"I'm Riding Places" Josh Seiden #459

What is up everyone and welcome back to the fast life podcast on today's episode I'm sitting

down with my good buddy Josh from I'm riding places YouTube and Instagram he is a videographer

photographer a creative somebody I've known for many years in this episode he's sitting

down with us because he just quit his job of six years bought a motorcycle on Facebook

marketplace on the other side of the country flew out there and rode it back home it's a great

motivational kind of story I'm glad we got to capture it right in the middle of it and I got

to spend some time with him and yeah you're gonna hear all about it in this episode but first please

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hey guys you ready to let the dogs out

all right where do we begin it's a deep one I think we're already in so deep I'm in deep in

my trip we're in deep in the past three a couple of days I've been here in Dallas I've been in

Texas for shit mommy maybe four or five days now uh I was pretty hyped up first couple of

days in my trip and now I'm like man it's going downhill energy wise I'll be back to it tomorrow

when I'm on the road but yeah you know it's kind of like you do need to settle down and kind of

like chill for a minute get your bearings because I feel like on a trip like that if you don't have

a couple layovers every once in a while you'll kind of like start pushing destination mindset more

than like travel mindset yeah I was definitely pretty present for a little backstory for those

that are new I'm doing a solo cross country trip on a Facebook marketplace bike I just kind of last

minute found it it's a little more to the story professionally some life changes but yeah I found

this dyna defender in st. Petersburg Florida and I'm just kind of bugging across the country

visiting friends along the way jace is one of them but yeah I don't it's it's weird because when

you're on a trip and you're always on the move your body kind of adapts in a way that you

like at home if I get a shit night's sleep which is more often than I'd like I just I feel it the

next day yeah but on a trip you're kind of always getting not so good night's sleep if you're either

up late working or maybe you're going to a bar having a late night whatever and sure as shit the

next morning you're just on the bike jamming have you don't even you're not maybe you're not

thinking it's almost like your your your nervous system goes into more like maybe not fight or

flight but it's like ready for it oh you're running off adrenaline yeah in some regard you know

but no it's cool but I when you hit me up about doing this you're like hey you going to day tone

I'm like no this time my jammy goes cool I think I'm gonna come by and see you I'm like what so

how this is all unfolded it's all it's it's it's unique and it's um I think it's cool you know

you've been you've been you know growing I mean you've been with Tulane life for six years right

yeah and like you said so like he just stated you know you're you're stepping away from that

the secure job to go out and fucking spread your wings basically yeah all boiled down you know and

no uh no hate whatsoever those guys in my family they always will be and they've been they have

been supportive of my choice and I've been supportive of their goal and mission in helping them be

prepared for their next chapter as well as my own and it's exciting to uh you know I saw them do their

first uh livestream the other day and uh Paul's killing it behind the the scenes and they're they're

dropping videos and I'm dropping videos and everyone's doing our thing uh but yeah definitely a

different change of pace and a lot of regards that what came to mind when you were talking about

you know my trip is that over the years I have friends all over the country you know people that

I've yes industry folks and people that I've met through this but a lot of my own friends from back

home and they'll see me in Wyoming and they'll see me in Texas so hey come on by yeah and there's

just never been time for that because I am working I am producing uh capturing whatever it may be and

running everything to where we don't ever really have downtime yeah yeah actually when we came and

saw you in man it probably was 2020 yeah it's like that was one of the first trips in I guess a year

I guess we were still pretty new at that point that we did like actually chill in one place yeah

whereas normally it's like point A to point B have an amazing ride but you know you're documenting

on the phone for social you're documenting on the still camera for social print and uh product

photography and you know lifestyle yeah and then you're using the cameras for the YouTube and then

late you know check into the hotel whatever then it's editing then it's and it was just

non-stop and I want to there's nothing bad about that yeah it was a very good experience a lot of

learning um I just think there was always a misconception with people seeing it online

being like oh hey come on by let's ride you know there wasn't always times for that but we were

able to produce some some amazing stuff and capture some awesome memories yeah and uh the

production quality was just through the roof and that's kind of like and being you know knowing

you guys and spending the time I did in 2020 when you were still kind of I wouldn't say green in it

you were definitely already know how to do it but how you continued to polish it over the years

yeah with the drone footage with this with the interview styles with how that the the tooling

live channel is just kind of constantly uh morphed or evolved or you know grown in the way

that it tells the story yeah Jay Leno's garage and stuff I mean yeah and just all kinds of different

things I mean we we obviously focused on mostly travel oriented um which was great you know as a

especially as a young guy first couple years that's my way of seeing the country on motorcycle

a lot of times for the first time like there's no there's no beating that and when it's still new

either way I mean like you said I'm I'm learning how to tell the story how to document it and along

the way learning new skills in the camera world whatever you want to call it got my compressors

on yeah perfect how much do you think the I had a question and then that thing went off

air compressor yeah yeah I might it I'm gonna leave it on for this podcast it should be 15

minutes on every 15 minutes what it's doing is it's dumping all the water out of the uh out of

the uh I don't know the trap or whatever you would say human texas yeah yeah gotta kind of

clean air dry air whatever but well you know would you look I'm asking this for more of like a

creative what would you say that editing makes you a better shooter or shooting you know what I mean

kind of like like creating these videos like it's the I personally feel but maybe I'm not

trying to answer for you but like I do feel like editing helps me become a better shooter because

I see what it looks like on that side I think so you know if you're if you're like us and many

people who care about their craft when you're in the editing process and your pixel beeping and

really paying attention to the details that's the moment where you're like damn I really messed up

or I missed out and I didn't get that shot or I wish I framed that differently or okay I really

need to get some like focus pulling down to a science or shoot more 60 frame for b-roll or

whatever it may be or man my white belt like I think that's when you notice or even like storytelling

I wish I had more context in this moment yeah and that that's a skill that just gets sharpened and

the more practice you get the more consistent you do it the more opportunities you get to

to learn you know like if you're like film has been something that has taught me so much yeah

about cinematography film photography you know still photography because you're more intentional

you got 36 shots I have studied up on color science and the psychology of that through

different film stocks and that has taught me about a lot about how I want to color you know that

s-log three footage that has no color in it um I was going somewhere with that but like I said

it's been a long yeah it's been a long weekend yeah we just had the uh lone star swap meet this

past weekend and some of us didn't go to bed so eight this morning uh you got a good night's

rest this old guy you know I had a couple two three drinks or whatever made my way out of there

and buggy and said yo I made a little irish I'll see in the morning I was in bed by probably midnight

midnight yeah I'm an old guy now I think and a lot of it too I'm just I'm on the road I'm trying

to stay focused well rested really be present the whole the whole point of this trip was to have

a mental reset before I start this next chapter of life and you know like I said most of my

motorcycle motorcycle trips in the past six years have been for work very fun obviously still but

all day you're in the helm it's communicating directing planning shots having conversations

with your buddies it's great you know taking phone calls got the cardio if you need to whatever

but this trip I just threw on a three-quarter helmet not answering texts really not answering a whole

lot of phone calls just jamming out to some music and really doing my best to stay present and truly

enjoy the ride instead of trying to have that destination mindset and you know you want to

boil it all down and get philosophical that's just kind of the goal of falling into that mindset

in general throughout this next process because it's not going to be some night and day boom

I'm doing it like it's there is going to be a lot of challenge and I want to be excited about that

not be down so in that with that in the trip I'm trying to do the same thing you know as you've

like been a part of like the YouTube motorcycle space all these last six years does it do you

really feel or I mean trying to figure out how to ask this question but is that a viable career

do you think is there potential there or is it already you know what I mean I think the way I would

phrase it and it's something I like kind of ask myself or someone might ask me a couple years ago

if I were to have known what it would have actually been comprised of when I started

I would have had a lot harder of a time start I don't know that I would have done it yeah

but now that I've done it for so long and I have some of the recipes and I know these processes

and again the psychology behind them okay why is this video gonna do well how can we optimize it

for people to enjoy to learn something from whether it's about life or about traveling

or where to go or what to see I think if you're interested enough in something

you can always find a way to make it happen and whether it's with a team or by yourself

I've always had a hard time wrapping my head around trying to

make you know I think what the average person thinks of is like an influencer like

just posting on social media you can have millions of followers and millions of views

you won't make a dollar if that's the only thing you're doing yeah you know that's all leverage

to get people to a product to a website to a service whether that's yours or someone else's

it's a funnel I guess for me I try to I like doing a lot of different things I don't like

stagnation I don't like repetitiveness and my goal with a lot of this is

yeah I'm going to be sharing some travel some experiences and some stuff on social

but it's great marketing for me as a creative it's great marketing it's great networking you

know the people I've been able to meet not only because of like maybe some of my skills and I'm

better at but because of I'm putting myself out there having these experiences and now it

connects you to people doing the same thing and even last night I'm chatting up with a dude

that I just met and he had just sold his business he's starting this new business and guess what

a project that I had planned for 2026 really aligns with what he's doing and if I wasn't

out here traveling and I wasn't out here trying to learn from other people being a constant student

of those around me then that that wouldn't happen and all that's because of social in a way

yeah whether it's media on the phone or just being social with people yeah back to the question

yeah I think it's I think it is but it's you impact the layered system I think that I think

the service value they go if I make YouTube videos YouTube's gonna pay all my bills and it

it's I don't know if it's that way or yeah I've seen numbers and back ends of channels

bigger than my own bigger than channels I've worked for the views alone are not going to pay

your bills you know and let unless you're just always hitting it big but if you can partner

with brands and you can get brand deals I think the more and more that that side of industry

not even the industry not the motorcycle industry but social media in general

evolves the more people are trying to get into it and the more complicated it becomes

whether it's the algorithm or just the systems that are in place yeah so yes absolutely you can

do it but you just have to get creative and realize that what you thought about that system

a year ago is no longer true and we've had this conversation we probably had the conversation

last time we chatted on the podcast is there's a couple ways of thinking about it you can be like

yeah I am adjusting myself to the algorithm or am I fine tuning my skills to be a better

storyteller to communicate things better in a more concise way that inspires people that gets

people excited so that your reach does grow you know I've always found the psychology of business

and marketing and everything very interesting and when I kind of switch my mindset from you know

trying to do this for the algorithm to how can I be more effective I learned a lot and it has

paid dividends yeah but to go in and just you got to enjoy it you got to have fun you actually

have to want to have the outcome that you know if you want to sell a product you want to have to

solve it you want to be so yeah you kind of want to solve it a problem yeah yeah yeah it's uh

your point on the algorithm stuff because I mean I feel like I watched you build your

your Instagram channel the uh you know I'm writing places or yep how many you have you have like the

the what's the other one um I got my personal one that I try to keep you know low key and then

um writing places one um it's growing you know a little bit because of this but it seems like

like to what you were saying though it seems like you very like me I have this constant like I want

to fight the algorithm I want to fight how I fit into it and your approach seems to be

