A lively discussion kicks off the New Year with the hosts reflecting on time, cars, and pop culture. They share amusing anecdotes about tire shop mishaps, including a frustrating experience with a tire installation gone wrong. The conversation shifts to the future of automotive culture, touching on electric vehicles, the rise of organized driving events, and the blending of car culture with lifestyle trends. The hosts also highlight memorable cars from a recent event, including a stunning Chrysler Town and Country convertible and a 1961 Impala. The episode wraps up with light-hearted trivia and a look ahead to 2026.
"...ires came. New BFGritters went to a tire shop in Santa Cruz that I've used before."
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a smaller truck that’s good for carrying things and also comfortable for driving around town. It’s new and has a cool design, making it a fun choice for people who want both a truck and an SUV. It’s great for those who need a vehicle that can do a bit of everything.
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a compact pickup truck that blends the utility of a truck with the comfort of an SUV. Introduced in 2021, it has gained attention for its unique design, versatility, and modern technology features, appealing to those who need a vehicle for both work and leisure. Its innovative cargo bed and spacious interior make it a standout in the growing compact truck segment.
"the tires came. New BFGritters went to a tire shop in Santa Cruz that I've used before."
BFGritters are a brand of tires made by BFGoodrich. They are known for being tough and providing good traction, especially for off-road driving.
BFGritters refers to a type of tire made by BFGoodrich, known for their performance and durability, especially in off-road conditions. They are popular among car enthusiasts for their grip and reliability.
"I'm not doing the alignment there. That's like so such a crucial thing, right?"
Alignment is about making sure the wheels of a car are pointing in the right direction. If they aren't, it can cause problems like uneven tire wear and difficulty steering.
Alignment refers to the adjustment of a vehicle's suspension system to ensure that the wheels are set to the correct angles. Proper alignment is crucial for vehicle handling, tire wear, and overall safety.
"I've heard some stories of five year old tires being sold as new. No, I looked at those. Those are, those are new."
Tire age is how long a tire has been sitting around since it was made. Older tires can become hard and unsafe, even if they look new.
Tire age refers to how long a tire has been manufactured and can significantly affect its performance and safety. Tires older than six years may have degraded rubber, leading to reduced traction and increased risk of blowouts.
"So these also have way more siping in the tread for water and and it's still..."
Siping is when small cuts are made in a tire's tread to help it grip the road better when it's wet. This makes it safer to drive in the rain.
Siping refers to the small slits or grooves cut into the tread of a tire to improve traction on wet surfaces. This design helps to channel water away from the tire, reducing the risk of hydroplaning.
"...because I know KO twos are notorious for being tanks, right? And then now they make a KO three, which are even more insane."
The KO2 is a type of tire made by BFGoodrich that is designed for driving on rough surfaces, like dirt and mud. It's known for being very tough and reliable.
The KO2 is a model of all-terrain tire produced by BFGoodrich, known for its durability and off-road performance. It features an aggressive tread design that provides excellent traction on various surfaces, making it popular among off-road enthusiasts.
"...And then now they make a KO three, which are even more insane."
The KO3 is the newest tire model from BFGoodrich, made to perform even better than the KO2. It's built for tougher off-road driving.
The KO3 is the latest version of the KO tire series from BFGoodrich, designed to offer even greater performance and durability than its predecessor, the KO2. It is engineered to handle more extreme off-road conditions and provide better traction.
"...I'm driving highway 17 and. Like I drove Rick's 9 11 with KO twos. Oh yeah."
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people love for its speed and unique shape. It's known for being fun to drive and has been around for a long time.
The Porsche 911 is a high-performance sports car known for its distinctive design and rear-engine layout. It has a long history of being a favorite among car enthusiasts and is recognized for its handling and performance capabilities.
"...like with a, you know, normal three, two Carrera, 220 horsepower. You just like give it gas and second gear..."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and more powerful the car can be.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, commonly used to describe the power output of engines. In automotive terms, it indicates how much work an engine can perform over time, influencing a vehicle's acceleration and top speed.
"...a brand new car with like a light, light interior or something on, you know, a new Lexus LC or something."
The Lexus LC is a fancy two-door car made by Lexus, which is a luxury brand from Toyota. It's known for being stylish and having a lot of cool features.
The Lexus LC is a luxury coupe that combines performance with high-end features and design. It is known for its striking looks and advanced technology.
