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Let's Talk Cars Radio, Dave Polasch. Hey, guys, welcome Let's Talk

Cars Radio on WKQA Freedom Radio. I'm your host, Big DAVP hanging out

with Cameron Chaos and Nate Vb. It is a great day for a radio

show. I'd like to say it's a great day for a car show,

but it definitely depends on where you're at. If you guys didn't hear us

talk a little earlier, we gave you guys a little little break there about five minutes ago, telling you guys, we're getting ready to come on the air. I told you guys in our areas, we got some clouds.

Looks like a little bit of some rain clouds are out there. I was

talking about. They did cancel the Mustang Clubs show that was here in town

because they were worried about the weather, and I can understand. So it

looks like they are going to be rescheduling for May six. So if you

guys are planning on heading out to that, I just know that, Yeah, that unfortunately did get canceled. There are some pop up shows and some

cars and coffees and stuff that areupposed to kick off tomorrow. I'm hoping if

everything it works out that maybe we'll get a chance to get out there.

We had had a chance to talk over with the guys yet and see if we can rustle ourselves up in the morning and get out there. But hopefully

we get our chance to get out to a couple There's a couple of different shows are going on different times. I'd like to kind of hit a couple

of be kind of cool, But like I said, we'll see how that works works out. But yeah, it's been an interesting week. A lot

of different stuff going on, a lot of different things in the works.

I've been telling you guys, Hey, so just so you guys know, put it on your calendar. The very first Wheels and Reels is April twenty

ninth. Top Gun the original is going to be the movie that's playing.

I've been telling you guys, really important, cool project. You know.

They are kicking it off last year over there at Landstown Common with a car club Council of Hamper Roads. So I've been telling you guys over and over

again, very cool old style drive in theater style where you drive in, you can sit, and you can wash the movie there. It's a really

cool thing. So put it on your calendar, tell your friends, tell

your community posted up, get it out there at everybody really cool event April twenty ninth. So you guys are gonna want to go ahead and get out

to this event and park Popcorn. Mulan is gonna be doing some finger foods

and stuff. You got Firehouse sub there. You can get some food,

you can sit, you can have a good time, you can watch a movie. You know. I just think it's really neat thing to do with

the family and stuff. I like to see a huge turnout for this event.

We're gonna be doing a bunch of these different events with a car club council throughout the year. They're trying to stick to the cooler dates, so

you'll see a little breakthrough during the warmer months and then we'll come back around as it starts to cool back off again and do them. So look for

those dates to be posted up. But yeah, the first one is going

to be coming here on the twenty ninth. Big push for this because I

really believe in this event. I think it's really important. So like I

said, definitely get on a schedule. We're gonna be involved in some and

hosting some as well. I told you guys about those days, So we'll

have all those dates and stuff. We'll post it up for you guys.

So yeah, really really cool thing. I'm really excited about being involved in

this year. A lot of different car shows we're gonna be popping up up

this year as well. Big huge thank you to NAPA BDG Group. We're

gonna be tied up with this this year. Our sponsors. I told you

guys that Livery Transmissions can be sponsoring event, Speedy Auto Auto Service can be sponsoring one of those events this year. I did talk with Courthouse um Imports

yep, so they were going to jump on a sponsor event as well.

Looks like that event is already gonna be sponsors, So we're gonna team up with him in some other different ways somehow. But a lot of people jumping

on board this year. I'm very very humbled. You know, I told

you guys at Triple A Tidewater, you know they jumped on with this year out at Landstown. They're sponsoring a bunch of different stuff about the course of

the year that we have going down. Their anchor mobile Concrete this year has

jumped on graciously on board sponsor a bunch of different stuff with the Car Club Council. So very very humbled to have a lot of big sponsors this year

helping us out. It's very very cool. So thank you, thank you,

thank you for everybody that's gotten gotten involved. Uh and is you know,

just getting getting on board with all that stuff. It's very very cool,

you know, Like I said, you know, we're in our eighth year with the show and just have so many great sponsors be tied up with us and be involved with all these different things and helps this community you know, I'm big, big, involved with a lot of community stuff. So

to have there are all these people just out there and just tied up with us and helping us all these different commune events. This is very very cool.

And like I said, you know, you just told me eight years ago when we started this show that we'd have so many great sponsors and stuff and be involved with so many great people, you know, seven by seven out events. Mark, you know huge. Everybody knows doctor Mark, And

like said, you know we met a long time ago. Him and I

clicked instantly. Just really good people and stuff. And John over there with

the Car Club Council and you got you guys know with clear Shine, you know, great guys as well. Just you know, good people be tied

up with. And it's it's been really really good. So anyway, great

community. Yeah, keep bringing the community together. Yeah, absolutely, just

community event man, it's great. You guys know how much I love being

involved community in our charity that we do. Were in Christmas time and everything,

So just kind of wanted to put that out there. So yeah,

look for these dates. We can keep on posting out dates and stuff like

that. I said, I'm kind of sad because I was looking forward to

getting out to the Mustang Clubs event. But uh, like I said,

no, Flaret, it's gonna be you know, rescheduled here here in Maine stuff. So we'll get back out and get that going stuff. So no,

what was today though we're not today, but yesterday, what was that?

