Happy Hour: Ty Gibbs Wins, Tire Talk, Payback & Bristol to Nashville?
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Frontstretch Podcast NetworkApr 15, 2026
Happy Hour: Ty Gibbs Wins, Tire Talk, Payback & Bristol to Nashville?
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Term
tire talk
“Tire talk” means they’re talking about how the tires wear and how that changes grip during the race. When tires get worse, it can be harder to go fast or pass.
Topic
Bristol to Nashville
They’re talking about a race weekend that involves Bristol and Nashville. In NASCAR, that kind of “from one track to the next” storyline is common because teams and drivers keep moving to the next event.
Martinsville is a NASCAR track known for tight, physical racing. Because it’s hard to pass and drivers brake a lot, restarts and cautions can have a big impact.
In NASCAR, a “caution” is when something happened on the track and the race slows down for safety. Because everyone bunches up again, it can change who has the best chance to win on the next restart.
The “O’Reilly series” is the name of a NASCAR racing series sponsored by O’Reilly. When they mention a “champion” and a victory, they’re talking about winning within that NASCAR series.
Topic
Ty Gibbs wins / trash talk
They’re talking about Ty Gibbs winning and the arguing/roasting that happens around races. It’s part of the entertainment and rivalry in NASCAR.
When they say “Texas,” they mean the NASCAR track in Texas where races are held. Different tracks can change how hard it is to pass and how teams plan their tires and strategy.
A “fluke victory” means a win that might not reflect how strong the team really is. It could be caused by luck or the situation of the race rather than overall speed.
Some NASCAR races are split into sections called stages. Drivers earn points for how they finish in each stage, and those points add up over the season.
The Xfinity Series is NASCAR’s “second level” racing series. Drivers often prove themselves there before moving up and trying to win in the top Cup series.
They’re talking about how most drivers don’t win right away in NASCAR. Even if you’re good, it often takes many races to learn the cars, tracks, and strategy well enough to win.
Victory lane is where the winner goes right after the race. When someone says a driver will be in victory lane, they mean that driver is likely to win soon.
NASCAR doesn’t just crown the winner of one race. Drivers earn points based on their finishes, and the “points are looking” comment means Ty Gibbs is doing well enough to be in the fight for the championship.
They’re talking about a historical record of NASCAR wins. Their argument is that lots of drivers have one win, but far fewer drivers rack up multiple wins, which shows how hard it is to keep winning.
They’re talking about how staying mentally locked-in helps a driver perform better. In racing, distractions can lead to mistakes, so focus helps drivers make the right calls lap after lap.
“Block out distractions” refers to a driver’s ability to ignore off-track noise and stay focused on driving tasks. At elite levels, small lapses can cost track position, momentum, or even the race outcome.
“Turn the corner” usually means things start improving and you begin getting better results. In this context, it’s about Ty Gibbs finally figuring out what it takes to compete consistently.
The hosts reference a poll by Jeff Gluck and discuss the results as part of the debate around the race. This is a listener-facing discussion segment about fan sentiment and how it relates to on-track outcomes.
The hosts emphasize that the weather forecast heading into Sunday mattered for tire performance. In racing, temperature can change how tires grip and how quickly they degrade, so teams often plan around expected track conditions.
Goodyear makes the tires used in racing. The tires can either last long enough to keep the race going smoothly, or they can wear out or fail too often. Here, they’re talking about how tire performance changes the racing and what fans think looks fun.
A tire supplier provides the tires used by teams in a racing series, and that choice strongly influences tire wear, grip, and race strategy. The supplier’s goal is often to balance durability (finishing the race) with performance (enough grip for competitive racing). When tires fail or wear too quickly, it can disrupt racing and change how drivers can push.
Term
dog crap racing
That phrase is just the speaker’s way of saying the racing wasn’t good. They’re blaming tire problems—like tires failing or not working well enough—for making the race less fun to watch.
“Blowing tires out” means the tire fails during the race. When that happens a lot, it can slow the race down and ruin the flow. The speaker is saying that’s not a good outcome for the tire maker or the fans.
They’re describing a type of short-track racing where cars line up behind each other and drivers use small bumps to gain position. Bristol is a track where this kind of close racing is common. The speaker prefers that over what they think the current tire setup produces.
Term
PJ1
PJ1 is a brand of racing tire treatment/track conditioning product used to influence tire grip and wear characteristics. In NASCAR-style contexts, it’s often discussed in terms of how it changes traction and whether it leads to more or less side-by-side racing. The host implies PJ1 may be contributing to less desirable racing behavior.
“Side by side racing” refers to multiple cars running next to each other for position, which generally requires sufficient grip and tire consistency. The host notes fan sentiment—saying two-thirds of fans liked side-by-side racing—suggesting that tire/track setup choices can change the racing format. This is a key part of the debate about whether the tire supplier’s approach improves the show.
Tire wear is how fast your tires get “used up.” If tires wear out quickly, they lose grip and can become unsafe, especially during hard driving or racing.
Concept
tire performance vs. track conditions
Tire “going berserker” can be caused by more than the tire itself—track and weather conditions can drastically change tire temperature and grip. Cold weather can prevent tires from reaching their optimal operating range, leading to poor traction and faster degradation.
They’re saying the tires you run can make or break a race. If the tires work better in the weather, the car grips more, goes faster, and you’re less likely to lose time.
They’re talking about tires failing—like a blowout. The idea is that if tires can’t last, racing becomes chaotic and risky, so durability matters as much as speed.
“Tire elements” means how the tires act during the race—how well they grip and how that grip changes as the tires wear. They’re saying this race was good because the tires made a difference at the important moments.
A “spin” means the car rotated and lost control, usually causing it to slow down or stop on the track. When it happens in a race, it can cost the driver a lot of time and position. The podcast is likely pointing out that this happened to a Chevrolet during the event.
Tire fall-off means the tires lose grip as the race goes on. When that happens, the car feels slower or harder to drive, so teams have to decide when to pit.
“Next gen” means NASCAR’s newer race car rules and design. Bristol is a very specific short track, so the hosts are basically saying the newer car handled Bristol better than some other races.
A “tire debacle” is when tires cause a big mess in a race. That can mean the tires wear out too fast, don’t grip like expected, or even fail, which then affects strategy and safety.
A pit crew is the group that works on the car during pit stops. They’re responsible for changing tires quickly and correctly, and that can make a big difference in who wins.
“Gamesmanship” means playing the strategy game, not just driving fast. It’s about timing and decisions that can pressure other drivers, especially when tires are involved.
“Old tires” are tires that have been used for a while and don’t grip as well anymore. When tires get worn out, cars can slide or lose control, which can lead to crashes.
