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How Tyler Patterson Built TXP Media from Scratch
How Tyler Patterson Built TXP Media from Scratch
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About this episode
Tyler Patterson shares his journey from collision estimator to the founder of TXP Media, a successful content creation company. He discusses the importance of networking, building relationships, and creating engaging content tailored to specific audiences. Patterson emphasizes the value of authenticity and creativity in the digital landscape, while also addressing the challenges of managing a growing team and balancing work-life commitments. The conversation touches on the impact of AI in the industry and the necessity for creators to adapt and evolve in a rapidly changing environment.
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How Tyler Patterson Built TXP Media from Scratch | Hard Parking Podcast
Summary: In the debut episode of the Hard Parking Podcast, host Jhae sits down with Tyler Patterson of TXP Media to explore his journey from a car enthusiast to a successful videographer and social media manager. Tyler shares how a viral video sparked his career, the importance of networking, and navigating the challenges of the content creation industry. With insights on AI’s impact and work-life balance, this episode is a must-listen for aspiring creators.
Topic Chapters:
1:57 - Meet Tyler Patterson: TXP Media’s Origin Story
5:03 - The Viral Video That Launched a Career
9:24 - Building a Business Through Relationships
15:40 - Crafting Content for Diverse Clients
25:59 - Managing a Creative Team and Client Churn
36:27 - Gatekeeping vs. Helping in the Creative Space
42:02 - Work-Life Balance with Kids and a Non-Traditional Career
53:19 - The Impact of AI on Content Creation
1:02:48 - Advice for Aspiring Content Creators
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Car
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
"I was used to street race my evo and that's kind of like that's how I got ingrained into the car culture here in Arizona"
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, or Evo, is a fast car that many people love for racing. It has a powerful engine and can drive well on different types of roads.
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, commonly known as the Evo, is a high-performance version of the Lancer sedan. It is known for its turbocharged engine and all-wheel-drive system, making it popular in the rally and street racing scenes.
Car
Subaru WRX STI
"I always had loud cars, you know, evo sti."
The Subaru WRX STI is a sporty car that many people like for its speed and control. It's designed for racing and has a strong engine that helps it go fast.
The Subaru WRX STI is a high-performance variant of the Subaru Impreza, known for its turbocharged engine and rally-inspired design. It is favored by car enthusiasts for its performance and handling capabilities.
Term
turbo timer
"So you come home you have a turbo timer...run oil through the turbo and"
A turbo timer is a tool that keeps the car running for a little while after you turn it off. It helps the engine cool down so it doesn't get damaged.
A turbo timer is a device that keeps the engine running for a short period after the driver turns off the ignition. This allows the turbocharger to cool down properly, preventing damage from heat buildup.
Concept
az street heat
"...I went on to az street heat if you're aware of if you're a car guy..."
AZ Street Heat is a group for car lovers in Arizona where people meet to show off their cars and enjoy car-related activities. It's a fun way for enthusiasts to connect with each other.
AZ Street Heat is a car enthusiast group or event in Arizona known for car meets and activities that often involve revving engines and showcasing vehicles. It's a social gathering for car lovers to connect and share their passion.
Brand
Chevrolet
"If it's a Chevrolet client, well, their customer is going to be different than like an Audi customer, right?"
Chevrolet is a well-known car brand in the United States that makes different types of vehicles, such as cars and trucks.
Chevrolet is an American automobile brand known for producing a wide range of vehicles, including cars, trucks, and SUVs. It's a division of General Motors and has a strong presence in both the domestic and international markets.
Brand
Audi
"If it's a Chevrolet client, well, their customer is going to be different than like an Audi customer, right?"
Audi is a luxury car brand from Germany that makes high-quality vehicles known for their performance and technology.
Audi is a German automobile manufacturer that designs, engineers, produces, markets, and distributes luxury vehicles. It is known for its advanced technology and performance-oriented models.
Car
Nissan Skyline
"A skyline versus a 240 sx or we understand like what goes into an ls swap and like how to build that caption"
The Nissan Skyline is a popular car made by Nissan, famous for its speed and ability to be modified for racing.
The Nissan Skyline is a series of automobiles produced by Nissan, known for their performance and tuning potential, especially in the context of motorsport and street racing.
Car
Nissan 240SX
"A skyline versus a 240 sx or we understand like what goes into an ls swap and like how to build that caption"
The Nissan 240SX is a lightweight sports car made by Nissan, often used for drifting and racing because it's easy to modify.
The Nissan 240SX is a sports car known for its lightweight design and rear-wheel drive layout, making it a popular choice for drifting and modifications.
Term
LS swap
"A skyline versus a 240 sx or we understand like what goes into an ls swap and like how to build that caption"
An LS swap is when you take out a car's old engine and put in a new one from a GM car, which is popular because these engines are powerful and dependable.
An LS swap refers to the process of replacing a car's original engine with a General Motors LS series engine, known for their performance and reliability.
Brand
Nissan
"...in november we go out to seema and we're gonna spend the whole week in vegas filming for a Nissan and filming for a bunch of different companies and"
Nissan is a car company from Japan that makes many types of vehicles, including cars and trucks. They're known for popular models like the Altima and the sporty GT-R.
Nissan is a Japanese automotive manufacturer known for producing a wide range of vehicles, including sedans, SUVs, and sports cars. They are particularly recognized for models like the Nissan Altima and Nissan GT-R.
Term
twin turbo
"...he has a twin turbo bagged Lincoln and it's just an insanely sick car that I wanted to film..."
Twin turbo means the car has two turbochargers that help the engine produce more power. This setup can make the car faster and more efficient than having just one turbo.
A twin turbo setup uses two turbochargers to increase an engine's power output. This configuration can provide better performance and efficiency compared to a single turbocharger.
Term
bagged
"...he has a twin turbo bagged Lincoln and it's just an insanely sick car that I wanted to film..."
Bagged means the car has special air suspension that lets you change how high or low it sits. This can make the car look cooler or help with driving performance.
'Bagged' refers to a vehicle that has been fitted with an air suspension system, allowing the driver to adjust the ride height of the car for aesthetics or performance.
- Meet Tyler Patterson: TXP Media’s Origin Story
- The Viral Video That Launched a Career
- Building a Business Through Relationships
- Crafting Content for Diverse Clients
- Managing a Creative Team and Client Churn
- Gatekeeping vs. Helping in the Creative Space
- Work-Life Balance with Kids and a Non-Traditional Career
- The Impact of AI on Content Creation
- Advice for Aspiring Content Creators
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Yeah, a lot of these is actually my first podcast. No shit. Yeah. All right. That's cool, man
So somebody finally found me interesting enough to have me on camera instead of me be the one filming
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Tyler the creator Patterson in studio
Thanks for coming by hard parking first and foremost. I appreciate you for that. Thanks. Hey, thanks for inviting me. Absolutely. So I
I got your message a while ago
Get me on the pod. Yeah, and I said absolutely. Let's do it. Yeah, and I'm very bad at that stuff
So I love the fact that at those last event you're like, hey, Tyler Patterson. Oh shit
Yes, let's do it and that on my mind the whole way home. I go. Let me get home
Drop into his DMs and say let's get it set up. Yeah, so thank you
Appreciate that. It's not very often that I have people that like I know of you obviously you follow each other
But that I know that was the first time I think I think that was the first time you introduce yourself
Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, you could be coming in here to blow up the podcast
You know to blow up anything you want and I don't know which is kind of cool
When I have had people on here that I haven't known before in the past. That's they've been the best ones
cool, because yeah, because I
The the normal listeners of this podcast get an opportunity to learn about somebody new. Yeah, you're involved in a lot of stuff
You know, like I go. Oh, oh, oh shit. All right. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. You know the
6.8 million followers you have on Instagram just kidding, but you know, yeah, I wish yeah
I mean doing we all right in a way, but you know, you have a lot of followers and you do a lot of stuff
So just really briefly
Tell us tell them the normal listening and viewing audience a little bit about yourself. Yeah
So, I mean, I think that's kind of one of the cool things that I think that my story is actually
Like resonates pretty well with everybody because before I started making videos and was like in the car scene that way
I was just a collision estimator, you know, so I I sold cars for a couple years and I was in collision estimating and then
You know, I don't know if you know like the origin story of like where I started, but no, we're gonna get into that
We so I've always been into race cars. I've always, you know had loud cars
I was used to street race my evo and that's kind of like that's how I got ingrained into the car culture here in Arizona
And so I always had loud cars, you know, evo sti. They weren't like harleys or you know crazy v8s
But my neighbor she absolutely hated my loud cars and I mean, you know, they're turbo cars
So you come home you have a turbo timer
So sometimes it runs for 30 seconds after you turn it off to you know run oil through the turbo and
She hated my cars and one day she was you know, yelling at me about starting up my Subaru
It was like nine o'clock in the morning and I was going to work not even early not even early
And you know, she was yelling at me
So I filmed her and I filmed like our altercation and then that day
I went on to az street heat if you're aware of if you're a car guy
If you're a car guy in Arizona, you know the debauchery that is az street heat
but you know, I admin that group at the time and
I set up an event for everybody to come rev their cars in front of her house at 6 a.m
To give her something I actually complain about
I remember that. Yeah, dude. Yeah, so when you first started describing the story, I go, huh, that sounds familiar
Yeah, okay. That was on street heat like eight years ago. Yeah, that that happened
And so, you know, I made the event like 60 people came. It was crazy
Uh cops got called because you know cars were two-stepping. It sounded like gunshots
And then you know, so that went on like that went off and super viral
32 million views on facebook and six million views on youtube and so I was like, well
Maybe I should start making videos, you know, I had been into like a
Like a creative arts class in high school and like
Dabbled in video editing stuff. It was fun, you know, but I uh, I had never really touched like a real camera
And so then I was like, yeah, I just need to
Figure out how to how to do this and so I just youtube academy learned everything from youtube
There's so many free resources on youtube that
It's it's wild
Um, so yeah, my friend I was making videos with my cell phone at the time, you know
Just iphone and iphone gimbal and then some guy randomly on facebook that I had never met in real life was like
Hey, dude, your videos are getting really good. Like you shouldn't be shooting on a phone anymore
I'll give you a thousand dollars go buy your first camera and your first gimbal and then pay me back whenever you can
That's amazing amazing never met this dude in real life only interacted on facebook
Went over to his house same day gave me a thousand bucks cash news
I am just hope i'm hoping that you're a good person that I see online that that's true and
Within like two three weeks. I had already paid him back and that kind of started it
That's awesome. Yeah, uh, kind of looking back
Given how old were you at the time with the lady?
