The Garage Heroes In Training crew reflects on their challenging 2025, sharing candid updates on missed goals, injuries, and car troubles. Despite setbacks like broken hands and unfinished projects, they highlight memorable moments like endurance races and autocross events. The hosts humorously critique each other's performances and set realistic, focused goals for 2026, including more races, coaching, mechanical training, and personal health improvements. Special guest Khan from Blind Apex podcast joins for lively banter. The episode blends self-deprecating humor with genuine enthusiasm for racing and camaraderie, setting an optimistic tone for the upcoming season.
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GHiT 0745: Our Annual (But Very Late) Goals Review and Our Goals for 2026
Bill loves goals and after many reschedulings, we get this one done in just under the wire. We review our 2025 goals and how we did. Then we forecast some challenging goals for 2026. How did we do? Not well, lol.
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From the great halls of their house, there are assembled three who hope to one day be the world's greatest driving heroes.
Created from the cosmic legends of the universe comes our team captain, the vision, Bill Fisher.
And there soon to be Wonder Woman, Vicky Fisher.
And our captain Marvel and head flight trainee, Jennifer Scriptuk.
Their mission to fight injustice, share what is right and wrong to get you out of your house
and come out racing with them and serve all mankind.
They are the garage heroes in training team.
Welcome to the garage heroes in training podcast. I haven't said that in a very long time.
We have no guests, but we have lots and lots of hosts. Let's see how good they are at their alphabet.
I'm out.
Bill, you're the one that just failed.
I said who I was. I don't need to say my name again. I'm still Bill because I've already said it.
And Jen's not here, so I'm Jeremy.
Yes, you are.
I'm Khan. I'm Max.
I'm Vicky.
That's right.
Khan from the Blind Apex podcast, the one that's kicking our butt and doing great podcast episodes, by the way.
Well done.
Are we competing?
Oh, God, no. Rising tide.
Oh, shit.
The whole thing.
When he knows he's going to lose.
No, I'm just kidding.
Welcome back, Santa Jeremy.
Haven't seen you in a long time.
You wait till you get to your goals, buddy. We'll see how you did.
Oh, not well at all.
Anyway, I toyed with the idea of just skipping 2025 and going right into 2026 for this episode because I think 2025 was a double buckle on just about everybody's part.
I'd be okay with that.
All right. So, you know how we have the good, the bad, the ugly. Let's start with the bad.
Alan, how was your 2025?
Well, you know, as always, we try to take the good with the bad here. Here I am just finishing up.
Oh, where's that camera?
Oh, no, that's right. Alan got injured.
I broke my hand. It's fine.
We're just about to go see the doctor another week and a half after three weeks or three months.
Another hand.
It's somewhat splinted.
You have another hand?
Maybe it's right. I went to some new tracks I hadn't been to before, so that was good stuff.
And here we are talking about the end. So we'll just call that a win.
How did you break your hand?
I just doing stuff I do, just pulling too hard.
Just doing Alan things?
Yeah.
You talked back to Kate and you tried to block it.
Yeah, it was full. It was a full unforced error on my part.
There was no other people around or dogs, anything, just me.
It's fine. It's fine.
So since we're starting off with the season was fine and I broke my hand,
unfortunately, I think you're going to be the highlight of this episode because I think everybody else did even work.
I was glad we made it through 2025. How about that?
All right. Well, alphabetically, I'm next.
So 2025 goals were run four to five endurance races.
We ran two, three, four endurance races.
I drove in zero.
Okay. I can defend every single one of those, but it's fine.
E46 proven for run an entire weekend.
It did. It ran. Who knew?
It's amazing. Who knew?
I got that one right. Do an autocross event. I did one. Who knew?
You did not. Did you really?
I did. That's right.
You actually drove it.
No. He went.
I went. I did not drive anything.
You had intentions of driving.
They were requesting a participation trophy is what you're saying.
We've done autocross training events in the past and there was three groups.
So you had one group working, one group driving and one group was off.
We've decided, hey, that works really well. Why don't we bring the dog?
It'll be great. And we go to the autocross event and there's two groups.
And that doesn't let somebody watch the dog.
Do the math anyway. So I watched the dog anyway.
All right. What else was I supposed to do?
I was supposed to get to 12 to 1500 elo and chess.
My non chess event.
Not having any clue as to what I was talking about at the time.
But that was reasonable. No, no, it's not.
Didn't get there. I'm at like 800.
Okay. Play first in in person tournament.
Did that life is good.
And then the group ever so nicely decided to vote on.
I need to drive at least one stint at every race.
Fail. Epic fail.
Not even close to fail. Way fail.
I was and backup plan con was ever so nice to say, hey, you should come to hyperfest.
Fail. Epic fail. Way to go.
And then Max and Audra were like, you need to come race with us at Lemons, New Hampshire.
You know what I did? I didn't even go to New Hampshire. Never mind race.
So, so let's just say 2025 was a punt at best.
It more was an attempted punt that was blocked in return for a touchdown by the other team.
That's how bad my 2025 was.
Miss Vicki, did I understate it?
No, you did not.
All right. One race. I had potentially COVID one race.
I broke my rib one race.
What did I do? There was a reason I didn't race the third one.
We didn't do that. We didn't do that. I don't remember whatever the dog.
It was crazy. Anyway, so let's just say 2025 is over.
Can we can we just say 2025 was over as a group 2025 is done, right?
We're going to go with rounding.
25 is done.
All right. Very well. Jennifer, what were your goals?
My goals were become more useful in the garage. Epic fail.
Get closer to HPV4. I didn't even go to one.
So that didn't work. Skid pad. Nope. Skid right by autocross.
I did do an autocross. It was fun. I had a good time.
That's one way to go Jennifer.
Actually, when I was at the autocross, I did multiple autocrosses
because each run I did a different track anyway.
Let's see.
Way to go Jen. Nice job. That's right.
Those codes were just a suggestion.
They have their own feelings. They do go their own route.
There's no points off for that.
Listen, you can't talk because the one autocross I went to with you,
you damn near ran me over and I wasn't on the track.
You got me?
Yeah, but you were in the same zip code, Bill.
I know. I was at Giant Stadium. Everybody was in.
It was deadly.
And then it started snowing and I'm like, oh, I'm getting way away from this.
If it's snowing and he's racing to get me off this track.