Tire grip changes with temperature. The hosts are saying teams and tire makers should look ahead at the weather forecast so the tires are better matched to the conditions on race day.
Topic
F1 tire issues at Indy
They’re comparing today’s tire talk to a past Formula 1 situation where tires caused big problems at Indy. The point is that tire issues can strongly affect how races play out.
Racers use different types of tires that feel and last differently. Softer tires usually grip more but wear out faster, while harder tires last longer but may be slower. Teams can plan to use more than one type to balance speed and tire life.
Tire strategy is basically deciding when to change tires and which ones to use. The team has to watch how the tires are wearing and make quick calls, sometimes changing the plan mid-race.
Option tires are a different type of tire you can run instead of the main choice. Because they grip and wear differently, teams have to adjust when they pit and how they drive.
They mean teams have to make decisions in real time while the race is happening. If the tires aren’t behaving the way they expected, the crew and driver change the plan as they go.
They’re talking about a type of stock-car racing (“super late model”) where tires matter a lot. They’re saying their past experience there makes them cautious about how multiple tire compounds are handled.
The “tire line” is where teams go to get their tires and swap them during a race. If the rules require specific tire batches, teams can argue if they think they got the wrong ones.
Tires are made in batches, and there’s a code that shows when they were produced. Some racers think newer or specific-batch tires work better, so they try to get the exact ones they want.
IndyCar often uses two tire types: one that lasts longer (hard) and one that grips more (soft). Teams decide which tire to use and when, depending on how long they need it to last and how much grip they need.
This is about how different the two tire types feel on track. Going from hard to soft can change grip a lot (and also how fast the tire wears), so teams try to understand whether the soft is worth it for the time they’ll run it.
The hosts debate whether the Nashville Fairgrounds could realistically host a NASCAR Cup Series race. They point to infrastructure limits—parking capacity, accessibility, and the surrounding local support system—as the main barriers, even if money is spent on the track itself.
Temporary seating means they add extra stands just for a big event. It’s a common workaround when a venue doesn’t have enough permanent seats for a larger crowd.
“ARCA guys” refers to competitors from ARCA, a stock-car racing series that often supports larger NASCAR events. ARCA races can be used to fill out a weekend schedule and attract additional teams and fans.
Cars Tour is a smaller racing series compared to NASCAR’s top divisions. They’re suggesting it as extra racing on the same weekend to keep fans engaged.
They’re debating whether to keep the spring race at Bristol or move it elsewhere. The key point is that Bristol draws huge crowds, so changing it could hurt attendance.
The Daytona 500 is NASCAR’s biggest race held at Daytona. It’s a huge deal because it’s a fast, high-energy race where cars have to be set up to run well in packs.
This is a reference to how track-specific combinations of car setup and tire choice can make a venue “click” for racing. On short tracks like Bristol, small changes in tire behavior and setup can dramatically affect grip, passing, and overall show quality.
The All-Star Race is a special NASCAR event that’s meant to be a fun, high-attention show. The hosts are proposing it as a way to make a schedule change feel more exciting.
The Clash is an early-season NASCAR exhibition race. The hosts are saying it could be a better fit than replacing Bristol with something less exciting.
A super speedway is a very large, high-speed NASCAR track. The hosts are suggesting stacking events so teams and fans get a run of big races in a short time.
Bowman Gray is a famous racing track. The hosts bring it up because some tracks are set up for certain kinds of races, and bigger events can create traffic and parking challenges.
North Wilkesboro Speedway is a NASCAR short-track venue known for its tight racing and strong fan base. The discussion uses it as an example of a track that can manage the demands of higher-level NASCAR events, even if logistics like parking and accommodations are different than bigger tracks.
Xfinity and the Trucks are NASCAR’s other major series below the Cup level. A double header is two races in one event weekend, and the idea here is to bring those series to more tracks first.
Ingress and egress are the planned routes and processes for getting people into and out of an event venue. For race weekends, this affects traffic congestion, parking efficiency, and overall safety.
This is a NASCAR race at Bristol that’s run at night under stadium lights. People consider it a big deal, and the hosts are debating whether changing the schedule would make it even more special.
They’re talking about how often Daytona shows up on the NASCAR calendar. In this discussion, Daytona is only getting one race that year, which changes how frequently fans get to see it.
They’re talking about a spring NASCAR event being run on dirt instead of the usual surface. The host feels that change made the race feel less special to them.
Topic
Kentucky again
They’re suggesting bringing back the Kentucky track for the schedule. It’s basically a “let’s go back there” idea.
Dover is a NASCAR venue known for its distinctive “Monster Mile” characteristics and high-speed, abrasive racing. The hosts mention it as another place to go back to, suggesting it’s a desirable option on the calendar.
In racing, “payback” means someone tries to get back at another driver for something that happened earlier. They’re arguing about whether it was on purpose and whether it happened late enough to change who won.
“Stayed green” means there wasn’t a caution flag, so the race kept running normally. That changes how easy it is to pass and how much time you have to build a gap.
Retaliation is when a driver tries to “get back at” someone because of something that happened before. In NASCAR, people argue whether a spin or hit was an accident or done on purpose.
A straightaway is the part of the track where the cars go mostly straight. It’s where you can really see who has speed and momentum without the complication of turning.
“Park him for the day” means the driver gets told to stop racing for the rest of that event. It’s a penalty that can happen if officials decide the incident was not acceptable.
When something happens late in a race, it matters more because there’s less time for things to play out naturally. That’s why the timing can influence whether it gets punished.
Sometimes NASCAR officials decide if a driver should be penalized or even suspended after a crash. Here, they’re saying the big question is whether it affected the top cars fighting for position.
A late race restart is when the race is paused for a caution and then restarted near the end. NASCAR does this so the finish can still be dramatic, and it can shuffle who wins.
Topic
Kyle Bush
They’re talking about Kyle Busch and whether NASCAR should penalize him for what happened. The conversation is about fairness compared to how other drivers were treated.
They’re bringing up a past NASCAR incident as an example. The idea is: if NASCAR fined someone before for a similar move, should they do the same again now?
A “hook” is when one car makes contact in a way that messes up the other car—like catching it or pushing it off its path. They’re saying this kind of contact happened at COTA and led to a fine.
The word “volts” here doesn’t sound like a normal car term. The hosts are basically saying the season is set up in a way that more drivers can stay in the championship race by getting good results.
In motorsports, consistency means repeatedly performing at a high level—staying near the front, avoiding big mistakes, and maintaining competitive pace across different tracks and conditions. The hosts frame it as the difference between a one-time winner and a true championship contender.
Dale Jr. is a famous NASCAR driver and TV personality. The host is mentioning that he used to race near the Masters location.
