The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a smaller truck that’s good for carrying things and also comfortable for driving around town. It’s new and has a cool design, making it a fun choice for people who want both a truck and an SUV. It’s great for those who need a vehicle that can do a bit of everything.
Alignment is about making sure the wheels of a car are pointing in the right direction. If they aren't, it can cause problems like uneven tire wear and difficulty steering.
The KO2 is a type of tire made by BFGoodrich that is designed for driving on rough surfaces, like dirt and mud. It's known for being very tough and reliable.
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people love for its speed and unique shape. It's known for being fun to drive and has been around for a long time.
The Lexus LC is a fancy two-door car made by Lexus, which is a luxury brand from Toyota. It's known for being stylish and having a lot of cool features.
Torque is how much twisting force you use to tighten something. In cars, it's important to make sure parts like wheel nuts are tight enough to keep the wheels on safely.
The Chrysler Town & Country is a family minivan that can carry a lot of people and stuff, making it great for road trips. It has nice features to keep everyone comfortable, but some people have had issues with how well it works over time. It’s a popular choice for families who need space.
The Chrysler Town and Country is a type of minivan that is great for families. It has a lot of space inside and is designed to be comfortable for passengers.
The Porsche 944 is a type of sports car made by the German company Porsche. It was popular in the 1980s and 1990s for its good handling and performance.
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Myers Manx
The Myers Manx is a type of dune buggy known for its lightweight fiberglass body and fun driving experience. The version discussed was made in 2008, which is a more recent model of this classic vehicle.
BFGoodrich is a brand that makes tires for cars, including those used for racing or off-roading. The 'comp TAs' are a specific type of tire made for better grip and performance.
The Corvette Z06 is a special version of the Chevrolet Corvette that is designed for better performance, making it faster and more fun to drive.
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ST
The 'ST' is a special version of some Ford cars that are designed to be faster and more fun to drive. They usually have a more powerful engine and better handling than regular models.
The Z06 is a special version of the Chevrolet Corvette that is faster and more powerful than the regular Corvette. It's designed for performance and racing.
The Nissan Maxima is a larger car that's comfortable and has good performance. The third generation refers to the version made in the late 80s and early 90s, which was known for being sporty.
Radwood is a fun event that focuses on cars from the 1980s and 1990s. People celebrate these older cars, which are sometimes seen as not very valuable, and this has made more people interested in them.
Electric vehicle investments are the money car companies spend to make electric cars. Recently, some companies are pulling back on these investments, which shows they're unsure about the future of electric cars.
The Ford Lightning is an electric truck from Ford. It's designed to be powerful and useful, but it has been discontinued, which shows some difficulties in the electric vehicle market.
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an electric van that looks like the old VW buses. It didn't last long in production, which suggests it faced issues in the market.
Fuel economy is how far a car can go on a certain amount of gas. If a car has good fuel economy, it means it doesn't use much gas to drive a long distance.
The Buick Grand National is a classic car from the 1980s that people love because it’s fast and has a cool look. It’s special because it was one of the powerful cars of its time, and many people remember it fondly. It’s often talked about in car culture and music.
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a fancy car that many people like because it’s comfortable and has lots of cool features. It’s often used by business people or families who want a nice ride. People talk about it because it represents luxury and style.
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Welcome to Driving on Awesome.
My name is Warren.
I'm Lane.
I'm Bart.
And this is your special New Year.
Now I can say happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Lane's been waiting for a long time.
2026.
We started this podcast in 2014.
That's sad.
It's almost over, folks.
Don't worry.
12.
Almost 12 years.
2026.
It doesn't sound as weird as 2025 for some reason.
Any thoughts on that?
No.
It feels the same to me.
Same.
Same.
OK.
Why 20?
Why is that?
I don't know.
Round number 2025 just seemed like a more of a monumental year.
2026 is the 250th birth of the country.
That's correct.
Spirit of 76.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it doesn't sound.
I mean, the year doesn't really sound that monumental to me.
I mean, this is what you just mentioned,
but I feel like 2030 feels like the future still.
Yes.
You know, 2030.
That's only a few years away.
We'll definitely be in flying cars by 2030, that's for sure.
All of them.
MagLab, right?
Everything will be different, you know, not.
When was the fifth element?
No, that was way out there, like 3000 or something, right?
Oh, good question.
Let me look it up.
I just thought about it.
Has this been, I'm sure this has been talked about.
Is Donald Trump Biff?
When he was president?
Well, the Biff was inspired by Donald Trump.
And Biff, and oh, wow, he was, right?
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
That's crazy.
So here we go a little DLA trivia for you.
It was in blank year.
So I'll tell you this much.
It wasn't in the 3000s.
It was in the year 2000 something.
Fifth element.
2000, 300.
That's a good guess.
Oh, am I supposed to guess?
Yeah, fifth element.
When did it take place?
2100.
Not too bad, didn't you?
2263.
2263, yeah, very close.
So that's when we're going to fly.
That could happen.
If they get some sort of power source energy breakthrough
that really changes everything there,
that's the only way that some crazy shit's going to happen.
Current setup.
Well, it's like the most importantly,
there needs to be a real need, right?
Like that's like how essential is that?
Well, yeah, getting a new energy source
is a change everything, right?
Yeah, but like, yeah, having, I guess, yeah,
we're trying to alleviate congestion
and like immediacy from place to place.
But how is like, it's such a big,
I feel like it's so risky, right?
Like in a dense area like that,
that's like the big thing, but yeah.
How do you do traffic control?
Well, the things are all talk to each other.
It's an AI thing, right?
Where they like, it's like way mode times 10,
but in the air and I mean, they're all communicating.
Yeah, but can they, can we even physically like make
something like move or like have control at that height?
And with engines and whatever, like and be small,
like how are you doing that?
I guess it's like whole new form of energy.
But I mean, I'm not even my energy,
I'm talking about moving the wind and air
and keeping the thing up.
Energy. Energy, but like, what's the physical part of it?
Like there has to be a physical part
that makes that thing float, right?