"...I got these door panels from Go Westy for the interior. And then I finally took the box apart and looked at it and they were like..."
Go Westy is a company that sells parts for older Volkswagen vans. They help people fix and improve their classic VW vehicles.
Go Westy is a company that specializes in parts and accessories for Volkswagen Vanagons and other classic VW vehicles. They offer a range of products to help restore and maintain these vehicles.
"...real quick, yeah, I would check the torque on your lug nuts."
Torque is how much twisting force you use to tighten something. In cars, it's important to make sure parts like wheel nuts are tight enough to keep the wheels on safely.
Torque refers to the rotational force applied to an object, such as a bolt or nut. In automotive contexts, it's crucial for ensuring that components like lug nuts are tightened to the correct specification for safety and performance.
"...pile of crap. Um, I really, really like the, um, Chrysler town and country. Oh yeah."
The Chrysler Town & Country is a family minivan that can carry a lot of people and stuff, making it great for road trips. It has nice features to keep everyone comfortable, but some people have had issues with how well it works over time. It’s a popular choice for families who need space.
The Chrysler Town & Country is a minivan that was produced from 1989 to 2016, known for its spacious interior and family-friendly features. It was one of the first minivans to offer luxury options, making it popular among families looking for comfort and convenience. Despite its popularity, it has received mixed reviews regarding reliability and performance over the years.
"Um, I really, really like the, um, Chrysler Town and Country. Oh yeah. It's a, it's a convertible, um, with huge white walls."
The Chrysler Town and Country is a type of minivan that is great for families. It has a lot of space inside and is designed to be comfortable for passengers.
The Chrysler Town and Country is a minivan that was produced by Chrysler, known for its spacious interior and family-friendly features. It has a long history and has been popular for its versatility and comfort.
"...the 61, uh, Impala, dude, nothing was so nice."
The Chevrolet Impala is a large car that was first made in 1958. The 1961 version is famous for its unique design and is popular among car collectors.
The Chevrolet Impala is a full-size car that was introduced in 1958 and became one of Chevrolet's most popular models. The 1961 model is known for its distinctive styling and is often sought after by collectors.
"But dude, and you're seeing your 944 is such a trip. It's been a while since I've seen it."
The Porsche 944 is a type of sports car made by the German company Porsche. It was popular in the 1980s and 1990s for its good handling and performance.
The Porsche 944 is a sports car produced by Porsche from 1982 to 1991. It is known for its balanced handling and front-engine layout, making it a popular choice among enthusiasts.
"Um, I see the, the, that Myers Manx was kind of cool. That was like, it's like a 2000s Myers Manx when Bruce, my, my, is it Bruce Meyer or whatever when he was like still involved..."
The Myers Manx is a type of dune buggy known for its lightweight fiberglass body and fun driving experience. The version discussed was made in 2008, which is a more recent model of this classic vehicle.
The Myers Manx is a fiberglass dune buggy that became iconic in the 1960s and 70s. The 2000s version mentioned was built in 2008 and reflects a modern take on the classic design.
"It has like BF, Goodrich, comp, TAs or something."
BFGoodrich is a brand that makes tires for cars, including those used for racing or off-roading. The 'comp TAs' are a specific type of tire made for better grip and performance.
BFGoodrich is a well-known tire manufacturer that produces a variety of tires for different vehicles, including performance and off-road applications. The 'comp TAs' refer to their Competition T/A line, which is designed for high-performance driving.
"...and he has an oil cooler in one of them. It looked pretty good."
An oil cooler is like a small radiator for your engine oil. It keeps the oil from getting too hot, which helps the engine run better and last longer.
An oil cooler is a component that helps to regulate the temperature of the engine oil, preventing it from overheating. This is crucial for maintaining optimal engine performance and longevity, especially in high-performance vehicles.
"...Doug brought his ST Ben Roget brought his new zero six, which I didn't even look at for more than two seconds."
The Corvette Z06 is a special version of the Chevrolet Corvette that is designed for better performance, making it faster and more fun to drive.
The Chevrolet Corvette Z06 is a high-performance variant of the Corvette sports car, known for its powerful engine and track-focused features.
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"...that ST is a fricking buzz saw, man."
The 'ST' is a special version of some Ford cars that are designed to be faster and more fun to drive. They usually have a more powerful engine and better handling than regular models.
The 'ST' refers to a performance-oriented variant of certain Ford models, particularly the Ford Focus ST and Ford Fiesta ST. These models are known for their sporty handling and turbocharged engines, making them popular among enthusiasts.