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Sure on my wall, it reminds me that I'm not so bad, I'm not that bad.
I show up to Bristol this past Sunday, I feel that it's my day, I'm leaving and even with
precautions late, I go to work again, and even with two champs hide on my tail, I win
it anyway, and then I tell you that I'm not so bad, I'm not so bad, and I just want
to thank you for giving me the best win of my life, and oh, your lawsuit comments fuel me
to the best day of my life.
There you have it, another banger from Pew Combs, and if you think, oh, that is not Brian,
no one, you are correct.
My name is Trey Lyle, the fill in host for this happy hour shindig here.
We also have another fill in, Chris Graham is filling in for Dalton Hopkins, but of
course, Pew Combs as well, fellas, I guess we got to get right to it.
I mean, I hope you're doing well, but there's a reason this man's here, and
unfortunately, this is the first time you've seen me since it's happened, because I wasn't
in the office on Monday, didn't see him today, because he was doing sales, Ed Lane at Fastlane
Ed Lane, the biggest Tigers fan that we know, Ed, I feel like we should just let you have
your moment, like just walk us through Sunday, the victory lap you've had since then, just
walk us through those subtle moments, and then are you going to name one of your
kids, change their name to Ty, like that's that's the second part of this.
You know, those are those are valid questions, Trey.
So Sunday, we were out, my dad, my kids and I fishing family time together.
And then we get back in the car and it's late race.
And of course, my phone's blowing up and I'm being a responsible dad trying to
break up fights, you know, make sure that our kids are on the right track, make
sure we're not acting like Ty Gibbs at the end of a race at Richmond or Martinsville
and getting into altercations, instigating fights.
And of course, my dad's trying to figure out why I'm so distracted from doing
my parental duty.
I have to confess it was because my attention was elsewhere.
Ty Gibbs after the irony of ironies with that caution where the former
driver of his car, different number, but still former driver Rex, the other, I
want to beep it out because they're not a sponsor of ours, but maybe it would go
well with Billy's tequila, Monster Energy, the other Monster Energy driver.
And I'm thinking this is what it's going to take.
And this is going to be the latest example of Ty Gibbs not getting a victory.
And alas, he showed the fortitude, the toughness, the championship medal
granted it's in the O'Reilly series, but the medal of a champion to get a victory.
And then I had to go on my unbearable tour with everybody at
French stretch.com.
And if Stephen Malassee, one of my favorite guests, the most humorous
of all time was on Twitter, I could have found his account.
He would have been added for the 500 times I seem to be tweeting stuff
Sunday evening and in the Monday morning in celebration.
And it's at driver Malas, by the way.
Don't tell him, Trey.
I was I wanted this for you to happen.
The way that's what we needed to bring on just to have those two just go at it.
Just just to see, yes, if you if you don't know, in case you missed it,
Stephen Malassee before the season came on for an issue at the R
basically just like said, Ty Gibbs is never going to win.
And so on and so forth.
It was it was a pretty great rant.
Someone who who may or may not as as knows Ed Lane, like I do,
he was ready to fire back.
Oh, I got my coach, I'm on.
I was keeping receipts as soon as I could cash those in.
It was happening.
Well, if it's anything like Coach Price track record, then it's
to downhill from here because he only had like one good season.
So maybe not say that I give.
But it does go out.
Excuse me.
The trash talk.
The trash talk started early in the weekend for Ed.
He was talking trash to me on Friday.
That's why I did that song just for you, Ed.
I knew when he started stringing the guitar and I didn't get any M&M,
Marshall Mathers, Slim Shady, whatever name you want.
I didn't even get the the joy of hearing his tones.
I just got the whiny dido part.
But whatever, if it motivated him to get the victory lane,
if that's what it takes, then is Ty Gibbs, life coach, self-proclaimed, of course,
then we will take the motivation where we can find it.
So to talk a serious part of Ty and Chris, I'll let you go first on this one.
You know, this is jokingly the culmination of Ed's fan
hood with Ty Gibbs and this moment coming together.
Brian Nolan was too scared to show up today.
What is exactly why is Nolan not there?
Well, OK, Bolton has an excuse
basically because of the US government.
We'll just put a phrase it that way.
He has a reason for the person.
Brian Nolan decided not Brian's scaredy cat.
Right. Brian said,
I got a long beach this week and I got all these yards to mow.
So I got started six thirty this morning.
Wow.
As of nine thirty this morning, he still wasn't mowing lawns.
So he could have knocked it out and got here, but he doesn't love it.
He doesn't love it. He's scared of you, Ed.
He's scared. He's not dedicated and he's scared of you.
But Chris, I will ask you this.
This is, by the way, this is the face of the producer for.
He's like my number two on the podcast manager.
Chris is my number two in the podcast department.
It's just us.
Basically, it just us two in terms of the technical side,
adding Kilbin there for a little bit.
But Chris, this is like a culmination of this season for Tiger.
It's getting this one at Bristol where arguably the closest chance
he had for a win came, which ironically would have been way better for it
because Michael Massey and I were at the track that day.
But we weren't.
We couldn't do it that week this weekend.
But it was the culmination of everything coming together
of this season, considering the game part thing and what he had to do at the end,
which I feel is starting to feel like every first win has to be like the hardest,
like on the hardest possible difficulty at the very end.
Like you like Harrison Burton had to pass Kyle Bush on the last lap.
You know, you look at Ty Gibbs having to pass both
hold off Ryan Blaney and Kyle Larson, who had probably the two best cars that day.
But what do you think, ultimately, of this performance from Ty Gibbs
and the performance all season?
Honestly, I'm going to say this as
not just a culmination of the season, but a culmination of
years of just crap
that he has had to put up with because he is a nepo baby.
And there is no other way to say it.
So the fact that he was able to turn around and take all of that
negativity over years and years of racing
and that became amplified in losing his father,
his mother being forced to take on a significantly larger role within the race team.
I don't know that it's quite the same level as Dale
Jr. having to step into senior shoes.
But I think there are some comparisons to be made there with the level
of commitment that should have been expected out of Ty Gibbs
when his dad passed and he didn't deliver.
And it took this lawsuit, kicking him in the, you know what,
to get him back on the right track.
And now I think we're it's now kind of a put up or shut up.
Anybody can win one.
When's number two?
Yeah, go ahead.
Our bestie, Texas, whoever.
Thanks. Your favorite track.
OK, more context.
And Ed Ed's, Ed's least favorite track is Texas.
Much Speedway by far, by far.
It is. It is a culmination, though.
I like the way you phrased it, Chris, unlike all these negative
Nancy's out there that are sitting there not believing that there's legitimacy
to any of this.