the Karen
20 I mean I had lived there for like five years so probably from the age of like
20
23 to like 27 28, you know, and that was like when I first picked up camera was when I was 28, so
Would you do that again?
I would have done it sooner. I mean
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's kind of weird like uh, like just where things take you, you know
I mean, I just thought I was doing something funny and I was just gonna
Teach her a lesson and you know now sometimes I look back. I'm just like, thank you
To her right like I never know if this would have happened if we didn't have that interaction that day
So you never know like what's gonna come and I guess, you know, one person could say, you know, why do that
But another person could say why would she do that because there's too many times we see videos
Yeah, and we have the unhinged person who just decides to not even they're gonna film you and yell at you
You know, if you have a complaint go to the HOA if there is one
Otherwise, I mean, you just know that I mean at nine o'clock, dude
Cars in coffee 5 30 a.m. In the summer like we're talking middle technically. It's middle of the morning
Yeah, and people have a lot of loud cars and you said you had the loud cars
Um, but you know not like a Harley or anything, but that gave me an opportunity to ask you this because
One of my pet peeves
Well, I only want to set it up that way
But we have noise ordinances in places California other places, but it never seems to apply to
The big bikes to the hogs to the loud hogs and I just always found that annoying
Yeah, that was just like one of the like things that I said to her
I was like, what what if I had a Harley or like a big truck or something that I started every morning
I was just on blue collar, dude, you know, like do you hate it just because
It's a little tuner race car and yeah, like the other part of me is that you live in phoenix, Arizona
There's four million people here and it's not like we're out like, you know with land
You live right next to me. Like that's just something that we both deal with like I deal with your noise
You deal with mine and that was like I'm a good neighbor, you know
I don't make noise. I don't party like I don't sell drugs. Just leave me alone, you know, and that was like
Super hard for her
You know, that's an excellent point about the big truck because you got the the guys with the big turbo diesels
Yeah, you start them early in the morning and they just sit out there and idle because that's what they have to do
I've been woke up many times over the years by those trucks and you're just like, oh
Neighbors getting ready for work again and you go back to sleep. So that's kind of funny
Do you still keep in contact with this person who you know, I thought it would be nice like bring her a cake or something
No, no, no, not that person. Oh not that person. Yeah, the one that's like I love what you're doing online
Yeah, I mean let's do something with that. Yeah. I mean I think that
Over everything you just have to have work ethic
You know, I mean I could have just started making videos and it could have been a hobby but
I've really liked creating. I thought it was awesome to
Have a job to like film race cars. Like that's crazy. You know when somebody asked me what I do
I say I get to film race cars for a living
and
Usually they're like what like what does that even mean, you know
So to be going from like a regular nine to five and like almost
Stuck in the matrix if you will to now having like a skill
Outside of video right because ai is crazy. You never know. What's where it's gonna take you but if I can remember
Yeah, but like, you know, just helping businesses marketing all that stuff that I've learned
I just feel like I have something invaluable now, you know, like I feel like no matter what happens
I'm gonna be fine. Yeah
It's crazy though because did you ever have
Like what did you want to do?
Yeah, I mean that's that's weird because I think a lot of people like I know myself personally
I would sit at my nine to five and just think like man
What can I do to get out of here? You know and like
business ideas or
You know like crypto or whatever it is, you know, you're always thinking of ways to like get up and get ahead and
I mean, I never in a million years would have thought like oh, this is what you're supposed to do, you know, so
Yeah, I don't think I ever really had like that one thing
It's interesting though, right because what you're doing now
And you know, we'll talk about it
But what you're doing now it's been a career for a lot of people not in the same way
But it's even more so a thing now with the way things are in media period
It's kind of crazy, right?
It's like when we talk about changing technologies and we'll take
EV batteries, for example, and we know the whole EV thing whatnot
But one of the things that I've said in order to make that actually work
Which it's not going to but in order to make it actually work you need to be able to swap out batteries and cars
Well, how are you going to do that? Well, there's going to be some sort of a new
Job that comes along like no one was delivering amazon like they are now 10 years ago. That's a new job created by
Right that by technology and the trends
Yeah, there's going to be a whole fleet of people that all they do is drive around deliver batteries all day
Unthinkable now, but that could be a thing, right?
And it's the same thing in your space to where it's it's a traditional career
But it seemed somewhat unattainable
But you got to go to school and do all the av avie tech stuff and now you can just come off the street with some skill
Use the power of social media and marketing have a drive
And find success was it always
Did it always feel easy and natural to you or were there like I don't know if this is what I want to do
Yeah, no, I mean that sucks
No, it's you know a lot of like we have like this whole like trope about like the starving artist and you know about that
Where it's like hard to make money if you're creative and this and that and it's like
You know every video that I make is essentially an ad
You know it's like as as many people are supposed to see it as possible
I'm trying to make it as good as possible so that it gets shared and saved and whatever so
Like yeah, I mean I just think
When it comes down to like building your platform and doing those things that like put you in position
It's just
It's crazy in this landscape because I tell everybody get into content like just start making content because you know
There's never been a time where creators were like so empowered and that you could just
Literally learn something and now it's it's just it's not about oh, I went to school here or like whatever it's
The content is the proof, you know, if I can make a badass video
What do you care if I went to a media arts college if I can make a video that's going to get five six million views
Like that I don't think I think it's proof is in the pudding now when it comes to content
You know we used to have this like whole influencer era of people that were like fake and buying followers and interaction and stuff and
Like I think now you can just see through it, right?
You see like a page that's like 200 000 followers, but they get no interaction on their post like 80 90 likes or something
I mean, you know, we only have 86k on instagram and
I mean we've done multiple and that's txt media. Yeah, and then tiktok. We have 200 000
so, you know
tiktok originally that's what's funny about instagram now because instagram's like the hot platform now but
instagram used to hate video a couple years ago, you know, it was just a it was just a photo platform every video that you uploaded
That had music would get like copyright strike or you know muted for that and then
Only in the last couple years has like the tiktok application of content really like
Pushed video into instagram. So I started pushing tiktok really hard
blew up really well on tiktok and then they change a bunch of stuff with like
What's okay to show, you know, no burnout. It's very inconsistent too, by the way. Yeah, you know doesn't make sense
I'll see a video. It's like this video is performed by professionals and it's just some dude in his backyard doing something like crazy
I'm like, oh, but my video of a burnout on a street with no cars, you know got the video taken down. So
Yeah, I don't really focus on tiktok as much anymore, but yeah, instagram's been really good for me
But has it been linear for you?
no, I mean
That is one of the things that I struggle with is that like I've always just kind of had to figure out how to handle as much work as I've had
You know, like I've never run ads. I've never like
Run targeted campaigns to get work. It's just always kind of been about
Figuring out how to handle whatever's on our plate, you know, now we do work for nismo corporate
We just got last week. We got six more dealerships. I saw that on retainers
So now we do 14 different dealerships, you know in in phoenix
So we're working with like almost every major manufacturer now
I think the big thing with that is we'll kind of transcend into your industry is
You have a significant array of clients and you can't treat all of them the same way as far as the videos you produce
Yeah, you know, do you have like the standard thing that you typically okay?
So we just picked up six new dealerships. Yeah, these are we picked them up because of these ads
So this is the way we are going to construct those videos versus the event that we recently went to
Right with the strad man with yeah with james strad man
At the hot at the hot chicken place, you know, that's gonna I think in theory be a different
piece of video. Yeah video right like how do you
Figure out what's what?
It's just about doing
You know, like just I think knowledge like I can't make a super explicit video for one of these like corporate dealer clients
You know, I think one of the things that we really focus on when it comes like social media content
It's just like value driven stuff, you know
Um a lot of times businesses used to look at social media just like a marketplace, you know
Like put up their sales put up there or whatever
But I always use the friend analogy where social media is where you go you choose to follow people, right?