Does there?
Yes, it's not just energy.
You don't know.
Like we have propellers we have, what are we using?
Like they can do that.
It could be dark matter.
Cause you see these like flying cars, quote unquote,
and they're like three car lengths wide
and like, you know, they're basically like airplanes.
Like things aren't dark matter.
Okay, dark matter.
Got you.
Never mind.
Magnets, lane, nobody knows how they work.
Oh, magnets, that's a good idea, dude.
There's a lot of alien talk these days.
I don't know where you guys land on this subject,
but people are trying to tell me that aliens are,
I've always been here.
They're underwater.
People have been trying to tell you.
They're everywhere, dude.
We're just on Pacific Avenue.
The guy's sitting on the sidewalk, playing a saw.
Will you live with one?
Yeah, my wife.
Really?
Resident?
I think she's an alien.
What, what gives her away?
She's just like, she's like missing weird things
in the world, like hasn't seen them and stuff, you know?
Doesn't know about them.
Like, like facts or like news.
What are you just like?
Yeah, like she was like missing a part.
I'm like, how did that not cross your path, you know?
Missing a part.
You know, you just kind of like, it's like someone
that was like dropped here from out of nowhere.
And you're like, oh yeah, you remember that movie
or whatever.
You don't remember that.
Pop culture.
Pop culture kind of stuff.
Gotcha.
I don't know if that's alien, alien worthy.
Oh, I think yeah, you need more like it's like a tick
where like her skin glitches and it turns blue for a second
and then turns around like scales kind of ruffle back
and forth for a second or maybe like the sideways, you know,
the additional eyelid thing.
That's a give away.
Dead giveaway.
Yeah, the third, the third boob, third boob, total recall.
The something I was told is that they can bend light.
And so you it's always, they're kind of always around.
You can't see them because the light goes around the predator.
Yeah, predator.
So interesting.
Happy New Year, everyone.
Happy New Year, 2026.
Super cool.
I have to give you guys a little story about my truck.
I got new tires from my truck.
Okay, new tires.
New tires.
I think last time I left, I left the episode saying
that I want to get new tires.
They're kind of like not feeling great.
They're kind of just hard.
Oh, there's a Robin outside or something.
Anyways, the tires came.
New BFGritters went to a tire shop in Santa Cruz
that I've used before.
They've gone through new management,
but they're very well known.
I'm not going to mention their name
because I have to go back there.
So classic.
We're not busy.
Bring it on in 9 a.m. on Tuesday, we gotcha.
Or wait for five hours.
Yeah.
And so I'm like, great, I'll go down.
I'll do some last minute Christmas shopping,
wait for it.
They said it'd be done by one.
One o'clock rolls around.
They haven't started it.
One of those classics, right?
It'll be done by 3.30 at the latest for sure.
Holy mackerel.
Call them at 3.30, nothing.
No call.
Call them at five.
Oh man, these wheels are like really hard to balance.
We had to dismount the tire and move it on the wheel.
Yeah.
I go, okay.
And I was going to get an alignment done.
And I'm like, just forget the alignment.
Just get the tires done.
That's fine.
I'll come back to the alignment.
It's dark at this point.
Yeah.
I've waited around all day, went home,
don't have a ride, all those fun stuff.
So I get down there, five o'clock,
they're kind of shuffling about and there's not many cars.
They're just like unorganized, of course,
tire shop style.
And I go, how are we doing?
And he goes, good, except we can't find your keys.
No way.
What the heck is trying to find your keys like what?
So I kind of like walk towards the truck.
It's in the bay still.
I'm like, what the fuck?
And I look and I see they went, white letters out.
Nice.
On top of everything, like I didn't request it at all.
The truck came in, white letters in, dude.
So I'm like, all right, it took seven hours
to mount and balance four tires.
You've mounted them the wrong way.
You lost my keys.
I didn't even know what to say.
I'm like, okay.
So I wait around for a little bit.
They do find the keys, thank God,
because I was already going through like,
it's an old ass remote from Toyota from like 2000.
I'm like, where do I find it?
All this shit.
I'm like, oh my God, get that.
And then I get, so finally get the car.
He's super apologetic and like,
they're like, we'll get you, you know,
come back after the holidays for the alignment
and we'll figure it out.
Just tell him about white letters out thing?
Yeah, I'm like, oh, and like,
as he's told me, you found the keys.
I'm like, well, also you went white letters out.
Like, why did you do that?
And he like, he's like, oh no.
Like just one of those things were some,
the kid that was probably doing the tires,
just in his mind, like let's just go white letters out.
And I didn't say anything,
but also I shouldn't have to.
That's like a special request.
Yeah, for sure.
If the truck comes in with regular tires,
like you don't, anyways, whatever.
I bare minimum just call, right?
But I think it's like, they were already, they were.
Just say, hey, did you want white letters out?
Or no, I don't.
So that was great.
I get to the car, it's dark, mind you.
And there is, I don't know,
oil, grease smudges all over the truck.
Like I can show you laying the door handle,
my truck's white, just didn't wear gloves or anything.
Like gear shift lever, steering wheel, light switch.
Or wore gloves and didn't take them off.
All of the above.
The gloves hold the oil typically,
like unless it's really bad, like those,
the gloves are pretty good about keeping it on the glove.
Dude, such a bad experience, like all up and down.
And I'm a bad customer because I've been in this world.
So I like, I see everything, but at the same time,
if you're just a regular person,
you get into your like, you know, your mom's white car.
You have your white pants on?
Yeah, there's two.
And so I put a towel down on my seat when I left the truck
because I knew, I just know it's happened to me several times.
And my truck isn't like a show car,
but at the same time it's cloth seats.
And so I put a towel down, the towel is like brown from it.
Like, so it would have just fucked the car up.
Yeah.
No, just zero awareness.
And like, I don't even know if it's worth saying anything
because they're obviously so clueless.
You're like, nothing's good is going to come up.
Yeah, what's going to come from you doing that?
Right.
Besides being an asshole and like, they have other,
they're probably like literally wheels are falling off.
