Integra Type S Review; Spray-on PPF?; Are Tire Changes a Bad Sign?

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All right folks on this episode is ack and I review the Acura Integra type s spoiler alert

We like it very much

I find a new option that enters the field in our

competition to find the best towing option for our potentially free

Trailer and we talk a little more about our thoughts on AI in the YouTube space to clarify some things from last week's show

Plus can you or should you unshit box a 20 year old Subaru? It's the smoking tire podcast. Let's go

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From the land of fatty meat dreams

So that's what happened Zach said said he was having fatty meat dreams

I've just had a lot of weird nightmares last I don't have that very often really yeah

And I felt really really full after dinner even though we didn't get like hmm things that seemed heavy

Yeah, I don't know if there's a lot of hidden like delicious oil and what we had yeah

I hope it was amazing. I hope we don't find out that I can't eat there anymore

You just gotta ask what kind of oil everything's cooked in took Zach. I took Zach to my favorite restaurant and I will plug it

Yeah, I'll do homies spelled H. O. M. M. E. S. Like the French like home home homes

Yeah, homes with their website said homies. It's home. Yeah, it's home. It's it's pronounced homies. Yeah, but it's it's a fun

Actually, it's it would be a great username on the patreon

Yeah, French West African cuisine the place fucking absolutely rocks so great phenomenal

Um

Better make a res though. Otherwise you ain't getting in because they popular and only I know the password

Which doesn't doesn't exist yet doesn't exist. You're trying. I mean, I'm trying to make a password happen for locals. Mm-hmm

I hate that shit when you know when a point of a place is a little local place and it's popular

I don't hate it because of that you want these these folks to succeed sure, but you just god damn it now

I can't get a res to my favorite spot. You were a fan when they were in the garage. You were there

Just let me get like, you know fucking

If you keep going from you know years, I think they usually you know

That's how you end up with like the seat at the bar. Well, no for sure, but like this place has no

Phone booking system whatsoever. That's why there can't be a password

You can't call him you have to use one of the apps and shit and there's no

As far as I know somebody somewhere. It's also a really small restaurant. There's like you work at Rezzy

It is very small

But if you work at Rezzy and you are aware of a backdoor way to have a locals password for like better

Rezzy's at those restaurants like let's fucking go. Yeah

I also don't want to skip you past other people because the optics would be bad

It's a very small restaurant and you know

Yeah, no, yeah, but but come on

Just across not just this restaurant across the board

respect the elders

Respect your your longtime customers

You know, they need a you need a punch card to show how long you've been going. That's what I'm saying. That's yeah

That's the local. That's the locals password. Yeah, but anyway

Fortunately Zach woke up from

Yeah, and and I rode a Vespa through the rain this morning

Because I had early I had a doctor's appointment in Beverly Hills and I checked to check in at 6 30 a.m

Which it was 48 degrees, which is like not objectively that cold

But when you're getting on a motorcycle getting out of bed and getting on a motorcycle that's cold. That's cold

Our bodies think that's cold. It's cold. Yeah, so I literally I wore long underwear

And it was all right and I was like, I hope they don't make me like running a treadmill for this test

I'll be very sweaty in this long underwear, but a little wet, but I have to give back the Vespa 310 today

I've had it the whole I've had the 310 for two months. You can buy one. Yes, definitely a hundred percent of my buying one

Fortunately, I think I'll be able to pay for more than

60% of it by selling the one I have oh

Nice, you know what I mean money and money I have has retained its value like super well

I could probably sell it on Instagram in a day. Yeah, you know

And I probably will to be honest with you because it's so if like if I never rode this new one though the 310

There would be absolutely nothing wrong with keeping mine forever sure. It's just that now

Right, that's the problem. That's how they get you had a little taste so I'll do

I'll do a review of the Vespa 310 in the next is that basically how dealership loaners work like your car broken and they go

Well, why are here take this new one around?

In theory. Yeah, which is great until the new one is the same one you've got but with a yes

Or if you bring in your alpha quad and they give you a Stelvio. Yeah, yeah, not the same. Yeah

Let's start the show with the week we had

With the Acura Integra type s

Not our first type s. We've this is the second second go round

With the type s and this car

What about what was I driving right before it?

Grant any else. Yeah, right the I think the in eos. Yeah

And also the in eos and then before that the Corvette e-ray and the GT3 RS

Which are you know both very?

