Integra Type S Review; Spray-on PPF?; Are Tire Changes a Bad Sign?
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NA engine
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Honda Integra
The Honda Integra is a small car that many people enjoy driving because it's sporty and reliable. It's a good choice for those who want a fun car that can also be practical.
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MPG
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miles per gallon
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PS4S
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light clutch
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front-wheel-drive
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horsepower
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dual overhead cam (DOHC)
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torque
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six-speed manual
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ADAS
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cylinder deactivation
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We like it very much
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From the land of fatty meat dreams
So that's what happened Zach said said he was having fatty meat dreams
I've just had a lot of weird nightmares last I don't have that very often really yeah
And I felt really really full after dinner even though we didn't get like hmm things that seemed heavy
Yeah, I don't know if there's a lot of hidden like delicious oil and what we had yeah
I hope it was amazing. I hope we don't find out that I can't eat there anymore
You just gotta ask what kind of oil everything's cooked in took Zach. I took Zach to my favorite restaurant and I will plug it
Yeah, I'll do homies spelled H. O. M. M. E. S. Like the French like home home homes
Yeah, homes with their website said homies. It's home. Yeah, it's home. It's it's pronounced homies. Yeah, but it's it's a fun
Actually, it's it would be a great username on the patreon
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Better make a res though. Otherwise you ain't getting in because they popular and only I know the password
Which doesn't doesn't exist yet doesn't exist. You're trying. I mean, I'm trying to make a password happen for locals. Mm-hmm
I hate that shit when you know when a point of a place is a little local place and it's popular
I don't hate it because of that you want these these folks to succeed sure, but you just god damn it now
I can't get a res to my favorite spot. You were a fan when they were in the garage. You were there
Just let me get like, you know fucking
If you keep going from you know years, I think they usually you know
That's how you end up with like the seat at the bar. Well, no for sure, but like this place has no
Phone booking system whatsoever. That's why there can't be a password
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As far as I know somebody somewhere. It's also a really small restaurant. There's like you work at Rezzy
It is very small
But if you work at Rezzy and you are aware of a backdoor way to have a locals password for like better
Rezzy's at those restaurants like let's fucking go. Yeah
I also don't want to skip you past other people because the optics would be bad
It's a very small restaurant and you know
Yeah, no, yeah, but but come on
Just across not just this restaurant across the board
respect the elders
Respect your your longtime customers
You know, they need a you need a punch card to show how long you've been going. That's what I'm saying. That's yeah
That's the local. That's the locals password. Yeah, but anyway
Fortunately Zach woke up from
Yeah, and and I rode a Vespa through the rain this morning
Because I had early I had a doctor's appointment in Beverly Hills and I checked to check in at 6 30 a.m
Which it was 48 degrees, which is like not objectively that cold
But when you're getting on a motorcycle getting out of bed and getting on a motorcycle that's cold. That's cold
Our bodies think that's cold. It's cold. Yeah, so I literally I wore long underwear
And it was all right and I was like, I hope they don't make me like running a treadmill for this test
I'll be very sweaty in this long underwear, but a little wet, but I have to give back the Vespa 310 today
I've had it the whole I've had the 310 for two months. You can buy one. Yes, definitely a hundred percent of my buying one
Fortunately, I think I'll be able to pay for more than
60% of it by selling the one I have oh
Nice, you know what I mean money and money I have has retained its value like super well
I could probably sell it on Instagram in a day. Yeah, you know
And I probably will to be honest with you because it's so if like if I never rode this new one though the 310
There would be absolutely nothing wrong with keeping mine forever sure. It's just that now
Right, that's the problem. That's how they get you had a little taste so I'll do
I'll do a review of the Vespa 310 in the next is that basically how dealership loaners work like your car broken and they go
Well, why are here take this new one around?
In theory. Yeah, which is great until the new one is the same one you've got but with a yes
Or if you bring in your alpha quad and they give you a Stelvio. Yeah, yeah, not the same. Yeah
Let's start the show with the week we had
With the Acura Integra type s
Not our first type s. We've this is the second second go round
With the type s and this car
What about what was I driving right before it?
Grant any else. Yeah, right the I think the in eos. Yeah
And also the in eos and then before that the Corvette e-ray and the GT3 RS
Which are you know both very?
Techy solutions. I mean the GT3 RS is an NA engine
but like with all the settings and all this arrow and shit and the the the Acura is
Just a
simple and
Well-executed car that like engages
Like basically everything that people who like cars ask for in a car is present in this car like good inputs
Lightweight responsive good shifter comfortable seats like an easy to use
Multimedia system not like too much like screens in your face
I mean there there are two screens, but the gauge cluster screen remains pretty much just a black digital
Screen I mean it was accurate as it weighs 3,000 pounds. Yeah, it does it feels like it feels like it doesn't weigh anything
And it's you know, it's a big comfortable car. Yeah
It is a big trunk with that with the hatchback in this one
I would love if they had an optional rear wiper in the rain a lot of in the rain a lot of a lot of rain's
Collects on to the rear windshield. Oh, yeah parked overnight nearly flat
And if you don't get up to highway speeds the air doesn't blow it off
So like I'd like a wiper
But but Hannah's like Matt like almost no sedans come with rear wipers. I was like that's true. It's absolutely correct. Yeah
and also
I really like the price
53 bucks 53,000 dollars as it sits which again not nothing but considering like how many different boxes this thing's checked and
how
Few affordable sports cars are left on the market
Like I drove this thing for five minutes. I was like, oh, yeah
I remember why this was that performance car of the year last year like this is great. It's such a good do everything car
It's a little was it $6,000 more than a Civic type R MSRP wise. Yeah, but I remember this was the stairs like Elio's or something
Yes, yes. Yeah, one of the best stereo stereo any price point in the last three years
Fantastic. Yeah, the stereo is really good and you get you the the lumbar support key makes a really big difference
The but from the Civic type R to this this rides a little better for every day. Yeah
I think this looks better than the Civic type R. It's just me not for everybody
I think they're both. I actually really like the front of the new Civic. I think they're both really good-looking, but I think
The lumbar and this is good, but the bolsters in the Civic type R are amazing
Like if you're gonna drive quick, this is a little bit
You know soft in how it holds you yeah, it's a little bit open
If I could combine the two or honestly just put like an air bladder or you know thing in the Civic type R seat
That would be one of the best seats ever, but you probably could do that. I mean I after my yeah
I wish it came with it. It should because it's a great seat. Yeah
But this is such a mustang do everything vehicle the Civic and Civic seats and the Mustang seats are two seats that are like
Really missing that adjustable lumbar and and if they could find an affordable way to do it
Those seats could be like perfect, but they're like sevens because of that
I'm sure you know these are supposed to be like a quote affordable cars
So they got a caught cut literal pennies wherever they can but like that's that shit bumps me out
but
For go, you know go anywhere do anything
Picking activity. There's nothing that the Integra is bad at I
Think it was the MPG though. That's the only thing that in a car that is like
Refined and and seems so well suited for like road trip stuff that I remember when I drove the Civic type R to
San Luis Obispo and back. I was like whoa. I'm getting like 22 miles per gallon
Yeah, it's not very efficient on the highway, and it also has a pretty small tank
So so your your cruising range is not as much as you would think considering how big the car
I mean advertised 28 highway, which is good that so if you can if you can achieve that but is that for this or for the
That's for this. I also wouldn't be shocked if I were to learn and I have no
I don't know the numbers on this if the Civic because of that wing
Gets worse highway fuel economy than this car does. Yeah, that's a great point
This may be more aerodynamic for highway and the Civic may be more suitable for handling it and have all a bit of a
Higher limit and that wing might make some drag
That's a good call because a car and driver achieve 31 miles per gallon at 75 miles per hour
So they're in the Integra. Oh, so they actually go, you know advertised. So there you go
That means the strong car may if you were driving a press car in Southern, California
Which I imagine you were it may have had fucking cup twos on it
Oh, yeah, which this has this has ps4 s's which there's probably a
Milo two per gallon in that in that tire. That's a sticky tire. It's a good point
Yeah, so the combination of sticky tire wing, you know probably means this is a better highway car than the
Which I buy that if I had like a long like even though
It's a stick like it's the clutch is so light and the shifter is so easy that I wasn't like tired of driving it
In traffic or anything. Yeah, and then you can go right at the track. I mean, this is such a good do everything
It's a rare thing these days and the only my only criticism out of the track because and I've got a lot of track time in this thing
is
Is if you're an advanced driver
It's a great beginner intermediate car
And if you're an advanced driver you can have fun in it
But you're gonna you're gonna get to the limit of the car in your first couple sessions if you're an advanced driver
You know and and it won't it probably won't challenge you
Like you can find other challenges in driving but like the car
You know even if you go full-off
It's still such a manageable thing that if you're an advanced driver you go, okay
I get this after like a couple sessions and you won't be like I'm gonna take this to the track every weekend
You know but and then you get throw mods at it
But then would you change the character that's like down the rabbit hole and you know
And you you still got a front-wheel-drive car like there's making it go fast
There's a reason that like no front-wheel-drive cars have more than like
325 350 horsepower. It just stops being useful
When you guys are adding flings
Yeah, but like it's just such diminishing return you start throwing all this money at stuff
Yeah, you know I would I'd leave this alone. Wouldn't you?
