SwitchCast Jan 19, 2026

How Much Did We Spend on Maintenance Last Year?

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Lamborghini Urus

The Lamborghini Urus is a fancy SUV made by Lamborghini. It has a strong engine and looks very stylish, making it a popular choice for those who want a luxury vehicle that can also handle different terrains.

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Lamborghini Diablo

The Lamborghini Diablo SV is a special version of the Diablo sports car, famous for its speed and unique looks. It's considered a dream car by many car enthusiasts.

Company

Shaughnessy Overland Express

Shaughnessy Overland Express is a company that helps transport cars, especially expensive or rare ones. They make sure to take good care of the vehicles while moving them.

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Chevrolet Express

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Alfa Romeo Giulia

The Alfa Romeo Giulia is a stylish car that offers a fun driving experience. It's known for its good looks and sporty feel, making it a popular choice among car enthusiasts.

Term

cost per mile

Cost per mile tells you how much money you spend for every mile you drive your car. It helps you understand if your car is expensive to maintain or not.

Brand

Stellantis

Stellantis is a big car company that makes many different brands of vehicles, like Chrysler and Jeep. It was created when two companies joined together.

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manual transmission

A manual transmission is a way to change gears in a car by using a stick and a pedal. It gives the driver more control over how the car drives compared to automatic transmissions.

Car

Volvo V50

The Volvo V50 is a small wagon that offers a lot of space for passengers and cargo. It's known for being safe and reliable, making it a good choice for everyday driving.

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five cylinders

A five-cylinder engine is an engine that has five small chambers where fuel and air mix and burn to create power. It's less common than four or six-cylinder engines but can offer a good mix of power and fuel efficiency.

Term

suspension

The suspension is what helps your car ride smoothly over bumps and turns. It keeps the wheels in contact with the road.

Term

Swedish reliability

Swedish reliability means that cars made in Sweden, like Volvo and Saab, are known for being very dependable and lasting a long time without major issues.

Car

Mercedes-Benz 560SEL

The Mercedes-Benz 560SEL is a large luxury car made in 1987. It's known for being very reliable and comfortable to drive.

Term

maintenance costs

Maintenance costs are the money you spend to keep a car running well, like oil changes and fixing things when they break.

Part

alternator belt

The alternator belt is a part of the car that helps the engine generate electricity. It connects the engine to the alternator, which keeps the battery charged and powers things like the radio and lights.

Term

bore scoring

Bore scoring is when the inside of an engine gets scratched or damaged, which can cause problems with how the engine works.

Car

BMW E63

Car

2015 Mercedes E63 wagon

The 2015 Mercedes E63 wagon is a fast and fancy car that has a lot of space and comfort.

Term

5.5 liter bi-turbo M197

The M197 is a type of engine made by Mercedes-Benz. It's a big V8 engine that uses two turbochargers to help it produce a lot of power, which is great for fast cars.

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snow tires

Snow tires are special tires made for driving in winter conditions, like snow and ice. They help your car grip the road better when it's cold and slippery. The speaker mentions needing to buy them for their car.

Car

Ford Excursion

The Ford Excursion is a big SUV that Ford made a few years ago. It's known for being very roomy and having strong engines, which makes it good for towing things.

Term

7.3 liter

The 7.3-liter is a measurement of how big the engine is. Bigger engines usually have more power and can tow heavier things.

Car

Fiat 600D

The Fiat 600D is a small car made by the Italian company Fiat. It's known for being easy to drive and park in cities.

Part

oil change

An oil change is when you replace the old oil in a car's engine with new oil. This helps keep the engine running smoothly.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

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Porsche 911

Car

Mercedes E350

The Mercedes E350 is a comfortable and stylish car that is part of the Mercedes-Benz E-Class lineup. It's known for being reliable and has a good balance of performance and luxury features.

Part

water pump

The water pump helps keep the engine cool by moving coolant around. If it breaks, the engine can get too hot and cause serious problems.

Part

coolant

Coolant is a special liquid that helps keep the engine from getting too hot. It moves through the engine and absorbs heat, preventing overheating.

Part

passenger door switch

The passenger door switch is what you use to control the windows and locks on the passenger side. If it breaks, you might have trouble opening or closing the window.

Part

Bilstein B6

Bilstein B6 struts are special parts that help your car handle better and ride smoother, especially when driving fast or on rough roads.

Car

Lotus Exige

The Lotus Exige is a small, fast sports car that is very light and built for speed. It's popular among people who love to drive on race tracks.

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Toyota Land Cruiser

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Jaguar XJ220

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Ferrari 430

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Aston Martin V8 Vantage

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Audi RS2

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Chevrolet Camaro

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Porsche Panamera

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Cadillac Escalade

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Nissan Rogue

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Nissan Murano

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Ford Taurus

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Ford Fusion

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Mercedes-Benz Cclass

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Audi A4

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Ford Mustang

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Cadillac Ctsv

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Ford Thunderbird

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Lamborghini Huracan

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Dodge Charger

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Welcome back to Switchcast Season 6. I'm your host Doug Tabott here with my co-host Tyler

Sanders and a bonus co-host for this episode, Dan Doucette.

Woo!

Usually our technical advisor, but now Dan's...

Is this Dan's first time on camera?

I don't think so, no.

Okay.

No. Not first time on mic, but definitely, yeah. Anyway, Switchcast is a podcast where

we know what we're talking about despite evidence to the contrary. Dan is excluded from that.

He has a Facebook page dedicated to him knowing more than other people, so there's plenty

of proof texts for him.

But I did not create.

Sure.

That's a good asterisk about you. You're like, I didn't make this. It's not me.