You know, it's funny because the Dale Earnhardt Jr. fans will bristle at it.
I don't think Dale Jr. was nearly as vilified as Ty Gibbs.
Granted, he didn't do a lot of immature things to inflict that upon himself.
So, you know, let's let's gloss over some minor details.
But the pressure has clearly been there for him for a while.
But I don't put this in the Derek Cope day two and a five hundred
category of fluke victories or even some of the others.
I saw again, there's a lot of great work at front stretch dot com.
But somebody made the comparison to Austin Dillon.
The difference is Austin Dillon did not have a run of what
six straight top sixes leading up to this race.
And I don't know if he's ever had that type of run, whereas Ty Gibbs
has had that type of run this year.
He's focused on all different types of tracks this year.
They look like this is a fluke.
I mean, that he's going to win the championship, although a 40 to one
ticket now might be in my possession for him to win the championship.
But it means there's a potential there because it looks like this is more
consistent than just a flash in the pan.
Yeah, he's fourth in points.
You mentioned that, Ed, he has 49 stage points, which shows
he's been at least competing up front all all season long.
I do think part of this is like one, I think people, you know,
kind of undervalued the loss of Koi in his life.
And, you know, that that influence who's always being there.
And then he had to get thrust like into the cut his full time cup
season and who was he replacing?
Oh, just, you know, one of the probably 10 greatest drivers of all time
and one of the greatest pairings in the history of the sport.
Kyle Bush and Joe Gibbs racing and Kyle Bush was with JGR.
And obviously he wasn't in the 18.
It wasn't the M&M's car.
It wasn't like the same thing that changed the number and everything.
But you're replacing Kyle Bush, man, like it's that that's for any driver.
That's a tough fail to climb, let alone be a rookie and have all this
outside pressure of having, you know, the last name light gives,
which is just a, you know, big name in sports, let alone a big name in
NASCAR. It felt like you could sense the relief for him when he got through.
And it does feel like for him.
And maybe he won ironically, wait, like the downside of winning
way so early, like he did the XFINITY series, which were what?
His second race ever?
People thought, oh, he's just going to go to first race.
You're right.
Everyone thought he was going to win this quickly in cup.
But typically we've seen like Chase Elliott, William Byron,
like Ryan Blaney, it takes that hundred race mark for whatever
reason to get your first win.
And then you, you break out a couple.
I, I, I, I don't think this is the last time to Chris's point, like wins the second.
I feel pretty confident saying tie gives is going to be a victory lane
pretty soon. I wouldn't even be shocked this week in a Kansas.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
He's going to rattle off wins now.
It's like we talked about here on the show a couple of weeks ago,
tie Gibbs is running like the second best Gibbs car right now.
Denny Hamlin, I think is the best and, but Bell and Chase Briscoe,
you have not seen up there fighting for wins like you have the other two.
And tie is kind of making himself the number two guy there now.
And I will say it was really cool on Sunday
to see his whole family there with all they've been through.
The Joe Gibbs, the loss of both sons.
Heather Gibbs, the loss of her husband, tie loss of his father.
To see all them really just it looked like an emotional scene,
especially Heather was crying and it was cool to see her ride in the car.
Joe was was given a sermon there on pit road.
So I couldn't help but be happy for the Gibbs family in that moment
with all that they've been through.
But yeah, Colperne Colperne.
Yeah, that was a little bit of a tease there, but it did not realize
he was back in the picture.
But yeah, tie is going to win more races.
I mean, the way the points are looking,
he's going to be a championship contender this year if he keeps this run going.
Was it see you came on your your podcast last year
and said that once tie Gibbs gets the first victory,
it's going to start to be a bunch of them that get rattled off.
And all of a sudden it will show that he's clicking.
Who said it?
I think it was C.
Is that who you all had on last year?
It was about a year ago last summer.
Ryan Seager, Kyle Seager, I think.
Oh, no, I don't remember.
Oh, I got it.
We'd say that last time gives I last time I saw Ryan Seager
and Ty Gibbs get involved in a racetrack.
It resulted in Ryan Seager wrecking himself.
I don't know if that I would be the two.
But it's always there's something to be said, though,
that the adage is the first win.
You get your first the next common bunches.
That's not the case anymore in the cup series.
That might be in the lower series, so tight, but it's not in cup.
Yeah, I think you look at the driver.
I just can say you look at the all time wins list
and like there's a lot of guys that have one win.
A lot of guys have one with that list
shrinks significantly when you get to two.
But that being said, I think three.
Yeah, even way more when you get to three.
But Ty, Ty is going to win again.
He's running too well to to not win again.
That. But does he need to win more?
You know, one win in four years.
I still think he needs to step it up and win some more
to justify it. But I think he's capable of doing it.
Well, I don't think that go ahead.
And any final thoughts?
Sorry, I was going to say any final thoughts
on this Ty Gibbs moment, the floor is yours.
I don't think there's a surprise.
The talent's been there for a while.
You knew they would give him everything that he needed
to try to get to victory lane.
I would say the one thing that, you know, we've joked about this,
but the lawsuit in exposing things,
whether he denies them or not, it seems like it forced
a level of focus that is been there and necessary
because most of the best drivers in cup
have a level of focus and the ability to block out distractions.
And we had not seen that from Ty Gibbs.
And it looks like now he's starting to figure out
that that's one of the big things you have to have to turn the corner
at such a high level where let's face it.
I mean, there's a good 15 to 20 drivers that are elite enough
that are close enough and talent skill level that those little things
actually do make a difference.
Whereas in the XFINITY series, the gap from even one to ten
is pretty pronounced.
Speaking of pronouncements, some fans were talking about going back
to a brace at Bristol that was a lot of fun.
Michael Massey and I were there for one instance of this Massey.
The race this weekend had some mixed reviews to say the least
as I pull up the Jeff Gluck poll.
What are your thoughts on this kind of tired debate
when it comes to by the way, 67 percent said, yes,
I just want to throw that in there for the good race bull.
But your thoughts on the tire this week in a Bristol.
I should have prepared better, but I have a stack of bricks outside.
I should have gone out and grabbed four of them and held them up right here
because that's what Goodyear brought this week was for bricks
to put on the car that didn't wear at all.
So it's just it's crazy to me that
you think like people love those two races with the high tire wear.
I get it. It was it was a little too excessive.
So they had to counter that.
But when you saw the forecast coming into today and into Sunday,
you saw it was going to be warm and you know these tires don't wear
when it's warm, you should have brought a like it should have been two sets
of tire. I don't know if that's possible, but two different types
of tires there for depending on the weather.
Still, it wasn't a terrible race.
I didn't think maybe you guys disagree with me,
but what what do you guys think about what Goodyear brought?
