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Thank you for listening.
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Thank you for allowing me.
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Great to have you company.
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Great to be home too.
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A big show coming up.
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We've got a few things to talk about.
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We've got your calls.
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We'll talk messaging.
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We'll talk smartwatches.
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We've got your calls shortly.
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Can't wait for that.
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Plus, we've got to talk a bit of cricket.
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But you know, I love my baseball.
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We're not talking sport.
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We're talking craft.
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So we're going to talk to one of the heavies, one of the bosses of cricket, the global
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phenomenon that is taking the crafting world by storm and has been in Australia for
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Something my wife absolutely loves.
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Something I love doing as well, but I just don't do it a lot.
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But whenever there's a gift in our family, it's personalized.
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My wife will personalize it.
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And it'll be unbelievable.
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So look forward to that chat.
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Plus, we're going to talk gaming and PCs with Bradley Howe from ASUS and their recent launch
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of the ROG Xbox Ally, a phenomenal device.
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So we'll talk to Brad about that and computer gaming and all that and more shortly.
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I am home and it's great to be home.
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I was thinking about my flighty stats.
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And when I say that, I mean that's an app.
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So it's an app on your iPhone.
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It's not on Android yet weirdly because it's annoying when I travel on Android.
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I don't have the benefits of flighty.
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First and foremost, it's a record.
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So I can tell you that I took 45 flights this year.
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I traveled 274,346 kilometers through 12 airports and seven airlines.
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And I was in the air for a total flight time of 14 days and eight hours.
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6.8 times around the earth I flew in terms of distance.
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Almost to the moon, 0.7 times to the moon.
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I don't think that's a goal that I have is to make it to the moon.
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That 14 days, 344 hours in the air in a bloody metal tube flying at 500 to 800 kilometers an hour.
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It's a bit weird to think about, isn't it?
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But see the other benefit of flighty, along with stats, by the way,
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I think I've been tracking flighty for 10 years.
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1.95 million kilometers traveled.
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48.7 times around the world.
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Well, that's got to be to the moon and back a few times, doesn't it?
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Let's look five times to the moon and back.
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And that's just in the years I've been tracking.
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But the real benefit of flighty is notifications.
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You get notifications of gate assignments, aircraft assignments, baggage carriers,
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all that stuff far before the airline ever tells you.
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So honestly, if you travel, get flighty.
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It is such a cool app.
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Really, really love it.
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It's one of my first installs on a new device when I'm switching around.
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So yeah, anyway, I'm home.
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We're not officially the last trip of the year because we leave for CES on the 31st of December.
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Jacko and I get on a plane 31st of December.
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No, beating around the bush.
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It was just bloody cheap.
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Far cheaper to leave on the 31st than it was to leave the day after.
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So I chose to get permission from the wife to leave on our wedding anniversary.
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And yeah, we'll head over on the 31st of December.
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I think Jacko and I'll be in town for a day before Stig arrives.
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We'll head to Dodger Stadium, buy some merch, do our best and enjoy.
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But in the meantime, we've got a packed show.
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Lots to talk about.
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Now gaming is, it's a word that can be misconstrued
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because some people think of gaming as Candy Crush.
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Some people think of it as the enormous PCs that get built.
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And when I think of it in my world of motorsport,
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I saw a video last night of a guy who had three sim setups,
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one for like a two year old, one that looked like mine
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and one that was in a separate room that looked like a VH Supercar.
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It was the coolest thing I've ever seen.
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And I can only imagine the PC that it would have taken to drive that.
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But then I think about my kids and it's pretty much console gaming
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whether we've got a PC and it gets a bit of everything.
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But I gotta tell you, the last couple of weeks has been something very special.
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And that is why I have my next guest on Bradley Howe from Asus is on the line.
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Brad, good day, mate.
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Hey, Trev, how are you?
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I'm, well, I'm very lucky man because I have the ROG Xbox Ally X
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and I gotta tell you, this thing is phenomenal, phenomenal.
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Don't let me do all the talking.
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Sell me, sell my listeners the elevator pitch on the ROG Xbox Ally.
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It's an amazing device and something that we've very much just recently launched
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just brought to market officially a couple of weeks ago.
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And in particular, the one that you're fortunate enough to have is the ROG Xbox Ally X.
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So that's our top of the range model.
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It's the top of the tree basically.
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It is something, it's actually our third iteration of the Ally
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and Mobile Handle gaming console.
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We're finding, based on a lot of the consumer feedback we've had over the years,
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we've built this device specifically around that.
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And it's exciting to see it in market.
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We've had enormous, enormous success with the pre-orders and initial sales.
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And we're starting to see the stock finally arriving to reach the market.
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Finally arriving to retail is when it's not sold out.
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It's been a great start.
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And we're really seeing gamers are changing.
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Gamers that just typically would always be a laptop or a PC or even a console gamer.
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We're finding that just moved and evolved into something that's a lot more mobile.
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So the ROG Xbox Ally is ticking the boxes for a lot of people now.
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So the big thing about this, as you say, it's not the first,
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but this is the first to carry a very important name and logo.
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Not only are you able to call it the ROG Xbox,
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but you've also, there's an Xbox button on it.
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And that's not just something that happens by chance.
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That is, I'm assuming something that requires a lot of relationship,
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a lot of certification, a lot of testing.
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I don't think Microsoft has just thrown that logo around.
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No, they definitely not.
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And we're fortunate to have some amazing global and then local relationships
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with the Microsoft and the Xbox team.
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So yeah, we do have the button physically on the device.
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So one of the first in the world to have that and bring some new experience
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to the consumer as well.
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The call out is play all your games anywhere,
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but it's also this is an Xbox.
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And ultimately we want people to understand that moving from a console
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traditional gaming environment into an ROG Xbox ally.
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You'll still have that very familiar look and feel.
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And then obviously the device itself is actually built around the shape.
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The hand grips is built around the shape of an Xbox controller.
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It's taken to the next level.
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It's a weird one to talk about on the radio,
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but this last week I was talking about on the radio and I'd say,
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okay, so just imagine in your mind an Xbox controller,
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which I think most people can do.
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And now cut it in half and put it like a screen in the middle
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with a Windows computer behind it.
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That's what the ROG Xbox ally is.
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And so there's two of them.
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Now they're very easy to discern because the ROG Xbox ally is white
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and the ally X is black.
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I think the ally X is exclusive to JB for a little while as well.
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So that's 1600 and 999 for the standard.
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What's the broad difference?
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Is it really just like performance and power?
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How's it how's it differentiated?
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The differentiation is basically the whites being our 999 solution.
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That's our up to 720p gaming playback.
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So it's basically there as a great entry to the market.
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But then if you're wanting to be the enthusiast style gamer,
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you're going to want the ally X, which is the black model
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and currently exclusive in store retail with JB Hi-Fi.
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But then also we have it available in our Suzy store as well.
