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Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD Road Test: Rugged Style Meets Everyday Utility

Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD Road Test: Rugged Style Meets Everyday Utility

America on the Road Apr 25, 2026 42 min
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About this episode

The hosts cover a wide-ranging mix of car news and road tests, from rising negative equity and counterfeit airbag warnings to a canceled Sony-Honda EV plan. The centerpiece is Jack’s review of the Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD, highlighting its 277-horsepower turbo engine, towing ability, roomy cabin, and $44,000 sticker. They also dig into Volvo’s EX60, especially its fast charging, Google-based tech, and range claims, before closing with practical advice on EV ownership for apartment dwellers.

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AWD

"Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD Road Test: Rugged Style Meets Everyday Utility"

AWD means the car can send power to all four wheels. That can help it grip better on slippery or rough roads.

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EV partnership

"As we hinted in an episode a few weeks ago, Sony and Honda are hitting the brakes on their high profile EV partnership, they're canceling all the Othila models and restructuring their joint venture, kind of restructuring it into not a joint venture I think, but we'll talk about that."

An EV partnership is when two companies team up to build electric vehicles. If they cancel or restructure it, it can change what cars they plan to make and when.

Company

Sony

"As we hinted in an episode a few weeks ago, Sony and Honda are hitting the brakes on their high profile EV partnership, they're canceling all the Othila models and restructuring their joint venture, kind of restructuring it into not a joint venture I think, but we'll talk about that."

Sony is best known for electronics, but it can also partner on car technology. In this episode, Sony is mentioned because its EV collaboration with Honda is being changed.

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defective replacement airbags

"Safety concerns are back in the spotlight, regulators are warning about defective replacement airbags. We've talked about this on the show maybe a year or so ago, but there's still causing injuries out there, so take a look."

Sometimes cars get airbags replaced because of a safety problem. But if the replacement airbags are also defective, they can still cause injuries, so regulators issue new warnings.

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AI and satellite internet

"Camping is getting a high tech upgrade as travelers turn to AI and satellite internet"

AI and satellite internet are tools that can make road trips easier. Satellite internet helps you stay connected even far from cell towers, and AI can help the system suggest things or manage information.

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air quality

"And going on the road on vacation might not be as refreshing as you think with new data showing that peak tourist season often coincides with the worst air quality in major destinations. Go figure. Do you consider air quality in your vacation destination choices?"

Air quality is how clean or polluted the air is in a place. If it’s worse during busy vacation times, it can make the trip feel less comfortable, especially if you have breathing issues.

Car

EX60

"He's head of future vehicles at Volvo Cars America, and we'll be talking about the Volvo EX-60 battery electric that we got a preview of. So stay with us for that."

The EX60 is a Volvo electric car that runs on batteries instead of gasoline. The podcast is talking about it as a preview of what Volvo is bringing next. It’s included because it shows where Volvo’s future electric lineup is headed.

Concept

negative equity

"Negative equity. That's a big problem, right? Being upside down is a big problem."

Negative equity means you still owe more money on your current car than it’s worth today. If you trade it in, the extra amount can get added to your new car loan.

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upside down

"That's a big problem, right? Being upside down is a big problem. It's a growing financial strain."

“Upside down” means your car is worth less than what you still owe on it. So when you try to switch cars, you may have to bring that extra debt along.

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trade-ins for new vehicles carry debt exceeding the vehicle's value

"31% of trade-ins for new vehicles carry debt exceeding the vehicle's value. That means they were upside down."

The segment highlights a specific statistic: a large share of trade-ins involve debt that exceeds the car’s value. This indicates many buyers are financing the “gap” between what they owe and what the trade-in is worth.

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rolled some of the debt they had on the old car into the new car loan

"They rolled some of the debt they had on the old car into the new car loan."

Rolling debt into a new auto loan is a common way negative equity gets carried forward. Instead of paying the difference out of pocket, the lender finances it as part of the new purchase, which can extend the time you’re paying off that gap.

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monthly payment close to $1,000 ($932 is the average)

"When you look at what this does to the monthly payment of these folks, it's close to $1,000. $932 is the average."

They’re talking about how much the loan costs each month. If the average payment is around $932 (or close to $1,000), that’s a sign the financing is getting expensive. Rolling old debt into a new loan can make those payments even higher.

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vehicle prices were pretty inflated (early COVID days)

"Yeah. I mean, if you look back in the early COVID days, vehicle prices were pretty inflated when we had some shortages and things were happening that were causing the prices to go up."

During the early COVID period, fewer cars were available and demand was still strong, so prices went up. When cars cost more, the amount you need to borrow usually goes up too. That can make monthly payments much harder to manage.

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back end of those loans

"People like myself who don't want to keep a vehicle for a long time are now looking at the back end of those loans, and they haven't been paying on the value of them for that long."