How it impacted the day and whatnot.
And we could start with you, unless Chris, you got something fire.
Well, I have something kind of queued up here
because my thought process on this is Goodyear is in a really bad spot.
Every tire supplier to a racing series is
because the ultimate thing you can bring to a racetrack
as a tire supplier is a tire that lasts the entire race.
We make the most durable tires on the market.
And that's what you buy when you buy Goodyear's.
Except it makes for dog crap racing.
So you have to find that alternate middle ground of performance,
durability and all those things that Goodyear's trying to sell.
If they're blowing tires out every 13 laps, hello, Indianapolis,
we see you there.
I don't see how that's a win for Goodyear.
So I think they're kind of right where they need to be,
as much as it sucks as a fan, because I don't want the PJ1 on the racetrack.
I want them to be single file around Bristol, bump and run,
move them out of the way and let's have fun with the old Bristol.
But I'm I'm encouraged to hear that two thirds of the fan like
that side by side racing, because we railed on that for how many years.
You can go ahead and.
Just two thirds thought it was a good race.
Ty Gibbs one should be 99 percent.
What are we talking about here?
This is preposterous.
Jokes on that aside, though, you know, I would brush back to an extent
because we don't need tires blowing every 13 laps like a decade
and change ago at Indianapolis, but there's got to be some level of tire
wear and I understand the whole Goodyear perception thing.
But I mean, look, are people smart enough to realize that the cars
the tires you buy to put on your car are going to last longer than,
you know, 13 laps or even 500 laps or 500 miles?
I mean, if I'm paying what I pay for tires, you know, two to three bills for them,
then I'm smart enough to realize they should last that long.
I have an ability to differentiate between the tires I watch at the race track
reflecting on the tires that I put on my car.
And I want the tires at the racetrack to deliver a good quality product.
And I want to hold it against the manufacturer and their ability
to have tires that fit my car because they're two entirely different things.
Yeah, I think you also have to factor in like what actually caused the tires
to go berserker is not the tire.
It was the weather where it was unusually cold,
which shocker that happens in Virginia as three of the four people in this
is from the state of Virginia.
Well, that's technically Tennessee, my bad, or but close enough.
So like the weather is hard, good tray.
Yeah, I know.
Well, technically, I mean, I'm not the worst.
I'm not mine. I'm not going to say that part.
I'm not getting in trouble.
Anyways, Tennessee is close enough, but there is a Bristol, Virginia.
Anyways, my point being you weren't going to get that with the weather conditions.
So I think it provided good enough tires did matter.
Like it like if you look at the tires,
Ryan Blaney and Kyle Larson on better tires got quickly to tie Gibbs.
And I think if Blaney doesn't make the mistake, leading the race like he did,
which lost just enough ground to tie Gibbs, where he needed
probably two more laps to pass him like it tires did matter in this race.
Not to maybe maybe need to go to like
a little bit more, like a little bit more.
But ultimately, I'd rather have this style racing
than every 40 laps you're blowing a tire.
And that's what we had.
Like people forget Goodyear was doing a press conference mid race.
That race that everyone wants to brag about because they thought this was an issue.
Like Massey and I were there.
Alex, again, someone's got in a fight with a Goodyear tech
because they thought it was a problem.
They didn't think this was good.
And luckily, the teams figured it out and you had three three most experienced drivers.
I think the top three was Hamlin, Truex and Kizlowski.
Ultimately, so while the chaos and everything is great.
I think this race was better because it was more natural in the racing
and it still had the tire elements that you want where it mattered.
Maybe needs to matter a little bit more.
But ultimately, let's be real here.
We're going to talk about it at the very end.
Like the late race caution doesn't happen.
I think Ryan Blaney gets gets the tie gives.
But I would I think ultimately, well,
tie gives did a really good job of keeping them off.
I think he did and to his credit and he was also up front all day.
Ryan Blaney did run out of the laps.
If there was like five laps left,
tire Ryan Blaney on the better tires would have passed him.
So the tires did matter in this race.
It's just sometimes cautions fall in specific spots.
You make one mistake like Ryan Blaney did it cost him the race.
We saw Shane Van Gisburg and spin.
We saw Christopher Bell have issues.
We saw guys have issues that I would say are
classically old tire type issues.
And that's kind of what you're asking for when you're looking.
What do we want good year to bring?
A tire that's going to fall off enough that you have to change them
frequently, but not so much that you're blowing them up and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like it was it was a good race.
I agree with that comment that says I can go that it was the best next.
Outside of the two tire debacle races, it was the best next gen Bristol race.
But if Ryan Blaney's pit crew.
Was it the four of us changing his tires?
Then he would have stopped the field.
He would have probably led like all 500 laps if he started in the pole
and had a competent pit.
He's terrible, but it had a competent pit crew.
Yeah, a competent pit crew.
Yeah. So I don't know.
I think we would have been looking at this thing very badly if
because people looked at it badly when Kyle Larson went and stopped
the field at Bristol and this race could have been that way.
I don't know.
I get like I see what you guys are saying.
The tires.
There definitely was a little bit of gamesmanship to it.
And there were accidents caused by old tires, like you said.
But I would say I'd like to see more aggressiveness from Goodyear.
That's that's all I want.
It's just a little more especially like if you can look out
days ahead and see the forecast and see this could be warmer.
Let's bring a little.
Yeah, but you're talking about tires that have to be made months and months
in advance like it's they tried this when F1 had the the tire issues at Indy.
And it was one of those deals where like, hey, we can bring new tires in
sort of like it's not a quick change thing.
Now, to your point of maybe multiple compounds might be an answer.
I think that if you gave the teams a hard and a soft
now we're really playing with fire and the crew chiefs are really neck deep
in making those calls.
I love that point, Chris, because you're putting it back into the crew chiefs.
You have variants.
You're automatically introducing different strategies.
And the teams may waffle or flip back and forth from one tire to the next
determining that one works well or making adjustments.
But that level of a chess match that's going on during the race.
Sometimes you can see it play out, but it's also the type of storyline
that makes it intriguing to follow, whether you're watching on TV
or listening on the radio slash streaming platform.
But you just you just don't have a fight going on the background.
Are they in the background?
But, you know, if we had two different tire options,
Ryan Blaney's pit crew would put like three softs and one hard on his car
or something like that.
And Austin Dylan would wreck wreck Joey Logano and him one for the win.
But that was the thing when we had that another race.
Michael Massey and I were at.
Sorry, sorry.
Chaos always happens.
Chaos happens when we're there, except for this past Martinsville.
Yes, I don't get it.
Well, Phoenix and Richmond, when they tried that out, it was one race.
I don't even remember what happened to that race.
We're missing a shift.
We're just a big one.
