it a blue interior?

I was looking at the pictures and I am astonished.

It's black.

I am astonished by how nice it looks.

The back seats are like, I mean,

back seats are often pretty nice in cars.

This car's never been used by anybody.

And Reggie, it goes in his statement.

He goes into how much he likes low mileage cars.

Clearly he like bought it and wanted to keep it like.

Well, you can see the background of some of the other photos.

You can see other cars that are not necessarily collector cars,

traditionally.

I disagree.

But you can tell.

They're also really low mileage cars.

Like this four-runner.

There's a four-runner back there that's got the same.

Anybody, if you buy this Range Rover,

ask Reggie about his four-runner.

You might be able to get a two-fer.

So you Google Reggie Jackson's car collections.

You see Meekum results.

But real cars.

Yes.

But he's one of us.

He's also like, he's like the kind of guy that would own

an SLR and a P38 or a G-Wagon cab and a Kuntosh.

He has a crappy car and a good car.

Never forget.

They cancel each other out.

That after Gas Monkey Garage put that F-40 back together,

they sold it to Reggie Jackson.

And he had it for a little while,

and then he sold it to a Ponzi Schamer.

And then I tried to buy it.

And unfortunately, the seller was a Ponzi Schamer.

I want to talk about one other celebrity car.

I can't wait to see how that ends.

How do you put a number on a...

It's not even a full-size Range Rover.

How do you put a number on a super low-mile Range Rover Sport?

That was Reggie Jackson.

Oh, it's bizarre.

In period, I thought the sports were really cool,

and I kind of wanted one.

They were cool.

Now I want nothing to do with it.

But Reggie didn't buy it because it's a sport or a full...

He bought it because it was a low-mile car.

So it was just what was available.

Oh, this looks pretty cherry.

Add it to your list of low-mile survivor cars

you've got for sale.

But that thing is just, I love every word of that option.

So good.

Shout out to Aerosmith drummer, Joey Kramer,

who was selling an LC500 and an RS3 with us.

Aerosmith drummer, Joey Kramer is selling these cars with us.

This LC is legit.

It's a 24, so this is the one you want.

It's the updated infotainment.

It's owned by Aerosmith.

Look at those drumsticks in the listing.

He's signed them, folks.

Killer.

He's off cars.

He was liquidated.

Or maybe he's consolidating up.

We don't know.

This guy is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Nick, you ever a Hall of Fame member?

No, I'm from Cleveland-ish.

You want to hear an interesting story

about Hall of Fames?

Oh, wait, by the way, these match the color.

Oh, yeah, that's even cooler.

But not the LCs.

No, but they match the RS3 color.

Type into your search bar, Nevada Hall of Fame license plate.

I'm about to change your entire life today, Felipe.

I don't like that.

I will participate.

Nevada Hall of Fame.

Sean, you have to edit out Felipe's slowness.

Hall of, okay, that's fine.

Hall of Fame license plate.

All right, go to images.

Nevada has a license plate that says on the side of it,

Hall of Fame.

I think I sold one of those for you.

You're thinking, what does this mean?

Here's the answer.

If you were a member of a Hall of Fame,

I swear to God, this is true.

Any Hall of Fame?

Any Hall of Fame.

As long as you can prove it.

When you register your car,

you can get the Hall of Fame license plate.

I swear to God.

How many are out?

You've got to assume three.

It's ridiculous on its face.

What happens if they get a thousand?

They go to letters.

Not only do you have to be in Hall of Fame,

but then you have to want to display it on your plate.

And it's generic.

It's not like it says baseball Hall of Fame.

You're just a Hall of Famer of something.

Can we start our own Hall of Fame

than people from Nevada can reach out?

We should look up the rules.

We should look up the license plate rules

and see what actually is required.

Technically, Felipe and I are number two

and number three on the most followed people on cars and vans.

That's a Hall of Fame.

It's the Hall of Fame.

Show up.

This is an actual thing.

Obviously, no other state has it,

although Massachusetts has a license plate for Olympians.

And so does Ron.

Okay, we're going to say,

I am annoyed that Nick is above me here.

Oh, so here are three and four.

It's not even close anymore.

I know.

Nick, you might get out Hoovey here.

I'm catching up.

We don't want to, folks, go follow Hoovey.

Go follow Hoovey.

Hoovey's real.

Nick is, follow me.

Nick's an automatic guy.

I'm selling real cars on the side.

We can't have automatic transmission, Nick, be second.

I agree.

Hoovey has sold real cars.

Click on his profile.

Hoovey says a lot.

By the way, he posted a video today in which he wants to sell a couple cars.