And then the nice, just the like cherry on top of it all.
No, all of the valve stem caps are missing.
What the hell?
Dude.
No, I think there's one.
Three, three out of four are missing, just gone.
And like, okay.
And by the way, they have like a shit like a handful,
you know, they have unlimited supply basket of this is just
not zero awareness.
Yeah, and you're going to go back.
You said so I had to get the fricking tires flipped.
He asked him flip, dude.
Oh my gosh.
Well, I mean, they, I mean, yeah, at this point,
like, I mean, everything that you said,
I almost would want to refund.
I mean, I hope that they're not charging you for that.
That's such because I mean, that's your time.
No, no, they won't charge, but like they won't charge me for it.
I would go somewhere else to honestly,
but I think it's a hundred bucks.
But that's like a hundred bucks like, you know, I would not.
I mean, what does that alignment look like?
Like, look at all that.
I'm not doing the alignment there.
That's like so such a crucial thing, right?
You don't want them.
I'm not doing the alignment there after this experience.
Like I was also like the sway bar end links are kind of blown
out a little bit.
And so I was thinking, I'm like, well,
they're going to be under there.
That's a pretty quick job.
Like, you know, that's maybe I'll just have them do that too.
And I'm so glad.
I'm really glad, honestly, that I stopped the alignment
because I think the truck would have crashed on my way home.
Quick note on the tires, though.
Man, it's like magic carpet ride.
Oh, really?
I had, yeah.
Same tires?
No, no, they're different.
These are the trail terrain.
So they're like not as aggressive level down.
Yeah, they're like significantly lighter.
You were saying?
Yeah.
I think they're like, I can't remember how much lighter they are,
but they're just so much smoother.
There is a noticeable tire noise from those KO twos and they were old.
Oh, and so the tire, the date code on the outside, I'm looking,
I'm looking for it, nothing like what the fuck?
And I'm looking on the internet like, is that the date code?
You know, because there's all sorts of numbers.
Art knows you guys know all this shit.
Yeah.
None of it, none of it matched up to a BF goodness to date code.
The tire code was on the inside of the tire.
Oh, so I got under the truck and looked 10 years old.
What?
Brand new?
No, no, no.
The old, oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, got you.
Oh, I thought, I thought the new ones put on reach.
I've heard some stories of five year old tires being sold as new.
No, I looked at those.
Those are, those are new.
They're tire.
Oh, well, yeah.
They're young at 10 years old.
Super hard rubber, hard crusty rubber fatigue.
I don't even know if all off-road tires can heat cycle,
but like these are not doing anything.
They're just plasticky.
Yeah, that's right.
I can see that.
That's what you were saying.
Like they were kind of like stepping out and stuff.
Like that's normally, I mean, those, those have like, they're pretty like
knobby, right?
Like they can get down in through the water and stuff.
So these also have way more siping in the tread for water and and it's still
so yeah, dude, that's the new ones.
It's such a perfect tire for what you do.
It looks great.
It's going to be plenty fine for, you know, your minimal off-road duties.
No, no, no, 100%.
I'm trying to find a way differences between these two
because I know KO twos are notorious for being tanks, right?
They're yeah.
And then now they make a KO three, which are even more insane.
They're so heavy though.
They're just beef.
Like it's one thing if you lived on a gravel road or something, or you like,
we're doing that a lot, but.
And they also have like no grip on the, on asphalt.
That right.
And so 99.9% of my driving is on road.
And then on top of that, I'm driving highway 17 and.
Like I drove Rick's 9 11 with KO twos.
Oh yeah.
And they're brand new, brand new and like on a normal road, like with a, you know,
normal three, two Carrera, 220 horsepower.
You just like give it gas and second gear and the thing would get like.
Go all out of the way.
Yeah, right.
Right.
No grip.
Like that's how little grip they have.
I know.
So that's my saga.
I'll update people on it.
Just this is where my head went.
My mind went was like, I'm taking it to a tire shop.
They only do all they do.
Yeah, how could this be?
How could this go any other way?
But we got it done.
It only took two hours.
Valsum, like the cap's on is crazy, dude, crazy, like at a tire shop.
I just noticed that this morning because it was dark last night, like every
babe probably has a fucking box of them.
You know, just rushed, not thinking that the grease all over the car is like.
Yeah, that's what the fuck dude.
That's like one on one, right?
It's insane.
I had the experience.
Like if anyone goes over the nice car, like you'd be so bad.
Yeah.
Imagine you have like a brand new car with like a light, light interior or
something on, you know, a new Lexus LC or something.
They are, yeah, it's really bad.
I mean, I'll probably mention something is like, Hey, just so you know, like,
yeah, this might not do anything, but you know, the car was covered in grease.
Like, yeah, I literally have a towel that I was like wiping the steering wheel
down and it's brown.
Yeah, yeah, like that is not a good experience for anybody.
So anyways, that was, that's this tire.
And I feel like I've had a lot of losses on the parts and like project stuff.
Um, just like, uh, I got these door panels from go Westie for the interior.
And then I finally took the box apart and looked at it and they were like
shipped together.
Um, so I had to like clip them all apart and look at them.
And there are two different panels that it's two different batches.
The back of them are different colors.
The front's fine.
It'll, you won't really notice, but they were definitely done at different times.
And so I emailed them and I said, Hey, is this right?
Like this is sold as a set.
I'm just making sure.
And also the hardware game was black for a gray set and the guy was nice enough.
But at the end, he's like, can you send me pictures?
And I did.
And I'm like, yeah, look at like, they're totally different.
This one has a cut out for this.
This one doesn't this, this is like this.
This one's not like, I can make it work, but is this right?
And he's like, Oh, that's weird.
Well, at least no one will notice.
Oh, okay.
And you're like, all right.
I mean, yeah, I guess no one will notice.
I just spent a lot of money with you guys.
And if you're selling a set that's matching and they don't match, like,
what are you selling?
Like, I don't know.
Maybe I'm just being too particular, but they weren't the same.