The “back end” means later in the loan, after you’ve been paying for a while. If the car’s value drops faster than you pay off the loan, you can owe more than the car is worth when you try to trade it in. That’s when people may refinance or bundle the old balance into a new loan.

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rolling in (rolling debt into a new car loan)

"Look, that is one thing that as many times as I've swapped cars I've avoided doing is rolling in because you end up paying for two or three cars with your current vehicle."

“Rolling in” is when you don’t pay off your old car loan before getting a new car—you add what you still owe into the new loan. That usually makes the new monthly payment higher and can keep you paying for longer. It can feel like you’re “starting over,” but you’re often financing more than the new car costs.

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average transaction price is up near $50,000

"I mean, the average transaction price is up near $50,000. So rolling that in on top of an already expensive car, you're kind of looking at some very steep payments for what could be a very long time."

“Average transaction price” is basically the typical price people pay for a car. If that average is around $50,000, it means more buyers are financing bigger numbers. Bigger numbers usually mean higher monthly payments.

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electric vehicle partnership

"Sony and Honda had put together what I thought was a very ambitious electric vehicle partnership. I was looking forward to seeing what they would come up with... Well, that's kind of going away, really."

An electric vehicle partnership is a collaboration between companies to share development costs, platforms, and technology for EVs. These deals often target manufacturing scale and faster time-to-market, but they can be canceled if business priorities change.

Brand

Ophila

"They have officially pulled the plug on that and the Ophila brand."

Ophila is the name of the vehicle brand mentioned in connection with the EV partnership. The segment says that brand is also being discontinued.

Topic

CES in 2023

"They had announced this at CES in 2023. And I think I was excited about it."

CES is a big tech show where companies announce new ideas. They’re saying this EV partnership was announced there in 2023.

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electric vehicles

"...the Ophila was one of those visionary early models when everyone was very excited about new electric vehicles. They're futuristic. They got a lot of tech in them."

Electric cars were once seen as very futuristic. Over time, many buyers started wanting cars that look more normal and cost less.

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write off

"I mean, the scale of these things and the scale of the write off on this is just amazing, but it just shows you the scale of the auto industry globally."

A write-off usually means the car is considered too damaged or too expensive to repair, so it’s treated as a total loss.

Company

ASE

"Well, the ASE has automotive service excellence. That organization has advised that there's a lot of defective airbags out there."

ASE is an automotive organization that’s involved in helping train and certify car technicians. Here, the hosts are using it as a source for safety information about airbag problems.

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defective airbags

"Well, the ASE has automotive service excellence. That organization has advised that there's a lot of defective airbags out there. And the airbag is right in your steering wheel."

Airbags are safety devices meant to protect you in a crash. If an airbag is defective, it can malfunction and hurt people instead of helping them.

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Takata airbag recall

"And if you look back at the Takata airbag recall, there are millions and millions of vehicles involved in this."

Takata made airbags that sometimes didn’t work safely. Instead of protecting you, they could break apart in a crash and hurt people, so many cars had to get their airbags replaced.

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counterfeit airbags

"So these counterfeit airbags look just like the real thing. They're getting being put in sometimes by reputable shops who don't know any better, but they're no better than the defective airbags they replace."

Counterfeit airbags are fake safety parts sold as if they were real. Even if they look correct, they may not deploy properly, which can make an accident more dangerous.

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airbag inspection

"So yeah, and you can't tell just by looking at your car. So an inspection, like you said, is something that would be in order."

An airbag inspection is how you verify your car has the right safety parts installed. Because fake parts can look real, a proper check helps confirm you’re actually protected.

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airbag deployment

"certainly most cars are not going to be in a crash that deploys airbags, so that's good. But you never know."

Airbag deployment is when the airbag inflates during a crash. Most people won’t have a crash that triggers it, but if you do, you want the airbag to work correctly.

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genuine part

"But I think be very careful if you were replacing an airbag that you're getting a genuine part, I think that is critical."

A genuine part is the exact replacement part the car maker designed for your vehicle. For safety systems, using the right part matters so it works the way it’s supposed to.

Concept

AI trip planning

"Apparently a lot of folks, this is according to the DIRT, D-Y-R-T... are using AI to pick out campsites... I think a lot of people are using AI just to plan their trips or to give them a jumping off point on their trip."

Some people use AI to help choose where to camp. It can be a helpful starting point, but you still want to double-check details before you go.

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out on the trail

"You know, I don't know that I want it guiding me when I'm out on the trail or 606.7s doing those sorts of things, but for the planning stages, I could see it being 609.6s useful."

“Out on the trail” means driving on rougher paths than paved roads. It’s where traction and clearance matter, and you want to be more careful.