I think we should have a word with him.

Okay.

All right.

What's he trying to sell?

The Mybox 62.

Oh, you want to have a word with him?

I want to have a word with him.

He's already floated it to me

and I'm just never in a position at the moment he floats.

Hoovey sold a ton of stuff.

Where have you been on these cars?

Okay.

I've been on a couple of them.

We got to move on to questions.

Questions, of course, are brought to you

by Nick's collection of automatic transmission cars.

Nick, he only likes automatics.

Okay.

Panted.

First question from Century Bug.

Oh, by the way, you can ask us questions.

Carsandbits.com.

Click on community.

There will be a post in there that says questions.

Do it because this week's questions were not good.

It goes up and down.

That's so sad.

There's great ones and there's bad ones.

There were like 400 of them.

We need good questions, folks.

We thrive on them.

From Century Bug, this is one for you.

Hey, Doug, in 2018, you awarded the Hummer H2,

the dubious honor of being the most embarrassing vehicle

you can drive.

Has the title changed hands since then?

Yes.

To what?

Cyber.

That's okay.

I mean, it is such an emblematic.

It is the H2 in every way.

It's like ostentatious in your face,

hard to miss, bought by a particular buyer segment.

And I would argue the H2 is getting a little connoisseur-y.

I'm into the H2 so far.

Go to H2.

When I see one now, the ones that did not get exported to Russia

did not get horribly modified.

Yeah, the super clean OE ones.

The ones that are left.

Yeah.

And none of these are.

The SUT.

No, this one's pretty nice.

It's pretty nice.

It's got some wheels, but it's pretty nice.

Do you see them and you're like, you know,

it's not as embarrassing as it used to be.

And they're not as big and gaudy as they used to be

because all other cars have gotten so big.

They don't look that big anymore.

You see an H2?

Is that an H3?

We don't know.

Right.

It's definitely not the H2 anymore.

It's probably the Cybertruck.

I agree with you.

I can't think of anything more embarrassing than the Cybertruck.

Can you?

There are.

And I think about this a lot when I see them in the road,

but the Cybertruck's the lowest hanging fruit,

I think of all these cars.

Wait, QX50.

No.

QX50.

It's too nondescript to be that.

Yeah, but it's too nondescript.

Because otherwise my answer would be the BZ4X.

Oh, yeah.

Because it's like, why did you make that decision?

BZ4X.

Have you Googled?

The mainstream doesn't get these though.

Like these are just for us.

Just your dirty research?

Yeah, I think the Cybertruck.

Have you Googled?

That is what I want to ask people who have BZ4Xs.

What happened?

Was the lease deal, was your lease was ending

and in your RAF4 the deal was so good.

You got a hope.

Okay.

It's either BZ4X or a Cybertruck.

Oh, by the way, when we post this,

people are going to freak in the comments.

The Cybertruck's not embarrassing.

What are you talking?

You're a bunch of liberals.

Yeah.

It's tough to look at.

I'm trying to think of other things that are.

And it's also because you know the person driving loves it.

Yeah, this is cool.

Right, guys?

Right?

That's how all Cybertruck owners are mentally.

And it's like, no.

I think they're past the stages of grief.

They're more into the bargaining stage where they're like,

okay, well, it's functional.

It has all these advantages.

Like they're justifying it rather than trying to go

on face value if it looks cool.

I think they still think it looks cool.

And I think that it only looks cool to other Cybertruck owners

or prospective Cybertruck owners.

And the rest of us are all like.

And I think they're all regretting losing 50 grand.

Tell you this, Reggie Jackson, he ain't driving no Cybertruck.

It's so cool.

New hero.

Next question from MVSJ.

Doug, this week, Harry took a colon and off road to do donuts

around his farm.

Maybe.

When do you think you'll hit this level of DGAF with car reviews?

Every time I think I don't care the most.

Like we do one of these podcasts and I stay stuff that I absolutely

shouldn't have said.

Harry does donuts in a colon and revise it with levante.

Donuts in a colon, it doesn't sound that extreme.

No, but he just doesn't.

We can go do that.

Can we?

Sure.

I'm busy.

I got stuff going on.

Harry doesn't.

He gets a colon and he does donuts in soft mud.

Well, if we had soft mud, we'd do too.

We don't have soft mud.

We don't have the time.

We're doing other stuff that we do care about.

Harry is a winner.

Where?

We could find a guy.

I mean, you just need water and dirt.

But it never rains and it's not dirty.

It rained a ton last month.

I just need water and dirt.

The point is, Sean's got a guy.

Producer Sean with the bad color G, we haven't brought him up yet.