So anyways, it's been a little bit of a head scratcher these days, you know?
And I don't really know why they would be different.
Like I'll show you pictures, but they are solid, like plastic.
That's the inside of the doors.
Oh, weird.
And also the edges, the outside is the same, but the edges are different too.
Like the way they're finished or what?
Like the plastic they used on the inside is different.
Well, that's weird because that's exposed.
That's going to be exposed on the edges.
Like you won't look from one door to the other notice, but it's just a little
bit of a weird, totally different material.
And it would almost feel like they could say, like, oh shoot, like, would you
like to return it?
And I probably wouldn't.
I'll probably just go, no, it's fine.
I don't want to deal with returning it because it's a pain in the ass.
But yeah, but it was just like not a great experience.
Yeah, they should have just lied to you and said, oh, that's how we define
right versus left.
Right.
Yeah, that's been great, but that's the outside.
Like that's what you'll start going back to the truck.
Real quick, yeah, I would check the torque on your lug nuts.
I know like seriously everything that you said is just so amateur and so
fucking like just they blew it on everything.
Like I would, I would be concerned about that.
Right.
Like I don't know.
I need to look at on it.
Obviously they were completely disorganized and no one knew what they
were like, you know, who was doing what and all that.
His excuse to me was that they had people call out sick.
It is, you know, Christmas week.
It's Monday though.
Christmas is until Thursday.
So, you know, there's it's not like it's fucking Christmas Eve here.
And then he blamed it on they were dead when I made the appointment and
dropped it off and then people can make online appointments without their
knowledge, not their knowledge.
So they this is like the year fucking coffee shop thing.
No, you're like so and like all the people making the online or there's two
different systems.
So when you go to Starbucks, there's they don't they have like it's not like
online people don't cut in front of people that are there.
Like so it they're they're doing it simultaneously, right?
So I mean, you only have three people working.
They're definitely cutting involved.
I don't know what's going on.
But yeah, it was funny to me that they could someone could go online and
make an appointment, even if you're too busy.
That doesn't make sense.
So I don't know what that yeah, they don't like it should all be on the same
network and the blocked off time should be blocked off, right?
They should have a great out areas or whatever.
Or it should come through to the manager and say, like, do you
approve this appointment?
Yes or no.
And then it doesn't let the person know that's making it right.
That's been a right.
But like in your case, let's say you said you have an appointment at one PM.
If if I go online and make an appointment after yours is already locked in,
like technically they're they don't have priority over yours.
Like that's that's it seems like sure.
Internally, they're blown internally.
I mean, that's all there is to it.
It's no matter how many cars you have.
And yeah, it's not good.
And definitely I will let everyone know how this saga ends.
And then I will do it.
Yeah, it's sorry to hear, man.
That's extremely frustrating.
Um, and I know, I mean, there's, there aren't a lot of tire players in town
there, but hopefully the alternatives are better.
There are some, there are some, I could have just gone to the big O tires
down the street from here that would have been fine.
And I'm sure whatever it's, this is all.
You just don't think about it when you're like, that's all you do, right?
Tires, tires and alignment.
That's like what you do all day long every day.
And he also told me when I dropped the truck off, he's like, oh man,
those Toyotas are hard to align.
I was like, what's like half the cars and Santa Cruz or Toyotas Toyota trucks.
So I have to imagine they do it every day.
But apparently they're difficult.
They're so finesse, you know, it's like little,
dude, there's very precise machines, you know, those have big old Toyota trucks.
So, um, Sebrat motors, dude, we did it, it didn't rain, dude, it didn't rain.
Well, it started off looking very rainy and it never really rained.
No, it never rained.
It was just heavy, heavy fog dude.
I had puddles all over my, my neighborhood.
I mean, we did too, but it wasn't raining, but it wasn't raining.
No, it never rained heavy mist and it definitely never rained during the show
hours, like from 12 to four.
I'm so stoked on that because I was really envisioning just being in the van,
like going, well, I mean, we probably would have just like took off and one
showed up, yeah, we would have just left.
I mean, I was, I was stoked on the turnout, considering the threat.
Yeah, right?
Like because even with the threat that, that cuts your audience in half really.
It's like, like there's so many people are like, oh, I'm like, I'm just not doing
that. It says it's going to be pouring all day.
Yeah.
And that's exactly what happened.
Yeah.
But I think we had a good turnout.
We had a great turnout.
That was, that was fun.
Everyone was very complimentary of it too.
Lane, I know Lane for the listeners put all the work into it and his brother
Shane and uh, both live in the hood.
So that's, that makes sense, right?
But uh, it was cool and it made me like kind of made me think about other spots
we could do this at where it's a little bit more off the cuff.
Yeah.
It reminded me actually of our old Davenport days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
That was the vibe because you have the restaurant in the, you have the stuff
right there that you can go to and the lot was a little bit like kind of
unorganized, which is kind of what made it feel.
Yeah.
And you park on the street and stuff like that.
Um, and like, yeah.
And like Davenport days, people parking a lot next door.
Totally.
Uh, yeah.
It had a lot of that.
Um, yeah, I think, I think the restaurants appreciated it.
Um, I'm just glad like people did come.
So there was people in restaurants and stuff.
And like we went, like Warren, I went to Brady's yacht club.
Um, we had to show like our friend as a slip in the harbor.
So we were able to get in.
Um, and uh, we were there and there was like random people, you know, like when
I was leaving the guys like, Hey, thanks for putting this on, you know,
that's some, some, you know, guy.
And yeah, it was like people were going to the businesses, which is what and
I got a slice of pizza in my van again, delivered from Chimanti.
From Angford.
Oh, from Angford.
She walked around and she said, dude, would you like some pizza?
I was like, I'm never turning down pizza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which was great.
So hopefully they got some business.
Yeah.
I think it was all, all good.
All good.
Um, it was fun.
Any highlight cars?
Maybe Mr. Poopy bug.
God, what a pile of crap.
Um, I really, really like the, um, Chrysler town and country.
Oh yeah.
It's a, it's a convertible, um, with huge white walls.