"What's the power on those zero six is like 670 horsepower or something crazy?"
The Z06 is a special version of the Chevrolet Corvette that is faster and more powerful than the regular Corvette. It's designed for performance and racing.
The Chevrolet Corvette Z06 is a high-performance variant of the Corvette sports car, known for its powerful engine and track-ready features. The Z06 typically features enhanced aerodynamics and a more powerful engine compared to standard Corvette models.
"there was that, uh, was like third gen Maxima green."
The Nissan Maxima is a larger car that's comfortable and has good performance. The third generation refers to the version made in the late 80s and early 90s, which was known for being sporty.
The Nissan Maxima is a full-size sedan known for its performance and luxury features. The third generation of the Maxima, produced in the late 1980s to early 1990s, is recognized for its sporty design and advanced technology for its time.
"There was this article about Radwood, like values of cars kind of rising steadily, obviously, since we've done our thing and which is cool."
Radwood is a fun event that focuses on cars from the 1980s and 1990s. People celebrate these older cars, which are sometimes seen as not very valuable, and this has made more people interested in them.
Radwood is a car culture event and movement that celebrates vehicles from the 1980s and 1990s, often referred to as 'sh*t boxes' in a lighthearted manner. It has gained popularity for showcasing the unique style and nostalgia of these cars, leading to an increase in their values and appreciation among enthusiasts.
"...and a zero to sixty and two point six seconds. Geez, dude."
Zero to sixty time tells you how fast a car can go from a complete stop to 60 miles per hour. It's a way to measure how quickly a car can speed up.
Zero to sixty time measures how quickly a vehicle can accelerate from a complete stop to 60 miles per hour. It's a common performance metric used to evaluate a car's acceleration capabilities.
"Probably revs super high, very automatic transmission. Yeah, I'm looking through the photos that you posted."
An automatic transmission helps you drive without having to change gears yourself. The car does it for you, making driving easier.
An automatic transmission is a type of vehicle transmission that automatically changes the gear ratios as the vehicle moves, allowing the driver to focus on steering and acceleration without manually shifting gears.
"That's because obviously I wasn't there, but I do like the pepperpot wheels on that cabbie. There was a VW cabbie little pickup truck."
The Volkswagen Caddy is a small truck that can carry things. It's useful for work and everyday tasks.
The Volkswagen Caddy is a small utility vehicle that combines the features of a van and a pickup truck. It's known for its practicality and versatility, making it popular for both commercial and personal use.
"...the mandates that are being eliminated and car companies essentially just giving up on their huge electric investments is pretty wild."
Electric vehicle investments are the money car companies spend to make electric cars. Recently, some companies are pulling back on these investments, which shows they're unsure about the future of electric cars.
Electric vehicle investments refer to the significant financial resources that car manufacturers allocate to develop and produce electric cars. Recent trends show some companies are scaling back these investments, indicating uncertainty in the market.
"Like Ford Lightning is just dead. The ID buzz dead after one model year."
The Ford Lightning is an electric truck from Ford. It's designed to be powerful and useful, but it has been discontinued, which shows some difficulties in the electric vehicle market.
The Ford Lightning is an all-electric version of the Ford F-150 pickup truck, known for its performance and utility. Its discontinuation reflects broader challenges in the electric vehicle market.
"The ID buzz dead after one model year. I mean, major investments in this stuff to change the industry really are essentially being abandoned like it's just, it's really unfortunate to in some ways though."
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an electric van that looks like the old VW buses. It didn't last long in production, which suggests it faced issues in the market.
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz is an electric van inspired by the classic VW Microbus. Its short production run indicates challenges in the electric vehicle segment and market acceptance.
"And if it's a hybrid or what have you, like that's, that's great. And I want great, you know, fuel economy."
A hybrid car uses both a gas engine and an electric motor. This helps it save fuel and produce less pollution than regular cars that only use gas.
A hybrid vehicle combines an internal combustion engine (ICE) with an electric motor to improve fuel efficiency and reduce emissions. This technology allows for better fuel economy compared to traditional gasoline-only vehicles.
"And I want great, you know, fuel economy. I'm just really concerned for the automotive and the American automotive industry..."
Fuel economy is how far a car can go on a certain amount of gas. If a car has good fuel economy, it means it doesn't use much gas to drive a long distance.
