Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD Road Test: Rugged Style Meets Everyday Utility
About this episode
The hosts cover a wide-ranging mix of car news and road tests, from rising negative equity and counterfeit airbag warnings to a canceled Sony-Honda EV plan. The centerpiece is Jack’s review of the Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD, highlighting its 277-horsepower turbo engine, towing ability, roomy cabin, and $44,000 sticker. They also dig into Volvo’s EX60, especially its fast charging, Google-based tech, and range claims, before closing with practical advice on EV ownership for apartment dwellers.
This week on America on the Road, Jack Nerad and Chris Teague lead with road tests of two appealing mainstream SUVs — 2026 Hyundai Santa Fe XRT and 2026 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid. This week’s headlines take a closer look at the pressures reshaping today’s auto market, from rising negative equity and higher monthly payments to a high-profile pullback in the Sony-Honda EV partnership. We’ll also examine urgent safety warnings over defective replacement air bags, the growing role of AI and connectivity in, of all things, camping, and new research showing how poor air quality can impact your travel plans. (Or can it?)
🚗 Jack Nerad’s Road-Test: 2026 Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWDJack takes a close look at the semi-rugged Santa Fe XRT, powered by a 277-horsepower turbocharged engine with standard all-wheel drive and terrain modes. He highlights its added ground clearance, off-road styling cues, spacious three-row interior, and strong mix of technology and value that could make this likable SUV the right choice for your driveway.
🚗 Chris Teague’s Road-Test: 2026 Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid XSEChris evaluates the top-trim Corolla Cross Hybrid. While hardly a sports machine, it features a 196-horsepower hybrid system and standard electronic all-wheel drive. Its standout 42 mpg efficiency, updated styling, upscale interior touches, and intuitive infotainment system are among its virtues. But is the price too high?
🎙️ Special GuestGaurang Kalsaria, head of future vehicles at Volvo Cars Americas, joins the program to share insights on the upcoming Volvo EX60 battery-electric SUV and what it signals about Volvo’s electrified future. AOTR got a special behind-the-scenes preview recently.
📰 This Week’s Headlines Negative Equity Squeeze Hits Car BuyersCar buyers are facing mounting financial pressure as negative equity reaches near-record levels, with nearly one-third of trade-ins carrying more debt than their vehicles are worth. Rising loan balances, longer terms, and higher payments are reshaping how consumers approach new vehicle purchases.
Sony-Honda EV Venture Scales BackSony and Honda are scaling back their EV partnership, shelving AFEELA production plans and restructuring their joint venture. The move reflects cooling demand and broader uncertainty in the global electric vehicle market.
Air Bag Safety Warning IssuedSafety concerns are intensifying as experts warn about defective replacement air bags linked to injuries and fatalities. Drivers are urged to seek inspections and verify repairs through certified technicians.
AI and Tech Transform CampingCamping is becoming more connected as travelers increasingly turn to AI tools and satellite internet for trip planning and remote work. While adoption remains limited, interest in tech-enabled outdoor experiences is rising.
Air Quality a Travel Concern?A new global study finds that peak travel seasons often align with the worst air quality in many destinations. Researchers suggest adjusting travel timing could improve health outcomes for vacationers.
âť“ Listener QuestionTimothy from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, asks whether switching to an electric vehicle makes sense for apartment dwellers without easy access to home charging. Jack and Chris share practical considerations and advice.
America on the Road is brought to you by DrivingToday.com, EMLandsea.com, and Mercury Insurance.
📚 Jack Nerad’s New BookJack’s crime novel, Only One Thing Stays the Same, is available now in paperback and eBook on Amazon — currently at a sale price.
🎧 Where to ListenCatch America on the Road on your local Sports Byline Radio Network station each week and subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and more. Follow for new car reviews, guest interviews, auto news, and road tests.
Sponsored by Mercury Insurance and DrivingToday.com
📺 Watch & SubscribeFind America on the Road on YouTube and Rumble. Subscribe for road test videos, shorts, and extended reviews.
📨 Email: [email protected]
Check Out Matt DeLorenzo’s BookPick up a copy of co-host Matt DeLorenzo’s terrific new book Mercedes-AMG: Race-Bred Performance
Special Price for Jack’s Newest Crime NovelJack is now offering his newest crime novel, Only One Thing Stays the Same, at a 67%-off price of just $4.99. Click here to buy from Amazon at this special limited-time price.
AWD
"Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD Road Test: Rugged Style Meets Everyday Utility"
AWD means the car can send power to all four wheels. That can help it grip better on slippery or rough roads.
AWD stands for all-wheel drive, meaning power can be sent to more than just the front or rear wheels. It’s commonly used to improve traction in rain, snow, and uneven road conditions.
EV partnership
"As we hinted in an episode a few weeks ago, Sony and Honda are hitting the brakes on their high profile EV partnership, they're canceling all the Othila models and restructuring their joint venture, kind of restructuring it into not a joint venture I think, but we'll talk about that."
An EV partnership is when two companies team up to build electric vehicles. If they cancel or restructure it, it can change what cars they plan to make and when.
An EV partnership is a collaboration between automakers and/or technology companies to develop and produce electric vehicles. When hosts say one is being restructured or canceled, it usually affects future product plans, investment timelines, and supply-chain commitments.
Sony
"As we hinted in an episode a few weeks ago, Sony and Honda are hitting the brakes on their high profile EV partnership, they're canceling all the Othila models and restructuring their joint venture, kind of restructuring it into not a joint venture I think, but we'll talk about that."
Sony is best known for electronics, but it can also partner on car technology. In this episode, Sony is mentioned because its EV collaboration with Honda is being changed.
Sony is a technology company that has been involved in automotive collaborations, including EV-related efforts. The segment frames Sony’s role as part of a high-profile partnership that is being canceled and restructured.
defective replacement airbags
"Safety concerns are back in the spotlight, regulators are warning about defective replacement airbags. We've talked about this on the show maybe a year or so ago, but there's still causing injuries out there, so take a look."
Sometimes cars get airbags replaced because of a safety problem. But if the replacement airbags are also defective, they can still cause injuries, so regulators issue new warnings.
Defective replacement airbags refer to airbags that were previously replaced under a recall, but the replacement parts themselves may have defects. This can lead to injuries and is why regulators continue to monitor and warn even after earlier fixes.
AI and satellite internet
"Camping is getting a high tech upgrade as travelers turn to AI and satellite internet"
AI and satellite internet are tools that can make road trips easier. Satellite internet helps you stay connected even far from cell towers, and AI can help the system suggest things or manage information.
AI and satellite internet are being combined to improve connectivity and onboard experiences for travelers, especially in areas with weak cell coverage. Satellite internet provides coverage over large regions, while AI can help with routing, recommendations, and managing data or services.
air quality
"And going on the road on vacation might not be as refreshing as you think with new data showing that peak tourist season often coincides with the worst air quality in major destinations. Go figure. Do you consider air quality in your vacation destination choices?"
Air quality is how clean or polluted the air is in a place. If it’s worse during busy vacation times, it can make the trip feel less comfortable, especially if you have breathing issues.
Air quality matters for road trips because major tourist destinations can experience worse pollution during peak seasons. For travelers, that can affect comfort and health—especially for people with asthma or other respiratory sensitivities—so it’s increasingly part of trip planning.
EX60
"He's head of future vehicles at Volvo Cars America, and we'll be talking about the Volvo EX-60 battery electric that we got a preview of. So stay with us for that."
The EX60 is a Volvo electric car that runs on batteries instead of gasoline. The podcast is talking about it as a preview of what Volvo is bringing next. It’s included because it shows where Volvo’s future electric lineup is headed.