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planning stages

"You know, I don't know that I want it guiding me when I'm out on the trail or 605.0s doing those sorts of things, but for the planning stages, I could see it being 609.6s useful."

The planning stages are what you do before you leave—like figuring out where you’re going and what to expect. It’s the part where helpful tools can make things easier and safer.

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satellite imagery

"Yeah, I can see this. 611.0s And also, you know, satellite imagery, you can kind of see where the campsites 614.6s are and things like that."

Satellite imagery is like a bird’s-eye view from space. It can help you spot where campsites are and get a better sense of where you’re going.

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peak travel season coincides with the highest pollution levels of the year

"...in 45 major tourist locations... the peak travel season coincides with the highest pollution levels of the year."

Sometimes the time when everyone travels is also when the air is worst. So your trip could be affected more than you’d expect just because of the season.

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wildfire smoke

"...in the American West... wildfire smoke has significantly worsened summer conditions in a lot of places..."

When wildfires burn, they release smoke into the air. Even if you’re not near the fire, the smoke can travel and make the air quality worse where you’re driving or visiting.

Car

2026 Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid

"I drove the 2026 Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid. And I will be talking about the Hyundai Santa Fe XRT."

The Corolla Cross is a small SUV. In the hybrid version, a battery and electric motor help the engine, which usually means better gas mileage than a regular gas model.

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trim level

"And I will be talking about the Hyundai Santa Fe XRT. It's off the off-road version of the Santa Fe."

A trim level is like a package of options for the same car model. The XRT trim is the one with the more rugged look and usually extra features compared with the cheaper versions.

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hybrid powertrain

"Toyota offers a gas and a hybrid version of this vehicle. You can get into it for around $25,000 on the base end."

A hybrid uses both gas and electricity. Sometimes the electric motor helps, and sometimes the gas engine does the work, which can help you use less fuel.

Car

Toyota RAV4

"I thought, wow, this makes a lot of sense given the elevated price levels of the RAV4, uh, which is a wonderful vehicle, but getting pricier..."

The Toyota RAV4 is a mainstream compact SUV that’s often used as a pricing and value benchmark in the crossover segment. Here, it’s referenced because its elevated pricing makes shoppers look at alternatives like the Santa Fe hybrid.

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2.0 liter four cylinder engine

"But the hybrid model comes with a 2.0 liter four cylinder engine and an electric motor."

A 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine is the gasoline portion of the hybrid system, providing power and helping charge the hybrid system as needed. In hybrids, the engine’s job is often optimized for efficiency rather than maximum acceleration.

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electric motor

"But the hybrid model comes with a 2.0 liter four cylinder engine and an electric motor."

In a hybrid, the electric motor can provide torque for acceleration and can also help the vehicle move at low speeds with less engine use. It works alongside the engine and the battery to manage power smoothly.

Term

196 horsepower combined

"...an electric motor. You get 196 horsepower combined."

Hybrid cars often list “combined” power, which means the total from both the gas engine and the electric motor. It’s meant to show how strong the car feels overall, not just the gas engine alone.

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all wheel drive

"The hybrid comes standard with all wheel drive and it's powered by a continuously variable transmission."

All-wheel drive (AWD) sends power to more than one axle, improving traction when roads are slippery or uneven. In hybrids, AWD can also help the vehicle feel more stable and confident during everyday driving.

Term

continuously variable transmission

"...powered by a continuously variable transmission. ...is not the most enthusiast friendly option... it lets the engine wine... and it just kind of dulls the driving experience."

A continuously variable transmission (CVT) uses pulleys and a belt (or chain) to provide an infinite range of gear ratios, keeping the engine near its most efficient operating point. The tradeoff is that many drivers feel the engine “rev” changes are less connected to acceleration, which can feel less engaging.

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enthusiast friendly option

"The continuously variable transmission here... is not the most enthusiast friendly option. I think, you know, Hyundai, you made the one you might be discussing..."

“Enthusiast friendly” is shorthand for a driving feel that matches how a performance-minded driver expects the car to respond—often involving noticeable gear changes, direct throttle-to-speed connection, and less engine-sound “drone.” CVTs are frequently criticized in this context because they can keep the engine at a relatively constant speed while the car accelerates.

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smooth daily driver

"But for a hybrid that's looking to save fuel and be a smooth daily driver, I think most people won't mind this..."

A “smooth daily driver” emphasizes comfort and easy, predictable behavior in everyday traffic rather than maximum performance. The segment frames the CVT’s character as acceptable for most buyers because the goal is fuel savings and calm drivability.

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ride quality

"But again, this is not a performance vehicle. Um, the ride quality here is surprisingly solid... This vehicle is able to handle some of the potholes here."

Ride quality is how comfortable the car feels over bumps and rough pavement. They’re saying it doesn’t bounce or shake much, and it stays calm even when the roads are bad.