It's that great green.
It's a woody.
It's a woody.
So town and country, you know, they made a few different versions of it,
but this one is so pretty and, and perfect.
This is a guy that goes to capital cars and coffee and these friends with,
friends of a friend and he's a great collection.
Um, thing is so killer in person.
It's like, man, that's just doing it,
doing car stuff so differently than we do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the 61, uh, Impala, dude, nothing was so nice.
Man, I love those cars.
Yeah.
I was on full hydros on him.
He slammed it when he got there.
He did the, the back down first.
And I was like, that's kind of sick look.
And then he aired it all the way down, but yeah, I think it was red.
Those are my two highlights.
Yeah.
I kind of all, uh, second that Impala first, I mean, both of them were super rad.
But dude, and you're seeing your 944 is such a trip.
It's been a while since I've seen it.
Oh yeah.
And then, um, it's under new ownership and cruising around.
Oh, different.
Not, not your bro.
No, I was actually at Seabright deli and I heard it and turned around.
I was like, Oh, I think that's my old car.
You know, I just saw the tail.
Totally.
Tail of it leaving.
Yeah, that was cool.
Um, I see the, the, that Myers Manx was kind of cool.
That was like, it's like a 2000s Myers Manx when Bruce, my, my, is it Bruce Meyer or
whatever when he was like still involved, I think before like the new ownership.
Um, so it's just like, he said it was 2008, I think that he built, had it built together
and it's a real Myers Manx, but it has he's crazy.
Like it's like road style.
So it's like, this is not knobby tires.
It has like BF, Goodrich, comp, TAs or something.
And then it has these side pods.
Usually the cars are like they're undercut and this one has these big fiberglass,
like intakes and he has an oil cooler in one of them.
It looked pretty good.
I mean, you could tweak it a bit to make it look much better.
And the one thing I just cannot understand about those cars.
Yeah.
Why do they have those same crappy Volkswagen seats in them?
Oh, these like weird laid back sports seats and all the Manx and like bugs,
like Baja bugs use the same thing.
They're so gross.
I don't get it.
I really don't get it.
What, what is it?
I don't know.
Maybe it's like just easy plug and play.
It's easy.
Yeah.
All the, the shop's solemn or something.
Oh, this was also an interesting one because it wasn't a shortened
pan usually makes.
So it was a four seater one.
Yeah.
And I had a cool top that looked it up and yeah.
That was a neat car.
It was pretty cool.
And then, uh, yeah, Doug brought his ST Ben Roget brought his new zero six,
which I didn't even look at for more than two seconds.
Congrats, Ben.
That's a nice car.
Horrible color.
Very, very.
What?
You like that color?
What color is it?
Congratulations, Ben.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Congrats, Ben.
I like it for you.
It's a, it's very serious car.
Yeah.
I mean, that's every time I see this, that's a pretty legit, uh, that engine is epic,
right?
I think that's, this is the one that sounds great.
Yeah.
Doug said that they went on a drive and he's like,
it was the first car that Ben's had where his car's louder than mine.
Yeah.
That ST is a fricking buzz saw, man.
That thing blasted past me a few times on the rally and just so fricking loud.
What's the power on those zero six is like 670 horsepower or something crazy?
Probably.
I don't know.
There's some other cool stuff.
I love Charles's scout and, um, met some new like car people that hadn't been to
one of our events before, which is always fun.
Like it's cool.
So yeah, yeah, there was that.
There was that, uh, was like third gen Maxima green.
Oh yeah.
That guy.
Yeah.
It's like super fancy, right?
He brought it around.
Yeah.
And he had been too.
He said he went to the lot.
He was in the last Radwood LA.
Yep.
That's yeah.
That's funny.
He's wearing a Radwood hat.
There was this article about Radwood, like values of cars kind of rising steadily,
obviously, since we've done our thing and which is cool.
And then our buddy Rick messaged me.
He's like, Oh, we, we ruined it.
You know, no, actually we made it so people will care about these shit boxes.
Yeah.
Keep some, keep some alive, right?
Yeah.
That one's going to value is the only reason these cars like that Maxima.
There's yeah, it didn't ever write to live before.
It was just got used up.
Yeah.
Purpose, a platform.
I like how laying off the cuff.
I don't know.
What is that zero six?
I don't know.
Six hundred and seventy horsepower or whatever.
Like that's exactly how much it is because you know it's all about it.
I mean, I probably just had it in my mind.
But yeah, six seventy five point five later.
This is the flat, the flat plane crank V eight which and that's naturally aspirated
and a zero to sixty and two point six seconds.
Geez, dude.
It was like a better car though.
You're awesome.
Yeah, but that's a that's a legit salt power to horsepower per liter, dude.
Five point five and a six hundred and seventy horsepower.
That's fucking commendable.
Probably revs super high, very automatic transmission.
Yeah, I'm looking through the photos that you posted.
That's because obviously I wasn't there, but I do like the pepperpot wheels on
that cabbie.
There was a VW cabbie little pickup truck.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, those are sick.
Yeah, more than more than one person asked me if you were going to be their art.
So all right, I'll make it up there.
One thing that we do have to do is just from a branding standpoint,
people kept calling it the days in cars and coffee, like all sorts of stuff.
So I kept like responding.
Hashtag see bright motors.
Like I think someone called it the days, days motors or something
because it's that day's parking lot.
Yeah.
Days, days is good times, good times.
So we do have some questions.
I could jump into here.
Couple of Amelia brought treats, but you laugh before she had some for you too.
So weird though, because I was with her.
I know you were like hanging out.
Yeah, I know.
And then she texted me later.
She's like, I had baked goods for you.
I'm like, oh damn, I would have loved that.
Yeah, I think she just forgot.
Yeah, we were having fun.
We're having a good time.
Jacob Torres six is Mary Chris, Mary Chrysler and happy new year.
Good one, Jacob.
Happy new year to you too.
John Rice is Mary Christmas.
Happy Honda days and a wonderful Lexus December.
To remember to you gentlemen, may all your cars receive giant bows.