Techy solutions. I mean the GT3 RS is an NA engine

but like with all the settings and all this arrow and shit and the the the Acura is

Just a

simple and

Well-executed car that like engages

Like basically everything that people who like cars ask for in a car is present in this car like good inputs

Lightweight responsive good shifter comfortable seats like an easy to use

Multimedia system not like too much like screens in your face

I mean there there are two screens, but the gauge cluster screen remains pretty much just a black digital

Screen I mean it was accurate as it weighs 3,000 pounds. Yeah, it does it feels like it feels like it doesn't weigh anything

And it's you know, it's a big comfortable car. Yeah

It is a big trunk with that with the hatchback in this one

I would love if they had an optional rear wiper in the rain a lot of in the rain a lot of a lot of rain's

Collects on to the rear windshield. Oh, yeah parked overnight nearly flat

And if you don't get up to highway speeds the air doesn't blow it off

So like I'd like a wiper

But but Hannah's like Matt like almost no sedans come with rear wipers. I was like that's true. It's absolutely correct. Yeah

and also

I really like the price

53 bucks 53,000 dollars as it sits which again not nothing but considering like how many different boxes this thing's checked and

how

Few affordable sports cars are left on the market

Like I drove this thing for five minutes. I was like, oh, yeah

I remember why this was that performance car of the year last year like this is great. It's such a good do everything car

It's a little was it $6,000 more than a Civic type R MSRP wise. Yeah, but I remember this was the stairs like Elio's or something

Yes, yes. Yeah, one of the best stereo stereo any price point in the last three years

Fantastic. Yeah, the stereo is really good and you get you the the lumbar support key makes a really big difference

The but from the Civic type R to this this rides a little better for every day. Yeah

I think this looks better than the Civic type R. It's just me not for everybody

I think they're both. I actually really like the front of the new Civic. I think they're both really good-looking, but I think

The lumbar and this is good, but the bolsters in the Civic type R are amazing

Like if you're gonna drive quick, this is a little bit

You know soft in how it holds you yeah, it's a little bit open

If I could combine the two or honestly just put like an air bladder or you know thing in the Civic type R seat

That would be one of the best seats ever, but you probably could do that. I mean I after my yeah

I wish it came with it. It should because it's a great seat. Yeah

But this is such a mustang do everything vehicle the Civic and Civic seats and the Mustang seats are two seats that are like

Really missing that adjustable lumbar and and if they could find an affordable way to do it

Those seats could be like perfect, but they're like sevens because of that

I'm sure you know these are supposed to be like a quote affordable cars

So they got a caught cut literal pennies wherever they can but like that's that shit bumps me out

but

For go, you know go anywhere do anything

Picking activity. There's nothing that the Integra is bad at I

Think it was the MPG though. That's the only thing that in a car that is like

Refined and and seems so well suited for like road trip stuff that I remember when I drove the Civic type R to

San Luis Obispo and back. I was like whoa. I'm getting like 22 miles per gallon

Yeah, it's not very efficient on the highway, and it also has a pretty small tank

So so your your cruising range is not as much as you would think considering how big the car

I mean advertised 28 highway, which is good that so if you can if you can achieve that but is that for this or for the

That's for this. I also wouldn't be shocked if I were to learn and I have no

I don't know the numbers on this if the Civic because of that wing

Gets worse highway fuel economy than this car does. Yeah, that's a great point

This may be more aerodynamic for highway and the Civic may be more suitable for handling it and have all a bit of a

Higher limit and that wing might make some drag

That's a good call because a car and driver achieve 31 miles per gallon at 75 miles per hour

So they're in the Integra. Oh, so they actually go, you know advertised. So there you go

That means the strong car may if you were driving a press car in Southern, California

Which I imagine you were it may have had fucking cup twos on it

Oh, yeah, which this has this has ps4 s's which there's probably a

Milo two per gallon in that in that tire. That's a sticky tire. It's a good point

Yeah, so the combination of sticky tire wing, you know probably means this is a better highway car than the

Which I buy that if I had like a long like even though

It's a stick like it's the clutch is so light and the shifter is so easy that I wasn't like tired of driving it

In traffic or anything. Yeah, and then you can go right at the track. I mean, this is such a good do everything

It's a rare thing these days and the only my only criticism out of the track because and I've got a lot of track time in this thing

is

Is if you're an advanced driver

It's a great beginner intermediate car

And if you're an advanced driver you can have fun in it

But you're gonna you're gonna get to the limit of the car in your first couple sessions if you're an advanced driver

You know and and it won't it probably won't challenge you

Like you can find other challenges in driving but like the car

You know even if you go full-off

It's still such a manageable thing that if you're an advanced driver you go, okay

I get this after like a couple sessions and you won't be like I'm gonna take this to the track every weekend

You know but and then you get throw mods at it

But then would you change the character that's like down the rabbit hole and you know

And you you still got a front-wheel-drive car like there's making it go fast

There's a reason that like no front-wheel-drive cars have more than like

325 350 horsepower. It just stops being useful

When you guys are adding flings

Yeah, but like it's just such diminishing return you start throwing all this money at stuff

Yeah, you know I would I'd leave this alone. Wouldn't you?