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But ultimately that's your 1080p gaming.
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That's your pinnacle.
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That's your AAA titles.
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That's the people that are after the best of the best.
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And they're getting it now in a 1599 handheld gaming console.
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It was an interesting one for me to set up
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because I've used consoles.
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I've got a big PC with Steam on it
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and you download all your games and that kind of stuff.
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The kids have got like Nintendo Switch
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and it's a very different style of gaming really.
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Your portability of a Switch, which is very,
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I just describe it as fun gaming.
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It's a much more serious level of gaming
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when you want a Windows based gaming system
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because of the type of games that are available.
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The first games I installed on ours were Hollow Knight
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because my son is a massive fan, my little 14 year old.
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I installed Call of Duty because I thought
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I needed something that was very iconically AAA.
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And then I think I installed City Skyline
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as a weird one because I was a massive SimCity fan as a kid.
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And so I've always wanted to get into City Skyline
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but any time I installed it on either my work PC
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or my laptop, my productivity goes down
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because it's available to me, right?
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So I put it on the ROGX Box, LiX, and mate,
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I took it to America.
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So much to my son's chagrin
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because I left the country with it.
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But mate, I played City Skyline on the plane, right?
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And then I'm sitting in my hotel
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and I've become a person that never turns the TV on a hotel anymore
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because it's just news is boring, whatever.
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So if I'm taking a break from work and I'm just chilling,
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I'm playing a computer game in the palm of my hand.
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It's quite a phenomenal thing to experience.
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I don't know, maybe that's just me,
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but I think it's a remarkable step forward in gaming.
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Yeah, it really is.
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I mean, it's a perfect real world example,
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but people are now trying to find new opportunities
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to be able to game on the go
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and the ROGX Box Ally and the Xbox LiX
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give that chance now.
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So whether you're a more entry-level gamer,
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you'll obviously look for the wide edition of the machine.
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But if you're that more premium,
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you've got the chance to step up
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and you're getting a better solution overall.
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But ultimately, if you're on the bus,
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you can quickly get an hour or so of gameplay
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on the way to work or on the way back home.
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And I think that's where people have now really,
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they've taken our mobile handheld console to the next level
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because they can see the benefit of them in real-world scenarios.
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It isn't just playing on your notebook at home
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or playing on your standard traditional console.
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You've now got the ability to go anywhere and play all your games.
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And games are passionate people.
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I'm sure your 14-year-old son loves it
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and he would have been devastated if you took it away with him.
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But people do love to just fill in their time with gameplay.
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It's a passion for people
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and has been for many years.
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And we can see it just evolving even more into the future.
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Is there an evolution?
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Have you seen through...
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Republican gamers is a brand that's been around for a long time
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and you've obviously got hardcore PCs
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and quite a wide range of them, too.
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But have you seen an uptick in the last few years?
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I mean, obviously, maybe during COVID
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there was an uptick because we're at home.
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But in general terms, is there a shift to gaming?
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Because I feel like there is.
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We had a bit of a peak with some console launches a few years ago
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but I feel like just generally
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I think people are using gaming as a escape.
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It's a escape from the headaches of the day,
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the dramas of whatever's going on.
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It's just like I'm just going to immerse myself in whatever it is.
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And it might be hardcore, but you call it duty.
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Or it might be something simple.
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Like I actually quite love watching my son play Hollow Knight
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because it's seemingly very innocent and simple
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and somewhat challenging,
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but not enough to be stressful.
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It's a great pastime.
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Yeah, I completely agree with my son.
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It's a big part of his life in just playing on his console
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and he has hit me up for an Xbox ally
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so I'll have to see what I can do there.
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But ultimately it is an escape.
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It's something where you can see
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they get passionate about what they're playing
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and I think the more and more solutions
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in this space that we can provide
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and obviously as I mentioned,
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this is our third iteration of the ROG Ally
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and if you think back to the OG
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which we like to affectionately call it the OG
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the first one we launched a couple of years ago to now
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we've made significant change in that time
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and it's all based on consumers feedback as well.
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We've actually taken some of the little bits
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of pieces of information we've taken from social media
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we've taken from firsthand feedback
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in retail environment as well
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talking to people about the device
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and you know it would be great if it had this
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you know it would be great if it had this
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and then that new full screen Xbox experience
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is a big part of that feedback as well
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so obviously it's been evolving for quite some time
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and we're fortunate to have partnered
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with the Xbox team on this
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and yeah there's definitely more to come in the future
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we're a company that innovates
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we'd love to be different and we'd love to innovate
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and I can guarantee there'll be something new again.
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Is it tough in your role
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because from ASUS perspective
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we've got obviously there's enterprise
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there's consumer PCs and laptops
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and then there's gaming
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it's quite a wide portfolio
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and we've had such a big push
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in the last two years really
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with you know consumer laptops
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they are now so powerful
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so much performance
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amazing battery life
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you know it used to be the kind of things
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performance wise that you'd numbers you'd
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strive to get from a gaming
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but is it a bit important to
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let people know that there's still
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capabilities that come from