So they're essentially your friends. Well, if you had a friend that came over and every time he came over
He was trying to sell you something
You're probably not gonna meet with that friend anymore. Not very often. So I think we all have friends like that too
Yeah, they're in your circle, but yeah, it's like
They're always they always have some agenda, right? It might not be a sale, but they might try to be squeezed in somewhere
So like that's the approach that we take where social media you just have to be entertaining people
We have to be giving them value without asking for for anything. So
Um, you know, we take take on different approaches to content just depending on the client, you know
If it's a Chevrolet client, well, their customer is going to be different than like an Audi customer, right? So that
They're demographic understanding. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know
And I think it really helps that like myself and pretty much all my team is just car people
You know, so we understand
A skyline versus a 240 sx or we understand like what goes into an ls swap and like how to build that caption
Versus a lot of like traditional marketing companies like there's pencil pushers, right? They're just no idea. Yeah, they're just marketing people
So it's like I think that we make content that resonates with the audience that wants to see it
And I think that like we know what's cool. Like we know it looks good. We do some trends, but
Um, yeah, we just really try to make the coolest stuff that we can
How did you land your first deal?
And and txp. Yeah talk about that
Yeah, when did you decide to create that or be a part of that? Yeah, I mean, I imagine you're the creator since the two of the three
Initials are your name. Yeah. Yeah, and then X is just means it's funny because like when I started to think of the name
I'm like, I don't know if this will ever go anywhere. You know, let's just throw some initials and now I'm like
God, if I could have just put in some time and it's like a better brandable name, but it's fine. Yeah. No, um
I mean
When we started and when I started this it was just myself, you know, just making cool videos
and like as
Time and as like more people get to know me we get busier
And so then it went from me just like doing car features and just doing like
Cool videos of cars to then businesses, you know messaging me saying, hey, do you do social media management?
And you know, again with knowing so many different people
Like just in the car scene that once they saw that I was making videos
They just already knew of me and they're like, oh, we can just go to tyler for videos. So, um
Yeah, I think it was like
It was like early to mid 2022 when we kind of like flipped a switch from
doing just like
B2C stuff with just like filming cars like for people's instagram to doing like more b2b stuff where we were all like
just managing their their social medias and
I went around to a bunch of businesses and owners that I knew that I
Could help them with their content and I was just like, look, you know, we can do this
We can put a team together and you'll essentially have multiple people working on it
And it'll be less than just one full-time employee and it just seems to make sense to businesses, you know, like a a lot of the
Like the in-house marketing people, you know, like they're scrolling tiktok most of the day
Or they're not like doing actual like work or you know, somebody can only film and edit so much as one person
You know, we have six people on your contract. So
You know, it's interesting you say that and because you brought that last part about scrolling tiktok
I'll get back to what my initial thought was
But there are times when
Like i'm watching my wife just scroll through certain things or listening to it
And i'm thinking you know, what is it about that video that caused her to stop on it?
Yeah, yeah, you know or the kids or the grandkids like what is it about what they're watching?
Yeah, because with like trends change so much
And you have to be willing to adapt and change with them or else you're gonna get kind of left behind
Being dependable being the one-stop shop because people know. Hey, I worked with txp. Txp knows what I like
They're hassle-free. I'm like that with a few of the people that I bring back for all sorts of things. Yeah
Hey, this person i'm looking for somebody
Do you know anyone? Yeah, I get a little tyler. There's tyler, you know txp and so
You said something that I think is very important. I push it all the time
Relationships and networking
If you know how to network and you know how to have a natural good relationship with people
It's gonna get you far as hell
That's better than being a better videographer
Like there's tons of videographers that are like make better videos than me, you know
I still have more clients, right? It's like they're so focused on like the creative aspect that they forget like the business side of things
And with me selling cars for multiple years
I went through sales school like that stuff was already there for me where
Yeah, I think that's where a lot of people are missing it
So you probably know who this is but just in case you do, you know who John Sibal is
Or John Seibel is it Seibel Seibel sounds it sounds really familiar because I had him on the show a long time ago
Yeah, and through our friendship relationship from going all these events. It was great and he basically said exactly what you just said
Yeah, you know, there's going to be people out there that are more skilled at different things
But being able to effectively communicate have a good relationship not burn bridges is going to get you far as hell in life
Yeah, dude, and you're climbing up. So looking at your profile
I show that you're associated with the hub as well. Yeah
Now are you just doing media with them? Are you like part of the actual hub? So we that was part of the strad man thing
Um, freddy win if he's like one of the you know, there's freddy joshua. Yeah, absolutely
Yeah, freddy joshua and rudy those are like the main owners of hub
And they just deal with a lot of high profile people, you know, it's like I was talking to freddy
The other day and it was just like you're talking about it's just all about relationships and how many people, you know
And how well you treat those relationships
And so yeah working with those guys we covered that recent the strad man stuff
So it's like a
The meat to houston hot chicken then we went to barrett jackson from houston hot chicken that video hasn't come out yet
And then on on monday that week we went to dutch bro's corporate and like delivered them pizzas and stuff
And so that was all part of like hub 111 and yeah, those guys are cool. I think for me
Uh, like a lot of the bigger creators just have like issues with ego
Honestly, like they don't want to work with anybody
Absolutely, and they don't want to like build something else. They just want to build themselves up, you know
And like I get it right like we've all been there
But you're your own brand sometimes but there's a point. Yeah, I mean I've joined production companies all the time
I'll just go shoot cool stuff. Like I don't need my name attached to it
I don't need to like have those clients as my own
You know, I'm at the point now where we get to kind of like choose who we work with and the projects that we work on so
Um, I'm just I'm just trying to do cooler stuff
So someone could say
Tyler is a an influencer
But you're not usually front and center in front of the camera as much as you're behind it
Yeah
The whole ego thing made me think about this part
Because on a much smaller scale people have called me an influencer before and then you always kind of you're like
Yeah, because of some of those personalities and those egos
It's like you want to have the independent success, but you don't want to be called an influencer
Yeah, it has like a bad connotation. It does, you know, and there's some good ones out there and there's some that aren't
I mean, I guess they're all good and they're all right
Yeah
I did an episode last year or a year before like never meet your influencer heroes and it was very specific about one person
You know, yeah, and if you were to go back and listen to it
You could probably figure out who it is within a few minutes of who that person is
Yeah, but even that wasn't one of my
You know heroes, but somebody that I've witnessed be a complete asshole to other people as soon as the camera turned off
And I was like, dude, what a dick. Yeah, and then being around this person multiple times working the same event
Trying to have small talk. It's like dude. What a dick
You know, where do you
Because you have to deal with some of these
You know, some of them are going to have more egos than the others
You know, how do you do that because this is going to be an important lesson for anybody watching this who wants to do what you do
Yeah, um
I mean, how how we deal with it. I don't know. I just always
Try to be myself
You know, I'm always just trying to get the best footage that I can and
You know, I think like influencer has a bad connotation now because
like
Everybody's trying to do it, right? Like you
Influenza influencers have been around forever. They're called actors. Yeah, right like that
You had to be famous or be something to do that and now
You know influencers talk tossed around so like loosely because
You know, just because you have followers or whatever, you know, but you're influencing people
But yeah, um, I think you just have to have something that's
Like valuable to influence or like you have to know something
You can't just be an influencer if you don't know what you're talking about, you know
So I think it just has to do with authenticity, right?
Like I know cars like you want to talk to me about cars
You know, I'm a car guy like I'll I'll talk to you as I'm filming your race car and you know, I just
I think it just comes out in the content, you know, like if I I don't have to be all like flashy or cocky or like some way
I just
Just make videos
I do want to be more in front of the camera though. Yeah
Yeah, just to grow my own personal brand more because that's important as well. Yeah, you know, it's part of the equation
Yeah, put a face to it. Yeah, but you can't lose yourself in that. Yeah, you know unless you're bringing other people with you
You know, how do you do how big is your team?
Right now seven and how do you decide?
You know when to add or drop like if you ever had to drop people. Yeah, I mean it's
I had like a big like
Like wake up call last year is like last year right around this time actually at SEMA
We lost two of our largest contracts like within the course of three days
So we had, you know, one of our contracts was $8,000 a month. The other was 10
So, you know, I lost like almost a quarter million dollars with two phone calls, you know
And we had just like started expanding our team
So, I mean with any marketing business you have this thing called churn, right your clients
They just doesn't matter how good you do. There's just unforeseen stuff
You could have your best friend client of 10 years and you know
Something that happens in their organization that cuts you out
So that was one thing that I didn't I didn't really protect myself well enough against churn
Like we were just too dependent on those like two clients and then you know that that almost cut our
Like complete workload in half, you know, so
um, it was
Super hard to you know, say, hey, I'm gonna I'm not letting because I love the people on my team
So it was more like I know we're gonna get back there. So it's like you just kind of have to wait for now
You know, it's like a weird place to be in as a creator because they're like, well, I have to make money
You know, and if any of them went to any other teams totally fine, but you know, one of our editors is in poland
Uh, one of our editors is in dallas. He's been with me since day one
Um, and then yeah, the rest of our teams is local
so
So you you haven't really had to cut anyone for performance
Or did you ever have you have okay? Well, that's you know, how do you handle that situation?
Uh, I mean, I think people just need to take accountability, right?