I need to get one of those bows.
That would have been a nice gift for you guys.
Actually, that would have been awesome.
Yeah.
Just a giant bow.
Bay Area Pro 4x.
That's the maximum.
Oh, what going on in the industry now gives you hope for the future
of automotive enthusiasm.
I have a bit of a, this is a guilty conscience situation here.
I was never really a big fan of these like by 2030,
all cars are going to be electric mandates.
I thought that it was nice that they're moving that direction,
but it always felt way too fast and rushed and like very kill all cars sort of like,
let's just get these to a point where they're just appliances.
And it never felt like that was actually going to happen,
but it was slowly moving that direction.
Well, now the news right this second and the mandates that are being eliminated
and car companies essentially just giving up on their huge electric investments is pretty wild.
Like Ford Lightning is just dead.
The ID buzz dead after one model year.
I mean, major investments in this stuff to change the industry really are essentially
being abandoned like it's just, it's really unfortunate to in some ways though,
because like I feel like you want to continue with certain things.
You know, yes, there's going to be some losses and all of that,
but like for example, like the lightning is actually a super.
It's a great product, right?
It's just like there was just no uptake.
I think the ID buzz is too.
I think it's cool dude.
It's great.
Yeah, I drove one around like it drives fantastic.
And I mean, it actually like has so many cool use cases like it's that you can power a freaking
house off of it.
Like it's like a full on generator, you know, and yeah.
And so like stuff like that, it's, it's an interesting move.
I don't know.
Like I guess Ford can afford to do this sort of knee jerky stuff,
but it's more, I feel not really it's a messaging.
Ford can't though.
They don't have money dude.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
It's like, I think, but the whole, all the mandates and stuff made it where it had to
knee jerk reaction to like do it and they didn't really want to do it.
So then we're in reality, like these are cool products and it'd be cool if they just kind
of like worked on this product and evolved it and made it into a better thing that people
actually want.
And then people would naturally go that way.
I just think of it like these make it ultra efficient, gas powered or hybrid, right?
It doesn't have to go so, everything was so extreme.
Yeah.
That's kind of how we found it.
We find ourselves in this weird situation.
And then you could offer a one that's electric as well.
And that's cool because I think there is a, I think there is a market for electric stuff,
but there's like a, and there's also a right versus left because like supposedly the left are
all like, you know, electric car people on the right hates them, but you're like,
but they can be good for a lot of people.
Like, right?
Art has a perfect use case for his.
I had a perfect use case for my car.
It's still a great use case for it today, but for electric cars.
Yeah. So I think what I'm saying is my guilty conscience comes from, are there any,
he's asking if there's any like encouraging trends or, and I think it is that we will
probably see more exciting cars come down.
You know, the next five years, we're probably going to see some actual interesting sports
cars instead of like all of them sort of dying.
And probably in different kinds of efficiency, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It doesn't have to be like all or nothing electric, right?
I think that's where I'm at.
So I want efficient cars.
And if it's a hybrid or what have you, like that's, that's great.
And I want great, you know, fuel economy.
I'm just really concerned for the automotive and the American automotive industry, you know,
as like the rest of the world continues to electrify and, you know,
I know we are still, or actually, I don't know if that's true.
Historically, we've always been the biggest automotive market in the world.
I don't know if China surpassed us yet,
but it's just going to happen no matter what.
But, you know, as we kind of still focus on the ICE stuff, which is great,
I understand where you're coming from at the same time, like the rest of the world
go in different direction and that becomes the standard.
And then when it's time for, you know, us to go back to that,
we're going to be so far behind, right?
So that's my concern.
And, you know, then I could see it go in the other direction where eventually, you know,
we start importing Chinese products and or German and Japanese because of it.
So not the end of the world, really.
I mean, obviously there will be things for us to experience and buy.
It's just like unfortunate for the American automotive industry.
But I think that goes beyond just electric.
I think the Chinese have like their efficiency of like building products right now and stuff is like
surpassing ours is surpassed ours.
So they can like build a high quality product now for like, for way less money.
So like that alone, even if you're looking at like, don't even talk about like the ice
versus electric and all this stuff, it's like they're going to,
they're like starting to build superior.
They're building superior products.
It's kind of like when the Japanese cars came in the 70s or, you know,
yeah, the 70s and basically were like all these American cars.
They were just wrestling on their laurels and building shit boxes, you know?
And then the Japanese came in and they're like, oh, shit.
And that's what's happening right now.
Like China is building like supposedly by all accounts, like amazing products, dude.
Like very high quality.
And you've seen it with like little products we get like on like DJI, you know,
the drone company and they make like cameras now and like that product is so fucking good,
dude. It's so far beyond like what, you know, like we could have imagined 10 years ago and
like the way their industrial design is and everything clicks together.
They were trying to pursue that realm and DJI just basically was, yeah,
they were a few steps ahead and then they have the efficiencies as you're describing
in terms of cost as well, but also just figuring out a way to produce it at a very high standard
while still costing 30% of what we would, what it would cost to make here.
And that's the most impressive thing that it's actually a very good, like tactile,
like beautifully designed and put together product where it used to be kind of like,
oh, well, so that's Chinese.
Like you see all the mold, you know, mold marks and stuff like that.
And it's just kind of shitty.
Now they're making like beautiful products, you know?
Yeah.
Have you seen the Xiaomi Su7?
It's that electric car. There was a good review on YouTube.
Yeah, that's what they're saying.
It's like basically a take-in kind of vibes for sure.
But it's essentially a really high quality electric car with a bunch of features that
is $20,000 cheaper than it should be.
It's a company that makes phones and all sorts of other electronics.
They're making a car now.
And it's just kind of nails it for an electric car.
You can't really compete with this in the current situation.
They don't sell it in the US yet.
I think they're talking about maybe releasing it in Europe.
But that'll remains to be seen.
But yeah, it's interesting.
You know, the question wasn't whether we feel good about the American car industry.
It was just like car industry in general.
Well, it's like what has us hopeful.
And so I think there's a couple ways to look out.