It was Courthouse Shells thirty year anniversary. I didn't see that get post.

I mean, I just I just saw Steve and I didn't see Courthouse Your anniversary was, well, happy birthday. Everybody knows Steve over there at

Courthouse shell Uh, it's right across from the courthouse and very convenient. Just

so you guys know, if you you know, hey, let's just say you how to go to court for ticketers up and if you're if you're gonna be there for a little while and you needed to get some gas or it's a little bit of pairs or you work over the courthouse, you could drop your car off over there, let the work get done while you're working, and pick a car up on your way home. But yeah, it's kind

of staple of the community over there forever. Not say I went to court,

but hey, yeah, so uh definitely, Hey, guys, I want to jump into day. Like I said, I've been taking a lot

of different questions um on brakes, you know. And I got in a

conversation with my buddy Paul out there in Arizona, and him and I were talking about breaks because he's thinking about changing the brakes on his wife's car, so they have a twenty eighteen accord, and him and I got into conversation, and so I started going down the rabbit hole, and then then I posted it out and started asking questions to our you know, our listeners and stuff like that is what they thought about breaks and stuff. And as you

go down that rabbit hole, a lot of people have different opinions and stuff.

So he had posted the question, and I thought it was kind of anesting. He was thinking about going to slotted rotors and or slotted and drilled

rotors and stuff, and so we kind of start talking to look to see what was out there. And I guess originally I thought it might be a

good idea. And I know you had talked about doing it when you had

the BMW a little bit and going to you know, upgraded brake system and stuff on to BMW. I'm pretty sure I think I just had drilled.

Yeah. So um, and I know Cameron on the Z Car. I

think you had slotted and drilled yeah on the on the Z Car because I was trying to do the big break up grades on it. Yeah, yeah,

I was trying to do my goal. My whole goal with the car

was to do brimbo breaks with drill Dan slotted. But suspension got the best

of me. So here's the thing. So as I went down the rabbit

hole. Now I have a break kit for the trans Am that I'm not

gonna be putting on it. I'm gonna go ahead and change to a different

break break kit that actually is being given to me. So a buddy of

mine has one that he took off his Camaro and he's gonna give that to me. So I'm not gonna put the one that I have setting aside for

it. But I guess here's the thing. So you know, the trans

Am is a performance car. Okay, obviously it's a hot Roden stuff like

that. So you're willing to do a little given, a little take when

it comes to a performance car. And so you guys would agree upon that,

right right, all right? So with that being said, what's going

to look better. What's really going to reduce the power is, well,

stop so much power though, you're not really gonna give up anything on power, but training one thing and for another. Right, So yeah, you

know I understood. So what brought Paul down the rabbit hole, I guess

a little bit was is they're going through breaks quite a bit on the Accord, so they put they put a lot of brakes on it, so it's driving it and Angie's driving it as wife's driving it, So we run into that a little bit, I guess with our wife's driving the car and stuff like that or us. You're bad on breaks, I mean, camera's camera's

horrible on breaks. I'm I'm a little bad on breaks, a little bad.

You're horrible on breaks. I'm a little bad. I'm hearing I need

new breaks and I need oil change. Yeah, I need an own food

to change right now. I just check oil yesterday. I was just like,

yeah, it's about time for an oil change. Cameron goes through breaks

like like nobody's business. I mean, so he's he's really he's really bad

on brakes. He goes through breaks. Um like I'm gonna say, like

every ten thousand miles Cameron needs front brakes. I mean it's bad. I

don't know how he does it. I just I swear he drives with his

foot just riding on the brake pedal. No, actually don't. I don't

hit my brakes a lot. I rode with you. He rides breaks doesn't.

No, I don't really ride my brakes. Way do you guys think

me riding my brakes is not oka closely and in your Yeah, he heartbreaks.

He's constantly heartbreaks. And that's why his roders get warped the way they

do. Yeah, his brakes get his rodors get warped because he he literally

like he'll get up on you. Yeah, exactly. So Paul, he

was telling me that they run to the point point where they put a lot of brakes on it. Now here's the thing. So I will I will

give you some gon give you some slack a little bit because as I researched Paul's car, your car comes up too that you get accessive breakaware on that car. That car gets successive breakway. Your cars in that category as well.

So the accords me hold on. So the accord, it just means

the car is a very sensitive accords are supposed to get anywhere from thirty to seventy thousand miles on a set of break pads, is what it says.

But if you go in and dive down the rabbit hole like I did, accords tend to If if it's what they call an aggressive driver who tends to break hard or break late or anything like that, then the Accord has a problem with eating up break pads, is what it says. So you're not

getting the thirty thousand out of them, You're getting fifteen to seventeen out of them, is what is what it says instead, which is the course of a year on year, one year, that's what you'll get out of them.

So every year you're putting set of break pads on it, and or rotors because if you're if you're an aggressive break pad, you're warping the rotors.