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whatever. Let's get warmed up. Just like when you're out on the track, you should take a

warm up lap to get your tires and fluids and everything up to temperature. We need to get

our fluids up to temperature as well. Okay, vocal cords, all that. Yeah, gotta check yourself

so you don't wreck yourself. So, we'll start out. What is fueling this podcast? Tyler?

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I would be the proof-determined proof-taster. Yes. Any other night. That is my special

talent. I can tell how much proof is in whiskey. This is 130.2. I bet I would guess that correctly.

That's not the hottest one here. Ouch. You and Dan like it hot. Anyway, yeah, I'm not

participating. I'm doing not dry January, like some people. Ethan, our producer, is

sort of doing dry weekday January. I'm doing soft 30, which is my own made up version of

hard 75 because hard 75 is too extreme. It's like for crossfitters.

Okay. Well, and we'd know if you were into crossfit because you would have told us by

now. Oh my gosh, if you meet a crossfitting vegan who drives a Tesla, how do they figure

out what they want to talk about? That's a harder decision than I think any decision

I've made in my life. Yeah, so I was reminded by multiple people, including listeners, watchers

on the YouTube video and somebody who is a party to the story that I absolutely utterly

failed at storytelling a couple episodes ago when we were talking about the cash flow crunch

that a whole bunch of people put me in because nobody was paying me when they were supposed

to and the straw that proverbial straw that broke the camel's back was a deal that I wasn't

even supposed to put money up for. But I, you know, Lamborghini Urus that I ended up

fronting the money because I thought it'd be for one day and it ended up being for two

weeks. Well, I got so lost in the weeds that I never finished the story. There was no punch

line to this 15 minute story. It was a long walk for the sake of going on a long walk

to get lost. Yeah, I guess so. Where are we? We're, I don't know, we're five kilometers

from the office. That deep reference there. Anyway, so here's to quote as Paul Harvey

would say the rest of the story. So this Lamborghini Urus I paid for was supposed to get paid by

the buyer for whom I brokered the deal. Why are we supposed to come didn't come? Why are

we supposed to come the next day didn't come? And finally, I'm like, screw this, I'm going

to sell it to somebody else. Well, that was the day before Thanksgiving. So I figured

well, they're not going to get a check out and it was a it's a company that I know that

doesn't do wire transfers, they only issue checks. So at least I knew that like, okay,

well, I'll get a check on Monday, because it's the day before Thanksgiving, nobody's

doing anything. Well, the office person wasn't in on Black Friday either. So Monday rolls

around. This is now more than a week since I've put out the money for this car. Monday

rolls around. Yep, we'll send out the check today overnight. You'll have it tomorrow.

Great. I'll have funds in my account Wednesday. Well, the office manager forgot to send out

the check. Ah, so my contact at the dealer went and got the check personally on Tuesday

and dropped it off at UPS sent me tracking drop off receipt like your checks on the way

I'm like, All right. Finally. Well, doesn't show up the next day. Doesn't show up the

following day. I track it. It's delayed due to weather. Oh my. And now we did have a crazy

snowstorm ice storm whatever on that Tuesday. But Wednesday when it was supposed to arrive

was totally clear it's sitting in Cleveland. I'm going what what weather? What extreme weather

is delaying this and it said it was delayed by 24 hours. Well, three days later, I still

didn't have it. No update. They couldn't tell me anything. So they sent me another check

FedEx, which beat the UPS check there. The UPS check ended up finally showing up. But

it was like this comedy of errors of, Okay, well, I sold it to somebody else because the

first guy didn't pay me and I just wanted it to be done with. And then finally, like

after a whole another week, I finally get a check while two checks, but obviously I couldn't

cash the second one. Man, that's like Charles Harris type activity right there. Anyway, so

yeah, there's there's the punchline to the story that I totally forgot. I have a gift

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either. Should I? Oh, look at this. It's beautiful. The yellow Diablo SV with the black

script is like an ultimate dream car of mine. I'm not and I'm not even a huge Lamborghini

guy. Yeah, I think his AOL handle is even 98 Diablo SV. So you want if you want to

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It is January, which means it is time for the spreadsheet review. Yearly ownership costs of

our high maintenance often vehicles. What did they cost to own? What does it cost to daily drive

pseudo performance cars? What does it cost to just have them at all? What's the cost per mile?

Dan, I think, started this at least within our group. He's Mr. Spreadsheet. I might say he's a

freak in the sheets. I picked it up a couple years ago. Tyler, I think you've been doing it for a

while. We're going to compare and talk about what it really costs to own and live with some of

these cars. None of them for us are garage queens, although if you look at our yearly mileage on a

few of them, maybe they seem like it. We're not cheating here. There's unintentional garage

queens, too. Accidental garage queens. Correct. The rules are, you can disagree with this. You

can agree with it. I don't really care. These are our rules. We are purely looking at maintenance

costs because that is the big variable. Gas is gas. Insurance is insurance. We don't look at

depreciation. We're purely looking at how expensive is it to keep these cars going on the road

because that is, in my mind, the largest variable from car to car. I think that's the data point

that is going to be most useful to folks because you can spend money on modifications and stuff

like that, but that doesn't really always go into maintenance. That could be a blurry line at some

point, but knowing how much it takes to truly daily or use these cars and fix what needs fixing

is why I started tracking this money. I also wanted to make sure I kept myself level-headed

and this is how much you're spending, Tyler, on these cars. It better be worth it.

Right. But I love this segment because it gives me an excuse to use the data.

Yes. A lot of flipping this year. I sold three and bought one.

Nice.

Yes. Right. Dan, let's start off with you. You had an alpha. You have an alpha. Julia.

Drove it tonight.

Yep. Last year, you surprised us with incredibly low maintenance costs.

Yeah, that's not happening again.

Against the stereotype. I feel like we've been justified at your expense.

Doug has been so excited for this, Dan. He's been waiting.

Ooh. So, Dan, last year your alpha cost you how much per mile?