The Volvo EX60 is a battery-electric vehicle previewed as part of Volvo’s future EV lineup, discussed by Volvo Cars America’s head of future vehicles. It’s significant because it signals Volvo’s continued expansion of electric models beyond the already introduced EVs. The podcast mention likely focuses on what Volvo is planning and how the EX60 fits into their electrification strategy.
negative equity
"Negative equity. That's a big problem, right? Being upside down is a big problem."
Negative equity means you still owe more money on your current car than it’s worth today. If you trade it in, the extra amount can get added to your new car loan.
Negative equity (often called being “upside down”) happens when you owe more on your current car loan than the car is worth. When you trade in, that gap typically gets rolled into the new loan, increasing the amount you finance and the monthly payment.
upside down
"That's a big problem, right? Being upside down is a big problem. It's a growing financial strain."
“Upside down” means your car is worth less than what you still owe on it. So when you try to switch cars, you may have to bring that extra debt along.
“Being upside down” is the common phrase for negative equity—your loan balance is higher than the vehicle’s market value. It’s a financial risk because it can make it harder to get out of the loan without carrying the debt forward.
trade-ins for new vehicles carry debt exceeding the vehicle's value
"31% of trade-ins for new vehicles carry debt exceeding the vehicle's value. That means they were upside down."
The segment highlights a specific statistic: a large share of trade-ins involve debt that exceeds the car’s value. This indicates many buyers are financing the “gap” between what they owe and what the trade-in is worth.
rolled some of the debt they had on the old car into the new car loan
"They rolled some of the debt they had on the old car into the new car loan."
Rolling debt into a new auto loan is a common way negative equity gets carried forward. Instead of paying the difference out of pocket, the lender finances it as part of the new purchase, which can extend the time you’re paying off that gap.
monthly payment close to $1,000 ($932 is the average)
"When you look at what this does to the monthly payment of these folks, it's close to $1,000. $932 is the average."
They’re talking about how much the loan costs each month. If the average payment is around $932 (or close to $1,000), that’s a sign the financing is getting expensive. Rolling old debt into a new loan can make those payments even higher.
The discussion highlights how loan size and interest costs translate into monthly payments, with an average cited around $932. When borrowers roll prior debt into a new loan, the financed amount increases, which can push payments toward $1,000 or more. This is especially impactful if the loan term is long.
vehicle prices were pretty inflated (early COVID days)
"Yeah. I mean, if you look back in the early COVID days, vehicle prices were pretty inflated when we had some shortages and things were happening that were causing the prices to go up."
During the early COVID period, fewer cars were available and demand was still strong, so prices went up. When cars cost more, the amount you need to borrow usually goes up too. That can make monthly payments much harder to manage.
“Inflated” vehicle pricing refers to the period when supply constraints and demand shifts pushed new and used car prices higher than normal. Shortages can reduce inventory, which increases bargaining power for sellers and raises transaction prices. Higher prices then flow into larger loan amounts and higher monthly payments.
back end of those loans
"People like myself who don't want to keep a vehicle for a long time are now looking at the back end of those loans, and they haven't been paying on the value of them for that long."
The “back end” means later in the loan, after you’ve been paying for a while. If the car’s value drops faster than you pay off the loan, you can owe more than the car is worth when you try to trade it in. That’s when people may refinance or bundle the old balance into a new loan.
The “back end” of a loan refers to the later portion of the financing term, when the remaining balance may still be significant. If vehicle values drop faster than the loan balance is paid down, borrowers can end up owing more than the car is worth when they try to trade it in. That mismatch often drives people toward refinancing or rolling debt into a new purchase.
rolling in (rolling debt into a new car loan)
"Look, that is one thing that as many times as I've swapped cars I've avoided doing is rolling in because you end up paying for two or three cars with your current vehicle."
“Rolling in” is when you don’t pay off your old car loan before getting a new car—you add what you still owe into the new loan. That usually makes the new monthly payment higher and can keep you paying for longer. It can feel like you’re “starting over,” but you’re often financing more than the new car costs.
“Rolling in” means adding your remaining balance from an older vehicle loan (or other debt) into the financing for a new car. Because you’re effectively financing more principal, your monthly payment can jump and the loan term often stretches out. It can also leave you owing money on a car you no longer drive while you start payments on the new one.
average transaction price is up near $50,000
"I mean, the average transaction price is up near $50,000. So rolling that in on top of an already expensive car, you're kind of looking at some very steep payments for what could be a very long time."
“Average transaction price” is basically the typical price people pay for a car. If that average is around $50,000, it means more buyers are financing bigger numbers. Bigger numbers usually mean higher monthly payments.
The “average transaction price” is the typical negotiated price paid for a vehicle, including dealer discounts and add-ons depending on how it’s measured. When that average rises, it increases the typical amount financed and can raise monthly payments even if interest rates are unchanged. It’s a key driver of affordability concerns.
electric vehicle partnership
"Sony and Honda had put together what I thought was a very ambitious electric vehicle partnership. I was looking forward to seeing what they would come up with... Well, that's kind of going away, really."
An electric vehicle partnership is a collaboration between companies to share development costs, platforms, and technology for EVs. These deals often target manufacturing scale and faster time-to-market, but they can be canceled if business priorities change.
Ophila
"They have officially pulled the plug on that and the Ophila brand."
Ophila is the name of the vehicle brand mentioned in connection with the EV partnership. The segment says that brand is also being discontinued.
Ophila is referenced as the vehicle brand tied to the Sony Honda Mobility EV plans. The hosts suggest the brand is being dropped along with the broader partnership.
CES in 2023
"They had announced this at CES in 2023. And I think I was excited about it."
CES is a big tech show where companies announce new ideas. They’re saying this EV partnership was announced there in 2023.
CES (Consumer Electronics Show) is where automakers and tech companies often announce new vehicle concepts and partnerships. Mentioning CES in 2023 anchors when the Sony/Honda EV plans were first publicly revealed.
electric vehicles
"...the Ophila was one of those visionary early models when everyone was very excited about new electric vehicles. They're futuristic. They got a lot of tech in them."
Electric cars were once seen as very futuristic. Over time, many buyers started wanting cars that look more normal and cost less.
The segment contrasts early excitement for new electric vehicles with later consumer preferences for more conventional, lower-priced models. This highlights how technology adoption can shift as pricing, styling, and practicality evolve.
write off
"I mean, the scale of these things and the scale of the write off on this is just amazing, but it just shows you the scale of the auto industry globally."
A write-off usually means the car is considered too damaged or too expensive to repair, so it’s treated as a total loss.
A “write-off” in insurance and fleet contexts means a vehicle is declared a total loss and removed from service. The hosts connect the scale of write-offs to the broader costs of major automotive issues.
ASE
"Well, the ASE has automotive service excellence. That organization has advised that there's a lot of defective airbags out there."
ASE is an automotive organization that’s involved in helping train and certify car technicians. Here, the hosts are using it as a source for safety information about airbag problems.
ASE stands for Automotive Service Excellence, a well-known organization associated with automotive technician training and certification. In this segment, the hosts reference ASE as an authority that has advised about defective airbags.
defective airbags
"Well, the ASE has automotive service excellence. That organization has advised that there's a lot of defective airbags out there. And the airbag is right in your steering wheel."
Airbags are safety devices meant to protect you in a crash. If an airbag is defective, it can malfunction and hurt people instead of helping them.
The hosts are discussing defective airbags—airbag inflators or sensors that can malfunction. Instead of deploying safely to protect occupants, a bad airbag can deploy improperly or with excessive force, creating serious injury risk.
Takata airbag recall
"And if you look back at the Takata airbag recall, there are millions and millions of vehicles involved in this."
