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Hey folks, welcome to another edition of My Car Guru, where I have made a life decision
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that I want to share with you.
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I have decided to eliminate as many things in my life that I can that cause anxiety or stress
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that I have no control over.
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My wife looked at me the other day and said, well, you sure are on your phone a lot.
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And I always have an excuse, you know, it's, well, you know, I'm doing business or catching
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up on my emails and that type of stuff, but you know, that's not always true.
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I'm looking at a news feed, you know, it could be any of them, you know, any of
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the apps, I'm not going to go through them.
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You know what they are, you probably check them out yourself.
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But it's just, it's consuming too much time for me, just like TikTok.
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I didn't even know what TikTok was two years ago, a year ago I downloaded the app.
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It's very addictive.
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It's just one video after another video after another video.
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And most of it is very innocent, you know, most of what gets served up to me have to
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do with business, cars, politics, Charlie Kirk.
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And some of it just creates this anxiety that I have no outlet for.
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And more importantly than that, no need for.
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So I just eliminated it off my phone.
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I am hopeful that I will be able to keep it eliminated.
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Because not only does it rob time, it robs you or robs me of the focus that I need
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to have on more important things.
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You know, like my faith, my family, my friends, my business, my audience, you know, for my
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There are plenty of wholesome things that I can expose my aging mind to.
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And I'm just not going to hold my brain hostage anymore by loading it down with
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problems that I can't solve.
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So what am I going to retain?
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Well, I'm going to keep Facebook because Facebook is important for my Kharaguru, for
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the my Kharaguru group.
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It also is a place where I offer automotive advice.
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I try to inspire people with things and life experiences and that type of thing that
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will maybe help them in their life.
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I try to witness to my faith.
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And hopefully provide uplifting things.
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If somebody tries to attack me or I see them going aggressively political on things, I'm
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just going to block them because I don't need that.
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And I don't know what they think that does.
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Who are they influencing anyway?
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They're probably preaching to the choir, to their own agreeable choir, that is.
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Now I'm a true believer that our thought life controls not only our mental health, but
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our physical health as well.
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So I don't need it blocking it, eliminating it.
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And maybe you should too.
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All right, I'll take my first break.
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I'll be back here in just one minute.
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A couple interesting things in the automotive press.
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Now I can't cut myself off of that.
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That's something I have to pay attention to to stay informed about my business.
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But anyway, the title of an article I was reading is this, underwater car trade ins climb to
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highest level since 2021.
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So according to this article, a growing share of American drivers are finding themselves
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underwater or upside down on their auto loans, reaching a four year high.
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What does that mean?
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Well if you have a car financed and if you were to sell that car to an individual, more
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than likely if you are considered to be underwater or upside down, you would not realize as
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much or as many dollars for your car is what you owe on it.
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Your payoff may be 20,000, but the most you can get out of your car is 15,000 because
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that's what the market will bear.
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And so you are $5,000 upside down.
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Okay, so when does this not matter?
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Well this does not matter if, I mean if you are theoretically upside down, it only matters
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if you go in and trade cars or if you try to sell your car to somebody and you have
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to produce a title, which you'll have to pay off the car before you can do so.
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But it doesn't matter if you're going to keep the car until it's paid off.
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Now you may have made a lousy investment from the very beginning.
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That happened the day that you picked the car up, but if you just, you know, wait the
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entire 60 months or 72 or 84 before you pay it off, then you're never upside down, really.
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I mean in terms of losing money, okay?
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Just like if I have a share of Apple stock and the share goes down in value, have
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No, because I haven't sold the stock.
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If I sell the stock, I might have a loss.
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You know, if you buy cars and finance them and then keep them five or six years beyond
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that date, you probably made a wise move.
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You are ringing out all the additional value you can out of that vehicle.
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So why do people do otherwise?
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Why do people finance cars for 60 months or 84 months or whatever?
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And they know that they never stay in a car that long.
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They're going to stay in a car for two years, maybe three.
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And they're going to have this consistent problem of carrying over negative equity into
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the subsequent car loan, which is a recipe for a disaster.