I have overall numbers too. I have this past year and overall. So, this past year...

Well, sorry, not last year. 2024, what was it when it was so low?

Oh, it was... Let me see what that would be. I don't have that number handy from two years ago.

All right. What was it?

You've got to come prepared with your sheets, Dan.

It was like five cents a mile. I know the first was crazy low.

I know 2023 and 2024 were very similar and it was hovering roughly around

probably 10 cents a mile, maybe a little less.

That's amazing.

With a lot of candy.

A lot of miles.

So, how about this last year?

Well, all was fine and dandy until October hit and I ended up...

Doug is like beaming right now.

Well, wait till you get to mine.

Yeah. I put 13,400 or so miles on the Julia and it cost me $4,398.

That did include tires too, but taking out the tires there was still a hefty amount.

That's maintenance still.

All right. So, cost per mile this year for the alpha?

33 cents a mile.

Dang it.

Okay. You still went.

Moving on.

Tyler, I want you to feel more pain for daily driving a Stalantis product.

Yeah. We'll see my overall since I've owned the car since I bought it in May of 23.

I put a lot of miles on it and it's at 15 cents a mile overall.

That's amazing.

This is also the guy that drove a Bengal era.

BMW is a daily driver.

For like 12 years.

300,000 miles at like 3 cents a mile.

I think it ended up around 11 cents a mile.

That's the same difference.

That's a rounding error in my words.

Okay. Tyler.

Are we doing dailies first?

Let's do dailies first.

So, I daily a 2010 Volvo V50 station wagon with a manual transmission and five cylinders of

deliciousness and every year it costs me about $3,000 without fail.

How many miles?

So, I put 5,200 miles on it this year, 5,266, and I spent $3,498.

I needed to do a lot of stuff.

And you don't service it at the Volvo dealer.

No, that is with an independent critic.

Now, there is some significant stuff though that I did.

I would hope so.

All new suspension on all four corners.

It has brand new rear calipers.

Every single fluid, including the hall decks and the angle gear and the rear diff have been changed.

And it's got like new front lower control arms, all that kind.

So, it's like, it feels incredible to drive.

But I was clunking and smacking around and then my mechanic was in there and I said,

we'll just do it all.

That's my problem though.

And what I think maybe people didn't understand with the 996 video is I do a lot of while you're

in there stuff.

If it's like you're already got the car on a lift and taken stuff apart, like,

nah, it's another few hundred bucks.

I'd rather just it be better now.

So, those are the kinds of decisions I make.

But I have in total put like 60,000 miles on that Volvo.

And it's cost me 36 cents a mile over like for the entire round.

That's not too bad.

This past year was 66 cents a mile though.

So, yikes.

Your ownership total is doubled by Julia.

Wow.

It is.

Wow.

So much for Swedish reliability.

I would now, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

It has 140,000 miles on it.

I can't wait to see if Dan's Julia even makes it to 140,000.

He's getting there quick at 13,000, 14,000 miles a year.

Oh, and this year was quite low compared to the past two years because it was down for a

month and a half.

Yeah, yeah.

In the way of my wagon.

Let's see.

What did you drive for the down for a month and a half?

And how much did that car cost you per mile this year?

See, that one was actually pretty good.

That was the Mercedes, my old 87 Mercedes 560SEL.

That took up daily driver duty for probably about five weeks.

And honestly, that car was completely bulletproof.

I was worried the whole time.

I mean, I drove it throughout the rest of the year,

occasionally and stuff, more weekend type car.

But, you know, I'm just like fingers crossed that daily driving this thing,

like it's going to hold up and oh yeah, it didn't flinch.

Sweet.

Zero maintenance costs.

What was your only guess what next year is going to be?

Well, last year was expensive for him.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

My maintenance cost for the year on the Mercedes was $11.70.

Perfect.

And that was that's amazing.

That was an alternator belt.

That's nice.

All right.

So my daily driver was a 2007 Porsche 911,

Carrera 4.

I sold it in August for practical reasons.

We'll discuss that in the next segment.

So my maintenance cost was $1,531.

I put in 1983 miles on it.

So my cost per mile was $0.77 per mile.

Not much better than last year.

Last year it was $0.57 a mile.

I actually put 7,000 miles on it last year.

So that's Porsche world right there.

What did you replace it with?

I replaced it, ironically, with another car

that potentially suffers from boar scoring.

2015 Mercedes E63 wagon, one of my favorite engines ever.

But anytime I mention that to a technician that's familiar with them,

they just go, I'm sorry.

I think we've learned that just about any European product,

maybe specifically German product from the mid-2000s,

is just you're going to get more score.

Oh, shoot, it is.

This is one of their best platforms ever.

It's just the 5.5 liter bi-turbo M197, I think it is,

is subject to boar scoring.

So yeah.

Right.

So let's see.

I bought that in September.

I got a one-of-one spec.

I want you to know it's indigo blue with Auburn Designio interior

and no other options.

It's beautiful.

Which is great.

Let's see.

I put 7,000 miles on it since September.

$3,400 in maintenance, 49 cents per mile.

Let's see.

I'm counting purchase of snow tires and wheels,

which I had to do twice because I'm an idiot.

I mounted, so you have four wheels, right?

So when you switch from summer tires to winter tires,

you mount four wheels.

I mounted 16 wheels or 16 times.

I mounted a wheel in order to get my snow tires on.

And guess what?

The ones I have still aren't correct.

They don't fit, but I'm just dealing with the rubbing.

Yeah, no.

That does include the wheel repair,

which I'm still fighting with the Ohio Turnpike Commission for.

It does not include the optional upgrades

like the tune and apple car play and the laser diffusers

that I did right after purchase.

So 49 cents per mile.

I'm improving.

Nice.

In the right direction.