Takata made airbags that sometimes didn’t work safely. Instead of protecting you, they could break apart in a crash and hurt people, so many cars had to get their airbags replaced.
The Takata airbag recall was a massive safety campaign triggered by faulty inflators that could rupture and send metal fragments toward occupants. It affected millions of vehicles worldwide and led to repeated replacement programs over many years.
counterfeit airbags
"So these counterfeit airbags look just like the real thing. They're getting being put in sometimes by reputable shops who don't know any better, but they're no better than the defective airbags they replace."
Counterfeit airbags are fake safety parts sold as if they were real. Even if they look correct, they may not deploy properly, which can make an accident more dangerous.
Counterfeit airbags are fake replacement parts that imitate the appearance of genuine units but may not meet safety and performance standards. Because they can be installed by shops that don’t realize they’re fake, they can leave the vehicle with the same (or worse) risk as the defective airbags they replaced.
airbag inspection
"So yeah, and you can't tell just by looking at your car. So an inspection, like you said, is something that would be in order."
An airbag inspection is how you verify your car has the right safety parts installed. Because fake parts can look real, a proper check helps confirm you’re actually protected.
An airbag inspection is a check to confirm whether the correct, safe airbag components are installed and whether any recall-related replacements were completed properly. Since counterfeit parts can be hard to spot visually, inspection and verification matter.
airbag deployment
"certainly most cars are not going to be in a crash that deploys airbags, so that's good. But you never know."
Airbag deployment is when the airbag inflates during a crash. Most people won’t have a crash that triggers it, but if you do, you want the airbag to work correctly.
Airbag deployment is the event where airbags inflate during a crash to reduce injury. The hosts note that most cars won’t experience a crash severe enough to deploy airbags, but the risk still exists, which is why correct parts are critical.
genuine part
"But I think be very careful if you were replacing an airbag that you're getting a genuine part, I think that is critical."
A genuine part is the exact replacement part the car maker designed for your vehicle. For safety systems, using the right part matters so it works the way it’s supposed to.
A “genuine part” means an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) replacement part made for that specific vehicle. For safety-critical components like airbags, using the correct approved part helps ensure proper fit, sensors/controls compatibility, and deployment behavior.
AI trip planning
"Apparently a lot of folks, this is according to the DIRT, D-Y-R-T... are using AI to pick out campsites... I think a lot of people are using AI just to plan their trips or to give them a jumping off point on their trip."
Some people use AI to help choose where to camp. It can be a helpful starting point, but you still want to double-check details before you go.
AI can be used to recommend or shortlist campsites based on preferences, location, and availability. In practice, it’s often used as a “jumping off point” for planning rather than a fully reliable source of real-time conditions.
out on the trail
"You know, I don't know that I want it guiding me when I'm out on the trail or 606.7s doing those sorts of things, but for the planning stages, I could see it being 609.6s useful."
“Out on the trail” means driving on rougher paths than paved roads. It’s where traction and clearance matter, and you want to be more careful.
“Out on the trail” implies off-road or semi-off-road driving where surfaces are less predictable than normal roads. That’s where vehicle capability (like AWD traction and ground clearance) and driver planning matter most.
planning stages
"You know, I don't know that I want it guiding me when I'm out on the trail or 605.0s doing those sorts of things, but for the planning stages, I could see it being 609.6s useful."
The planning stages are what you do before you leave—like figuring out where you’re going and what to expect. It’s the part where helpful tools can make things easier and safer.
“Planning stages” refers to using tools or information before the trip begins—route selection, timing, and risk assessment. In vehicle/outdoor trips, this is where tech like AI or mapping can reduce mistakes before you’re actually driving or navigating.
satellite imagery
"Yeah, I can see this. 611.0s And also, you know, satellite imagery, you can kind of see where the campsites 614.6s are and things like that."
Satellite imagery is like a bird’s-eye view from space. It can help you spot where campsites are and get a better sense of where you’re going.
Satellite imagery is aerial data captured from space that can show terrain, roads, and landmarks. In an outdoor context, it helps people locate campsites and understand how remote an area really is before they go.
peak travel season coincides with the highest pollution levels of the year
"...in 45 major tourist locations... the peak travel season coincides with the highest pollution levels of the year."
Sometimes the time when everyone travels is also when the air is worst. So your trip could be affected more than you’d expect just because of the season.
This highlights a timing effect: the busiest travel period can overlap with the worst air pollution. That’s important for trip planning because you may experience the destination at its most polluted time, not just its most popular time.
wildfire smoke
"...in the American West... wildfire smoke has significantly worsened summer conditions in a lot of places..."
When wildfires burn, they release smoke into the air. Even if you’re not near the fire, the smoke can travel and make the air quality worse where you’re driving or visiting.
Wildfire smoke is a major source of seasonal air pollution in parts of the American West. It can significantly reduce visibility and make outdoor conditions worse, which can influence how comfortable a road trip feels during summer.
2026 Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid
"I drove the 2026 Toyota Corolla Cross hybrid. And I will be talking about the Hyundai Santa Fe XRT."
The Corolla Cross is a small SUV. In the hybrid version, a battery and electric motor help the engine, which usually means better gas mileage than a regular gas model.
The Toyota Corolla Cross is a compact crossover SUV, and this episode specifically focuses on the hybrid version. Hybrids use an electric motor to assist the engine, which can improve fuel economy versus the gas-only model.
trim level
"And I will be talking about the Hyundai Santa Fe XRT. It's off the off-road version of the Santa Fe."
A trim level is like a package of options for the same car model. The XRT trim is the one with the more rugged look and usually extra features compared with the cheaper versions.
A trim level is a specific configuration of a model that bundles features, styling, and sometimes drivetrain choices. When a trim is described as “off-road” or “rugged,” it usually means appearance upgrades and possibly additional capability-focused equipment compared with lower trims.
hybrid powertrain
"Toyota offers a gas and a hybrid version of this vehicle. You can get into it for around $25,000 on the base end."
A hybrid uses both gas and electricity. Sometimes the electric motor helps, and sometimes the gas engine does the work, which can help you use less fuel.
A hybrid powertrain combines a gasoline engine with an electric motor and battery. The system can run on the engine, the motor, or both depending on speed and driving conditions, which is why hybrids are often marketed for improved efficiency.
Toyota RAV4
"I thought, wow, this makes a lot of sense given the elevated price levels of the RAV4, uh, which is a wonderful vehicle, but getting pricier..."
The Toyota RAV4 is a mainstream compact SUV that’s often used as a pricing and value benchmark in the crossover segment. Here, it’s referenced because its elevated pricing makes shoppers look at alternatives like the Santa Fe hybrid.
2.0 liter four cylinder engine
"But the hybrid model comes with a 2.0 liter four cylinder engine and an electric motor."
A 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine is the gasoline portion of the hybrid system, providing power and helping charge the hybrid system as needed. In hybrids, the engine’s job is often optimized for efficiency rather than maximum acceleration.
electric motor
"But the hybrid model comes with a 2.0 liter four cylinder engine and an electric motor."
In a hybrid, the electric motor can provide torque for acceleration and can also help the vehicle move at low speeds with less engine use. It works alongside the engine and the battery to manage power smoothly.
196 horsepower combined
"...an electric motor. You get 196 horsepower combined."
Hybrid cars often list “combined” power, which means the total from both the gas engine and the electric motor. It’s meant to show how strong the car feels overall, not just the gas engine alone.
“Combined” horsepower is the total output you get when the engine and electric motor are considered together, since they can contribute power in different conditions. It’s a common way hybrids are rated so buyers can compare overall performance.
all wheel drive
"The hybrid comes standard with all wheel drive and it's powered by a continuously variable transmission."