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a gaming machine that you won't
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really get from you know a modern
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AI PC for example because
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you've got to be careful of the difference between
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corporate performance and AI performance
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and gaming performance
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yeah I think there's a key
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there's a key difference out of there
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and also I think you mentioned as well
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having a separate device for a separate
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purpose can be key from
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a productivity point of view as well
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but you know we're really fortunate at ASUS
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and the product portfolio we have
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across our lifestyle range
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into gaming you know we really do have a device
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that suits every type of consumer
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and we've even gone to the point where
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we've tried to make some devices look
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a little bit less gaming but they still have
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that gaming performance built in
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because people don't want to go to
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a you know corporate boarder meeting
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with all their flashing lights and RGB here
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and RGB there and sit in front of
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the professional community in terms of
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the boardroom style environment so
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we've sort of I guess cut down
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I remember seeing that stealth device at CES
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you were like this is the gamer's device
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for the corporate boardroom
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exactly right so that's the Zephyrus range
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in particular but we've extended that now
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into the lifestyle range so I think that's
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the key and we're very fortunate we do
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have you know 5,000 engineers globally
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that build us these amazing products
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and you know as the years pass
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we just seem to be taking it to the next level
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making sure there's a solution for everyone
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Is that a difficult thing to
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you know for an individual
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and I often have this conversation with people
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who it doesn't matter what the product is I'm reviewing
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a mobile phone is a great example to
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use a non specific one for you but
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people will say oh this phone
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is the same as last year and I go yeah
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but it's got a slightly better
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this slightly better that but they're not selling it
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to last year's owner they're selling it to the owner of one
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four years ago it's kind of
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the same with laptops isn't it it's like
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I know that the laptop last year
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was amazing I'm not suggesting you need to sell
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that and get another one that's not how
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even enterprises work you know they
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work on three and four and whatever year
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cycles the average individual is
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probably running a laptop that's five
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for those people and I guess you would
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see this in some way through research
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or feedback you get it must
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be a dramatic leap that people get
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these days when they get a new laptop
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whatever sort of laptop
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yeah and if you're using
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a four to five year old PC you're going
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to notice a significant change
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from something that was in
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to 2025 and then into 2026 next year
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obviously there's evolution
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of silicon technology from you know
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the likes of Intel AMD
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and now Snapdragon with the third
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silicon brand in the market but
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ultimately people are now having
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different conversations to what they used to have
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and I think battery life has become
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such an important topic to
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actually discuss with the consumer
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when they're in store and you know
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you go into I go into retail stores
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often and I listen to the conversations
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people have and they're not coming in
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saying I need a fast processor
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they're coming in saying I need
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multi days of battery life or I need
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a lightweight machine it's not
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just about performance now obviously
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that is important and that's
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just a I guess guarantee you're
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having more performance but
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as you move up the stack obviously
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in terms of price point you'll get a better
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performance in that way lower down the stack
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you may have you know may compromise
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on a few things but you know making sure
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there is a device for everybody is key
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and I think ultimately you know
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we're seeing a real change in consumers
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especially some of the board something
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from five years ago today's
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experience is significantly different
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but also that that conversation
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they have seems different as well
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there's something completely different
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everything we talked about and that's Chromebooks
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left of field probably but
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I want to give you an anecdotal story
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of my experience because
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I've known about Chromebooks forever right
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and every time I do a segment about laptops
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I go can you give me something very affordable
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I often end up with a 300 or 500 or 900
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dollar Chromebook and it's like
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this is cool and it's a great way of saying
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to people you don't need to spend whatever
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then 13 and 14 year olds now
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in my school had windows laptops
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and they looked I'll be honest
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they got good life out of them early early days
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I thought well done you've got multiple years
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which is a big deal for kids right with the
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way they treat them and everything right
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you know one had a broken screen the other one
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I think the battery whatever and I said to them
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both they both knocked on the door looking for
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something very very very in high
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demand and I think you can imagine
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what kids ask for from their parents
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in both phone and laptop space and I said
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absolutely not no way in the world
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the office and I went I've got a Chromebook here
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and I gave it to my daughter she was the first one
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to break a laptop and I said here it is
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the next day you've got a laptop and many kids
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probably have to wait and I said
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just trust me use it
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in the six months since
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my son has had the same problem and he's got a
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Chromebook both ASUS by the way
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they're bloody good
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and while of course
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they wish that they could do X, Y