We'll see.

Let's see.

I sold my 7.3 liter Ford excursion.

Maybe one of the biggest mistakes in my life.

But anyway.

Did Dan buy it?

No.

I put 179 miles on it this year,

which is kind of probably why I sold it.

Did zero maintenance and I sold it for what I paid for it.

So money and money out.

Right.

I sold my 1969 Fiat 600D.

I put 47 miles on it this year,

which is I think a record high again why I sold it.

I did zero maintenance because we didn't.

Yeah.

The buyer had an oil change done right after I bought it.

Well, okay.

I did like carb cleaner.

I shouldn't say zero.

I had to.

Yeah.

I had some old gas in there.

So I flushed the gas tank and did carb cleaner.

So whatever 50 bucks.

So I guess a dollar a mile.

That escalated quickly.

Let's see.

And my 98 Corvette.

I did all the service last year.

I put 569 miles on it this year.

That's so sad, Doug.

And like Hank, because I only put 500 miles on it,

I didn't do anything to it.

So my cost per mile was zero.

Nice.

I will flush all the fluids next year.

But yeah.

So not bad on those three.

Oh, no, four.

My 79 911 hot rod.

I put 1,000 miles on that one this year.

I felt like I drive that more.

I like tried to drive that as much as I could.

Also did zero maintenance on it this year.

So that means next year.

Porsche people can freak out if they want to,

but it is stored in a climate controlled garage.

And I'm not going to change the oil.

Just to stink and change the oil.

Some Porsches, if they leak enough,

you never have to change the oil.

It changes itself.

Recurring.

That's a feature, not a bug.

So I had three cars with zero cost per mile.

Not bad.

To compare, my wife's summer daily driver,

2011 Mercedes E350.

I always like doing this to see where we stand.

And she always wins 6,600 miles on it,

$1,800, $1,900 in service,

including fixing a couple of vent rims,

28 cents per mile.

Not bad.

Wolf.

How about your Porsches, Tyler?

You also flopped in and out.

Flipped in it, flipped in and out.

Yes.

So up until about, was this October,

I had a 2003 Porsche 911.

I had, as I'm sure if you listened to the podcast,

I'd been searching for a GT3 for a long time

and didn't really know when the right one was going to pop up.

I had spent countless hours of my life this year

and last year just searching endlessly.

So I maintained this, my 2003 911,

like I was going to keep driving it,

which was unfortunate for me.

It needed a lot of stuff that just happened.

So I had the water pump done because it was just about time.

I had a coolant change because of that.

I had to replace a passenger door switch,

and those were $700 for the module and the door.

Be cheaper if you worked on it yourself

and didn't go to the Porsche dealer.

Oh my God.

No, I go to a great local shop that does well by me.

I did brakes all four corners,

and Bilstein B6 suspended struts all four corners.

So it was, it drove great,

but I spent $6,700 on it in maintenance this year.

And how many miles?

5,100.

Oh, you're over a dollar a mile.

I am at $1.31 a mile in that car for this year.

Man, if you were getting mileage reimbursement for work,

you'd be getting $0.50 on the dollar.

Oh, man.

All right.

So you got a GT3 in it.

I did.

And it's cost you $80 a mile, right?

Because you did everything as soon as you got it

and didn't drive it.

No, because it was practically wintertime.

The typical time of fashion.

I wanted to so bad, Doug.

I was itching.

I was like, what do you mean this?

This oil's been in it for a year.

It needs changes.

Itching.

I put 886 miles on the GT3, including the trip home,

and I put zero in it in maintenance.

So it's at $0 a mile.

But boy, howdy, Doug.

Next year, all of the fluids and new tires and all that,

like, it's next year will be a thing.

Do the miles so then that averages out across for miles.

I plan to drive that so much next year.

I'm so excited.

All right.

Dan, your sports cars, your Lotus Exige was nearly nil

last year, right?

Close to zero.

It was, yeah, just like some tires.

I think each threw tires.

But last year wasn't bad at all.

This year.

I say last year, meaning 2024, the last time we did this.

We are talking about last year, actually, which is 2025.

So yeah, last year, it was around two grand is what I spent on the Lotus.

But this year, I put a bit more miles on it.

I drove about 1,500 miles this year.

And respect.

1,000 bucks.

And most of that was wrapped up in tires.

All right.

66 cents a mile.

73.

I was homeschooled.

Two thirds.

You said 1,015.

No, I was, my quick math was right.

All right.

What else?

You still have the Land Cruiser?

I do.

And, you know, shockingly, it, like, didn't really break this year.

Which is good because it was like five, six grand last year.

Okay.

How many miles?

6,200, which is more than I thought when I was doing the math.

I'm like, wait, I drove it that much.

You drive a lot of miles, Dan.

I'm adding all this stuff up.

Oh, yeah.

What was your total mileage for the year?

It was, I was down this year.

I wonder if he doubled my total.

That's happened often.

This year, I was down to 24,889.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I've never calculated my total because I drive so many dealer cars.

I've like, I've never, I would, I'm curious if I've hit a million lifetime miles,

but there's no way I could ever hope to try to figure that out.

Even if I went through all the cars I've owned and got their mileage.

Yeah.

I did 10,366 miles this year in total.

Oh, that's pretty low.

More than not a lot.

It's pretty low.

More than double you on a loader for me.

I have 11.5 on my spreadsheet, but that includes Aaron's car.

So I have, yeah, I have 5,000 miles on my spreadsheet.

Doug, we need to talk about cars, but I probably put 5,000 miles on her Mazda

because I drive during road trips.

I probably put half the miles on our convertible

and probably put five, 10,000 miles on dealer cars.

So that's all right.

We'll fix your spreadsheet next year.

Okay.

So land cruiser, cost per mile.

One cent.