Fuel economy refers to the distance a vehicle can travel per unit of fuel consumed, typically measured in miles per gallon (MPG). Higher fuel economy means a vehicle uses less fuel for the same distance, which is more efficient and cost-effective.
"... standpoint. I mean, even the Kendrick Lamar like Grand National thing blew up, you know, like that's massive. So..."
The Buick Grand National is a classic car from the 1980s that people love because it’s fast and has a cool look. It’s special because it was one of the powerful cars of its time, and many people remember it fondly. It’s often talked about in car culture and music.
The Buick Grand National is a high-performance version of the Buick Regal, produced in the 1980s, known for its turbocharged V6 engine and sporty design. It has become a classic among car enthusiasts, particularly for its role in the muscle car era and its cultural significance in music and media. The Grand National is often discussed for its performance capabilities and nostalgic value.
"gatherings? If so, what kind? We've got a Subaru guy and an electric car guy in the group. So I have the same conversation. Like my uncle has a Mercedes wagon, like a newer e-class, and we have the same conversation about it like every time. Oh, really? It's just like,"
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a fancy car that many people like because it’s comfortable and has lots of cool features. It’s often used by business people or families who want a nice ride. People talk about it because it represents luxury and style.
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a line of executive cars known for their luxury, performance, and advanced technology. It has been a significant model in the Mercedes lineup since its introduction in the 1990s, often praised for its comfort and safety features. Discussions around the E-Class often highlight its blend of sophistication and practicality, making it a popular choice for both personal and business use.
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Welcome to Driving on Awesome.
My name is Warren.
I'm Lane.
I'm Bart.
And this is your special New Year.
Now I can say happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Lane's been waiting for a long time.
2026.
We started this podcast in 2014.
That's sad.
It's almost over, folks.
Don't worry.
12.
Almost 12 years.
2026.
It doesn't sound as weird as 2025 for some reason.
Any thoughts on that?
No.
It feels the same to me.
Same.
Same.
OK.
Why 20?
Why is that?
I don't know.
Round number 2025 just seemed like a more of a monumental year.
2026 is the 250th birth of the country.
That's correct.
Spirit of 76.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it doesn't sound.
I mean, the year doesn't really sound that monumental to me.
I mean, this is what you just mentioned,
but I feel like 2030 feels like the future still.
Yes.
You know, 2030.
That's only a few years away.
We'll definitely be in flying cars by 2030, that's for sure.
All of them.
MagLab, right?
Everything will be different, you know, not.
When was the fifth element?
No, that was way out there, like 3000 or something, right?
Oh, good question.
Let me look it up.
I just thought about it.
Has this been, I'm sure this has been talked about.
Is Donald Trump Biff?
When he was president?
Well, the Biff was inspired by Donald Trump.
And Biff, and oh, wow, he was, right?
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
That's crazy.
So here we go a little DLA trivia for you.
It was in blank year.
So I'll tell you this much.
It wasn't in the 3000s.
It was in the year 2000 something.
Fifth element.
2000, 300.
That's a good guess.
Oh, am I supposed to guess?
Yeah, fifth element.
When did it take place?
2100.
Not too bad, didn't you?
2263.
2263, yeah, very close.
So that's when we're going to fly.
That could happen.
If they get some sort of power source energy breakthrough
that really changes everything there,
that's the only way that some crazy shit's going to happen.
Current setup.
Well, it's like the most importantly,
there needs to be a real need, right?
Like that's like how essential is that?
Well, yeah, getting a new energy source
is a change everything, right?
Yeah, but like, yeah, having, I guess, yeah,
we're trying to alleviate congestion
and like immediacy from place to place.
But how is like, it's such a big,
I feel like it's so risky, right?
Like in a dense area like that,
that's like the big thing, but yeah.
How do you do traffic control?
Well, the things are all talk to each other.
It's an AI thing, right?
Where they like, it's like way mode times 10,
but in the air and I mean, they're all communicating.
Yeah, but can they, can we even physically like make
something like move or like have control at that height?
And with engines and whatever, like and be small,
like how are you doing that?
I guess it's like whole new form of energy.
But I mean, I'm not even my energy,
I'm talking about moving the wind and air
and keeping the thing up.
Energy. Energy, but like, what's the physical part of it?
Like there has to be a physical part
that makes that thing float, right?
Does there?
Yes, it's not just energy.
You don't know.
Like we have propellers we have, what are we using?