But yeah, it's an interesting time.
Well, for me, it's like it's something we're involved with.
But I'm seeing more and more rallies pop up and more driving-centric events.
Like, you know, that's super important, right?
Like driving culture and that's expanding.
We see more people doing it.
And you know, ultimately, that's a net positive, right?
We want to use our cars.
And in doing it in a social and fun environment like that,
I think it's great for community and culture and really, quite frankly, influencing what happens.
Because a lot of the people on those drives are, you know, hold certain positions and are also
influential within their communities.
And like, you know, all of those things sort of snowball, right?
But not at the same time, not the opposite, which is just driving
chaotically on mountain roads and crashing and dying,
like which is also happening and is now very like magnified.
And that's like not great because everybody has cameras on their cars and or on their glasses
and all of the shit's being documented and shared.
And that's detrimental.
So but I think the organized component, you know, is cool to see.
And some of it is not so much even like, like a full three day, like, you know,
commitment like what we do, which is, you know, a bi annual thing.
Like I'm seeing like day drives that people are doing with their friends.
And like even here in Santa Barbara, like I see groups of people,
they just organize, you know, the meet up at a shop.
There's like 10 cars and they go for an epic drive, do some lunch.
Like there's more of that happening.
So I think that's a great, a great thing.
I want to see more of that and continue seeing that.
And also just like in the long run, that's kind of the way I see our cars.
Anyways, like I know there's, like as we're talking about, you know, cars being,
you know, becoming more autonomous and, you know, whether or not their EVs are not like,
especially when people, when you live in the city, you know, or near big cities,
like that's not where you want to drive your fun car.
You know, like it's just congested.
Like think about like people like to drive their super cars in Miami.
It's like the worst, you know, I know it's like to be seen in the show off,
but it's like the worst possible place.
It's completely flat.
It's super congested.
You can't, you can't enjoy the car at all.
Like it's, it's the worst versus like, okay, have that dedicated toy for the weekend
and move away from that scene.
Go up into the mountains, somewhere rural and beautiful where, you know,
you can enjoy it and then in the city have your appliance.
Like that seems like a much more, it makes more sense, right?
It's like a more sensible solution for that sort of thing.
Yeah, I enjoy that I've seen, I feel like I talk to people and see it on YouTube
and all these places, but like the narrative of like, it's less of like how fast is that car?
Like it's turned more into like what our whole, you know, our whole ethos of like,
it's like having something that has sense of occasion is fun to drive.
Aspirations, the aspirate, and this is like young people too.
Like then they're not aspiring as much to have that like whatever set 800 horsepower super car.
It's more like they're aspiring just to have a cool car and you kind of see a lot more of that.
And it's kind of like how we're, you know, how we've always been kind of like the outliers
in that a little bit, like our whole, but it feels like it's kind of taking over a little more
and like the youth are getting it and stuff like the ASMR kind of videos by young people
that are fascinated with buttons and, you know, all that is great.
And you see it in Radwood, you know, the Radwoods and stuff like that.
Definitely. Yeah. Just celebrating analog culture as well, right?
But engagement is key as you're saying and that is true. I have noticed that.
And, you know, it's kind of a bit of a mixed blessing with the whole like EV performance,
right? Because like it's so easy, right? Like, like performance is so cheap and easy now that
it's not about that anymore. It's what you're describing and it's the stuff that we're passionate
about. So it's a nice to see for sure. Yeah. I remember, I think, I feel like when we started
doing this podcast 12 years ago, I mean, we were a lot younger, but also like people are age and
younger, but mostly younger. We're like, when you tell them about your car, they'd be like,
Oh, that's an old car. You know, it was just like, it was like a new car is the best car
and the newest is the best and, you know, like and you want less buttons. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel
like that is more power to like that was in horsepower. Yeah. People wanting to add like
screens to their cars and like, you know, like the, the, you know, the pop out DVD shit and all
that. Yeah. So one, one other thing I'll add to this real quick is this is something that I feel
like I want to like, I haven't really figured out how to be more involved with, but is I'm starting
to see more lifestyle and car culture like mixing and it's like, and I love that because it's like
non car people being introduced to cars and vice versa, right? Like you see this with hip hop
artists at the moment and especially Radwood era stuff, which is really cool. Like it started
with the kith is over the with the kiths of the world and all that, but yeah, like I mean
immediately on Dior, like doing all their Porsche build exactly and then there's like wheel price
doing stuff. There's like the obviously race service has been doing shit like this for a
while, a period. Correct. Like like all of that is kind of an interesting world that we haven't
really tapped into and there's like there's a lot of crossover, right? Like I know that
Eloise when she or Eloisa, she was talking about her, her component of that, right and how she
integrates art with cars and fashion and so I love that. I think that's really cool too because
you start to sort of bleed into the masses and some of the mainstream and again getting
recognition for what we do as like something valuable from a cultural standpoint and an
artistic standpoint. I mean, even the Kendrick Lamar like Grand National thing blew up, you know,
like that's massive. So I think it's cool to see that happening and there is that again. It all goes
back to that appreciation of the analog and the artistic and sense of occasion and and not just
like loud raw power, right? Like Ben roger because that's well. Yeah, I was even like I was driving
San Francisco. I took a like posted a picture the other day in San Francisco and it was on a brick
building a big an advertisement and it was a Porsche ad. Did you guys see that that I posted?
It was it was a it was a Cisco, but it's like there is no substitute or something like that,
but it's an 80s G body. Yeah. So there even, you know, it's like celebrating that kind of stuff.
It's great.