Yeah, unless they're if the warranty expired and I still had it and there was like downpipe tuned that would get me another
60 reliable horsepower. I would do that sure just to like just to have it
You know rejuvenate my interest in the in the acceleration
Yeah, I have it, but otherwise I wouldn't touch anything at all. Yeah, this is uh, I don't know Japan's m3 kind of
It's a it's I I think it's the nicest driving front-wheel-drive car. I've ever driven. I
Mean if all things considered like maybe I'd have to drive go drive it again
But like maybe my r53 John Cooper works mini that was my previous and the fiesta ST
But the fiesta ST is so small. It's very well the mini also. Yeah, I think the mini is more exciting
Yeah, I think this is nicer if that's the word we're going for is definitely this yeah more well-rounded
I mean, I think it'd be this versus
Like I'm on a mark 7 GTI like that would be maybe yeah compare it to
For a minute best handling front-wheel-drive car ever was the Acura CL type s remember that yeah
I wanted one of those bad to know five. They were the shit. Yeah the six speed and that blue
Those were fun. Those were the fucking jam the second gen CL you couldn't get them. I
tried to get one and
I literally could not get one and that's how I ended up buying the Audi s4
Because I could get an s4 and I couldn't get a fucking Acura the couple times
I've tried to buy Honda products. I couldn't get them in high school. I had the money for a prelude
That was my first choice. Yeah, couldn't get it six month wait to get a prelude
But the Subaru legacy GT was on the lot and so I got that man. Yeah bummer
I mean, that's just good-looking cars could have been a Honda guy this whole time
It was to I was a year early on the Civic si's
The Civic si didn't come out until a year later. So I couldn't have got one of them
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Do these were I and I drove one these were the shit
They drove great. I think they brought one. I think Acura when they did when they launched the new
TLX yeah, they did a big drive at Angel's Crest
Uh-huh when they did the generations thing so they had the Integra type R which was amazing
Yeah, and then they had one of these yeah, and it was like why is this so comfortable?
But also handles pretty well and scroll down these were these were great the more photos
Did they say though does it say with the skid pad number on there on the car and driver test results? Does it have it?
Quarter 14-7 in the quarter it doesn't have handling now in the full test they had handling
But this thing was a dual overhead cam v6
260 horsepower 232 pound-feet of torque and it weighed
30 high 3400s
Then kind of stood things scooted
six-speed manual
You get 28 29 miles a gallon the highway with this thing and the interior the interior layout the seats and the dash and shit
Of these were dope. They looked great 260 horsepower in
2003 was a bunch you're you're getting close to like
STI Evo horsepower and those at the time were like oh my god
This is the fastest sitting in the world. Well, this was a v6. This was this would have been smooth
Yeah, this is I mean this is the the the accurate 3.2 was an awesome awesome engine
They put it they put that shit at everything Frank's red hot of v6 engines
Yeah, I love those but but dude I am I am absolutely shocked
I don't see more integrity type s's on the street
They people need to be buying these things there. They're these are fabulous cars
My only gripe with it and I have not gotten I have not asked Andrew about it
Is if I don't remember the last the last one we drove was a 24, right?
2024 yeah, okay, probably this is a 2026
The only difference I can tell is that the ADAS
Comes back on every restart in this car and that is a new be a new
Because it definitely did not do that in the previous generations of cars
Definitely is a hard word, but like I
Never experienced any kind of ADAS interventions in those cars
Once I turned it off one time. I'm trying to find it
You know a news on whether it was updated or changed
Yeah, this this particular car which I got with the car with less than 500 miles on the odometer is a
2026 model your car every restart the ADAS comes back on and it's not that's not like so like
If you're shopping for one of these if you could find yourself a leftover 25
I might I might strongly consider that versus the 26. I wonder because what else did they change?
Do you know nothing as far as I know?
Is this color new? I don't know if I'd seen this silver before so that might be a new color
But like that's that's a new color is minor fact of tweaks and some tech updates
Tech updates. That's what that's what that means. Yeah, tech update buried in tech updates
Is ADAS that comes on every fucking time you restart this car infotainment upgrade?
It seems like according to road and tractor like they didn't nothing about the car fundamentally changed
Like they didn't get new dampers or a whole right drives exactly the same as the last one and you know, whatever all tweaks
Yeah, but this is one of them. So
That's a that's a bummer. You hate to see it. The ADAS is coming for us dude
You hate to see it 2026 all these like fucking all these guys
You know, it'd be great for the world
What if
Dictator Farah, what if when I run for president? What if you could convince all these fucking
Coal-Roll and diesel tuners to instead
Pivot their businesses
To to ADAS to remove ADAS defeat tunes
I think that that would bring so much more liability to them. No, dude
You would own let think about it. You'd own the libs so hard
There's safety nanny bullshit. You'd own them by defeating it, right?
But I think if I was one of those companies what I'm doing is I'm going from making a product that the EPA might get mad at
Three years later and which they did and like sue me for
Versus if I turn off a bunch of people's ADAS and then they crash and then all of them sue me for causing their accidents
I feel like I'm opening myself up. They but they but they asked you to turn off their ADAS. Sure
Lawyers they signed it. They signed a thing saying I want you to turn off my ADAS because it stinks
That's valid. I
I appreciate your ability to try to weaponize this group that was doing one illegal thing to a new
Well, they're obviously perfectly happy to be
So fuck shit up right that right and obviously the main goal of those businesses is to own the libs
It's not to make horsepower, right? Gail Banks told us that right? So if we're not making horsepower
We're just owning the libs. So like here's a new way you can own the libs. I
Wish I knew more I know because some people when we asked for advice on towing rigs
A lot of folks were saying to turn off things like cylinder deactivation or some of these diesel functions because they hurt the life of the engine
Excuse me
But then other you know other companies are out there just like trying to make power blow smoke and be assholes. Yeah
I've heard the cylinder deactivation can hurt the life of the engine argument before
Okay
But that's like
That's like long distance kind of that's like folks who are towing, you know 600 that they're those are like pros
I don't know. Maybe I don't know how early it was hurting
You know like the LS engines were doing it and they had a big problem the GM had a big recall
But I don't know if it was affecting them beyond 100,000 miles or if it was above 40,000 miles or what?