Like they can do that.
It could be dark matter.
Cause you see these like flying cars, quote unquote,
and they're like three car lengths wide
and like, you know, they're basically like airplanes.
Like things aren't dark matter.
Okay, dark matter.
Got you.
Never mind.
Magnets, lane, nobody knows how they work.
Oh, magnets, that's a good idea, dude.
There's a lot of alien talk these days.
I don't know where you guys land on this subject,
but people are trying to tell me that aliens are,
I've always been here.
They're underwater.
People have been trying to tell you.
They're everywhere, dude.
We're just on Pacific Avenue.
The guy's sitting on the sidewalk, playing a saw.
Will you live with one?
Yeah, my wife.
Really?
Resident?
I think she's an alien.
What, what gives her away?
She's just like, she's like missing weird things
in the world, like hasn't seen them and stuff, you know?
Doesn't know about them.
Like, like facts or like news.
What are you just like?
Yeah, like she was like missing a part.
I'm like, how did that not cross your path, you know?
Missing a part.
You know, you just kind of like, it's like someone
that was like dropped here from out of nowhere.
And you're like, oh yeah, you remember that movie
or whatever.
You don't remember that.
Pop culture.
Pop culture kind of stuff.
Gotcha.
I don't know if that's alien, alien worthy.
Oh, I think yeah, you need more like it's like a tick
where like her skin glitches and it turns blue for a second
and then turns around like scales kind of ruffle back
and forth for a second or maybe like the sideways, you know,
the additional eyelid thing.
That's a give away.
Dead giveaway.
Yeah, the third, the third boob, third boob, total recall.
The something I was told is that they can bend light.
And so you it's always, they're kind of always around.
You can't see them because the light goes around the predator.
Yeah, predator.
So interesting.
Happy New Year, everyone.
Happy New Year, 2026.
Super cool.
I have to give you guys a little story about my truck.
I got new tires from my truck.
Okay, new tires.
New tires.
I think last time I left, I left the episode saying
that I want to get new tires.
They're kind of like not feeling great.
They're kind of just hard.
Oh, there's a Robin outside or something.
Anyways, the tires came.
New BFGritters went to a tire shop in Santa Cruz
that I've used before.
They've gone through new management,
but they're very well known.
I'm not going to mention their name
because I have to go back there.
So classic.
We're not busy.
Bring it on in 9 a.m. on Tuesday, we gotcha.
Or wait for five hours.
Yeah.
And so I'm like, great, I'll go down.
I'll do some last minute Christmas shopping,
wait for it.
They said it'd be done by one.
One o'clock rolls around.
They haven't started it.
One of those classics, right?
It'll be done by 3.30 at the latest for sure.
Holy mackerel.
Call them at 3.30, nothing.
No call.
Call them at five.
Oh man, these wheels are like really hard to balance.
We had to dismount the tire and move it on the wheel.
Yeah.
I go, okay.
And I was going to get an alignment done.
And I'm like, just forget the alignment.
Just get the tires done.
That's fine.
I'll come back to the alignment.
It's dark at this point.
Yeah.
I've waited around all day, went home,
don't have a ride, all those fun stuff.
So I get down there, five o'clock,
they're kind of shuffling about and there's not many cars.
They're just like unorganized, of course,
tire shop style.
And I go, how are we doing?
And he goes, good, except we can't find your keys.
No way.
What the heck is trying to find your keys like what?
So I kind of like walk towards the truck.
It's in the bay still.
I'm like, what the fuck?
And I look and I see they went, white letters out.
Nice.
On top of everything, like I didn't request it at all.
The truck came in, white letters in, dude.
So I'm like, all right, it took seven hours
to mount and balance four tires.
You've mounted them the wrong way.
You lost my keys.
I didn't even know what to say.
I'm like, okay.
So I wait around for a little bit.
They do find the keys, thank God,
because I was already going through like,
it's an old ass remote from Toyota from like 2000.
I'm like, where do I find it?
All this shit.
I'm like, oh my God, get that.
And then I get, so finally get the car.
He's super apologetic and like,
they're like, we'll get you, you know,
come back after the holidays for the alignment
and we'll figure it out.
Just tell him about white letters out thing?
Yeah, I'm like, oh, and like,
as he's told me, you found the keys.
I'm like, well, also you went white letters out.
Like, why did you do that?
And he like, he's like, oh no.