All right. Jennifer, can you continue?
Yes. Yes, I can.
Spend time getting better on track with front wheel drive cars.
Nope.
VIR with Ben. I did the Ben part, not the VIR part.
And fall failage with Vicki. Let's just go with fall failage
because we failed.
And I was supposed to do maybe get the HPD E4 times.
Let's see, is zero bigger than four?
Yes.
Okay. By Jeremy Math, I did that one too. So cross me off. Good.
Yeah.
Santa, Jeremy, you're next.
Thanks, Jan.
She's kicking butt this year.
I'll be back later. I'll be back later.
I just got to drink something.
Oh, my voice hurts right now.
Oh, all right. What did I have?
I don't know, Jeremy.
Five endurance races minimum.
How'd you do there, big guy?
Three.
Three.
When I count, I go, oh no.
Can we round up?
Yeah. Can we round up to five?
No, I did three, but we had unbelievable success this year.
We didn't race enough to have failures.
Well, no, I just built a car that was good enough not to have failures.
If you don't use it.
But we did actually have an epic failure at New Hampshire and that was pretty crazy.
Epic.
Okay.
So 60 days on track, counting extreme. Absolutely.
100% did that.
I think you did 60 days with just extreme.
I am over 90 days, I believe.
You mean you go to Kota this year?
I did go to Kota.
Oh, look at you.
We'll talk about that later.
Racing license with Nick.
No, Nick had a little one.
Instruct 18 events with extreme and others.
Yes, I believe I did 24, maybe more.
I don't know.
That counts.
Coach the kids to another baseball championship.
No, we ended up third overall,
which still wasn't bad,
but we did go to Cooperstown.
That's a championship unto itself.
Yes, and what an amazing time that was.
I know I would like to make sure that everybody's aware
that delivery for your one car
is all the handprints from your baseball team.
Yes, plus more.
We had over 70 kids ages 5 to 15
initially put their handprints on the car
and then Nick's son at four months old,
we stuffed his hand in paint
and put his hand on the car.
And how long did Nick sleep in the bathtub after that idea?
Yes, yes.
Get under 210 pounds, absolutely not.
I believe it says 200 pounds
for the non-blind people here.
This is a 00.
Oh, I see 210 on my side.
Yeah, that's because...
You guys in the right one, goes 2025 and 2026.
You sent like eight documents.
I don't know.
All right, fine.
200.
Okay, okay.
200, absolutely not.
More events with teams and friends.
No, we didn't.
We got three done.
Take a second off best lap times at all lemons races.
I know I definitely did that
because we had a much faster vehicle,
but I didn't actually look at comparisons.
And then Lucky Dog at VAR in June.
Nope, we did not make that.
So you did about as good as everybody else.
Oh, you did better than I'm about to do.
Let me see.
One, two...
Yeah, no.
We got two that were the same.
Basically, yeah.
It's like, I'm going to do extreme for 60 days.
I'm going to do 18 events with extreme.
Well, no, and others.
And I actually, I did two instructing HPDs.
You know what Jeremy's goals are going to be for next year?
I'm going to inhale 60 times.
My second goal is I'm going to exhale 60 times.
No, 62.
Okay.
Very well.
Well, that was a lot of goals.
I mean, you're sure to hit some of them when you have like 22.
Yeah.
See?
That's the most positive way of putting that I've ever heard.
You've got a future in consulting.
All right.
Con, are we going to summarize your debacle is just say no.
No, that's not true.
I got one.
Did you?
Yeah.
2024, I got all but one.
And then 2025, I got nothing but one.
So I think 2025 was a but.
Yeah, it was your, I think you wrote this or added this year long
regional podium.
Yeah, that wasn't going to happen when the car didn't work all
year, except for the last race.
You could have parked near the podium because it wasn't running.
So you could have put it just about anywhere.
It broke down by the podium.
There you go.
Is that count?
I mean, perfect.
I mean, you're near the podium.
Was it for the whole year is broken there?
Did he move it around?
No, no, we moved it.
But, you know, yeah, hire a professional coach.
Does a psychologist help people?
Like, does that count because I needed therapy?
I think you can't hire a coach unless you can actually drive
your car.
So the point in having a coach when your car is not working
is minimal.
So I think you were prudent in not hiring a coach this
year.
Yeah.
And so the other goal was to race outside my region.
Maybe twice.
Well, don't trailer your car real far if it's not going to
work.
So I didn't do that.
We'll skip the one that I actually hit.
We'll just continue to punch me in the face a little bit.
Focus on my health, blah, blah.
I did, but I didn't do what I really wanted to do, which
was like blues weight and all this stuff.
We did some challenges this year.
My wife and I do weird things like 100 mile backpacking
trips.
And stuff like that.
So we were able to do some crazy things, but I'm not
really going to count that because it doesn't really
want not what I wanted to do.
So the law versus spirit of the law now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The last one in red looks like a repeat.
So it's another coaching thing.
So the only thing I actually did much to my wife's
to grin because she calls it playing video games was I
was able to get my four hours a week on my sin.
So it's not wrong.
It's no, that's not true.
Okay.
So I do a specific program.
It's in I racing.
Yes, I do do some racing, but I do specific drills.
I worked on very specific things such as I the
AI racing and concentrating like literally resetting
after the first corner or purposely qualifying last to
work my way from the back to the front, which when my
car did work one time, I had to work from P 22 to P seven.
So I felt like I got to apply that kind of stuff.
But I have the actual number because I pulled it off my
sin rig.
I was logging it on an Excel spreadsheet because, you know,
I do spreadsheets all day.
And I got 6.18 hours a week on average.
So you didn't you actually did one?
Well, yes, I did.
I did do that one.
But like my wife would tell you, it was just playing
video games.
So, you know,
I think he's got the same opinion about me playing
chess.
So, you know, I feel.
She's like, what happened?
Where did you go?
Everyone else calls it training.
My wife calls it playing.
Pretty much.
Yup.
All right, Max, welcome back.
You had goals for 2025.
So number one for lemon's races plus some others.
So did four.
So I say that's good.
Considering what your year was like, yes, you're going to
say pass.
Somebody's got to pass some of these goals.
All right, we're going for it.
And then number two, add a new to Max track.
No.
Did not do that.
Number three, e 30 raced in season.
Yes, that happened, but not the way I thought it would.