I mean anything like that's gonna take time to take an effect. It's not gonna be like your truck has
5,000 miles on it you you turn that system off and also just yeah
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The Lexus gx 550 which is a thing. I'm not in love with I have no emotional attachment to it
Contown 9,000 pounds and has and has adjustable
Self-leveling air suspension
Did you know that no, but I do know we definitely want self-leveling suspension
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no all three of our choices do have it, but like it's it sort of splits
The difference it's like
75 grand 80 grand it's a lot of money, but it's a lot cheaper than a cayenne
Wow, and it's like
The is that unlike those are the wheels
Those look like fucking
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That is the pimp my ride is
Looks like if you had a time machine and you want to make a lot of money the hard way you could just bring modern wheels back to
2000 yeah, yeah
That's crazy that one. So two of the trims the the look there's like the
The base trim and then there's the luxury trim the premium which is base and then luxury and then the over trail
The luxury can tow 7800 pounds the other two trims
Towed 9,000. Yeah, 9,000. So the over trail and the is more expensive than the premium
but like
That's panel likes boxy shit true. You know, it starts eight grand more. Yeah
You get a whole bunch of off-roading shit. I will not use right
Yeah, maybe we save the money and go premium, but that's actually a pretty pretty good option
I mean it looks cool. I don't hate it. What engines this thing. This is the twin turbo six
Oh, okay. Yeah, but it's got enough power and it has the self-leveling suspension
It has some knobs for things
It is it is a fundamentally a very nice vehicle although when I drove it, you know on the the highway
We had the over trail mm-hmm, and I didn't love how it rode
It rode real truckie. Yeah, you know, it's a body on frame and it rode like it. Yeah, that's why I can tell so much
Yeah, maybe if we try the premium on more like roady tires instead of off-roading tires and not also off-roading
Suspension set up. Maybe that will make a difference. That's the seats look nice. The seats are comfy. Yeah, no
So it's not it's not something. I'm passionate about but it does check check all the boxes
No, it's passionate about a Lexus really. No, I would rather own the Cayenne hybrid. Yeah, but it's just a lot more expensive
Or I have to get a get a used one with 25 or 30,000 miles on it
Whereas look this dude's this photo is towing a fucking boat
Not much squat in the back there
Okay, so, you know
It's a pretty that's a pretty tough. Yeah, that's a strong towing capability. Yeah. Yeah, it was more
I was very surprised when I saw that number, which so that's all right. Okay, so that's okay
That's our leaderboard you and your dad can have his and his Lexus's Lexi. Oh
With his T with his yeah, I wonder what that can tow
Probably not the probably not much at all. That's just I don't think that's set up for the TX
five
500 H
5,000 pounds. Oh, okay. Okay, not bad
I mean for like you could tell a little boat little side-by-side a little a little something which is probably all you that car is more like
You know, it's it's it's more of a luxury car than a utility car. It's more just like a tall luxury car
It's got captains chairs and shit. Yeah, yeah
So
Yeah, I wanted
We got a few I got a few different
Interesting emails few different different opinions about the AI and YouTube discussions with Johnny
a couple people called me an idiot for saying that
Where I like to say I said YouTube was in the toilet and they wanted to correct me that YouTube is actually making record amounts of money
Well, yeah
Which is not what I was trying to say about YouTube
Absolutely not what I was saying at all about YouTube
And someone else, you know had a good had a good
Point that I that I didn't get around to mentioning and they were like they're like about AI
you know
About my AI skepticism and they said, you know one one one way that that AI another way that AI is a theft
Is like think about recipe websites like think about as someone who starts a website
That's based on advertising like all other websites and they put time and energy into
Doing recipes sure and like they make the food. They take the photos. They write the thing
They have to write all those
To get people to find it and all that work they put in just for
Whatever pick your LLM to scrape the data
Put it in a search result and now the person who did it. They don't even get all they wanted was a click
Yeah, that's all they wanted was a fucking click and now and and maybe if the if you like how it was presented a
Follow or a bookmark or whatever like, you know, or you take a peek in an ad don't even click at it
Just just have it up here on your screen briefly like the standards of what people want from a viewer on a website are so low
Take a look use the thing the knowledge I have here
that
The LLMs just scrape it right off of that. Yeah, and and effectively
Just bypass that that these these small
Overwhelmingly pretty small businesses or media maybe medium-sized businesses or even a large business a big media company like fucking Hearst or something
you know
Put into creating that content. It's it's gone
It's just they don't get just the basic thing that they want which is to just the click right?
Yeah, now if you search like you know best brisket recipe it goes here you go
Like here's the top-rated one online sure but but doesn't give the click to the person who made the recipe
Yeah, yeah, or you know if you were from in in our business
What were the what were the lap times from performance car of the year?
2025 oh sure, you know what I mean like you if you search for that you'd get the story
You'd click on the story. I hope well, but nowadays with like now you get a summary of Google AI summary
and now you won't click anymore and
So the the the the company that's spent
Who knows a hundred grand whatever whatever it whatever it cost
So you would have to click so we just searched it and yeah
The summary is very small. So you'd have to click road and tracks link
Just try just try performance car of the year instead of the acronym
Oh
Nice nice the AI so my example doesn't work
I'm sorry that my example doesn't work the AI summary sucks and you do have to or road and track has a good interest
Yeah, but or if you uh, if you use chat GPT or if you use a different LLM
Maybe you'll get a different answer. I don't exactly know. I'm sorry that my real-time test didn't quite work
But with recipes it absolutely fucking does
And then there's probably a lot of other examples and and there's examples of
AI
That helps
Medicine sure sir, you know
You see you saw the oh we I sent you the video, but other people had as well, which was like oh the Star Wars thing
So I was a cure cancer, right?
And it just stares and then it just cuts back now the poor man with like huge AI boobs
It's very and it is the perfect summary of what AI is doing. It's like hey, we need all these resources
Oh to help us. No, yeah, everything patrol everybody and that's about it. Yeah, yeah
We'll give them a little give them a little taste. We'll make porn really realistic and
Will you won't have to dig through the actual search results and Google to find stuff?
We'll just summarize it at the top. Will it be right? Not really fucking sure. Will you double-check?
Absolutely not. Yeah, it's it is powerful for some things
But I mean if you want a recipe just search online and then you can see the pictures and you can see what people are saying about it
That's what you don't get with you know chatty bt food. It's just gonna say trust me. This is the best one a couple of people
Told me that I was an idiot for saying YouTube was in the toilet and then used examples
Of people who were doing very well on YouTube examples like Jake and Logan Paul who are perhaps the worst humans ever
Yeah, a couple people said I don't know anything about YouTube
I don't know if I we're making the wrong videos if we were you don't get to complain about
Your revenue and your traffic being down if you don't if you're not willing to do the things that get good traffic and I say
That's the point. We know what gets good traffic and it's cringy as fuck
We were told by fucking Kevin what gets good traffic and that's not good for the fucking world
Yeah, I think what was great about YouTube and and still is to some degree is you can make whatever kind of content you want
Right and also I'll say this like make the art you want to make the audience will find you
Yeah, there's someone else other that has a similar brain, but what's tough about that is the black box in between
Sure your audience finding you yeah because the algorithm and look there is content that will attract eyeballs because it
Knows how to game like our lizard brain and show you lots of colors lots of cuts all these things and it might not be as
Informative as video a over here, but your brain is gonna be drawn to it and YouTube's gonna feed that to you
And you're no longer allowed to leverage your other media
Spaces to promote this thing. Oh the link so if you if you make a YouTube video and
You try to go to your Instagram audience and say I've made a YouTube video. You should check it out that post gets fucking
Pushed down because none of the platforms want you to leave the platform
So you have to either like imply
Somehow that you've made a YouTube video and these people should check it out
Or you have to make a completely separate piece of content for Instagram
Which you won't necessarily get paid for
And and and then those people will won't go watch the thing that you're trying to make money from anyway
Like it's just like not a good system
For years when you tell people build up your social media audiences and you can use that to promote the thing that actually makes you
Money except now they've just cut all that off and
They go no no no no no now you have to create
Individual pieces of content for all of this different shit because we're not gonna let you cross promote anymore
So like that's why I think it's shitty. Yeah, because like
Now you know because
You know, it's not shitty if you call yourself like a creator and you're just like an ambiguous
Content creator and you're willing to make videos about whatever or you're just vlogging or you're doing skits or you're doing
Pranks or you're doing whatever you're just like a
For lack of a better word like a fucking Jake Paul or Logan Paul like other than
Jake Paul is like a boxer now, right?
But like I don't know what the other guys fucking with what they do like what's in their videos like and okay
I'm in like an old guy, but like it's not like I you can go like well
What are his videos about like kind of like everything and nothing, right?