So you start to get that feeling. Okay, So now I can

see where there's that problem, especially if you're that that type of driver, which I know Cameron is without that's the reason why we're constantly doing breaks on his car. So your car tells you everything about your driving. Well,

I taught you that you can't lie, You cannot lie about like, nope, what you do in your vehicle? And so I'm tried to just yeah,

he'll try to lie to me. So, you know, I used

to always laugh because when I was in the automotive industry on a daily basis, especially in the garage side of things, and I'd have a customer come in and give one of my managers a hard hard time or giving one of my service riders a hard time, and it had, you know, escalate it past them to the point where I had to get involved and it would get kicked up to me and I finally I would have to come out of the office and go, you know, mister customer, what is it that we can do to make you happy? And they would I would listen,

they tell me their side of the story, and I go, well, can you give me a second, I'm gonna go out. I want to

I want to physically put my eyes on the car. When I physically put

my eyes on the car, the car doesn't lie. The car tells on

you. I mean the car. Everything I need to know about the car,

it's gonna tell on you. I can look at your car and go,

you drive, You drive like a Jack Lake. I mean like the

car. Literally, it's gonna show me all the heat spots in the roator.

It's gonna, you know, the breaks are gonna tell the story.

And then I'm gonna come back in and go your your story is false, Like don't and I'm not trying to be rude to you, but your car, like literally is the biggest tattletale. It's gonna it has told me everything

I need to know about you and your driving habits, no matter what you because they were like, well, I drive like a grandmother. I don't

understand why I'm having so many problems after you guys have done work on my car, and I'm like looking at the car, going, holy cow, look at the heat spots in the rotor. And you know, I mean

like in life, that tells you tell us just on you without even trying to yourself. Your well, I guess three things, yourself, your house,

and your car. It's where you spend the most time at so of

course they're going to see everything in your house and right yea, your car.

You know, it tells a lot about you. You're right about that

tells a lot about you. It does so like I said, I mean

the car, the brakes are a big identifier is how you drive your car.

Tires are a big identifier about how you drive your car too, though, those those those things you know so up keeping how you drive your car, I'm gonna know a lot about you by looking at your tires and looking at your brakes. Is it time for a tire rotation for me? In

my lights on? I don't know. I take a look at your car,

I don't. I don't physically walk around your car as much as I

used to because it's not here in the driveway anymore. Everybody should do that,

by the way, everybody, you should just walk around their car and check it out. You'll be amazed of what you find. Um, I

tell everybody like, I don't understand why people just don't, like in the morning before you go to work or something like that, why you just don't do a walk around your car. People just walk to their car, open

the door and then it started and drive. When you get your d v

L, like avoid your license around your car, check for glass should you do or anything? There's a reason why you do a point in specially hold

that note, guys, we'll dive a little bit deeper into this. I

gotta take quick merci break. When we come back more on breaks, you're

gonna want to hear some more about it. I'll talk to you soon.

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Welcome back to Let's Talk Cars Radio, your automotive specialist. Now back

to your host, Dave Palach. Hey, guys, welcome back. So,

if you're with us, before we went to commercial break, we were talking about breaks. So here's the thing. There's a point of the conversation,

even though, like I said, and a lot of people jumped in and gave me their opinions. So let's just say that you're having a break

issue and you're like, oh, okay, well, you know I got a break issue. And that was one of the things that Paul and I

were talking about. So He's like, you know, I just want I'm

tired of putting brakes on the car all so often, so I think I want to, you know, move to like a slotted rotor and maybe a drilled rotor or whatever. Everybody say, hey, Ricky, Hey, Ricky.

Yep, he's coming on the chef, so everybody say so and I and I feel for him. So that's what made me go down the rabbit

hole a little bit deeper as I was talking to people and asking their opinion, and I really don't think that's a solution. And I got back to

him after I went down the rabbit hole, but I was like, hey, you know, I don't think that's gonna be, you know, a true solution for you. And here's the reason why slotted rotors and drilled rotors

and stuff like that really aren't made for a daily driver. It's just a

look. It's not it has a purpose. It's not a look. It

has a purpose. It obviously airs everything out. But here's the thing,

Okay, there's something that you give up with putting that in your car.

They're noisy, they have road noise. Yeah, there's road noise to him,

So them baby's break there. Well, no, no, no,

it's true though anybody break change are just slotting the road. And he's like,

no, no, they just got stare. You can pull up next

to the guy. Just a spinning of them, just the spinning of them

when you touch the brakes. There is a hard surface noise to them.

Okay, so you have that noise to them, so you have to give up. Will they last longer? The answer is no, they won't either.

So you not only not only you giving up ride noise on a car that should be quiet anyway, because the two surfaces they're they're spinning together, but they don't even they're not even the last song, you're gonna burn up pads actually quicker, Like with it being slotted, it now has something to cut into it. You know, we're not, it's just a little bit

more. Still, purpose is for a high breaking. That's all reason for

the you know, so if you're not high, you're cooling, you're cooling everything quicker, Yeah, just dissipating heat right, right, So I understood where he was going with He was like, well, you know, I she seems to you know, be warping rotors, you know, quickly because of you know, so so I understand where he was going with it.