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potholes

"They're starting to patch up the roads, but they're rough. This vehicle is able to handle some of the potholes here. There's not a lot of noise."

Potholes are holes in the road that can make your car hit hard or feel shaky. They’re saying this SUV deals with them without being too noisy or bouncy.

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hybrid fuel economy (city stop-and-go)

"And the hybrid does its best, uh, fuel economy reduction in the city where you're doing stop and go and the electric motors can take up more of the, the propulsion there."

A hybrid can use its electric motor more when you’re creeping along or stopping a lot. In city traffic, that usually helps it burn less gas than it would on a smooth highway drive.

Term

cloth upholstery

"Uh, but inside this vehicle comes standard with cloth upholstery."

Cloth upholstery just means the seats are covered in fabric instead of leather. It’s usually comfortable and practical, but it may not feel as upscale as leather-like materials.

Term

synthetic leather

"My top trim tester had synthetic leather upholstery as Toyota does. Their synthetic leather is pretty nice."

Synthetic leather is a fake leather material made to look and feel like leather. It’s usually cheaper than real leather, but it can still feel nice depending on the quality.

Term

heated front seats

"The top X, X, S, E trim... comes with heated front seats, a heated steering wheel."

Heated front seats warm you up using built-in heat in the seats. It’s a comfort feature that helps fast in cold weather.

Term

heated steering wheel

"...comes with heated front seats, a heated steering wheel. You get wireless phone charging and a power sunroof."

A heated steering wheel warms the part you hold. In cold weather, it helps your hands feel comfortable right away.

Term

power sunroof

"You get wireless phone charging and a power sunroof. The front seats are comfortable."

A power sunroof is a roof panel that can be opened and closed electrically, usually with a switch or button. It adds ventilation and light, and it’s typically more convenient than a manual sunroof.

Term

wireless phone charging

"You get wireless phone charging and a power sunroof. The front seats are comfortable."

Wireless phone charging charges your phone without plugging in a cable. You just set the phone on the charging spot.

Car

Toyota GR Corolla

"You know, I owned a GR Corolla and even that sporty vehicle, there's some of the touch points and the ergonomics are similar between them."

The Toyota GR Corolla is a performance-oriented Corolla variant, so it’s a useful benchmark for how “sporty” touch points and ergonomics can feel. Here, the host says even in a sporty GR Corolla, the Hyundai’s layout feels similar in terms of controls and seating feel.

Term

cubic feet behind the second row

"And again, some of the reliability that you get from a Toyota. You get 21, only 21.5 cubic feet behind the second row, which isn't a ton."

“Cubic feet behind the second row” is cargo volume, a common way to compare how much stuff an SUV can hold without folding the seats. Lower numbers generally mean less everyday practicality for larger items, even if the vehicle is otherwise roomy.

Term

44 cubic feet

"Folding down the back seats, it expands that space to 44 cubic feet. And they do fold reasonably flat."

This is a measurement of how much stuff the SUV can hold. When they fold the back seats down, the cargo area becomes much larger—enough for bigger items, but not truly heavy hauling.

Term

wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto

"Come standard with an eight inch touchscreen, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are also standard. My vehicle had a 10.5 inch touchscreen."

These features let your phone’s apps show up on the car’s screen. With wireless setup, you usually don’t need to plug your phone in every time.

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digital gauge cluster

"My top trim tester also had a 12.3 inch digital gauge cluster, which is nice. Toyota tends to pack in way too much information onto that screen though."

Instead of regular dials, the speedometer and other info are shown on a screen. A bigger screen can make it easier to see what you need while driving.

Brand

Toyota Safety Sense

"And I'd also had a nine speaker JBL system and a full suite of Toyota Safety Sense safety features such as like blind spot monitoring, forward cross traffic, rear cross traffic, rear cross traffic alerts, forward collision warnings and so on."

This is Toyota’s package of safety tech that helps you avoid crashes. It can warn you about things like cars in your blind spot or traffic coming from the side.

Term

blind spot monitoring

"...Toyota Safety Sense safety features such as like blind spot monitoring, forward cross traffic, rear cross traffic, rear cross traffic alerts, forward collision warnings and so on."

This feature watches for cars you can’t easily see in your mirrors. If a car is in your blind spot, it warns you so you don’t accidentally change lanes into it.

Term

forward collision warnings

"...rear cross traffic alerts, forward collision warnings and so on. Jack, I think if I were getting this vehicle, I would opt for a lower trim to save some money."

This system watches the road ahead for situations where you might hit something. If it thinks a crash is likely, it alerts you so you can brake or steer sooner.

Company

JBL

"And I'd also had a nine speaker JBL system and a full suite of Toyota Safety Sense safety features such as like blind spot monitoring..."