Like just one of those things were some,
the kid that was probably doing the tires,
just in his mind, like let's just go white letters out.
And I didn't say anything,
but also I shouldn't have to.
That's like a special request.
Yeah, for sure.
If the truck comes in with regular tires,
like you don't, anyways, whatever.
I bare minimum just call, right?
But I think it's like, they were already, they were.
Just say, hey, did you want white letters out?
Or no, I don't.
So that was great.
I get to the car, it's dark, mind you.
And there is, I don't know,
oil, grease smudges all over the truck.
Like I can show you laying the door handle,
my truck's white, just didn't wear gloves or anything.
Like gear shift lever, steering wheel, light switch.
Or wore gloves and didn't take them off.
All of the above.
The gloves hold the oil typically,
like unless it's really bad, like those,
the gloves are pretty good about keeping it on the glove.
Dude, such a bad experience, like all up and down.
And I'm a bad customer because I've been in this world.
So I like, I see everything, but at the same time,
if you're just a regular person,
you get into your like, you know, your mom's white car.
You have your white pants on?
Yeah, there's two.
And so I put a towel down on my seat when I left the truck
because I knew, I just know it's happened to me several times.
And my truck isn't like a show car,
but at the same time it's cloth seats.
And so I put a towel down, the towel is like brown from it.
Like, so it would have just fucked the car up.
Yeah.
No, just zero awareness.
And like, I don't even know if it's worth saying anything
because they're obviously so clueless.
You're like, nothing's good is going to come up.
Yeah, what's going to come from you doing that?
Right.
Besides being an asshole and like, they have other,
they're probably like literally wheels are falling off.
And then the nice, just the like cherry on top of it all.
No, all of the valve stem caps are missing.
What the hell?
Dude.
No, I think there's one.
Three, three out of four are missing, just gone.
And like, okay.
And by the way, they have like a shit like a handful,
you know, they have unlimited supply basket of this is just
not zero awareness.
Yeah, and you're going to go back.
You said so I had to get the fricking tires flipped.
He asked him flip, dude.
Oh my gosh.
Well, I mean, they, I mean, yeah, at this point,
like, I mean, everything that you said,
I almost would want to refund.
I mean, I hope that they're not charging you for that.
That's such because I mean, that's your time.
No, no, they won't charge, but like they won't charge me for it.
I would go somewhere else to honestly,
but I think it's a hundred bucks.
But that's like a hundred bucks like, you know, I would not.
I mean, what does that alignment look like?
Like, look at all that.
I'm not doing the alignment there.
That's like so such a crucial thing, right?
You don't want them.
I'm not doing the alignment there after this experience.
Like I was also like the sway bar end links are kind of blown
out a little bit.
And so I was thinking, I'm like, well,
they're going to be under there.
That's a pretty quick job.
Like, you know, that's maybe I'll just have them do that too.
And I'm so glad.
I'm really glad, honestly, that I stopped the alignment
because I think the truck would have crashed on my way home.
Quick note on the tires, though.
Man, it's like magic carpet ride.
Oh, really?
I had, yeah.
Same tires?
No, no, they're different.
These are the trail terrain.
So they're like not as aggressive level down.
Yeah, they're like significantly lighter.
You were saying?
Yeah.
I think they're like, I can't remember how much lighter they are,
but they're just so much smoother.
There is a noticeable tire noise from those KO twos and they were old.
Oh, and so the tire, the date code on the outside, I'm looking,
I'm looking for it, nothing like what the fuck?
And I'm looking on the internet like, is that the date code?
You know, because there's all sorts of numbers.
Art knows you guys know all this shit.
Yeah.
None of it, none of it matched up to a BF goodness to date code.
The tire code was on the inside of the tire.
Oh, so I got under the truck and looked 10 years old.
What?
Brand new?
No, no, no.
The old, oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, got you.
Oh, I thought, I thought the new ones put on reach.
I've heard some stories of five year old tires being sold as new.
No, I looked at those.
Those are, those are new.
They're tire.
Oh, well, yeah.
They're young at 10 years old.
Super hard rubber, hard crusty rubber fatigue.
I don't even know if all off-road tires can heat cycle,
but like these are not doing anything.
They're just plasticky.
Yeah, that's right.
I can see that.
That's what you were saying.
Like they were kind of like stepping out and stuff.
Like that's normally, I mean, those, those have like, they're pretty like
knobby, right?
Like they can get down in through the water and stuff.