So, you know, as I went further and further down the thing, I was like, well, he's not really a conversation. His a's going

to give up, you know, So what about just doing one? What

about just drilling? Would that help? Okay? So it's funny. So

as I went down the rabbit hole, like okay, what's the solution, I did come up with a solution for him that gives them the best of both worlds. Just vent it rots just do difference between that and well you

don't. You won't be given up the noise for a noise problem that again

vented, then vent then rotors. Yeah, so they have rotors just venet.

You see them, you just don't realize it. Instead of being all

the way through and slott, they just have Vennett blades running in the roador instead of being a blank and that's what you call a regular rotor, it's just a blank, it's just flat. That's called a blank. Then you

have Vennett which just has a little vents carved endo them. They're way through

and that helps dissipate the heat so you don't have the sound problem. Okay,

And then you don't have the grinding noise either. Okay, I know

you're talking about Okay, yeah, you see them, yeah, scratch marks a yeah. And they're venet so they dissipate the heat quicker because they allow

the air to flow better, and that would be the happy medium and you don't have the noise problem. And I think that would help them better as

I went through and did all the research. So if you're running into that

problem and you guys think there is that you can buy them. You can

buy Bennett Rotor for it instead of having to go full drill and you can use that on your daily driver without because truly, Slott rotor drill rotor is complete overkill for a daily driver and you're getting all that noise and you're gonna wear down pads occur, so you're not really helping yourself and you spend more money on the pads, right, you know what I mean. It's like

you've just you've gone to complete overkill. And here's a thing. There's all

the different types of pads. We haven't even jumped into that. If you're

having problem with pads, you're wearing down pads, just go to a better grade pad. Try that you know what I mean, do a better grade

pad, and better grade pads dissipate heat better too by using a different material pad. Right, come on, so they have card Quest card Quest Silver.

But okay, I understand that. But here's the thing. Sometimes people

match up wrong pads with stuff too. They they're like, oh, I

got the gold pad. I'm like, well that doesn't mean anything. You

could have just got the gold pad and it's still made out of a crappy material, Like, right, what is it called? What's I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, what's I'm like, what's it made out of?

Like that has a lot to do with it. Is it a graphite

pad? What's what's the paid pad made out of? Just because it had

a gold box doesn't mean it's still a good pad. You only paid twelve

dollars for the pad. He was in a gold box. It's still a

twelve dollars pad. You laugh if that happens, Like, like, do

a little bit of research and find out what the power made. Asked what

pads I wanted, and I was given that option. Do you want off

the bronze or old? But you know, I said, well, I

guess we're going gold. Do they have a platinum? And you're like,

You're like, well, what am I pains? What about titanium? Do

you have a titantum? And they're like, well we do, yeah,

No matter what I asked, I was like, you guys have it?

Huh yeah? Why didn't we start off at titanium and work our way down

from there? I mean, why is there five options but you only offer

to me the three? But it doesn't it makes a difference. Find out

what the pads are made out of, and do just do a little bit of research because what the pad is constructed of it's a lot to do with dissipation of heat. A lot of people don't think about that. But here's

a question, right, okay, all right, So we have so many different paths, right, we do tons different Absolutely, why we just get rid of all of them and just have one good pad? We have to

go through all that mess because people are cheap, like quality quality, Because people are cheap, Why do we let's follow your path? You're you're different,

are you? Look? I know quality, right, I'll pay for

quality. But I'm just saying, like, you got six different pads and

we all know what the better one is. Stick with one what we got

me because people are like this, Niel, are you going we can make it? Go to the grocery store because you because you tend to lean towards

the quality. He goes to the grocery store, stands in the milk island.

Pay two dollars for milk? Or do where I want to know where

you're buying milk two dollars? What I want to know? You let me

know where you're getting milk in two dollars, I'm like, or I'm going quality. Here's the thing Nathaniel is is he is true. He's good with

money. He's very very good money. I'll get he's but he we have

bronze, silver and gold because of people like him. We do. I

would just go gold. You know, you don't know, you don't You've

never gone just gold. I don't know if I really want to spend this

bunch like I can't cow many times I've been in a store with you that I've been there for an hour when I should have only been there for fifteen minutes because you sit there and stick. When I bought a laptop, when

I'm looking at car guys right a right, looking at the top tier most likely, right, So it's like, all right, why would I spend this when I mean, you're right, you look at the top tier, but then you talk yourself out of the top tier every time. Yes,

yes, yes, He's like, that's you, is you? That's why

we have the different tiers. I can go pay fifteen grand for a car,

and then the next day it's well, I'm gonna go buy two a grand car or a three grand car. And it's like, well, cars

aren't that price anymore, buddy, but why are you're gonna go get a car? I'll find one. I'll find one. It's more like a year.

You don't want to buy anything with him, fan, I'm gonna tell you right now, you don't want to go any place with Nathaniel. He'll

keep you there for three hours discussing it, and then you walk out of the store with b without buying anything, without buying anything. It happens every

time. That's why every time he asked me, he's like, hey,

do you want to go look at somethingime I'm think about buying. I'm like,

no, I'm good. We went. We're not gonna buy anything.

We're gonna go there and look for four or five hours, but we're leaving with nothing. We went to a car dealership and he was stepping in cars,

going well, I could go get this one that's like ten k cheaper and I'll just The problem with it is, so here's where the problem is.