Yeah, unless they're if the warranty expired and I still had it and there was like downpipe tuned that would get me another

60 reliable horsepower. I would do that sure just to like just to have it

You know rejuvenate my interest in the in the acceleration

Yeah, I have it, but otherwise I wouldn't touch anything at all. Yeah, this is uh, I don't know Japan's m3 kind of

It's a it's I I think it's the nicest driving front-wheel-drive car. I've ever driven. I

Mean if all things considered like maybe I'd have to drive go drive it again

But like maybe my r53 John Cooper works mini that was my previous and the fiesta ST

But the fiesta ST is so small. It's very well the mini also. Yeah, I think the mini is more exciting

Yeah, I think this is nicer if that's the word we're going for is definitely this yeah more well-rounded

I mean, I think it'd be this versus

Like I'm on a mark 7 GTI like that would be maybe yeah compare it to

For a minute best handling front-wheel-drive car ever was the Acura CL type s remember that yeah

I wanted one of those bad to know five. They were the shit. Yeah the six speed and that blue

Those were fun. Those were the fucking jam the second gen CL you couldn't get them. I

tried to get one and

I literally could not get one and that's how I ended up buying the Audi s4

Because I could get an s4 and I couldn't get a fucking Acura the couple times

I've tried to buy Honda products. I couldn't get them in high school. I had the money for a prelude

That was my first choice. Yeah, couldn't get it six month wait to get a prelude

But the Subaru legacy GT was on the lot and so I got that man. Yeah bummer

I mean, that's just good-looking cars could have been a Honda guy this whole time

It was to I was a year early on the Civic si's

The Civic si didn't come out until a year later. So I couldn't have got one of them

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Do these were I and I drove one these were the shit

They drove great. I think they brought one. I think Acura when they did when they launched the new

TLX yeah, they did a big drive at Angel's Crest

Uh-huh when they did the generations thing so they had the Integra type R which was amazing

Yeah, and then they had one of these yeah, and it was like why is this so comfortable?

But also handles pretty well and scroll down these were these were great the more photos

Did they say though does it say with the skid pad number on there on the car and driver test results? Does it have it?

Quarter 14-7 in the quarter it doesn't have handling now in the full test they had handling

But this thing was a dual overhead cam v6

260 horsepower 232 pound-feet of torque and it weighed

30 high 3400s

Then kind of stood things scooted

six-speed manual

You get 28 29 miles a gallon the highway with this thing and the interior the interior layout the seats and the dash and shit

Of these were dope. They looked great 260 horsepower in

2003 was a bunch you're you're getting close to like

STI Evo horsepower and those at the time were like oh my god

This is the fastest sitting in the world. Well, this was a v6. This was this would have been smooth

Yeah, this is I mean this is the the the accurate 3.2 was an awesome awesome engine

They put it they put that shit at everything Frank's red hot of v6 engines

Yeah, I love those but but dude I am I am absolutely shocked

I don't see more integrity type s's on the street

They people need to be buying these things there. They're these are fabulous cars

My only gripe with it and I have not gotten I have not asked Andrew about it

Is if I don't remember the last the last one we drove was a 24, right?

2024 yeah, okay, probably this is a 2026

The only difference I can tell is that the ADAS

Comes back on every restart in this car and that is a new be a new

Because it definitely did not do that in the previous generations of cars

Definitely is a hard word, but like I

Never experienced any kind of ADAS interventions in those cars

Once I turned it off one time. I'm trying to find it

You know a news on whether it was updated or changed

Yeah, this this particular car which I got with the car with less than 500 miles on the odometer is a

2026 model your car every restart the ADAS comes back on and it's not that's not like so like

If you're shopping for one of these if you could find yourself a leftover 25

I might I might strongly consider that versus the 26. I wonder because what else did they change?

Do you know nothing as far as I know?

Is this color new? I don't know if I'd seen this silver before so that might be a new color

But like that's that's a new color is minor fact of tweaks and some tech updates

Tech updates. That's what that's what that means. Yeah, tech update buried in tech updates

Is ADAS that comes on every fucking time you restart this car infotainment upgrade?

It seems like according to road and tractor like they didn't nothing about the car fundamentally changed

Like they didn't get new dampers or a whole right drives exactly the same as the last one and you know, whatever all tweaks

Yeah, but this is one of them. So

That's a that's a bummer. You hate to see it. The ADAS is coming for us dude

You hate to see it 2026 all these like fucking all these guys

You know, it'd be great for the world

What if

Dictator Farah, what if when I run for president? What if you could convince all these fucking

Coal-Roll and diesel tuners to instead

Pivot their businesses

To to ADAS to remove ADAS defeat tunes

I think that that would bring so much more liability to them. No, dude

You would own let think about it. You'd own the libs so hard

There's safety nanny bullshit. You'd own them by defeating it, right?