But not mine, but yeah, not by choice, right?
Right, but that did happen five series race.
That did not happen.
That's cars still disassembled and needs a lot of attention.
And
Sounds like me.
Sounds like me.
Disassembled and need a lot of attention.
Yeah, I can relate to that too.
So e 46 race car started bonus points if tracked.
Nope.
But I did work on it a lot over the summer.
Well, I can.
I was given.
I'm going to get back to working on it.
This winter and see what I can do.
Hopefully get it out there.
Next year.
And then.
Final goal says at least one specky 30 race.
No.
That was the one I was, I wasn't sure about.
So, you know,
It gives you something to do for 2022 X. Hey, listen, you
crossed off two things.
Jeremy had like 60 and did one.
So, uh, no, he did one twice.
Two different ways.
I'm going to eat a fruit and I'm going to eat a watermelon this
year.
Anyway,
Way to go, Jeremy.
All right, Miss Vicki, you're going to carry the team with
with what you did in 2025.
And since she went already, I was going to say,
Oh, okay.
Welcome back to the podcast major.
Well, that's about the same as your 2025.
So, Miss Vicki, are you going to, are you going?
I didn't hear Alan when I didn't hear her go.
Did you go?
No.
So that's, so that's okay.
Bill skipped her.
Alan went, not Audra.
Go ahead, Audra.
She did, Bill. It's okay.
Hold on.
I got to go get the right doc.
Let's go back to the videotape.
Going out of order.
Right.
I swear I worked on too many docs and then I changed
I lost lost.
It is true.
I have, I have Audra's doc here.
Oh, I'm getting there.
Getting there.
Audra, I wrote all this and it's there.
And yep, it's on this version.
Okay.
Audra, like I said, in my mind.
Yeah.
So full lemons races.
One courtesy of Jeremy.
Thank you very much, Jeremy.
That was pretty awesome.
Return to autopress. Nope.
Beat max at autopress or race.
Nope.
I just wanted to clarify your attention back to item three.
On the docket there.
It says beat max.
Autopress or race.
So what, what criteria?
What sort of criteria, you know,
what rubric do you have for beating him?
I mean, because we all like to beat on him.
Usually.
You know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
usually when he's laying down and stuff,
you know,
like kicking him when he's down.
But like what,
how did you not beat him?
Like, how would you beat him?
Did you beat him to lunch?
Maybe.
I'm just saying, you know,
if you didn't say it was a race,
you just said you're going to beat him.
Yeah.
You know,
there was multiple criteria like that,
but none of that.
I mean,
I would say that you,
I watched you beat him at New Jersey.
So I mean,
that's at a race.
I mean,
he was a,
he was a tough boy.
He wasn't crying.
So I'll say,
I'll second that.
Yeah.
All right.
So,
so under you,
you kept everybody,
he kept it level with the rest of the pack here.
Huh?
Is that what we're saying?
All right.
Very well.
Well, luckily.
Miss Vicki,
the code name never fail.
Miss Vicki,
how was your 2025?
Well,
yeah,
I really didn't do much until like August.
So,
you've got all eight of them done in.
No.
Continue mechanic training.
Well,
I didn't really train,
but me and Alan did catch up for a day
and I did manage to put the race car back together.
And let me see,
work was effort on the transmission,
not for not trying.
I have been trying to make a connection with effort on the
transmission.
You're going to come up with an excuse.
No, I have.
A tree fell in his garage.
A tree fell in his garage or something.
You know, just making stuff up, you know.
Yeah.
Trying to catch up with him.
Let's see.
Finished the trailer interior.
My trailer went into the shop.
So I really didn't get much.
It was in there for like three months.
That's the guy tried to.
Okay.
So we literally told him take his time,
but he really took his time.
So yeah,
we're not going to do that.
I told him I needed the,
I told him I needed it by October.
And damn,
if he didn't wait till October to get it done.
So I didn't really have my trailer to work on.
Learn to weld.
Didn't happen.
Civic upgrade.
Nope.
Didn't happen.
Work with a coach.
Nope.
I didn't work with a coach,
but I did go into training.
With Ross Bentley.
Nope.
Okay.
Sim room.
Not done.
VIR for sure.
Didn't happen.
I even put VIR for sure.
Didn't happen.
Read speed secrets.
Maybe,
maybe sure went to VIR.
Maybe you were saying.
Yeah, right.
Sure.
Some person named sure was going to be at VIR.
So we got to check that.
We're going to have to talk to VIR.
Maybe, maybe you got that one.
Maybe you did.
It seems that we all backed out of VIR.
For different reasons,
but it's terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good thing that was our big goal for the year.
Yeah.
We had three shots at it too.
One, two, three.
Zero.
Yeah.
And don't forget your bonus one.
I'm not sure which.
Read speed secrets.
I didn't get a chance to get that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which speed secrets though?
There's multiple.
Multiple speeds.
The first one.
The last one actually.
Or the last one.
The last one.
Yeah.
So we can start our podcast series,
which we can't start,
but we're going to work on it.
All right.
So for those keeping score at home,
let's say there was 50 goals.
I believe we had seven.
Maybe, maybe eight out of four.
Man, we killed it with 20, 25.
You know, even in baseball,
we ain't making any money.
Garage heroes in training
should not be a consulting group.
Not this year.
We do it wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We show you what not to do.
We are an example of what not to do.
Blue sky.
That's right.
We had the best intentions.
And then we got kicked in the face.
It just depends where you start the graph.
Okay.
So if you start the graph now.
Yes.
You know, look at that improvement.
Yeah.
We have left for improvement.
You know, looking for, you know, I mean, there's room to grow.
Yes.
Yes.
2026 should be stellar compared to 2025.
We have nowhere else to go.
I mean, we over-promised and under-delivered in 2025.
I don't know if there's anywhere to go but up for 2026.
Nope.
Nope.
We'd have to all be inside Max's garage for it to be one.
These are goals.
These are not things that we said we would absolutely do.
They were our goals to try to do.
To our defense.
In our defense, you know,
Max is shot for a down solo.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
We had to come up with stuff.
Allen broke his hand.
Con broke his car.
We had family health issues.
But in the end, we sucked.
We failed.
We're all still here.
We are.
It was a tough year.
I have to say.
For what we did with the endurance races that we did.