I want to understand it to figure out how I can be creative within it and and even though like

that does contradict my kind of view of wanting to just make the art the way I want to make it

yeah there is still kind of like a a constraint to like creative things you know what I mean like

a song is is made a certain there's certain things that have to happen for it to be a song yeah you

can play with all these things but there is still that I don't know that that that lane that you're in

and maybe that maybe the algorithm is the lane in in this analogy that I'm trying to paint I think

so it's also an opportunity to again get creative but work a little smarter and and it's not always

an effort thing like I remember when before when when I started with Tulane I didn't really use

social I didn't really do theirs I captured the photography I sent them videos that they could

post and Lance senior was doing the Instagram for a little while then when I started Instagram

my own for that stuff um because I didn't want to blow up you know my friends from high school with

my daily motorcycle stuff I once again forgot where I was going with that but uh damn yeah I

really really blanked out on that the algorithm stuff like figuring out how back in the early

times of doing stuff you know yeah so like I I didn't quite always understand why this edit

that I put all this time to with layers of sound effects and some a little a little attention to

detail with coloring and something that was produced wouldn't translate into growth when

something simple filmed on a phone would so I doubled down on production instead of double

down doubling down on storytelling which doesn't have to be well produced yeah you gotta have

good audio it's gotta can be filmed on a flip phone can't be annoying yeah it can't be annoying it's

gotta be easy to digest or watch you know like if you have a podcast it has really shitty audio

people don't have a hard time getting that message yeah and it took me years to

come to an internal solution about how to navigate that that I'm now you know all again

whether it was my own personal when I started my personal youtube channel like maybe nine months

ago it wasn't to try and do youtube like yeah of course I had thoughts about wanting to live my

own life on my own terms and and find a business model that can support that but a lot of it was

to try things without you know experiment without causing any negative effect to the brand's channel

yeah okay I can try some stupid thumbnail or title or weird concept and the only thing that

happens is it's on my channel it doesn't matter yeah and the same thing kind of went with instagram

and then when my instagram that started working then I started doing two lanes and we all you know

reap the benefit of that um and it's you know it's it's not a get with the times or get left behind

but all boiled down it kind of is because things are changing and younger guys are coming in and

you know you look at these kids and whether it's high school or early 20s that are hopping on

I don't really use tiktok or anything but just an example and they're learning how to

use that platform to their benefit yeah um a lot of them right now are just picking up the phone

telling a little story and it's getting people again is it inspiring is it educational and that's

it's a cool tool we all have it at our fingertips we got AI and all this wild stuff now that you

can pull knowledge out of an entire database instead of searching for it and uh it's not a if

you can't beat them join them but you know you just you got to always be a student if you're ready

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you know yeah or 10 years ago or not 10 yeah maybe 10 years ago jumping on youtube it was kind of

hard to navigate you know you remember the term youtube rabbit hole that that doesn't really get

said anymore that much it's really curated as opposed to like you know like i'll watch a harley

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it's kind of easy to navigate youtube now you know i mean it personally yeah and i and maybe this is

a little off topic and more you know we're just diving deep into the whole social thing but it

used to be that it was really important that you had a very specific niche yeah that you focused on

you're a painter or build custom bikes or you're a photographer but with a few exceptions most

people are interested in a lot of things i like food i like cooking i like running and lifting and

i'm weighing to health science and all that type of stuff now the way the systems are because that

data is being collected you know for example you could have a channel or or base your social about

more than just one thing and it'll still get picked up if you know how to do that that's

what i was telling you about that channel last night that i'm in love with it it's speed with

like three or four e's in the middle and it's just like it's like a men's magazine for youtube and it's

like they're car guys but yet they're talking about like the cameras and the history of car heart

and the history of Porsche and then they're talking about like what's a cool guy car for

ten thousand dollar budget this budget that you know what i mean like it's it i

that that's a channel that when when they pop videos i'm like fuck i ring those bells you

know what i'm saying yeah and i feel like it's something outside of my world so i feel like

i'm stepping out of like this constant inundation of motorcycle stuff to kind of get connected to

something else yeah don't get me wrong i love motorcycles but i i prefer to ride them yeah

but there is a lot of stuff i'll watch i don't watch i'll probably start watching a little more

youtube and you know haven't been watching a whole lot of tv just been trying to build stuff on the

side while i had a job and now i'm you know trying to just spend my time wisely and stay

engaged and not disconnected by just you know watching stuff i'd rather make and create and

go shoot and be inspired because the byproduct of that is you can share that with other people

yeah one of the you and i we've always nerded out about photography and the camera stuff and

things like that but both of us are big fans of the grainy days and you know it it was always like

i know we've talked about it and i'm so glad that you actually implemented it in your channel that

i'm it's i'm riding places channel right yeah so when you started doing those rips to the canyon

and and you're shooting film and it and i think you were telling me the night's like some of the

the people that are watching like you know i'm not super into photography but i'd love watching

you do something that you love to do it's like yeah you know that's kind of cool that that's

like a universal law you know when you talk to anyone that's passionate about something you receive

some of that energy and it gets you inspired to do that thing i got a message from this guy chris

today and uh he's based out of nashville he rides and he shoots some film and stuff and he saw my

i quit my job video which wasn't about again it wasn't about throwing shader i quit blah blah

it was just about turning over into a new chapter of life and taking matters into my own hands of

changes that i want to see made in my life yeah because i'm young and this is the chapter for

risk and i shouldn't be scared to take risks anyway he shot me a message today hey dude just

want to let you know you got me fired up and i pulled the trigger on signing a lease to start

my own barbershop and i've wanted to do that for years so for me to hear that and for me to read

comments of dudes saying or women whoever you know when i was your age or 10 years after i was your

age i decided to do the same thing and died and bet on myself and it was the best decision i could

have ever made so for someone like me that's outwardly showing a lot of confidence and i do

feel confident in my ability to uh make some stuff happen there's obviously a lot of

fear involved you're taking a risk you know i don't i like the beach but i'm not going homeless

i don't want to go homeless and uh not that i'm worried about it being that bad but you know you're

leaving the comfort of something that you know and diving into this whole new world and just

like people think starting a business is going to be easy breezy there's just like a road trip

something is always going to come up that you did not expect and like they say the only guarantee

is that there's no guarantee or yeah there's 10 versions of that saying yeah well i mean

like like i was saying like you you were telling me that you had went to college for business

did all this stuff the next thing you know you get out of college and you're

your youtube channel like producer basically yeah and but that skill set that i think that you've

honed over these last six years is very valuable in this world that we live in now you know what i mean

yeah without a doubt and you know the only yeah i learned to calculus and always random business

classes and whatnot but i learned more in two years of business i'm starting from the ground up

these guys um lancengale and who had both had various experiences in business themselves in

very different realms i learned more in a year or two years than i did in five years of business

school now the one term that stuck with me through business school was opportunity cost and that

opportunity cost is the opportunity lost when choosing an alternative so the opportunity cost

of deciding to work as like a marketing guy and youtube producer and photographer and this and that

that opportunity cost is the initial stability of being able to climb a corporate ladder at a job

which is great for some people but it's not what i wanted and when i started there it was

i'm doing i'm going to be doing my own thing i'm still in school but i would love to be doing

this for you guys and with you guys it sounds great and then after a year i'm like all right i'll

commit to a year after that i said i'll commit to five you know and that was a that was a big

commitment but i knew at that point that we were all committed to the end goal and you know so i stuck

around and after five years i gave it another year to see you know things would go where where i had

a envisioned and you know things change so but again i would have i would i would i would have

done it the same way again because you know our relationship grew we got to meet so many people

i got to see the country i got to sharpen my skills and whenever people are asking about

you know editing questions or production or storytelling you know my my best answer to

pretty much any of the questions is just go out and do it because i edited full full length you

30 minute episodes every week 52 weeks out of the year for six years we never missed a week until

i think year five we decided to you know one drop lined up on christmas and then new years so we're

like yeah whatever um but it was that repetitive nature in a good way of like you're getting consistent

practice that's a 10 000 hours doing yeah and that it really did come down to that and then

that 10 000 hours is is not even to like master anything but that's to get your foot in the door

to be able to call yourself a professional you know i still don't really call myself a photographer

but i do practice photography yeah and i'm always a student and because more enjoyable that way yeah

when you come to learn more about film or optics or cameras or focal length or composition or color

that's what keeps it interesting 100 yeah you had mentioned earlier that how going back and shooting

film really helped you hone your skills it was a pivotal thing pivotal pivotal pivotal i just say it

quick and it sounds like it's right um it was very uh it was something i needed and it reinvigorated

photography but it taught me a lot more about composition yeah like i said you're more intentional

about things but i think there's also something that at the time i started shooting film there was

also this other thing that was happening to me motorcycle wise where i was getting where i really

wanted the older bike or older feel or an older aesthetic and it it kind of like was paralleling

with um there is this these machines that are perfect to do everything you do the same way this

camera does everything we need to do but for some reason that one right there that's inefficient

in all kinds of ways i enjoy using more and inexpensive in all kinds of yeah yeah it costs

more it's like you you know and then i those 36 shots that half of them got light leaks and the

other ones aren't in focus i'm like why do i love this more i have 30 000 riding shots or this of

that or whatever the case may be but i'm looking at this 36 roll and for some reason i'm just really

connected to maybe the scarcity of it yeah i mean it comes down to intention but it also

comes down to learning lessons like if you're on an old bike and you're on a road trip and

something happens yeah one the dealers won't work on something older than a twin cam yeah

two like it's it's your responsibility to learn how to fix that machine and you didn't just wake up

one day learn how to fix it you learn by being stranded a couple times yeah and with film you know

my the best roll i ever shot i didn't load correctly so that the first time i ever got a blank roll

back i was i wasn't devastated but i was like wow like i just learned a lesson i'm never gonna let

that happen again yeah and so that was that lesson all right you you didn't install the lens correctly

didn't load it correctly whatever it is you're learning those lessons or damn i forgot to rate

the film in a fully manual camera yeah and now the whole roll is underexposed or blown out

and you're you're it's just a steeper learning curve that leads to very solidified learning

lessons yeah and yeah man i got i've always enjoyed carbureted bikes older bikes you know my first