All-wheel drive (AWD) sends power to more than one axle, improving traction when roads are slippery or uneven. In hybrids, AWD can also help the vehicle feel more stable and confident during everyday driving.
continuously variable transmission
"...powered by a continuously variable transmission. ...is not the most enthusiast friendly option... it lets the engine wine... and it just kind of dulls the driving experience."
A continuously variable transmission (CVT) uses pulleys and a belt (or chain) to provide an infinite range of gear ratios, keeping the engine near its most efficient operating point. The tradeoff is that many drivers feel the engine “rev” changes are less connected to acceleration, which can feel less engaging.
enthusiast friendly option
"The continuously variable transmission here... is not the most enthusiast friendly option. I think, you know, Hyundai, you made the one you might be discussing..."
“Enthusiast friendly” is shorthand for a driving feel that matches how a performance-minded driver expects the car to respond—often involving noticeable gear changes, direct throttle-to-speed connection, and less engine-sound “drone.” CVTs are frequently criticized in this context because they can keep the engine at a relatively constant speed while the car accelerates.
smooth daily driver
"But for a hybrid that's looking to save fuel and be a smooth daily driver, I think most people won't mind this..."
A “smooth daily driver” emphasizes comfort and easy, predictable behavior in everyday traffic rather than maximum performance. The segment frames the CVT’s character as acceptable for most buyers because the goal is fuel savings and calm drivability.
ride quality
"But again, this is not a performance vehicle. Um, the ride quality here is surprisingly solid... This vehicle is able to handle some of the potholes here."
Ride quality is how comfortable the car feels over bumps and rough pavement. They’re saying it doesn’t bounce or shake much, and it stays calm even when the roads are bad.
Ride quality describes how smooth and controlled a vehicle feels over imperfect roads. The hosts say the Santa Fe XRT AWD stays composed over potholes with minimal noise and “jitteriness,” meaning the suspension and chassis absorb bumps without making the cabin feel unsettled.
potholes
"They're starting to patch up the roads, but they're rough. This vehicle is able to handle some of the potholes here. There's not a lot of noise."
Potholes are holes in the road that can make your car hit hard or feel shaky. They’re saying this SUV deals with them without being too noisy or bouncy.
Potholes are a common winter road hazard that can upset a vehicle’s suspension and cause noise or harshness. The hosts specifically note the vehicle can handle potholes while keeping noise and movement under control, which ties back to suspension tuning and tire compliance.
hybrid fuel economy (city stop-and-go)
"And the hybrid does its best, uh, fuel economy reduction in the city where you're doing stop and go and the electric motors can take up more of the, the propulsion there."
A hybrid can use its electric motor more when you’re creeping along or stopping a lot. In city traffic, that usually helps it burn less gas than it would on a smooth highway drive.
In a hybrid, the system can rely more on the electric motors at low speeds and during frequent stops. That’s why city driving—stop-and-go traffic—often shows stronger fuel-economy gains than steady highway cruising.
cloth upholstery
"Uh, but inside this vehicle comes standard with cloth upholstery."
Cloth upholstery just means the seats are covered in fabric instead of leather. It’s usually comfortable and practical, but it may not feel as upscale as leather-like materials.
Cloth upholstery is the standard seating material in many trims, typically chosen for lower cost and easier maintenance. It can feel less premium than leather or synthetic leather, but it’s often more breathable and less slippery.
synthetic leather
"My top trim tester had synthetic leather upholstery as Toyota does. Their synthetic leather is pretty nice."
Synthetic leather is a fake leather material made to look and feel like leather. It’s usually cheaper than real leather, but it can still feel nice depending on the quality.
Synthetic leather (often called leatherette or faux leather) is a man-made material designed to mimic leather’s look and feel. It’s commonly used to provide a more premium interior feel while keeping costs lower than real leather.
heated front seats
"The top X, X, S, E trim... comes with heated front seats, a heated steering wheel."
Heated front seats warm you up using built-in heat in the seats. It’s a comfort feature that helps fast in cold weather.
Heated front seats use electric heating elements to warm the seat cushions and sometimes the backrests. They’re especially useful in cold climates and can improve comfort quickly without waiting for the cabin to heat up.
heated steering wheel
"...comes with heated front seats, a heated steering wheel. You get wireless phone charging and a power sunroof."
A heated steering wheel warms the part you hold. In cold weather, it helps your hands feel comfortable right away.
A heated steering wheel warms the rim using electric elements. It reduces discomfort from cold hands and can make winter driving feel much more immediate and comfortable.
power sunroof
"You get wireless phone charging and a power sunroof. The front seats are comfortable."
A power sunroof is a roof panel that can be opened and closed electrically, usually with a switch or button. It adds ventilation and light, and it’s typically more convenient than a manual sunroof.
wireless phone charging
"You get wireless phone charging and a power sunroof. The front seats are comfortable."
Wireless phone charging charges your phone without plugging in a cable. You just set the phone on the charging spot.
Wireless phone charging uses an inductive charging pad to transfer power without plugging in a cable. It’s convenient, but charging speed can vary by phone model and how well the phone is positioned on the pad.
Toyota GR Corolla
"You know, I owned a GR Corolla and even that sporty vehicle, there's some of the touch points and the ergonomics are similar between them."
The Toyota GR Corolla is a performance-oriented Corolla variant, so it’s a useful benchmark for how “sporty” touch points and ergonomics can feel. Here, the host says even in a sporty GR Corolla, the Hyundai’s layout feels similar in terms of controls and seating feel.
cubic feet behind the second row
"And again, some of the reliability that you get from a Toyota. You get 21, only 21.5 cubic feet behind the second row, which isn't a ton."
“Cubic feet behind the second row” is cargo volume, a common way to compare how much stuff an SUV can hold without folding the seats. Lower numbers generally mean less everyday practicality for larger items, even if the vehicle is otherwise roomy.
44 cubic feet
"Folding down the back seats, it expands that space to 44 cubic feet. And they do fold reasonably flat."
This is a measurement of how much stuff the SUV can hold. When they fold the back seats down, the cargo area becomes much larger—enough for bigger items, but not truly heavy hauling.
“Cubic feet” is a volume measurement used to describe cargo space. Here, folding the back seats increases the Santa Fe’s usable storage to 44 cubic feet, which helps explain how much you can fit for trips and everyday hauling.
wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
"Come standard with an eight inch touchscreen, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are also standard. My vehicle had a 10.5 inch touchscreen."
These features let your phone’s apps show up on the car’s screen. With wireless setup, you usually don’t need to plug your phone in every time.
Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are smartphone mirroring systems that let you use your phone’s navigation, music, and compatible apps through the car’s infotainment screen. “Wireless” means you don’t have to plug in your phone for the connection, which is a convenience upgrade.
digital gauge cluster
"My top trim tester also had a 12.3 inch digital gauge cluster, which is nice. Toyota tends to pack in way too much information onto that screen though."
Instead of regular dials, the speedometer and other info are shown on a screen. A bigger screen can make it easier to see what you need while driving.
A digital gauge cluster replaces traditional analog dials with a screen that can display speed, navigation prompts, and vehicle status. The segment notes a 12.3-inch digital cluster, which can improve readability and allow more customization than older designs.
Toyota Safety Sense
"And I'd also had a nine speaker JBL system and a full suite of Toyota Safety Sense safety features such as like blind spot monitoring, forward cross traffic, rear cross traffic, rear cross traffic alerts, forward collision warnings and so on."
This is Toyota’s package of safety tech that helps you avoid crashes. It can warn you about things like cars in your blind spot or traffic coming from the side.
