Trev engages with listeners on a variety of tech-related topics, including mesh networks, mobile phones, and dash cams. He provides personalized advice, troubleshooting tips, and product recommendations based on listener inquiries. Notable discussions include a follow-up on a listener's iMessage issue, the importance of internet security software, and recommendations for budget-friendly phones and reliable dash cams. The episode also touches on Trev's experiences at CES and upcoming tech events, creating an engaging and informative atmosphere for tech enthusiasts.
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"Oh, mate, that's the easiest question in the world. There are so many great options out there. UNIDEN, who will disclose the responses of the EV podcast, excellent dash cams at super affordable prices as well."
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"...if I'm sitting in my little Hoopra, the dash cam is actually not visible to me as a driver..."
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"...the dash cam is actually not visible to me as a driver. It's behind the mirror..."
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Working with some sites and others, I think there was a Coles and Woolworth link to
that. It was complicated, but strange one. Turns out he fixed it with a factory
reset of the phone. So my guess is, just a guess, is that there was some sort of
filtering going on. So there's a level of filtering going on or maybe he'd flagged
certain numbers or certain SMS senders as blocked and so they weren't coming through
at all. So a factory reset has fixed that for Alan. So that's good to know. We'll
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security to Wi-Fi and dash cams, surely here on the show. Still in post CES
mode, I won't lie. It's January and I kind of slowly get into the year
because the start of January is epic. We went pretty hard, as you might have
seen. If you follow me on socials, you'll know. The reason I post
bragging posts, just to be clear. We wrote 71 articles, 44 videos, 1.5
million views, 10 TV spots or crosses, is to brag. Because if I don't do it,
there's some PRs out there who may not ever engage with me. It's a strange,
strange world. There are PR people who I don't hear from. There are
brands I don't hear from. It's weird. I can't seek every brand out. So you
got to brag a little sometimes, which is why I take to LinkedIn that way,
which is why I share it publicly on social media. You just sometimes
you got to do it. Yeah, it's the reason we do that. So yeah, January starts
off busy and then because the kids are at home, I'm trying to spend maybe
30, 40% of the week at home and then we'll get right back into it in
February with a bit of work to do. I'm pretty sure there'll be a
Samsung event at some point down the train. We've got Steven's son's
wedding. There's a lot going on in February. And at the end of
February, essentially, first week of March is the Melbourne Grand Prix.
So the Formula One is back at the start of March. So we are 47, 48 days
away from the Formula One season. And then if you didn't catch my
interview with Oscar Piastri last Friday on the Today Show, you can
watch the whole thing on the YouTube. So just search Oscar Piastri
Today Show. I'm sure it'll turn up somewhere. He's got a little
partnership with Google and the Google Pixels. He's using Gemini
and it's a smart partnership because Google's already a sponsor
of the McLaren Formula One team. So now they've leveraged the
individual as well. And some fun videos of Oscar. Look, using a
bit of AI, playing silly buggers on a TV shoot with a
remote control car. Yeah, just generally doing his thing. So
yeah, he's having a bit of fun. So yeah, that was a good
fun chat and one of his most comprehensive chats since the
2025 season and ahead of the 2026 season. So looking forward to
the F1 season kicking off soon. So we'll keep pumping through.
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line. G'day Mark. G'day Trevor. Mate, how are you? Happy
new year. Happy new year to you. Hope it brings some
good things for you this year. I've got good plans,
mate. I've got good plans. What can I do for you today?
Well, Trevor, I was reaching out to talk to you about Mesh
Networks, actually. Yep. I currently have a Mesh Network
Google Wi-Fi Pro 6E, which is, I believe, is a tri-brand
network. Right. And recently, I've had an increase in
speed. So I'm on the 750 plan with the NBN FD fiber to
the home with Telstra. 750 plan, you said, yeah. 750 plan. And
I have a Gen 3 modem with Telstra and three, I guess,
satellites, which came with the Mesh Network. Now, my
understanding and whether it's right or wrong, and I guess
that was the reason for the cause, is that what I can
see is that the modems receiving the full speed, I can
see that the mesh network at each individual satellite and
they're spread around the house, one's next to the modem and
the other two are in other separate rooms to, you know,
increase the speed. I work from home a couple of days a
week. And what I find is that the speed doesn't
transfer, although it gets to each of the satellite modems,
it doesn't forward it on. Now, this may be a problem
with this particular mesh network, but it chooses what
frequency it sends on. So my understanding is that the mesh
network can only transmit the highest speeds if it's using
the five or six bands, gigahertz, whereas it doesn't let you
choose them. So you can't isolate that.
You've got a single network as opposed to, you know, something
underscore 5g underscore 6, you've got a single network
SSID appearing in your home. And you don't really know how
each device is connecting like we used to have a distinct
network for 5g and whatnot. I just want to rewind a little
bit here. For first and foremost, you say that the speed is
getting to the Google devices. How do you know that?