The only thing was like oil change and a HVAC blower wheel that I did myself.

That's in.

Oh my God.

This guy works on his own cars.

The comments will love it.

I take that back.

I calculated wrong.

My total did not include Aaron's car.

So I put 11.5 on my cars.

Okay.

I thought that was not right.

Right.

So yeah, I probably got 20, some thousand miles on this year as well myself.

Yeah, I feel like that's probably about right for you compared to just how much

I drive versus you just to feel you probably, you're probably in the 20s.

Yep.

Maybe 30s some years.

Oh, for sure.

For sure.

All right.

Do you guys have a total like a,

Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, we forgot the orange beast, the Diablo.

Oh, yes.

Last year.

All right.

I'm just going to sit back.

2024, I took that on a road trip.

I drove it across country.

I put 4,000 miles on a Diablo, which was awesome.

But I also had a lot of things done, including the transmission rebuilt.

So my cost per mile in 2024 was $13.60 per mile.

Ah, so I'm like, all right.

Well, I've done everything.

What could possibly go wrong?

Well, yeah, that it puked a bolt that holds the like camshaft position

sensor, something like that.

And it landed in the cam gear, which made the motor die, obviously.

Thankfully, it got wedged there because if it kept going,

I would need a new camshaft slash that side of the engine potentially rebuilt.

And a camshaft is $12,000 if you can find one.

So thankfully, the entire bill for that, it was still more than that.

I had to do brakes at the same time.

Anyway, $23,446 in service this year.

I only drove at 824 miles.

So my cost per mile went up.

It doubled from last year.

I'm at $28.45 a mile.

That's how much it really costs to drive a Lamborghini.

The problem is I should have calculated the first two years because it was like nothing.

I just did nothing to the car.

That's probably my problem.

And Sierra, here I was going to bring out my old 968 to be like,

wow, I don't, I averaged $1.20 a year in that.

That's got to be insane.

So my overall average is $4.25 per mile this year.

Do I win or do I lose?

Do you think that would go up or down if you had an XJ220 instead?

Uh, well, I would not drive it as much as Diablo for sure.

That's true.

So, but I, yeah, I too.

Yikes.

I should find out.

This is why I like Porsches.

Get an alpha.

This guy.

Get an alpha.

This guy's like the devil on your shoulder or like the Kermit wearing the hood.

Or the other thing is just drive more to help.

Yes, that's right.

So Dan is dangerously close to adding a new one to a stable that we can talk about next year.

Are you ready to reveal it?

Not just yet, but hopefully by the next time I'm on here or in the background,

there's a technical advisor I could maybe share some info.

We're going to find out what Dan's buying for the car challenge,

the car buying challenge that we set up for ourselves three years ago.

And we will do a full episode on that.

We've mentioned it here and there, but we're not going to unpack that.

Now we're going to get to the shrewd negotiator, which I'm pulling up the wrong folder here.

Shrewd negotiator is when somebody is trying just extra hard to buy or sell their car,

squeeze the last dollar out, and it typically ends up being entertaining for the rest of us.

This is an ad I saved years and years ago.

A dealer called Wholesale Import Cars.

I don't even know if they still exist.

Anyway, advertise a 2005 Ferrari 430 Scuderia.

Survey says...

I'm good.

That's not a thing.

Thank you.

Dan Doucette knows more than you.

Transmission manual six speed.

Seller notes.

This car has been brought up to 2009 Scuderia specs.

Note front end treatment.

510 total HP.

This is the nicest 430 Scuderia in the USA, but it's not a Scuderia.

09 Scuderia.

Front bumper and air drum.

Quad Capristo exhaust system.

That's not Scuderia.

Garage stored undercover, never driven in the rain.

Pampered is not the word that describes this perfect automobile.

Pampered is not the word?

It should be.

What?

I don't think they know what they said there.

He keeps it undercover and all that, but oh no, not pampered.

Wait, this gets better.

The Pirelli tires are brand new and mounted on beautiful new Tension 5 three-piece chrome wheels.

High performance six disc Brembo brakes.

Survey says...

So much wrong with this.

Oh boy.

At least it is a six speed manual.

You can tell, okay, so this is...

It's the factory six speed.

Well, this was so long ago that nobody was doing swaps.

It's 160 grand.

For a 430 coupe manual with 7,000 miles on it.

With some ugly rims and a Scuderia front end.

Anyway, oh man, I just...

Trying really, really, really hard on this.

I literally, the only thing they did is a Scuderia front bumper.

That's it.

But it's a...

It's like the nicest Scuderia in the country now.

With six disc Brembo brakes.

So you're really going to stop.

You've got an extra two.

Are they in the trunk?

Or are they adult?

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He set out to develop watches with a high level of quality

and specification and a value price.

His first effort and a successful one on July of 2023

was the debut of the Sheffield all sport diver one.

It had the kind of build and movement

that much more expensive watches use.

And his debut price of $108 was equivalent

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So coming off of our discussion about ownership costs

and how we sold a couple cars that were our special daily drivers,

that maybe we thought we'd keep forever.

The question is, are there forever cars?

Is that a thing?

Yes.

And I kind of had this debate in the comment section

of one of our videos lately.

And I've come to the conclusion that there are no forever cars,

despite what we think.

And I say this with not a caveat,

but like I have the 911 I have, I've had for 10 years,

and I will probably, I would like to never sell it.

I say that I'll never sell it.

And my Corvette Gretchen, my one of one light carmine red,

one year only color with Caravaggio bucket seats,

Bayer Big Breaks 383, Lingenfelter Stroker engine,

six-speed manual Corvette.

This guy hanks.

Like, I'm like, I will never sell that.

And the guy that I bought it from said he would never sell it.

Essentially, like you'll have to pry it quite literally

from my cold, dead hands.