It's like a vlogger glorified, right? Like that's I guess I haven't paid attention since he did went to this forest
Which I should mark is YouTube's gonna flag me for saying a word. Yeah, okay. Well
but I mean point being like if you're if you're a
An automotive journalist or a certain type of journalist and not just sort of an ambiguous creator personality
Then it makes it much harder for you to
Spread your work in that way because you have to somehow you're not you can't now use the traditional
Methods of telling people that you have a new thing you have to like grab them from within
YouTube's own ecosystem using the same exact method that like people that'll just fucking do whatever to get a view are using I
think it's a bunch of things because
humans get bored
Like the most successful TV shows ever, you know after season four you'll see some people going I like the first season's better
It's like well because it was new and exciting stranger things with great example
I mean a lot of times only yeah, it's like a band's first album
You get for your first album
They have their whole life to write and then they got to write the next one every year
And I spent ten years writing first season. Yeah, but I think you know we get the humans ability to get used to things
It's like unparalleled so that that's part of it, but also there's just way more competition because
Okay, sure people might say that our videos are not keeping up with the Joneses
But I would say there's a lot of new automotive creators that do amazing work throttle house and their views also got cut
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so that I think is a good example of it's not just us
It's everybody is competing, you know, and it's dark content creators
Yeah, and all these audiences like I don't get bored or move on or just get distracted by a new shiny thing that YouTube wants to promote
And in my experience they they know because they have all the data
How hard they can squeeze an older content creator who's been committed for a long time and they know how?
They need to get a new content creator hooked with good numbers and good revenue in the beginning so that they go
Yes, this is my career
They know if you've been invested for 10 or 15 years putting out videos
You're probably not just gonna cut bait. You're probably gonna keep making videos
Even if they give you less than you used to then they used to
You're in you've been yeah, I don't know if our CPM is different than a new creators like if we it's not necessarily CPM
It's could be visibility
There's like four things that need to be multiplied together to end up with some dollars at the end
Yeah, they can pull the strings on three of them. Yeah, that's true
You know
So and they're not gonna tell us which ones they are and and and I'm not I'm not necessarily like boo-hooing
There's no like constitutional right to make YouTube videos. There's no
Universal basic income of YouTube videos like all I'm saying is like why I think it's shitty now
like and like
But you're making them on YouTube like yeah, because where else would you do this?
Like it was great in the in the beginning like so many things on the internet
It did open the door. Yes, but like like so many things like fucking stranger things
You
Changes it turned shitty because people fucking
You know get greedy or move the thing or you're trying to achieve different goals that are the goal
For us is find allowing the people do want to find us to find us in a fucking straightforward way
And the black box is like making that much harder. That's true
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I can just pull that off. So I had to I had to order order up a new one
And I ordered a backup it went up by $20 the last five years. That's pretty good. Yeah
Wow was $159 and $179 now. I'm shocked at the size of the inflation. That's great
How little it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I got a new glow-in-the-dark carbon fiber wedding ring on the way
But I feel kind of naked without it. You know what I mean?
Front-wheel drive NSX says what would it take to get carb to be more open-minded towards car culture?
I feel like policing a minority of the population when bunker oil exists is a waste. I
mean, I
I'm kind of with you
You know to say why are why I don't like when when we say why are we looking at this and not looking at this because
The problem with bunker oil is like it's like international waters
Like it's it's that kind of thing like most most ships aren't allowed to burn bunker oil in like Los Angeles for instance
they have to
Like they have to either have a dual power a dual power mode and burn like hydrogen or
Natural gas or some other kind of non bunker oil thing when they're within a certain distance of the city
But like yeah, I don't know what international law can do or plans to do to curb fucking bunker oil
I totally agree with you that like I mean it seemed like maybe with the quote Leno's law
there was like on the way to a
little bit of sanity but like
Carb's perspective is probably like well, why
Should we give you an exemption so you can just like have fun in a car? Well, and they're probably going
You know why in their eyes
They're they don't want to sacrifice the health of the majority for the enjoyment of the minority. Yeah, yeah
I mean, that's probably fundamentally it. Yeah, they show favoritism towards the kind of people that have
the disposable enough income to buy, you know extra non-carb compliant cars like
I don't think carb really gives a fuck about
Making it easier to drive 20 to 30 year old cars that were like those transitional emissions type cars like 80s like like
My coontosh, which will has never and will never pass smog
I
Think I do believe there should be
Either based on mileage or or whatever exemptions for
vehicles of like cultural and historic interests like I
I'm okay getting historic tags or whatever and applying and having an extra hurdle
So you could have that car registered in California and it won't pass smog
But you're only driving it a certain amount and whatever
But I think what just happened this week is an example of you know the slippery slope
It was like oh the EPA is no longer going to regulate some of the emissions from cars
Yeah, it was like and also factories and all those things so people you know if you're a politician and you get carb to agree to like
Just give permission to like a certain group of cars
Well, then your next opponent can go. Oh, I thought you're about cleaning up the air you said that you were except for this one little thing
I mean, it's just the domino effect is terrible. Yeah
Yeah, it's it's the kind of thing where when you're a gearhead you go
Why don't they do this and then when you're like the politician you go well?
Come on asshole. Yeah, of course. It's like
You know flip side of
California, you know, you got a you got to make it work. Yeah, but lots of people do
I mean like lots of people do like you can you can you can letter of the law it you can get creative a little bit
You know, I prefer you didn't go Montana, but you know
There's there's room for a little bit of creativity and you can own a lot of really fast stuff that is within the emissions regulations
Yeah, like it's not like we are devoid of horsepower here. Yeah now
The modification thing is very difficult, but again like you can get a lot of horsepower
Probably more than most people need off the dealer a lot. Yeah, there's so yeah, there's if you're talking about modern cars
There's not a lot of reason to add horsepower to most modern cars. Yeah
Triple a is on the way. Are there any rear-wheel drive sedans with a Miata ethos or are they all heavy pigs?
respectively a
Miata ethos, I mean that's tough because like if you want a sedan like
You just like
Nobody wants them like the minimalist
non-insulated
You know like like sit sedan like people want a certain amount of baseline
refinement
When you're buying a four-door car, right?
Because the goal the Miata's goal is to be enjoyable to drive
Spiritedly. Yeah, so they can aim everything at that
But a sedan you're like the goal is to carry four to five people in comfort probably across a pretty significant distance
Yeah, and when you're talking about like a rear-drive sedan
Most companies that are that are bothering to make rear-wheel drive sedans in the last 15 or 20 years
Are doing it for sort of like high performance reasons, but they're also
luxury cars. Yep, and so you just
People that want a high performance sedan don't typically want
To hear the gravel through the footwells or to hear wind noise or the kind of things that are like
Part of a Miata charm. I think this is what we had a lot. We had a lot of options in the 90s
I mean, you know, chemises got that famous post of like 33 sports cars that were available a lot of 2 plus 2s
And now we now I think you have to go hot hatch if you want a four-door car in the spirit of the Miata
Front-wheel-drive hatches is your that's your market
Is about as close as you're gonna find
or you go
GR Corolla or
Focus RS or fiesta ST back in the day or GTI like it's light
It's aimed at the young person who wants to have fun driving
But just the I think the packaging the cost and all that stuff of a real-drive car. They always go up market
The closest I could think of in a modern car would be that Julia T
Mm-hmm, you know four-cylinder. I heard those were fun. They're not bad. Yeah, they're they're all right
I mean, that's that's about as close as I think you'll get in a modern car. Yeah
Yeah
Speaking of triple-a so this weekend
I went and sold a firearm to a gentleman legally for anybody listening
Guys a tow truck driver and he comes outside with me afterwards and he sees my car and he goes
He's like, oh nice BMW. He goes I tow a lot of these
I start laughing and he told me a story. I'll tell it very quickly. He's like, yeah, just this guy the other night
His brakes stop working. He's like he was driving engine made a huge sound
Brakes stop working and he had to slam it into the barrier to stop
Oh, wow, and I was like why didn't he pull the e-brake and the guy goes he didn't have one
It was like a project car with no back seats roll bar like this guy had built a race car
So if you build a race car that you drive on the street keep your e-brake fucking handbrake
Yeah, it sucks
Yama Habibi have you been to Mount Panorama? I have not no that would be cool. Yeah
Sterling likes to go fast. My parents want to buy a certified pre-owned
Lexus LC 500
Certified but a red flag that stuck out is that according to the car facts
It's had two alignments and five sets of tires in
45,000 miles is that anything to be concerned about I asked the dealer and they said it's normal
Two alignments and five sets of tires in five years and 45,000 miles
Look, I don't think that's that abnormal. I mean, I think maybe they're going through tires quick, but like
You know, if you've got that's a set of tires every 9,000 miles. Yeah, I mean look
Maybe that person drives spiritedly. I mean if the first person
You know if the first owner
lived somewhere that's
On a beautiful windy road as a great has a great commute and fucking let's it rip
Daily. Yeah, you could blow off a set of Michelin's in 9,000 miles. Absolutely
I think it depends it depends on where this person lives like if they live in Florida where they just drive straight all the time
Then I'd be worried that
Like your friends Rivian where there's there was a hardware problem on the suspension
It couldn't get aligned correctly and we just eating tires
Yeah, but if that's not the case and this person lives near I don't tail the dragon or somewhere twisty
Yeah, and if the owners like in their 30s or something then maybe that's why they're going through tires
Or like 45,000 miles in five years look a good amount of miles
Like there's a decent there's a decent chance that this is this person's only car true
Summers and winters. Do we know what kind of tires they're going on if this person went bought the car?