Toyota Safety Sense is Toyota’s suite of driver-assistance technologies. In this segment, they list features like blind-spot monitoring, forward collision warnings, and cross-traffic alerts—systems designed to reduce the chance of common low-speed and intersection accidents.
blind spot monitoring
"...Toyota Safety Sense safety features such as like blind spot monitoring, forward cross traffic, rear cross traffic, rear cross traffic alerts, forward collision warnings and so on."
This feature watches for cars you can’t easily see in your mirrors. If a car is in your blind spot, it warns you so you don’t accidentally change lanes into it.
Blind spot monitoring uses sensors to detect vehicles alongside you and alerts you when they’re in your blind spot. It’s especially useful during lane changes and highway driving, where quick checks of mirrors aren’t always enough.
forward collision warnings
"...rear cross traffic alerts, forward collision warnings and so on. Jack, I think if I were getting this vehicle, I would opt for a lower trim to save some money."
This system watches the road ahead for situations where you might hit something. If it thinks a crash is likely, it alerts you so you can brake or steer sooner.
Forward collision warning systems detect potential frontal collisions and alert the driver—often with visual and/or audible warnings—before impact. The goal is to give you extra reaction time, particularly in traffic or when approaching slower vehicles.
JBL
"And I'd also had a nine speaker JBL system and a full suite of Toyota Safety Sense safety features such as like blind spot monitoring..."
JBL is a well-known brand for car audio. If the car has a “JBL system,” it usually means the speakers and sound tuning are meant to be better than the cheapest audio option.
JBL is an audio brand commonly used in car sound systems. Mentioning a “nine speaker JBL system” signals the audio hardware configuration and that the vehicle is equipped with a premium-tuned setup compared with basic stereos.
trim choice and value (opting for lower trim vs top trim)
"Jack, I think if I were getting this vehicle, I would opt for a lower trim to save some money. But if you're going for the top trim, 35 grand is not breaking the bank in terms of today's auto market."
They’re talking about whether it’s worth paying extra for the highest trim level. The idea is: you can save money with a lower trim, but the top trim may be worth it if you really want the added features.
The hosts discuss how buyers can choose between lower and top trims to balance cost and features. They specifically mention that the top trim is around $35k and argue it’s reasonable for what you get, while still suggesting a lower trim could save money.
Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD
"I think the Hyundai Santa Fe, I think they've done a really nice job. Hyundai has done a really nice job with the Santa Fe. I was driving the XRT trim, which kind of presents itself as a ruggedized... three-row SUV..."
This is a Hyundai Santa Fe with the XRT trim, which is meant to look more rugged and capable. It’s still an everyday family SUV with three rows, not a dedicated off-road vehicle.
The Hyundai Santa Fe XRT AWD is a rugged-styled version of Hyundai’s three-row Santa Fe. In this road test, the XRT trim is positioned as an everyday SUV with off-road-inspired looks and usable interior space for families.
Hyundai Palisade
"I would say the Hyundai Palisade is really, to my mind, more of the midsize vehicle, but this is a very roomy vehicle with three rows."
The Palisade is Hyundai’s bigger three-row SUV. They’re comparing it to the Santa Fe to explain how “midsize” the Santa Fe feels in real life.
The Hyundai Palisade is Hyundai’s larger-feeling three-row SUV that the hosts compare against the Santa Fe. The point here is that the Palisade is perceived as more “true midsize,” while the Santa Fe XRT is described as smaller but still roomy.
all-terrain tires
"It has unique badging and 18-inch wheels with all-terrain tires. The all-terrain tires are probably the biggest bow to going off-road that this vehicle has."
All-terrain tires are made to work on both regular roads and rougher surfaces. They’re one of the main reasons this SUV can feel more “off-road ready.”
All-terrain tires are designed to handle a mix of pavement and light off-road surfaces. In this test, the host calls them the biggest nod toward off-road capability, because tire tread and sidewall design strongly affect traction and durability off pavement.
2.5-liter turbocharged inline 4
"Under the hood, this vehicle does not use the hybrid powertrain... It uses the 2.5-liter turbocharged inline 4 with 277 horsepower, 311 pound-feet of torque."
It’s a small four-cylinder engine with a turbocharger. The turbo helps it feel stronger without needing a bigger engine.
This describes the engine layout: a 2.5-liter displacement turbocharged inline-four cylinder. Turbocharging uses exhaust energy to force more air into the engine, which can deliver strong power and torque from a smaller engine.
turbocharged engine
"I have some questions about having a turbocharged engine in a vehicle like this, but just for longevity's sake... maybe that's not an issue."
A turbo can make the engine work harder, so some people worry about how long it will last. Here, the host notes the long powertrain warranty as reassurance.
A turbocharged engine can raise concerns about long-term wear because it operates under higher pressures and temperatures than naturally aspirated engines. The host specifically questions longevity, then counters that Hyundai’s warranty coverage reduces the risk.
10-year powertrain warranty
"They do have a 10-year powertrain warranty, so it can't be that much to worry about."
This is Hyundai promising to cover big drivetrain repairs for a long time. It helps if something expensive breaks in the engine or transmission area.
A powertrain warranty covers major components that make the vehicle move—typically the engine, transmission, and related drivetrain parts. A 10-year term is meant to lower ownership risk, especially when buyers are concerned about complex systems like turbo engines.
eight-speed automatic transmission
"To your point on automatic transmissions, this has an eight-speed automatic transmission teamed with the H-track all-wheel drive system..."
This is an automatic gearbox with eight different gear ratios. It helps the car shift smoothly and keep the engine in the right “sweet spot.”
An eight-speed automatic transmission uses eight gear ratios to keep the engine in a more efficient or responsive operating range. More gears can help reduce engine strain during cruising while still providing flexibility for acceleration.
Multiple drive modes
"Multiple drive modes, Comfort, Eco, Sport, Smart, and it has the"
Drive modes are presets that change how the car behaves. For example, Eco usually aims for smoother, efficient driving, while Sport tends to feel more responsive.
Drive modes change how the vehicle responds by adjusting settings like throttle mapping, shift behavior, and sometimes steering or AWD characteristics. The segment lists Comfort, Eco, Sport, and Smart as examples of how the same car can feel different depending on the mode.
turbocharged powertrain
"Your thoughts on powertrain and overall thoughts about this thing before I go onward here. The turbocharged powertrain is plenty powerful, as you say."
“Turbocharged” means the engine gets extra air pushed in, so it can feel more powerful without needing a bigger engine. It usually helps with acceleration and pulling power.
A turbocharged powertrain uses a turbocharger to force more air into the engine, which typically boosts torque and responsiveness. That often makes a family SUV feel stronger during everyday driving and when climbing or passing.
snow mode
"You don't need to go into snow mode or anything like that, so some of those feel superfluous, but they're there for what they are."
Snow mode is a driver-selectable AWD/traction setting designed to reduce wheel slip and manage throttle response on low-grip surfaces. The hosts argue it’s not strictly necessary because the system works well even on the standard setting.
up to towing capacity of 4,500 pounds
"Yeah, they have up to towing capacity of 4,500 pounds, so that's a reasonable amount."
Towing capacity is how much weight the vehicle is allowed to pull safely. “4,500 pounds” is the maximum the car is rated for (assuming you use the right setup).
Towing capacity is the maximum weight the vehicle is rated to pull, typically under specific conditions and with proper equipment. The “4,500 pounds” figure is presented as a practical, reasonable number for this SUV class.
50-50 split folding third row
"It has a 50-50 split folding third row. I just think it's a really worthwhile kind of interior, very useful versatile interior."
The third-row seats can fold down in two halves. That way you can carry bigger items while still keeping some seats available.