But I think if I was one of those companies what I'm doing is I'm going from making a product that the EPA might get mad at

Three years later and which they did and like sue me for

Versus if I turn off a bunch of people's ADAS and then they crash and then all of them sue me for causing their accidents

I feel like I'm opening myself up. They but they but they asked you to turn off their ADAS. Sure

Lawyers they signed it. They signed a thing saying I want you to turn off my ADAS because it stinks

That's valid. I

I appreciate your ability to try to weaponize this group that was doing one illegal thing to a new

Well, they're obviously perfectly happy to be

So fuck shit up right that right and obviously the main goal of those businesses is to own the libs

It's not to make horsepower, right? Gail Banks told us that right? So if we're not making horsepower

We're just owning the libs. So like here's a new way you can own the libs. I

Wish I knew more I know because some people when we asked for advice on towing rigs

A lot of folks were saying to turn off things like cylinder deactivation or some of these diesel functions because they hurt the life of the engine

Excuse me

But then other you know other companies are out there just like trying to make power blow smoke and be assholes. Yeah

I've heard the cylinder deactivation can hurt the life of the engine argument before

Okay

But that's like

That's like long distance kind of that's like folks who are towing, you know 600 that they're those are like pros

I don't know. Maybe I don't know how early it was hurting

You know like the LS engines were doing it and they had a big problem the GM had a big recall

But I don't know if it was affecting them beyond 100,000 miles or if it was above 40,000 miles or what?

I mean anything like that's gonna take time to take an effect. It's not gonna be like your truck has

5,000 miles on it you you turn that system off and also just yeah

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The Lexus gx 550 which is a thing. I'm not in love with I have no emotional attachment to it

Contown 9,000 pounds and has and has adjustable

Self-leveling air suspension

Did you know that no, but I do know we definitely want self-leveling suspension

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no all three of our choices do have it, but like it's it sort of splits

The difference it's like

75 grand 80 grand it's a lot of money, but it's a lot cheaper than a cayenne

Wow, and it's like

The is that unlike those are the wheels

Those look like fucking

Lorenzer

That is the pimp my ride is

Looks like if you had a time machine and you want to make a lot of money the hard way you could just bring modern wheels back to

2000 yeah, yeah

That's crazy that one. So two of the trims the the look there's like the

The base trim and then there's the luxury trim the premium which is base and then luxury and then the over trail

The luxury can tow 7800 pounds the other two trims

Towed 9,000. Yeah, 9,000. So the over trail and the is more expensive than the premium

but like

That's panel likes boxy shit true. You know, it starts eight grand more. Yeah

You get a whole bunch of off-roading shit. I will not use right

Yeah, maybe we save the money and go premium, but that's actually a pretty pretty good option

I mean it looks cool. I don't hate it. What engines this thing. This is the twin turbo six

Oh, okay. Yeah, but it's got enough power and it has the self-leveling suspension

It has some knobs for things

It is it is a fundamentally a very nice vehicle although when I drove it, you know on the the highway

We had the over trail mm-hmm, and I didn't love how it rode

It rode real truckie. Yeah, you know, it's a body on frame and it rode like it. Yeah, that's why I can tell so much

Yeah, maybe if we try the premium on more like roady tires instead of off-roading tires and not also off-roading

Suspension set up. Maybe that will make a difference. That's the seats look nice. The seats are comfy. Yeah, no

So it's not it's not something. I'm passionate about but it does check check all the boxes

No, it's passionate about a Lexus really. No, I would rather own the Cayenne hybrid. Yeah, but it's just a lot more expensive

Or I have to get a get a used one with 25 or 30,000 miles on it

Whereas look this dude's this photo is towing a fucking boat

Not much squat in the back there

Okay, so, you know

It's a pretty that's a pretty tough. Yeah, that's a strong towing capability. Yeah. Yeah, it was more

I was very surprised when I saw that number, which so that's all right. Okay, so that's okay

That's our leaderboard you and your dad can have his and his Lexus's Lexi. Oh

With his T with his yeah, I wonder what that can tow

Probably not the probably not much at all. That's just I don't think that's set up for the TX

five

500 H

5,000 pounds. Oh, okay. Okay, not bad

I mean for like you could tell a little boat little side-by-side a little a little something which is probably all you that car is more like

You know, it's it's it's more of a luxury car than a utility car. It's more just like a tall luxury car

It's got captains chairs and shit. Yeah, yeah

So

Yeah, I wanted

We got a few I got a few different

Interesting emails few different different opinions about the AI and YouTube discussions with Johnny

a couple people called me an idiot for saying that

Where I like to say I said YouTube was in the toilet and they wanted to correct me that YouTube is actually making record amounts of money

Well, yeah

Which is not what I was trying to say about YouTube

Absolutely not what I was saying at all about YouTube

And someone else, you know had a good had a good

Point that I that I didn't get around to mentioning and they were like they're like about AI

you know

About my AI skepticism and they said, you know one one one way that that AI another way that AI is a theft

Is like think about recipe websites like think about as someone who starts a website

That's based on advertising like all other websites and they put time and energy into

Doing recipes sure and like they make the food. They take the photos. They write the thing

They have to write all those

To get people to find it and all that work they put in just for

Whatever pick your LLM to scrape the data

Put it in a search result and now the person who did it. They don't even get all they wanted was a click

Yeah, that's all they wanted was a fucking click and now and and maybe if the if you like how it was presented a

Follow or a bookmark or whatever like, you know, or you take a peek in an ad don't even click at it

Just just have it up here on your screen briefly like the standards of what people want from a viewer on a website are so low

Take a look use the thing the knowledge I have here

that

The LLMs just scrape it right off of that. Yeah, and and effectively

Just bypass that that these these small

Overwhelmingly pretty small businesses or media maybe medium-sized businesses or even a large business a big media company like fucking Hearst or something

you know

Put into creating that content. It's it's gone

It's just they don't get just the basic thing that they want which is to just the click right?