He had a dirt guy, remember, when we did the adventure series?

I do remember.

And he's like, I got a guy that has like a sand area.

And he did.

That's true.

But think about what you're saying.

Yeah.

In order to do that, we have to drive out to the sand area,

get the dirt guy, get a watered down sand guy.

Harry just takes a colon and does donuts.

Was this a viewer car?

I haven't seen this episode yet, but I will.

Related note, but that Bentega at the fat ice race

that someone did an Overland build on, so cool.

I'm so here for it.

They're never going to build a LaMou or a Dominator.

It's a wild build.

It's an unbelievable build.

And it looks so good.

Like there is no reason.

That was not a good time.

It looks so good.

That should be an OE car.

It wasn't done yet.

It totally should be an OE car.

If they did this, it would be like G wagons.

Why don't you do this Bentley?

Yeah, four by four squared for Bentley, basically.

It's so cool.

Those wheels are so cool.

That roof rack and everything.

Everybody's always like, if I was rich, I would daily drive it at 40.

If I was, I would make a Bentley.

I can't afford to do that, unfortunately.

I would love to.

Can you not?

I mean, what's a Bentayga?

50 grand, 50 grand?

Yeah, but this is all custom stuff.

This is a new one.

There is no, this is a new one.

Yeah, but there is no suspension parts.

You have to imagine though, all the Cayenne Overland parts

have some cross compatibility.

Maybe.

Maybe you're right.

The bumper is custom fab though.

This was work.

Bentaygas are 60s.

Yeah.

God, I still want one so bad.

Consider it 60.

Can I also say?

That one's in Louisiana.

I also have a fan of the Rivian rat.

Cars in Louisiana are always cheaper.

Oh yeah, the rat stuff's pretty cool.

Like it looks cool.

Speaking of, the next question comes from Cars for Africa.

I want to address this question, even though it's not,

it doesn't include you guys, and I apologize.

Cars for Africa.

Thank you.

You sang the praises of the R1-T in one of your longest reviews of any car.

You gave it close to one of the highest Doug scores.

Then you said, same thing about the R1-S.

You have an EV charger at home and has three rows for your family.

It's capable off road SUV.

It looks great.

Why do you not have one?

Because we have two cars for family purposes.

I get this question all the time, which is why I'm answering this.

Yeah, I count the 993.

I do.

We have a few cars.

But the main cars, we have two cars.

And my big Sequoia, I only, I use to drive across the country.

And you can't drive across the country in an electric car.

Now there's a lot of people,

I drove across the country in an electric car.

It takes too long for me.

I like to do 1600 mile days.

And you ain't doing that in an electric car.

I'll tell you that.

So that's why I have not bought an electric car to replace that car.

And the other car is smaller.

And we don't want a full-size SUV for that, like around this city kind.

And EV is such an obvious fit for that other car.

It is.

But Mercedes doesn't offer an EV because it's wagon.

When there is an EV Mercedes-Benz station wagon, we'll make that move.

No, because they won't have three rows.

You're stuck with your 213 forever.

I'm not even joking.

I gotta get filled to do the alignment.

All right.

Here's a question from...

There are a couple of good ones.

I admit now.

Oh, okay.

Big skier guy.

Filippo, how's your 997.2 Targa 4S after a few months?

It's so good.

It's just such a confident car.

It was fun to have kids in the backseat and like show them a sports car.

They're used to a 2014 Corolla and a Subaru Outback.

So like it was, I think, very fun for them to be in something a little sportier.

But also like I've been daily driving it.

I drove to LA two days ago driving around in traffic here around San Diego.

Use it every day.

It's so good.

It's so competent.

It's just able to do all the things really well.

And it's fun and it sounds great.

And I really, really like it.

I came up on one today on the road.

I know.

I can't believe that.

The 997.2 Black Targa 4S.

And it wasn't me.

And I was on...

I was emerging on the freeway and it was up there.

I was like, that's Filippo.

I gotta catch up to him.

And it was an old guy.

Yep.

That's every other owner of 997.2.

But I legitimately love my car very much.

Any regrets?

None.

What about?

Really?

Anything you don't like about the car?

The wheel.

Color.

The wheels.

The wheels are a little bit...

We're refinished at some point and are a little bit dark.

They look like permanently brake.

They do look a little permanently brake.

You gotta paint the wheel.

At some point I think I will.

You know what?

I'm gonna give you right now.

I'm gonna give you some cash.

Nick, you got any money?

I honestly don't.

My daughter's about to lose her tooth and we needed tooth fairy money.

And I was like, I literally have two dollars and I put it in a safe so that I wouldn't spend it.