Like if you did something wrong and it's like
A fireable offense and like I'm just gonna be real with you
But I have to let you go, you know, like I can't have this on my team
You know like one of my like the main thing that I think about is like one of my
Guys was like, you know, we go so kind of like our workflows
You know, I have like one creative lead who manages a bunch of different contracts
He'll go out throughout the week and he'll film right just just miscellaneous content
Well, you know, they can just sit around and talk sometimes to the employees or they're not actually filming
So this this employee of mine was just like loitering and talking around to the guys and kind of keeping them off task
Well, the business owner came up to my guy and was like
Are you gonna keep talking to my guys and eating or are you gonna get to work?
And he was like, I'm gonna keep eating my guy said I'm gonna keep eating
So that wasn't a good call that I got from that business owner. I'm like, dude, you know, you're representing me, you know, like it's not
It's not your name in any of this, right?
If it goes bad, it goes bad on me and my relationships that I've built with these people
Because I trusted you to to do what you said you was so
Yeah, I mean I
I think it's just about accountability
Why do you think people lose sight of that?
Because they don't want to be the bad guy, you know, like we all mess up
But people think that like when you admit to doing something wrong that you're the bad guy for it and
you know
You know, that kind of brings me around to
kind of
A different thing about accountability and not really understanding that you kind of represent
So if I'm one of your employees or one of your contractors
And I'm on a job. I know that I represent you or even if have you ever had somebody who's
Are all your employees contractors or do you
All right, so
And so it's a little different
But have you ever had a 1099 person do something away from work where you're just like shit, man
It's not a good look for our company
And then if so, what do you think you would do with that?
No, not necessarily
I mean, I've had my guys like not show up for shoots or something that I've had to
Like get in front of but yeah, I mean
Can you be canceled nowadays? Like you can only be canceled. Yes, I know right care, right? I mean
None of my guys have done anything that bad to like
To warrant anything like that. But I mean
I think the main thing that I worry about is like, you know, you you take a guy and you teach him a lot of stuff
And you you build them up. Well like in our creative world
It's like a weird mix of like people that want this position like as a creative lead for my company, for example, right because
If they're too good
They don't need to work for somebody like me, right?
And if they are just starting and they're really looking for a job in the creative field
They're probably not good enough to work for us yet
You know, so it's like you have to find this like Goldilocks zone of like filmers and or editors that are
Good enough but not busy enough, you know, or people who just want to do one job, right?
Like just want to go out and film don't want to do any editing don't want to mess with clients
Don't want to do any of that. So I think that's been like the
The one of the hardest things is like building a team that still put stuff out to my standard because
I went from a guy who was like making videos all the time from filming and editing
To now being like a glorified manager most of the time, you know, so I went from the creative to like this admin role
Which is like another like creative
Internal struggle that I have, you know, I'm not I'm not going out and filming every week and editing and like meeting people
I'm stuck buying a desk answering emails on work calls or you know, like yes, that's just part of it
It's like, hey, you want to come to the podcast? Fuck. Yeah, get me out of here. Yeah, right? Yeah
How do you uh, how do you go about managing your your team? Like, how do you keep them incentivized to stay with you?
I know they're all 1099. Yeah, but when there's a competing interest, right? It's like, hey Tyler
I know, you know, we got these products, but there's this other opportunity
Yeah, how do you talk them or do you even talk them out of that if they're overlapping?
Yeah, I think it's just about doing cool stuff, you know, people want to be involved in
businesses that are growing and doing cool stuff and I think
Like we're not a production company where you have to be filming some kids bar mitzvah, you know, like we're like
We we film really cool stuff and I think that that helps, you know, like
um, you know in november we go out to seema and we're gonna spend the whole week
in vegas filming for a Nissan and filming for a bunch of different companies and
You know, my guys sometimes get to travel to go to shoots and you know
I think that that stuff keeps them incentivized to where they feel like they're growing, you know, because that
I think the main thing is that videographers
Especially when you're making social media content, there's almost this like negative
Like oh, it's just it's going on instagram, you know, like you're filming vertically instead of like working on a large production with 50 people
on some
Commercial is going to go on tv, you know, I feel like that is
Usually what's in the back of creative's mind is like the end goal, right?
They want to be involved. They want to be a dp or they want to be, you know lead gaffer or whatever, you know
Like that that's the other thing when you look into like the film industry is that
You know
For a long time I was doing every facet of production, you know
From the planning to the filming to the editing to setting up to all of that
And when you actually look at hollywood or look at any sort of production, everybody only has one job
Right like you have one person who does sound you have one person who holds the mic give one person who does lighting
So I think it's got given me a lot of experience in general just handling everything
Yeah, how do you um
How do you stay relevant?
By posting the wins like hey, we just picked up six dealerships because it's a very competitive space
Yeah, everybody wants to be the next creator
And even kind of going back to like hold on to the how do you stay relevant question?
Like keep it over here
But you were talking about maybe someone wants to do it on their own or they don't have enough experience yet
So you always like I'm sure you have people that want to be part of your team
And they just want to learn from you and then take what they've learned and go off and maybe eventually become your competitor
Yeah, like I've had people in that space is like hey, we're doing an event and we want these new people to come can you
Talk to them about what your method is. I mean you helped me set this up today
Right, and I don't know if people watching are going to see a difference, but they might but I know it helps me and educated me
Yeah, not many people have sat in front of me that I've trusted to do that. Yeah, you're one of those people, right?
But I've also had other photographers say no I respectfully decline because I don't want them taking my job
This is how I make my money. Yeah, welcome to gatekeeping. You know, I mean that's I mean that is gate. I mean it's it's
hard in the
Creative space, you know, because
Like I've had stuff where you know, I'll share something I'm doing on my story, you know
And then I'll see like a competitor just followed the people right and that's like those are my clients
so, you know, are they trying to
Scoop them up on the back end or say, you know, hey, well, we can do stuff for cheaper than txp or
Or whatever
So I think that that's why it's hard because like everybody in marketing is like super guarded with their clients
You know, like everybody wants to keep their clients and there's a lot of options when it comes to marketing. So
um, that is definitely
I'm conflicted, you know with gatekeeping in my head because for me, it's just like
If you want to know something or you want to learn then go out and do it like that's what I did
YouTube university I learned everything from youtube and you have the exact same
Opportunity that I do like for me. It just feels like a lot of people that ask like they just want the easy way
You know, they just want the right now answer. What's the best camera setup? I get that question all the time
It's like, what are you shooting? Right? Like, you know, different camera setups are required for different projects
Lighting everything. Yeah, lighting. Well, you know, what are your export settings? It's like, okay
Well, what is your actual raw footage look like is that gonna translate to this?
You know, they just want like a quick answer instead of like doing the trial and error, which is what I think is like
That is the work, you know, like learning like
I had to just I would watch a youtube video and then I would like be editing side by side
Or I would watch a youtube video and then try to do that on my next shoot, you know
And okay, that didn't work. This happened whatever it is like
That's what helps you not not just knowing the right thing that somebody else did
I mean, I'm sure it's like same with podcast, right? Dude
It is and I I've reached out and offered a lot of what I know
I said guys, I don't know everything but there's what I've learned and most of it is from
You know, youtube university, you know and trial and error
I mean, I've got I don't know what I'm going to do with that thing over that grid over there because I realize
I've just used this thing which used to be over there for months because they had a grid on each person
In all the sound happening in this room is from online
It's kind of the same deal, I guess, but I mean people learn different ways
Because you don't want to
Be like fuck off
Yeah, you know, but you want to help people but you don't want to help them too much because at the end of the day
It's your livelihood. I don't think that it's gonna like affect my clients or like my
Like there's enough clients and work to go around for everybody, you know
What if I help I like that mindset if I help this kid with his camera settings or whatever like that's not gonna affect
My business if anything he's gonna have more
Like affection towards me for like being able to actually like help him
I do think that you're gonna get more out of helping people than is ever gonna
Take away, especially when you're talking about
The scale of social media and the united states like I'm not just focusing on arizona businesses, you know
I want to be focused on national, you know global stuff. So, you know, if I help somebody out in arizona, you know, I don't know
I don't think it's gonna matter
Yeah, that's I love that mindset because on a grand scale you're 100 correct, right?
It's like maybe you have your clientele and clients do have a limited number
Yeah, but as far as success online success on youtube social media, it's like, okay either i'm gonna follow you and this guy
But i'm not gonna stop following this guy because I like your stuff better
Yeah, you know, and it's the same thing when you have a like a youtube channel, you know
I'll talk to my friend john rivers about that it's like
If i'm asking you for something don't gatekeep because yeah, there are
A shit ton of people out there consuming this content
Yeah, we the two of us represent less than a fraction of the smallest percentage of a percent of anybody who ever watches youtube
Yeah, so stop gatekeeping and I just wish most people more people had that that mindset
Yeah, but there's a flip side to it, right because you see like monoray car week and you see gatt
Right gattlenburg and those
Those events and you know, we're talking about different subjects. We're talking about like knowledge versus like events
But yeah, you know the car scene right now is kind of in like a weird spot. It's like can we have anything nice?