We all actually had a pretty good year when we actually raced.
Quality.
Not quantity.
Yes.
So let's go.
Let's go backwards now, Miss Vicki.
Uh-huh.
What are your goals for 2026?
Well, um, continue mechanic training.
Um, I am going to attempt to finish the trailer now that we have it back.
Uh, let's see.
Welding.
I keep trying to get to welding.
Uh, I am going to be working with a coach that is actually lined up.
Um,
we're going to be working on the downstairs,
which includes the Sim room this winter.
Bill's already set that in motion.
Um,
VIR for sure.
Hold on.
This is like three.
At least the third year.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Uh,
I am going to be traveling to work on getting my instructor's license.
Uh,
I wouldn't mind doing another.
What was that thing that Audra and I did comp license?
Yeah.
The comp school.
That was fun.
Um,
that was work, but it was fun.
I wouldn't mind doing that again.
Um,
Yeah.
Bill went from VIR for sure to VIR for damn sure.
Um,
Yeah.
I think, I think that's going to be enough.
The more you add like Jeremy, the more likely you'll be successful.
Oh really?
I had nine.
Didn't everybody else have that?
Yeah.
I had eight.
Yeah.
I mean, come on.
The autocross was fun.
Bill,
you're pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's going to be enough.
The more you add like Jeremy,
the more likely you'll be successful.
Oh really?
I had nine.
Didn't everybody else have that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Bill, you're, you're muted.
Um,
The autocross was a lot of fun.
I did do the autocross with bill last year.
Yeah.
That was.
Yeah.
We could do that.
We could do that.
Autocross with Audra.
Audra, do you know how to autocross?
Do you remember?
Uh, you know, it's getting a little bit rusty.
Honestly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
for,
for us to have autocross more recently than you,
that's like shoe other foot. Yeah.
None recent though.
I mean,
you can't even be max.
No,
that means though,
that if you,
the owner of the car,
you get thrown out of the car.
So it looks like he needs to get it home.
That is,
that is wise.
You know,
there's some wisdom in there.
All right.
We're going in reverse.
Max, you're next.
What do you got?
What are you thinking?
What's your 2026 looking like?
So,
not burning your garage down.
That's your,
is that your first goal?
No,
no,
I'm not even going to put that.
So, um,
lemon's races.
I want to do,
um,
you know,
as many as possible.
Um,
as many as possible.
Um,
I guess,
I guess without,
well,
I guess at least,
I don't know,
five.
I'd say five.
At least five.
Um,
and you're traveling to,
to go to five.
I know we're going to have a logistic problem with that.
So,
okay.
So,
mid Ohio.
How about you just say endurance races?
I don't know.
I'm just saying there's five lemons races.
You're going pretty far.
Yeah,
we might have to,
we might have to jump out of lemons for some,
because there's,
there's mid Ohio and there's also Nelson ledges,
right?
That have been added.
So,
okay.
So there's two,
and then New Jersey,
that's three,
uh,
Thompson four,
New Hampshire five.
Okay.
Okay.
So,
there's five lemons races.
You're going pretty far.
Yeah.
We might have to,
we might have to jump out of lemons for some.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
And then if you,
you know,
isn't Nelson in New Jersey,
NJMP very close together though?
Like we can,
we can back to back.
I don't think they're back to back.
I think there might be at least one in between,
but,
but summit and NHMS are back to back,
but I still want to try to do that.
You just need two cars.
Let's,
let's do it this year.
Okay.
So, okay.
Yeah.
So lemons races.
I don't know.
Going for five.
We'll see what happens.
Spoken like a person who didn't learn from last year,
but go ahead.
Hey, yeah.
What else?
I would like to,
well,
I want to do one at least one SCCA regional race.
That means you need to finish your car.
It doesn't,
no, I'm not saying what kind of car or what class.
Just
an SCCA regional race.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One.
There we go.
And
Oh,
the five series.
Want to bring that back.
You're muted, Bill.
Anything else?
Does your three are going with three quality ones this year?
I guess we might as well say,
get the 46 out of the track.
That's a worry.
All right.
Let's just do that.
Okay.
Cool.
It looks like a good year.
I think if you finished those,
we should be all right.
Yeah.
Um,
okay.
Con,
what do you got?
So.
I have.
Podium in 50% of my races.
Oh, I got a type.
Hold on.
Let me,
let me give you my,
my copy.
You're in the wrong one, friend.
Bill, you're in the wrong one.
It's in there.
He already has it.
So do you need me to send you a link?
Did you lose the link I sent you?
You need to be sending another one?
I could put it right in the invite if you want.
That's my guy.
That's my guy.
So I do a little confusion.
I send out so many of my bad.
It was on me.
I'll take down.
So, um,
the other one,
you can keep typing bill or it's already in this one.
Is, uh,
I'm going back to hire a professional coach.
At least one time.
Tomorrow.
Uh, well,
I mean,
this is going out after tomorrow, maybe,
but, uh,
tomorrow I set my schedule.
With a pen instead of a pencil.
And I will have, uh,
I believe the same coach.
You guys are Scott Robertson.
Uh,
in my corner.
Um,
so optimize the car.
Buy session with data.
Um, I have.
An aim going in my car.
MXM this year, this winter I have,
I'm installing the fire link.
I'm on the list to get the fire link pro so I can steal the
OBD two data when that one comes out.
And I'm a race setup pro person because I have a feeling that
they're going to mess with the Toyo are again.
And while I figured it out in one weekend,
I'm not sure I'll figure the changes out in the next weekend.
I would also again like to race outside of my region and I'm
cheating because national championships is that seabring
and I really want to go.
It's like the historic track for me.
You know,
World War two.
You know,
old military base converted into a race track.
Uh,
why not take a front wheel drive McPherson car to the bumpiest
track in the world?
You know,
it sounds like a great idea.
Yeah.
Um,
I'm going to do two hours a week on my sim again.
Um,
I had to cut dial that back a little bit just so my wife doesn't
look at me sideways and,
uh,
my podcast,
uh,
it was a little hard.
That's a lot of video games.
It's a lot of video games.
Yeah.
How many quarters do you have?
A lot.
A lot.
Yeah.
I have the key to the quarter.
Oh, so you just have to cycle.
I just recycle them.
Yeah.