The Google app tells you, well, and I whether this is true or
not, but the Google app sort of says, oh, it's receiving
that speed. So you can do a test with the app and it
says that it's receiving speed. And the router, so
there's three of three Google devices, one of them is a
router and two of them are satellites, I'm assuming, and
the router is plugged into the Telstra modem. Is that
correct? Correct. Yeah. Okay. And from there, you basically
got a situation where device by device or any of them get
any of your own devices getting great speeds and
others not, or are they all getting bad speeds that you
can see? No, the speed, and this is the interesting
thing. So in the room where the modem is, you'll get a
higher speed, you'll get the, you know, close to the 750, but
the other end of the house where I have the other and one
of the satellites, I'm only getting about 250 to 300.
Yeah. First world problems, let's be honest there.
No, it's not it's not first world problems. But I guess, and
maybe this is just for your listeners, I think that
everyone would be expecting that's right. Well, I
expected that. If you're paying for 750 and you've got a
decent network, let's be clear, because some people pay for
750 and they've just got the modem and they're expecting it
everywhere. So you've already gone one step ahead and got
yourself a mesh setup. The Telstra modem has its own SSID, I'm
assuming is that still broadcasting a wireless
signal? It is. I've tried it with and without. In fact,
they both have the same SSID name, but hang on. So the
Telstra modem has the same SSID as the Google Mesh
setup.
Yeah, I've switched them on and off and it doesn't I did I did
that for a specific specific reason what I and again, listening
to your show, you know, when you talked about older
devices and air conditioning, for example, uses an older
Wi-Fi. So and we've got a watering system that uses an
older Wi-Fi. So I had the Telstra modem, which I
thought would just have that, you know, connecting to those two
devices on 2.4 and isolating 2.4 on the Telstra modem, and then
only using the mesh network for everything else. And I named
them differently in the beginning, one being a, you
know, I just gave it a six at the end for the for the other
SSID on the mesh. And so that thinking that I would, you
know, it would be better because I could leave the old
devices connecting to the older network. Yes. A newer devices
connecting to the new network. I worry there's a conflict
there. It didn't matter. I worry it didn't matter. I because
what's happening is your Telstra modem is sending out a
signal with with the name as is as other Googles. And I
think some of your devices are probably jumping between the
mesh network and the Telstra modem. So first and foremost,
I would say tidy that up because you really shouldn't
have. So what happens with me? I use the same SSID here at
the office. And I was just preparing to go go away to CS
and we take a wireless network with us. And I turned it on
the office and it just created chaos in here because it had
previously previously been the office network. So to turn
off the office network to turn on the the other one to
test it, it may not have may not be obviously causing you
issues. But I would argue it is a conflict. And it's it's
one of it's one thing we need to rule out as being the cause to
your issue. If you know what I mean, like we got to be careful
not to find a thing that is causing the issue. I mean,
first and foremost, you've probably answered the question in
the in that you've got some older devices you want on that
2.4 with the Telstra, but you don't need the Telstra modem in
any way shape or form because you've got fiber to the
home, you should be able to plug that Google straight in,
you know that simplifying the network is is at its core,
the wisest thing to be doing. So if you could, I'd want to get
rid of the Telstra modem and just have the Google system. And
secondary to that, then you've got to you've got to remove
that conflict to determine whether or not that is a factor
at all in the in the speed issues, but you've probably
already done that by just disabling Wi-Fi on the
Telstra modem generally. I did. I did. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I
did try it didn't matter either way. And yeah, I just I
guess my major reason for calling is that because the the
Google mesh doesn't allow you to select your own separate
and yeah, you you can't force it on to the faster speeds and it
may and I'm not sure that any other mesh networks allow you to
do that. Maybe I know that you're a big fan of the Orbi and
you can certainly on an order I know you can certainly
broadcast them as separate SSIDs. Yeah. But it is very rare
these days, to be honest, because most most devices,
essentially what they do these days is your device based on
its Wi-Fi technology. So let's say you've got a Wi-Fi 6E or
Wi-Fi 7 compatible device like a smartphone. It essentially
uses the right lane of the highway. It goes, well, I've
got a, you know, E tag, I'm going to go down there. I've
got it. I've got I've got a passenger. So I'm going to
go to the T2 lane. You know, it knows where to go. So
it should theoretically it should be prioritising that the
devices onto the right part of the network to give you that
efficiency. It doesn't sound like it is though, which is the
concern. The only other thing to do is that whole very annoying
troubleshooting, which is turning pretty much everything off
and determining whether there's a particular device or
devices in the home, which may be pushing that
designation away. So for example, what I would do if
I was in if we had a whole day is I would certainly disable the
Wi-Fi on the Telstra modem. I would leave the Google
network as it is, and I would turn off everything in the
house. And then I'd go with the most modern smartphone or
laptop, whatever you've got and turn that on and see what
speeds I get to see what's happening at its kind of
clearest. And then you turn on device by device, you
understand which devices may or may not be causing
conflicts within the network. And how you rectify that is
the next big problem and question. But, you know,
essentially, you'll be able to work out where the failure is.
If that makes sense.
Certainly does.