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and Z on it there's no actual need
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for those X, Y's and Z's
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and this is what I said to parents don't listen to what your kids want
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because your kids want something
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that isn't what you bought the laptop for
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so while I think Harry might want
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to play Minecraft but I think he worked out a way to do that
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it's built into the school ecosystem
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I see my daughter now who's in year 9
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using websites like
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Notion and then Google Classroom and combining
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she's using Google's notebook
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LM and it's all happening on this device
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that was far cheaper than it would have cost
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me to replace it with a Windows machine
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which when you know
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in your heart that she's in year 9
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and she's got several more years to go
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there's definitely going to be another laptop in my life here
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because she's probably going to choose some creative
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thing and need more power and performance in year 11 and 12
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shout out to Chromebooks
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they're bloody good because these kids are doing everything
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they need to do with a Chromebook
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I'm super impressed
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Yeah same, both of my kids
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moved to exactly the same sort of
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change from a Windows device
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into a Chrome in their
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in their high school years
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and it was actually just based on the fact that I wanted
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them to trial it because
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I didn't know that Chrome was here
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I knew that Chromebooks, I've sold Chromebooks
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for 10 years but ultimately
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I'd never used one myself and I'm actually now
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using one as a companion device
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it hasn't replaced my Windows PC
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for me it's a companion
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and I was fortunate enough to get a very nice one
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Chromebook Plus so it's got some amazing features
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probably massive overkill for
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what I need but the fact that it's just seamless
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What are the core features of a Chromebook Plus?
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So you've got to have
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a much higher spec processor
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So that's how you get the evolution of it
21:40
It's like going from ROG Xbox Alloy to ROG Xbox Allax
21:42
Exactly, exactly, you're just moving up
21:46
I'm using a nice premium one at the moment
21:48
just finding it to be one as seamless experience
21:52
process is just so fast
21:56
and then the fact that I already
21:58
use everything on the cloud anyway
22:00
the accessibility of what I've got on my main PC
22:02
to then use on my Chromebook
22:04
when I'm just going between meetings
22:06
and things it's all there
22:08
and it's a very simple way of using things
22:10
and I can just leave my other machine behind
22:12
for the purpose of a meeting
22:14
or coffee catch up whatever it might be
22:16
but there's such a great device
22:20
quite a broad range in that space now
22:24
like you said, there is a lot of schools
22:26
that are just saying you have to buy a Chromebook
22:28
like it's not an if or a but
22:32
have within our corporate SOE
22:34
or environment that we have within the school
22:36
buy a Chromebook and the fact we've got a range
22:40
kids are very used to it as well because if they're
22:42
potentially an Android user
22:44
maybe not as many out there as I'd like to
22:46
Harry is, he's got a nothing phone
22:50
clouting the other night to his sister going
22:52
look at this face ID on his phone
22:54
on the nothing and then boom his laptop's
22:56
unlocked he's like you can't do that
22:58
you definitely can't
23:00
and they're the great features that I think
23:02
come to life when people actually get
23:04
immersed in the technology
23:06
and Harry sounds like a perfect example of it
23:08
but maybe dad's got plenty of tech
23:10
floating around he gets amongst it as well
23:12
which is great. Now before I let you go
23:14
we are coming up to probably
23:16
the biggest and most important
23:18
retail week or fortnight
23:20
of the year Black Friday
23:22
what are your insider tips
23:24
that you can share with us publicly
23:26
for people coming up to Black Friday
23:30
everyone I talk to in
23:32
both retail and supplies and things
23:36
and maybe they're just hyping it for me this is
23:40
I think you might be
23:42
you might have the right vibe
23:44
we're definitely seeing some
23:46
things coming through in the very near future
23:48
obviously November is the month
23:50
of Black Friday and then obviously kicks
23:52
into cyber Monday the Monday
23:54
after but there's definitely
23:56
significant deals that are going to be out there
23:58
I won't give too much away
24:00
but we're definitely seeing some
24:02
new price points we've never seen before
24:04
we're seeing the market
24:06
activity and the expectation
24:08
from all of our partners
24:10
whether it be sort of alliance partners or retailers
24:12
they're all saying this will be
24:14
the biggest by a long way
24:16
so there's a lot of expectation around it
24:18
it's boxing day used to be
24:22
for the year and Black Friday has taken
24:24
over that and it's been a number of years now
24:26
if you can get your back to school technology
24:28
shopping done in November that's not a bad
24:30
thing and the same time
24:34
putting laptops or gaming
24:38
on their Christmas list so
24:40
I think it's a really exciting time to be
24:42
doing that shopping because
24:44
the vibe is very very good
24:46
time to shop this Black Friday
24:48
and it sounds like it's the same with ASUS
24:50
and ROG products so that's very good to hear
24:52
mate congratulations on the
24:56
a phenomenal device I'm a massive fan
25:02
my biggest problem is I just need to understand city skyline
25:04
better but once I understand
25:06
the game better I feel
25:08
like that's going to be my retreat now it's going to be
25:10
as you said it's my little retreat
25:12
from the real world it's my way of
25:18
it's not a bad thing whatever game
25:20
you choose to play it's a great thing to do to switch off
25:22
from the world let alone the day
25:24
that's exactly right it's important
25:26
wouldn't for everyone to have a bit of a break I think nowadays
25:28
good on you mate great to chat
25:30
let's catch up soon thanks Trevor
25:36
you're listening to the EFTM
25:42
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25:50
that's all you got to do get in touch
25:52
and we will get you on the show Tom's on the line
25:56
good morning how are you? yeah really good mate
25:58
what can I do for you
26:04
I had an issue with my computer desktop
26:08
mine died because of a power
26:10
surge electrical storm
26:12
I got a new one through insurance
26:14
they posted it to me and
26:16
everything worked fine except
26:18
I cannot get the wifi to work
26:22
and it turns out that
26:24
the issue is in the motherboard
26:32
it just won't work off the computer
26:34
and it's a wifi motherboard
26:36
okay so but you've got it working already
26:38
on a card or is that card
26:42
I've got it working on a card
26:46
the motherboard itself
26:48
with the wifi installed
26:52
detect it Trevor it just says
26:54
broadband or dial up
26:58
it sounds like a motherboard designed
27:02
some sort of ethernet or other connection
27:06
but the motherboard
27:20
and it's got a wifi aerial
27:22
and the connector at the back
27:24
and it's got a real tech
27:26
real tech PCIe card
27:28
it just doesn't want to work
27:30
well I mean my question to you
27:32
really is what do you want to do
27:34
about it because you've got it working
27:36
through a third party means
27:38
is there something else you want to do
27:40
well yeah I've stolen
27:42
the PCIe card that's working
27:44
out of my wife's computer
27:46
and she wants it back
27:50
and I could send it back to the
27:54
but they took six weeks to get it to me
27:56
so that means I'm going to be without a computer
27:58
for another six weeks
28:00
yeah right okay so B for Bob
28:02
760M for Mary is that correct
28:16
what brand is the PC did it come to you
28:18
as a fully assembled PC or did you build it
28:20
they they built it for me
28:22
because the insurance company gives you
28:24
new for old like for like
28:26
right who's that they tried to match
28:34
they got a technician company to
28:38
with the same stats as what mine already
28:40
had because they replace it like
28:42
you know who that company is
28:46
like I say if I send it back
28:50
I'm going to be without a computer for another two months
28:52
have you spoken to them though what do they say
28:54
yes I did and they said
28:56
you'll just have to send it back there's nothing we can
29:00
they sound like the life of people don't they
29:02
okay can I ask you what's why
29:04
why a PC why are you
29:06
your wife as well why are you using big
29:08
tower PC still when we're in such a place
29:10
where all in ones or laptops or tablets
29:12
what do you get out of having a you know
29:14
PCI based PC going on
29:16
I do I'm an old guy but I do a lot of gaming
29:20
I like the thing I like about desktops
29:22
is you can modify them and upgrade them
29:24
and do all sorts of stuff throw new
29:26
RAM when you need it yeah
29:28
yeah well I've got a
29:30
change from an 8 gig video card
29:32
to a 12 gig and things like that
29:34
I can't do that with a laptop I don't know how
29:36
absolutely and you know what
29:38
you can't that's that's you stuck with what you get
29:48
well that one's lasted me eight years
29:50
until the power surge blew it up
29:54
I'll talk to ASUS and see whether we can get you
29:56
any local support that might
29:58
be able to give you software suggestions
30:00
that aren't you know take it back to where
30:02
you got it from because that's obviously not what you want to do
30:06
whether that can give us some advice on
30:08
getting that working B for Bob 670
30:12
yeah and don't forget the Wi-Fi
30:14
2 because there's two versions of the card
30:16
right of the motherboard
30:18
and it's definitely the Wi-Fi 2
30:20
I've got all right let's see
30:22
what we can find out it says
30:24
it says it's a known problem on the internet
30:28
it could be by us it could
30:34
too many things I can't find the right one
30:36
alright mate I'll see what we can do for you on support
30:38
all right thank you so much
30:40
thanks mate cheers thanks for getting in touch
30:42
and we'll see what we can do for you
30:44
cheers no worries at all yeah I spoke to Tom
30:48
Thursday last week and
30:50
gave us some suggestions and now
30:52
isn't that annoying
30:54
and it's also fascinating that
30:56
he's insured I went to the trouble of getting
30:58
a PC made spec for spec
31:00
I guess that's what you do right
31:02
but I'll talk to ASUS see whether we can get him
31:04
some more direct support
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Kim's on the line can I Kim?
32:21
Hi Trevor how are you going? Yeah really good
32:23
what can I do for you?