So that if her tooth falls out, we're prepared.

What are you giving?

I got friends.

Nick, listen to this.

Congratulations.

Whose tooth came out the daughter and they gave her 20 bucks.

What?

Do you believe this?

That's insane.

Do you believe this?

Inflation is real.

I was like, oh my God.

Is that the expectation?

I gotta give my kid 20 bucks?

I'm not doing 20 bucks.

What do you give?

Two dollars apparently.

For what?

Honestly, I think one's fine.

I think I got like a half dollar when I was a kid or something like that.

I don't remember.

Lira, we're worth nothing.

So who knows?

Right.

You probably got 10,000.

Probably 10,000.

It would have been like a thousand Lira.

50 cents-ish.

Okay.

Next question.

Get our Starbucks gift card.

Next question from some bloke.

Is there a market for a new Cadillac XLR based on the C8?

Yes.

You know, it's an interesting question because they tried the XLR and it kind of failed.

It kind of got this reputation of being like a softer boomer corvette.

Cadillac is going to F1 now and they're in IMSA and obviously they're trying to create

these performance credentials.

The only real performance cars they have are the Blackwing cars, which we have to assume

go away.

You wonder, don't you?

And I feel like Cadillac's image has improved a lot since the XLR where they were like-

Totally.

Super old men.

Like they've got some good stuff.

The problem is you'd have to- the E-rate probably should have been a Cadillac.

I think they did one.

It would have to be E-rated.

You have to distinguish it somehow from the C8 and that's hard to do because the C8 now

runs the total gamut.

But I actually think- I don't think they're going to do it because I think that they're

scared off and it's GM and they don't do it.

They don't make it in cars.

The only new Cadillacs you see are Escalade IQs.

Yeah.

Truly.

Right.

It's a weird brain to go to F1.

They should have gone to F1 or Chevrolet.

But I think it could work.

The E-rate is the obvious contender.

You restyle it.

You make it look Cadillac-y.

You make it a little bit more leathery and screeny because that's what Cadillac is now.

But the problem is the C8 is pretty nice inside.

It would be hard to really upgrade it to the point where it would be comfortable.

And one of the reasons that they were able to do what the XLR is, they ditched the regular

powertrain they put in the North Star because it was smoother.

And that solved the problem that the Corvette had, which at the time was the C6, and it

was rough.

The drawback though is you lose this powertrain.

At the time they had the North Star, they probably don't have a powertrain.

I think you accept that you're not getting more power, but you have a different...

I think you have a style-based selling point.

Everybody kind of accepts that the C8 is in the most beautiful car.

True.

It's not refined.

And I think it would be difficult to...

I guess my point is you would have to put in a different powertrain.

Would you?

The C8.

It's loud.

It's really loud.

I think you could quiet it down.

Maybe.

I agree.

The partial hybrid have like quiet modes.

I would make it a shooting break because that would distinguish it visually and give

a little bit more space for your golf clubs and everything.

That would be cool as hell.

I was an enthusiast, much like the original CTSV wagon, like all the magazine journalists

would freak out over it.

That would be cool as hell.

If they did a...

Yeah.

That's a differentiation.

That Zagato Aston Martin shooting break thing, it was so cool for an otherwise weird car.

Plus all shooting breaks have like a level of class at the regular car.

Pull up.

I'm sure that someone's done it.

C8 Corvette shooting break.

You got it.

Pull it up.

Pull it up fully.

I did that in one of the videos.

I was like, pull it up.

And someone commented like, Doug is a tyrant.

And I'm like...

Yes.

What does that have to do with anything?

I'm not...

I don't need any of this.

I don't care.

It may be AI, but it's simple.

It is AI, but you get the idea.

Let's do that.

Unfortunately, it would not be like black wingy.

We love the black wing because they're manuals offered, they're cool.

Look at that one.

What a tyrant.

It would not be that.

There's no world where you have a manual.

He's the tyrant.

You want to say it?

No.

You can't do a manual.

You're right.

It would lose some of the benefit for what the black wing has.

However, that's cool as hell.

We already ideated on this podcast.

We created the Lincoln Bronco, the new XTERRA.

And now we are creating this.

Do a shooting break C8 and make it a Cadillac to lean into Formula One.

And make it pretty.

If Cadillac wins Formula One, they'll make a C8 shooting break Cadillac.

It would be a great safety car for F1.

Imagine that leading out like...

Excellent.

I would renew my F1 TV.

Subscription if they did that.

I want to do two more very, very, very, very quick ones.

From ARK Latex V12.

On the previous episode, a lot was said about the California becoming more appreciated for the merits.