You know like gattlenburg
Like slammed enough gattlenburg can't go back there
Yeah, you you saw what happened monoray car week. It was all tiktok kids with their cell phones and like it's uh
It's like this weird balance between like cloud chasing and like actually
Like making the content
You know, I don't want to feel bad because i'm out there with my camera filming something either that i'm like paid to
Or that i think's gonna do well, but i'm a professional, you know, i'm not just putting this on my snapchat
i'm not asking them to go do burnouts like
I don't know it's like
Gatekeeping that's why i'm so conflicted because like I feel like some things like probably need it because i'm not sure if
Our community can handle it
Yeah, it's all about who can grab the most viral vid versus who's actually trying to do it
I mean you guys are doing it your team is doing it
A lot of the people you described is who can catch the viral vid. It's the same person that records
Someone getting their ass beat. Yeah instead of calling the police are trying to find help
Yeah, and when you look around and there's 30 people doing it you're like, what the fuck is going on
Well, and it's so funny because we blame like the people that are doing the burnouts and the like the
The people that are participating in it, but like we never hold the spectators accountable
Right the spectators are surrounding all the cars. They're telling them to you know, you're encouraging rev it up
It's like drink drink drink drink essentially. It's drink drink at a party, right? And you know, this guy has an ego
He's in his hundred and fifty thousand dollar sports car, right? Like you know that we like to show off
So what's gonna happen like boys are gonna be boys, you know, so
Um, that's why I I have an event coming up in december at v quiva
And that's just like a like a a parking show type show where we're just gonna try and show the best cars
How do you
So you went from, you know, kind of the tuner annoying your neighbor
You know, but how do you
Do you care as much about what you're filming and this is kind of a deeper question?
It's easy to answer on the surface level, right? Yeah, but like what kind of gets you going like what do you do?
And we'll kind of go back and I'm I ask you like this whole myriad of questions just to confuse you I guess
But you know kind of going back to now being the manager of other talent, you know
It's almost the same deal like do you just step away and do stuff just for you or are you just filming this just for you?
Yeah, recently I started just going out and doing passion projects like I mean I I flew to colorado and filmed
um masters
Influencer right and car guy. Um, he has a twin turbo bagged lincoln
And it's just an insanely sick car that I wanted to film and I just hit him up as hey
I'm down to come out. I don't need to charge you anything just let's meet up and film it
So it's definitely giving me the freedom to go do that
But I mean I have two kids also so I mean I can't be just traveling and three and ten three and nine three and nine
Yeah, both girls so and they love cars too, you know
So that's really cool taking them to meets and you know, I took my
nine-year-old to cars and coffee and had her taking pictures and you know trying to like just touch their toes in it
Without like forcing them to do anything
um
But yeah, it's um
How are you managing that work life balance? That's a question
I was thinking about earlier when I was in the kitchen before you got here. Yeah, because
You got the three and nine-year-old you are txp media. You're the head of this
Yeah, and even you know when you take the nine-year-old to cars and coffee
I would imagine people know who you are to a sense like how do you manage that because I
I invited my grandson and he keeps saying no one day. He's gonna say yes
Yeah, but then when I go to these events like the the pizza the strad pizza one the other day
I'm like man. He'd be so bored because I just sit here and talk to people the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, how do you manage that?
I mean
You have clients that are there
Perspective clients. Yeah, you know the one in your time that may not necessarily respect that. Yeah, I mean
I think
This like this career has definitely
Allowed me to like be more in their life than I would have if I had a nine to five, you know, that's one thing
You know my fiance she's a stay-at-home mom and she's had the last three years with our three-year-old so I think like
Having a strong partner is number one where you can like
Really count on them to you know pick the kids up or you know, I'm editing late and whatever the case is
You know, I think that that is like number one work-life balance. It's like making sure you have a good partner
But then just making sure that like the time
My biggest problem one of my biggest things is that I'm probably not as present as I should be all the time like it's hard
I'm attached to my phone because that's my source of income
You know like there have been plenty of times where I missed a call and I missed a job
Or you know, I missed a dm for hours and then they never respond or whatever
I feel like that's like the mental thing that like keeps me attached to it
But I mean that's also why golf is like my number one hobby and I like Legos because it's completely analog and completely separated from
From screens
But like yeah, work family life just making sure that we're going on trips and then we're making like actual memories
You know, it's not I'm not trying to buy them everything, but I I sure as hell want them to have a lot of fun. Sure
Well, yeah, it's difficult man, and you said a strong partner is is key right because
I know that like my wife knows all the stuff that I do
But I still think that there's enough
Accused her of this recently
In her in her mind, I think that it's what I do even from my day job isn't important isn't as important as what she does
So it's kind of hard to
Get them to understand that hey Tyler's editing. Why can't you just drop what you're doing?
And go pick up their groceries or why can't you just drop what you're doing?
And it's like I can't this is the livelihood or it's are you doing anything today?
It's like yeah, I'm working
You know like I should be expected Monday through Friday
9 to 5 to be able to be in my office and be
Working just because daddy's home doesn't mean daddy's home
A thousand percent and I think it's just like a it's what what you do is so non traditional
Yeah, you know because even like we said earlier creatives have always been around
But they've been in the office
In the creation center or in the marketing section of big corp
Yeah, you know very few independently doing it at home. And I bet you that's a struggle that people have had to deal with
For decades
Well, it's hard for me too to like be like, um, so tired
I was filming race cars and I was in race cars all day and it's like, you know, it's like that's fun stuff
You know, like I might be exhausted
While although it was still fun, you know, like that's hard too because what I do
It's like I'm not a blue collar dude who's out there laying tile on a roof
Like what right do I have to say like today was hard?
You know, it's relative. I hear you even with my day job. I rarely have a bad day
So then when my wife is stressed out, but then it's I have things that could stress me out. Yeah
I just it's just rarely that it happens
Uh, but then you know, you can spend all day at the racetrack and all that kind of stuff the three and nine year old don't care
Yeah, so there's that right? So it's like, hey, can you want to play with me and you're like
Daddy's tired
Yeah, yeah, I'll have like zeke now talk about him sometimes
He's our seven year old grandson and I will I will have just pulled into the garage from
Driving back from I don't know Long Beach or something and not two seconds in the dirt. Yeah. Hey poppy play with me. I'm like
Hey, but isn't it such a blessing to have those problems though?
Like that that for me is one thing where I'm like
Dang, I like I do this all the time where I'm driving back from shoots or something. I'm like, man, it's
I am so happy that I get to be tired from this day
Absolutely, you know, there are so many people who wish that they could go out and have the exact same day as me
Like they wish that they could be front row filming something or that they could get a ride along in this car to do
What I'm doing. So I just
I just try to stay positive and put in perspective
I I'll have to find the post and I you basically remind me of it and it's awesome
And it has something to you know, isn't it nice to like one of the stuff and whatnot and be nice
Isn't it nice to be tired of doing what you've always wanted? You know that hit me, you know, all you saw that
Yeah, that was awesome, right? Yeah
But like with the little kids though, it's so traditionally for the for years I was gone like
Five days a week. Oh shit, right because I was healthcare it. I was just gone. I would just fly out
I'd fly out every
Sunday and I'd come on really late on Thursday night sometimes rarely Friday morning
And so I missed a lot of the kids growing up. I was just around them during the weekend
And so now I don't travel as much and it's funny because I don't do car events as much either now
I have no real excuse, but I'm sitting right here. Yeah
Working
But it's one of those deals where I could only tell the kid know so many times before I'm like, fuck
Let me just say yes
Yeah, play with them for 30 or 45 minutes knowing and it's going to put me seven hours
Compacted behind on my normal schedule. That's just is what it is and we know that sacrifice
Yeah, and it's a good trade-off. But you know, sometimes other people don't necessarily appreciate
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's going to come out on your kids, right?
Like they're you know, we might not see it at this moment when we play with them about how much it means
But when they actually grow up to be a good person or they develop those relationships with their kids then
That's I think, you know, when it pays dividends me personally
I never had like that vision about having kids and getting married and you know, like I just that's just like wasn't my focus and my mindset
so like I
I don't know. I feel conflicted also because I'm like, dang
I'm you know doing a lot of work and I'm not really with him
But then I like step back and I'm like, well if I had a nine to five
I would see them way less
You know, like I feel like it's way more impactful for us, you know, and
I honestly, I'm not one of those people like I don't like the baby stage
You know, I I was not a fan of that even, you know, my youngest now they're like they grow up so fast like enjoy it
I'm like, please, you know, like I I
I feel like I'm gonna regret that eventually but
I don't know. I just
Have had like kind of blinders on so like when I try to do family time. I was trying to take it off and like
Yeah, it's a bigger deal now for your nine-year-old. Yeah, huge deal
Your three-year-old not as big of a deal
But it feels good to you as well, right?