Like let's say they bought the car mid winter with summers. They would have had
You know a tire change every six, you know, they might have they might have gone summers and winters
And if you're going back and forth between summers and winters, you may want to get an alignment
Oh reddit reddit said so I found a post that says I drove 10,000 miles and the LC already needs new front tires
And people are saying welcome to the LC club. Okay, the front ends heavy and it's got soft tires
You know from stock so that everyone's like that seems about right. There you go. So so then I think that is a
That's pretty standard the car is just gonna go through tires
Good to know. Yeah. Yeah, good to know and it doesn't it does make sense
Although I'm you with ps4 s's if you're not pushing it if you're just driving around on them
They last a long time longer you should get 20 out of a set that you're not pushing if you are if you're pushing it
Yeah, if you're having fun
Okay
Um
Pain in the adas says what would be your ideal rental car if you could only rent one
Car model for all future trips regardless of location. Oh my god. This is the easiest question. I'll ever answer
Oh, you're gonna say portion 11 rental car dude rental car. Yeah, you can rent those minivan
Chrysler Pacifica
I've never been in a situation with a rental car where I had a minivan and wish I didn't
I
It's a rental car. I'm not taking some I'm not taking some I'm not like not madman all of a sudden
If I want to take a fun trip, I don't not get in a rental car rental cars or utilities for me. Okay, that's a good point
I think I would go with like a Jeep Grand Cherokee or no, it's heavy time. Are you fucking kidding me?
I want to remember that Grand Cherokee. That's why I switch to Chevy top. Well, that one had the 4xd engine
I was that was heinous. So I'll go Chevy Tahoe. Mm-hmm. I
Told us ground clearance a little more do do everything but minivan
It was an excellent choice. Yeah, if it was good enough for biggie
It's good enough for her. I don't know
federal government
Do you all blow me?
How funny is it that there are two C level automotive personalities both named Alex both of whom own Morgan three-wheelers
Both bald and whose last name is rhyme and only differ by one letter. That's funny as hell. It is very true
Yeah, it is very nice people. Yeah, Alex Goy and Alex Roy shout out to him
Only one of them is a is a slang for a Christians done by Jews though, right? That's true
fast and curious
I'm going to the ice race any events to attend while there attend the ice race the ice race is the event
Fuck else you think is going on in Montana. This is it. Everyone's going for that and you go skiing. No, dude. Honestly
We have no idea what's going on very scheduled
They have given us and I'm I granted like I'm a driver. Yeah, like Zach has a regular media pass
Oh, you've media pass media pass
But like I haven't I'm a driver Ali is a driver like we know nothing
So I have no idea what's going on
I'm going two days early to go skiing because why the fuck not
while you're in there and
beyond that
We have rented a suburban and a
Quote mid-size all-wheel drive SUV notice we didn't rent a minivan
We didn't know we didn't you know how much they cost for this week
Dude that I looked to get a fucking Pacifica for this trip. It would have been like two G's
It was like 4x the cost of of a five-passenger SUV
She's a suburban and a minivan were like suburban was like three G's all
Suburbance that was so funny about I told you about the suburban to the Yellowstone Club, right?
That's just all there is because it's all there is Chevy dealership down the street. Correct
There's no there are no other dealers
There and so all these fucking billionaires and also once you're in the Yellowstone Club nobody shows off anymore
There's no like nice watches or nice clothes or any that shit
Because you're there like who are you showing off to so like everybody just rolls the same like silver black or white suburban
I'm just like that one. Yeah, you know and so but same with the rentals. It's there's that's all there is but there's
Queershifting gears why does Ford suck at colors? I just saw molten magenta in person
And it looks gorgeous reminds me of a more metallic Ruby star
But photos online took a photo and it looks red photos online and look red pull it up
Can we get a photo of it? So Ford I have a theory about Ford's colors. Oh
This color. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so this is very much like a for a frozen berry. Yeah, or a casis red
Yeah, you need the right light. It's all about the light
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a little bit deeper than casis red. It's really nice
I haven't I think it's very cool
But I just meant it's in terms of it's not it doesn't look like a cease-read but it in terms of how light affects it
It's different angles look different. I'm just look at this pictures front three-quarter people listening if
The part that's in shade looks purple
Mm-hmm and the part that's lit up looks like Mazda red with a dash of purple in it
Yeah, slightly more purpley Mazda red. So yeah, it transforms a lot depending on how the lights hitting it
I really like this color Ford for so my theory on Ford colors is
Every year they offer one color
That costs way more than they sell it for and I've usually in the past when I've bought Ford's
Have usually bought that color. It was the original orange on the Raptor the nitrous blue on the Focus RS
The what the whatever the fuck the silver was on my Mach-E was amazing that I think the liquid silver was awesome
This is definitely one of those colors
They had a green on the updated Mach-E. That was amazing
Deep British green and they used it on the Bronco. It's called like explosion green. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, so every year they've got one color that's got a ton of depth and a ton of richness and a ton of
Fucking sheen and you go there's no way that they that they can get six hundred dollars
You know and they're losing money on this and then all the other colors are flat and terrible
Yeah, this person this person said they suck at colors
I don't think they do and if your phone took a photo and it looked red
I mean right here where it's in full Sun. It's it just looks like a flat red
Yeah, I think your phone's ability to capture
You know
Like my car when I look at my car when the Sun is on it on the mountain
Like I see some of the depth and some of the sparkle in the green and when I pull my phone up and take a picture
It looks black. It looks black. Right. Yeah, so some of that's the phone's ability
I mean I can put two car two pictures of Mike my Porsche side-by-side and it will look like it's not even the same car
Casice red. I mean I very famously saw the photo on Craig's list of the car and I went
Ew, I'm repainting that and then I walked up to it and went this isn't actually the car
I've just wired you money for and they're like, yes, it is
But this one's pretty
I thought I was buying an ugly one. This is this is pretty. That's the color. Yeah, like so shit
I
Blow horns
Why do so many of the new boutique hypercar companies insist on using single clutch automatic transmissions?
There's a consensus
That they're the worst type of auto to develop the worst of auto yet almost all of them insist on using them easy
They're the only gearboxes that can really hold that kind of power reliably and the people buying these cars by in large
Don't want to drive stick. Yeah
Either they don't know how or they don't want to yeah when we were with
SSC they were like, I mean there are things making what 850 pound feet of torque like some ungodly number
It's making 1200 power. I think it's the SSC. Yeah, I think it's more than that
So basically I think it was like 1700 horsepower and like 1200 torque or something
You said there was no dual clutch that they could buy that could hold over 800 pound feet of torque
Companies are working on it, of course and maybe bodies got one and that's it. They've got theirs and it's theirs
Yeah, but I think that's why zinger has solved this problem the solution
It doesn't have to be go dual clutch zinger solve the problem by putting a motor generator flywheel paired with a single clutch
Gearbox the same single clutch gearbox these guys using and it feels a dual clutch. Yep. They just solved it. Yeah that way
So very creative for them. Yeah
I
Would love to know the take rate on the manual Pagani utopia versus the paddle shift one
I doubt they would tell me but I could ask
LL Cartier we said last week that Ferrari has decided aesthetic carbon fiber is played out
Well, Johnny. I've said that I don't know if Ferrari said that I
Thought this will last five years
I think having carbon fiber carbon fiber accents is trashier than having camo accents is that well?