He can afford to buy it. Yeah, the stuff he goes to

look at, he can afford to buy it. We go to a car

dealership, the cars forty grand, and he can buy it. He can

buy that car. Get in mind, right, I'm so we're not there

just like wasting time. He could buy the car. The problem with it

is is you're not leaving with the car. You're sitting in the car.

The car's forty grand, and he could he could stroke and chut for the car, but he's not gonna buy because he can't talk like this is really worth thinking about. The car dealer shipped down the street give it to him

for thirty nine. Everybody's doing that. He's like, maybe if I go

down the street, they'll give it to me for thirty eight. But the

problem with it is is he's not there, Like, he's not there playing around. He can buy the car, he just can't get himself over the

hump to buy the car. Every time he's one of those guys on the

TV show. He's like, all right, final offer thirty two, Well

you learned that for me, learn the slide, slide the paper. But

I've already told him like foot do chance, like dragging the foot out the door, this is your last chance. It was I think it's called Crazy

Rich Asians where they walk in the dealership and they're like, I want to talk to your boss, and they're like, I am the boss. And

then it goes to the next guy and they're sitting at the desk and he's like, I want to talk to your reminding you this is our car dealership.

And they think they're at the final boss stage and they look over and see that there's ac blowing into a room and I want to talk to your boss. Comes out to be Shack O'Neil that He's like, nobody's ever made

it. I'm telling you, it's just it's it's funny how it all plays

out at the end, Like I understand all the different levels of things and stuff like that, but it comes down to what we told you guys a million of time. Do you have to do your research. You have to

do your research, and like I said, I went down this rabbit hole for you guys with BRACE and it comes down to the very end of There's a lot of options, but sometimes going all the way to the end is not the best option. And then this Britain breaks on a every day,

daily driving passenger car. I don't think doing slot it and drilled rotors and

stuff is what anybody should want to do for a daily driver. I do

think the Bennet option is going to be the best option for you if you're looking to dissipate heat and you want to keep from warden rotors. Do your

research on all of your brake pads. Find the mess with best material that

matches up best with what you guys do. I think you'd be happier that

way. On that note, guys, I gotta take quick cornership break.

When we come back. We got some more stuff to dive into. You

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Falach. Hey, guys, welcome back to the show. So it's kind

of funny we talk about things on this show, and things seem to kind of start off as a what if and what if this happens and what if that happens, and then things tend to spire a little bit more out of control. To think about that, I remember how we had like the silver

golden Yeah, that conversation. I started thinking about that even more deep.

It's just parts in general. Because remember my three fifty Z when the knuckle

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went and bought to bring a new knuckle for two hundred dollars and it was like, how are you marking up the price just because it's for a Z and they use the same exact knuckle. That happens a lot those like I've

found. I don't know what it is. Well, I think I do

popularity on things that I have been able to swap parts on a car that has a little bit less popularity. Perfect example. Let me let me so

this happened to me years ago on I think it was a Ferrari or something like that. And don't quote me on it, guys, but you'll understand

the comparison. There was a it was either Ferrari or it could have been

a Lambo, and I can't remember. We had it in the shop and

the guy had a problem with a UM. If I remember correctly, it

was a wiring harness on a light assembly and I couldn't find it. I

couldn't find it anywhere. So me being the person I get on a computer,

how I like to get on computer. I always saying, I always

say going down the rabbit hole because it's my my favorite term, because that's really one of this right, and you're just man, you go down the rab rabbit hole. Further and further you digging. I don't know what other

whole you're about to pop down, right, because it is because like you, you you read something and you're you're reading this article, and then you then you jump into the comments and then some were burying them. Somebody mentioned

something and you pull that and then you put that into Google, which takes you into a whole nother something up and you start reading that, and then you start reading those comments. And then somebody mentioned something which they about this,

right, and you just start you you just grab little statements, you drop that back into Google, and before you know it, you just man, you just keep on tumbling down these rabbit holes. And it really it

works, but you have to want to. I mean, I'll go for

hours and hours and hours. And I told you guys about before about building

fake cars. Like I see a car online and I like it, and

I'm like, what it looked like if I put these wheels on it?

I do, and I do that too. That's that's rabbit hole stuff,

and it works if you're a car guy. But I solve problems by going

down these rabbit holes and what I and this is the perfect example of that.

I end up finding out that the part that I was looking for, I found the part for this car. Like I said, I can't remember

if it was Lamba or if it was a fraud, but it was one of those cars, and I just life me can't remember, and I'm picturing the car. The car was yellow peg camera which one it was? To

remind everybody what we are talking about, since I see a lot of people are tuning in. We were talking about finding other parts for cards that necessarily

would not go with that being right, So whichever one was, like I said, it was a Ferrari Lamborghini. They wanted like nine hundred dollars or

something like that for this like pig pigtail connector. I mean, it was

like a bigtail connector to make this guy's And by the way, I think it was like three weeks for me to be able to get it. And

as I went down this rabbit hole online looking stuff like that and the comments and stuff, I found out that that part was also part of a Fiat is what it was. And I could get it from Chrysler down the street

within like a week for like a hundred seriously, for like one hundred dollars.