Yeah, poorly.
Anyways, sorry.
I just interrupted that.
You should punch me.
I know it's Trace favorite pastime.
But we so we had the option tires for Phoenix and Richmond.
And I thought it was kind of fun and thought maybe we should try it.
You know, maybe like one race a year, we should do something like that.
But I don't think that's that's not the case anymore.
So I don't know.
Should we try that again?
Guys, you guys sound like you're positive on the option tire.
So I mean, I love it.
Even whether it's whether permitting or not, I just it adds
a level of variance and you have a level of variance.
You put more of an onus on the crew chiefs and the crews.
And there's still a level of adjusting and adapting on the fly,
which is going to make for an interesting level of strategy.
And I don't think it was a terrible race.
They were side by side racing, but you can find ways to tweak.
If it's an elite race, then yeah, don't tweak it and make it better.
But it was kind of a C plus ish B minus race from entertainment standpoint.
And that in that situation, be tweaking, you try to get this thing better and better.
I will say I am all for the multiple compounds thing.
My only concern is from my background in the super late model world
where you have the same compound of tire.
It should be in theory, identical tires and teams are throwing fits
and getting into fights at the tire line because they want a certain date
code on the tire tires made on this date.
We're good. The ones made the next day were junk.
I don't think Goodyear wants to get in the middle of that.
And I think that's part of the reason we don't see the two compounds.
But it also doesn't have to be a big swing.
Indy car runs a hard and a soft.
But there is a gradient there of what that swing is,
whether it's a big swing from hard to soft or maybe it's a little bit
narrower of one where the hard tire is actually the better tire to have
even on a shorter stint.
Speaking of super late model races, Chris, I just loved you teed up
that perfect transition for me. There was some cars.
You like that?
Um, shout out to her cousins.
Maybe he's an Ascar fan. Maybe he's a front stretch fan.
Who knows? But there was a big car store event
at the Nashville Fairgrounds this week, including Dale Earnhardt,
Jr. was involved. Chris, it's at least a conversation after
maybe not the most exciting attendance and TV numbers
that maybe are not what you want.
Could there be changes to the spring Bristol race?
I am going to say I love the Nashville Fairgrounds.
It is one of the two or three favorite places
I have ever had the pleasure and honor of producing a race at.
And I use those two words meaningfully.
Nashville Fairgrounds is incredible.
It is not ready to host a cup race, and you can dump
twenty million dollars into that place and the track itself might get ready.
But that local infrastructure will not ever be ready.
I don't know how long it's been since you guys have been to the fairgrounds.
It's on a side road of a side road.
You run up the hill, you get to the soccer stadium,
but there is not parking for forty or fifty thousand people
like you're going to need to bring to a cup race.
Look at what they did to Wolf's Bar.
They put in a ton of temporary seating
when they first took the All-Star race there.
They're considering making some of those permanent seats,
but you don't have the parking for it.
You don't have the accessibility.
All the things that go into hosting a NASCAR cup series race
just aren't there.
And it kills me that I'm disagreeing with Dale Jr.
and the guys for the SMI and everything else.
I think it is perfect to host an O'Reilly truck doubleheader.
I think it's perfect to throw the Arca guys in there.
I'll even throw a Cars Tour race on the same weekend.
We're going to double dip.
We're going to run Cars Tour Thursday,
Arca and Trucks Friday or Arca Friday and Double Dip Saturday
and really make it a weekend.
But running the cup series there, I think is is really a dangerous proposal
because just the infrastructure isn't there to accommodate that.
I don't know what your guys' thoughts are.
And I'm I'm the maybe the antithesis or the devil's advocate on this one.
But there's a whole lot of people that are going to tell me
I'm an idiot in the comments. That's for sure.
Well, we're all idiots.
So let's just get that out of the way right now.
I think, look, I agree with you and I disagree with you at the same time.
I think that having that race, having that track fairgrounds
replace Bristol as the spring date is a bad decision.
Because first off, let me let me pump the brakes on taking a race from Bristol
because it still had like 70,000 people there,
which would sell out a majority of the tracks on the NASCAR schedule.
But it's just because they have over 100,000 seats that it looks so empty.
Like, you know, you're not getting outside of the Daytona 500
in the Indy 500.
You're not getting 100,000 fans at any race these days
in America, at least.
I guess the F1 races as well.
But before somebody comes in and corrects me on that.
But so I think expecting a sell out there is unrealistic.
The night race does better attendance, but it's the bigger date.
So it should have a bigger crowd.
And also Jeff Gluck pointed out that at one point in his poll,
Bristol had the top three races.
Next gen has kind of ruined that.
But eventually we will get to a point where Bristol is great again.
Remember, there's a car, tire, whatever that matches up
because it is an awesome track.
And Bristol, it's one of the few tracks I feel like still deserves two dates.
So pump the brakes on fairgrounds replacing Bristol.
I think that, you know, the fairgrounds, if something were to happen there,
couplies, it would need to be the clash or the All-Star Race or something,
which that could be a fun set up.
Do like the All-Star Race and then the next week have like a national speed
weeks, have the super speedway the following week and maybe have like
O'Reilly and trucks run both of them.
You know, save those guys some travel and whatnot.
But so I think it could handle like a non points cup race.
Since we see Bowman Gray and we've seen so far, North Wilkesboro be able to handle that.
I agree, Chris, like
Nashville doesn't have the accommodations, the parking accommodations
that those places have, but we could at least try it.
I mean, heck, Kentucky got to try
a cup date and had an awful traffic situation.
Why not let on the fairground?
The national super speedway, the first cup race there was awful traffic
because you had one guy stopping everybody, checking to see if they had this pass or whatever.
So, you know, we're kind of used to that kind of area of the country.
We're going to have some parking situations.
But I'm down to try it for like an exhibition race.
But I don't think it should be a points race just yet.
Ed Tray, what are what are you guys thinking of this?
Go ahead, Ed.
I would love to see it
it for tracks that don't have the infrastructure for a cup date.
What's wrong with putting more of those
in Xfinity and truck double headers?
You know, you were at Rockingham, Massey, I've been there before.
That that's another example of it's great
for the Xfinity and the truck series.
And they're well supported.
They're well attended relative to those series.
You could start adding other tracks where you could either have it
accompanying a cup date where it's a cup date and then nearby.
You've got the Xfinity and truck.
So if truck driver cup drivers want to double dip, they have easy accessibility.
I mean, let's keep it real.
These guys are on private jets and helicopters, not dealing with regular
traffic and airport issues like the 99 percent of us are.
So they've got the access to that, but you're also cultivating
something unique and special about those other series.