So these also have way more siping in the tread for water and and it's still
so yeah, dude, that's the new ones.
It's such a perfect tire for what you do.
It looks great.
It's going to be plenty fine for, you know, your minimal off-road duties.
No, no, no, 100%.
I'm trying to find a way differences between these two
because I know KO twos are notorious for being tanks, right?
They're yeah.
And then now they make a KO three, which are even more insane.
They're so heavy though.
They're just beef.
Like it's one thing if you lived on a gravel road or something, or you like,
we're doing that a lot, but.
And they also have like no grip on the, on asphalt.
That right.
And so 99.9% of my driving is on road.
And then on top of that, I'm driving highway 17 and.
Like I drove Rick's 9 11 with KO twos.
Oh yeah.
And they're brand new, brand new and like on a normal road, like with a, you know,
normal three, two Carrera, 220 horsepower.
You just like give it gas and second gear and the thing would get like.
Go all out of the way.
Yeah, right.
Right.
No grip.
Like that's how little grip they have.
I know.
So that's my saga.
I'll update people on it.
Just this is where my head went.
My mind went was like, I'm taking it to a tire shop.
They only do all they do.
Yeah, how could this be?
How could this go any other way?
But we got it done.
It only took two hours.
Valsum, like the cap's on is crazy, dude, crazy, like at a tire shop.
I just noticed that this morning because it was dark last night, like every
babe probably has a fucking box of them.
You know, just rushed, not thinking that the grease all over the car is like.
Yeah, that's what the fuck dude.
That's like one on one, right?
It's insane.
I had the experience.
Like if anyone goes over the nice car, like you'd be so bad.
Yeah.
Imagine you have like a brand new car with like a light, light interior or
something on, you know, a new Lexus LC or something.
They are, yeah, it's really bad.
I mean, I'll probably mention something is like, Hey, just so you know, like,
yeah, this might not do anything, but you know, the car was covered in grease.
Like, yeah, I literally have a towel that I was like wiping the steering wheel
down and it's brown.
Yeah, yeah, like that is not a good experience for anybody.
So anyways, that was, that's this tire.
And I feel like I've had a lot of losses on the parts and like project stuff.
Um, just like, uh, I got these door panels from go Westie for the interior.
And then I finally took the box apart and looked at it and they were like
shipped together.
Um, so I had to like clip them all apart and look at them.
And there are two different panels that it's two different batches.
The back of them are different colors.
The front's fine.
It'll, you won't really notice, but they were definitely done at different times.
And so I emailed them and I said, Hey, is this right?
Like this is sold as a set.
I'm just making sure.
And also the hardware game was black for a gray set and the guy was nice enough.
But at the end, he's like, can you send me pictures?
And I did.
And I'm like, yeah, look at like, they're totally different.
This one has a cut out for this.
This one doesn't this, this is like this.
This one's not like, I can make it work, but is this right?
And he's like, Oh, that's weird.
Well, at least no one will notice.
Oh, okay.
And you're like, all right.
I mean, yeah, I guess no one will notice.
I just spent a lot of money with you guys.
And if you're selling a set that's matching and they don't match, like,
what are you selling?
Like, I don't know.
Maybe I'm just being too particular, but they weren't the same.
So anyways, it's been a little bit of a head scratcher these days, you know?
And I don't really know why they would be different.
Like I'll show you pictures, but they are solid, like plastic.
That's the inside of the doors.
Oh, weird.
And also the edges, the outside is the same, but the edges are different too.
Like the way they're finished or what?
Like the plastic they used on the inside is different.
Well, that's weird because that's exposed.
That's going to be exposed on the edges.
Like you won't look from one door to the other notice, but it's just a little
bit of a weird, totally different material.
And it would almost feel like they could say, like, oh shoot, like, would you
like to return it?
And I probably wouldn't.
I'll probably just go, no, it's fine.
I don't want to deal with returning it because it's a pain in the ass.
But yeah, but it was just like not a great experience.
Yeah, they should have just lied to you and said, oh, that's how we define
right versus left.
Right.
Yeah, that's been great, but that's the outside.
Like that's what you'll start going back to the truck.
Real quick, yeah, I would check the torque on your lug nuts.
I know like seriously everything that you said is just so amateur and so
fucking like just they blew it on everything.
Like I would, I would be concerned about that.
Right.
Like I don't know.
I need to look at on it.