It was like something stupid. I mean it was. I think it

was actually less than a hundred bucks. And I ordered it through the Chrysler

dealership down the street. Because Chrysler Fiat all of them were connected. They

had to me in like four days. I got it and it was the

same piece and it connected perfectly. I mean it was like plug and play.

Yeah, and it connected. And the guy like was like blew his

mind when I told him now, he blew his mind in two different ways.

One that money that worked, and be that I didn't try to like scam him for money, right, like you know what I mean, Like I didn't try to charge like the nine hundred dollars that was supposed to be.

And I just look, yall can see what you guys want in life and stuff like that. But here's the thing. I'm a true believer of

this, and you know, you guys believe what you want. I'm gonna

have to answer for a lot of things later on down the road. I

don't care what you guys believe. But you know, when we're all dead

and leave this ors and stuff like that, that's the one thing I'm not going to answer for. He took advantage of this guy over a pigtail connector,

you know what I mean, Like, let's look right, no, right, there might be some other things I might have to answer for and stuff, but it isn't gonna be like over a pigtail connector. I mean,

I just look, you do right by your customers and you'll have you'll have a lot of customers. I just I believe in that. And that

was just one example of I I couldn't believe that. It was that one

little connection piece and you could get it through a Dodge dealership for you know, for one of those you know, high end cars. But I hear

that happens a lot, you know, where they've just they've sourced parts and their little things, and it was the same thing. But you know,

at the end of the day, I don't know. Like I said,

it's funny we talk about things and they all come back around. You know,

we were talking about what it's called conversations over the last couple of years, how manufacturers were trying to get away from little things and stuff like that and steer things better in their direction. You know, we sense the fact

we're talking about. You know, subscription page has come up with conversations quite

a bit over the last year, big time, because it's coming up morning now. It's really affecting people, or at least affecting consumers in mind.

It really is, because, you know, Cameron and I were talking off the air, A lot of calls coming into dealership are people who are realizing that their car really is a subscription pay service on their car, and they didn't realize it. When they first got the car. Everything seemed to work

okay, and thirty days later they're like, hey, something's wrong on my navigation system. I don't something's not working right. They didn't realize when they

rolled off the lot that everything on the dash worked, and that's because it was in trial right, right, Because it was in trial mode. Thirty

days later, the dash kind of goes blank, and you know, it's not working the way it used to. Things are different. You got used

to it for them, and they think something's broke. They're not broke.

It was in trial mode. And now if you really want it to work

the way it did when you left the dealership, now you've got to pay money. And they don't understand that, and or it was probably explained to

them, but they didn't fully comprehend there's just so much information. That's one

thing, information overload. That's right. When you buy a car, it's

information overload. And there's certain ways you can say thing. Hey, by

the way, this does has a subscription thing coming with it. Um,

coming with it, coming with it, coming with it. Yeah, that

comes with it. But you forgot that. They just said subscription. So

that's right with it, right, they it comes with it. It's you

think about it is that you know you have it, but you gotta pay the subscription for it, right, but they hear That's not how they're hearing it. They're selling it either, right. So I'll give you a perfect

example. So when we bought the new camera, it has a subscription service

that goes to it. Okay, I knew that, I know what that

is. I elect it not to use it, because when you plug into

your Apple phone, you everything, everything, everything, everything comes up on the screen and works off of your phone. So I didn't I wasn't worrying.

I'm a long time for that to get there too. Right. So

but here's the thing. You know, when you're you're already paying a subscription

service to your cell phone, so everything on the car works like a subscription service. All the features work off your phone because you're already paying for to

have your cell phone. And that's how I think that's the way it should

work. I think if you have a cell phone, that screen should work

because you're already paying to have a cell phones. That should work that way,

and that that would be smarter for car manufacturers to pair up with other manufacturs with cell phones. Today's you know they should care just on today date

mark my words. The updates that we get for our radio systems already updates,

my link, updates all that stuff. You know a little bit you

keep receiving the updates. I can already see them going just like some of

our services that we have for the radio show, where they'll be like now to get your updates, you have to pay a subscription fee to be able to get the most recent update, or you have to pay a one time fee. It's not gonna radio anymore. I knew it was coming. You're

gonna have to pay a fee for when they first introduced it and they were like, hey, we're just doing this because we want to be able to like make sure that you keep your car maintenance. So we just want to

send you updated maintenance and make sure that you remember to get your oil changed to your car. We're just gonna send you things on your screen that say,

hey, it's time for a tire rotation, it's time for oil change.

We're gonna send that. The dealerships is gonna send you this little reminders

to your little nice screen. I was like, right, I was like

when I knew that they were going to start doing that, I was like, this is going to turn somehow into some type of pay feature. I

know this is going to and sure enough, here we are. But imagine

that you bought your brand new car and you're driving down the road. You

got this nice, big screen and has all these great features, and on day thirty one, day thirty one, the screen just goes clink and stops working. You're like, oh, this is my brand new car. What's

going on? And then you call the dealership and the dealership goes, oh,

well, that was a paid subscription we told you about and you were just in your free trial. But I can't assist you because it's past that

thirty day. Because it's past that thirty day, and we and you know

that's not on us. You're gonna have now deal with the manufacturer, not

us, the dealership, because the manufacturer handles that and we wash our hands because that's I'm sorry, that's really not on us. Ownership now had a

thirty day you yea, when they were going to take care of you.