Um,
if I could get the Tony,
is it the,
not the Tony Stewart,
what was the Toyota like dirt track truck game from
back in the day at my house to be.
Yeah.
Iron Man Stewart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I could get that at my house,
my eye racing rig would just sit in the corner and rock.
But anyway,
because you get so much out of that game.
Oh, it's amazing.
You throw in like 10 bucks.
You could race at least through an entire football game.
At least that's how I did it at Pizza Hut while my dad
watched the Redskins.
So,
um,
anything to keep you quiet.
Right.
Right.
Passify me.
So,
um, and then the last one, um,
I wanted to also focus on my health,
but, uh,
let me define it as an average of two workouts a week for the
52 weeks of 2026.
So.
Okay.
Nice.
Mr. Jeremy, are these your goals?
Did I see here?
I wrote, I wrote them in there.
Nice.
Okay.
Look at me go.
I'm only going to criticize a couple of them,
but go ahead.
Okay.
So,
um,
I think I have on my list,
I think I have 10 that we are going to try to,
um,
go to between the two cars.
Um,
I need to lose weight.
I didn't put in a specific number in there because.
For one.
I'm going to go with 25 pounds.
Hmm.
I need to lose 25 pounds.
That's going to be my goal.
Does that mean no beard at the end of that?
When we do our goals episode next year?
Well,
I mean,
if it comes down to that and I need to shave it off and then
weigh myself right before,
then yeah.
He's got five pound of beard on right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um,
so now that I actually have.
The,
because we didn't plan on the BMW being done for this
year.
Um,
and I didn't race the trucks,
but now I have a baseline for lap times.
So in the lemons races that we did this year,
I need to take one second off each race.
Uh,
in my lap times.
Um,
at least in those three,
those three places and then I'll get,
you know,
the other races I'll get a baseline.
Um,
lucky dog,
VIR.
Okay.
Um,
finish and race.
The,
uh,
white E 46,
which it's not too far away from first race for that is
scheduled for June.
Um,
New Jersey.
What's that?
New Jersey.
Uh,
no.
Um,
hold on.
I think it's AER.
Um,
yeah.
Okay.
I remember your schedule.
Yeah.
June AER.
I think it is.
Um,
and then this year,
I'm going to up that from 60 days.
To 80 days on track.
Can I make a request on that?
Yes.
Drop the extreme days.
Make them race days.
Or make it a hundred.
Okay.
Um,
practice at a race counts as a race day.
Okay.
20.
Cause that way you got to do some HPDs or something.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
20 days or something.
Yeah.
Let's go 20.
20 race days.
Okay.
Yep.
All right.
20 race days.
I got it.
I'm doing it right now.
Got it.
Done.
Cool.
All right.
That sounds like a good year.
Jennifer,
what are you going to do this year?
Well,
you know,
I'm still thinking.
Get back to me later.
Okay.
All right.
Jen.
Thanks.
Uh,
Bill,
what are you doing?
Um,
we're going to four or five endurance races and HPD ease this year.
Okay.
E 46.
Oh, wait.
That's the wrong one.
Sorry.
I'm reading last year.
I'm like,
I was going to say this.
I'm very familiar.
All right.
I am getting help.
And I am going to improve as a driver.
Okay.
Yes, you are.
That's right.
I need professional help.
You need to drive in order to improve as a driver.
Dude,
do you know my time?
I love you.
I love you.
My times can only go up from last year.
You know,
whatever I do.
2025.
It's going to be more than I did in 2025.
I cannot do what I did in 25.
That level of performance is tough to achieve.
You know,
my record in New Jersey was this year.
Zero.
You go faster than that.
But you just,
you just bring your beard and you show me you can go faster than zero.
We'll talk.
All right.
All right.
All right.
So I am going to do at least two races.
I am aiming low because last year I aimed high and I didn't even hit the ground.
It was so bad.
I believe if it was an arrow,
it would have been burrowing under the ground.
It would not have gone with a nice gentle arc.
Nope.
You know,
knowing you the way I know you,
I think that's a good goal.
That's right.
That's right.
I think that's a good goal.
I can't do Thompson again this year, which sucks.
I haven't done Thompson in like five years.
I was going to do Thompson this one time back in band camp and then Vicki.
That was 2024.
And then Vicki drove it into a wall.
I'm going to do at least three HPD ease.
That could be,
did I just end up in the bathtub?
I wasn't looking.
Yes.
Yes, you did.
Not yet.
I made it so far.
She's on mute.
So I can just assume that I'm good.
Anyway, so I'm going to do at least three HPD ease and bonus.
I may not coach it.
One of them.
So I may just actually learn.
Who knew?
Thought it was weird.
Hey, come up to New Hampshire and do club motor sports for one of those HPD ease.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I could do that.
Yeah.
All right.
My chess goal for the year is I want to do a thousand Elo over the board.
So that's in on in person.
So Jeremy, I am going to join you.
I have added to my list.
I am losing 25 pounds this year.
I lost 20 last year, but I have plenty to do still.
So I'm going to do 25.
I will keep with you.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
You're in 25 cons in for 2025.
All right.
We're doing the survives a 25 again.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let me scroll down.
I'm on a different version than you guys con says 2025.
So that's that's my, because I since I'm hosting and talking so much.
I get to add one as we all know, because, you know, I make the rules.
So while you're adding that, I just want to let everybody know that Jen has
modified the doc for goals for 2026.
She is going to have more continued domination in 2026.
More.
And Jen, more continued domination.
Yes.
And she is also going to attend the goals podcast in 2026.
That is, that is her goal.
Jeremy, you and I both know that.
In order for Jen to attend this podcast, we have to do it like a one in the
afternoon.
Cause you know, we're, we're way past bedtime now.
All year to get ready.
All right.
She's going to sleep for a year.
Okay.
Yep.
Okay.
Well, Jeremy's in the sleeping in the bathtub now.
So that's fine.
Okay.
And nobody's going to like this one.
I'm going to decide at the end of this year.
If this is my last wheel to wheel year.
Yep.
I know.
That's a goal.
Well, I need to decide because I want to stay on the track.
The fun part about track is for me, the turning.
And, and, you know, I don't care about acceleration or deceleration.
It's always the turns.
And I may just go to instructing in time trials.
I don't know.
We'll see.
So we'll see.
So not if I have something to do with this.