And I asked him, actually, can you put in your will,

not that I get the car, but that I get first right of refusal at market value.

That was how badly I wanted this car.

Well, there were no forever cars,

because he ended up selling it at some point, so I have it.

And I said, if I ever sell this, I've said this to my friends,

do you remember what I said?

Something about like, if this is for sale,

that it's like a cry for help.

Like, I can't pay my bills.

I don't have like, please come rescue me.

Exactly.

But I toyed with the idea of selling the Corvette this year,

because Dan, our technical advisor, sent me a TDF blue,

which is a Ferrari color, but not a Ferrari,

a TDF Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster with Chancellor Red Leather Interior,

six-speed manual, and purely out of space concerns,

because I've just reached a point in my life,

like I won't have too many cars.

I'm like, well, that would fit the six-speed manual V8 convertible

space in my garage.

So I'd sell the Corvette, but it didn't happen,

because Dan waited until it'd been listed three days to send it to me,

even though it was $20,000 below market.

Anyway, not bitter at all.

He's like, oh, I forgot this was your unicorn spec.

Anyway, Dan's defending himself off mic.

Well, they didn't post photos.

Mr. Dan, who has like the build sheets of every car in existence.

I don't really care about the convertibles, though.

Anyway, he's not looking out for his boy.

I know, but I want skin cancer, okay?

So, Ethan, clip it, clip it.

Anyway, let me get a soundboard.

I also thought about selling Maroon 6, not seriously,

but I've always wanted to do an 89 speedster outlaw build.

Would you like actually take a speedster?

Oh, yeah.

And cut it up?

Oh, yeah.

I wouldn't cut it up.

And just do like engine stuff.

I just do suspension.

Yeah, I mean, it already has a 3.2, which is good enough.

Like I have a 3.0 in mind, so like I don't need to go crazy on the engine.

How expensive are the speedsters?

200 plus or minus.

I could buy a bad one for like 150.

I think Greg Hildenbrands is probably worth 125 if he'll ever sell it,

but he never will.

It's his forever car.

Yeah.

Anyway, okay.

So, I have two cars that I say they are forever cars.

And I bought an Audi RS2 Avant thinking that would be my winter forever car

because this is the greatest thing ever made.

All-wheel drive, five-cylinder turbo, Porsche made a wagon essentially.

I had it for a year and sold it.

Then I've had a number of 997s that I'm like,

this is the perfect winter car.

I will have one of these forever.

Sold it, bought an E63 wagon.

And when I got the E63 wagon, I'm like,

this is the perfect daily driver.

It absolutely is.

But I just, I won't have it forever because things will change.

At some point, I will be old enough to shut up that I want a Bentley as a daily driver.

So, I am of the opinion there may be long-term cars,

maybe for the Corvette Kermudgen.

He bought it brand new, took museum delivery, he'll die with it.

Okay, maybe.

That's one exception.

But short of that exception, there's no such thing as a forever car.

I, okay.

So, I used to think that my old 996 was a forever car.

I had this romanticized thought about how I will always keep my first Porsche,

my first 911 because it's something that I had dreamed about for so long.

And then the gears started turning and I was like,

well, I want this car, but better.

And that's how I got on the GT3 train.

However, I feel like certain cars can be forever cars.

Is your GT3 a forever car?

It might be, maybe.

I don't know yet, but I think the formula that is the GT3,

in that it has a legendary engine, it's extremely driver focused,

it represents, in my opinion, an awesome time at Porsche in the history of their brand.

That is something that will never be made again,

and you can't experience in anything else other than maybe a 997.

So, from that perspective of this experience,

represents a point in time that I'm highly nostalgic for,

that I think they made the best cars with an engine that is legendary,

that I've been dreaming of for a long time.

Like, yeah, that formula is forever car formula.

What am I going to possibly replace that with?

If I got a 997, it wouldn't be as like, wrong, driver focused,

because people argue between 997 and 996 GT3s.

I could get an air-cooled car, but it's going to be less,

folk, it's going to be less intense.

Like, that's why I didn't...

You could get a not Porsche.

If I look at the amount of money that I, that the GT3 is,

I don't know if I want anything more than a Porsche.

Okay.

I could get a Ferrari.

You're getting married this year, right?

Yes.

100%.

Fiancé told me I had to buy, the car came before the wedding.

Does she like riding in the car?

Because it's kind of droney.

At the, iffy now, but that will be fixed because the exhaust is booty.

The exhaust sucks.

Okay.

So you're fixing that problem.

All right.

That is the only thing that she has said is like iffy, but otherwise.

Do y'all plan to have kids?

At some point.

Ah, your car doesn't have back seats.

I don't need to take the kids in that until they're big enough to sit in the front.

But wouldn't you want to share that with them?

It's like 11 years old until they can sit in the front.

Or I will need some respite from the chaos of modern life and that will be my meditation

is behind the wheel of my GT3.

You see where I'm going with this though.

It's your, your use case as your life changes, your use case changes and or narrows.

Sure, but that experience is something I will always want.

I'm not going to replace that with a Ferrari and can't take kids in a Ferrari either.

No, but you might afford a Lamborghini 9 11 with back seats.

I'll have other cars with back seats.

What about when your knees go out

and you can't push that heavy, unassisted, mechanical, frigging clutch

that we will have the technology that I'll just get new ones slapped in.

I'm going to be a, I'm going to be a, it's going to be like Lego bricks.

Just put them together.

We'll be fine.

Okay.

All right.

All I'm saying is situations change, life changes, your use cases change that like

the reason I went to an E 63 wagon from a 997 is I looked at what going,

the 997 is the perfect daily driver winner car for a car guy.

It is bonkers fun in the snow.