Now they you realize that they only had a thirty day after purchase protection.

That's where you bring the vehicle back after a month and then you say, hey, we'll take care of you. You know that wasn't supposed to happen.

We'll take care of you, right, But then after the thirty one thirty days, that thirty first day, that's right, everything shuts off on you and you're now you're dealing with the man. You're dealing with the manufactured

because the dealership washes their hands of you. So imagine that's the case.

I want to dive a little bit more into this when we come back.

Hold Tight. I gotta take a quickmocial break. I got some more on

this because I'm sure you guys didn't realize a lot of this is going on.

And it gets a little bit deeper because you're being forced and I'm gonna tell you how that's going to happen. Hold Tight, I'll be right back.

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specialist. Now back to your host, Dave Palatch. Hey, guys,

welcome back to the show. So before we left, we are kind of

jumping into it just a little bit. Here's here's the thing. If you

really look at it at all, you know, and Nathaniel and I were kind of talking about it a little bit on another subject, but he really kind of brought it full circuit for me. You know, if I think

the auto manufacturers have kind of lost their way. Now, we were talking

about it in a different form on the commercial break, but he makes a valid point. It's got to the point, and I told you it was

going to get to this point, guys, where auto manufacturers are doing everything that they can to keep make a buck and keep money coming in. So

with going to subscription services, as I told you, and I warned you guys a while back, I really thought it was going to be going in that direction. You know, they're controlling everything. So did you guys see

where the automanufacturers are dumping AM radio in their cars? Yeah, now they

going to well I think they're gonna dump Sirius XM too, But they're they're gonna I think they eventually, hasn't been a long time. I think they're

gonna dump everything. I think essentially have a contract and that's basically why I'm

not gonna I'm not gonna jump the rope yet, but AM radio is the first thing they're gonna dump it here, and I think FM will be the next. I think all that will eventually get dumped out of cars. And

here's the reason why, as we know, we switched our platform. You

know what over a year ago. Yeah, people just don't use AM anymore.

People don't use AM, nobody's don't. People aren't listening a lot to

People aren't listening a lot to FM radio anymore either. A lot of people

are listening to internet radio because it interfaces with their phones and stuff inside their car. Now the cars are having a choice where they have internet radio available

inside their cars, okay, and people listen to that platform a lot more.

We learned that during COVID that internet radio and podcasts and stuff was coming really popular. So the car manufacturers are learning that if you provide that as

a setup inside the car, that's just a better option. People like it.

It's cleaner radio all around. It's just clean. It's just a cleaner

set up. It's a better listening. Um. That's the reason why,

right absolutely pushing into But now with that being the case and setting that up, it's gonna be a pay to play, right, So if they put if they get away from all that stuff, which is unfortunate because we just got to the point where car play was you know really well, you know it was for a while it was plug and play. Well, we have

an interface. Now we have an interface. Now you're gonna have to pay

pay for the interface. That's what it's gonna be. You're gonna pay for

the interface, and that's how they're gonna be able to control it. Because

here's the thing, a lot of people are keeping their cars longer once you pay it off. You know, you have to have money. You know,

you have to have money coming if they're going to keep it. So

the way to make money off, Let's make it sure. Let's make clear

it's not CarPlay that we're gonna pay for it. It's no manufacturers are making

their own interface. You're gonna pay for the interface. I think we talked

about this about a year ago, where all these electric vehicle companies were already selling the vehicles without a AM receiver. You know, so you had like,

um, you had Chevy, you had Audi, you had BM.

Dumb you wants to dump already wants to dump Apple play correct. Yeah,

yeah, Chevy wants to dump it two as well as Ford just released No.

Ford was when we talked about this a year ago. Ford was the

only person that was still keeping AM radio in their electric vehicle. Correct,

now they want to dump now they want to dump it, except in their commercial vehicles. Why why like commercial vehicles. I can well, here's the

thing here, I think the reason why because commercial vehicles. Uh, I

could be wrong. If I'm wrong, somebody set me straight. A lot

of commercial vehicles drive long distances out in the middle of nowhere, and the only thing you're gonna get on receptional A lot of times AM radio. Maybe

that could be the reason why. And I could be wrong, But I

can remember like driving in the middle of nowhere and have suffered. Well,

Paul and I so perfect example, Hal and I we found country music because we were in the middle of nowhere one year in the summer and the only station him and I could get was a country radio station. That was it.

There was nothing else to get. And that's how him and I found

And I love this story because him and I learned and learned to love country music that year because it's the only station we get. I would have never

found country music probably in my life, in my heart and my soul without us finding it that year, you know what I mean, Like I just I wasn't I wasn't. Honestly, I wasn't. I wasn't really, you

know, I knew country music, but I didn't know all the songs and all the worst the country music. I want to hear something. Do you

know why EVS? I just looked this up. Do you know why EVS

dropped AM radios? All right, go ahead. The reason why EVS dropped

AM radios is because the electromagnetic interference from the batteries were affecting the AM receivers from receiving signals. That makes sense, Yeah, makes sense. I didn't

know about that. Well there's your answer. Learn something new every day.