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At some point, you hit the wall.
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You get to the point where you cannot trade.
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You know, your salesperson says, well, folks, I'm real sorry, but you owe so much
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on your trade end, we can't get the bank to finance you.
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You know, when a bank takes on a car loan, they would love to see a little equity in the
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loan because they know that people that have an investment in a car, you know, it's like
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If you pay $10,000 down, you're probably not going to let the thing go back.
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If you pay nothing down, then you still might not let it go back, you know, if
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But you're more likely to than somebody that, you know, pays a whole lot of
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So if you actually are way upside down in your vehicle and you have a negative down
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payment, which is entirely possible, it just makes your payment go way up because
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you're still paying off the loan that you had before, you know, it's a really hard
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concept for a lot of people to understand.
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But if you owe more money on a car than it's worth and you trade it in, the
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difference between what you owe and what it's worth is going to be tacked on to
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the amount you are financing on the new car.
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It just doesn't disappear.
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You're stuck with it.
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Now I guess there's some ways to get rid of it.
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You could come up with some cash.
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You could, you know, a lot of people, when they go to a dealership and they
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can't trade because they're upside down so badly, they'll say, well, I'll just
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They put it online or they put it out in their yard with a for sale sign on it.
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And they find pretty quickly that, you know, a lot of those people that are
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driving around and they see your car, they've already been online.
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They've been looking for cars and they know that yours is overpriced.
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And so it just sits there.
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You know, I saw, I ride my bike a lot.
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I rode 20 miles a day before yesterday.
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And I saw a vehicle on a, just a deserted little one lane road and it had a truck
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sitting in the front yard with a for sale sign in it.
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Now I don't know what they know about marketing, but that's probably not the
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most effective place to sell their car.
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Maybe they had it online too.
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So I'm assuming too much possibly.
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But they're hoping for that drive by traffic, you know, and there's just
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not that much except for people on bicycles.
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Based on studies by Edmunds.com, they think that about 50%, somewhere around
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50% of the people that are driving around in cars that are financed are upside
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down and you may be one of them.
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You know, you don't have to worry about it when you're just going down
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the road or going on vacation or whatever.
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There's no reason to be concerned unless you're in the market to trade
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cars and then you need to know.
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And the best way to find that out, easiest way is just send me your vehicle
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I need your 17 digit VIN number.
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Please count the digits.
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Double check it because I get a lot of VIN numbers that are short of digit.
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So do that and then tell me what the vehicle is.
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What kind of equipment package does it have on it?
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For example, is it an LX model or a DXL or just whatever?
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I need to know how it's equipped.
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Does it have a sunriff?
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Does it have any extra options?
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If you have a picture of the window sticker where you bought it, which you
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should, if it was a new vehicle, it should be folded up in your glove box,
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then just send that to me as well.
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Sending pictures helps.
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But I need to know like the condition of the tires.
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Are the tires half worn out?
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When did you put them on?
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Have you spent any money on the vehicle?
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Is there anything that you have done to enhance the value of that vehicle?
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So maybe an accessory.
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Maybe you put a winch on it.
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Unlikely, but it's possible.
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So in the overall condition.
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And sometimes it involves a phone call, so we get to chat.
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We can chat about your vehicle.
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And then I'll tell you what it's worth.
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I'll pull the vehicle history too.
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You don't have to do that.
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You don't have to pay to have that done through car facts or whatever.
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I'll do it for you.
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And I'll tell you what your vehicle is worth on the market today.
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What you could expect to get out of it retail.
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If you were to put it out in the front yard with a for sale sign on it.
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Or listed online, which is the better choice.
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Or what the wholesale value, what the actual cash value would be to a dealer.
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Who is appraising your vehicle and
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once you negotiate the selling price of the new vehicle.
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Then you will be talking the same kind of numbers on the trade in.
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Because when you lump together the selling price in the trade.
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At a lot of dealerships, you don't really know what you're getting for your trade in.
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Do you understand that?
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Let's say for example, you're looking at a, I don't know,
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a Nissan Frontier at one of my competitors who jacks up the window sticker by $5,000.