Harley was an 86 FXR and coming from like sport bikes and dirt bikes that was like wow this this

feels very different because of professional relationships and all the traveling of course

i ended up on new bikes and i still do love them because there's there's just a different aspect

of fine tuning it to make it this perfect machine just like i would do with a modern camera if i

really needed to do some professional work but when i go out on my own like this trip on this

dyna that's got a fucked up motor mount and at 75 i'm getting a death wobble and i got wired

headphones going from my handlebars to my little three-quarter helmet and i can smell the exhaust

and the gas and i'm not really sure how many miles i got left and dudes are you know in their old

Ford pickup looking at me at a light going like damn like when i was in college that bike came out

and i remember that was my first bike or whatever it's something that everyone can connect over

and then yeah i wrote a foot clutch for the first time maybe two years ago and was like

blown away i couldn't stop thinking about it now i got bit by the bug yeah yeah we were talking about

that at breakfast this morning how like you have a you have a 2001 dyna defender that is 25 years ago

yeah so it doesn't feel like that long ago i was five years old when that bike came out yeah you

know yeah and so it doesn't feel that long ago as opposed in 2001 when you think 25 years prior to

that things look very different yeah you know it's just one of those things like when you post it up

and you put it in a in a you know a youtube channel you know the warriors out there all that

ain't a old bike it's like yeah not not everything has to be a fucking you know a knucklehead dude

yeah yeah don't be a knucklehead yeah don't be a knucklehead and it i think what people get so

caught up in when they're entering that world whether they're consuming or creating is just like

taking things too seriously you know okay i called an old bike and you don't agree with that i can

understand your side but like how else am i gonna okay cool motorcycle ride across the country

yeah it wasn't across the country you didn't start in Maine you know like there's there's always going

to be something and i just it amuses me sometimes what people have to say because they're not

out doing shit yeah you know yeah you have so much time to say something that's not

you know i i feel compelled to say something whenever i'm inspired yeah and i want to give

people ownership over that feeling they gave to me or yeah accolades or whatever you want to call

it but so you know it was it was funny because you know when you guys all thrashing everybody

i did the whole ride the surges and there was like buying the old bikes this last year i mean

i was it was kind of validating for me because i did you know i have also been on that cake but

it was cool to see that and then i was really engaged in all the content from both channels

throughout that process you guys riding the sturges last year and it was cool and everything

every feeling every reason like why i'm into it right now was being iterated in those videos on

both sides of the of the channels yeah i mean that it kind of goes back to enjoying it for

what it is for us as a as a a team of teams at that point sturges was always that one trip of

the year 15 minutes 15 minutes sturges was always that one trip of the year that was about not the

one trip but it our goal was to have a good time yeah the content was a byproduct we're documenting

of course we're still going to do a good job but for a couple years we're like four days to the

black hills that's still a push even on new bikes and just we got to get here because then the next

day we got to get here and we're still having fun and having dinners together and whatnot but this

last trip to sturges on the carbureted bikes was the first time we took damn near a week to get

there and we're camping together and we're going river rafting and we're fixing bikes five times

a day and making wheel spacers out of soda cans and and barbecuing and just really

really really living that experience and that'll that'll forever be one of my favorite trips

today it was awesome watch and and it's translated again it goes back to are you doing it to do it

and then all the everything people can view later as a byproduct or are you like just going out there

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yeah content creation buddy yeah i don't gotta put on the influencer caps and uh get out there but

you know with you you know you you sold that dyna right that from all that situation and in this

dyna that you picked up you have the roguelite right the new one yeah i was 24 there's uh

like run me like what is your feeling what is your why buy this bike the defender why do that like

what i mean i had planned on buying a dyna and then the defender just came up on my fee like

everything on my facebook marketplace was from local and then for some reason this bike like

almost 3000 miles away just pops up and i'm like i've always loved them you know i had a thing for

fxrp is for a while i've already had an fxr and something about the railbags on it and having the

you know auxiliary lights and had just the old police bike it was just something different

i didn't know those things came with bigger tanks either that was five point two i think which is

so it's like you're getting the best of both worlds between like it's almost like a mini road

king slash big dyna but i've always enjoyed machines and cool little trinkets and gadgets

that you just don't see very often and that's why i built that built that's why i put together

that green road king the way i did because you just didn't see that many at least at that time

you know road kings within fxrp fair you could you can't just go buy that

whereas some of the newer bikes like yeah i go down to nettoons net or pch on a sunday and there's

29 low rider sts and 15 road glides and yeah and then you start seeing the dinas and the

fxr's and the choppers that are all kind of made their own honestly i found that bike like two weeks

before the trip so it wasn't something i was all calculated and yeah it just lined up perfectly

were you kind of looking for something far away to do the trip and then that one ended up

being the the culprit of it or i'll boil down yeah like i i was just planning on maybe finding

something in arizona and just kind of riding home and once i committed to the decision of

going out and doing my own thing that trip in my mind became like how can i actually

make this an experience that i'll like never forget and how can i you know a bunch of times

this year i've seen some cool diner or chopper or whatever it is oh i'll get that and then it

sells yeah so with this i was like you know what this is it i'm trying to underthink a lot of this

next chapter of life and not what you call it analysis paralysis yeah yeah like fortune favors

the bull just go do it yeah so i hit the dude up i'm like hey bro i am not very close to you

i'll shoot you like 500 bucks if you can hold it take a deposit i'm gonna get a one-way ticket

i'll see you next week and it that just like making some spontaneous decision just got me so fired up

and then i started doing a little more research on the defenders and i liked them even more because

of it you know they're rare they're cool um i just i really enjoyed that low rider on the

sturgeon's trip and just wanted something like that you know and for you out there in the socao

you know area is it is it really easier to ride something like the dine out there versus the

roguelod when it comes to splitting or like is there is there an aspect there with it or is it

maybe a little bit i mean i'm i'm so used to yeah splitting on the roguelod and squeezing into

places that i think maybe a lot of folks wouldn't do on even a sport bike yeah but yeah if i when i

was on the the low rider and it had like the thrash in leather pro style bags which are a little

bit more narrow than the defenders yeah i was it was a little easier when i was in like la or

something and splitting through um it's you know you feel connected to older bikes without

maybe as much technology and i have so many great information yeah i noticed which you know we were

riding around again this is another thing i've talked about here a lot but you know yesterday

we we left the house in the van it's it's the gnarliest storm i'm like you don't get these out

there in cali huh you get storms but like it's just gnarly it's the rain wind blah blah blah

but like the van like the white wipers sometimes work the uh there's only like yeah it's either

overheating the battery don't work there's gas in it and then here's how fast you got no gas yeah

i don't know if the tires have air or not you feel it yeah it lets you know right but my jeep

it's like i get in the car i haven't driven it for a week yeah tpm s is going on it's like it's

sensor error it i feel like it it's constantly feeding you someone's information that you uh

it creates expectations in your head in some kind of weird way like it makes you like you're

thinking about the tire pressure sensor now which obviously is something you need to go

fuck with safe you know um gets too much you know what i mean yeah i was having a conversation

with someone recently you know i'm mechanically somewhat skilled i can fix a couple of things

but i'm by no means like i couldn't rebuild the motor like fix anything catastrophic on the side

of the road even with the twin cam but that was the adventure that i signed up for and

if something happens i'm gonna learn something yeah that being said if you only have an opportunity

to take one trip out of the year and like yeah the brand new bike is gonna be like when i went

on that trip to Idaho that was also a very last minute i'm pretty sure i decided to go

thursday morning i left on friday morning and i rode a thousand miles to boise hung out for a day

to do party at the pan and then rode a thousand miles home like that'd be pretty brutal on a dyna

what'd be if you couldn't i mean you if you keep your bike dialed all time but you would

still want to go through a little bit of a checklist a little bit of a i want to make

sure everything's good before i just yeah throw a thousand miles down whereas on that trip i it

wasn't i wasn't really worried about the bike making it i was more so focused on having this

experience and having a tool like that i would come back to using tools yeah that would that

was the perfect tool i had my tour pack and my speakers i'm charging my phone

it's got good mileage big tank great wind coverage i'm still still giving you the motorcycle

experience yeah and it's still giving you the harley davidson experience which i've always

enjoyed especially touring like you're it's still incredible you can't if you've never taken a big

trip you have to yeah it's literally like i i try to iterate that to everybody's like you

you get married to this once you hit the road the bar hopping stuff that stuff is that's fun

and that's a hot chick for a while but you're you can you can give that up yeah the road those

good experiences especially if you get to do with friends or you have friends on the road to go see

become these most like very visceral memories and and feelings of of like your past in your life

i have them on my wall in here you know and it makes me you know i love that shit you know what

i mean it's uh you know whether it's like now you get the the notification showing you hey remember

in 2017 this is what you're doing oh cool that's yeah i like that new feature on the phone but like

it's just stuff like that you know and it's the experience is the best teacher but travel is a

yeah i don't work with the with the youtube channel you know like like i said with the

photography aspect to it i love that direction but you're already kind of saying like you want

to be a more multifaceted like where you thinking you want to take the channel and stuff like that

that's a great question i haven't thought that far per se you know people have been asking

what what i'm going to do yeah i don't know man you know i have a pretty good idea of things that

excite me and i'm going to start with obviously integrating motorcycles and photography as i have

i just thinking about that idaho trip you know earlier we're talking about like you can't just

post a photo anymore that gas station photo of uh roam station on this just barren stretch of uh

of road you know i'm riding you went up to what the 395 i went 395 to like the 96 or something which

takes you all through nevada up into towards idaho but what that experience

it's taught me i guess about and i'll do my best to lead into actually answering that question about

where i want to take it is that merged storytelling with photography in such a unique way for me

because that that one shot became like the whole highlight of the trip and the story behind it

i think if i were to just have put that shot out there without sharing the experience of how it

came to be yeah it just would have been another post on instagram you know but then i end up you

know paying for the trip by selling prints yeah of that because it was such a in-depth moment

you know and and on this trip we were talking about it i'm holding on to the like a q2 monochrome

which for those that are unfamiliar is a digital camera that has a black and white sensor so it

doesn't have the color array it cannot capture color and because of that it has

obviously a couple limitations but a lot of strengths and this whole trip i've been shooting