JBL is a well-known brand for car audio. If the car has a “JBL system,” it usually means the speakers and sound tuning are meant to be better than the cheapest audio option.

Topic

trim choice and value (opting for lower trim vs top trim)

"Jack, I think if I were getting this vehicle, I would opt for a lower trim to save some money. But if you're going for the top trim, 35 grand is not breaking the bank in terms of today's auto market."

They’re talking about whether it’s worth paying extra for the highest trim level. The idea is: you can save money with a lower trim, but the top trim may be worth it if you really want the added features.

Car

Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD

"I think the Hyundai Santa Fe, I think they've done a really nice job. Hyundai has done a really nice job with the Santa Fe. I was driving the XRT trim, which kind of presents itself as a ruggedized... three-row SUV..."

This is a Hyundai Santa Fe with the XRT trim, which is meant to look more rugged and capable. It’s still an everyday family SUV with three rows, not a dedicated off-road vehicle.

Car

Hyundai Palisade

"I would say the Hyundai Palisade is really, to my mind, more of the midsize vehicle, but this is a very roomy vehicle with three rows."

The Palisade is Hyundai’s bigger three-row SUV. They’re comparing it to the Santa Fe to explain how “midsize” the Santa Fe feels in real life.

Term

all-terrain tires

"It has unique badging and 18-inch wheels with all-terrain tires. The all-terrain tires are probably the biggest bow to going off-road that this vehicle has."

All-terrain tires are made to work on both regular roads and rougher surfaces. They’re one of the main reasons this SUV can feel more “off-road ready.”

Term

2.5-liter turbocharged inline 4

"Under the hood, this vehicle does not use the hybrid powertrain... It uses the 2.5-liter turbocharged inline 4 with 277 horsepower, 311 pound-feet of torque."

It’s a small four-cylinder engine with a turbocharger. The turbo helps it feel stronger without needing a bigger engine.

Term

turbocharged engine

"I have some questions about having a turbocharged engine in a vehicle like this, but just for longevity's sake... maybe that's not an issue."

A turbo can make the engine work harder, so some people worry about how long it will last. Here, the host notes the long powertrain warranty as reassurance.

Term

10-year powertrain warranty

"They do have a 10-year powertrain warranty, so it can't be that much to worry about."

This is Hyundai promising to cover big drivetrain repairs for a long time. It helps if something expensive breaks in the engine or transmission area.

Term

eight-speed automatic transmission

"To your point on automatic transmissions, this has an eight-speed automatic transmission teamed with the H-track all-wheel drive system..."

This is an automatic gearbox with eight different gear ratios. It helps the car shift smoothly and keep the engine in the right “sweet spot.”

Term

Multiple drive modes

"Multiple drive modes, Comfort, Eco, Sport, Smart, and it has the"

Drive modes are presets that change how the car behaves. For example, Eco usually aims for smoother, efficient driving, while Sport tends to feel more responsive.

Term

turbocharged powertrain

"Your thoughts on powertrain and overall thoughts about this thing before I go onward here. The turbocharged powertrain is plenty powerful, as you say."

“Turbocharged” means the engine gets extra air pushed in, so it can feel more powerful without needing a bigger engine. It usually helps with acceleration and pulling power.

Term

snow mode

"You don't need to go into snow mode or anything like that, so some of those feel superfluous, but they're there for what they are."

Snow mode is a driver-selectable AWD/traction setting designed to reduce wheel slip and manage throttle response on low-grip surfaces. The hosts argue it’s not strictly necessary because the system works well even on the standard setting.

Term

up to towing capacity of 4,500 pounds

"Yeah, they have up to towing capacity of 4,500 pounds, so that's a reasonable amount."

Towing capacity is how much weight the vehicle is allowed to pull safely. “4,500 pounds” is the maximum the car is rated for (assuming you use the right setup).

Term

50-50 split folding third row

"It has a 50-50 split folding third row. I just think it's a really worthwhile kind of interior, very useful versatile interior."

The third-row seats can fold down in two halves. That way you can carry bigger items while still keeping some seats available.

Term

H-tex

"It has leatherette. H-tex is what they call their faux leather, and I think it looks good."

H-tex is Hyundai’s name for their fake-leather seat material. The hosts are saying it looks good and works well for them.

Term

leatherette

"It has leatherette. H-tex is what they call their faux leather, and I think it looks good."

Leatherette is a synthetic upholstery material designed to look and feel like leather while typically being easier to maintain. The hosts mention Hyundai’s specific branding for this material (H-tex) and how it compares to real leather in their view.

Term

152 cubic feet of passenger volume

"In terms of interior, passenger volume, gigantic, 152 cubic feet of passenger volume, 79.6 cubic feet of cargo space behind the front seats."

This is a measurement of how much room the cabin has for people. More cubic feet usually means the seats and space feel less cramped.