However, is there not a very similar car that matches or beats it in almost every category?

The R172 SLK 55.

Then he goes on a long ode to the SCV 55.

I am one of the few people...

But I know what he drives.

I am one of the few people who love.

Have you ever been in one of these cars?

No.

You know it's a Miata-sized car with a massive V8.

It is a raucous car.

And they are so cheap.

They are so cheap.

They are so cool.

It is way louder than it should be.

It is way faster than it should be.

It never should have done this.

And in fact, they later switched away from a V8 and went back to a turbo six-cylinder.

It's so cool.

355 horsepower in the car, the size of the Miata.

The Miata-sized.

The issue is that it's in no way similar to a Ferrari California in a way, shape, or form.

It is an NAV8.

Have you considered...

And it's got the girl vibe to it.

Like this is the hairdresser car for Mercedes.

It's like the lesser car.

But in actuality, if you know what you're...

When I see them on the street, I saw one just the other day.

And every time I have super respect for it.

You ever think about getting one of these?

No.

You ever driven one?

You don't buy an automatic pickup truck in my old Mercedes?

I inherited one and the station wagon is only available as such.

It's only available as such.

Well, this is also only available as such.

No.

I bet we could swap it.

I do think it's really cool.

It's a 55.

It should be swappable.

Crossfire would probably...

I'll tell you something.

Two years ago, the day I met Sam, I was in Charleston.

And I turroed one of these.

Oh, wow.

And it was South Carolina, so there's no rules.

And so the dude had it straight piped.

And you should have hurt.

I'm turro.

Oh, gosh.

You should have hurt.

And downtown Charleston is the most quiet, genteel place imaginable.

More than anywhere, Buckingham Palace is like a rowdy bar compared to downtown Charleston.

And I'm driving around.

And it looks like it wouldn't be loud, but it's a V8.

It's a straight pipe.

It's so absurd.

And I loved every minute of it.

That's awesome.

And I've never forgotten that experience.

Didn't you review one of these?

I want you to have one.

Yeah, I did review one not that long ago.

We sold on the site.

I got to find it.

I want you to have one, Felipe.

I think it's an incredibly cool car.

I'm interested.

I'm interested for you.

Okay.

Last question.

Some guy's long random username.

Is there ever going to buy it?

It was like one of those things where they hit the keyboard.

Is there ever going to be movement in the GT4 market?

Seems like any year in any spec is the same price as two to three years ago.

You know why folks?

Because it's the nucleus sports car.

Well, and also there's no...

By the way, there is movement in the Dino 308.

The reason is that they're not making more.

The 718, the Cayman is dead.

The next one maybe will exist in this form, but won't be as pure, certainly.

There may not be a non-EV1.

And so they retain value.

They retain value.

They're very poor made.

They're incredible to drive.

They're perfect cars.

They're so nice.

I'm not a Porsche guy, so let me just ask you guys a clarifying question.

Is there movement in the 4S market?

Because they sense that that is not as hot as they expected.

In the what?

GT4 RS.

Yes, those have cooled massively.

The 4RS and the Spider RS have cooled.

People don't want tip.

They just don't want tip.

Plus they built a lot of these and they were very expensive.

You know, Porsches saw what happened with GT4s with the other cars

and they decided instead of people making money reselling them,

Porsche will go and make the money.

And they did.

But the result of that has been that they have depreciated.

And the PDK.

And there will be other cool PDK cars.

There aren't that many great neutral manual cars.

But it's not a tip.

It's a PDK.

People say that to me and it's like, I don't have time for you.

Okay.

That was our podcast.

There was the finest podcast we've ever done in our entire lives.

Nick, stand up again.

Show us, show us what you got.

By the way, the Fast and the Furious exhibit at the Peterson opens March 14th.

If you want to go check it out.

They will have the Supra.

They may have the shorts.

We don't know.

The Fast and the Furious exhibit at the Peterson opens March 14th.

But Nick is ready today.

I am.

Like most Southern states, he's open for business.

Go bid on Reggie Jackson.

Oh, he's also selling an SVT Lightning.

The red one from the movie.

Not actually screen news, but close enough.

Fast and Furious again.

Here we are.

Goodbye everyone.

You

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The hosts dive into the soaring values of the Porsche Carrera GT, highlighting a rare golf blue model expected to fetch up to $6 million at auction, and discuss the anxiety of driving such appreciating cars. They also touch on geopolitical tensions affecting oil transport through the Strait of Hormuz, causing a sharp rise in gas prices and sparking debate on energy affordability and tariffs. The conversation blends car culture with current events, including reflections on the impact of tariffs and political promises on automotive costs.

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