I wouldn't go that far. Yeah, they're both nothing is trashier than camo
You're not hiding the vehicle
No, I look I
There is a way to use
Naked carbon fiber in a way that looks cool. Mm-hmm, but they don't always do that sometimes it can look plasticky
Sometimes they overdo it sometimes if you've got
Like for instance if you have like a bright colored
Porsche spider RS that has all the carbon like shit on it
It looks it's kind of a mess where if you get that stuff just body color painted
It looks beautiful Corvettes the e-ray that I drove
On the road trip recently with all the body color painted stuff. That's fabulous. It looks great. So like selective application
You know and I think over I think two things like overdoing the interior kind of turned me off a lot when it's like the vents and everything
Are have some carbon on it just too much and then it's so expensive when the cost of carbon came down a lot
With this stuff used to be
prohibitively expensive hard to get now on ebay you can get a carbon anything for any car
So you go oh well the market saturated and it's no longer special. So what can Ferrari do to differentiate themselves from?
John with a 2015 Civic that has full carbon on the inside is like they go away from it and then they do something else
Yeah, I mean I think it's very smart of Ferrari to go look we're gonna put
10 kilograms of luxury back into the interior
We'll find it somewhere else. We'll take it out somewhere else
I think that's wise at at this point because like
The ones we drive when it's like interior carbon kit, you know saves
You know an ounce and it's
$12,000 and you're like what you know what I liked it in
the
The the 458 we borrowed from what's her face? Oh from Gunther work like the
Gear selector like knob that's stuck out of the center was a cool looking piece of carbon fiber
We've one piece molded
But then if like that I thought was rat
But if you cover the little vents and all those controls and like little buttons and carbon it just looks tacky a little bit
Yeah, yeah selective
There's speed holes clap men says I know
Unshit boxing is a crazy task, but I have an 06
WRX wagon sure I'm planning to do some work, too
I can't find anything better in that rally wagon formula
I know sound deadening a radio with carplay and seats, but what else would you consider or men recommend doing?
It's not a daily
Anytime I see an o6 wagon. I still want one. I just think they look rad
Well, I'm a fan on so like it. What do you recommend doing is a is a is a weird question
Because I wouldn't recommend doing any of this, okay
But like that's just me I
Get where you're coming from in terms of how they look like yeah, they look they look nice
But like I
Mean
I'm actually confused this person says it's not a daily, but you want to add sound deadening
So that's gonna add a lot of weight and maybe sound deadening technology has changed a lot
I know there was like lightweight foam you could spray in that was much better than the
Dynamat yeah, I'm that's really heavy. So if it's not a daily
Why do you want to deaden the sound or is it just like it's a fun weekend car?
Well, it also like what other work would I like I'm not sure what to recommend like if you're putting in sound deadening
I'm not an exhaust. I guess right like we're not gonna we're not trying to improve your performance at that point
You're trying to make it more luxurious, right?
So or do you offset one with the other if you add weight from sound deadening?
Do you also need to add 50 horsepower to kind of keep the car make it feel quicker?
I mean, I would I'd probably put a new headliner in I'd get I'd get you know what I mean
Like if you're pulling all this shit out you could buy a new headliner and new carpet
20 year old fucking car sure nasty, you know by new carpet that the carpet itself will be very cheap
The headliner itself will be very cheap. It's some labor to do it, but it's not like rocket science
So like if you're gonna do it, you know, you know do it
Um, I would do the custom fabric of some kind if you're putting new seats in yeah, you might water in there
Yeah, interesting. Yeah
But I'm not really sure where else to go with that
I would do modern suspension of some kind if this has 20 year old suspension
Technologies changed a lot, you don't have to go crazy expensive rally stuff
But some sort of upgrade will probably feel a lot better. Yeah, sure
Okay Toyota I4 skin says when we talked about the you know kinetic lotus when comparing that to a stock regular Elise
I feel like a regular Elise is most of the way to that
Ver that for less than half the money. Is that a fair analysis or are you absolutely getting 60 to 80k more?
worth of additional driving experience
You're not just getting 60 to 80k of additional driving experience. That's not what he's selling here. You're probably getting
30 of driving experience, but what you're getting is a
A brand new car
So like the Elise that you go buy on bring a trailer or cars and bids today
probably
Because it's not quite old enough won't have all new bushings all new shocks a built motor
You know with with this you're not getting just a modded Elise
You're getting a brand new effectively Elise like they don't touch the tub
But like all the rubber is replaced like I didn't I didn't go through the whole list of parts
Like I went through the the parts like the what shocks and the brakes and whatever
but like there's a page and a half on the build sheet of
new OEM
Rubber and fittings and bits and fucking stuff
And so you're you're you're not getting a modded Elise
You're getting a resto modded Elise. And so if you want to talk about
Half of that money
Goes to the driving experience the other half of that money
Goes to the part where the car has been restored and fully freshened from the ground up
So when you buy this thing all you're supposedly are gonna have to do for the next ten years
Is change the oil and the tires and the brake pads and nothing else whereas if you were to start with a
random-ass
2005 Elise
You you're not gonna get a car that's like fresh and new and tight like this
So half and half fair question totally fair question
Tim a it feels like the C5 zero six is a usual go-to performance bargain recommendation
How would you describe the jump in performance and value to the C6 zero six which are around 30k for an early clean example?
I'd say significant
It's a C6 is a much higher quality item than a C5, which is a real plasticky thing
My C6 is pretty plasticky inside, too. I but I didn't see five. Oh boy. They're not good. They're I have a lot
They're not great
If it's just about a lap time
The performance increase is incremental
If it's about feeling like you're getting a higher quality item the extra five or six thousand bucks that apparently according to this
I don't know the market
That'll take to get you into the beer car is
significant
The chassis is more refined a hundred you get a hundred more horsepower from the factory you get better brakes
It's just a much higher level of performance from the factory
And if you do the same things you would do to the C5 to the C6 it goes even higher, you know
Listen and sometimes watch what are some quasi vintage GT's you'd cross shop against an R129 Mercedes SL 500
What's a good R129 cost right now?
25 grand for a good for a grand that's great 25 grand is a great one
average
15 is just sort of a decent
BMW 8 series yeah, but I mean yeah less reliable. Yeah, then the Mercedes. Yeah, honestly that Acura we're talking about
That's a GT car and it's 20 years old accuracy L type s very interesting
Yeah, go prelude the two-door Acura Integra that came out with the stick that was pretty cool
Lexus SCs, you know Lexus SCs are definitely definitely there. Yeah
I
Mean I might consider some
Mercedes like like like the e500 sedan Mercedes or maybe a Porsche 928
What about like the XKR like the 1.75 edition we have a BMW XKR's yeah, those are cool
Yeah, good. I know reliability wise, but that car was those are all right
Yeah, they're like the the one from like, you know, whatever in 2011 12 immediately before the F type
Those are cool. If you're brave an XJS
Really brave really brave
I mean, you know, you can you can get a lot of cool Mustang
I mean, it's not gonna feel like a Mercedes
But but you know if you're looking at a come for a convertible that's got some space about that alpha month was at Monaco
No
Orange one we drove we borrowed it from Montreal. No, those are six-figure car
Early, I mean maybe like early
BMW like a BMW e30 like a 325 convertible
Yeah, basically would would would be a good comp or you get it in 90s five series. That's that's a good one
Audience of 135 I I like that. That's good. I'm considering buying a left-hand drive
You mean a right-hand drive a risto any tips or tricks for getting used to driving on the other side of the car
No, there are I mean it it's it works exactly like you think it works
There's there's really nothing to it. I mean make sure you can see
Mm-hmm
It it will require more focus for a little bit
So just when what do we say when we drove the Lotus around England when you think you've got it wait another week before you turn
The stereo on yeah, because if a new variable pops up
You'll probably freak out and you'll miss shift or something like that. So just just learn it
Yeah, the gear pattern is the same your feet do the same thing the steering wheel turns exactly the same
You know if you're if you're shifting manually, you're just shifting with your other hand, but it's the same pattern
So like you shings like you know, we're used to pushing away with right hand
So if you push away with your left hand, you're going down any gear not up in gear
Right stuff like that the gears are in the same place. They are in the same place
Yeah, the body motion right is backwards
You know you may have to set your mirrors in kind of an odd way at first to get used to that and then of course
You know and a JDM car versus the US car the blinkers and the wipers are are flip-flopped
So you're gonna have to get used to that whereas like a right-hand drive European car. They're not
Chrysler's Pacifica
If you were casting cars for a rap music video, what car would you choose for the biggest flex?