It's not fun. And the reason to the thing is the funny thing
is, is probably a huge percentage of people suffering
the same problem and not knowing it, which is why I
joke about the first world problem. Here we are. We're
talking about devices that are that are not that are
getting 300, 250, 300 megabit speeds. And that's not
what you want because you want more because you're paying
for more abs as you rightly should. But think about, you
know, two years ago, we were, we'd be happy to have had 100.
So it's that weird thing where I think a lot of people
don't notice that they're not getting the full beans. And
you're doing the right thing by saying, hang on, I'm paying
for 750. I should be getting 750 everywhere. But you now
need to do the hard yards determining where it is.
Yeah, no, I appreciate your help. I don't think I've
been helpful. But you know, it's a good reminder to
everyone that there's, there's probably some testing
everyone needs to do to work because here's the thing. The
last thing I'd say to everyone is, look, if you're paying
for 750, and the majority of your devices are actually
only getting 250, and it's working just, you know,
effectively not as fast as you'd like it to be down
grade to the 250 or the 500, like pay less, because
there's no point paying more if your current
infrastructure doesn't allow for it is really where
my head's out on that side of things.
Understand. All right, Mark, thanks for getting a touch,
buddy. No worries. Thank you again, any time at all. Thanks,
mate. Cheers. Yeah, it's not easy. And that's, frankly, not
a solution. Mark's like, hang on, that didn't help at all.
And I get that. But short of pulling out the network and
putting in another one on the hope that it does
something, I do think you need to eliminate a couple of
the conflicts there and rule out any internal factors,
which is what the NBN would tell you as well, if they
did customer service, because I think the vast majority
of times when people have issues, it is within their
home networks, not the the ISP or, you know, the incoming
internet. Anyway, love to hear from you. This is the
EFTM podcast.
Great to have you company and we'd love to hear from
you anytime. Ted's on the line. Good day, Ted.
Good day, Trev, how are you? Yeah, real good, buddy.
What can I do for you?
Mate, look, just looking at, I took a recommendation from
you a couple of years ago on a on a phone, mobile phone.
It was a A53 Oppo, bloody good. Enjoyed it. Pretty well
priced. But I'm looking for what what if I'm gonna
update what should I get, mate, at the moment. And I'm
looking at price to another, not technologically sound. So
I'm a bit of old school, you know?
Yeah, but you like you were very happy with what
you had. Is that what you're saying to me?
Yeah, I was. I was, but I think it was the A53 Oppo.
Yeah, what did you what are you willing to pay today for a
new phone?
Oh, no, five, six hundred bucks.
Yeah, I think that's a lovely price bracket to be in,
mate. Honestly, it's it's it's almost the the the middle
spot of the mid range. There's a couple I'd tell
you to look at. Firstly, Oppo again, they have the
Reno, Reno 13 at about six hundred bucks. Yes.
Beautiful phone, like a lovely phone. Another one
that my 14 year old son loves and I love as well is
the nothing phone. Nothing. Are you kidding me?
Not lying at all. It's called nothing. It looks a bit
funky and fancy. But it's it's just different,
mate. It's just it just it just has a different
vibe to it. You may not love the interface. It's a
bit more funky and fancy in terms of what the
software looks like. But mate, at that price
point, a really good value phone. If pushed, I
probably pick the the Oppo Reno over the nothing
though. And mate, at that point, you're probably
from there. You're ducking down to probably the
Samsung Galaxy A 36 would be the next choice.
OK, but you'd still recommend Oppo mate. Absolutely.
Great phones. Yes. I think put it this way. You've
got one now. It's a simple upgrade and it'll
last you last you a long time again.
Trev, fantastic. That's all I need to know,
mate. Thank you. No worries at all, mate. Have a
great day. Yeah, you too. Take care.
No worries at all. Just sometimes you just want that
rubber stamp that says, you know what? It's still OK
to buy that thing. Isn't that interesting? You know,
that's legit like all he wanted. All he wanted
to hear was that it was still OK to get one.
And it is it's a cracking set of phones. What's
really interesting because I'm on the I do this
whenever I'm talking about a specific set of
products, I'm normally on the JB website because
it's got a really easy price kind of guide so
you can choose the max price, etc, etc.
And then it's fascinating to me that that's
$600 price point. Like you jump from $599 pretty
much down to $499 to Samsung's Galaxy A26.
There's a TCL there as well. There's HMD and I've
got to be honest with you right now. I'm not
feeling the vibe about HMD anymore. I've had
several emails about the kids phone that we
were talking about last year and had someone
say it couldn't be registered in Australia.
Like I'm starting to get very nervous about whether
HMD is long for this world. That's just a vibe
though, folks. There is a Motorola at 449.
So you know, it's a great price point. It really
is worth checking out devices in that price
point. But I think I think if he was to grab
himself another oppo, he's going to be a very happy man.
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G'day, Joe.
Yeah, hi, Trev. How you going?
Mate, really good. What can I do for you?
I'm after recommendations for a dash cam.
My son's just got his new car. He's got his first car.