photos on that and to me being able to look back at that when i get home whether it be a photo book

or just something for me to enjoy or something for me to share that is storytelling yeah you know

i want to make something that lasts i don't want to feed some machine yeah and i think that's what

is my intention with the channel i don't want i don't want to like just stick to a couple of

different things yeah it's probably always going to be motorcycles or at least travel

but my goal is just to inspire people to try new things and whether it be taking risk or

finding new opportunities for themselves or just traveling i mean traveling is just

it's the best you know it is and some people aren't exposed to it like i was fortunate that my

parents took us camping and introduced us to mountain bikes and ski or snowboarding and

road trips i mean my i've told the story a handful of times but growing up we would always

go to like mammoth on 395 and i'd be in the back of my mom's o1 land cruiser with a

green it's clear water cassette tape playing in there and i'm just looking out the window

and at that time you're just asking over there yet you're waiting you're waiting to get there

but i remember seeing as a kid these guys on like BMW adventure bikes in the middle of nowhere

on 395 and in my head at the time i'm like why are they doing that not in a why are they doing that

but just genuinely intrigued like i'm sitting here in a comfy car with snacks and quiet and i didn't

really get it but that was my initial exposure to like wow you can do things that are unconventional

and a reap of benefit from that and then church it 15 20 years later yeah here i am doing that

and living a life i probably would have never imagined as just a regular kid you know yeah yeah

so i want people to find whatever that is for themselves and if i can put stuff out there that

inspires them to do that then i'll die happy you know yeah the traveling aspect is and not to

not to dosate it either way of traveling but like the airplane solves the problem right the

airplane solved the problem to get you to that side of the country to get this bike would have been a

long time yeah um but the aspect so like literally this trip you're on is literally both types of

traveling yeah you know it's it's the convenient got there you know hat snacks on the way yeah and

then the all right i'm gonna go deal with the weather the sun the cold the the the traffic the

people the the changing climate or everything everything's changing right you going from the

coast to the to up here to the plains to the desert to the mountains to the fucking coast again it's

like you're earning everything yeah and there's a mix you know you talked about whether you're

traveling solo or with a group and if you are traveling solo seeing friends yeah that was the

cool like when i did the Idaho trip i knew there would be a body or two at party at the pan i knew

i had a buddy in Boise um that i'd probably see there and i knew that there would be a couple

people that would come say hello at the event but i was going there alone and to have this experience

of the unknown but on this trip what's so cool is that i'm you know in florida i initially had

planned on visiting a buddy but i would have had to go further away and couldn't make it happen

but i visited two buddies that i met Hamza and moose that i met in Sturgis and when they came out on

there like 50 day trip after Sturgis before even going home back to texas they came and visited me

and i showed them around and showed them a little hospitality um i will admit you guys do it better

you know hospitality wise but and they're like dude if you're ever out here hit us up and stay

with us blah blah and usually that's just kind of sort of the thing you're like oh yeah yeah for

sure someday down the road and i just realized that if i stayed down the path that was it would

never come yeah i had but anyway i digress i visit them for a couple days they show me around in a

place i haven't spent much time in yeah i visit another high school buddy from there i come up

here i visit you we have all these experiences i'm gonna go see some other friends and high school

buddies and this is all still in texas yeah and then go to arizona so this whole time i get all of

it i get some hotels i get some time alone i get some time with friends and shared meals and catch-ups

and all this life you know a year's worth of life and interaction squeezing to a couple of weeks

and uh yeah i always try to tell people when it comes to uh a lot of people were like i just

want to get a hotel i want my own space like man take the couch yeah the the couch and the kitchen

table conversations with the people that are hosting you or whatever opens up so much doors like me

and taylor from shifter crew are 100 as close as we are because when i went to his house for the

first time to do a podcast for with you know have him on he was like i'm gonna i'll put you up at the

casino down the stairs like oh man like the couch is fine we we split a bottle of buffalo

trace that night we never even did a podcast and we became best friends over the over a bottle in

his kitchen and i guarantee we'll be telling that story at least to each other for the rest of our

lives you know i'm saying but it's choosing a little bit of uncomfort a little bit of like

awkwardness you know like you you know we've had people come through town and i'm like hey man i

i'll put you up yeah vaughn gasfall came to town wasn't awkward but you know he comes to town he's

on a spirit quest or you know whatever and i'm like you can stay here as long as you want man yeah

you know i gotta go to work we gotta go to work you know if the door shut leave it alone you

open it yeah but you know for the most part don't let the cats out you know what i mean yeah

and that's uh that's an aspect that i think is coming back maybe it didn't go away but

what i've always noticed you know my parents did a lot of traveling before they had me my brother

and told us stories and some of which we got to experience ourselves during travel when you

meet someone in europe and they tell you in passing or after getting a cup of coffee next time you're

in europe come stay with us they're not saying that to say it like they mean it yeah they're gonna

and i more often than not when i hear it here maybe i won't say more often than not but it

doesn't always mean the same thing in the states but i think when you become a part of a community

and make it your mission to connect with people and and show up as that person that you would

love to show up for you yeah those experiences become possible and yeah if i was staying in some

hotel like hey jace you want to get dinner like you want what do you want what time are we doing

this now we're just living for a couple days and yeah you know you know i'm up at midnight when

everyone comes home from the bar yeah the uh you know i've been very you know fortunate to have

some i've had some very hospitable people over the years some of which have become very close

friends and whatnot and showed just they have way more money or they live in a way cooler place than i

do but i've always like taken a little bit of like that feeling that i got and that

just try to be that for everybody else that comes through here and like whatever way like

yeah i'm not rich i ain't got the money yeah i can i can probably get you a meal you know um but i

i want to just hey let's go do this i want to show you this part of town this is where we like

to hang out because the one thing about traveling that i think drives me the most crazy is that like

i really don't want to go to the tourist spots i want to go eat at the restaurants and the dive

bars and the things like that that are more local stuff you know i don't want to get the

13 dollar michelob ultra beer yeah i want to go to this not a crap beer brewery kind of nerd but

like i want to go to like the the places that we we were at last night that little down and out bar

and fort worth that place is cool i don't go to fort worth much yeah because i go a little too

hard and it's a long drive home but that was a cool little bar had a good vibe yeah another trip

that stood out to me uh with tulane was when we went to we flew into nashville but we rode down

to kentucky to go see cape city with the fish decline yeah and zam deal the southerners just know

how to do that hospitality but instead of us going there and basing a couple of our experiences

off of something we saw on the internet or by word of mouth and hey let's go check out this

restaurant and that we had her a local born and raised there that has deep family history show us

places and introduce us to people and share all this family history i mean there's at one point

we walked into the woods she's like it'll be like a mile i think it was like five miles

each way and we're yeah i got the big a7s i got the whole the river rig yeah we're just walking but

it was just this unforgettable time and after that ended up being one of my favorite trips in the

first four years because she took the time to show us what it would be like to be fully

like ingrained in that culture like what it would be like if you were living there and you knew

people and you were part of the community versus you're just passing through um and the same goes

for now i look at this place differently because we've checked out different things and i'm not

stressing about my 19th hotel bill of the month because you were kind enough to let me stay at

your place and eat your eat your salami when you're taking that not that i'm not going to turkey

eat your snacks in your fridge that's cut but you know let me uh raid the kitchen and then edit

from the couch and charge my shit and get a good night's rest and uh you know wrench on the bike

if need be whatever it may be it's a very it brings a whole new meaning to motorcycle road trips um

then just staying in hotels yeah i mean when me and the boys over the years when we've gone

travels it's like yeah when you're traveling on a bike you know you if you go get a fancy hotel

in every spot it gets expensive so yeah but sometimes men like the the dude that lets you

hey man i don't have that much space in my house but if all y'all want to just throw some sleeping

bags on the floor yeah you're good and it becomes like uniquely great experiences like one of my

closest friends bruce who lives on top of a mountain in washington who he's the one that

my roguelide my old uh goldish brown one this dude says hey you and the boys come up here

we right up there we leave a Eugene Oregon we ride up to you know just over hood river

kind of close to portland rain the whole time piss poor still beautiful right we get to his house

he went out and got like like salmon from the the area from the ocean or all that

shit wherever the fuck rivers then got steaks that were from there then got huckleberry pie that was

from there and like then he had a a whole he don't drink he's not a drinker but he had a

whole cooler full of montucky yeah you know it's like he just spread it out for us and then we're

at his house and like i said it's it's like a rainforest you know i'm saying and it was just

like one of the funnest nights i've ever had you know what i mean yeah and we're getting drunk

jaden crushed a beer can with his ass i got it on video it's funny as hell yeah um that's

our wives think we're out cheating on him like no chase this is what we're really doing yeah

i heard uh one of your buddies that i met at the swap meet uh tall dude he was talking about

building like a uh a not you know not a Harley chopper a similar chopper anyway he was telling me

about one of his friends hit up his parent or hit him up and said hey don't your parents live here

can we come stay with them he goes yeah let me hit him up hits up his parents

and they didn't tell him how many guys were coming 19 guys showed up on choppers and just took over

their house and his parents loved it yeah they drank they had a whole bar like in the basement

or downstairs these guys killed every bottle and the dad was just like reminiscent let's just

i got all these rad dudes yeah and i'm feeling young and wild and free again and just the way he

told the story i was like dude that's what it's all about yeah that's the you'll never forget that yeah

yeah the johns uh he at the east originally from new jersey and he had a lot yeah that story was

ragged he was telling me because i've been wanting to get back to new york pretty bad

and i said i would love to go get drunk in this dude's basement you know what i mean yeah so it's

like that that stuff's kind of cool and like i said you know the connection to people is something

you know when i go to venice and i stay with my wife's aunt she's that way very small house it's

not like they're trying to boast but like it feels so for lack of a better term intimate

to sit there you know you got the the sounds and smells of venice good or bad but it's still a

fucking experience and you're just in this place and then all of a sudden elon shooting rockets up

and shove it you know i don't know what is the venture area or whatever i started but yeah it's

just there's those weird it's the same way like when you're on your motorcycle on a cross-country

trip on a tuesday and you're just like man how lucky am i right now you know whether it's not

not to like boast or brag but like really being gracious in those little moments yeah how fortunate

am i to be able to be doing this yeah not regardless of circumstance yeah i think for a lot of people

myself included it's a getaway in that when you've made connections and you you know you might have