Michael Gatsby
Yeah, I would say like round L wrote rolls, you know round or rolls. Yeah, you know rolls
Yeah, that would be even if you know, you know sort of thing. Yeah, I mean Jay Z has gone vintage the LM002
Recently, that's a good one, but I think I think like literal gilded era shit late 20s
Duesenberg's
Rolls Royce is that kind of stuff or the Cadillac 16 like or the no the concept car concept cars
Yeah, I you could also go concept cars. Yeah
Quadra Foley o-face how much secret pre-licensed driving did you do?
Any adventures? I never stole my parents cars without a license neither. I didn't I wouldn't have really had anywhere to go
I mean what I mean, I but my dad did let me drive a lot
Before I had my like like not out on public roads like we live near
A Sunni purchase big school says State University New York. We live near there and their campus was like
Like there was a huge ring road that was like literally a circle around the campus
And then there was a bunch of huge buildings and parking lots and whatever and it was a like in the off-season or whatever like summer
Like my dad would take me there with his car and we just like drive around the campus like I I was
Fully confident in operating a car and driving manual like like a year or two before I had a even a permit nice
That was nice. It was good. That's cool. Yeah, my my grandparents lived in one of those
Like gated communities and Palm Springs, which are like many many
It's like the suburbs there all just have a gate and they like a water feature
So I was allowed to drive around there with my parents in the right seat in my grandfather's gigantic
79 Cadillac de Vil I think
So I could do that. Yeah, and that's how I kind of got used to just blinkers maneuvering all that stuff. Yeah
Redhead step Jew
I was recently watching the no fucks given RX 7 video and I was wondering what your favorite
Nutty modified car was I mean that is that one was up here at the top. That's up there the Honda
S600 with the motorcycle engine was insane that Toyota Corolla the
75 Corolla with the supercharged Lexus engine was cool. I found the twin engine
33 Ford or something with musto and it's like who builds this a twin and two engines two superchargers. That was crazy the
Oh
What was it
The feet, excuse me the fiero
The the guy put the dual overhead cam B6 in the back and a Corvette ZR1 steering rack in it
And it was like it drove better than an NSX in some ways. That was really cool
Yeah, there's a lot of creative people out there doing especially when the car works
Yeah, that's when it's really impressive. Yeah when it's Frankenstein, but it drives well
Yeah, those are the only ones I like I like liked. I mean, there's other stuff that was like
Interesting for brief moments or whatever, but yeah the last page the project car left undone
Should we use a spray on PPF? You know someone just sent me that
Plasti dip is making a
spray on
PP a PPF like material
The one I saw the video someone sent me like a
Instagram reel of it. It wasn't clear
It was more like a spray on wrap like it was like black on a blue car
Oh, and it peeled off like a like a like a classic. It does glassy dip
Is this supposed to be clear?
Introducing the first invisible shield well
Look, I I think this is interesting. I
Would like to try it on
something
To see oh a nice soundtrack
So here's a here's their video on their website. They got the guy tapes off the nose and
Cleans it up with alcohol and then just sprays a can of this stuff on
Wipes and then kind of buffs it. It looks like it has a sort of a matte finish though
It does you can see you can see it. Yeah, and then you just pull it off
You know what I thought you know what I kind of dig this for maybe is that is like the track days instead of the
Instead of the painter's tape painters tape is so dumb people put painters tape on their car. I don't do shit
We'll rock chip right through that so long to put on yeah, so much tape things
This is pretty cool for that as long as it you know it repeated use doesn't damage
Sure the stuff because painters tape is good because I don't think it hurts your clear coat
So this right what does it interact with it? I'm not sure yeah
I might I wouldn't maybe look at it for like a for your track day or something like that
Or if you're doing like a road rally or something
I would just be nervous about long-term use because we know with plastic dip it
It's you can peel it off when it's new-ish and then it like it sets in there
And it basically turns to paint after a couple years. Yeah
Granny shift and not double clutching like you should
You've mentioned before your dad matched you dollar for dollar for your first car if you had kids
Would you take the same approach as he did or would you give your child one of your older cars as a starter car before having them?
Purchase would you give him the kuntash or the cow the older cars right in fairness my parents did let me drive
Their cars, you know until I had my own car, so it's not like it's not like they I didn't get to drive anything
Unless I bought my own car
But I was like as maybe I imagine you were I was I'd been thinking about what car I was gonna buy for for years
I was like I was ready to go
So but but I someone without kids giving like parenting tips here is a little odd
But I would I think the approach my parents gave me was the right one my wife same thing her dad said he would match
How much she saved? Yeah, she saved way more than he expected
But you know the goal with I think with him was he wanted her to have a safe car
Yeah, and if she paid for it herself she'd get have to get an older car
Maybe one and more of disrepair so matching it is a way for you to you know work together
And your kid gives your kid incentive to make more money and save money you get a safer car
Yeah, and I'll tell you something the the kids that I knew in high school the ones that had to
Work to get their first car whether they worked to pay for all of it or they were got matched or whatever
the way that we
Acted about our cars was very very different from the people who were given cars
Yeah, whether they were hand-me-down cars or whether they were new cars
I mean I went to a pretty ritzy school
So a lot of the kids got new Audi a fours or Jeep grand Cherokees and stuff like that and and other people didn't and
And and we really we really treated not just the car
But the responsibility of driving like way differently when we when we had bought our actual cars
Like it was a big difference in attitude
That I would if I had a kid would want that that attitude passed on to the kid to the kid I
Knew kid you must have known at least a couple that like totaled
Multiple cars in high school. Did you know anyone who totaled multiple cars and just kept getting new cars? No
No, I had a couple of them that would fucking wreck out a 318
And then they'd get a new grand Cherokee and they'd wreck out a grand Cherokee and they'd get it out EA for I mean
It was wild. I mean
Even like fairly well off me was like that's nuts
He's crumpled them up. They're just wrecking these things out and getting new ones like what is going on at the new ones were always like
Better
It wasn't like oh you couldn't handle his BMW you get a Corolla, right?