There you go. But like I said, I mean it's so here's the

thing. We're so far apart it from so many things. You know,

So here you are in seven years. I've been telling you guys. So

within the seven year mark, they want to get rid of, you know, all your gasoline vehicles for the most part, they want to be at sixty percent EV vehicles. Okay, think about it. Seven years isn't very

far away, guys, seven years it's gonna go by like that. I

mean, it is seven years. So my question always is is why is

the government pushing so hard to tell us what it is we should drive.

There should be a choice for us, like, look, I'm all for it. You want to put ev vehicles out there, look, produce them,

put them out there. But then let the people make the choice what

it is they want to drive. Stop trying to push your agenda. Let

us decide what it is we want to drive. You can make them.

You can make them your Okay, there's no and you got millions of them, So to EVV cools. They pollute the earth too, because here's the

thing you can hold on hold. You can make them, you can produce

them, you can make the batteries. When those things fail, what are

you gonna do with the batteries? They have to go somewhere, So you're

equally producing the earth. By the way, well, you're just you're just

you're you're you're pushing it long term. Okay, you're just pushing the pebbles

somewhere else. Right, You're just you're just kicking the can down the road.

Man, it's all you're doing. You're kicking the can down the road.

It doesn't matter when you kick it. You're still kicking the can down

the road. It doesn't matter. Somebody is taking the pollution somewhere. It

doesn't matter where it is. But you're it's just the same can in a

different different form. It's a different it's the same can in a different form.

It's it's a different can that could be recycling at one point it can't though we don't know what we're gonna do with it. We don't. Now

here's the thing. But the amount of pollution to get the materials to make

it for an ev is it's ten folds over what we're doing right this second.

It just isn't comment on something I don't have, Well I have, so it is. I mean, it really is. That's and that's the

argument. Like I said, so it is the same can. You're just

kicking it down the road, just flick. So we're not really solving anything.

The problem with it is is we're always okay with taking pollution as long as we're taking it from somewhere else and it's not effect us. But but

we're all in the same climate. On top of that, what kind of

vehicles are you using to mind all of that from third world countries? You're

sure enough not using electric vehicles. Yeah, but let go back on my

track. You know, episodes before and stuff. It's more about like you're

getting everybody on one bandwagon instead of pushing so many things, you know, okay and stuff? You get everybody on one a right, So seven you

will agree, hold on, you'll agree that seven years? Okay? Right,

it's not far away, right? Agree? Do you really truly believe?

I truly believe that in seven years that we will have and be able to sustain a grid and a set up and everything within seven years. I

don't think to hold hold on to be able to hold sixty percent of EV vehicles in seven years. You think will truly be able to have a grid

set up in seven years? Yes? Yeah? Oh, you guys are

nuts. You guys have lost your mind. Ten years? Yeah, no,

not even in ten years? Hey wad Yeah, you don't let me

say. Do I think that we'll be able to maintain it in ten years?

Yes? Do I think that people will hop on the bandwagon in ten

years? No? Way. In seven years, we're not having a grid

set up. We're not gonna have enough pumping station, you know, not

pumping stations, but enough gas stations and stuff set up. Gas. It's

not gas, it's electric, it's I'm calling it a gas but electric.

Here's the thing, right, yeah, what are they going to call those?

Now? I don't know what they're gonna right, So with a gas

station, right, you gotta because you go on a gas station. So

look you guys, you know build it, right. It takes time to

build it and stuff you gotta take underneath to hold a game ass, right, and so you gotta have I got you, I got you. You

gotta have someone drop the gas off, right, it's up with electricity, you don't really never you're never going to be able to support it. But

you're just trying to switch on. Okay, you're pop, you're popping up

a couple electric how many that's why we have it in seven years? How

it's not because how many years? Okay, hold on power, you're okay,

you're just you're connecting it grid. Let's from Okay, So let's use

a big city just as a big city that's already having a power problem as it is. Let's just take California for instance. It's already having a power

issue, right, that may need another power Texas. Okay, let's just

take Texas. Let's say like, let's just take a city that's having a

power issue. How long does it take to build another large power plant to

be able to make that happen? How long do you think it's going to

take them to build another power plant doing what though? Just just doing it

to build more power for that city? Power plant though? Right? Huh?

What is the power plant? Nuclear? Are you going? There's any

type of power plant. Let's just say you're taking a power plant. Le

so they say you're taking a hydro power plant or something along that line or whatever. Right, I mean it's gonna take a little long time. How

many years you think? Okay, no, maybe maybe less. Primus say

ten. I'm much gonna say ten years, and take ten years from them

to build a plant. Okay, I mean because we're going out of time,

so let's finish this off because we gotta get out of here, guys.

But ten years, it's ten years just build a plant to send the power. So it takes ten years to send the power, to build a

plant, and they want seven years. You only built a plant. You

haven't built the gridge yet. On that note, years, it takes four

years. Okay. If it takes four years, you're still off. And

then you're going to hear the end of this. I gotta get out of

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