32:25
I've got a question about
32:27
can people hack into your phone
32:29
my husband received a text message
32:31
from me last weekend
32:33
and then he responded with a no so
32:35
I called him up and said what's this
32:37
he sent me a text message saying
32:39
our friends are going to be there soon and I said
32:41
I didn't send any message like that
32:43
and then when I came the message was gone
32:45
the message on his phone was gone
32:49
that's where I get suspicious
32:51
so first and foremost let's be clear
32:53
unfortunately it is possible
32:57
what we call spoof numbers
33:01
they've got technology
33:03
they've got computers and SIM cards and stuff
33:05
and they can simply type in a phone number
33:07
and then they can make calls send
33:09
text messages from that number
33:13
if that was what happened
33:15
probably very random although
33:17
they did text your husband
33:19
which is less random right
33:21
so in that instance
33:23
what you do is you draw how does that happen
33:25
well Optus, Medibank, Qantas
33:27
there's a lot of reasons why
33:29
they could easily know who you
33:31
are married to because two
33:33
entries in a database
33:35
of scammers with the same
33:37
address same surname
33:39
well they're going to assume their spouse
33:41
right so that's how they make those kind
33:43
of assertions they've got a profile
33:45
of us all that's how scammers work
33:47
they build profiles of us
33:49
and they use those profiles to defraud us
33:51
of money and information
33:53
so let's just assume that's how they did it
33:55
in that case they spoofed your number
33:57
and they contacted someone directly close to you
34:01
you know Ghana some other response
34:05
how did that message disappear
34:07
because it's not as your husband got an iPhone
34:11
no he doesn't he's got a Samsung I've got the iPhone
34:15
he said I did get it like I'll take a screenshot
34:17
and send it to you and then when he went back
34:19
he did look at it and it was gone
34:21
and is he using just the messages app
34:23
or what's he using WhatsApp
34:25
messages, only messages
34:27
see the reason that's even
34:31
I wonder if he could tell
34:33
whether it was a text message or an I
34:35
message because you're
34:37
it would have always come through as a text message
34:39
because you're on iPhone and he's on Android
34:41
it's always going to be green bubble in that sense
34:47
SMS I'm just looking at whether or not
34:51
to remotely do that for text messages
34:57
that's got me in touch worried
35:01
yeah same with me because I feel like there's
35:03
there's been a lot more going on
35:09
I'm scouting to my security system
35:11
that's what I thought at first and now I feel like
35:13
my phone's been listened to tapped
35:15
yeah that sort of stuff but I don't know how to find out
35:17
whether it is or not
35:19
this will require both you and your husband
35:21
doing this but I think you both
35:23
if you're nervous and you rightly
35:27
I would factory reset both
35:33
delete everything so make
35:35
sure your photos and your messages
35:37
and your contacts are all backed up wherever they are
35:39
in the cloud most likely on Gmail or something
35:43
yeah on both phones to a factory
35:45
reset so on an iPhone it's
35:47
a race all content and settings in the
35:49
in the settings settings general
35:51
reset a race all content
35:53
settings on an Android phone
35:55
just go to settings and search for factory
35:59
and and when you've done
36:03
take great vigilance around every
36:05
app you install and where those apps
36:07
come from because on your husband's
36:09
phone being Android there is more
36:11
likelihood of erroneous
36:13
app being installed that might
36:15
do some of these things but it also
36:21
it's so unlikely but
36:23
look I don't know what else has happened
36:25
in your world with computers and other
36:27
systems we just never know but in terms
36:29
of your phones if you've got any nervousness
36:31
wipe it wipe it and start again
36:35
cautious about any apps you install
36:37
any links you click and install
36:39
some internet security software on both phones
36:41
go and sign up for a trend micro
36:43
internet security and make sure
36:47
phones as well as you
36:49
have a trend micro that's
36:53
you get five devices so
36:55
I'll hook him up to that
36:57
alright so that's the best advice I've got for you today
36:59
okay wonderful thank you very much
37:01
for that no worries at all let me know how you go
37:03
okay thanks Trevor I appreciate that
37:05
good luck no worries at all
37:11
and I gotta tell you I feel like there's something else going on there
37:17
when I worked on the Ray Hadley morning show at 2GB
37:19
he got a lot of calls from people
37:21
a lot of calls from people
37:23
who had a problem or an issue or whatever it was
37:27
is what we call call vetting
37:29
so vetting the calls
37:31
every call that comes to a radio station doesn't get through
37:33
and nor should you think you have the entitlement
37:35
that you should get through
37:37
because it's about informing and entertaining
37:39
okay is that a boring phone call
37:41
don't put them through we had simple roles
37:43
but one of the things was
37:45
if there was some extraordinary story
37:47
maybe we need to dig deeper into it
37:49
so we wouldn't put you to air until we dug deeper into the story
37:51
maybe we'd heard the other side of the story
37:53
bunch of questions there
37:55
so I think Kim's call
37:57
poses more questions than answers
38:01
so yeah a lot more to unpack there
38:03
I would think that's all I'm going to say
38:05
but that's a good start
38:07
erase the phone see how you go
38:15
great to have you company
38:19
you can get a touch anytime
38:21
just go to the website eftm.com
38:23
or send me an sms or a whatsapp
38:31
I don't know when it was
38:35
maybe five six years ago
38:37
I was doing a mother's day
38:39
segment on the today show
38:41
and good PR friends of mine
38:45
called a cricket and I had no idea what it was
38:47
but my mother-in-law said
38:51
and I still haven't got the machine back
38:59
and this crafting world
39:03
I think two cricket machines at our home
39:05
and every birthday every celebration
39:09
we're putting together anything that relates to a gift
39:11
or an end of season something
39:13
my wife's personalising it
39:15
whether it's a drink bottle or a specific gift
39:17
and it's all thanks to
39:19
the cricket, what the heck is a cricket
39:21
well let's talk to our next guest which is Glenn Rogers
39:23
executive vice president
39:25
of cricket internationally joins me on the line
39:27
he's in Australia at the moment
39:29
what's your elevator pitch how do you describe
39:33
thank you Trevor nice to be here
39:35
it's not that easy doing an elevator pitch on cricket
39:37
we're a little bit complicated
39:41
we effectively make connected cutting machines
39:45
connected to our design space
39:49
it allows you to design
39:51
and then cut out hundreds of different materials
39:53
and effectively make
39:55
a personalised gift
39:57
or a personalised project
39:59
which you would typically use for yourself
40:01
or give to a loved one so the best way
40:03
is to use some examples
40:05
so a vinyl decal on a water bottle
40:07
and iron on that you would apply to
40:09
a t-shirt something like that
40:11
so the creation of personalised gifts
40:13
that you will give to friends and family
40:15
I was looking at your history
40:17
you worked at Seagate
40:19
my audience would know hard drives
40:21
you've worked at Logitech
40:23
some of the great accessories
40:25
and products for the tech world
40:27
could you ever have imagined
40:29
that you'd be saying to someone
40:31
you'd be talking about a cutting machine
40:35
cutting machine in your career
40:37
it's quite an amazing
40:41
the story of Cricut let alone its growth
40:43
over the last 5 or 10 years
40:45
it's certainly different
40:47
but in many ways it's very similar
40:49
we make hardware, we make software
40:51
that try and give great experiences
40:55
the major difference with Cricut