My wife doesn't like riding in it because it's too stiff and droney,

which like for any of my sports cars, okay, it's a bummer that she doesn't necessarily

like riding in them, but whatever they're, I put 500,000 miles on them a year,

but like a road trip car, my daily driver, she's got to enjoy.

I don't want her to not like riding in it.

My dog doesn't like riding in it because he can't get in like squeeze in the back seat.

My kid's getting just big enough that if he and my wife are in the car, like it's just too small.

I can't fit my drums in there.

I looked at it and went, this is ridiculous that it is zero practicality for all of my

other use cases in life and hence I went to the wagon.

But I, so, okay, do you think that you will always have a 9-11?

Maybe.

Because I am not a Porsche like a Porscheist, but I think like if you

click the zoom out a little bit, that maybe it's not this specific car.

For some people, it might be this specific car.

They have nostalgia or history or it could be their dads that they will want to, you know,

whatever, that could be a separate situation.

But the idea of a 9-11 is something you will probably always have.

Probably, yeah.

They made so many good ones and I love a 997 GT3 RS.

I love to do a Speedster Outlaw.

There's a lot of air-cooled cars like that particular driving experience is something

like I like a collection of varied driving experiences.

I don't want duplicates of anything.

I'll never have two air-cooled cars and even having two 9-11s was like

it's not enough diversity.

I need some more DEI in my car collection.

So, but I think the 9-11 as an idea, as there's some philosophers,

I think the Greek Plato or some Aristotle maybe had like the idea of something.

I forget there's a word for it, but what is a 9-11 is something you will always have.

Probably.

You'll move on from Maroon 6 into something else.

So, I think that is a forever car in a different kind of sense.

I think I'll always have a 9-11.

I will probably have other things.

I enjoyed the Corvette.

There's other brands of cars, believe it or not, that I would like.

What if you become poor?

Then I will have to just take up collecting model cars.

Okay.

Because trust me.

There's no forever cars.

There's what?

What do you know about my future that I don't know about?

I don't.

I'm just saying.

Just saying.

All right.

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Tonight, speaking of your GT3, you still have the...

There's no plate is forever.

We could say that you have air 404 as in air not found because it's a water cooled car,

which is kind of funny, but also the astute will point out that there still is air in a water

cooled car.

That's part of the point.

There's layers.

It's an onion dug.

Anyway, so we're like, you got a GT3.

You got to get a new plate because Ohio, you can switch out Vanity plates whenever you want.

So we came up with some ideas and we asked you as the listeners for ideas and we will get to the

plate to sample game shortly, but we wanted to go through what some ideas were for Tyler.

And I'm so excited, but I specifically said that these needed to not be basic or dumb.

No, these are good.

These are good.

This is what I don't love, but some of them are good.

And I had a brilliant one that I came up with and I forgot it.

Something to do with water.

I don't remember water board or, I don't know.

We could keep workshopping that one.

Nicosil?

Okay.

All right.

Yeah.

Our best one so far, I think is PenFed.

That is our most Tyler one and that did get a couple of votes from the listeners.

Okay.

From YouTube, apologies.

I'm not going to call everybody out for giving them credit.

Too many to go through here.

But anyway, don't lift.

Oh, I dig it.

Or it could be don't left.

No, it's don't lift.

Anti-NASCAR.

LOL360?

Not my favorite one.

I don't know.

What is that supposed to be?

It's like, there's a lot of LOL, like, you know, LOL Ferrari on a Lambo, you know, that type of

competitive thing.

But the 360 is nothing to LOL in my opinion.

I think they're fantastic.

Well, when they were out around the same time and I just bought, see, this is, I bought a copy

of Evo magazine on eBay that is getting shipped to me from the UK that is from 2003, where they

did the Challenge Stradale and then GT3 is like these new cars head to head.

And I'm super pumped to read it.

But like, that's, I don't like the antagonistic plates.

Right.

Because I think you're compensating for something.

Yeah.

Okay.

This is a good Tyler one.

No vet.

All right.

Okay.

I like it.

I like this one here.

Eskermay.

Oh, like Pigline for Eskermay.

Yes.

Okay.

Another great one here.

Bore what?

That's good.

M96 not.

Okay.

M96 not.

An egg face.

Egg face because it's got the fried eggs.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

So some, some good submissions there.

Keep them coming.

I'm not seeing any inspiration on Tyler's part.

If you heard the one I had for you, that would have been it.

It would have blown.

I'd be going to the BNV tomorrow.

Don't remember what it was.

Okay.

So the name of the plate to sample game is we read out, we read off an actual plate

spotted on a car typically by a listener and the other person has to guess not what it means,

but what kind of car it is on, how much can, how accurately can we judge or determine the

stereotype of the owner based on what they choose to display about themselves.

And speaking of which, I'm always baffled by what people deem is worth not only spending

money on, but advertising about themselves because a vanity plate is a really expensive

bumper sticker.

It's 50 bucks a year.

So for instance, I saw one this week that said iced tea lover.

I'm like, is that really your identity?

Do people come up to you in parking lots and be like, oh man, I love iced tea as well.

That Lipton.

Are you a Lipton person?

You know, it's duck, duck.

I don't, are lasting relationships and bonds formed from this?

Like maybe I don't, I, but I, this, I'm also lemon or unsweetened.

I'm a real tea enthusiast.

I just eat the leaves.

I'm like, okay.

All right.

Fire away, Tyler.

Okay, Doug.

First one for you is a Chevy fan, C-H-V-Y-F-N.

Is it on a Ford?

No, it's actually on a Chevy.

Yes, it's actually on a Chevy.

Silverado pickup truck.

Okay.

I like that you didn't immediately go for like a Corvette or something.

No, because a Corvette is like a different brand to Corvette people.

Yeah, it is.

No, this is on a Malibu, like a, like a 2013 Malibu.

All right.

I've had a couple of these as rentals and they're terrible.