Because I mean, infrastructure wise, you see a place I went to school in
Memphis and so been through Nashville, been by the fairgrounds,
been two races at Nashville Super Speedway.
And there's got to be a level for ingress and egress to accommodate
just a volume of fans that are going to come in, park, bring in
all the other people that are around there.
And if you're not equipped to handle that, it creates not just a
chaotic traffic situation, but frankly reflects poorly on the sport.
And it goes against the intended wish, which is trying to get the sport
exposed to more people in a positive light.
If they're only experiences, it clogs up the streets.
They don't plan for this very well.
They're you're going to have a tougher time selling them on this
being an organized unit that's worth your time and investment in an entertainment dollar.
Yeah, there's a whole political governmental aspect to how if
Nashville is going to survive as a racetrack, which we don't need to get into.
I am open to the idea of Bristol going down to one race
because it could make the Bristol Night Race, which is already a special
race, even more of a special race.
I'm always open to the idea of like every track, but Daytona gets one race a year.
I'm very open to that idea.
I don't know.
Nashville Fairgrounds is the choice, however, to replace it.
I just I truly don't because of what Chris said.
And I've never been there.
I have seen a couple of like I've seen clips from there.
I've never actually even truly watched a race from the Nashville fairgrounds
because I don't have so good.
You know, so good.
So I've never actually seen.
So I'm I'm like probably least qualified to talk about it here out of us for.
But I am open to the idea just because.
Yes, the TV viewership is down and clearly,
like I think the fact they were willing to throw
make a dirt race for the spring race, just like devalued it for me enough
where I'd rather see insert another SMI track during this week and
go to Kentucky again.
Maybe that will look cool in the mile and a half.
Go to what was that for a boy's race over.
Yeah, go back to Dover.
That was another place like, you know, Dover is getting kind of
even worse treatment than Bristol.
Like, honestly, I would I'd be OK.
We swatch it, making Bristol the all star race.
Like it was a good all star race and making Dover the points race.
And because I thought we had a really good all star race when it was at Bristol
and they got creative with it.
And I think Bristol's kind of an ideal track for an all star race.
So I would be open to that as well.
But to our final topic, we had some hostility.
You know, we, you know, the last great Coliseum,
we did have some hostility.
Kyle Bush got some revenge on on Riley Herp's late in this race,
causing Ed Lane to have an ulcer as his nerves skyrocketed through the roof.
Michael Massey, I will ask you this question.
Obviously, Kyle Bush is at a very frustrating season.
But in the instant with Herps, whether you could say it was intentional
or unintentional by Herps, Kyle Bush clearly was intentional.
Did you like the timing of the payback?
Considering it was not like he paid him back instantly.
It was and, you know, obviously it takes time to get back to a point
where you could pay him back, but it was also so very late in the race
that it truly could have affected it kind of affected the outcome
because it felt like if it stayed green, if I'm not mistaken,
Ryan Blaney gets past Ty Gibbs, whereas Ty Gibbs kind of because he was
on the outside is able to kind of create enough distance where he won the race.
Yeah, there's there's the the people that think that Kyle
obviously it was retaliation.
I I don't care what he says or anything.
It looked pretty intentional to me.
It was the front stretch or the straightaway.
It wasn't in the corner. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
He accomplished this despite how bad his years been.
He hasn't lost the ability to go straight on a straightaway.
It just be right.
But I think there's there's a section of people that think that
he did that to also screw Ty Gibbs.
And I think I agree with you.
I think it actually helped Ty Gibbs more.
But Kyle Bush doesn't.
He's not paying attention to who's leading the race in that situation.
All he saw he's having a bad day.
The guy that sent him spinning earlier.
He's finally caught back up to him.
And I think that's all it was.
Is that was probably the first time that him and herpes
were on the same straightaway since that incident earlier.
And when you see him, you just go bam.
Now, the timing did also work out in that it was so late in the race
that NASCAR didn't really have time to look at it and say,
oh, maybe we ought to park him for the day or, you know,
parking for a five laps or whatever.
Because they're more worried about over time.
Like getting to getting the race back going
so we don't waste too many laps, the race for the win.
But I don't know if we haven't seen any penalty to Kyle so far.
So it seems like it was the perfect revenge.
And that's I think that's all there is to it.
And what do you think about that whole deal?
Did you get to see Kyle send Riley spinning?
If if Ty Gibbs doesn't win the race,
then it should probably be like a three week, three race suspension.
But because of Ty Gibbs masterful driving capabilities and skills
to hold off Ryan Blaney, who just to set the record straight,
Ryan Blaney would have led 498 laps, not 500 massy
because Ty Gibbs masterful driving would have still been enough
to get him the victory at the end, showing just how great he is as a talent.
No, you know, look, I like the idea of revenge.
I think there's a level of calculated timing on this that
is that what you wanted?
Was that the same? I was going to stop Ed from talking.
No, that was the signal I had.
I was going to say this is the signal of Ed trying to like
slime his way into or circle his way into making it about Ty Gibbs.
Like, for example, if I brought up, you know, I had to interview for
Andrew Clark who wrote this book right here, the Immortals of NASCAR.
He'd be like, man, Ty Gibbs should be on the cover of that at this point,
not Richard Petty, because if Ty Gibbs had to face Richard Petty
in their primes, they would beat him.
Oh, my.
Anyway, good job.
I like the timing to get rid of the Ty Gibbs commentary for just a second.
The timing of it was actually pretty calculated for Kyle Bush.
And the sense like you said, of what are you going to do this late in the race?
And is it a type of incident that's worth suspending anybody for or is it not?
Now, I didn't collect anybody.
I think that's probably the most important thing.
Anybody of race contention consequences was not involved in it.
And it created a finish.
And if anything NASCAR historically is kind of aired on the side
of wanting to embrace late race restarts.
Yeah, Chris, it wasn't too, it wasn't too different real quick.
It wasn't too different from what Dale Earnhardt,
who you got on your shirt there, did the Terry Labani twice.
The man.
I will throw my two sense sense in on this.
I think the only thing that Riley Herps needs to learn is the timing.
Because ultimately what he did, you could do at almost any racetrack
at almost any time, at least in terms of short tracks.
In the moment, he didn't need to dump Kyle Bush there.
Keep it in your back pocket and just say, hey, I got one.
And KV knows he's got one coming.
So you don't have to exact the revenge right then and there.
If anything, that makes you look a little bit more
petulant to me, and that's a word I've used to describe Kyle Bush a lot.
I kind of think that just just sit on it.
Just know, man, hey, I got you.
You're getting one.
Eventually, someday, somewhere, somehow you're going to get it.
Any final thoughts on this, Massey?
No, the thing is, I think should Kyle have some kind
of penalty or whatnot, I kind of go both ways for the for consistency.