Sorry. I'm just after like a dash cam that
probably gives a little bit of peace of mind or
anything like that. Something that obviously records
front and front and rear. He's got any any
ideas, recommendations or anything like that.
Oh, mate, that's the easiest question in the world.
There are so many great options out there.
UNIDEN, who will disclose the responses of the
EV podcast, excellent dash cams at super affordable
prices as well. So there's there's something for
everyone there. And really, honestly, there's
something at every price point as well, which is
great. The front and rear means with certainly
with UNIDEN, you need to look for one that
has the R in the model name.
So they have so many different models, it'll
be confusing to you. But basically, if it's
got the R in the model name, it means it's got
the rear camera as well.
I'm just trying to think of there are other
features you think you might need or want in
the dash cam.
Something and also at night, because it does
work at night.
They'll all work at night. There's no issues.
As long as you're spending more than I
would say, mate, to be honest, you can get
dash cams for 100 bucks. But I would want
you spending certainly 150 plus.
You can spend 150 to 250 dollars and get
yourself a really nice dash cam.
UNIDEN's kind of mid range is, you know, three
to $400.
I'm looking at JB Hi-Fi right now. The dash
view 60R is $350 on special.
That's a front and rear.
The reason I love it for your son is because
it doesn't have a screen.
I don't love a dash cam with a screen.
I think it's an extra distraction.
I think being able to see the footage,
like, why do you need to see the wind
screens there? You don't need to look at a screen.
So and I would also say to you,
mount it on the passenger side.
So mount it on the passenger side,
the middle of the windscreen, but just to
the passenger side of the rear view mirror
so that it's not something that they're
that's in their view at all.
It's literally behind the mirror.
So if I'm sitting in my little
Hoopra, the dash cam is actually not
visible to me as a driver.
It's behind the mirror in kind of on an angle.
So that's a great place to mount them
as well and make sure you spend
the time to mount that rear camera.
But mate, three hundred and forty nine
dollars, probably a lot of money,
but it's a good, high quality dash cam
that will will will be great.
And hopefully you never need it.
But it's those it's that that's that
piece of mind, mate. You know, he comes
home, he's got a ding ding on the
on the back corner and he says,
you wouldn't believe what happened.
I'll hang on a minute. Let's go to the dash cam.
You know, yeah, with that with that
particular one, this with that
one record when his car's parked
and all that as well, too, will I pick
up anything as well or will I need
to go up another another model for
that one? Most of the unit ends do
have the parking kit available.
What I would say to you is you definitely
want to get it professionally installed
if you want the parking kit because
what has to be wired into the kind
of the fuse box so that it's
getting, you know, residual power
and you want it done properly so
that it doesn't drain the battery.
It should turn off when the battery
voltage gets to a certain point.
I'm looking here.
I don't see the note that says
that one hardwire kit.
You might need to separately buy.
I'm pretty sure you can buy it for
any unit end dash cam.
The the hardwire kit does say
unit end hardwire kit comes with it.
So that might be OK.
Hardwire hardware kit, it says,
but hardwire kit is normally another
40 bucks, but that'll that'll
that'll connect into the fuse box
so that it'll do your parking
sensors and things like that.
And what it does is, as I said,
it shuts off automatically to preserve
your car's battery.
Yeah. Again, install it properly.
Get it professionally installed.
Yeah, that's one.
But like when I take it for a service,
I'll give it to the or electrician
to do it. Well, any good
or electrician can do that.
Yeah. The other the other thing
is how can we access the data from
is it like a state card that goes in
there or can we access it by the
word? If something happens,
what do we need to take the state
card out or do we can we access
a by the word where by default
pretty much every dash cam has
an SD card in it.
So that's the simplest way you pull
it. To be honest, it is the absolute
easiest way you pull the card out.
You put it in a computer and you look
at the footage.
You need them, though, do have an app.
So you're sitting in the car,
you know, cars on, you load up the
app. There's a Wi-Fi network that
the little dash cam has and you
connect to that Wi-Fi network.
And then in the app, you can see
all the footage. You can download
it directly to your phone over the
Wi-Fi. It's not as fast
because you've got to wait for it
to download, but very easy to do.
In the event of an accident,
you know, if we're going to take the
extreme case and obviously touch
would never never something you need
to do.
The dash cam will stop working
and and the footage will be saved
and you better get it off the SD card.
OK, no worries.
OK, no worries.
Like I get home and he wouldn't
believe what I saw on the freeway
today. Just pull over in the
driveway and I'll sit there and
download it before I go inside.
Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good.
That's good. No, that's fine.
Thanks. Thanks for that, Trevor.
How old did you say?
18. Yeah, mate.
Look, it's a it's a fun time.
We're still my 19 year old still
has life three sixty installed on
his phone.
Yes, that is my son.
And the great thing about that is
we pay. I think you have to pay
extra for it. It's a subscription.
But we get the driver alerts then.
So we get notifications about high
speed driving, like braking,
yeah, trip, trip durations,
all that kind of stuff.
And I just said to him,
it's a piece of mind for us.
Your girlfriend lives 30 minutes
away.
You get driving there, you know,
four times a week.