a place to stay it all of a sudden only really costs you gas money maybe a little bit of food

or or if you just do it and go camping yeah instead of like you know i think maybe sturges

is an exception because once you get there yeah you can still camp anyway like a lot of people

might only because they're unaware of how to still make it a good trip while keeping it cheap

they're like oh i could never do that or oh if i had your money like bro i've been checked to check

like for a very long time i didn't exactly leave a comfortable job you know what i mean but i'm still

doing this experience because i am confident that having the experience will get me

inspired to go live the life and make the decisions that i have to make to be able

for that to be comfortable one day or whatever it is you know like you can't take it with you

yeah i don't want to work when i'm 65 but yeah i think i'll probably ask me then yeah if i make it

until then remember we used to ride motorcycles oh man yeah i remember the last day we got to ride

those things i mean i for the bombs dropped yeah before it was all electric or whatever yeah i i spent

a lot of time carefully considering my options for you know over a year and having conversations

with people that i value their opinion and their experience because they've done something similar

i just know they have a good insight that can help me a lot of which are older than me by one

decade or four and the common consensus between all of them was i wish i took more risk when i was

your age and that can come in many forms that can mean many things but that's a good example of like

damn i really wish i took that motorcycle trip when i was 29 or when i was 35 or whatever before i

had all these responsibilities even though it would have meant maybe i'm not advocating financing a

trip but like maybe it would have meant overextending myself for a month or two but okay well now you'll

be happy i don't go around your motorcycle yeah you could in a sense you can always make more money

yeah you might be uncomfortable for a while but like i think maybe on the opposite of the end of

the risk thing is it like i felt like i'm always leveraging risk yeah right where it's like you

coming away with that fucking camera and like every night i'm like looking on marketplace i'm like

man i got a credit card i think i could probably swing this um it's like fuck it if i do it i'll

figure it out i'll bust my ass i'll work harder i'll get it paid for that's like the that's all i

have to do to have the experience or to have the thing i want then it's not a really you know hard

it's it's not hard it's just i gotta i gotta do it yeah i gotta sacrifice maybe maybe i'm not getting

as many espresso martinis for the next couple of months you're going on those dude making it happen

you know i'm just spreading the spreading the gospel you know what i mean i'm apologetically

drinking margarine margaritas martinis and uh and like you said if there's something that's

important to you and you and you you know really why you're doing it it's for yourself and not to

like please other people or show off or have some ego trip or whatever which all of that

life is much too short for that like go have the experience you know yeah i mean another thing we

kind of dabbled in talking about is that trying to remove so many expectations from the decisions

we make even though there is inherently gonna always be some form of expectations it's it's

kind of like it's it's not it's just being mindful of that right when i talked about that seven week

road trip and how like i'm on the road i'm sacrificing so much time away from my wife my kids

and my life i'm not getting the photography or the video or the things that i thought i was going

to get i i'm on the road for seven weeks i was only able to record like six podcasts yeah i've i've

gone i've done like four podcasts in a day before you know say you know how we can trip and get that

yeah and i'm like what the fuck and all these like beneficial things that i've i've kind of like

now received from that trip have come so far removed from it toward like in the moment it

made me really miss the life i had that i was maybe taken for granted in a way but now it's it's

giving me so much more perspective that i'm still unpacking here and there when i when i'd go through

the the album on lightroom and see the photos and i got the ones i liked that i want to be in the

book but then i go look at the ones i shot i'm like oh that one's pretty good too i don't

miss that one you know what i mean it really just puts me back into a mindset of when i was there

you know and it's there's a lot of that trip i regret because i wouldn't allow myself to

enjoy the moment i was putting all these expectations of like oh man i didn't wake up early enough to

get the sunset this whole day's fucked yeah you know i'm saying i had one of those days

on this trip where again like the first day even though i knew the first day wasn't gonna be ideal

and because of that i had a great time because i expected i made proper expectations or a

realistic expectations and then i was my own experience to pass that on the night making my

way i guess that would have been night three of the trip night two on the road on my way from

Pensacola or uh yeah from Pensacola to Houston i had told my buddies yeah i'll be there around eight

and well we made dinner plans and this that and the other and then like the tan shut down

and sent me through some weird detour in Louisiana which essentially shut down yeah and then there

was rain and then i couldn't see because my sunglasses blah blah blah my windshield 20 years

old and looked up and then i'm running late and i'm running on this stretch of road and i just wasn't

enjoying it like i knew i could have been and i stopped at the gas station noticed something's

loose on the bike and i fixed it and i sent a couple texts out and uh i'm just like in my head

i'm like man i hate being late i'm showing up two and a half hours late to see these guys and i was

just like bumming for no reason i was just tired yeah and and again my expectations were different

than my reality at that point and then like five minutes later free bird comes on in my headphones

and i just like snap into it and i'm just screaming out loud i'm like waving the truckers and i'm just

having the time of my life i'm picturing myself like singing in some country bar with good people

knowing that those times are coming yeah and making the best out of not a bad situation

but making the best out of the situation that pretty much five minutes before i wasn't enjoying

and it just goes to show that that's all a choice yeah managing expectations managing

how you feel in the moment and it was obviously a lesson i've learned many times in my life

mostly on road trips that it just like solidified again yeah and it it not again not to be too

philosophical but it was a perfect analogy for life like you could be grinding day to day

and going to something you don't enjoy or being involved with someone you don't want to be around

relationships business work activities but if you make that choice to just show up

and and be excited about it it'll pay dividends and it's not going to be a perfect thing ying and

i segued over there but it was that was just a very that was one of the most important

moments of the trip i think for me yeah i'm pretty sure i mean you're maybe halfway home

i think i'm about a little bit less 100 miles in and i think if i took the fastest route i have

about 15 or 1600 miles home yeah and i do have to go north to fulfill some obligations

um before i start heading west yeah so tomorrow i think uh sherman is like an hour and a half north

and then i'm either gonna cut down through you know odessa and midland and stuff towards

big bander at least towards the 10 because the 40 uh well when y'all came out and did the uh the

run a long time ago in 2020 and we all rode together i know y'all had to book it back so yeah

where we were at in bandera and we rode the twist of sisters and then i had never ridden big bend

yet it's so fucking badass yeah but it's it is out of the way there is it's not on the way

somewhere thing it's on the way to son i mean no no no so like the 10 is 150 miles away from it

north of it oh wow so you got a drop down into desolate it's but it's changing my expectation

yeah it it's one of those things that i would go there and stop there because you can loop it you

can do you can make it a looped journey or like a you know you can still make progress but it is an

intentional thing and it is truly unique down there i mean i've had there used to be an event

they're called runder atone or runder atone uh run to terra lingua and dude the sun sets there

which i mean what you're on the west coast so anytime the sun sets on water it's badass but

it's it's amazing there and these old ghost towns you you don't really know if you're in Mexico

or not but it's you're riding along the real grand there ain't no fence dude and that water

is not that deep well you know it's like i i could literally run to Mexico right now now

you're in some shit it's like you're not i don't know it's not that there's no there's no uh light

pollution you can like it is amazing one of the darkest skies in america too yeah i mean that has

been on my bucket list legitimately for at least four or five years and something that i just it

seemed out of reach and i had initially planned on this trip of going out there and meeting my

same buddies from houston on my way down from you know meet them both of our half ways there and

doing it and then i you know i had more people reach out hey these are some things you can see

and i just kind of figured that i'd be better off coming back with the truck and the camper and the

dual sport and like that in a week out there that would actually be really badass to do with that

but there's another route that i think that you could take once you leave odessa that will take

you around something pretty cool that i did on the way out whenever i saw you guys uh last summer

it'll still take you on the way to el paso but you'll go by some mountains and salt flats okay i

would like that you know yeah you guys rode you might have rode through it last time when y'all

came out because when y'all went to carlsbad yeah when y'all went to carlsbad juggle white sands new

mexico into it or did y'all come through el paso to it el paso because we uh we went to that

steakhouse no that's emerald oh that's an emerald yeah yeah y'all went north and then down yeah

probably uh this is a long time ago that's that's a trip yeah yeah yeah i would like to uh it's a

trip that's already been a week because i remember on day two i was like damn this i'm not not at all

close to home and i was obviously excited for what's ahead but i was like that's a pretty big journey

and now i'm like well yeah i'm almost halfway halfway on a two week time span distance wise

not so much but i also haven't traveled for four yeah you can make a lot better time going west

so once you get out into the open yeah the east is just congested you know what i'm saying

but i was actually excited to have at least two full days of like riding through nothing because

that's some of the best helmet time yeah once i'm on the 10 and i'm heading west

i could just stop when you're done fine okay well there's a hotel or there's a awning or whatever

but yeah it's been cool people reaching out whether it's like offering a place to stay or

hey my wife will cook dinner or if you need help with the bike or i got a trailer or

you should go here it's open my eyes to a lot of things that i can see where you know i could

picture the possibility of me being like and maybe i would like to get home but i do i do want to

squeeze a lot of a lot out of this experience if possible so i'm notorious when i would do all

the trips with the boys to where as soon as we hit the furthest point i would target

affixiation on home yeah where we had to start planning the trips to where there was so much

shit we were doing on the backside coming home that i really couldn't just skip it yeah because

i'll i'll ride to san francisco and be like sick i i'm just be lining home now yeah and um

it's something that every time i would do it i would be so disappointed in myself from all the

things i skipped or we're in roswell new mexico and we're gonna make one more stop in amarillo

or abalone or something and have a good night but i'm like man i'm 400 miles from home right now

i've been on the road for two weeks wife's sending me some cool pictures yeah i'm trying to get back

but if i take that extra day yeah and and hang out with the boys it's kind of like now we get to

end together as a group as opposed to like the night before when they weren't ready to say their

goodbyes i was already saying mine you know what i mean yeah so this is also the first time in my

life i'm still in the mindset of like i gotta be back at work on monday yeah i have to be working

on monday but i'm not like you know it's it's a very unique feeling of being like wow when i get

back i'm gonna have to hit the ground running to figure it out but there's not necessarily

what why would a day or two make a difference you know in the grand scheme of that so yeah i should

should take my time arizona i want to spend like at least a handful of days in arizona

doing some riding that i'm familiar with maybe checking out some new stuff and while i'm ripping

across the plains of texas yeah i want to see some cool stuff yeah it'll get if you stay on the highway

so i'm telling you like texas has a lot of great stuff but you gotta get off the highway okay um