Yeah, now if you search like you know best brisket recipe it goes here you go

Like here's the top-rated one online sure but but doesn't give the click to the person who made the recipe

Yeah, yeah, or you know if you were from in in our business

What were the what were the lap times from performance car of the year?

2025 oh sure, you know what I mean like you if you search for that you'd get the story

You'd click on the story. I hope well, but nowadays with like now you get a summary of Google AI summary

and now you won't click anymore and

So the the the the company that's spent

Who knows a hundred grand whatever whatever it whatever it cost

So you would have to click so we just searched it and yeah

The summary is very small. So you'd have to click road and tracks link

Just try just try performance car of the year instead of the acronym

Oh

Nice nice the AI so my example doesn't work

I'm sorry that my example doesn't work the AI summary sucks and you do have to or road and track has a good interest

Yeah, but or if you uh, if you use chat GPT or if you use a different LLM

Maybe you'll get a different answer. I don't exactly know. I'm sorry that my real-time test didn't quite work

But with recipes it absolutely fucking does

And then there's probably a lot of other examples and and there's examples of

AI

That helps

Medicine sure sir, you know

You see you saw the oh we I sent you the video, but other people had as well, which was like oh the Star Wars thing

So I was a cure cancer, right?

And it just stares and then it just cuts back now the poor man with like huge AI boobs

It's very and it is the perfect summary of what AI is doing. It's like hey, we need all these resources

Oh to help us. No, yeah, everything patrol everybody and that's about it. Yeah, yeah

We'll give them a little give them a little taste. We'll make porn really realistic and

Will you won't have to dig through the actual search results and Google to find stuff?

We'll just summarize it at the top. Will it be right? Not really fucking sure. Will you double-check?

Absolutely not. Yeah, it's it is powerful for some things

But I mean if you want a recipe just search online and then you can see the pictures and you can see what people are saying about it

That's what you don't get with you know chatty bt food. It's just gonna say trust me. This is the best one a couple of people

Told me that I was an idiot for saying YouTube was in the toilet and then used examples

Of people who were doing very well on YouTube examples like Jake and Logan Paul who are perhaps the worst humans ever

Yeah, a couple people said I don't know anything about YouTube

I don't know if I we're making the wrong videos if we were you don't get to complain about

Your revenue and your traffic being down if you don't if you're not willing to do the things that get good traffic and I say

That's the point. We know what gets good traffic and it's cringy as fuck

We were told by fucking Kevin what gets good traffic and that's not good for the fucking world

Yeah, I think what was great about YouTube and and still is to some degree is you can make whatever kind of content you want

Right and also I'll say this like make the art you want to make the audience will find you

Yeah, there's someone else other that has a similar brain, but what's tough about that is the black box in between

Sure your audience finding you yeah because the algorithm and look there is content that will attract eyeballs because it

Knows how to game like our lizard brain and show you lots of colors lots of cuts all these things and it might not be as

Informative as video a over here, but your brain is gonna be drawn to it and YouTube's gonna feed that to you

And you're no longer allowed to leverage your other media

Spaces to promote this thing. Oh the link so if you if you make a YouTube video and

You try to go to your Instagram audience and say I've made a YouTube video. You should check it out that post gets fucking

Pushed down because none of the platforms want you to leave the platform

So you have to either like imply

Somehow that you've made a YouTube video and these people should check it out

Or you have to make a completely separate piece of content for Instagram

Which you won't necessarily get paid for

And and and then those people will won't go watch the thing that you're trying to make money from anyway

Like it's just like not a good system

For years when you tell people build up your social media audiences and you can use that to promote the thing that actually makes you

Money except now they've just cut all that off and

They go no no no no no now you have to create

Individual pieces of content for all of this different shit because we're not gonna let you cross promote anymore

So like that's why I think it's shitty. Yeah, because like

Now you know because

You know, it's not shitty if you call yourself like a creator and you're just like an ambiguous

Content creator and you're willing to make videos about whatever or you're just vlogging or you're doing skits or you're doing

Pranks or you're doing whatever you're just like a

For lack of a better word like a fucking Jake Paul or Logan Paul like other than

Jake Paul is like a boxer now, right?