We want that piece of mind
and knowing you arrived and that
everything's OK. Yeah.
So yeah, that's it's a great
little thing to continue to do as
well.
Yes. No, thanks for that.
Appreciate it. Just one more
question for that.
An air tag.
It's the one that's sticking
in the car or anything like
that. Is it any particular brand
or anything like that?
Or were they pretty much
all or pretty good?
Pretty much all the same, mate.
You know, if you're on Apple
Family, then get yourself get
yourself a generic Apple Air
tag.
There's a company called.
We're an Android family.
Sorry. You're an Android family.
OK, well, get yourself
get yourself the tile, which also
works with Life360.
So tile would be a perfect
perfect way to do it.
Is that C I L E or?
T I L E.
I think you can get it with JB.
Yeah, yeah.
And and yeah, they're
they're they're great.
And they're they're actually
owned by Life360 now.
So it's all part of the one
app.
Yeah, no worries.
Thanks, Trevor.
Appreciate your time.
It's great, great, great help.
No worries, mate.
Enjoy.
No, thanks, Trevor.
Good to have you.
Thanks very much.
Good on you.
Yeah, I mean, it's a fun time
to to be a parent
is getting your kids in the car
and then you have that.
You want to give them the freedom,
you know, how you go.
Enjoy.
But you also have the complete
nervousness built in,
which is totally fine and
legitimate.
So yeah, it's it's
it's all good fun.
But good luck to Joe on that one.
This is the EFT and podcast.
Great to have you company.
I love to hear from you
whatever you want to talk about.
Ivan's on the line.
Good day, Ivan.
Good day, Trevor.
How are you?
Mate, very well.
This is a follow up because
when we spoke last,
you were you had the strangest
problem I reckon I've ever
encountered.
I'm still convinced of that
because it was that your phone
number was not registering
correctly with iCloud
and like the last two
digits has essentially been
changed.
I mean, it was just give me
a two second summary.
That's kind of broadly it,
isn't it?
Yeah, well, bizarre.
It was bizarre.
Even Apple said that when I
was first contacted by them.
But yeah, after updating,
as I said, from 18 to 26,
I found that my own messages
were being delivered using
a different number.
I can still call out normally
on my on my correct
number, but my own messages
are going out and coming up
on people's phone.
Unknown.
Now, what I mean, you tried
Apple support.
You'd had you had various,
as you said, they'd conceded
the bizarre nature of your
concerns.
But we tried to escalate it.
Well, what's happened since,
mate? Where are we at?
OK, so shortly after
my last conversation with you,
I was contacted by Apple,
their corporate sector,
and they assigned me a senior
engineer.
And her name was Sarah
and she was very helpful.
So within a day,
basically, I was on the phone
for a good three or four
hours with her.
And we went through all the
procedures that I had done
before with the previous
Apple people.
And she came to the
conclusion that she
that have to be escalated.
So she took a number of logs
from my device
and she came back a few
hours later and said, I want
you to do two things.
I want you to reset your
phone to
a factory reset.
And I don't want you to use
your iCloud backup to restore it.
I want it as a blank phone.
And I did that.
And unfortunately, guess what?
It came back with the same problem.
Oh, right.
So after that, she said,
could we just try one other thing?
I want you to switch off iMessage
and then I want you to not
also log out of your iPhone account.
And I want you to switch it on
24 hours later and see what happens.
And I did this.
I followed her extractions to the T
and guess what?
It fixed it. Wow.
Did she indicate that they had done
something or that was just
literally problem solving?
No, not at that stage.
And it was with Sarah, she said,
this is completely out of
any script that she has in front
of her for the customer to do.
And this is, you know, she just said
before I escalated to the engineering
department.
Just can you do that?
Because sometimes the
my account, my Apple account
cache gets corrupted
and after 24 hours, it's refreshed.
Oh, OK.
And so it brought in the new number
and, lo and behold,
or the new number, my correct number
for the for the I message function.
And that was the end of the section.
My only problem was I had to go then
and then put all my not been able
to use the cloud backup.
I had to go and put in my all my email
accounts and et cetera, et cetera,
download all my apps.
And but I got I got the phone back
after about a day of fiddling
around to its exact its exact,
you know, look before that.
And then I quickly did a backup.
Yeah, in a working state,
in a working state.
Now I'm able to, as I said,
now I'm able to upgrade to 17
because this one, as I said,
was getting beyond its life
with the battery and the speed and whatever.
And I noticed that as soon as I went
from 18 to 26, that it was a little bit clunky.
Mate, unbelievable.
I mean, it's such a bizarre thing.
And now you can send messages again
because you're running your business
off that number, too, aren't you?
I was, that's right.
And I've got to thank you, Trevor,
because, you know, I don't know what would happen
to the average Joe out there
because they wouldn't have been escalated
to be given access to a senior consultant
and engineering.
And, you know, as soon as I put the handset down
within a few hours, they called me reaching out.
Mate, a pleasure.
It's the least I can do
if I'm going to spend this many days
flying and traveling around the world
every year talking to these companies.