i mean think about it like in california there's a lot of cool shit out the highway

um but here it's like man like i you know the the catalac ranch is right off the highway it

doesn't feel that special when you walk up to this thing that is so easy to obtain an experience

at el monte uh rv rentals and you know yeah i'm with you because that's how i feel about new

mexico i know you and me had talked about it when you were saying man there's nothing new mexico but

then the first time you went through riadoso and you went through northern new mexico you were like

dude this is rad yeah i'm like yeah but you've it's not you don't know it if you don't get off the

interstate and actually explore and like you said going through carls bed in a riadoso and

cloudcroft dude it is way different than any new mexico experience yeah well give me some

waypoints tonight so i definitely do it what um i mean this podcast probably won't come out to the

end of this month so you already be home and yeah on this next chapter but like what what are some of

the things you're gonna try to do in phoenix or like uh arizona like riding wise um the uh i always

love going to tortilla flat my buddy dale owns that that town uh it's outside you know where uh

gold goldfield ghost town is outside of phoenix but the road towards globin all it or is it more

going up north uh great question uh geographically i'm pretty i don't know but a lot of people will

do that ride when they're in arizona bike week okay but i i came across it and met dale the owner

when i was with on a trip with the two lane guys and since then we've become friends blah blah blah

but it's just this incredible road like freshly paved something like 190 or 300 you know some very

high number of curves and turns and it passes by uh what lake is that that would give you the give

you the i should know this but i'm looking it up right now while you're talking yeah towards you

patchy junction yeah it's right near patchy junction i believe um and that it's it's very

picturesque and it's just a cool ride uh so i want to visit yeah if i run into dale great i got a

buddy uh from high school was a fellow film photographer and this is a really good dude and

you know uh you know chris chaney yeah i follow i don't we don't know yeah i was gonna hit him up

he's a real salt of the earth dude just a good guy same deal rides motorcycles loves photography

and overpriced cameras and uh ben christensen is out there if he if he's in town i would love to

see if he wants to go do something and just just go ride and uh get the experience of like i did

here what it would be like to live there and and immerse myself a little bit and man some of those

sunsets in in arizona yeah every state's got their own but those arizona suns i want to see a couple

of those and um i don't know you know i got some projects that i'll be uh making a little more

public when i get home and that's what i'm trying to i'm very eager because i have stuff to finish

before i publish that but i also want to enjoy the trip and i'm just trying to find that balance

of like i gotta stay present and have these experiences because i can knock that out when i

between here and home i really didn't plan and lose much um for better or for worse i got a buddy

that just picked up and built a new dina that wants to meet in like joshua tree on my way home you

know kind of right yeah right with you i hope that fucking cricket's not really that heavy on the uh

on the audio so if you guys are listening and yeah we uh acquired a new cricket in the shop

sure did it's crickets mic yeah like uh but what um fucking crickets just talking to me

they're like the hardest thing to find in a shop like mine they'll be like behind like a

piece of two by four and it's like echoes and you're everywhere yeah um damn it i had downstairs

like a just big-ass megaphone just amplifies it corp god damn it i had i had another question i

ask you um well fuck me playing on the way home places to go people to see projects to finish

oh are you uh we never really talk about it much while you were here but is there

is there any desire or any open-mindedness to move from california or is it like you're trying to

um i have always wanted the experience of living in another state and i think if i

like off the bat if i had a gun in my head they're like where would you move if you had

to move now i'd probably phoenix you know yeah just to just to live a little more of a different

paced life um not you know like cave creek or something like that or compared to california i

could afford a house and a place to be at i've never lived more than more than like 45 minutes

away from where i grew up but which is a blessing and a curse i love it out there and i'd be completely

content staying you know my brother's out there brother and his wife are out there my parents

are close by um amazing roads and ocean and opportunity and especially as someone in the

creative field uh as long as i play my cards right there's there's gonna get some work for me um

but i also am a bit of an old soul and have no need to party or be around people all the time

and i would like to have my own little slice of land somewhere um and that's what these experiences

are showing me like yeah i could have a life in some other state yeah um it's always hard because

i i'm i'm very fond of a lot of the northern states but i'm always riding through them

at an ideal part of the year and like i love wisconsin i love riding through it i love i love

the dels area everything by the mississippi um i like the architecture i like yeah so much stuff

out there but i'm also like there in in the spring or in the summertime or yeah i'm there for mama

tried so it's like oh i can do this snow for a week and then it's like it's not for six more months

you know for sure yeah i think it if the right opportunity knocked i'd go pretty much anywhere

um professionally that is uh like i would love i would love to be able to slice a little bit of

my life i wouldn't want to do it forever but if i could just get the experience of living in like

one of the like a soho or something in manhattan you know it'd be i would love to live in a super

urban environment where everything i need is within a block you know the pub i go to is right there

the pizza joint there's the bagel stand i work from home where i gotta go jump on the subway to

you know midtown or some shit to yeah like that experience is a unique life i could do that for

maybe six months but it doesn't sound enticing yeah but an experience a worthwhile experience

yeah um yeah i think there's a lot of getting out of my own way that that i need this trip is helping

with but uh yeah yeah i don't know man i i got a lot of a lot of things to figure out um that being

one of them but yeah i don't know why it's a trip and then you die yeah have a good time

so i mean there's just this whole years there's there's a lot of unknowns obviously this whole

trip is kind of like opening up a can of unknown right yeah so it's like i would i was gonna be like

so you know what are you gonna do what's some other you're gonna be a sturgeon but

but i i feel like that's all kind of like a thing that's on the table would you say like whatever

you don't know what's gonna happen yeah i don't know and that's the cool part i think i'll go yeah

whether i go you know my brother's never been and he just kind of wrapped up his uh his harley

and it would be a pretty good opportunity for me to just go to go instead of every time i've been

filming other people and you know i could just go and photograph and take it all in and yeah

i was so kind of like bummed when uh grainy days went up there and did a

sturgeon's trip and it's like he's i'm watching this video this dude i really want i've talked to him

a handful of times um but i'd like dude i would have loved to show you this place yeah and like

you know like like the way that i'm showing you dalas or something forward like it's like bro like

take him to the dungeon yeah for sure i think yeah black and white it's like let me tell you this

campground man you're gonna you're gonna open your eyes just you're gonna want to get rid of those

Hondas or where the fuck you're riding and get some harley's after this i'm pretty sure he's actually

out near me somewhere he's in pasadena i think when i talk to him yeah that's pretty close by

we talked about doing a podcast together a little bit and then um i was like i can't remember if i was

driving or riding to california and i was like hey man i was a little pushy and i think he's a

little bit of a sensitive soul kind of dude and i think i was like coming in hot and heavy

because he was kind of interested but like i don't know man yeah i'm like yo dude i'm in town

i'm i'm staying in venice i could be i can do i can do this on your couch or we can sit out

on the uh on the patio or some shit but like i'd love to talk to you yeah you know and uh i could

see that i don't know the guy personally but yeah i could see him being like now i'm just gonna go

hang out with my dog yeah yeah something there you go shoot yeah whatever um his work is incredible

man it's uh yeah it that's one of the few things i actually will sit down and watch yeah and it

inspired i don't know i don't maybe want to say inspired my work but it it showed me that there's

enough people out there that have a genuine interest in watching uh someone enjoy photography

yeah yeah showed me that i can implement still photography into my photos and that people will

enjoy learning about the process like when i did a video on developing film and scanning for the

first time i had dudes commenting that were like damn i did that in high school 40 years ago i didn't

know people even still shot film or yeah you know hey what what should my first camera be or what i

want to get into photography all all these little things that you're introducing to people and the

cool thing about putting out videos is that now that's a resource that's always there so when

someone it reaches out and don't get me wrong i love uh being helpful and answering questions but

when you're one guy and all these people have the same question it's very hard to keep up

that's the reason why people make a video to answer all those questions now i can send you a link you

know and when uh hey guys a lot of people been asking me yeah so if i give a little hint into

part of one of the projects i'm working on next time someone reaches out and asks me what a good

camera is going to be i will be able to supply them with that whether it be a film camera used

or a brand new camera you have the experience to be able to say if you made a youtube video about

starting a youtube like i would watch that for the the the sake of all the experience that you have

within it right so when you say i would use this camera over this camera or whatever like i would

be interested in that kind of stuff myself especially if i was if this was like back when

really the only person i could find was peter mckinnon doing this stuff you know what i mean

which was still very helpful but like you know he's in a different world and now that there's

so many content creators in the motorcycle space i think you know that the dude justin james you

know you met him uh he worked with blockhead quite a bit he has some really good content uh

his shit hasn't blown up yet but he's a he's i've hung out with him at a couple different uh

like indian press ride and he was at the blockhead uh cruisy deal down here he does a lot of like

instruct like short real instructional videos of like how to get engaging content yeah it's pretty

nice yeah to check that out it's cool yeah i mean like i said you have that you have that

you have that pedigree or that uh the accolades of it to be able to stand there on the table and say

this is what i would do yeah and it's and it's like if it is something i truly uh

know and i'm not just like bullshitting the video that's one of those things where i think people

connect would be able to connect with it if i just like went out and yapped on camera and talked about

you know the reason why i like this like i did a video on

point shoots or a point shoot that my buddy luke that i'm visiting in arizona he gave me this

point shoot for my birthday and it was like not only one of the best gifts ever but such a perfect

camera you know when i made a video about that i it was partially to show people like don't over

complicate things don't over complicate photography um and also if you want to get started this is a

great option you can probably find it for eighty ninety bucks yeah you don't have to go get that

contacts t2 for thirteen hundred dollars uh you don't have to get the like m6 for six grand without

a lens or you know whatever it may be and again it all it all comes back to introducing people to

things but yeah i i do plan on you know i think people have really enjoyed following along on the

experience of solo road trips whether it be because they don't necessarily have people to ride with

or it's just something that's out of their comfort zone they like seeing someone else do it um but i

do want to i don't want to say i'm more interested in cameras than i am motorcycles but i do have a

bit more technical knowledge and that is something i will plan to share because i can go in my own

backyard and and just take a little hot lap or malibu canyons or by the coast and or bring a

camera with me on a on a camping trip with friends or whatever and just talk about that camera yeah

and that's something that i can repeat that's something i i can enjoy um and that can be a

resource to someone looking to try something new yeah no i think it'll do well and i think it's

interesting it's awesome when i first saw you was the first video you did uh was it

the the Idaho trip was that the first one you kind of dropped on your channel or uh