40:57
I would say is the passion for what we do
40:59
and the passion of our members
41:01
you said your wife and your mother-in-law have gone into Cricut
41:03
hopefully they're pretty passionate about what they do
41:07
is building a community
41:09
which tech brands struggle to do
41:13
this is a community of as I say
41:15
passionate folks who love what they do
41:17
and that is very humbling for us
41:19
and it's a community that
41:21
kind of learn together too don't they
41:23
so I remember early on
41:25
it was for my mother-in-law
41:31
and you create beautiful
41:33
birthday, Christmas whatever sort of cards
41:35
because it could not only cut
41:37
the cardboard into a shape and design
41:39
that was just beautiful but then it could
41:41
use a pen in the machine
41:45
either designs or the words on the card
41:47
so it is so much more than
41:49
just a cutting machine
41:51
but people learn from each other
41:53
whether it's on a Facebook group
41:55
or whether my wife has friends
41:57
who each have a Cricut
41:59
and she might show them something she's done
42:01
and then they go how do you do that
42:03
what material did you use
42:05
it's quite an amazing learning community isn't it
42:09
it's the best marketing
42:13
is you produce a beautiful gift for somebody
42:15
you give it to that person
42:17
and they say how the heck did you make that
42:19
and then the explanation begins
42:23
and as you say it's a positive community
42:25
it's pretty rare these days
42:27
that our members they help each other
42:29
they're there for each other
42:31
they explore different possibilities together
42:33
and just very grateful to have
42:35
that sort of member base on our side
42:37
and you mentioned software because it's kind of fascinating
42:39
a machine like that
42:41
you can't just open up Microsoft Word
42:45
it doesn't just print in the same way
42:47
you can buy a dot matrix
42:49
laser whatever sort of printer you want
42:53
whereas this requires
42:55
your software but your software has to be
43:01
that I can sign off on how user friendly
43:03
the cricket design space is because
43:05
I don't use it much
43:07
but the two or three times I've gone to use it
43:09
I've just gone so I want to make a present
43:11
for my wife and I want to use it
43:13
I'll secretly make a design
43:15
and hit print and cut it out
43:17
and I've got myself sorted
43:19
it's very easy to use
43:25
and like you said it's not the printing of things
43:27
which is fairly straightforward it's the cutting of things
43:29
so you need special files in our design platform
43:31
to be able to do that
43:33
I'm really pleased that you say you found it easy today
43:35
it's about to get a lot easier by the way
43:39
from research that there are probably
43:41
five or six major projects
43:43
that people would typically do
43:45
that would be and I've mentioned a couple of them
43:47
that would be a vinyl decal
43:51
making cards, greeting cards
43:53
doing print and cut stickers
43:55
and of those four or five or six
43:57
major projects people typically do
43:59
we're about to really reinvent
44:01
the software to hold your hand a lot more
44:03
through those projects
44:05
so you can either start from scratch
44:07
which you might have done to date
44:09
with some sort of specific idea in your mind
44:11
or you can come into the software
44:13
in the very near future and say
44:15
I want to make a t-shirt for my mother-in-law
44:17
and hold my hand to do that
44:19
and we will make it extremely simple
44:21
so both options will be there for you
44:23
have you thought about the risk
44:25
of redesign of software
44:27
you know plenty of companies
44:29
have done things internally thinking
44:31
this is going to be great and the software is going to be better
44:33
and more user friendly but in the end
44:35
it perhaps backfires
44:37
because of the loyal rusted on
44:39
oh I think of Sonos, I think it's a great example
44:41
of a company that went
44:43
to a new extreme with software
44:45
and it marginalised their existing community
44:47
do you risk that when you redesign
44:49
or change anything in your software?
44:51
I think we should be good
44:53
but that's top of mind forever
44:55
I mean we don't want to certainly alienate
44:57
the existing member base that we have
44:59
which is in the millions
45:01
but we want to make the experience as simple
45:03
as possible for all of our new members
45:05
that will join us in the future
45:07
and you can do both like I say
45:09
if you've enjoyed one making experience date
45:11
you can keep doing that
45:13
in the future and you can choose to go down that route as well
45:17
Because a company or a product
45:19
shall I say like Cricket
45:21
once it hits a certain threshold
45:25
you start to gain notoriety
45:27
and you also start to find competitors
45:29
there's always been competitors in space
45:31
but I'm assuming there's been more
45:35
how business is as the company grows
45:37
through a competitive landscape?
45:39
Yeah it's a great question
45:41
I mean business is good
45:43
we're a relatively young company
45:45
particularly in Australia
45:47
we landed here about 8 years ago
45:49
we grew very nicely
45:53
and then the pandemic came
45:55
which obviously wasn't nice for any of us personally
45:57
but from a business perspective
45:59
it allowed Cricket to really take off
46:01
everyone being stuck at home
46:03
Cricket was a great way to spend
46:05
the hours and enjoy our experience
46:07
since then I have to say
46:09
it's been tough as it has been
46:11
a little bit with some discretionary categories
46:13
out there coming off that slight
46:15
pandemic hangover if you like
46:17
but we're only just getting started
46:19
what's great about Cricket
46:21
and the fact what's great about Australia in general
46:23
is we know Australians are very crafty
46:25
from all of the research
46:27
that we do if not one of the craftiest
46:29
countries in the world quite frankly
46:33
we've described Cricket on this podcast today
46:35
but not every Australian has heard of Cricket
46:39
we're barely getting started
46:41
so our ceiling we believe is a long
46:43
long long way away and we hope to bring Cricket
46:45
to the masses over the years
46:47
how do you view the Australian market
46:49
because we sit here
46:51
sometimes back in the day
46:53
and I'm going back to my childhood
46:55
it was we were a second tier
46:57
global citizen because
46:59
movies would launch in America and then 6 months later
47:01
they'd be here when the iPhone
47:03
first came out at launch in America and then it came here
47:05
months or weeks or whatever later
47:09
before everyone because of time zones
47:11
but we certainly get them on launch day
47:13
is Australia a good
47:17
are we a different in any way to other
47:19
markets you've already mentioned we're crafty
47:21
in your sense but how
47:23
is Australia viewed as a global market
47:25
it's a great market
47:27
it's a really great market
47:29
it punches above its weight
47:33
tech companies these days we try and do things
47:35
globally and are able to
47:37
so Australia is not
47:39
late for the most part
47:41
we haven't used it as a test market either so it hasn't been early
47:43
but it's bang on time
47:45
craftier than many countries
47:47
like I was talking about
47:51
in Australia more than some of our other
47:53
developed markets I would say
47:55
thanks to the craftiness of the country
47:57
thanks to starting here 8 years ago
47:59
we just think it's a fantastic market
48:01
and we love our members here
48:03
we talked a little bit about our thriving
48:05
community which astounds us every day
48:07
with its positivity and Australia
48:09
has no exception to that
48:11
the Aussies are there for each other
48:13
like you spoke about
48:15
they will advise what next projects
48:17
to get into, what more fun to have
48:19
so it's just a fantastic market for us
48:21
do you as a business
48:23
and you must talk to different
48:25
members of your both executive team
48:27
who they are do you look at them and go