But like I don't know what the other guys fucking with what they do like what's in their videos like and okay

I'm in like an old guy, but like it's not like I you can go like well

What are his videos about like kind of like everything and nothing, right?

It's like a vlogger glorified, right? Like that's I guess I haven't paid attention since he did went to this forest

Which I should mark is YouTube's gonna flag me for saying a word. Yeah, okay. Well

but I mean point being like if you're if you're a

An automotive journalist or a certain type of journalist and not just sort of an ambiguous creator personality

Then it makes it much harder for you to

Spread your work in that way because you have to somehow you're not you can't now use the traditional

Methods of telling people that you have a new thing you have to like grab them from within

YouTube's own ecosystem using the same exact method that like people that'll just fucking do whatever to get a view are using I

think it's a bunch of things because

humans get bored

Like the most successful TV shows ever, you know after season four you'll see some people going I like the first season's better

It's like well because it was new and exciting stranger things with great example

I mean a lot of times only yeah, it's like a band's first album

You get for your first album

They have their whole life to write and then they got to write the next one every year

And I spent ten years writing first season. Yeah, but I think you know we get the humans ability to get used to things

It's like unparalleled so that that's part of it, but also there's just way more competition because

Okay, sure people might say that our videos are not keeping up with the Joneses

But I would say there's a lot of new automotive creators that do amazing work throttle house and their views also got cut

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so that I think is a good example of it's not just us

It's everybody is competing, you know, and it's dark content creators

Yeah, and all these audiences like I don't get bored or move on or just get distracted by a new shiny thing that YouTube wants to promote

And in my experience they they know because they have all the data

How hard they can squeeze an older content creator who's been committed for a long time and they know how?

They need to get a new content creator hooked with good numbers and good revenue in the beginning so that they go

Yes, this is my career

They know if you've been invested for 10 or 15 years putting out videos

You're probably not just gonna cut bait. You're probably gonna keep making videos

Even if they give you less than you used to then they used to

You're in you've been yeah, I don't know if our CPM is different than a new creators like if we it's not necessarily CPM

It's could be visibility

There's like four things that need to be multiplied together to end up with some dollars at the end

Yeah, they can pull the strings on three of them. Yeah, that's true

You know

So and they're not gonna tell us which ones they are and and and I'm not I'm not necessarily like boo-hooing

There's no like constitutional right to make YouTube videos. There's no

Universal basic income of YouTube videos like all I'm saying is like why I think it's shitty now

like and like

But you're making them on YouTube like yeah, because where else would you do this?

Like it was great in the in the beginning like so many things on the internet

It did open the door. Yes, but like like so many things like fucking stranger things

You

Changes it turned shitty because people fucking

You know get greedy or move the thing or you're trying to achieve different goals that are the goal

For us is find allowing the people do want to find us to find us in a fucking straightforward way

And the black box is like making that much harder. That's true

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Yeah, oh dude by the way, you know what happened my my carbon fiber wedding ring cracked whoa

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I can just pull that off. So I had to I had to order order up a new one

And I ordered a backup it went up by $20 the last five years. That's pretty good. Yeah

Wow was $159 and $179 now. I'm shocked at the size of the inflation. That's great

How little it was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I got a new glow-in-the-dark carbon fiber wedding ring on the way

But I feel kind of naked without it. You know what I mean?

Front-wheel drive NSX says what would it take to get carb to be more open-minded towards car culture?

I feel like policing a minority of the population when bunker oil exists is a waste. I

mean, I

I'm kind of with you

You know to say why are why I don't like when when we say why are we looking at this and not looking at this because

The problem with bunker oil is like it's like international waters

Like it's it's that kind of thing like most most ships aren't allowed to burn bunker oil in like Los Angeles for instance

they have to

Like they have to either have a dual power a dual power mode and burn like hydrogen or

Natural gas or some other kind of non bunker oil thing when they're within a certain distance of the city

But like yeah, I don't know what international law can do or plans to do to curb fucking bunker oil

I totally agree with you that like I mean it seemed like maybe with the quote Leno's law

there was like on the way to a

little bit of sanity but like

Carb's perspective is probably like well, why

Should we give you an exemption so you can just like have fun in a car? Well, and they're probably going

You know why in their eyes

They're they don't want to sacrifice the health of the majority for the enjoyment of the minority. Yeah, yeah

I mean, that's probably fundamentally it. Yeah, they show favoritism towards the kind of people that have

the disposable enough income to buy, you know extra non-carb compliant cars like

I don't think carb really gives a fuck about

Making it easier to drive 20 to 30 year old cars that were like those transitional emissions type cars like 80s like like

My coontosh, which will has never and will never pass smog

I

Think I do believe there should be

Either based on mileage or or whatever exemptions for

vehicles of like cultural and historic interests like I

I'm okay getting historic tags or whatever and applying and having an extra hurdle

So you could have that car registered in California and it won't pass smog

But you're only driving it a certain amount and whatever

But I think what just happened this week is an example of you know the slippery slope

It was like oh the EPA is no longer going to regulate some of the emissions from cars

Yeah, it was like and also factories and all those things so people you know if you're a politician and you get carb to agree to like

Just give permission to like a certain group of cars

Well, then your next opponent can go. Oh, I thought you're about cleaning up the air you said that you were except for this one little thing

I mean, it's just the domino effect is terrible. Yeah

Yeah, it's it's the kind of thing where when you're a gearhead you go

Why don't they do this and then when you're like the politician you go well?