A 50-50 split third-row means each side of the rear seat folds independently, letting you carry a mix of passengers and cargo. This increases flexibility—e.g., keeping some seating while expanding cargo space.
H-tex
"It has leatherette. H-tex is what they call their faux leather, and I think it looks good."
H-tex is Hyundai’s name for their fake-leather seat material. The hosts are saying it looks good and works well for them.
H-tex is Hyundai’s branding for its faux-leather (leatherette) upholstery material. In this segment, it’s used to explain the interior feel and why the hosts prefer it over traditional leather.
leatherette
"It has leatherette. H-tex is what they call their faux leather, and I think it looks good."
Leatherette is a synthetic upholstery material designed to look and feel like leather while typically being easier to maintain. The hosts mention Hyundai’s specific branding for this material (H-tex) and how it compares to real leather in their view.
152 cubic feet of passenger volume
"In terms of interior, passenger volume, gigantic, 152 cubic feet of passenger volume, 79.6 cubic feet of cargo space behind the front seats."
This is a measurement of how much room the cabin has for people. More cubic feet usually means the seats and space feel less cramped.
Passenger volume is a standardized measurement of how much space is available for occupants. Higher numbers generally indicate a roomier cabin, which matters for families and long trips.
infotainment
"Infotainment and technology very, very good because it uses the Hyundai system... it's easy to navigate it when you're driving... They also do a good job with physical steering wheel control."
Infotainment is the car’s main tech system—like the screen for music, maps, and phone features. They’re saying it’s easy to use without distracting you.
Infotainment refers to the vehicle’s integrated screen and controls for navigation, media, and phone connectivity. The hosts evaluate it based on usability—simplicity, easy navigation while driving, and physical controls.
Genesis
"Hyundai doesn't do a lot of flashy graphics and transitions and things. Genesis does, which is a Hyundai brand, but even so, it's easy to navigate it when you're driving."
Genesis is Hyundai’s luxury brand. The hosts are comparing how the two brands handle infotainment screens—Genesis may be more flashy, but Hyundai’s setup is still easy to use.
Genesis is Hyundai’s luxury brand, and the hosts compare its infotainment visuals to Hyundai’s approach. The point is that Genesis may use flashier graphics, but Hyundai still keeps the interface straightforward to reduce driver distraction.
Hyundai Genesis
"...t of flashy graphics and transitions and things. Genesis does, which is a Hyundai brand, but even so, it's..."
Genesis is a luxury car brand that comes from Hyundai. It makes cars that are meant to feel more premium than typical mainstream models. The podcast mention is about how Genesis presents its cars with more eye-catching design and visuals.
Genesis is a luxury brand within the Hyundai group, and the podcast mentions it in the context of presentation—like how it uses design and digital effects to create a “flashy” look. It’s often discussed because it represents Hyundai’s move upmarket, focusing on premium styling and a more upscale experience. That makes it a common topic when talking about branding and product positioning.
total sticker price
"Let me tell you exactly what this cost. The total sticker price was $44,000. That's a lot of money."
“Sticker price” is the manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) shown on the vehicle before taxes and fees. When the hosts say the total sticker price is $44,000, they’re emphasizing the upfront price point rather than the final amount you might pay after dealer charges and taxes.
Volvo EX60
"He and I sat down and talked about the Volvo EX60 that we got a special look at fairly recently here in Southern California... An exciting day to talk about an electric vehicle, the electric EX60."
This is Volvo’s electric SUV/crossover called the EX60. The conversation is about what it’s like and how Volvo is approaching its newer EV products.
The Volvo EX60 is an upcoming Volvo electric vehicle discussed in this segment as part of the brand’s EV lineup. The hosts mention they recently got a special look at it in Southern California and are now talking about it as an electric vehicle.
Volvo EX90
"We have talked before. We're talking yet again about a brand new product... especially with electric vehicles, you've introduced several now. EX90, for example. Correct."
The EX90 is another Volvo electric vehicle. They mention it to show that Volvo has already been rolling out multiple EVs, not just one.
The Volvo EX90 is another electric Volvo model referenced as an example of the company’s recent EV introductions. The hosts use it to frame the guest’s experience with Volvo’s evolving electric lineup.
EV tax credit incentives
"and of course, there was a tax credit that was a major, major financial advantage in buying one. Now that's gone, but I think maybe things are starting to level out."
They’re saying that earlier, buying an EV was cheaper because of government tax credits. Now that those credits are gone, EVs have to make their case based on normal things like range and price.
The segment references EV tax credits as a major financial advantage during earlier EV promotion. The hosts suggest that with incentives gone, automakers will rely more on vehicle value—range, charging, and pricing—to attract buyers.
OEMs stepping in to keep EVs affordable
"but the OEMs have kind of stepped in and are still trying to make the cars affordable for the consumers."
OEMs are the car companies themselves. The idea here is that even without tax credits, the companies are trying to keep EVs priced so regular shoppers can still afford them.
“OEMs” (original equipment manufacturers) are described as adjusting their strategies to keep EVs affordable even after tax incentives end. This typically means pricing changes, financing offers, or cost reductions to maintain consumer demand.
Hyundai EX60
"Yeah. Well, let's talk about EX60. Yes. Exciting vehicle... Let's dive into the powertrain and charging and all that."
The Hyundai EX60 is an all-electric SUV. They’re talking about how far it can drive on a charge and how quickly it can charge, plus different versions with different power and range.
The Hyundai EX60 is the focus of this segment, described as a fully electric SUV aimed at the mid-sized EV market. The hosts discuss multiple powertrain “flavors,” along with range and performance targets, and they frame it as competing on everyday usability once tax incentives fade.
Volvo XC60
"I happen to drive here in an XC60. Okay. I was just struck about how nice that car is... captured all that in the EX60, right?"
They’re comparing the new electric SUV to the XC60 to explain how big and practical it feels. The point is that the EX60 should feel similarly sized, but with more room inside.
The XC60 is used as a comparison point for the EX60’s size and “right-sized” feel. The speaker suggests the EX60 is conceptually similar in layout, but with more interior space and versatility due to its newer platform.
Spa3 platform
"...since it's built on our new Spa3 platform, we're able to increase the proportions. So we'll have some more roominess on the inside..."
A platform is the car’s main “foundation” that determines how the body and components fit together. They’re saying the EX60’s new platform helps it fit more space inside and use space more efficiently.
“Spa3” is described as the new platform underlying the EX60, and the hosts say it enables better packaging—more interior roominess and improved exterior efficiency. Platform architecture matters because it affects battery placement, cabin space, and overall vehicle proportions.
electric range
"...P6... gets over 300 miles of range. About 307 is what we're seeing... The P10... will get 322 miles of range... P12... up to 400 miles of electric range."
The segment repeatedly cites electric range figures for different EX60 configurations, emphasizing how far the vehicle can go on a charge. Range is one of the biggest practical considerations for EV buyers because it affects trip planning and charging frequency.
zero to 60
"The P10... will get 322 miles of range in about 503 horsepower. So about 4.4 seconds zero to 60. And then we'll have the top of the line P12... 3.8 seconds zero to 60..."
“Zero to 60” means how fast the car can accelerate from standing still up to 60 mph. It’s a simple way to compare which version feels quicker when you need to speed up.
The hosts use “zero to 60” as a performance metric to describe acceleration for different EX60 powertrains. It’s a quick way to compare how responsive each version feels in everyday driving and merging situations.
charging time
"This will have the best charging time of any Volvo that we've produced. So in 10 minutes, you could get 173 miles of charging, or you could go from 10 to 80% within 16 minutes."
This is about how fast the battery can be replenished at a charger. They’re comparing a quick charge that gives you a lot of range versus a longer charge that gives you even more.