Because then you treasure that because you saw it with your nine-year-old they get they get there fast
Yeah, because one of ours is she's gonna be too soon. The other one's gonna be three soon
And all they want to do. Yeah. Yeah
Oh, that's different grandkids different. It is but it is but it isn't because I really wasn't around
The older kids that much, you know early on
Yeah, and so for a lot of this is kind of like first time for me with the seven-year-old
The two and a half year old the one and a half year old and we got a seven month old too, right? Yeah
And usually they're all here hanging out
but
Now it's it's weird because the two and a half year old and the one and a half year old
All they want to do well not all they want to do
But one of the things they look forward to when they're coming over here is I'm their gateway upstairs
You saw that gate downstairs. Yeah. Yeah, and so I know it doesn't
It doesn't really mean anything to them that I'm bringing them upstairs
But it means something to me that they want me to bring them upstairs
You know, I'm kind of watching them interact with each other and play with me knowing that at that age
It doesn't really mean as much. Yeah. I mean
I absolutely love my kids more than anything
It makes me happy that they want to play with me because if they're just in their room or just doing whatever
I'm like which they will be at some point and the nine year old is getting there. Yeah, you know, it's it's already happening
but
You know for me
I don't want to put like how my childhood was
And like substitute that for what hers should because like I feel like a lot of kids
now and like a lot of parents
like
I understand it like demonizing the screen and like saying to get off the screen and this and that
But it's like that's what their generation is around and if I agree with that if they're deprived from those
Social norms or those whatever like I don't think that's really gonna help them
Socially they're gonna be the weird kid that doesn't watch youtube or whatever and maybe you don't need I don't like
I don't necessarily want my kid to like fit in all those boxes that like other kids think that they should
but I also don't want them to just like
Immediately be an outcast or you know, whatever it's like that's an excellent point though
And I don't I don't know if I've heard many people or anyone actually say that but those are thoughts. It's like, okay
You always hear people say well, my kid's not gonna be sitting on the ipad all day
And then there's a there's a there's a point to that
Yeah, but at the same time if that's what everyone else is doing you have to let them do it
Maybe you don't have to do it all day
But you don't want them to be the odd man
It's like what if I grew up as a kid and my parents said that you can never play video games
Like that would have robbed me from a lot of you know
My core childhood now and how I connected with friends and you know how I blow off steam now
But that would be like just because they saw video games as a way to keep kids inside and this and that like
I'm sure there are tons of parents that had that
perspective right like my kids not going to touch video games, but
Like I don't think that would have helped me you just have to
Watch what they're watching. Yeah, there's some mess right now. There's a lot of messed up things with ai
Well ai and just programming like there's a lot of shows without getting too deep into the weeds
There's a lot of kids programming that if you just
Cocoa melons bad if you sit there and you watch it. You're like what the f are they watching like hold up
What did they just say? Yeah, you know, what are they trying to do like just the the days of and I'm a little older than you are
But the days of like smurfs
You know something like purely innocent. They're gone. I go back though and I look like look at johnny bravo
From cartoon that's crazy. Yeah, but even that was like a teen show sort of
Was it though? I was watching that at like eight nine and he's super sexist
Like if you watch that stuff now, there's no way that that cartoon would have been you could look at him
I mean courage the cowardly dog like there was some like messed up kind of
Stuff that like, you know when I look at the stuff now
I try to think back like okay. Is this worse than when I was playing gta when I was
You know eight nine like
I think you just have to be there right?
You have to just be conscious of it. You have to set them up for success
Yep, you know you have to teach them the right things because you're not always going to be there
And they have to be able to say okay. This is okay. This is not okay. There's a lot of
I've seen some stuff just scrolling on facebook that has traumatized me right so that I never thought that I would see like people literally getting
You know
Yeah, and it almost brings me back to the whole tick tock thing right where there's
You see a clip a viral clip on lifelike say x right?
And you can see the little tick tock thing in the corner like how the hell did this make it through tick tock
When if I say if I give the camera the wrong look
Yeah, tick tock doesn't show my video to anybody like I just don't understand
But back to ai we talked about that really earlier. Yeah, you know, especially with sora being the most recent sora ai
Which is a chat gpt product or open ai product
Like
Now the videos look so real unless it's spongebob running from the cops
Yeah, if people don't know what they're looking at and that watermark's not there like how
Crazy is that?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it's uh
It's a turning point because like now
You know we used to be able to look at our phone or look at a video and like know that that's true
For the most part right like wil smith eating spaghetti was like a couple years ago the ai video
And like now you can't just look at look at your phone as an objective truth
Right like you have to question every like when I watch a crazy video now
I literally look to make sure that it's not ai or i'm looking for like extra fingers or
Whatever to pop up, you know, I think
like we're getting
I'm a little scared for like the future of
That and like open source versions of that that can obviously manipulate stuff for like cp or
You know, maybe somebody eventually is going to run a scam operation where just because my face is all over the internet
They can
Generate a video of me cheating on my wife and then send it to her and blackmail her and like oh, hey send me this money
And I'll send you these videos
Six months ago they could do that, but it doesn't really look like you and it's obvious right now
Dude, it looks just like you. Yeah, especially if you're not our generation like I mean, I'm I'm scared
I'm probably going to get scammed at some point. I'm not even a boomer
Like I'm scared for my grandma and like those people. I mean, yeah that lady downstairs right now
She shows us some of the craziest fucking videos. We're like mom. That's fake. So fake and they're like, how do you know?
Yeah, that's that's always the answer or no, it's not like they they almost refuse to believe it because it's like
I'm seeing it with my eyes and right before that's always told me that that's true. So
Yeah, I don't know. I think that there's a lot of weird stuff when it comes with AI and all the safeguards that they need to put on it
Not just for video, but like for everything. I don't know if you've seen the whole AI 2027
Stuff about, you know, us competing against China and how if they don't did you see the um
the
The study where AI blackmailed
The the CEO
No, I don't think so
So they ran this test across all of the major language models, right?
Where they basically put this language model inside of a business server where it could read emails
Was it the one that denied even doing it?
I'm not sure if it denied it
Okay, but they basically gave it access to read all emails reply respond search cues everything and they had they
They made up a scenario where like they had the CEO or the fake CEO
emailing somebody having a fake affair, right and then
the
They also had the CEO email the
IT department and say hey, we have a new language model. It's going to be uploaded tomorrow. This old one's going to be shut off
It was like eight or nine times out of ten the AI used the CEO's
Affair as blackmail
So that it wouldn't be shut off
So like I just think that there's a lot of things
That like we need to make sure of before AI
That might be it. I mean that that might was it
Maybe eight eight months ago. Yeah, I don't I don't know what's scarier is because like the stuff that we have now
You know the government has like ten times better, right? Like
Yeah, that's what scares me is like the stuff we're seeing on Sora and all that stuff. That's that's all level or that's like that's all version like
0.1 and they're on two point
Whatever, you know, they're they're very far ahead of us. I think and like I think that's what's scarier
So that's you know generating like generative AI. How do you think?
You know in what ways do you think AI would benefit your
Industry, we obviously know how we've heard we use it. I mean, I think that people who are against using it are just like
And too old of thinking, you know, it's like they're in the terminators taken over
But there's so many uses of AI not just to make a video but to help yeah, I mean, I guess for me
it's like, okay, if you were
um
What do they call the people that used to run the switchboards for calls?
switchboard operator
If you were one of those people would I mean would you be mad that they're releasing the telephone?
Right, probably. I mean the telephone's way better, right? You can call and put a hit on somebody
You can do a lot of bad things with the telephone switchboard off dispatcher one of those dispatcher. Yeah
The phone's just a better is better than a dispatcher, you know
So for me, it's like you're almost choosing the dispatcher instead of using the phone if you're not using AI right now because
Like this podcast, I don't know if you use autopod, but autopod can edit this whole thing in 10 minutes
Cut out all the mess it can place it can at least get you 80 percent of the way there
To where you have a base and then you can go in and tweak and move stuff around and which is a huge time saver
Yeah, and you brought autopod out and I had it written down somewhere and forgot all about it
You just brought it up. But you know, so thank you for doing that. Yeah, but yeah, I use you know
I'm an adobe guy. So there's adobe has a adobe podcast AI
And it's on version two something and I've been using it off and on but now I don't have to
I have to run this through the filters and audition
Less
Because now my final thing is always podcast AI because that'll get rid of some of those things and I'm just like, all right cool
and but yeah, that's a good I used uh
A speaker split that's an AI thing. Yeah, I don't need it for in here
But there's times where I do need speaker split when I get I'm getting one file with two different voices
You know, and that's that's AI so people don't realize the product of it
And your example is an excellent example about the switchboard dispatcher
Because I'm in healthcare IT
And we used to have well, I mean, there was a whole career
Path for people who call our jobs for transcriptionists. They take they take the radiologist recording on the phone
And they type what the radiologist says completely meaningless job
It's mean if you can automate it people don't use transcriptionist anymore. Yeah rarely
It's going to be a really rude awakening for our workforce in general
I mean, I think you've seen the whole job openings versus profits profits are way up, but yeah
They're cutting jobs because I mean
In in in the ai's defense like we just made a better tool, you know, like did you get mad at the
At the car factories when they started thinking that when they started using robots to produce it
Like it's really just thinking that it's just a better thing, you know, like and there are a ton of media and like
Data entry receptionist like things that now we've made a tool for they can use and those people unfortunately
They don't have a skill set or don't have like a specific thing that they know
Are going to be out meanwhile
I think like plumbers electricians like all of those trades all those trade works are going to shoot way up because like
That I think is like you have to wait for like the whole robot reconnaissance to even like think about a robot plumber coming to your house
or or whatever but
And in the end like people want to demonize ai but
Ai can't actually make anything like behind that video that you saw was a prompt that a human put in to make that piece of content
So that's why like people are like at least for now
Oh, well, but people are just said like aren't you scared that ai is going to take your job? I'm like, have you met a business owner?