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And you've got a, the actual cash value of your trade in is, let's say 10.
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But he's willing to pay you 12 for it or 15 or some big number.
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And then you go shopping around and other dealerships and you say, well,
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you're not giving me enough money for my trade in.
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I got you beat down the street.
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No, you don't, you don't.
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You got to look at the trade difference.
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How much difference are you having to pay?
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That's the real number, folks.
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It's not necessarily what the selling price is.
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And it's not necessarily what the trade value is.
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It's the combination of the two.
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Now, with my four target strategy, you're negotiating four different things separately.
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You're not even talking about the trade in.
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You're just talking about the selling price of the vehicle that you're buying.
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And then you're talking trade in.
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Then we're on the same page when it comes to actual cash value of what you own.
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Because if you know that number and you know what your payoff is,
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then you're going to know the real number that's going to be carried over to your
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If you don't know the ACV, actual cash value, and you're dealing with some kind
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of inflated trade value, you may think, well, you're not carrying over hardly
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anything until you really dig down into the finance contract.
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And you will see it.
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You'll see it right there.
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Or on the bill of sale, the buyer's order, different dealers call it
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That's the document, folks.
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That's the one that you need to see.
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You know, they come out and throw a four-square on you.
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You know, where they have just a blank piece of paper with four boxes
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and start throwing numbers.
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What did I tell you to do about that?
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You know how to make a paper airplane?
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That's about all that's good for.
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You say, sir, I don't know why you brought this out,
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but I'm not doing four-square dance with you.
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I never learned to dance that well.
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So just go get me a sales contract that has a breakdown
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on all the numbers, and then we'll dance.
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We'll do the watusi.
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OK, what else is in the news?
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Oh, yeah, this crazy governor Newsom out in California.
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You know, that's a very progressive state, apparently.
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And they were all tore up because Trump said,
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we're not paying any more EV subsidies, $7,500 tax credit.
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That ends at the end of this month, September 30th.
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So if you want your $7,500 tax credit on an EV,
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you better buy it before September 30th.
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If you don't, you won't get it.
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Well, Governor Newsom said, well, we're going to pay it anyway.
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We're going to pay it out here in California
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with a multi-billion dollar deficit.
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Well, he changed course.
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He said, no, we can't do it.
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We don't have the money.
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He called what the federal government did federal vandalism,
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meaning that they robbed the people of California
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of their ability to buy electric vehicles.
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So I'm glad they did.
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He was going to try to create a $5,000 incentive
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to help offset the loss of the $7,500.
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But I think they started looking at their budget numbers,
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and they realized, we can't afford this.
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You know, isn't that what they do, though, a lot?
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I mean, they promise all these big things,
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and then they never really talk about what it's going to cost.
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And when they figure that out, they have to backtrack.
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And there are companies that do that.
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Ford did it with their Blue Oval City out in Stanton,
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They built this, or started building this monstrous
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factory to build batteries and an all-new electric truck
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and possibly an electric SUV.
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And they had to pull the plug on it.
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They're still building the factory.
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They just had to really scale back.
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They over-promised and under-delivered what calls that
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the market, the market spoke.
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You cannot artificially create markets
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with government subsidies because it won't work.
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Maybe there's some examples out there where it did work.
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I mean, TVA, Tennessee Valley Authority,
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that was all paid for by the federal government.
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But that was a good thing.
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Gave a lot of people, a lot of job opportunities
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back when it was badly needed during the Great Depression.
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It provided Oak Ridge with the power
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they needed to develop bombs to end the war with Japan.
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Created some beautiful lakes.
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We got some whoppers.
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And they're wonderful.
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And it's wonderful for tourism and just general recreation
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You know, that's a really good example of government working,
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doing what they're supposed to do.
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Leave the markets alone.
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Don't try to influence things.
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You remember the cash for clunkers?
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That was a disaster.
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A lot of people think that really saved the auto industry
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and kept the factories home, and it didn't.
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What it did was rob Peter to pay Paul.
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It took millions of cars.
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Well, maybe that's an exaggeration.