The hosts are talking about how quickly an EV can add usable range. They compare a short top-up (10 to 80%) versus a longer session that yields a specific mileage estimate.
NAX charging built-in
"And what's really neat about the EX-60 is it's going to have the NAX charging built-in, so no need to have adapters, and you could use a supercharger network without needing adapters. Which is nice, because there's a little bit of fumbling around, I think."
This means the car is set up to charge using a certain charging system without needing extra add-on pieces. That makes charging simpler and usually faster to do in real life.
“NAX” refers to a charging standard/network interface that the vehicle can support directly. The key point is that having it built-in reduces or eliminates the need for external adapters when using public fast-charging.
supercharger network
"And what's really neat about the EX-60 is it's going to have the NAX charging built-in, so no need to have adapters, and you could use a supercharger network without needing adapters."
This is a network of fast charging stations. They’re saying the car can use those stations more easily because you don’t have to mess with adapters.
A “supercharger network” is a brand/operator of fast-charging stations for EVs. The hosts are emphasizing compatibility—being able to use those chargers without adapters due to the car’s built-in NAX support.
flat load floor in the rear
"And speaking of interior space, the load floor in the rear is flat. So again, more roominess for our customer."
This means the back cargo area is mostly flat instead of having bumps or raised sections. That makes it easier to load groceries, bags, or gear without fighting the shape.
A flat rear load floor makes it easier to slide items in and out and reduces the “steps” that can waste cargo space. It also helps with carrying bulky items because the cargo area is more usable.
power recline
"And not only that, the rear seats have power recline, so the customer in the back has more space to relax."
Power recline means the seat back can tilt backward using buttons or switches. It’s more convenient than adjusting it by hand.
Power recline lets the rear seats adjust their backrest angle electronically rather than by manual levers. That improves comfort and makes it easier for passengers to find a relaxed position.
Google as their assistant or maps
"So we've incorporated what customers are so used to using in their daily life. Usually they're using Google as their assistant or maps."
They’re saying the car can use Google for things like voice help and navigation. That’s meant to feel familiar if you already use Google on your phone.
Using Google services typically means built-in voice assistance and navigation features powered by Google. The segment suggests the car is designed to match what drivers already use on their phones.
Google built into our car
"So Google is built into our car. You have Google Maps as a navigation system. Google Gemini as your assistant, which I've been testing out and I find very useful,"
Some cars now have Google services built in. That means you can use navigation and an assistant without always plugging in your phone first.
The hosts are describing an in-car Google integration where navigation and an AI assistant are built into the vehicle rather than relying entirely on a phone. This can reduce setup friction and keep key functions available while driving.
Google Maps
"So Google is built into our car. You have Google Maps as a navigation system. Google Gemini as your assistant, which I've been testing out and I find very useful,"
Google Maps is the navigation app that tells you where to go and how to get there. In this case, it’s built into the car.
Google Maps is the in-car navigation system being referenced. It typically provides turn-by-turn directions, traffic-aware routing, and search for places along your route.
Google Gemini
"Google Gemini as your assistant, which I've been testing out and I find very useful, especially having a seven-year-old. You're able to ask all types of questions and get a lot of knowledge while you're driving back from those pickups."
Gemini is an AI assistant you can talk to. You can ask questions and it answers, which can be handy for things like learning about people or events.
Google Gemini is the AI assistant the hosts are testing inside the car. They describe using it to ask questions and get information while driving, including kid-friendly explanations.
Android Auto wirelessly
"But if you do want to use Apple CarPlay, that's going to be available as well as Android Auto wirelessly. Displays like instrument display and that kind of thing."
Android Auto wirelessly means you can connect your Android phone to the car without plugging it in. Then you can use supported apps through the car screen.
Wireless Android Auto lets compatible Android phones connect to the car without a cable. It typically brings navigation, media, and voice assistant functions to the car’s infotainment system.
curved OLED screen
"So EX60 is going to be our first car to feature a curved OLED screen. It's 15 inches and it's placed horizontally. We also have a forward facing dim that's very close to the windshield."
OLED is a high-quality screen technology. A curved screen can make it easier to see clearly from the driver’s seat.
OLED (organic light-emitting diode) displays can produce vivid colors and deep blacks because each pixel emits its own light. Curving the screen can help with viewing angles and reduce glare, especially when the display is positioned for the driver.
forward facing dim
"It's 15 inches and it's placed horizontally. We also have a forward facing dim that's very close to the windshield. So less taking your eyes off the road."
They’re describing a display placed near the windshield so you can see important info without looking down. That can help you stay focused on the road.
The transcript appears to describe a forward-facing display (likely an instrument/heads-up style screen) mounted close to the windshield. The goal is to keep key information in the driver’s line of sight to reduce head movement and distraction.
triangle... squircle... square circle
"Cool. You have a different shaped steering wheel because of that? It is slightly different shaped, yes. So we call it a triangle. Not a triangle, but more of like a squircle, let's say, a square circle."
They changed the steering wheel shape to help you see the screen better and to avoid it feeling like it hits your knees. It’s more about comfort and visibility than looks.
The hosts discuss a redesigned steering wheel shape—described as a “squircle” or “square circle”—to improve the driver’s field of view and ergonomics. Steering wheel geometry can affect how much the wheel blocks the instrument display and how it feels around the knees.
field of view
"That's for helping the field of view from that dim, as well as keeping more leg room, too, because since it's a little bit squared from the bottom, you don't feel it touching your knees."
Field of view means what you can comfortably see at a glance. The hosts are saying the design helps you see the important info without moving your eyes or head much.
Field of view here refers to how much of the driver’s view is occupied by the instrument/display area without needing to look away. Better placement and shape of displays and steering wheels can reduce the need for head movement.
0 to 60s
"...you do need those quick 0 to 60s because other cars have them as well, right?"
“0 to 60” is just a measure of how fast a car gets up to 60 mph from a stop. It’s one of the easiest ways to compare acceleration between different cars.
“0 to 60” is shorthand for how quickly a car accelerates from 0 mph to 60 mph. It’s a common performance metric that many buyers compare across brands, especially when discussing EVs that can feel instantly responsive.
800 volt architecture
"So with the 800 volt architecture that the EX60 has, we're unable to unlock all this power in the car, as well as those charging times that I mentioned."
“800-volt” is the EV’s electrical system design. Higher voltage can help the car charge faster and deliver power more efficiently, but you only get the best results if the charger and conditions support it.
An 800-volt electric architecture is a higher-voltage design used in some EVs to reduce current for a given power level. That can enable faster charging and more efficient power delivery, but real-world performance still depends on charging speed and how the vehicle manages power.
P6, P10, P12 nomenclature
"...EX60 will be the first one to launch the P6, P10, P12... based off of the power that the car is producing... within our certain bands, that's how we're going to be naming them."
P6, P10, and P12 are Volvo’s internal naming tiers for performance/power levels on the EX60 platform. The hosts explain that the labels correspond to the power the car can produce within certain “bands,” and they map to motor configurations like single vs twin motor performance.
single motor, twin motor
"Like, currently the EX90 has single motor, twin motor, twin motor performance."
Single-motor and twin-motor refer to how many electric drive units propel the vehicle. Twin-motor setups typically allow easier AWD behavior and can improve acceleration by distributing torque across more wheels.
Bose
"...we have a 21 speaker Bose system standard that has noise cancelling, headrest speakers, sound zones."
Bose is the company making the car’s sound system. Here they’re saying the entry-level Volvo gets a multi-speaker setup with extra features like noise cancelling and speakers built into the headrests.
Bose is mentioned as the audio brand for an entry-level Volvo configuration. The segment highlights a 21-speaker Bose system with features like noise cancelling, headrest speakers, and sound zones.