Like they do they are so laser focused on their mission
They can't even upload a photo to instagram correctly
You think that they're going to be able to use some sort of ai platform that they understand nothing about
You know chat gpt has obviously made the use case and eases
The use case is very easy
Right, so where now you have grandparents that are using chat gpt and you have like a lot more integration
but I think when you get into like
The real weeds of like ai agents and ai content and like if you make that video
You still have to know a lot about photography. You have to you know
You have to like frame it like 50 millimeter shot with cinematic colors and you know
You have to tell it all of these things where if you're not experienced you don't necessarily know how to make a good video
It's funny you say that because I was going through the prompts in my head as you said that and in that
Now on the head that you have to know what you're talking about because I could ask
Grock or jim and I or chat gpt or any of those to create something for me
And I never would have thought 50, you know 50 millimeter shot at f stop this this
I'll know to put which my mother-in-law wouldn't know my wife wouldn't know I know to say
You know midday
You know early and then give a scene and give a scene
Yeah, and then evaluate it if I like it if I like it if I don't I don't but to your point
You still have to have the knowledge going in on what you're looking for and I think that human element
You know, especially in a career like yours, you know is never going to change
Yeah, and there's going to be new industries made. I mean the whole the whole thing with the amazon delivery drivers has said earlier
Yeah, I mean I think that this is like r.com boom
Right like if you're not interested or find out a way that you can make money with ai
Then I just think that you're just like off the train in general, you know
Like there are so many different use cases
So many different ways that you could just improve your own workflows or improve whatever it is
um
Yeah, it's just like a weird like scary but exciting
place to be in you know
Let's go back about ai. What do I think about ai? Uh, I
Pretty much what you think, you know, I think it's it is it can be dangerous
Uh, I don't I think there's an argument is you know, do we need to have?
Certain guidelines on it and right now I think the most strict guideline is it needs to be watermarked
I think it always has to be watermarked. Okay. Here's a scarier situation. Okay a rogue ai
Language model or whatever super computer they put it in gets out right whatever copies itself to a file
some jarvis itself jarvis shit
And they end up, you know creating a secret bunker where they're build a bio
Weapon that is literally paid for off siphoned funds and all of it is run behind some
Blackface ai right like I mean it could transfer data. It can get access to anything it wants
It can siphon funds. It could you know, like I
I don't know that for me is just where like
drone warfare
And yeah, all that shit. It's it's crazy. It's weird, but it's here. Yeah, and you know, what are we gonna do to make sure?
It's I guess regulated is the term I was looking for but there's only so much regulation you can do
There's going to be our regulations aren't going to be the same thing as china's regulations or as Israel's regulations
You know the geopolitically we can't really control anybody else's regulations
And that's the danger of it. I think it's it's like cyber warfare now. I have a computer science degree
And in cyber warfare, there's a war behind the war that people don't know about
And that's the cyber warheads. That's why people are continuously trying to take down our grid and we're continuously fighting
You know to keep it up to keep it up
Yeah, and I think ai is going to be the same thing for the crazy stuff. Yeah on the consumer level
I think it's just going to be a benefit, but I think we still have to be careful
I mean quantum computers and being able to like literally crack encrypted passwords and
Seconds and stuff that would have taken tens of years like that that stuff. I think is where you get into like
Really crazy data security of everybody on the planet, you know, so security numbers logins like
Well, that's the thing for everybody trying to crack that there's a team of people
They're a step behind or a step ahead and yeah, it's constantly going back and forth. So yeah, that's kind of
From the it side though. What do you think about like where that's going to take us?
Like what can you do as it to like make an impenetral barrier that
ai can't get through
It's just well, it's network security essentially at the end of the day because they're they're generating it and that's not
I don't do network security, but that's really what it is and that's no different than
The example of the cyber warheads that I was talking about trying to take the grid down
But you can use ai tools obviously to make your work easier, you know for what I do
You know, it's incredibly advanced, but it's also incredibly antiquated in some parts
And it's like, okay guys, can we develop something that makes this part easier because
There's no reason why it's this way now
and
You know, can we develop something that?
You know gets rid of this because this is dumb as hell. So I think that
When we hear ai it's such a it's such a broad broad thing, right? It's like when I say it's like a trigger word now
Yeah, but like when I say I'm in healthcare IT people are like, oh, okay, cool. Well, my mouse won't connect. I'm like, yeah, that's desktop support
That's what came into my mind. It's like network. Hey, can you fix my wi-fi?
Right, exactly. You know, that's desktop support, you know, or that's whatever support, you know
What I do is emr is electronic medical records and very specifically a radiology portion on a very specific software package system
Um, but I you know as far as all the other stuff, but you know saying ai is almost like seeing it at this point, right?
Yeah, so
We've also had ai for a long time. We just called it algorithm
Yeah, honestly, like I mean a lot of the stuff the companies have like with the chat bots like I mean you you could message
amazon support and get an automated agent how long ago that that was ai that was a language model that was
That was a very limited language model, but you're correct and how it's a much more advanced, but it's still
You know, I just don't think that people know that like, you know, we're getting stuff that they've had
Already and the this stuff is just being repackaged a lot of times and is now consumer available when they've been using it
All the buzzwords, right all those things people been talking about the cloud for 12 years at least
You know and then the commercials are all about the cloud now. You don't hear about that anymore, but it's just it's the same people
Like where's the cloud? Well, no, it's it's a fucking server. Yeah. Yeah
It's an array of servers
But what do you think that this whole ai infrastructure and all this is going to do to like data centers and
Like because that's the big whole new thing is data centers
Um
I think it's the same response as I had before honestly, you know, I mean, it's it's just another
Computer technology that's out there and it's going to have you know, I think they're going to use ai to
On the good end finding find the holes and exploits and say, okay. I just ran through your system
Here's the six places you need to show up. Yeah, you know versus
Go through and find the holes and destroy everything aka virus
Yeah, I think I'm just a little pessimistic when it comes to like
You know our leaders doing the right thing, you know, because
Our system is just so controlled by puppet strings and like and it's been well say ai could make a cure for cancer
Do you think big pharma would let that come out? No, absolutely not
So that's why I almost because it's a it's a disruptor
Yeah, or if we had some other alternative to alcohol or whatever it is
Whatever they're making money off of is just what always scares me
And that's just why I think like
I don't know if we're ready for the tech because I i'm not sure personally that humans as a whole
Do the right thing or that they can you know, everybody people
Everything's driven by self-interest. That's in some level
Some people's self-interest is greater than the others a corporation's self-interest is greater than the others
You know and and I agree with you
big pharma makes a lot of money
and
It's weird, you know, I have a I have a section called conspiracy corners. We may have to do that at some point
We can't do it right now
Building seven. Yeah. Yeah
Exactly
We can't do that right now, but at some point, you know
As an easter egg to people at some point this guy may be one of the because the thing is
We never say who the person is
And I make it look kind of like an old school throwback where I change the voice and just make it look stupid
And it's just 10 minutes of just fun shit. Just yeah, just don't get me cancelled, you know
Yeah, actually the logo is a tinfoil hat. Yeah
I'll text it to you. You're just gonna laugh. It's a version of this
That's hilarious. Yeah, every logo is a version of that. I actually thought about wearing it, you know, but I mean think
There's always gonna be something out there
And there's always things that are driven by self-interest, you know anything
That's revolutionary is an industry disruptor and an industry disruptor people just disappear. Yeah, you know, and it's like
For everybody who says we're nutty tinfoil hat people said, okay, explain to me what happened to
Tyler Patterson once he said this. He just really just disappeared. Yeah. Well, you know the whole thing about the white house chefs
Like there's this like weird thing about the white house. No, like depending on the president like the last like four or five
White house. I know one guy drowned in like two
Randomly. Yeah
So, yeah, I mean, I think it's it's it's weird. Okay to be skeptical of our government when you find some question everything
Yeah, of course
And there's people who don't and you don't have to be obsessed about it
Some people are but it's okay. It's okay to question things and check different sources of different news
I guess and in different communications. So yeah, I think that's
Like going back to social media. That's one of the weird things just like seeing
Like the comment section on any videos like usually one of the most toxic things that you can ever experience
It's like people all have an opinion
Some people are just
Absolutely stupid. Some people don't have a brain to think for themselves. It's crazy to think and some people are bots
And they're right next to like those people who don't have internal monologues are just like walking around amongst you and like
Well, it's funny you say that because I say that the pandemic smoked
A lot of people out. So if you just pay attention on like
Facebook at the time, you're like, wow, like I know this person like wow, they feel that way. Yeah
Like that's crazy, you know, and it's just yeah
It's I think it's it's the controversy exposes people
Oh, I'm looking charlie kirk. Yeah, like me and you love cars
You know, we're gonna love cars, but you know, we've hung out at the car meet a few times, but you know
Now I know you you hate x x x x and that has happens to be I was like, what the fuck is this?
Yeah, it's crazy that people can't like still be friends and have differing opinions anymore
A thousand percent like you have to either like completely agree with somebody or disagree or you just like can't even
Coincide right like that's I think is what we're getting
Worse that is just all the division, you know
Yeah, I mean
You brought that up and we don't have to talk about it, but what do you think about that whole situation with charlie kirk?