The least I can do is take advantage of them a little bit, eh?
Yeah, well, absolutely.
You know, it's not what you do it to your nose.
So as I said, I'm in IT
and I was scratching my head for weeks.
And you know, it's funny
because you mentioned the script that they go by.
And look, I think it's really important
people realise that when you're speaking to someone,
even if you're escalated within a call centre,
they're still only restricted
by whatever they've seen before
or whatever the script says.
Do you know what I mean?
Correct.
They're not the engineers.
So how do you break it through?
How do you break through that barrier
and get them to realise this is unheard of?
This is unprecedented.
We need a different level.
Yeah, well, Trevor, that's what I went through.
I was going around in a continual circle.
Every new person I was assigned to
just put me straight through the same old screen
that they have in front of them
and it wasn't getting anywhere.
And even Sarah said this is something
that they've never seen before.
And I believe it.
You are a trailblazer in the worst possible way.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, mate, I'm glad it's sorted.
I'm glad you've got your number working fully and properly again,
mate, and it's a better way to start the year.
Absolutely.
And thanks again for your help.
Mate, absolute pleasure, mate.
Enjoy.
OK.
No worries at all.
Good on you.
Great to hear from Ivan again there
and I'm glad we got resolution.
As I said, I'm not bagging anyone.
It's technical support.
To the point where, and this is a weird segue,
but I don't really bag the Optus call centre
for the triple zero emergency issues
because in the general state of play,
if you're a call centre operator on a mobile network
and someone says triple zero is not working,
you check the network, you follow a procedure
and you go, well, it's all working for us.
Obviously, Optus learned from that
and they'll escalate every single one of those calls.
You know, Apple now probably have some sort of record
of this very strange inquiry
and if it happens to just one more person, maybe,
they'll benefit from Ivan's knowledge of getting it working.
Good stuff.
Glad I got it sorted.
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We would love to hear from you anytime George is on the line.
Good day, George.
Hello, Trev, how are you?
I'm really good, mate. What can I do for you?
Look, a couple of quick things, mate.
These telly sticks or flick sticks for your telly.
Yes.
Yeah, my grandson bought me one of those fire TV thingies.
Yep.
And mate, I'm 76.
I can hardly work an iPad.
Never mind all that crap.
He reckons the telly sticks are the bee's knees.
No, I don't like buying stuff from America in the first place
of any good.
Look, so there's a couple of differences.
When you say something like a flick sticks
and there's a bunch of different brands out there,
very different to a fire stick.
So an Amazon fire stick is a legitimately great product
because what it does is it brings all of the known streaming
apps like, you know, Stan and Netflix and Amazon Prime
and all those things to any TV.
So if you've got a TV that's five, 10 years old,
it might not have all the latest apps.
Well, a little stick like that or a Google Chromecast.
Boom, you've got all the apps and they just work.
And the big thing is a lot of people
think that their TV is broken because an app doesn't work.
Well, who cares?
As long as the picture turns on, you can plug one of these,
you know, Amazon fire sticks or Google Chromecast into the TV
and you basically make it brand new again.
However, if you're on Facebook or you're getting stuck
in a little bit of a rabbit hole online,
you might come across these ones called Flixy Sticks
or Flix Sticks or there's a million different names.
And they market themselves.
They say, you know, X number of live TV channels,
live sport and da da da da.
Mate, it's not true.
It's not real.
What they are is exactly the same as an Amazon fire stick,
except Dodgy is heck.
There's no support.
They're not very fast.
They they're not very reliable.
They do have some apps built in.
But those live TV channels, those live sports,
they refer to, that's Americans learning about Free
to Air TV.
So imagine a world, George,
where we thought that the only way to watch sport
was on Fox Sports.
Just imagine that was the basic mentality of Australians,
that the only way to watch the cricket was on Fox Sports.
And then imagine someone started advertising
a little product that you plug into your TV
and then you plug in an antenna
and there's free live sports on Channel 7.
There's the cricket on Channel 9.
There's the football on Channel 9.
There's the tennis.
Imagine we marketed it like that.
You'd be like, wow, that's pretty cool.
It's Free to Air TV.
I mean, there's free sport in America
just like there's free sport here in Australia
just that Americans don't know it.
By default, Americans assume and rely on pay TV, cable TV.
70% of American homes have cable TV or satellite TV.
And don't even realize that some sport,
not all of it, is available free on the broadcast networks.
That's all those little sticks are promoting
is the free stuff.
Okay, all right.
All right, another very quickly thing.
I've been watching you fight
and a little robot and meet and face.
Mate, you should have picked the big ones to fight,
not the little ones.
No, you're kidding, aren't you?
As soon as I saw the size of those robots,
I thought I'm having a go at them.
Now, I took two of them on, mate.
That was so clever.
Anyway, I've got an energy team.
Watch the video back in the background
on the other side of the ring.
There's two people standing with their hands behind their back.
They're the people controlling the robots.
Is that right?
Yeah, they're using just little like Xbox controllers.
So they're not even autonomously boxing, mate.