i think i might have went out with my buddy rob and jant like with some stunt friends

okay and shot uh some black and white on a fully manual on the olympus om 10 i think that was before

that was that the one that like you recorded but then you shelved it for a long time oh no that

so that came that came i think after the Idaho trip yeah i think the Idaho trip's the one i watched

i was like oh buck yeah it's the one that popped up onto my yeah that was definitely what what

kicked me into gear and being like you know what i do have interest in committing to this yeah um

whether it's uh as a hobby or for fun or or as a part of my uh repertoire professionally or creatively

but that i do want to touch on that uh because i think it'll give people some inspiration that have

gone out and film something and never got around to the footage in 2023 no it must have been 22

because i still had there i filmed it when i had that road came i just i wanted to dabble and i

wanted to see what it would be like you know could i talk on camera by myself could i adequately

share my passion for photography um and and have that be a place where more photography can live

for people that are interested in seeing it like you know you make a post and then it's gone but

if you have a video and again you're talking about the story of each photo anyway i filmed it i went

to go edit it and was just like i don't think it's gonna turn out that i never even gave myself

the opportunity to fail not that you're gonna fail doing that but um because you're just you're

just making a video but i just kind of shelved it and at the time someone that i spent a lot of

time with was really encouraging me to start and do do what i had just done now go out on my own

yeah they were trying to tell me to do that years ago and i just i didn't it's not what i wanted at

the time i knew i still had a lot of learning i knew it just wasn't my interest um but anyway

i digress i i never did anything with it and then when i started my channel i remembered though i

was digging through my photos like looking for a store to share and a post to make and i found these

i think it was illford hp five which is forever one of my favorite black and white

film stocks and just this set of photos has always been so so special to me there's

the county line shore across from

Neptune's net that print was like one of the first prints i ever sold and

that one of the first prints i ever made for my parents and that bike was one of my favorite

bikes and i just it was a new experiment for me using like yellow fill anyway it was it was a

first for a lot of things and i saw those photos and got so fired up but i was like damn if i just

edit that it that was me years i don't even look the same and and i i know so much more now and

this and that but i just realized you know what this is an opportunity to inspire someone and

it's an opportunity to fulfill a promise that i let myself down on so i just like recorded something

in the beginning saying three years ago i made this fucking and then i just

put the video itself on the end of it and i loved it and and uh yeah i don't know what the question

it was good no it was like yeah that was like i said when that that popped off like i said this

it was the idaho trip that really hit and it's funny because like those gas station

style shots like you got in there yeah when we were coming back from california i got one of

those two at the new mexico one was dope i also took a show it was like that was it was that gas

station where we made the decision like all right are we gonna push for dwayne's house or we yeah yeah

we're going yeah it was uh yeah because we we left um like josey's hideout essentially yeah

because we were camping we were staying in one of the cabins above it and we went and did uh uh

what was uh a glamis yeah and then we were we were dodging storms all on the eight until we

got to the 10 and then we hit the 10 and it got cold yeah yeah and so we were trying to get all

the way to el paso because we had a a free our buddy went and bought a bunch of air mattresses

okay there's a weight on us and like we struggled to get to dimming right yeah i think that's where

we ended up landing which is just before lost cruises but it's like once you hit uh that stretch

a 10 between like lost cruises and the border to go into arizona like dimming's in the middle of it

kind of got so i'll probably pass yeah you'll definitely pass if i'm if i'm going to phoenix

via the southern route through Tucson i'm taking the 10 that'll put me through lost cruises

for his lost cruises up more towards the 40 no lost cruises on the 10 yeah basically as

soon as you go through el paso on the 10 as soon as you cross the new mexico you're going to be

right there in lost cruises they're just right across the border from each other gotcha okay well

i guess i'm going through that that point i was looking at routes and initially and i love route

66 and yeah that's all north williams and i love going through flag on even if it's high 40 just

such a nostalgic road for me after all the two lane days and and but you know a little colder

than what i dress for this trip um there's good routes on the on the southern half of new mexico

into uh arizona where me personally like when i did that trip again the one i was just referencing

to on the way out there um i i stayed in el paso at our buddy duane's house and then as soon as i

got into lost cruises and i was 10 uh west i got off the road and it kind of takes you up and into

globe and then brings you into phoenix on from the eastern side of things so you kind of in the

mountains you know have you ever ridden salt river canyon in arizona where is that i think it's

between globe and show low i know i know one end is show yeah it's it's a long windy like i did that

the first time in 2016 when i in 2016 i was in norcal still painting a lot of baggers and i

started like and i've said this on the podcast like a lot of the customers that we were painting

baggers for if they were building big will baggers but they all had dinas and fxrs yeah so the dude

would ride his fxr to the shop to see how the big wheels going yeah and so i got to ride like a s and

s 124 dina and i was like holy shit this is so badass i came home got a dina um and then i kind

customized it you know air quotes built it was just more like do a lot of parts on it i wrote it to

phoenix in november because at the time i was closer with like dixon flannel and all that stuff

and this is when they were really kind of like in the early warehouse with the skate ramp and

it was a much more of a homey built up kind of brand and it was new and it was ours and it was like

you know it was a bike party you got shut down like 15 minutes after it started but we still had

a blast in phoenix but on the way home i met one of my close friends from that and we rode that canyon

just kind of like half like just happened to land on it what was dope too is like when you go up to

show low or show how do you say that when you start heading back east like you pass that array thing

you ever seen that with all the huge uh like uh radio telescopic kind of uh it's almost like

they're sending signals into space kind of thing yeah it's been it's been about four years i can't

say i remember but it's pretty gnarly yeah i've seen it i've written through there a few times at night

and completely didn't even know it was there and then actually doc uh used to live here yeah was

telling me about and i was like fuck i've written past that like a bunch of times but it's always been

like dark or i'm like tonal vision trying to get home i'm not even paying attention with the other

road but when you when you go there and you see these and they're all like like tracks they move

these things around it's pretty it's pretty sick yeah i uh if i could at least ride a road like

that on my way home and just have that experience i would love that there's a i thought for a second

about going a little bit of long way and going through uh like monument valley or something oh

yeah and then this morning i saw a video of uh was it portrait poppy or something one of the film

guys i follow oh it's covered in snow but i uh actually i had a i was at university of

you dar a university reached out and they have a building right within monument valley

that just got built for a new educational center and they reached out to uh have some of my work

in their new building and so i really i it's still in the process of getting there but

when that happened i was like if it lined up i would have totally went out i don't even care

about the cold to go see these giant metal prints of you know that i've documented during

some times in monument valley i do want to take you know uh a re a redo of some trips that i've

done just for myself to experience myself i mean my monument valley has so much to see

and y'all got y'all got the real yeah we got the real deal yeah and then my my buddy don donmos

junior junior uh out there you know again that's just another another person that we've had the

pleasure of encountering that has offered a stay a meal and a ride and some knowledge

and that that's culture that many people don't get the opportunity to learn about

from the horse's mouth so yeah that was that was really cool i would love to go down to mexico

you know on a diner just some just basic bring all the shit you need fishing pole or whatever

and i'm trying to do it on the chopper yeah i mean my goal this year is to whether i build

or get help or buy some sort of chopper because the roads near me you know we were talking about

this at breakfast about yeah there's this scene and some people are just trying to conform but at

the same time like that those machines are truly special because they teach you to slow down just

like film does and be more intentional in that i've reached the point now that i don't care about

going a million miles an hour i don't care about being the fastest guy yeah well of course i want

to have fun in some canyons but yeah on the at least up until this point on the few opportunities

that i had to like really go out and enjoy my motorcycle near me like i can't tell you how many

times i wanted to just hop on a chopper with a little half shell and just go get down to the

beach at 40 miles an hour with no music leave my phone at home and just putt and enjoy still

through the curves and the twisties and everything but they feel good at all speeds yeah you know

and smell the gasoline and to me i've been thinking about it a lot on this trip riding the dyna

because it is kind of i don't want to say the best of both worlds but it's a very well-rounded

machine that provides that nostalgic feel the non necessity of just flying one because i

need a new motor mount yeah and two minutes five speed but anyway like it is giving me what i

eventually hope to experience on a chopper out of this trip yeah and when i get home like i'm

probably gonna sell my road glide you know i got a one car garage i got a dual sport in the kitchen

there are groms in the living room and shit you know there's not enough room i'm starting a new

chapter i've got projects to fund they will always there will be another new bike in my

future of course because that's a lifestyle that i love to live traveling on a bike but

anyway like the dyna is going to be my daily for a little bit and i'm going to go

cruise the canyons and bring my laptop and spend some time working on the beach and

i hope that one day there's a chopper in that mix too yeah you know i do want to go man we had like

josh brolin and brian bow and smith and some of those dudes on the show

and the way they talked about trips like you know you can go do 600 mile days on a bagger and

it's fun but when you're with a group of dudes that are all on old bikes and you're just

fucking around and and going like 150 miles maybe for the day and stopping and going swimming and

getting some food and just like breathing in the air like i would love to do a 395 trip

on a chopper obviously i would love mexico yeah you know brush up on my spanish a little bit but

god there's just so much to see i really want to i don't think i'm gonna be able to get the

bike up there this year just because of how long it's it would take to ride the shovel head to

san francisco yeah but initially that was like i want to go ride the hardest possible place

for a jockey shift no front brake oh yeah in the city and there's yeah it's great and it

i'm kind of bitching out a little bit because there's been little times like even where we went

to go eat when you first got here to dallas the other day i would get off the highway and it would

be this most bitch-ass incline you could ever think of like not even hard and i'm like struggling

like oh shit like i don't know what to do my feet i'm like i'm like almost like my foot's behind me

i'm trying to push it up from it you almost have to like just fuck the traffic go to the top and

then just park it sideways until it's time to go and then go back yeah it's it's so intentional

like everything and but it's again like i was saying when you first got to the house it's like

it's so fucking visceral yeah it it does nothing that that roguelaj does but it does something to

me that the roguelaj can't you know what i mean yeah and you can only focus on that one thing

yeah i'm actually gonna go up to the bay area not this not the weekend i get back but the weekend

after that and probably take the dina assuming it makes it back home yeah and uh go see the bay

area with my my buddy george who's also a fellow film photographer and in the bikes and you know i

i'm up there all the time and i i blast through the city too much i would love to like be able to

go to san francisco or anywhere like on the peninsula either side of the the bridge and just be there