48:31
by some of the creations you see
48:33
because obviously you don't see what people create
48:35
unless they share it and obviously
48:37
that sometimes happens
48:39
in Facebook groups and the like but
48:41
is it often just a wonderful
48:43
feeling to see what people have created
48:45
that you might not never have imagined
48:49
question Trevor we are marvelled by two things
48:51
I would say one is the creativity
48:53
of people and just the
48:55
the ingenuity of some projects
48:57
that they create and two
48:59
and maybe even more importantly is
49:01
the emotional connections that they create
49:03
through those projects
49:05
a couple of examples so
49:07
one you know a much
49:09
beloved grandmother who would have
49:11
a family recipe passed through the generations
49:13
and the daughter using a cricket
49:17
cut out that recipe
49:19
on iron on iron it onto a tea towel
49:21
and give that tea towel as a Christmas
49:23
present to the granddaughter for example
49:27
stories like that every single day
49:29
we hear that cricket is a great therapy
49:31
for people because it's you know it's crafting
49:35
but it is the personal connections that are
49:37
made because I thought of this
49:39
I took the time to do it
49:41
I'm showing you that I know you through
49:43
the personalisation of this project and I'm showing
49:45
you that you matter to me that's what we
49:47
love about what we do
49:49
you know it is creative isn't it
49:51
because I look at my wife and we started
49:53
out you know just making drink bottles so
49:55
when my kids make the baseball
49:59
I would buy a drink bottle for every kid on the
50:01
team and we'd put their name on it and the team name
50:03
from that year and so it's this wonderful
50:05
memory really and you don't realise
50:07
how long a drink bottle lasts we've still got the bloody
50:09
things from five years ago in our cupboards you know
50:11
it's quite simple in that sense
50:13
but then I look at my wife wears
50:17
she's made using the cricket
50:19
how do you even do that and it's like
50:21
I know it's like leather or something that she's cut out
50:23
it's a combination of all the different
50:25
materials stuff of which
50:27
I didn't even know you could do is that part
50:29
of the problem with cricket in a good way
50:33
you could start out and just say it's a vinyl cutter
50:37
600 other things and how do you sell
50:39
or market those other things
50:41
to even existing users
50:43
yeah that's a great
50:47
probably an opportunity in the sense that
50:49
the machines are so versatile
50:51
they can cut so many materials into the hundreds
50:53
like you some of the examples
50:55
you gave you know even your wife cutting leather
50:57
for earrings absolutely
50:59
it's a bit of a blessing and a curse
51:01
we can confuse people sometimes
51:03
with the vast amount of things that you can cut
51:05
but what typically happens is
51:07
someone will enter through one particular
51:11
a great example is I want to do
51:13
my own wedding I'll do the invites
51:15
the place that things all of that
51:17
I come in for that need
51:19
and then I discover everything else
51:21
and get into the everything else
51:23
so yeah then the versatility
51:25
comes to life and people
51:27
go from there. Do you have data anecdotally
51:29
or otherwise about how
51:31
the shared experience becomes
51:33
the owned experience I'm thinking about
51:35
people in our community
51:37
who you know maybe came around
51:41
and you know cricketed with my wife
51:43
obviously we do the cutting and then they
51:45
sit in vinyl together and then you know that
51:47
six months later they've got their own machine
51:53
it doesn't exactly answer your question but we know
51:55
that our single best marketing strategy
51:57
like I spoke about is word of mouth
51:59
nearly half of our new customers
52:01
come from the recommendations from existing
52:03
customers which is amazing
52:05
for us because it just means people are happy
52:07
with their experience and again it is
52:09
the giving of those gifts or
52:11
meeting around at those cricket making parties
52:15
the community is just so vibrant
52:17
and so positive and so optimistic
52:19
that it's a bit of a snowball
52:21
we say you just got to push the snowball
52:23
down the hill a bit if that analogy works
52:25
in Australia push the snowball down a bit
52:27
and away it goes and that's typically
52:31
How tough is it building a
52:33
product roadmap when
52:35
you've already got a great product like honestly
52:37
and I talked to your amazing power team
52:39
here in Australia and you know there's something new
52:41
regularly and I'm like what more
52:43
can it do like you know
52:45
it is already an amazing
52:47
machine what more can it do
52:51
upgrade is it one of those things where you need to
52:53
we need to talk to people and make them
52:55
realise that in fact you're not
52:57
required to upgrade all the time on these things
52:59
often the new versions are just for new customers
53:01
but it's a very hard
53:03
thing when you've got such a great product already
53:05
to bring improvements
53:11
we also believe that we have
53:13
fantastic machines already but
53:15
we never stop I mean we have
53:17
designers and engineers who every
53:19
single day are thinking about what's next
53:21
and trust us there is a lot more that we could do
53:23
there is a lot more
53:25
that we're thinking about and that will be revealed
53:27
in the coming months and years
53:29
but yeah we find ourselves at the
53:31
intersection between tech and craft
53:33
which not many people do
53:35
and as a technology company our life
53:37
blood is innovation so we will just keep going
53:39
and going and bringing just
53:41
fantastic new experiences to our members
53:43
as much as we can. I'm always
53:45
fascinated by big companies
53:47
tech companies specifically obviously
53:49
and I look I've often said if I could
53:51
give it all away because I'm very
53:53
lucky I have a great job I get to see amazing
53:55
things but I could give it all away for one thing
53:57
it would be to work in
53:59
let's say the Apple R&D team
54:01
for a month and just see how far ahead
54:03
their roadmap goes and you get to experience
54:07
innovation sense do you
54:11
kind of overwhelm sometimes
54:13
by the view that you
54:15
get of the future because you're sitting
54:17
here you're talking in your mind thinking
54:19
these are cool things I can't tell you about
54:21
but you know what's coming
54:23
it must be amazing to get
54:25
that view of what's coming
54:27
in the world it's a great unique
54:31
it is cool it is cool I have
54:33
to say we're quite privileged to
54:35
you know our minds have to live in the future
54:37
but our feet have to live in the present
54:39
so striking that balance is not
54:41
obvious but it is cool what
54:43
what's particularly exciting at Cricket
54:45
is we know how passionate our
54:47
members are and we know
54:49
how many people we get to reach because we're
54:51
still a relatively small company in the grand
54:53
scheme of things although growing fast
54:55
and all of that is to come
54:57
so that makes my day job just super
55:01
terms of the Australian market
55:03
you know you had some very
55:05
very decent launch partners
55:07
and retail partners I know that
55:09
spotlight's been a massive massive thing
55:11
here in Australia Harvey Norman as well
55:15
mainstream retail really
55:17
made a difference for Cricket I think because
55:19
it could have been seen as a niche
55:21
craft store thing but to be
55:23
in Harvey Norman to be
55:25
a whole aisle essentially in spotlight
55:27
really does elevate
55:29
the brand let alone the
55:31
concept of cutting as a machine
55:35
you're right we have some great partners
55:37
that we're very very grateful for and
55:39
you know when we talk about who Cricket can
55:43
initially typically we start off with
55:45
core crafters who are used to
55:47
spending hours with their hands and making
55:49
great things and they you know migrate
55:51
to a cutting machine as
55:53