You're not getting, you're not getting ready to be ready.
Taser up there.
Taser.
Well, first, first you'd have to have a Taser that works.
Anyway.
I'll be right back.
Just don't change your engine in your Taser.
It really sucks that he took his headphones off on that.
Can't make fun of people if they don't hear him.
Anyway, Miss Audra.
All right.
What do you got?
No.
Okay.
Sweet.
I will copy them and put them in the one I want.
That's fine.
All right.
So what do you got, Miss Audra?
You've got, you've looks like you've got some nice ones here.
Yep.
Well, I'm in races.
I want an autocross.
I want an autocross with Vicki.
Wait, wait, wait.
Some autocross.
Let me, let me think.
If I count and I use empirical numbers.
One, two, three, four, zero.
Some doesn't come up as a number.
Some, some does not come up as a number.
All right.
All right.
It do at least one autocross event.
Wow.
So she's going to get two with one.
She's going to autocross with Vicki.
I know.
I'm going to autocross with Vicki and get both.
Two goals.
One day.
I'm going to eat free check.
My second goal is I'm going to eat strawberry.
And my third goal is I'm going to eat watermelon.
And my fourth goal is cantaloupe.
Cantaloupe.
Yep.
That's my goal.
These are your goals.
You do what you want.
You do what you want.
We will, that's right.
Consistent host on G hit and she goes lower.
In a war.
Yeah.
I think we all can agree that we all had very high expectations
for 2025.
And we succeeded in digging a hole and going down below them.
Um, like Vicki, I also want to finish my trailer.
We can have a trailer party.
part of yet, Ms. Vicki, you're muted.
There are things for it that are in the trailer that are not actually, you know, mounted to
the walls.
Mm-hmm.
These things, you know, these things really do need to get done.
If it makes you feel better, we had a hose carrier for our trailer that had the hose
on it yet was not in the trailer nor on a wall.
So don't feel bad, Audra.
Ayasha, I purchased a wonderful SimRig last year.
Nice.
Did you use it?
I remember you talking about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's great.
It's great.
I've never used it.
But it's a mint condition.
It's almost like it's never been used.
Almost like new.
Like new.
Low-biles.
They're waiting for unboxing.
That's right.
Yeah.
So I'd like to put my button at seat and two or three HPDs.
I do want to get to club motorsport.
I have a couple of friends who are members who have offered Max and I several times to
go up to member days.
And I really want to do that.
Have you ever been there?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, friends who are members.
I've gone on member days.
I've been on all by myself at some times, which is hilarious.
But yeah, club is, it's so fun.
It's such a great little track.
Yeah.
I am so excited about it.
It's like the number one track, private track in the country.
Really?
I believe it was Car and Driver that did a write-up about that track, voted it the number one private
track in the country.
Wait, wait, wait.
It's better than Seaman's Airport?
I believe.
I don't remember who did the write-up, but yeah, I've seen it multiple times.
Hacks.
Bunch of hacks.
And perhaps plotting a return of shifting points.
Ooh, baby.
Now what are you only doing 10?
I looked at that and I was like, ooh.
I really want to bring back shifting points.
I've been talking to my full host about it and we're really hoping to do that.
So that's why it went from consistent host of X amount down to 10.
Yeah, I think so.
So does that mean it's going to be based on your racing, their racing, autocross?
Yeah.
To be determined, there's a lot of factors involved there.
I provide care for my mom, so we'll be trying to work out how I'm going to do that and care
for her at the same time.
Can I offer a, I know this is, you're sitting down so I can say this, a supporting idea.
I know you're not used to that from me.
I know.
I know.
What about for the Shifting Points Returns episode, the grand reopening is an episode of Ladies
Day at Thompson.
Oh, I do love that.
Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I'm thinking because I can't go.
Miss Vicki.
Every once in a while, Bill has a good idea.
Miss Vicki and Jen, looking for ladies in all the wrong places, and you guys are definitely
the wrong places.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Wow, I thought I was in the tub for that, I'm sure.
It sounded so much better in my head, but when I came out, I'm like, it's terrible.
But anyway, I'm just saying that could be, you know, maybe the return episode's the
leading up to, and then episode 2.2, I guess, could be the, how did the race go?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's a pretty great idea.
I think so.
All right.
Who's next?
Who else has the first name that starts with A, but comes before Audra?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Oh, hey, how are we doing?
Hey.
Hey, look at you.
The guy who sounds like he's inside a paper towel roll.
Heck yeah.
That's right.
He's good.
So, let's see.
Goals for 2026.
I'm going to try it for 411's races.
This year, I tried, my goal was four.
We did not get to four, but, you know, this just has scheduled works for me sometimes.
Yeah, I like to hit the 411's.
I like to hit Lucky Dog or two again.
No idea where.
I was lucky enough to get West twice to race with them.
That was pretty good stuff.
Continuing from last year, I want to continue to build out the pit supply stuff, just, you
know, more stuff to fix stuff on the road, whatever it may be.
My favorite pit tool of the year has just been those four mats that I, the four little
interlocking mats I get from Harbor Freight to Leon when it's cold and nasty and dirty.
Yep.
I give them my back every time.
I like to, again, try to attend a grid life event.
I was over on that one last year.
That's a good one, too.
And it's so close to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the Capri.
I like to hear the Capri run this year.
I think I'm a much better spot than I was last year, so we have a good chance of making
that thing happen.
Okay.
Now we've come to my favorite part of the podcast where I get to tell you what
your goal is for next year.
Alan, I have changed the Capri.
I have the Capri running and moving under its own power, not on track.
Okay.
Running and moving.
Stopping.
Stopping would be great.
And stopping is always good before it starts running and moving.
Yes.
Well, I mean, the tree can stop it or the house, either way.
It doesn't matter.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, if he wants to do that, the tree might lose.
The Capri is built solid.
That thing, I think it's the thickest metal we have on any fender we have here.
Okay.
So is that acceptable for you, Mr. Danvers?
I love that.
Yeah, it sounds awesome.
All right.
You know, I'm just saying there's somebody on this podcast whose goal is
to learn mechanical.
So you could have someone to help you with the Capri.
I like it.
You know, and I believe that person has already turned wretches on that Capri as well.
I believe she has.
I believe she has.
Not sure.
I believe so.
I'm just saying, you know, you don't have to go solo meal.