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I don't know how many cars, but a bunch.
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Off the market and crushed them.
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So that people who needed to buy cheap cars,
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and there's a lot of folks out there that they just,
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they needed to be able to buy $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 cars.
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Well, ever since then, those cars don't exist.
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What used to be a $3,000 car is now an $8,000 car.
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What was a $5,000 car is now a $12,000 car.
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And the payments on those, since typically they are financed
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maybe through a buy here, pay here a lot,
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or some type of a secondary finance company,
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the payments on those cars have just gone haywire.
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Just like payments on regular cars have, but even worse,
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because those poor people have to pay anywhere
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from 20 to 30% interest because of their bad credit habits.
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And then you add on to that the cost of insurance.
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I've got people coming in telling me
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that their insurance rates for their cars
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have gone up 100% over the last five years.
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So somebody's out buying a car and they get real excited
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and they just stretch to the limit on their payment.
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And then they call their insurance company.
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And their insurance company says,
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well, you know, you were driving that older car
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that was paid for as 10 years old.
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And now you got a brand new car.
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And this is what it's gonna cost.
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And all of a sudden their household budget
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is completely blown out of the water.
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And it's too late to put it in reverse.
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They've signed the contract, they've got the new car,
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they've impressed their neighbors and their family members.
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And now they can't afford the car insurance.
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So they have to break that down into monthly payments.
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Making matters worse.
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And you don't have to buy an extended warranty.
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You don't have to buy a gap insurance.
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You don't have to buy any type of protection package
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or something at the dealership.
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But by golly, you have to buy car insurance,
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especially when you have the car financed.
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It's not an option.
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So what should you do?
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Call your insurance agent before you go car shopping.
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Find out what vehicles have the lowest rates,
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the best crash ratings, the lowest repair costs.
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That might direct you to a different car
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than you were thinking altogether.
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It's not a bad idea.
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Find out what the rate's gonna be
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if you buy the car of your dreams,
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you know, that you've been after.
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You wanna buy a Jeep.
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Wait till you see the insurance on that thing.
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Might change your mind.
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Do that first though.
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That's the best advice I can give.
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Okay, I'll be back in just one minute.
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I shipped out four copies of the My Car Gourou guidebook.
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I had to print them out for those people who,
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you know, don't have email and don't use a cell phone.
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You know, they have a flip phone,
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but they don't have a smartphone,
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so I can't send them a PDF version electronically.
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So I have to print out the My Car Gourou guidebook.
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I think it's 32 pages now.
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And print it out on just eight and a half
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by 11 paper and fold it up and stick it
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in an envelope and mail it.
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And I'm perfectly happy to do that.
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You can call the dealership at, sorry, yeah, 423-639-5151,
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or you can call my cell phone, 423-552-2020.
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Well, this morning I had three messages on my desk
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from people who had called the dealership
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and asked for the Gourou guidebook.
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Why do you need it?
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You want to save money, don't you?
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Buying, selling, trading cars, getting them fixed,
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getting auto body repairs done,
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how to tell if a car's been wrecked.
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These are things you need to know.
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Basic maintenance things that you need to do
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on your car to preserve its value
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so that you aren't upside down at trade done.
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Or at least you can minimize it.
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So use me and abuse me.
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Preferably just use me.
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423-552-2020 or send me an email to Lenny, L-E-N-N-I-E,
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Lawson, L-A-W-S-O-N, 2020.
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I just shortened it by saying 2020.
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At gmail.com, you take the guidebook, you read it,
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read the section that you need to,
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you know, when you need to.
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There's an appendix, is it appendix?
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Yeah, at the front of the book.
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If you're getting ready to go in and buy a car,
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then read that section.
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Buying a new car, buying a used car, negotiation.
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It's just, you will be at such peace
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when you go into the dealership.
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It doesn't matter what they throw at you, you'll be ready.
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You'll have the words.
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And maybe, just maybe,
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you can enjoy this car buying experience
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like none other that you've ever had before.
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Well, thank you for listening to this edition
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I look forward to being with you again tomorrow.