Term

infotainment

"Infotainment and technology very, very good because it uses the Hyundai system... it's easy to navigate it when you're driving... They also do a good job with physical steering wheel control."

Infotainment is the car’s main tech system—like the screen for music, maps, and phone features. They’re saying it’s easy to use without distracting you.

Brand

Genesis

"Hyundai doesn't do a lot of flashy graphics and transitions and things. Genesis does, which is a Hyundai brand, but even so, it's easy to navigate it when you're driving."

Genesis is Hyundai’s luxury brand. The hosts are comparing how the two brands handle infotainment screens—Genesis may be more flashy, but Hyundai’s setup is still easy to use.

Car

Hyundai Genesis

"...t of flashy graphics and transitions and things. Genesis does, which is a Hyundai brand, but even so, it's..."

Genesis is a luxury car brand that comes from Hyundai. It makes cars that are meant to feel more premium than typical mainstream models. The podcast mention is about how Genesis presents its cars with more eye-catching design and visuals.

Term

total sticker price

"Let me tell you exactly what this cost. The total sticker price was $44,000. That's a lot of money."

“Sticker price” is the manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) shown on the vehicle before taxes and fees. When the hosts say the total sticker price is $44,000, they’re emphasizing the upfront price point rather than the final amount you might pay after dealer charges and taxes.

Car

Volvo EX60

"He and I sat down and talked about the Volvo EX60 that we got a special look at fairly recently here in Southern California... An exciting day to talk about an electric vehicle, the electric EX60."

This is Volvo’s electric SUV/crossover called the EX60. The conversation is about what it’s like and how Volvo is approaching its newer EV products.

Car

Volvo EX90

"We have talked before. We're talking yet again about a brand new product... especially with electric vehicles, you've introduced several now. EX90, for example. Correct."

The EX90 is another Volvo electric vehicle. They mention it to show that Volvo has already been rolling out multiple EVs, not just one.

Concept

EV tax credit incentives

"and of course, there was a tax credit that was a major, major financial advantage in buying one. Now that's gone, but I think maybe things are starting to level out."

They’re saying that earlier, buying an EV was cheaper because of government tax credits. Now that those credits are gone, EVs have to make their case based on normal things like range and price.

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OEMs stepping in to keep EVs affordable

"but the OEMs have kind of stepped in and are still trying to make the cars affordable for the consumers."

OEMs are the car companies themselves. The idea here is that even without tax credits, the companies are trying to keep EVs priced so regular shoppers can still afford them.

Car

Hyundai EX60

"Yeah. Well, let's talk about EX60. Yes. Exciting vehicle... Let's dive into the powertrain and charging and all that."

The Hyundai EX60 is an all-electric SUV. They’re talking about how far it can drive on a charge and how quickly it can charge, plus different versions with different power and range.

Car

Volvo XC60

"I happen to drive here in an XC60. Okay. I was just struck about how nice that car is... captured all that in the EX60, right?"

They’re comparing the new electric SUV to the XC60 to explain how big and practical it feels. The point is that the EX60 should feel similarly sized, but with more room inside.

Concept

Spa3 platform

"...since it's built on our new Spa3 platform, we're able to increase the proportions. So we'll have some more roominess on the inside..."

A platform is the car’s main “foundation” that determines how the body and components fit together. They’re saying the EX60’s new platform helps it fit more space inside and use space more efficiently.

Concept

electric range

"...P6... gets over 300 miles of range. About 307 is what we're seeing... The P10... will get 322 miles of range... P12... up to 400 miles of electric range."

The segment repeatedly cites electric range figures for different EX60 configurations, emphasizing how far the vehicle can go on a charge. Range is one of the biggest practical considerations for EV buyers because it affects trip planning and charging frequency.

Concept

zero to 60

"The P10... will get 322 miles of range in about 503 horsepower. So about 4.4 seconds zero to 60. And then we'll have the top of the line P12... 3.8 seconds zero to 60..."

“Zero to 60” means how fast the car can accelerate from standing still up to 60 mph. It’s a simple way to compare which version feels quicker when you need to speed up.

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charging time

"This will have the best charging time of any Volvo that we've produced. So in 10 minutes, you could get 173 miles of charging, or you could go from 10 to 80% within 16 minutes."

This is about how fast the battery can be replenished at a charger. They’re comparing a quick charge that gives you a lot of range versus a longer charge that gives you even more.

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NAX charging built-in

"And what's really neat about the EX-60 is it's going to have the NAX charging built-in, so no need to have adapters, and you could use a supercharger network without needing adapters. Which is nice, because there's a little bit of fumbling around, I think."

This means the car is set up to charge using a certain charging system without needing extra add-on pieces. That makes charging simpler and usually faster to do in real life.