It's like the, it's like the cheaply made Ultima.

Yeah.

And that's saying something.

All right.

This one, all of, sorry, I don't often do this, but they're all so good.

I don't know if he's stolen from other people or not.

It doesn't matter.

All of mine are from Matt R on Instagram.

Nice.

The whole lot of nice.

All right.

The first one for you.

Cold beer.

Cold Chevy S 10.

On the right track.

Okay.

All right.

On the right track.

Like a Dodge Ram pickup truck.

What is it?

Chevrolet Caprice station wagon.

Nice.

Oh, that's good.

That is good.

Yes, with a Bucky sticker and Virginia is for lovers.

Nice.

Tennessee plates.

Oh, my first one was some CJ hack on Instagram.

Thank you.

This one comes from Doug B.

K watt up.

K W A T T U P.

Okay.

Watt up.

Is it an EV?

It is.

Is it a Tesla?

No, it is not.

Is it a Rivian?

No, I don't know.

It is a Chevy Volt.

I think it's, I think Volt is what it is.

It's a Chevy.

So it's a hybrid.

Yeah.

Chevy Bolt.

Sorry.

I think the bolt is the full EV.

Yeah.

There we go.

All right.

Say a watt up.

The least annoying EV plate I think I've seen so far.

I like it.

Like kill a watt up.

I kind of like it.

Oh yeah.

Kill a watt.

I get the K.

Yeah.

I was trying not to be so obvious, but you know.

Yeah.

No, I, okay.

Yeah.

That was home schooled.

All right.

Eventually you're going to have to stop using that excuse.

Here's another one.

Gapplebees.

Like a Challenger.

Nope.

Or Camaro.

Nope.

Oh, who?

Nope.

Oh, is this like a really hopped up Civic or something?

Nope.

This is high class street racing.

High class street racing.

Yeah.

So it's a McLaren.

Nope.

Porsche, Panamera Turbo.

Whoa.

I mean, those are fast, but goodness.

Yeah.

Next for you from Jacob H on Instagram.

Section eight.

Wait a minute.

I've given you that before and it was an Escalade.

That one was.

This one is not.

Is it, is it a Bentley?

Nope.

Do we go opposite direction?

We going back to the Chevy Malibu.

Boy, Doug, you can take this any direction you want.

No, it's not a Malibu.

I'm not going to offend Ethan again and ask if it's on a Nissan Rogue.

He doesn't even drive a Rogue.

He drives a Murano.

What?

They're the same to me.

I can't tell the difference.

I literally cannot tell the difference.

They're both Taltamas.

No, this is an Audi A7.

All right.

Okay.

Indiana plates.

All right.

I was so happy for that one.

So happy.

This is an Ohio plate.

I kind of want to skip this one because I want to look up more information on it.

I'll come back to this one.

It's a good ending one.

Do not go anywhere, folks.

That one is worth a wait.

All right.

Illinois plate.

Who farted?

Is this on a Civic?

Nope.

You'd think.

That's why I guessed it.

Um, is it on a, uh, is this one on a pickup truck?

Is this like a Silverado?

Nope.

Oh my gosh.

I don't mind.

I guess one more.

Um, what's like a Taurus?

Like a Ford sedan?

Ah, close.

Ford Fusion.

Oh, Ford Fusion.

Man.

Yep.

All right.

Next one for me.

From stunt hunter on Instagram bet to win.

Bet to win.

Oh, I was informed last week that the, um, uh, full tilt obviously was a poker reference.

We couldn't.

Oh.

Yes.

Got you.

Duh.

Bet to win.

Bet.

BET2WN.

They're either a producer on BET network or they're a poker player.

I would maybe the second one.

Okay.

I would imagine.

Mercedes C-Class.

Audi A4, A5.

Wrong country.

Okay.

I don't know.

Is an Infinity G35X?

Okay.

Which is kind of like a luxury sedan.

Yeah.

Same car, wrong country.

All right.

Maybe they should win a little bit more on their bets.

Okay.

Saving the best for last.

So I'm still not going to do this one next.

Um, wait a minute.

Is it me?

Did I have six in here?

I guess we're just going to do five.

Okay.

All right.

So I only have one more.

Zero F-O-X GVN.

Zero Fox Given.

Ah, is this a Fox body?

You would think so.

Oh, there were other things Fox.

Is it a Fox body car?

Like there was like the, oh my gosh.

The, yeah.

Fair mount.

The fair mount.

There was other, there was another one, I think.

Is it one of those?

No.

I think it would be better if it was on a Fox body Mustang,

but it isn't.

It's on a Cadillac CTSV.

Okay.

So if it was on a Fox body, at least you'd have the like,

he, this is like a reference.

Now you're just like, oh, I got a bad word.

I mean, I, I appreciate that they got that lane past the Illinois.

You know, somebody was taking a nap at their DMV or whatever.

Right.

They were just like, yeah, whatever.

I really like Foxes.

That's what they said.

Last one for you.

What does a Fox say?

Again, from Stunhunter, thank you very much.

Drop top.

That could be anything.

It could be, but think of the type of person that would get dropped.

Ford Thunderbird.

Very close.

Ford Mustang.

Yeah.

All right.

Last one for you.

This is a great one and boy, oh boy.

Why Envy?

W-H-Y.

Why Envy?

I don't know if they're referring to the car.

Like, why do you envy me, bro?

Or that they are just content with life?

Is this a G-Wagon?

No.

Why Envy?

This, oh, like a Huracan.

No.

C8 Corvette.

No.

It is a 2006 Dodge Charger in a few different colors.

Carfax retail value shows at $500.

And there's a giant sticker on the back.

O-D-G-E in Dodge Script, Odge.

Underneath, you'll get the D later.

Nice.

Somebody's real classy.

Nice.

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