Obviously they were completely disorganized and no one knew what they
were like, you know, who was doing what and all that.
His excuse to me was that they had people call out sick.
It is, you know, Christmas week.
It's Monday though.
Christmas is until Thursday.
So, you know, there's it's not like it's fucking Christmas Eve here.
And then he blamed it on they were dead when I made the appointment and
dropped it off and then people can make online appointments without their
knowledge, not their knowledge.
So they this is like the year fucking coffee shop thing.
No, you're like so and like all the people making the online or there's two
different systems.
So when you go to Starbucks, there's they don't they have like it's not like
online people don't cut in front of people that are there.
Like so it they're they're doing it simultaneously, right?
So I mean, you only have three people working.
They're definitely cutting involved.
I don't know what's going on.
But yeah, it was funny to me that they could someone could go online and
make an appointment, even if you're too busy.
That doesn't make sense.
So I don't know what that yeah, they don't like it should all be on the same
network and the blocked off time should be blocked off, right?
They should have a great out areas or whatever.
Or it should come through to the manager and say, like, do you
approve this appointment?
Yes or no.
And then it doesn't let the person know that's making it right.
That's been a right.
But like in your case, let's say you said you have an appointment at one PM.
If if I go online and make an appointment after yours is already locked in,
like technically they're they don't have priority over yours.
Like that's that's it seems like sure.
Internally, they're blown internally.
I mean, that's all there is to it.
It's no matter how many cars you have.
And yeah, it's not good.
And definitely I will let everyone know how this saga ends.
And then I will do it.
Yeah, it's sorry to hear, man.
That's extremely frustrating.
Um, and I know, I mean, there's, there aren't a lot of tire players in town
there, but hopefully the alternatives are better.
There are some, there are some, I could have just gone to the big O tires
down the street from here that would have been fine.
And I'm sure whatever it's, this is all.
You just don't think about it when you're like, that's all you do, right?
Tires, tires and alignment.
That's like what you do all day long every day.
And he also told me when I dropped the truck off, he's like, oh man,
those Toyotas are hard to align.
I was like, what's like half the cars and Santa Cruz or Toyotas Toyota trucks.
So I have to imagine they do it every day.
But apparently they're difficult.
They're so finesse, you know, it's like little,
dude, there's very precise machines, you know, those have big old Toyota trucks.
So, um, Sebrat motors, dude, we did it, it didn't rain, dude, it didn't rain.
Well, it started off looking very rainy and it never really rained.
No, it never rained.
It was just heavy, heavy fog dude.
I had puddles all over my, my neighborhood.
I mean, we did too, but it wasn't raining, but it wasn't raining.
No, it never rained heavy mist and it definitely never rained during the show
hours, like from 12 to four.
I'm so stoked on that because I was really envisioning just being in the van,
like going, well, I mean, we probably would have just like took off and one
showed up, yeah, we would have just left.
I mean, I was, I was stoked on the turnout, considering the threat.
Yeah, right?
Like because even with the threat that, that cuts your audience in half really.
It's like, like there's so many people are like, oh, I'm like, I'm just not doing
that. It says it's going to be pouring all day.
Yeah.
And that's exactly what happened.
Yeah.
But I think we had a good turnout.
We had a great turnout.
That was, that was fun.
Everyone was very complimentary of it too.
Lane, I know Lane for the listeners put all the work into it and his brother
Shane and uh, both live in the hood.
So that's, that makes sense, right?
But uh, it was cool and it made me like kind of made me think about other spots
we could do this at where it's a little bit more off the cuff.
Yeah.
It reminded me actually of our old Davenport days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
That was the vibe because you have the restaurant in the, you have the stuff
right there that you can go to and the lot was a little bit like kind of
unorganized, which is kind of what made it feel.
Yeah.
And you park on the street and stuff like that.
Um, and like, yeah.
And like Davenport days, people parking a lot next door.
Totally.
Uh, yeah.
It had a lot of that.
Um, yeah, I think, I think the restaurants appreciated it.
Um, I'm just glad like people did come.
So there was people in restaurants and stuff.
And like we went, like Warren, I went to Brady's yacht club.
Um, we had to show like our friend as a slip in the harbor.
So we were able to get in.
Um, and uh, we were there and there was like random people, you know, like when
I was leaving the guys like, Hey, thanks for putting this on, you know,
that's some, some, you know, guy.
And yeah, it was like people were going to the businesses, which is what and
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