Bowers and Vulkan
"But what's really amazing is our Bowers and Vulkan system, which is standard on the Ultra. 28 speakers, including headrest speakers in the front and rear..."
Bowers and Vulkan is the premium audio brand Volvo is using on the top trim. They’re saying it adds a lot more speakers (28 total) and includes headrest speakers in front and rear for a more immersive sound.
Bowers and Vulkan is referenced as Volvo’s higher-end audio system option. The segment claims it’s standard on the Ultra trim and includes 28 speakers, including headrest speakers in both the front and rear—described as new for Volvo.
Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra sound setting
"And tunable too, I imagine. Exactly. So the Bowers [2136.1s] and Vulkan system does have an equalizer. So you could set it to your own settings. [2140.4s] Set it to a podcast setting."
It’s a built-in audio mode that tries to make music sound like it’s being played in a concert hall. The goal is better sound quality, not just volume.
This refers to a branded audio preset meant to simulate the acoustics of a specific performance environment. The point is that Volvo’s audio tuning is designed to be “musical” and not just louder.
equalizer
"So the Bowers [2136.1s] and Vulkan system does have an equalizer. So you could set it to your own settings. [2140.4s] Set it to a podcast setting."
An equalizer is a sound control that changes the balance of bass, mids, and treble. It helps you make voices sound clearer or music sound richer depending on what you’re listening to.
An equalizer (EQ) lets you adjust how different frequencies sound in the cabin—like boosting bass or clarifying vocals. In this context, it’s used to create presets (e.g., a podcast setting) so audio remains intelligible at different volumes.
Volvo EVs
"What do you think the average consumer should know about Volvo EVs versus the run-of-the-mill EVs? [2181.9s] I'd say you might see a lot of new EV brands coming up, but Volvo has been building cars for [2187.7s] about a hundred years now."
They’re talking about Volvo’s electric cars and how Volvo plans to make them easier to live with. The focus is on how fast you can charge, how far you can drive, and how service is handled.
Volvo EVs are being contrasted with “run-of-the-mill” EVs in terms of charging, range, and service support. The hosts position Volvo’s long automotive history as a reason they can execute better on EV ownership experience.
range 400 miles
"We're going to be experts in charging time. Range 400 miles is almost going to [2198.1s] be best in class. If not, it will be best in class. So we have the range covered."
Range is how far the car can go on one full battery charge. The hosts are saying Volvo is targeting around 400 miles so it competes well with other EVs.
“Range 400 miles” refers to an EV’s estimated driving distance on a full charge, typically based on standardized testing. The hosts use it as a benchmark for competitiveness in the EV market.
direct-to-consumer brands
"Service is also there available at actual retailers. [2210.0s] So that's a big sometimes. I mean, I think that's an important point. You shouldn't gloss over that [2214.7s] because I think there's a lot of direct to consumer brands where the consumers then struggle [2219.9s] to get their vehicle service."
Some EV companies sell cars straight to you online, without local dealerships. The hosts are saying that can make it tougher to get service, while Volvo’s approach keeps service tied to local retailers.
Direct-to-consumer (DTC) EV brands sell vehicles without the traditional dealer network. The hosts claim this can make service and repairs harder for owners, compared with a model where service is handled through local retailers.
Volvo ecosystem
"What is [2239.8s] the Volvo ecosystem going to look like going forward? Mix of EV, I imagine, internal combustion [2246.0s] engines? Yes. Good question."
They mean Volvo’s whole plan for what happens after you buy the car. In this case, they’re saying Volvo expects to offer both electric cars and gas cars for a while.
“Volvo ecosystem” here means the broader ownership and product strategy—how the company supports customers over time. The hosts describe it as a mix of EVs and internal combustion engines, implying a transition plan rather than a single-technology future.
mild hybrid
"Can you walk, just for our listeners, walk them through what a mild hybrid is and then the plug-in hybrid... Yeah. So mild hybrid, it's not using, it doesn't have any actual electric range. It's a gas engine, but it has a 12-volt battery that helps with the efficiency of the gas, the miles per gallon that you're getting."
A mild hybrid is a car that uses a small battery to help the gas engine work more efficiently. It can’t usually drive very far on electricity alone, but it can improve gas mileage.
A mild hybrid uses a small electric system to assist the gas engine, but it doesn’t drive the car purely on electricity. In this explanation, the key detail is the 12-volt battery that helps improve efficiency and fuel economy rather than providing long electric-only range.
plug-in hybrid
"...walk them through what a mild hybrid is and then the plug-in hybrid and how that relates to your lineup? Yeah... Our plug-in hybrid has what we like to say the best of both worlds... those daily commutes... you could go on a full electric range... but then they have the gas as a backup plan."
A plug-in hybrid is part-electric and part-gas. You can charge it and drive for a limited distance on electricity, and when that runs out, the gas engine takes over.
A plug-in hybrid (PHEV) can run on electricity for a limited distance, but it also has a gas engine for longer trips. The transcript describes using electric range for shorter daily driving, then relying on the gas engine as a backup on longer routes.
12-volt battery
"So mild hybrid, it's not using, it doesn't have any actual electric range. It's a gas engine, but it has a 12-volt battery that helps with the efficiency of the gas, the miles per gallon that you're getting."
The 12-volt battery is the car’s smaller battery that helps run electrical systems. In a mild hybrid, it also helps the engine be more efficient, but it doesn’t let the car go far on electricity alone.
In mild-hybrid systems, a 12-volt battery can support efficiency by powering electric assist functions that reduce the load on the gas engine. It’s still not the same as a high-voltage traction battery used for full electric driving.
charging situation
"as an EV owner with a home charger at my standalone house, I can say that in Iowa, I don't know what the charging situation there is. It's probably similar to the situation here in Maine."
Your EV’s charging situation is basically how you’ll charge it day to day. If you don’t have easy charging where you live or work, the car can be a lot more annoying to own.
EV “charging situation” refers to whether you have dependable access to charging where you park most often—at home, at work, or nearby. This strongly affects day-to-day usability and whether an EV fits your lifestyle.
home charger
"as an EV owner with a home charger at my standalone house, I can say that in Iowa, I don't know what the charging situation there is."
If you can charge your electric car at home, it’s much easier to live with. You don’t have to hunt for chargers every day.
A home charger (often installed at a residence) is a major factor in EV ownership because it enables convenient, overnight charging. Having reliable charging at home can dramatically reduce the time and hassle of daily driving.
public chargers
"Maybe your job has a charger you can use every day. Relying on public chargers, they're sometimes unreliable. They're sometimes very busy. They're hard to find. They often don't charge as fast as you need them to."
If you can’t charge at home, you rely on public charging stations. They can be crowded, sometimes broken, and may not charge as fast as you need.
Public charging is the alternative when you can’t charge at home or work. The episode highlights common pain points—unreliability, high demand, limited availability, and charging speeds that may not match your schedule.
Mercury Insurance
"Alright, thanks to Mercury Insurance for sponsoring the show and to our sports byline network radio stations for carrying it."
Mercury Insurance is sponsoring the podcast. It’s not directly about the cars—more about who’s paying to support the show.
Mercury Insurance is mentioned as a sponsor of the show. For listeners, this is mainly a branding/advertising reference rather than a technical automotive detail.
Request an Explanation
Heard something you'd like explained? We'll add it to this episode.
Sign in to request explanations for terms you heard.
Want to learn more?
Browse our glossary for plain-English explanations of automotive terms, jargon, and concepts.
Help improve this episode
See something that's not quite right? Our annotations are AI-generated and can sometimes miss the mark. Click the flag icon on any annotation to suggest a correction.