for a couple of days to get slowed down and more intentional and go shoot places and i'm always

like staying in like livermore or somewhere inland and then i'm passing through that way on my way

north or south yeah you know what i mean it's gonna be a little bit of a burn i think like i'll

probably leave on a friday morning spend the night in his house friday night and then saturday

sunday monday we'll go out get to his house or whatever get back to his house sunday night

so his trip is done but then i can spend the night there and i'm like five six hours south but

we uh we had that conversation of like well do you want to spend more time in the city

for me no i want to spend an afternoon there i want to ride across the golden gate bridge

and i want to get two or three film shots other than that um i want to get the fuck out i want to

get i want to see those little small ghost towns and i want to see those curvy roads and i'll come

back and see the city uh with you on a foot clutch and we'll both struggle to survive yeah um but

it's just i didn't maybe i'm just being a financial dumbass right now but like these are two

trips that i just have wanted to do forever and prior due to my schedule i couldn't even commit

to going out for a three or four day trip to go visit friends just because uh i i take my

responsibilities seriously and things that i have to get done and it couldn't fit into the schedule so

um already you know these experiences have taught me so much and i'm like you know i look at someone

like danger dan who just is living god the man that he's alive he's present um he shows up with

energy um for so many people and he also travels like a motherfucker and i he's traveling right now

yeah i don't think that that first part is a coincidence because that second part you know

he he's allowing himself to live that life i don't know if you ever heard he did this series

of podcasts when he he wrote from here to like argentina like or like the which is like my dream

trip yes to do that he does he tells me a story about fucking being in this hotel or he tells

tells on the podcast about being in this hotel in columbia and basically the the columbian president

or some president for some countries and is sitting right there just one election he's got

hookers all kinds of like it's a crazy story and i'm like dan's the kind of guy that dan's the

closest thing to like forcegump i've ever seen yeah it's just like when you watch the movie

there's all these like historical events and there's just danger dan in the back of the way how

are you always here you you just you fit it but he's that guy you know truly in a way one of the

most interesting people i think that exists in motorcycles right now yeah and a good friend

and he helped me start my podcast and i'm always forever grateful for him for that he uh i need to

i've listened to one of his episodes but i need to listen more because obviously anyone with

experience like that knows how to navigate around a conversation but only because he said it publicly

on our podcast um i'll mention a little but he was telling us a story about like he was in Mexico

or something and there was a section of the road where you had to ride on a train track through

a tunnel and there was someone trying to like stop him from going through and he thought they were

just trying to be dicks or like whatever and they might have been experimenting and weren't uh anyway

they go through and then they get out or the other end and like very soon after a train comes by

and they're all just like oh you know what happened and just thinking about that

whether something bad happened or almost happened or whatever like that's that memory that you're

you're able to look back on my buddies that i was with in in houston showed me a video

of this dude that was down in mexico is they got his helmet camera footage back got speed

wobbles on a road king death wobbles at like a hundred miles an hour he fucking totaled the bike

and he walked away from it and then he proceeded to tell us this story on how the police that

showed up police uh whatever um you know with rifles in the back of trucks and they're like

you crash you need to pay us so they paid up and then okay everything is all good but we got to

get this bike out of here so they paid another officer truck whatever to come and get the bike

and then the mexican police helped them find someone in town they checked out multiple small

towns who would actually buy that bike from them because it wasn't getting home and then so they

found someone who'd buy a bike and then the dude who crashed was on the back of his like brother's

bike or something and they went they're like we got to get back to the states bro you just crashed

your bike going a hundred miles an hour you should probably get some medical attention and and just

figure it out and meanwhile this whole time they were trying to just find a cheap bike in san diego

and they did and they went across the border of san diego bought some piece of shit road king

went back to mexico to meet up with their boys for the trip and it was just i i couldn't even

i'm watching that video of this guy going down from his point of view and i'm like

to it was just i was already mind blown by that and then to hear the rest of the story i'm like

bro you're never you're going to be telling that story on your deathbed yeah that is going to be

some dad lore that that our generation can actually show our grandkids whereas like my grandpa might

have told me something i'm like it's been a long time you sure about that yeah but yeah it's the

memories you know and being fortunate enough to be able to know how to document it and stuff like

that having it online like i don't think i'll be doing this forever career wise but i know that

when i'm older as long as we're not like plugged into some microchip vegetable like i can go look

back at these experiences and show my kids and yeah and uh it's just so damn cool yeah i think

about that a lot and uh it would be cool if i could literally just log into an app right now and see

my grandfather's experiences growing up yeah you know what i mean like that that would be really

i mean we have their method with photography and stuff like that but just if like in the 50s they

had go pros and shit yeah i mean i i uh my dad it's your boy yeah it's well did you see dom uh

dom's kamal do that that video where they pulled out the ovhs stuff yeah his dad was like the og

motovlogger and they had these cameras that were like shoulder camcorder size and shooting out of

vans and like showing that chopper scene of the you know when shovel heads with new bikes essentially

but any craze like you back to that conversation about people like oh old bikes are better but it's

like all these dudes were riding new bikes back then yeah it's like it's like if they were all on

roguelads right now oh damn you got a 75 oh you know in 74 damn you know next model i but back

then everyone had the mindset of uh making things last and repairing them and everything's

replace replace replace and um i was just gonna say my my dad is uh was a major influence in

why i got into cameras and i remember growing up as a kid he he was always like taking pictures

and i i didn't have any interest in photography until um like a couple years into college um

but my dad was all he was always posing pictures and whatnot but anyway he uh has

coda chrome slide film he's got an entire bookcase bigger than this of film

photography from prints negatives um that color positive negative color positive slides

all that from like when him and my mom were my age and younger and i get to look take a glimpse

into his life you know no one's around forever um like there's pictures of my grandpa there's pictures

of him like ice climbing and rock climbing and camping and that that's my version of you know

when i'm when i'm older i don't even think we'll have phones but give my grandkids check this out

you know and that's almost even a cooler experience looking at these prints that are

yeah you know it's tactile tactile yeah yeah it's a good one man josh you're doing it you're

living the dream thank you sir you gotta keep keep reminding yourself of that yeah yeah i'm doing my

best and uh one foot in front of the other it's an interesting time i would like to think i'm

excited for whatever's ahead and i appreciate the opportunity to share some thoughts and uh

sleep in your house it's a good time man i'm glad you came through i'm glad you thought about us

you know coming up here i wanted to spend some time and uh you know make this a part of that journey

so uh i'm honored for that and i'm glad when i asked you hey we got a lot going on this weekend

you want to say here a couple days yeah are you just trying to turn and burn like i'm i'll

hang her down let's go let's go you know so just in time for a lightning storm tomorrow

exactly yeah i think you'll be all right yeah if anything is proven texas doesn't know what

the fuck it's doing with weather yep and i don't know what i'm doing in general so yeah so it all

it all lines up good yeah so just wrapping it up you know i'm riding places youtube channel um

the instagram page same thing yeah like uh i guess go follow it yeah and uh my new website that

i'm working on there will be blogs so a place for me to share photography and some storytelling

written form i've always enjoyed riding i'm still working on some licenses and uh dealer accounts to

sell cameras like i said i will have some apparel uh you know it's not it's more of a project than

like a brand and an endeavor if you will but that's going to be uh cr38co.com cr38co.com

and that's just kind of where all my stuff is going to live so i'm going to probably launch

that a week or two after i get home and you know people are does that stand for something uh create

co like it's just like a play on number i i was like overthinking all this stuff and then

i saw something it just like popped into my head one day and i wrote it down like instead of analysis

paralysis trying to come up with some cool name i'm like that's good enough and it's dude there's

a part of me that really wants to kind of like rebrand all my shit yeah but it's like that no i

like fast life it works but like there's something like it'd be so dope just to have a brand called

like muster or some shit it makes no sense yeah you know a cool t-shirt you got you know

i don't know like i'm into that kind of goofy stuff you know what i mean yeah for sure like

it's like it's not taking things so seriously but it's like this is still cool i had a thing

back in the day and i mustered wasn't like the thing it was just like the first thing popped

my head but like you know yeah no i get you i was i was gonna mention a name for something i had

planned on making way way like high school days but i can't remember if i still pay for the domain

so i'm not gonna tell you never mind but yeah so that'll be that'll be a way that'll be where a

lot of my stuff will live videos and photos and apparel and old film cameras and stuff like that

until i maybe decide to go work the oil rigs or something i don't know come make my way back to

Texas or yeah you know you might all have to go out to the old field or something like you

keep making all these damn landman shows making that shit look cool as hell that's the only reason

i'm going to midland no i think was that midland well they filmed it all in Fort Worth but yeah

no just as worried man it's supposed to take place yeah it's based out okay you can go to the

patch cafe it's in Fort Worth though good enough for me yeah i don't think it's actually anything

though it's just like a set gotcha they're they're they're building a whole like film studio set in

Fort Worth Fort Worth in the next 10 years is about to be a big fucking thing gotcha personally i mean

as soon as you get the other side of Fort Worth the train opens up gets really nice so

i'm gonna open just while you're telling me to shout stuff out i think i made an instagram for that

yeah it's cr38.co i haven't done a single thing with it but and then to me i'm like

this many instagrams i'm gonna be managing a brand's instagram for you know some contract work

i'm like how many instagrams do you need but if you want to follow it check it out yeah well cool

thank you josh uh thank you do some rest man we're both i think we're all burned out devins over here

fade up you know they don't see how many monsters i've been drinking it just it's 10 p.m it's past

my bedtime i've told myself i'll be getting out early every day of this trip and it hasn't happened

once so maybe tomorrow's the day maybe yeah all right thanks josh thank you man i hope you guys

enjoyed it i really really enjoyed spending the weekend with josh uh we did this podcast on the

back end of his stay here with me in dallas and um had a great time with him and we had so many

deep conversations and uh he's somebody that after spending a couple days with him i was very

inspired to get after it on my own and get back to uh you know trying to produce his youtube videos

vlogs whatever you want to call him so yeah being around creatives man it just kind of like

it kind of rubs off on you you end up getting the creative bug you end up being motivated

inspired and you know that's kind of where i'm at right now off of this uh the stay that we had

together so hopefully you guys are following him and saw his journey he's uh on the new ones already

i think he's about to drop a youtube video on this trip in like while he was in dallas so if

you want to go check out all that stuff there's links to his youtube in the description below

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"I'm Riding Places" Josh Seiden #459

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