Uh, I mean put on the tinfoil hat again
But with everything coming out about like all the weird stuff that's surrounding it
I mean it just gives me a lot of weird swirl on it another like thing to question in general
But just in a box
prior to the tinfoil hat, you know, I mean
It sucks, right? I mean left or right anybody to get killed for your views or whatever. I mean
It sucks. I mean, uh
I I try to stay away from politics like almost completely because I hate both sides like I
Think that our system is just messed up, you know, and I don't think that our
The way that we do it is is good anymore. I don't think it makes sense in this day and age
You know, maybe it did back in the 1800s or whatever, but
Um, how dare you say that? Yeah, I know it's it's I mean that's what's because like I
I aligned with a lot of people on the right about a lot of stuff
And then I like aligned with people on the left about a lot of stuff
And I think that's what the hardest to me is like
Why should somebody be like so radically one way or the other when they're of power, right? Like
It's not black and white and it's it's weird to me that people have that thought
It's like I can you can be a conservative with progressive views
Yeah, and you can be a progressive
So so left of center with some conservative views and that's okay
But in the end you're either a republican or a democrat which sucks, right?
Like you get boxed into you get boxed into one of the or an independent which people just look at you
And you're like, yeah, you just don't want to tell us what you are then it doesn't matter, right? Then it doesn't matter
Then it doesn't matter. So
like, you know
It's crazy, right?
It's someone very close to me the other day was reading something
And they go, oh, I really like that and I go, what is that and they were they were reading a quote from like a famous actor
And they had said something about the kirk thing. Yeah, and I was like, oh
I go, well
What do you think about that? And they're like, yeah, well this person, you know, this guy was hate and he yelled at people. I said, no, he didn't
I go, I've watched enough to know it and yeah, regardless, you don't have to agree with everyone, but
The algorithm that this person followed was feeding them clips and that's how it is on both sides
Yeah, and so I've sent them videos of like people watching and responding to trying to be non-partisan about it
As moderate as about it. And I don't know if they've watched it. They probably not but it's it's just it sucks
That you can have such a strong opinion about something without actually knowing anything about it
And did you see there was like, uh
There was some tiktok study or something about how tiktok is like rage baiting people based on the comments and based on
Your algorithm. So basically
Depending on your views or the algorithm, you know, if you load into a video, it might show you different comments first
Yeah, it's crazy. So you you might have like stuff that either supports your views or maybe it's the most rage baity thing
Right, but I think that's also what's hard with social media is that in the end
It's it's all about self preservation for them and they want
As many eyes as on the screen for as long as possible like that is their business
Which is the echo chamber approach
and
I mean, you can't believe them. They're making millions and millions of dollars off of advertising
So like until something else comes and changes it up. Maybe it's vr, right? And maybe that I still don't know if that's ever gonna
Get to the place that people think
Dude like for a long time and like now we're just getting you know, like the meta ar
screen and stuff like that
I think that there's just like a big pushback from like
Going all in on digital, you know, people think that we're like too connected to the net and you know, we need to get off their phones
There's like this whole anti
internet movement too
To your point to your faults, you know, you're married to your phone
Right, and so it's it's kind of one of those deals and I
My wife will tell you I'm always on my phone. I'm not always on my phone. Yeah
She's always on her phone
And those tiktok videos and stuff like that
But I know there's a time when
You know, you have to put the phone down and just watch the programming on tv for sure for entertainment. You can't
And a lot of people do both. Yeah, you know, but you I'm convinced you cannot watch you cannot binge a show and be on your phone
You know, you're gonna miss things that are important, right? Of course
Um, but that's that's a part of it man. We're just addicted to all that kind of stuff
They made it addicting though. It's like can you blame can you blame us as consumers for being addicted to something that you engineered to be addictive?
I forgot who the gas was at the time, but I brought this up and I'm gonna butcher it again
But I want to say it's the social dilemma
I'm gonna say it's the social dilemma
Have you seen that? I think it's on netflix
It basically just talks about everything you just said as as far as facebook at one point was doing that
I mean, it just based on what you watch it just feed you something else
Of course, and then you end up down this rabbit or you end up being steered a certain way and have no idea that's happening
Sometimes I have to I have to like I don't know if you do this too, but you ever get stuck like
The algorithm sometimes knows like when you're in a bad mood like I'll be fighting with my girl or something
I'll be on tiktok. I'll just get like served up these like
The relationship advice videos, right? And then you watch one or two of them and that's all you get and then that's all you get
Right, so then I have to start like training my own algorithms. I don't want that anymore
I want to get back to the cars and then oh land on a car video stop and watch it
Even if I don't want to watch it
I'm training my algorithm for that because
That's I think that that is the biggest thing actually to people where they say like the internet is such a bad place
It's like yeah, you're watching bad content on it
And so it just feeds that to you
It it feeds you the stuff that you're going to go in the comments and hate reply to because you don't agree with it or
You have control
Yeah, you have you have more control than you think you have
You just have to understand that you're being steered, right and like my algorithm. I mean
Would I go back and change it for no phone?
Absolutely not because it's put me into this place. My phone is my life outside of my physical life
Yeah, and I mean
I don't know. I definitely think there's a balance because I get on it too much
And sometimes I'll just find myself picking up my phone just to check an app and it's just like
Subconscious now, you know, I can almost like but you catch yourself doing it. I catch it
Myself
Yeah, and it's like I don't know if you've ever had the point where you're like maybe you live by yourself or
You just keep going back and forth and opening the fridge. Mm-hmm
Yeah, it's like whatever is there still still gonna be there. Yeah. I think it's kind of one of those deals
Yeah, I mean but also so to your point where you're like, uh, you know, my wife says I'm always on my phone
But she actually is I think this is like the one of the things that
Maybe gets me a little upset about how my partner uses her phone is that when I'm on my phone
Yeah, sometimes I might be watching entertaining videos, but a lot of times I'm doing I'm responding to somebody in a text for work
Or I'm learning or I'm learning something from a video
I'm consuming some piece of content that's actually gonna help me
Versus be like a brain rot like I'm not just there scrolling tick tock for hours looking for mindless funny videos
You know, I'm looking for audio to use for our next video. I'm looking for an idea that I thought was really good and trendy
I'm seeing what new trends are even happening in like the ecosystem of social media. So
It's hard very similar right because just it's the same deal or I might be looking for something specific
You know, or I'm responding to somebody and I said it's that it's different when I'm sending voice notes to somebody and having a conversation
Yeah, I'm on my phone, but I'm literally communicating with a real person in my life about stuff
It's not just sitting there going like this. Yeah, but that's just that's just what people do
You know, I was on my computer right here typing an email. You probably wouldn't have that same perception of me just scrolling on my phone versus, you know
Yeah, yeah watching tick tock for eight hours. Like what did you do?
Let me ask you this for people who want to get to where you're at
You know, what would you
What would you tell them most of the number one advice you think you would give to somebody's like?
Hey, I see what you guys doing on txp media. Yeah
I want to do that sit down and like I'm a big like pen and paper like write stuff
You know, like I don't do notes a lot. So like physically writing stuff really helps me
So I would go down and I would
I would say write a list of all of the things that you like
right like hiking football
video games whatever
Find something that you have like the most knowledge about and like just literally start making content, you know, like just
Start making stuff and just put it out there
And just like just see see where it takes you, you know, like we're in the content
jackpot right now to where you can have a brand new page and just go do two million views on a video if you have a good enough perspective or
you know, whatever you
Used to you have you used to have to have like a cinema camera and whatever to like make really cool content
I really don't think people care as much about that anymore like at all
like you look at cletus mcfarland or
Whistlin diesel and they still use iPhones to to film their content
It feels more grounded doesn't feel like it has as much production value
So like using the whole gear excuse isn't a thing like anybody has a phone now
Anybody can go download cap cut and just edit from their phone
like there's it's honestly surprising at how good the editing tools are on mobile now like
um
Yeah, like niche down like find a specific thing or like one or two pillars of content that you really know about
And then just try stuff right and then also it's it's go out and meet people
You know, I never would have part is a big part
I never would have had any sort of social standing or people hitting me up for videos if
If the five years before that I wasn't on facebook every day
Like just being interactive with people, you know, because I think that that is why
Like so many people just interact with me because their algorithm like I would interact with them
It's not hard if you're scrolling past facebook to just like actually like somebody's post or comment on it and say
Good job, bro. I'm really like how many times you scroll past facebook and like or mute them
Yeah, and you and like you never do anything with that
But that's how you actually build those personal
Like connections like having somebody's name pop up on their notifications
Say tyler patterns and commented on this if I can get my name in front in front of as many people
Whether it's a comment or not that I'm just gonna still be top of mind whenever
It comes up, you know
So meet people
Knees down figure out what you know most about and then just like
You have to have the quantity to find the quality
So you have to try a bunch of stuff to figure out what works and to pivot into that
You know, it's I love that answer. It's the same deal. Like you don't need all of this to do a podcast
Yeah, you know a lot of this is because it motivates me to keep doing it. Yeah, honestly
It's it's for my psyche than anything else because to your point people don't I've seen podcasts that have just
Shitty cameras shitty mics that constantly peak above zero and it drives me crazy
Like I hate it more than anything in the world
But they're gonna have 700,000 views or because it's about the content too. Yeah, not just the quality. So I think that's important
Tyler paterson spin great gxp underscore media. Yes, sir. I want to thank you so much for coming by heart parking
I appreciate you and you know, it's gonna stay in contact. Yeah, we know some of the same people till conspiracy time
That's right. We're not gonna tell people win. No, but yeah, I can't wait. It'll be fun. It's good to see man. Thanks for having me
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