Unfortunately, I don't want to spoil it for you,
but yeah, that's the situation.
No, okay.
Now, I've watched your things
about the new TVs all coming in.
I've got an LG 65 inch,
2017 B-Series OLED.
Beautiful.
I'm more than happy with it,
except for the burn in the bottom,
the Channel 9, Channel 7, the insignias.
Can that be fixed?
It can't be fixed, no.
It can't be fixed, but the good news is
that it shouldn't deter you from a modern OLED.
So basically, they know that that was a problem
over the years.
So a modern TV has a thing called Pixel Shift
built into it,
which basically moves the pixels around
without you noticing, just by a few millimeters.
And it means that nothing is quite stuck
on the same spot all the time
and the pixels get lit up differently.
But it is a reason why OLED is not foolproof.
It's not perfect.
It's unbelievably beautiful to look at,
but we are probably five to 10 years away
from a replacement technology that won't suffer burning.
You've got seven beautiful years out of that TV.
It's still a great TV.
I mean, do you throw it out because of the burn in?
Probably not.
Does it become maybe the man cave TV
and you get yourself a new lounge room TV?
Maybe, but yeah, a modern TV,
I'm not gonna say it won't burn in to be very clear
because if you only watch Channel 9,
18 hours of the day after five years,
you're probably gonna see a Channel 9 logo.
But here's what I would say to you.
If it took four years to burn in last time,
it's gonna take six or seven this time
because they've improved the technology in such a way.
All right.
I was looking at either the high sense or the LG,
but I saw what you've got.
I might wait a few years anyway.
Yeah, mate.
You've got a good TV.
Don't be buying a new TV just for the sake of it.
Ha ha ha.
Mate, I'm 76.
I'm gonna last that much longer anyway.
Oh, stop it.
You've got another three TVs in your life easily.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Anyway, my friend, eat more snakes.
Thank you very much for doing what you're doing.
I thoroughly enjoy it.
No, that means a lot.
Thank you, mate.
And thank you later, Scott and Adam for me, mate, too.
Absolutely, mate.
Good on you, buddy.
Thank you.
Take care.
Cheers.
No worries at all.
Very nice of George to be following me on Instagram.
Probably Instagram, not TikTok.
Maybe even Facebook, actually.
And watching all the videos we made from CES.
Very proud of what we did at CES.
Numbers are old now,
but like 71 different articles.
I think we made over 40 videos,
over 1.5 million views in the week we were there.
Yeah, it really, really dominated and very happy
with the performance of all that content.
So thank you, George and everyone else for watching.
Love to hear from you.
If you've seen the text,
producer Rob will definitely get back to you
and we'll try and line you up for a show very soon.
We record on Tuesday.
So hopefully we can talk to you in a Tuesday,
not too far ahead.
Jeff's on the line, good day, Jeff.
Good day.
Trevor, how are you going?
It looks like you had fun over there in CES.
We had a great time, mate.
Had a really, really great time.
I appreciate everyone engaging in the content, mate.
That's good.
What can I do for you?
Mate, as I said on my submission to you,
with today's major programs
and that they have their inbuilt
or advanced technology built in for security
and what have you,
now I've been using Norton's or Semantic products
for over 40 years.
And I'm just wondering whether we really need
off the shelf security programs now
given that there is inbuilt security in a lot of programs.
I think it's a great question, Jeff, it really is.
And I think if you reframe your thinking about
what it is that you're subscribing to,
what it is that the product that they offer,
you go back 15, 20 years
and we were buying antivirus software.
So it was software that when you downloaded
something out of your email or off the internet,
it would check that to see if it was a virus
and it would stop you from running it
and that was good.
Then we moved to malware,
which was there might be legitimate software
that had other malicious intent within it.
And then we've moved now,
that's still a broad problem,
but it's not, no, we're near the problem it used to be.
Now we've moved really to what we call internet security
and that's, I genuinely believe,
absolutely something we still need.
But it's actually more about assessing
your individual need based on the devices you use.
So is the first thing I install
on a computer internet security software
because I want to protect it from breaking?
No, is it internet security software
because I'm worried about what I'm gonna click on
accidentally that I fall for?
Yes, so what I want and what I want for everyone
is I want your phone, your tablet and your computer
to be second guessing you.
So in my browser, I use Chrome as a browser,
most websites are secure these days
so the transmission of internet's pretty good
and easy, information is secure,
but when I click a link, can I trust it?
When I search my email, when I search the internet,
can I trust the links that appear before me?
And what Trend Micro does is it puts this little tick box
next to every single link
and if it doesn't have a green tick, I'm not clicking it.
And the same applies on my smartphone.
If I get a text message, which does have a link in it
and I do think that it might be a real text message
and I click that link, I use Trend Micro,
Norton does the same.
It will come up with a message saying,
mate, don't click here, we suspect this to be bad.
And then it's on you, it's on you to click
if you really wanna click.
So yes, that's why I think we still need it.
Do you need the full suite?
Are you getting the true benefit of every single function
of the software that you're paying for?