Anyway, Miss Audra.
I already told you what my idea was.
Ladies day at Thompson.
So I don't know that I can guarantee that you have the ability to make that happen,
but I think that would be fun in honor of the shifting points return.
The resurrection.
You know, I still have all those on my phone.
I listen to them every now and then.
They're quite fun.
All right.
I'm going to leave me for last because you guys get to beat me up.
Jen.
I have.
I have given you.
She has to read speed see tricks ultimate speed seekers.
This year, because she did so well on the last year.
Okay.
Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy, what do I have for you, Jeremy?
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I think we need to have the thing that you've been talking about for multiple
years.
And we have yet to pull off and we, we as a, as a group need to pull off.
Jeremy, you are the lead in setting up the G hit extended family event somewhere
done.
Could be at a go-kart track.
Could be at your house.
Could be at a race.
Done.
G hit extended family event.
Okay.
Con obviously invited.
Okay.
Done.
Con, you have the easiest one ever.
Oh no.
It is so self-serving of me, but yes, yes, I'm going to do it.
And Con, I think you already figured out what it is.
Con, you were going to help me make my Elo spreadsheet.
Okay.
I think we'll figure it out with your Excel skills and my lack of knowing
how to do this.
I'm really good at Excel, but there's a limit.
And this is like one click past and I just can't do it.
Max, Max, Max, Max.
Yes.
You are the, you are the one that was my, my, you know how when
you're Christmas shopping for people, you have the problem person.
You, you are my problem person.
You are, you were the one that I couldn't figure out what it is.
And then I think I figured it out.
You need to keep those beautiful locks of hair that you have.
Jeremy speaking for sure.
Jeremy keeps pushing his down to his chin.
He doesn't realize that if you stop pushing down,
the hair will come out of the top of your head,
not just the bottom.
All right, Max.
Here's, here's my thoughts.
You need to drive a new to you race car this year.
He did that in 2025.
Did he?
Did I?
He drove Jeremy's.
Oh, right.
Another new to you race car.
That car is awesome.
That car is awesome.
I think we'll figure out how to put heat in one of our race cars
because that was the awesomeest thing in Jeremy's ever.
Okay.
I had a backup for you, Max.
If you don't like the new to you, I have a backup for you.
And if you do pull off the backup, I want to go too.
Okay.
Here's your backup.
You have your choice.
Another new to you race car on track.
Or ice racing this year.
Oh, can't be next year because it's only like two days.
No, not been 2026.
Yeah.
No, I was just kidding.
Oh, okay.
I was tired.
Didn't catch it.
So ice racing and then a new to me race car.
Yep.
Those are your two choices.
So it is the new to me car,
a car that I don't own.
I don't own.
I don't own.
I don't own.
I don't own.
It could be a new race car that you haven't raced on track that
you own or it could be in somebody else's car.
Okay.
Okay.
Pretty easy.
Pretty easy.
I think all of us should have that.
I know.
I would.
I would totally try that together.
That would be super fun.
I think it'd be fantastic.
I'm thinking.
Has anybody ever done that?
That's here.
I have wanted to do that for the past three years and there
has been zero ice.
Jonah used to do it.
My other teammate,
Jonah used to do it all the time.
All the time.
Do you like it?
Oh yeah.
The last few years there has not been a race to do it.
Like even I've looked up here up in Northern New Hampshire,
Maine.
Yeah.
Minnesota, Michigan.
I know there's a place out there.
All right.
So Max, you're in charge of ice racing.
If ice racing comes to fruition, let everybody know.
Okay.
Don't keep it to yourself.
It's fine.
All right.
So my beautiful bride, my most supportive, most helpful,
you were a problem trial as well because I have so many ideas
that will put me in the bathtub.
So I have to figure out one that is non-tubworthy.
So I want you to do speed seekers so we can do the
podcast series.
I really, really do.
Is that acceptable or do you want something new?
I could do that.
Okay.
All right.
I'm not in the tub.
Very well.
All right.
So now my least favorite part of this, everyone gets to
nominate one for me.
Before we do that, can I add one to mine?
Of course, Jeremy.
Have I ever told you no?
I would like to get four new guests on this podcast.
Four new guests.
Including someone from Timo Neal Rally School.
I have tried.
They are tough to get.
Yeah.
Well, you're not me, my friend.
Oh, boy.
Spoken like the person who never comes on the podcast.
But go ahead.
No, I actually have an in now, Bill.
So we're going to chat about that later.
All right.
Very well.
That sounds good.
Oh, you know who I want you to get.
Yeah.
We're going to have to keep working on him.
One of the white whales of this podcast.
There's two white whales that this podcast has never gotten.
And Khan's the key to one of them.
And you're the key to the other one.
Khan even mentioned it when he came on the podcast.
Anyway, I did not.
You kind of did.
I knew who you were talking to there.
It's, it's fine.
It's fine.
No worries.
Okay.
All right.
People.
Treat me like the pinata that you always do.
Nominations for Bill's goals this year are.
Get in a goddamn car.
Oh.
Bingo.
Burn.
Don't drive it into a wall at a bridge.
Anyway.
Car.
You need to drive at least.
At least twice.
At least two races.
I'm going to give you three stints out of two races.
Okay.
I was only going to do one stint per race for two races.
That'll be two stints of two different races.
But I'm going to back up on this three.
I like that better.
Y'all been slacking.
We know how you are.
Allen with the math teacher.
And it's out of love.
It's out of love, Bill.
You can't make a proper decision until you've had.
Proper time on the side of racing.
Okay.
Decide.
So in addition to the requirement for a couple of races.
I would also say that if you don't do that,
then you have to defer.
Oh.
Decision.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
So I got the.
All right.
If not.
Pretty good.
Must defer.
God, I can't spell defer.
We're back to the dialogue on that thing.
Until.
20 27.
I don't see modifications on the.
You're not using the.
Oh, because you sent out like 16 of them.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
You broke up there.
I couldn't quite hear.
Hey, can you do us all a favor and send the one out that you're
modifying?
So we all have it because I'm going to print it out and I'm
going to.
Laminate it and put it in my garage so that I make sure that
I look at it every day.
Send him a text picture of it like every day.
There you go.
I can do that.
I was one of my.
Boring story.
All right.
What do you got for me?
Well, I would say go to VIR or hyperfest, but we know that's
never going to happen.