next step but really we appeal
55:55
to anybody we do a lot of research
55:59
our addressable market anybody
56:01
that has done a creative
56:03
pursuit and we have a list
56:05
of about 25 different creative pursuits
56:07
and if they've done one of those
56:09
in the last month or so
56:11
then they'll be right for Cricket
56:13
or we think Cricket will be right for them
56:15
and that's a large swath of
56:17
the population so you know don't
56:19
think just core craft is anyone
56:21
really who is into the creation
56:23
of anything creative and
56:25
who would enjoy giving gifts or even making
56:27
things for themselves we even have
56:29
a tranche of our business
56:31
which are we call them prosumers
56:33
somewhere between a consumer and a
56:37
people who prepare weddings
56:41
make cakes and want to do cake toppers with their
56:43
cricket machines people who do labels for
56:45
their small business so really
56:47
that we've only just started like I said
56:49
and that distribution that you spoke about helps
56:51
us get to many people as we can
56:53
can reach a cricket well it's a whole lot
56:57
remarkable to me the innovation and the
56:59
ideas that just come out of my own home
57:01
and both my wife and my mother-in-law
57:03
but when you take that to
57:05
the global scale and you realise what people
57:07
are doing with this thing it's I could
57:09
never have foreseen it honestly I
57:11
think I probably glossed over it in the early
57:13
days but I very quickly
57:15
realised what it was and the power of it
57:17
and you've also done the same and
57:19
you get to travel the world talking about it so
57:21
congratulations to the team on
57:23
the product and to the local
57:25
team here in Australia who are obviously doing
57:27
a great job to share
57:29
their load and do a great job building it
57:31
as a brand here in Australia and really
57:33
appreciate your time Glenn
57:35
not at all thank you to
57:37
you please thank your wife and your mother-in-law
57:39
for being into cricket as well and
57:45
you're listening to the EFTM podcast
57:51
join the conversation
57:59
great to have you company
58:01
go for it double seven six five seven six five
58:03
seven Chris is on the line can I Chris
58:05
good day Trev how you going
58:07
yeah really good what can I do for you mate
58:11
about smartwatches yeah
58:13
I'm in a fitness train
58:15
at the moment I just need something to
58:17
help me track my steps and a bit more like
58:21
tracky type of thing basically
58:23
what sort of fun have you got
58:25
I've got an iPhone 13
58:27
okay so you're in the Apple
58:29
ecosystem that's a good start have you thought
58:31
about or do you have any opinions about
58:33
the Apple Watch for example
58:39
SE I think it is or the URI or whatever
58:45
I think it's around 500 isn't it
58:47
uh SE so there's a new
58:49
SE out it starts at
58:53
but I would think that's the smaller
58:55
version so you're 449 for the
58:59
is probably your starting price for that one so you want
59:01
to go a bit cheaper than that
59:03
uh yeah I've um I've had a little
59:05
bit of a dive into like
59:07
smartwatches and once you do that you start
59:09
seeing a thousand bucks mate yeah exactly
59:11
so what in the mainstream
59:13
world because you can get a lot of ads for rubbish
59:15
from China so in the mainstream
59:17
world you know JV Hi-Fi style
59:19
what have you seen or narrowed it down to
59:23
that I keep seeing pop up is a hard
59:25
hat one it's a Australian brand
59:27
yeah I've seen it yeah yeah I've seen it
59:29
and um I was just going to say your thoughts
59:31
on that if you've got any opinions on it
59:33
I don't because I've seen the ads but I've
59:35
not used it my concern
59:37
if I'm if I'm to be really brutal
59:39
about it is I don't know
59:41
who they are where they're getting them from
59:43
but they're basically come to a
59:45
you know a designer or a factory
59:47
that can just produce something a bit more durable
59:49
I see that as being for the
59:51
the tradie market is that where you work are you a
59:55
I can't I work in manufacturing
59:57
so I do use tools and everything
59:59
like that but nothing like an actual
00:03
look my only concern is just apps
00:05
compatibility the things it can do
00:07
so for example what's that worth by
00:09
the way the hard hat
00:11
it's on sale at moment for $199
00:15
give you one that's cheaper than that
00:19
if you go to JB Hi-Fi they've got a thing called the
00:21
CMF watch which is made
00:23
by the people who make the nothing phone
00:27
that comes in a bunch of colors very simple
00:29
beautiful elegant design round
00:33
aluminium body you know customizable
00:37
tracking your heart rate
00:39
certainly tracking your steps
00:41
I mean in general terms
00:47
ridiculously good value
00:49
I've got one actually
00:51
I do have one here I've got one with me
00:53
I love the look of it now they say
00:55
the things got a you know
00:57
two week or three month battery life or something
00:59
forget that that's rubbish
01:01
you know when you're using it like you're using
01:03
it you want heart rate you want tracking all that
01:05
stuff then it's definitely
01:09
so it's going to charge
01:15
the watch 3 pro if you could
01:17
because it does have a better battery life
01:21
it's a good looking device
01:23
like it's good so have a look at the nothing
01:27
excellent stuff really good
01:33
you're not going to probably get a Garmin
01:35
or a Sunto or any of those kind of things
01:37
but here's the other thing
01:39
I'd recommend you look at
01:45
like a ring for your finger
01:47
called the Aura A-U-R-A
01:51
I think they're about $120 right
01:55
seeing the Samsung one or something
02:07
it tracks your heart rate
02:11
tracks your blood oxygen level
02:13
like it does heaps and it's got a great app
02:15
you don't have to have a watch on your hand all the time
02:17
you charge it maybe once every
02:27
a normal analog watch or no watch at all
02:29
but the ring stays on all the time
02:31
you can get it in a bunch of different colours
02:33
titanium look, a steel look
02:39
honestly if you just want
02:41
kind of that fitness
02:43
you know tracking and data
02:47
yeah pretty much this one
02:49
that for you mate go get that
02:51
go get the Kogan Aura
02:53
yeah I'll have a look at it
02:57
no worries buddy anytime
03:01
see ya mate anytime
03:03
look the smart rings are great but they're very expensive
03:05
right but the Kogan one
03:09
so well worth a look
03:15
helping Australians with tech questions
03:19
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03:21
thanks once again for listening great
03:23
to have you company appreciate it
03:25
we'll be back here next week well will we
03:27
I mean producer Rob's on holidays
03:29
I don't know who approved that
03:31
I certainly bloody well didn't
03:33
he did that thing cheeky employees do
03:35
but he's not an employee I should be very clear
03:37
he's just doing his best
03:39
you know when you have you've ever been a manager
03:41
and have staff come and say
03:43
apply for leave and they've just booked my flights
03:45
I'm like you haven't approved the leave
03:47
this happened to me very early in my time
03:49
SPS I had a one of the admin
03:51
team talk about their holidays I'm like
03:53
have you applied for that because that's a busy week
03:55
for us and they're like no but it's booked I'm like
03:57
you can't you can't book before you've
03:59
applied for the leave that's insane
04:01
it's like this sense of entitlement
04:03
so yeah I take it personally Rob
04:07
cobble together a show I will
04:09
but we may need to wait for him to get back
04:11
we may may happen I don't know
04:13
it's busy week next week so we'll see what happens I've got a bit on
04:15
but we'll get through it rather than regardless
04:17
we'll be back soon we'll be
04:23
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04:25
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04:27
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04:29
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