Company

supercharger network

"And what's really neat about the EX-60 is it's going to have the NAX charging built-in, so no need to have adapters, and you could use a supercharger network without needing adapters."

This is a network of fast charging stations. They’re saying the car can use those stations more easily because you don’t have to mess with adapters.

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flat load floor in the rear

"And speaking of interior space, the load floor in the rear is flat. So again, more roominess for our customer."

This means the back cargo area is mostly flat instead of having bumps or raised sections. That makes it easier to load groceries, bags, or gear without fighting the shape.

Concept

power recline

"And not only that, the rear seats have power recline, so the customer in the back has more space to relax."

Power recline means the seat back can tilt backward using buttons or switches. It’s more convenient than adjusting it by hand.

Term

Google as their assistant or maps

"So we've incorporated what customers are so used to using in their daily life. Usually they're using Google as their assistant or maps."

They’re saying the car can use Google for things like voice help and navigation. That’s meant to feel familiar if you already use Google on your phone.

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Google built into our car

"So Google is built into our car. You have Google Maps as a navigation system. Google Gemini as your assistant, which I've been testing out and I find very useful,"

Some cars now have Google services built in. That means you can use navigation and an assistant without always plugging in your phone first.

Company

Google Maps

"So Google is built into our car. You have Google Maps as a navigation system. Google Gemini as your assistant, which I've been testing out and I find very useful,"

Google Maps is the navigation app that tells you where to go and how to get there. In this case, it’s built into the car.

Company

Google Gemini

"Google Gemini as your assistant, which I've been testing out and I find very useful, especially having a seven-year-old. You're able to ask all types of questions and get a lot of knowledge while you're driving back from those pickups."

Gemini is an AI assistant you can talk to. You can ask questions and it answers, which can be handy for things like learning about people or events.

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Android Auto wirelessly

"But if you do want to use Apple CarPlay, that's going to be available as well as Android Auto wirelessly. Displays like instrument display and that kind of thing."

Android Auto wirelessly means you can connect your Android phone to the car without plugging it in. Then you can use supported apps through the car screen.

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curved OLED screen

"So EX60 is going to be our first car to feature a curved OLED screen. It's 15 inches and it's placed horizontally. We also have a forward facing dim that's very close to the windshield."

OLED is a high-quality screen technology. A curved screen can make it easier to see clearly from the driver’s seat.

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forward facing dim

"It's 15 inches and it's placed horizontally. We also have a forward facing dim that's very close to the windshield. So less taking your eyes off the road."

They’re describing a display placed near the windshield so you can see important info without looking down. That can help you stay focused on the road.

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triangle... squircle... square circle

"Cool. You have a different shaped steering wheel because of that? It is slightly different shaped, yes. So we call it a triangle. Not a triangle, but more of like a squircle, let's say, a square circle."

They changed the steering wheel shape to help you see the screen better and to avoid it feeling like it hits your knees. It’s more about comfort and visibility than looks.

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field of view

"That's for helping the field of view from that dim, as well as keeping more leg room, too, because since it's a little bit squared from the bottom, you don't feel it touching your knees."

Field of view means what you can comfortably see at a glance. The hosts are saying the design helps you see the important info without moving your eyes or head much.

Concept

0 to 60s

"...you do need those quick 0 to 60s because other cars have them as well, right?"

“0 to 60” is just a measure of how fast a car gets up to 60 mph from a stop. It’s one of the easiest ways to compare acceleration between different cars.

Concept

800 volt architecture

"So with the 800 volt architecture that the EX60 has, we're unable to unlock all this power in the car, as well as those charging times that I mentioned."

“800-volt” is the EV’s electrical system design. Higher voltage can help the car charge faster and deliver power more efficiently, but you only get the best results if the charger and conditions support it.

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P6, P10, P12 nomenclature

"...EX60 will be the first one to launch the P6, P10, P12... based off of the power that the car is producing... within our certain bands, that's how we're going to be naming them."

P6, P10, and P12 are Volvo’s internal naming tiers for performance/power levels on the EX60 platform. The hosts explain that the labels correspond to the power the car can produce within certain “bands,” and they map to motor configurations like single vs twin motor performance.

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single motor, twin motor

"Like, currently the EX90 has single motor, twin motor, twin motor performance."

Single-motor and twin-motor refer to how many electric drive units propel the vehicle. Twin-motor setups typically allow easier AWD behavior and can improve acceleration by distributing torque across more wheels.

Company

Bose

"...we have a 21 speaker Bose system standard that has noise cancelling, headrest speakers, sound zones."

Bose is the company making the car’s sound system. Here they’re saying the entry-level Volvo gets a multi-speaker setup with extra features like noise cancelling and speakers built into the headrests.