Totally up to you, mate, but I absolutely want you
and everyone else to have the basics,
which is multi-device, protection from yourself
is what it should be called.
You protect it from yourself,
clicking on a link that you shouldn't click.
That's it, yep.
And the same goes for emails.
Yes.
I always check the sender.
If I don't know who the sender is,
I'll click on their name or the heading
and open up and see who it's actually coming from.
And sort of do my own security check
to make sure it's not spam
or something that's got a data miner connected to it.
Yeah.
My experience goes back to when I was using an IBM 64.
Wow.
It had a nine-inch floppy disk drive and it was 64K.
It's something.
Yeah.
Since then, I've been sort of into programming
or paradox,
WYSIWYG and a few other things,
but it's one of those things.
If you don't continue using it,
you don't keep up with it.
You cannot follow it.
Have you played around with any of the AI tools
in that sense then?
I've only just started to,
I've got an old computer,
but it does it when I say old,
it's probably five years old,
but it still works well.
And I don't see the point in replacing it
because the software is getting updated all the time
and it's doing what it needs to do.
But yes, the AI I should say has got me interested.
So I'm 75 years of age
and I still find things quite interesting.
I think that's the most exciting part about it is
it doesn't matter how old you are,
there's something in it.
Now, it might be that you're querying it
for basic information,
but also you talked about computing and programming
and these things are smart enough to build apps.
I mean, you could use AI
to not just learn a little programming language,
but actually do the programming.
So I'm fascinated by it for you.
And I hope that there's as many evolutions of technology
that you're seeing in your retirement
when I have time on my hands
because to muck around with that stuff
and still be able to kind of be at the cutting edge
and not feel like it's of a distance.
Like, I feel like technology's now closer to all of us
than it ever has been.
Yes, I'd agree.
And I've also now thought maybe I can,
as I mentioned before,
when you open up an email
and you're not sure who's sending it
and click on it and find out who it is,
whether I can write a program through AI
that will automatically do that for me.
Well, I would hope that we get to a point
where that's built into our email.
You know, like, I like, I mean, I use Gmail
and I'd like to think that they are spending as much time.
I think they are.
Here's a question for you, Jeff.
Have you fallen for a scam?
No, fortunately.
Yeah.
Because I'm...
And I can't remember the last time I wanted to either.
I do, thank you.
So I feel like if we're taking the time
and I do think that the Google system is unbelievable,
I think it picks up a lot more spam
than people might appreciate.
I rarely go into my spam folder
because I think it's false positives are very, very rare.
I only go there if I'm literally looking for an email,
someone said they sent.
But most of the time, mate,
what's in spam is literally rubbish.
So I think they're doing a great job
at cutting out that stuff.
Yeah, no, they have.
And I think it's Samsung that got NOx security.
So everything I've run virtually is on Samsung.
So with Norton,
I think I've got some pretty good security.
But that's why my question was,
with the technology today,
do we need the off the shelf?
But yeah, I agree that getting those green ticks
or getting...
I'm not going to open this connection
because we think that something wrong with it.
I'm very happy to receive those.
Yeah, it makes...
It gives you a sense of safety and security
when you can rely on that.
So it's good that you've seen that
and found that in Samsung NOx like that
and you can put some faith in it.
So mate, bottom line, you're doing the right thing,
but maybe just analyse whether you need the full suite
of everything that's being offered to you
by the software vendors would be my only feedback.
Yes, no, I've actually culled on what I need
because some of it is what I check anyway.
So I don't need to pay for what I can already do myself.
There you go. Good idea.
Good on you, Geoff. Great to hear from you, mate.
All right, Trevor. Thank you very much.
And I enjoy what you do.
Oh, mate, I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Thank you, mate. Bye-bye.
Thanks, Geoff. Good on you, mate. Lovely to hear from Geoff
and everyone this week on EFTM podcast.
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so we're kind of balancing away,
getting a bit of work done while trying to see the kids
and getting the shows done.
So it's all happening and then it all just winds up again.
February is going to be a very busy month.
We've definitely got a Samsung event in there somewhere, don't we?
There's got to be a new phone.
That can't be too far off being revealed.
Then we've got the Formula One Grand Prix in Melbourne.
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to get Apple to sort that out for him.
And you can imagine the head-scratching that was going on there.
Strange stuff.
And I still don't understand fully whether they did anything
or whether a reset and a pause was what did the job for him.
So good news, though.
He's sorted, he's happy, and that's what we like.
We like happy campers.
So if you've got a challenge you want us to assist with,
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I'll do my best, no guarantees,
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And that's what we're here to do.
I enjoy it, and I appreciate the help of producer Rob
getting me through each and every show
and keeping me on my toes with regards
to making sure I follow up all those things.
But so let's do it all again next week
as we get close.
I mean, can we, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I'm just going to the diary.
Like, next week is the last week of January.
How we already won 12th through the year.
Dude, that's amazing.
So next week, oh my God, that is just crazy.
Wow, anyway, let's just pause on that for a moment
and move on and come back to the concern
about the fullness of time at another angle.
Thanks for listening, folks,
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