Come on asshole. Yeah, of course. It's like

You know flip side of

California, you know, you got a you got to make it work. Yeah, but lots of people do

I mean like lots of people do like you can you can you can letter of the law it you can get creative a little bit

You know, I prefer you didn't go Montana, but you know

There's there's room for a little bit of creativity and you can own a lot of really fast stuff that is within the emissions regulations

Yeah, like it's not like we are devoid of horsepower here. Yeah now

The modification thing is very difficult, but again like you can get a lot of horsepower

Probably more than most people need off the dealer a lot. Yeah, there's so yeah, there's if you're talking about modern cars

There's not a lot of reason to add horsepower to most modern cars. Yeah

Triple a is on the way. Are there any rear-wheel drive sedans with a Miata ethos or are they all heavy pigs?

respectively a

Miata ethos, I mean that's tough because like if you want a sedan like

You just like

Nobody wants them like the minimalist

non-insulated

You know like like sit sedan like people want a certain amount of baseline

refinement

When you're buying a four-door car, right?

Because the goal the Miata's goal is to be enjoyable to drive

Spiritedly. Yeah, so they can aim everything at that

But a sedan you're like the goal is to carry four to five people in comfort probably across a pretty significant distance

Yeah, and when you're talking about like a rear-drive sedan

Most companies that are that are bothering to make rear-wheel drive sedans in the last 15 or 20 years

Are doing it for sort of like high performance reasons, but they're also

luxury cars. Yep, and so you just

People that want a high performance sedan don't typically want

To hear the gravel through the footwells or to hear wind noise or the kind of things that are like

Part of a Miata charm. I think this is what we had a lot. We had a lot of options in the 90s

I mean, you know, chemises got that famous post of like 33 sports cars that were available a lot of 2 plus 2s

And now we now I think you have to go hot hatch if you want a four-door car in the spirit of the Miata

Front-wheel-drive hatches is your that's your market

Is about as close as you're gonna find

or you go

GR Corolla or

Focus RS or fiesta ST back in the day or GTI like it's light

It's aimed at the young person who wants to have fun driving

But just the I think the packaging the cost and all that stuff of a real-drive car. They always go up market

The closest I could think of in a modern car would be that Julia T

Mm-hmm, you know four-cylinder. I heard those were fun. They're not bad. Yeah, they're they're all right

I mean, that's that's about as close as I think you'll get in a modern car. Yeah

Yeah

Speaking of triple-a so this weekend

I went and sold a firearm to a gentleman legally for anybody listening

Guys a tow truck driver and he comes outside with me afterwards and he sees my car and he goes

He's like, oh nice BMW. He goes I tow a lot of these

I start laughing and he told me a story. I'll tell it very quickly. He's like, yeah, just this guy the other night

His brakes stop working. He's like he was driving engine made a huge sound

Brakes stop working and he had to slam it into the barrier to stop

Oh, wow, and I was like why didn't he pull the e-brake and the guy goes he didn't have one

It was like a project car with no back seats roll bar like this guy had built a race car

So if you build a race car that you drive on the street keep your e-brake fucking handbrake

Yeah, it sucks

Yama Habibi have you been to Mount Panorama? I have not no that would be cool. Yeah

Sterling likes to go fast. My parents want to buy a certified pre-owned

Lexus LC 500

Certified but a red flag that stuck out is that according to the car facts

It's had two alignments and five sets of tires in

45,000 miles is that anything to be concerned about I asked the dealer and they said it's normal

Two alignments and five sets of tires in five years and 45,000 miles

Look, I don't think that's that abnormal. I mean, I think maybe they're going through tires quick, but like

You know, if you've got that's a set of tires every 9,000 miles. Yeah, I mean look

Maybe that person drives spiritedly. I mean if the first person

You know if the first owner

lived somewhere that's

On a beautiful windy road as a great has a great commute and fucking let's it rip

Daily. Yeah, you could blow off a set of Michelin's in 9,000 miles. Absolutely

I think it depends it depends on where this person lives like if they live in Florida where they just drive straight all the time

Then I'd be worried that

Like your friends Rivian where there's there was a hardware problem on the suspension

It couldn't get aligned correctly and we just eating tires

Yeah, but if that's not the case and this person lives near I don't tail the dragon or somewhere twisty

Yeah, and if the owners like in their 30s or something then maybe that's why they're going through tires

Or like 45,000 miles in five years look a good amount of miles

Like there's a decent there's a decent chance that this is this person's only car true

Summers and winters. Do we know what kind of tires they're going on if this person went bought the car?