Automotive omnivore. So John, he says, do car conversations ever come up at your family holiday
gatherings? If so, what kind? We've got a Subaru guy and an electric car guy in the group. So
I have the same conversation. Like my uncle has a Mercedes wagon, like a newer e-class,
and we have the same conversation about it like every time. Oh, really? It's just like,
what a great car and man parts are expensive and but but man, they drive so nice and
you know, it's the same kind of like a script. My like father-in-law and
my my brother-in-laws and stuff like that. Like they'll be it'll be like literally like,
oh, what's only going to be driving or something like that. It's not like or it's like they got a
new car. Actually, my one brother-in-law has like a cool. I don't even know what it like a 60s Ford
van that that he just got because he does like art and stuff and he wants to like paint it like
sell stuff out of it. He's like selling art and stuff out of it. And then he might have something
else. But yeah, for the most part, it's not there's not a lot in my immediate family. Yeah,
that's like all we're talking like we were talking about cars all the time. So yeah, yeah. Yeah,
my brother-in-law, same thing. Like we talk cars and stuff, but it's not a lot. Not a ton of
conversation about it. I don't have a lot of car people in the immediate family. They're
more artistic. They don't like cars, just tree hookers or one. Yeah, again, we hug trees too,
but you know it's a they're going to Shakespeare, not our sole passion. Yeah, I mean for me, it's
it's not not really. It's more technology if it's with my father-in-law like he loves like
just any interesting tech. He was always kind of a car guy like he he was really into Dotson's
forever. So he went through every Z and event that evolved to it being or sorry, that evolved to
him having a G 35 as his last like kind of enthusiast vehicle. He had a manual G 35
Cooper sedan my father-in-law Cooper sedan. Oh, coupe. Sorry. I thought you said who and that
was his last, you know, enthusiast car. And then he went all sizzling Tesla on us and that's what
he's been doing. You know, they're old and boring. But yeah, outside of that, it's it's a my especially
like my my immediate family, not not at all. If I were to go to Mexico, I have a ton of cousins who
and uncles who are car people and I can definitely riff with them, but but not domestically,
especially my brother-in-law who's like not a car person at all like he just it's like I get like
whatever whatever news he sees like he tries to engage with me right like oh I heard that
Xiaomi came up with this or Tesla did that or you know, or what do you think of this?
Like it's just all sort of like not authentic car talk, but yeah, very, very little of that.
I know I feel the same way. I kind of shut it down a lot of times because they're like trying
to talk to me about cars because they think that I don't want to write you just kind of redirect
and be like, oh, what about that? What are you wearing or what? What are you up to?
Yeah, I feel you. Last question of the year from one of our most prolific
question askers, Ben Roget, which we appreciate Ben very much. He makes such an effort. In fact,
all sorts of folks are coming from very far away to see us at morning motors and all sorts of things
like John Jesse comes from the Central Valley, Ben, even Doug from San Francisco. Ben may be
to come and hang out with us, which is awesome. So we really appreciate it. And Ben is asking,
what are you looking forward to in 2026?
Camping while awesome rally is what I'm looking for. I can't wait.
That's what I can't wait for. I'm looking forward to both our rallies. Camping awesome first.
Always. Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing more morning motors, Radwoods, events,
just kind of stuff. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, but the camping rally is going to be fun. So
again, if you're interested, keep an eye on our Patreon and whatnot. Tickets are going to be
our registration. Watch the space. We'll be open mid mid mid January around. Yeah,
figuring it out. Yeah. Alright, last trivia here.
When was the first ball drop in Times Square? Oh man.
Oh man, I think it had to be for television, right? It had to be a television thing.
And when would they have started doing that big time? I can hear the little the radio voice,
right? Yeah, exactly. And the ball is beginning to drop.
Oh, look at that. It's falling fast. Everyone's moving around. So many five thousand people here
today. I think it's probably like a new creation. It's like what's up? What's your what's your
guess?
Nineteen thirty one. Oh wow. You're going early thirty one from art. I don't know why
I was going to go later. I'm going to go like mid sixties sixty six to six seven or what
Dude, would it surprise you to know that it was 1907? Wow, early as ice. What the frick?
The first Times Square ball drop was on New Year's Eve 1907 welcoming 1908 organized by Adolf
Ochs owner of the New York Times Times Square. Not just a catchy name as a spectacular
alternative to fireworks to promote his newspaper's new headquarters. This iron and
wood ball designed by art craft Strauss initiated a tradition that's continued annually with
exceptions only for World War Two. Yeah, World War Two 1942 and 1943. They did not do it
1907. Damn, that's crazy. I can't believe it. We're almost at 100 years. That's sweet.
I was I was sixty six. So there you go. Had to be for TV. The one had to be for TV.
I was shocked. I was a little shocked by your guess Lane. Why? Because you had to be black
and white footage of that thing dropping. Yeah, sixties. Well, I know I was thinking I was
going and I don't know reason. No, I didn't think it would be black and white. It was more
like art. The and today we witness another amazing feat and I was thinking about everyone
having TVs in their homes and stuff and 1960s. I'm like, yeah, it's almost a hundred years guys.
I guess I don't know. Yeah, there were no TVs and households then right. I mean, I guess it was
just like in the fifties. They in the fifties. They had TVs and houses. Yeah, yeah, fifties,
but not the. No, no, seven. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like I mean there was no TV,
probably of it. It was just people out there watching these right when. Yeah, I imagine I
bet they would watch it in theaters as well. Probably they probably filmed it somehow. Yeah,
newsreels ever. It was on Instagram. I agreed with you guys on the rallies and driving events
and doing all the cool shit, but I did not add my two cents on what I'm looking forward to. And
I'm looking for Ben Roje maybe exploring other professional options because I feel like it
comes up frequently. That's weird, dude. Looking forward to his future. Yeah, let's let's hear
about this new, this new venture, man. Let's just go for it, dude. Just go for it, Ben.
Okay, happy new year. Happy new year. Happy happy year. See you.
About this episode
A lively discussion kicks off the New Year with the hosts reflecting on time, cars, and pop culture. They share amusing anecdotes about tire shop mishaps, including a frustrating experience with a tire installation gone wrong. The conversation shifts to the future of automotive culture, touching on electric vehicles, the rise of organized driving events, and the blending of car culture with lifestyle trends. The hosts also highlight memorable cars from a recent event, including a stunning Chrysler Town and Country convertible and a 1961 Impala. The episode wraps up with light-hearted trivia and a look ahead to 2026.