So.
The confidence you have.
Yeah.
I.
You don't have a sprint.
Racing license.
Do you?
I do.
You do with.
Massa.
Okay.
You need to do that.
I don't care where you go.
I don't care what sprint race.
Race in a sprint race.
Not go to.
You can go watch any of this.
I will change it from do to compete.
Is that is that good?
That's better.
In a sprint race.
Okay.
All right.
Who hasn't beaten me up like a pinata Alan and Audra Max.
I didn't hear Max say anything.
Oh.
I mean, I, you know, I agree with everyone else that you got to,
got to get in the car and do some.
Shut up and shut up and drive.
Huh?
Yeah.
Shut up and drive.
Shut up and drive.
The first part's hard.
Second part.
I can drive.
Yeah.
The shut up is hard.
That's much harder for me than the drive.
What'd you say?
I'm sorry.
Hey.
Audra, do you know what we found that's equally as amazing as having
heat in the car?
That New Hampshire motor speedway.
The radio.
Oh yeah.
I don't know if you, anybody watched any of the in car,
but yeah, I was pretty much dancing the entire two on an hour
and 15 minutes stint that I did.
Yeah.
On Sunday.
What's what's what album was it?
Or what was it mixed?
Well, we, we,
we had a CD in there, but we also had the radio on.
Nice.
You had the radio too?
I listened to the CD like, I don't know, 80 times that pit race
because I was under all yellow, you know.
I can make you a two hundred song CD.
I knew it very well.
I was jamming, you know.
Now that's what I call music.
I can make you a 200 song CD if you want.
It was great.
No, no hate on that, by the way.
I was so thrilled.
I was so thrilled.
Great.
No, no hate on that, by the way.
I was so thrilled.
Okay.
All right.
So who, Alan, you've, you've been quiet.
You want to pin out on me or you got it?
No, I, I, I'm down with the, I, I back up Jeremy with the
three stints at two different tracks.
Oh, that's right.
I thought you were just chiming in on math, but okay.
All right.
So we've got, I have to get into a car.
I have to drive at least two races and at least three
races at once or I must defer until 2027.
Compete in a sprint race.
That's going to be the hardest one, by the way.
And just shut up and drive.
Can I just write just drive because the shut up part.
I don't know that I'm going to, is that two?
Is that two or one?
Yeah.
Totally like talk all you want by drive.
Yeah.
I talked to myself constantly.
It's, it's a condition of driving.
Or, okay.
All right.
All right.
Or talk.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
So it sounds like we got a great 2026 and nothing but upside
from last year.
Yeah.
I don't think we could, we could do that bad again ever.
How about Alan?
What are your goals?
Well, for a 26.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Just domination like usual.
Standard.
I mean, I just copy and paste.
Yeah.
But we're doing the, we're just, we're kicking up the pit,
pit crew stuff, the, just the tools and supplies and skills
and that kind of thing.
Uh-huh.
I've been eyeballing some different charts and stuff that
people have been using for like the who does for this pit
stop, the driver, the fuel, the gas, that kind of thing.
That's one of the things I've been jamming that out.
So that's my story.
But I think we had nothing but success for 2026.
We had nothing but.
It has to be.
2025 was rough.
It was rough.
I think Max kicked it off by melting his garage.
And then it was, I'm not going to say it was downhill
from there, but it wasn't uphill.
We'll see.
Melting the garage, melting multiple race cars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, that was fun guys, everybody.
Khan, thank you for coming on.
Blind Apex podcast represents.
What up.
Anytime.
And the team welcome back.
Khan, is there any chance we can get you in one of our cars?
What's going to take?
What's going to take to get you in this car?
You have to convince my wife and that's never going to happen
because her heart is harder than her.
Her head is harder than granite.
I was going to say her heart is harder than granite.
You are ended up in the bathtub more than me,
but luckily she probably doesn't listen to our podcast either.
Well, listen to mine.
Knock on wood, right?
Knock to jinx anything, but if you have the same kind of
car troubles next year as you did this year,
then you can, it might be easier to convince her.
Things are repaired.
Knock on wood.
So we're ready to go.
Well, Khan, I truly hope so.
If people want to turn into the blind apex podcast,
how do they follow you?
Well, at the blind apex podcast on Instagram and just search
the blind apex podcast on every podcast platform.
Yep.
That word too.
Well, always fun.
2025 is in the books.
We've got a little bit of time on the calendar,
but this is the end of the season for this podcast.
So we are moving on to season nine.
Season nine.
Wow.
Alright.
Thanks everybody.
Have a great night.
Thank you.
Thank you guys.
I didn't know you had a podcast.
What is this podcast that you're bringing back?
Pause for a little bit.
Like four years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's like two years.
It feels longer.
It does feel longer, doesn't it?
It does.
Somebody just happened since then.
Basically, Con, it was a few girls got together,
got drunk and talked about fun shit.
Yeah.
And cars.
They were sort of crossing there every now and then,
but only when they forgot what they were supposed to be talking
about.
It was great.
It was good listening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My friends had one called the dumpster fire and it was
about racing and shenanigans at the track.
It lasted two and a half podcasts because they would
case race the entire podcast.
So nice.
Yeah.
One hour of three guys, 30 beers.
It was like, they would got rowdy and then slurry and then
you couldn't tell what they were talking about.
So.
We only did that a couple of times.
Mostly we like a proper little little inebriation that we
could continue.
The only one that was tough was the one where you guys were
at the bar.
Oh, I know that was a really terrible one.
That was tough to hear.
It was just background noise.
Yeah.
So, but the rest of them were all fantastic.
So shifting points podcast Con, well worth it.
Essentially, Audra enjoys finding creepy houses with
creepy things inside of them to go stay at.
Oh, that was weird too.
I don't know that she enjoys that.
She just manages to have a skill.
You know, there's a difference between having a
skill and enjoying the murder house.
Yeah.
You know, the murder house.
Yes.
April 6 2023 was the last one.
We'll just set you for automatic download for the next time.
The other ones are worth going back though.
They were actually pretty good.
Yeah.
The murder house one is funny.
I like that one.
Who, who quits after 56 episodes?
You're supposed to quit after like the third episode.
They didn't quit.
They just took a break.
Right.
It sounds like it sounds like Ross and Rachel to me, but
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