It was like you can't handle BMWs you get a Jeep you can't ale a Jeep so you get an Audi like well
They probably were like oh the Jeep's not a sporty car kids will make anything a sporty car
No, I'll tell you what a Jeep may not go around corners, but you can jump the fuck out of exactly
It's the problem
Oh
Man oh
Shit, this is what we're now. We're a tachafile. We're talking about lifting the BRZ again
We talked about this last week homie wants to turn his BRZ into a pseudo rally car for the street
Question what do I do about wheels and tires stick with the 17s or drop down an inch or two
Stay wide or go narrow street tarmac tires or off-roading tires
I feel like I want to have a dedicated set of gravel tires and a set for tarmac
No different than track and street wheels for my yeah, that makes sense
This will be my daily in the Dallas suburbs by the way, right? This is awesome
It's currently on Coney yellows with OEM springs and okay fine
For I mean first if you're gonna downsize you want to make sure that you're you're you're they'll clear your brakes
So you can only downsize like so much
But I would say if you want to improve your ride quality
I would consider going 16s with a little more sidewall and
And then yeah having a road tire and a and a gravel tire would be awesome
You don't need to go skinnies for the gravel you would go skinnies for like ice. Yeah
But I would say yeah, if you can afford two sets of wheels and tires
Then I think that's that's the answer because if you drive the gravel tires on tarmac a lot
You're gonna wear out the tread quicker and it also like it'll have a softer sidewall
Which will be nice in the dirt and in the gravel, but you might not want that on the street for cornering and braking
It's gonna make the whole thing feel like even softer. So go for two of them, but what a fun thing to do
Prayer of the refugee wagon superb
Thoughts on not running a front plate in states where it is required by law
Um, I mean dude, that's up to you your choice. Hey, that is that is like literally
Well one, you know conventional wisdom of course has one crime at a time and while this is not a crime
It's like a point two five of a crime like it
Here's the thing how dirty are we riding outside of this because if you're doing everything else
According to the letter letter of the law a quarter of a crime at a time is an NBD
No big deal and I'm pretty sure in California. No front plate tickets like 50 bucks. So like
it's it's a
It's a crime for poor people. What can I say? It's not a crime if you've got 50 bucks like that's shitty
But like that's how these work and so if you're comfortable with the potential punishment and or the fact that running no plate might attract
Attention right from the police that otherwise your car would not. Yeah
There's your there's your thing in California. If you've seen my tycon
I have the license plate front that the sticker which is rad
That's legal and you don't have to drill your plate
And that's like better than running a front plate and bet and not it you know
It's not as good as no plate, but it's better a good half measure measure fully legal. Yep. So you could consider that
But morally I have no qualms about this at all you you pay the cost to be the boss looks better not there
So Zach is that keeps it clean keeps it tight. You run a front plate
Yeah, because my well my my bumper was already drilled for it
Which is annoying in hindsight when I got my car wrapped
I should have bought a new bumper because they're not that expensive. Yeah, I could get the CSL one oh well
But I do the tow hitch mount so it's so they've in four or five motoring filled in the bumper
So that's not drilled anymore. Yeah, so that looks clean
But I do run front plate because I got tickets for it years ago. Yeah, I don't want to worry about it
Yeah, I mean in my for my for a daily driver type car
I would just say run the plate, you know, whatever first for a sports car where it ruins the profile in front end
Fucking roll the dice whatever keep that other plate in the in the car
Take your ticket like a man call off off the records not fighting your no front plate
Just go on that. I don't I don't do it. I'll take the ticket. Thank you very much
Peacar photos you've mentioned using pelican cases. I'm thinking about getting the
1535 air. Do you prefer foam padded dividers or trek pack? That's what we have. What are those?
That's what I have
Trek pack is the the the divider system that uses those u-shaped pieces of metal interlocking bits
I prefer a trek pack although what you have I have the insert is actually great
I have a
The truck has these these trek packs are cool. I have mine is a little softer
Yep, I have the full like drop-in insert. I'm pretty sure my case is a 1560. It might be a 1510
But I think it's 1560
And I have this full drop-in insert that has some options of like moving a few bits around with like Velcro
But the Velcro is really strong yours is foam covered in cloth
Yes, Velcro allows you to move around. Yeah, and stuff stays in there like pretty tight
And then I have the the divider the the organizer thing on the inner lid
That's the most one of the most important things because you gain a lot of volume. Yeah, I think the trek pack
I probably have I probably maximize my volume more than you because these are very thin
They're also really sturdy, but you haven't had any problems with yours
It depends on the weight of what you're carrying how much it's gonna get dropped around. Mm-hmm
I mean these are like infinitely adjustable and I find them to be really handy, but it's just it's not as soft
And if you're extremely hardcore you can go to Pelican with all your stuff. You know I know you can yeah
That's what I did for the a7 case so you can get laser laser foam
You can go on their website
It's really easy to use and you can you're gonna have to measure your shit and you can measure your lenses and all these things
You can tell them what camera you have and they know the shape of it and they will laser cut the foam
So it fits all your things perfectly. That's the best move big tip though
When you do that if you enter the numbers yourself make sure you get the depth right because the first time I ordered it
I didn't know that and everything was cut one inch down. I had to order it again
And it was a hunt. This is a smaller case, but it was a hundred dollars for totally custom foam pretty rad. Yeah, I
Haven't used any of the airs
We use the traditional
Pelican cases and I'm not exactly sure what the difference is to the air. I think they're there but they're both carry on legal
I think the air is slightly lighter, but this the volume is almost exactly
Well, if you get a roller though the roller blade wheel and bearing upgrade
We just I just got that shit is so clutch. It's rolls so smooth and quiet now
Um last one Koji Koji does a performance SUV or crossover have a place on the long-distance rallies like the road and track ones or not
So I have no problem with it people have brought x3 m's a guy brought a RS Q8
One guy brought a bintega once
Someone brought a macan turbo once
It doesn't really bother me. I I brought of a urus on an adventure drives rally when that came out
It doesn't bother me and it certainly wouldn't bother any of the people at road and track that put on these events
These are certainly dynamic cars and some people are bigger or need a more upright driving position for health reasons or or whatever
and so
Driving while awesome
They they have
Themes for their events. I don't think usually I don't think they I don't think they would necessarily be down with that with SUVs
You don't have to check because they also have rules about what it is. Yeah
No, if you wanted to come with a with a fast SUV on on our event that would be fine
People have done it. So I'm gonna kind of cayenne turbo GT ones
People have done it and people will continue to do it. Yeah, it's cool. Oh, no, no worries with me other other events
I can't necessarily speak for I know Rob Ferretti gave me shit when I brought the urus on adventure drives
He really wanted it to be sports cars and I was like
Are we to come or not?
And it turned out for the best actually because we I think I ended up driving like
Almost 3,000 miles and and if I was in a sports car, it wouldn't have been fun
Yeah, uruses are so great for long trips. Yeah, long as it's got fucking adaptive cruise
Which is not a given in that car at $300,000. Sure
Great questions folks. Thank you everybody. Appreciate y'all y'all patrons
Even you guys who talked mad shit appreciate you too
We've got we're gonna have to do some more shows because we're going on the ice race next week
Huh? So it's gonna be a busy week of shows and we're going to to the track on Thursday with the
Maserati
GT2 stradale which they dropped off this morning and it immediately got rained on yeah, so now it's clean now
It's now it's good again
And we'll talk about the Vespa
Next show although the review is I'm buying one so I'm not sure what else you need to fucking know
That's that's pretty much as good a review as you're gonna get
Thank you again. Love you all. See you later
About this episode
The episode features an in-depth review of the Acura Integra Type S, highlighting its engaging driving experience, lightweight feel, and impressive features. The hosts discuss its performance compared to competitors like the Civic Type R, noting its comfort and practicality for everyday use. Additionally, they explore the concept of 'unshitting' a 20-year-old Subaru and share thoughts on AI's role in the YouTube automotive space. The conversation is filled with humor and personal anecdotes, making it a lively listen for car enthusiasts.
ADAS
cylinder deactivation
dual overhead cam (DOHC)
front wheel drive
horsepower
light clutch
miles per gallon
NA engine
PS4S
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Acura Integra
Acura NSX
Acura TLX
Alfa Romeo Stelvio
Audi S4
BMW 3 Series
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Cadillac V16
Chevrolet Corvette
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Chevrolet Tahoe
Chrysler Pacifica
Ford Bronco
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Lexus LC
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Original notes
Matt Farah and Zack Klapman review the 2026 Acura Integra Type S; a new contestant to our towing vehicle list; can you "fix" a 20 year-old Subaru; why your project car needs an e-brake; and Patreon questions include:
- How to get CARB organization into car culture
- Did we ever steal our parents' cars?
- Favorite crazy modded cars we've driven
- RWD sedans with a Miatas ethos
- Has this CPO Lexus LC500 had too many tires?
- If we could only have one rental car ever...
- Does Ford suck at colors?
- Why do small hypercar companies use the outdated single-clutch gearboxes?
- Is aesthetic carbon played out now that Ferrari says so?
- Is a C6 Z06 that good over a C5?
- Vintage GT cars
- How to drive a RHD car
- Rap video cars
- Is spray-on PPF any good?
And more!
Recorded February 17, 2026
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