Last year, we saw Austin Cedric do kind of a similar move.
It was more gracious, but it was a hook on Ty Dillon at Coda
and he got a 50 point fine.
I wonder if Kyle should get some kind of fine or something for this.
But there's part of me that wasn't consistency.
There's one part of me that wasn't to be like boys have at it
somewhere in the middle. There's the right answer.
So I don't know.
I'll leave it at NASCAR's hands.
I guess if they want to penalize them or not.
But if somebody else does something similar this week
and they don't penalize Kyle, they bear that person
better not get penalized either. That's all I'm going to say.
Well, a man who we're never tired of, maybe his talks about his love
for Ty Gibbs, we get tired of, but we actually never get tired of him.
At Fastlane, Ed Lane, Ed, any, if you are a fan of Ed's work,
check out the Fastlane with Ed Lane on the VTR in Sports Facebook page.
You check out the Fastlane with Ed Lane on YouTube.
His Twitter is at Fastlane, Ed Lane.
There's also a great show on that radio station in the morning
called the Morning World with Tray Lyon should also.
We'll cut his mic now, too.
But Ed, any, any final thoughts?
Anything else I missed that you want to plug before you go out of here?
The Ty Gibbs commentary aside, I just think it's exciting because of volts.
It adds more drivers to the list of drivers that can position themselves
to make runs over the course of the season.
Nobody doubts Ty Gibbs, teammates Denny Hamlin
and Christopher Bell, based on history.
I think all of us expected at some point things will start clicking
for Hendrick outside of Kyle Larson with Byron shown enough.
Chase Elliott has, I think Alex Bowman is probably in a tough spot to get victories.
And certainly 2311 is Volta themselves into contention,
particularly Tyler Ruddick, but even Bubba Wallace to an extent.
There are more drivers now than there seem to have been in prior iterations,
at least last year that you would say could contend for a championship.
In this format.
Well, Ed, we appreciate your time.
And you can hang out with us, too.
Yeah, you want to pour one out with us.
If you want to, this is when they can always pour one out.
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And I'll let you go second to last on this.
So, Massey, you have yours.
You can go first. Who are you pouring one out for?
I if Chris has one locked and loaded, I think he does.
All right, he can go before me.
But so I'm still OK.
Well, clearly, someone's not going to be here.
I will go here.
I'm going to pour one out.
It's it's it was master's weekend.
I'm wearing my azaleas.
I have a cocktail cup.
Golf looks like a golf ball full of vodka and various fun things
because I don't have any Billy's tequila yet.
Thanks, Trey.
Um, I don't hear what out for the camera man,
the photographer hired by Joe Gibbs racing
to follow Chris Gabbard around all weekend.
While Ken Griffey, Jr.
was photographing the master's for the second year in a row,
you had to follow the CRO of a NASCAR team around
so you could see where he had dinner.
You could see what he threw out.
You could take pictures of everything that might look remotely
like something a judge might want to look at your weekend sucked.
So I'm going to pour one out for you.
Enjoy one today.
Massey, are you ready, Ed?
Are you a master?
You're not.
Ed can go.
I mean, we went out for Stephen Malazi.
Is that what you're about to do?
Exactly.
I pour one out for Stephen Malazi.
I pour one out for all those haters out there
that said this day would never come.
Now you have to deal with somebody who's happier
than the bartender in the Billy's tequila ad
and the people checking into the My Place hotels
because Ty Gibbs finally got a victory.
Now I will say this.
The question is, does he have the maturity
to handle this level of success and back it up?
That's the next step in the question,
because if he can do that and go on this type of run
that he's capable of, then at that point
he can vault himself from just a good one-time race winner
into somebody who backs up the consistency he showed
before this race with the ability
to now be a contender well after.
I just had the worst drop the mic moment.
Try to drop the mic with my water bottle
and it hit my microphone.
So I'm sorry about that, folks.
Massey, you're up because I have a perfect one to end on.
OK, I'm going to pour one out for Frankie Munez
because Malcolm in the middle is back.
And I love that show.
And when I was a kid, I used to watch it just about every Sunday.
And it's cool to see that they thought
so much of this Craftsman Truck Series driver
that they were like, hey, let's give this guy a TV show.
So it's cool to see that the truck looked awesome.
It's a shame that it got torn up.
There was a little feud there in that whole deal.
There's a whole video of it.
You should watch Frankie's Care Center interview
on the Frontstretch YouTube page.
But thank you for helping me relive my childhood
a little bit with new Malcolm episodes.
Frankie, this is for you.
Mine goes to the boss, Tom Boles,
because of course, every time I watch the Masters,
I remember of the epic collapse by Tom Boles
in the first division of Frontstretch Jeopardy,
where he thought the Masters took place
in Merrill Beach, South Carolina,
even though I clearly framed the question as Augusta, Georgia.
So to Tom Boles for not knowing where the Masters is. Cheers.
It's so cool that Dale Jr.
used to race right down the road from the Masters.
I know, right?
Mike, Mike, Jeff lives where the Masters happens every year.
He's got a house on the property.
National, I think Mike, Jeff.
Exactly. Well, that will do it for us.
I'm back tomorrow.
Well, this comes out Tuesday.
So Wednesday night will be bringing the heat with Trey Lyle.
Massey and I have an interview with Taylor Gray.
He talks about how Ty Gibbs is technically his owner.
So Ty Gibbs gets mentioned there just for for Ed Lane.
Chris will help me with that.
He might you might overhear his voice here and there.
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, he will.
Hopefully, Brian Nolan and Dalton Hopkins, we'll be back next week.
Do you have Massey, a guest lined up yet?
Thumbs up, thumbs down. No.
No, not yet.
Well, we'll work on it. We'll figure something out.
We're working on a guest.
Ed will have his show 5 to 6 p.m.
If you're not in Lynchburg, Virginia, just download the VTR and Sports app
or the Fast Lane with Ed Lane Facebook page or their YouTube page.
You can live stream it right there or the Fast Lane with Ed Lane, wherever you podcast.
So for Ed Lane, for Chris Graham, for Michael Massey,
I'm Trey Lyle signing off for now for this edition of happy hour.
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About this episode
Ty Gibbs’ Bristol win takes center stage as the hosts celebrate the emotional, family-filled victory and debate what it means for his future—especially after years of skepticism, pressure, and the fallout from a lawsuit. The conversation also dives into tire talk at Bristol, arguing whether Goodyear’s tire choices improved racing or just created gamesmanship, with weather blamed for much of the chaos. They then tackle the idea of replacing Bristol’s spring date with the Nashville Fairgrounds, and end with a payback discussion around Kyle Busch’s late incident with Riley Herps.