Company

Bowers and Vulkan

"But what's really amazing is our Bowers and Vulkan system, which is standard on the Ultra. 28 speakers, including headrest speakers in the front and rear..."

Bowers and Vulkan is the premium audio brand Volvo is using on the top trim. They’re saying it adds a lot more speakers (28 total) and includes headrest speakers in front and rear for a more immersive sound.

Company

Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra sound setting

"And tunable too, I imagine. Exactly. So the Bowers [2136.1s] and Vulkan system does have an equalizer. So you could set it to your own settings. [2140.4s] Set it to a podcast setting."

It’s a built-in audio mode that tries to make music sound like it’s being played in a concert hall. The goal is better sound quality, not just volume.

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equalizer

"So the Bowers [2136.1s] and Vulkan system does have an equalizer. So you could set it to your own settings. [2140.4s] Set it to a podcast setting."

An equalizer is a sound control that changes the balance of bass, mids, and treble. It helps you make voices sound clearer or music sound richer depending on what you’re listening to.

Company

Volvo EVs

"What do you think the average consumer should know about Volvo EVs versus the run-of-the-mill EVs? [2181.9s] I'd say you might see a lot of new EV brands coming up, but Volvo has been building cars for [2187.7s] about a hundred years now."

They’re talking about Volvo’s electric cars and how Volvo plans to make them easier to live with. The focus is on how fast you can charge, how far you can drive, and how service is handled.

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range 400 miles

"We're going to be experts in charging time. Range 400 miles is almost going to [2198.1s] be best in class. If not, it will be best in class. So we have the range covered."

Range is how far the car can go on one full battery charge. The hosts are saying Volvo is targeting around 400 miles so it competes well with other EVs.

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direct-to-consumer brands

"Service is also there available at actual retailers. [2210.0s] So that's a big sometimes. I mean, I think that's an important point. You shouldn't gloss over that [2214.7s] because I think there's a lot of direct to consumer brands where the consumers then struggle [2219.9s] to get their vehicle service."

Some EV companies sell cars straight to you online, without local dealerships. The hosts are saying that can make it tougher to get service, while Volvo’s approach keeps service tied to local retailers.

Concept

Volvo ecosystem

"What is [2239.8s] the Volvo ecosystem going to look like going forward? Mix of EV, I imagine, internal combustion [2246.0s] engines? Yes. Good question."

They mean Volvo’s whole plan for what happens after you buy the car. In this case, they’re saying Volvo expects to offer both electric cars and gas cars for a while.

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mild hybrid

"Can you walk, just for our listeners, walk them through what a mild hybrid is and then the plug-in hybrid... Yeah. So mild hybrid, it's not using, it doesn't have any actual electric range. It's a gas engine, but it has a 12-volt battery that helps with the efficiency of the gas, the miles per gallon that you're getting."

A mild hybrid is a car that uses a small battery to help the gas engine work more efficiently. It can’t usually drive very far on electricity alone, but it can improve gas mileage.

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plug-in hybrid

"...walk them through what a mild hybrid is and then the plug-in hybrid and how that relates to your lineup? Yeah... Our plug-in hybrid has what we like to say the best of both worlds... those daily commutes... you could go on a full electric range... but then they have the gas as a backup plan."

A plug-in hybrid is part-electric and part-gas. You can charge it and drive for a limited distance on electricity, and when that runs out, the gas engine takes over.

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12-volt battery

"So mild hybrid, it's not using, it doesn't have any actual electric range. It's a gas engine, but it has a 12-volt battery that helps with the efficiency of the gas, the miles per gallon that you're getting."

The 12-volt battery is the car’s smaller battery that helps run electrical systems. In a mild hybrid, it also helps the engine be more efficient, but it doesn’t let the car go far on electricity alone.

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charging situation

"as an EV owner with a home charger at my standalone house, I can say that in Iowa, I don't know what the charging situation there is. It's probably similar to the situation here in Maine."

Your EV’s charging situation is basically how you’ll charge it day to day. If you don’t have easy charging where you live or work, the car can be a lot more annoying to own.

Concept

home charger

"as an EV owner with a home charger at my standalone house, I can say that in Iowa, I don't know what the charging situation there is."

If you can charge your electric car at home, it’s much easier to live with. You don’t have to hunt for chargers every day.

Concept

public chargers

"Maybe your job has a charger you can use every day. Relying on public chargers, they're sometimes unreliable. They're sometimes very busy. They're hard to find. They often don't charge as fast as you need them to."

If you can’t charge at home, you rely on public charging stations. They can be crowded, sometimes broken, and may not charge as fast as you need.

Company

Mercury Insurance

"Alright, thanks to Mercury Insurance for sponsoring the show and to our sports byline network radio stations for carrying it."

Mercury Insurance is sponsoring the podcast. It’s not directly about the cars—more about who’s paying to support the show.

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