Like let's say they bought the car mid winter with summers. They would have had

You know a tire change every six, you know, they might have they might have gone summers and winters

And if you're going back and forth between summers and winters, you may want to get an alignment

Oh reddit reddit said so I found a post that says I drove 10,000 miles and the LC already needs new front tires

And people are saying welcome to the LC club. Okay, the front ends heavy and it's got soft tires

You know from stock so that everyone's like that seems about right. There you go. So so then I think that is a

That's pretty standard the car is just gonna go through tires

Good to know. Yeah. Yeah, good to know and it doesn't it does make sense

Although I'm you with ps4 s's if you're not pushing it if you're just driving around on them

They last a long time longer you should get 20 out of a set that you're not pushing if you are if you're pushing it

Yeah, if you're having fun

Okay

Um

Pain in the adas says what would be your ideal rental car if you could only rent one

Car model for all future trips regardless of location. Oh my god. This is the easiest question. I'll ever answer

Oh, you're gonna say portion 11 rental car dude rental car. Yeah, you can rent those minivan

Chrysler Pacifica

I've never been in a situation with a rental car where I had a minivan and wish I didn't

I

It's a rental car. I'm not taking some I'm not taking some I'm not like not madman all of a sudden

If I want to take a fun trip, I don't not get in a rental car rental cars or utilities for me. Okay, that's a good point

I think I would go with like a Jeep Grand Cherokee or no, it's heavy time. Are you fucking kidding me?

I want to remember that Grand Cherokee. That's why I switch to Chevy top. Well, that one had the 4xd engine

I was that was heinous. So I'll go Chevy Tahoe. Mm-hmm. I

Told us ground clearance a little more do do everything but minivan

It was an excellent choice. Yeah, if it was good enough for biggie

It's good enough for her. I don't know

federal government

Do you all blow me?

How funny is it that there are two C level automotive personalities both named Alex both of whom own Morgan three-wheelers

Both bald and whose last name is rhyme and only differ by one letter. That's funny as hell. It is very true

Yeah, it is very nice people. Yeah, Alex Goy and Alex Roy shout out to him

Only one of them is a is a slang for a Christians done by Jews though, right? That's true

fast and curious

I'm going to the ice race any events to attend while there attend the ice race the ice race is the event

Fuck else you think is going on in Montana. This is it. Everyone's going for that and you go skiing. No, dude. Honestly

We have no idea what's going on very scheduled

They have given us and I'm I granted like I'm a driver. Yeah, like Zach has a regular media pass

Oh, you've media pass media pass

But like I haven't I'm a driver Ali is a driver like we know nothing

So I have no idea what's going on

I'm going two days early to go skiing because why the fuck not

while you're in there and

beyond that

We have rented a suburban and a

Quote mid-size all-wheel drive SUV notice we didn't rent a minivan

We didn't know we didn't you know how much they cost for this week

Dude that I looked to get a fucking Pacifica for this trip. It would have been like two G's

It was like 4x the cost of of a five-passenger SUV

She's a suburban and a minivan were like suburban was like three G's all

Suburbance that was so funny about I told you about the suburban to the Yellowstone Club, right?

That's just all there is because it's all there is Chevy dealership down the street. Correct

There's no there are no other dealers

There and so all these fucking billionaires and also once you're in the Yellowstone Club nobody shows off anymore

There's no like nice watches or nice clothes or any that shit

Because you're there like who are you showing off to so like everybody just rolls the same like silver black or white suburban

I'm just like that one. Yeah, you know and so but same with the rentals. It's there's that's all there is but there's

Queershifting gears why does Ford suck at colors? I just saw molten magenta in person

And it looks gorgeous reminds me of a more metallic Ruby star

But photos online took a photo and it looks red photos online and look red pull it up

Can we get a photo of it? So Ford I have a theory about Ford's colors. Oh

This color. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so this is very much like a for a frozen berry. Yeah, or a casis red

Yeah, you need the right light. It's all about the light

Yeah, it's a lot. It's a little bit deeper than casis red. It's really nice

I haven't I think it's very cool

But I just meant it's in terms of it's not it doesn't look like a cease-read but it in terms of how light affects it

It's different angles look different. I'm just look at this pictures front three-quarter people listening if

The part that's in shade looks purple

Mm-hmm and the part that's lit up looks like Mazda red with a dash of purple in it

Yeah, slightly more purpley Mazda red. So yeah, it transforms a lot depending on how the lights hitting it

I really like this color Ford for so my theory on Ford colors is

Every year they offer one color

That costs way more than they sell it for and I've usually in the past when I've bought Ford's

Have usually bought that color. It was the original orange on the Raptor the nitrous blue on the Focus RS

The what the whatever the fuck the silver was on my Mach-E was amazing that I think the liquid silver was awesome

This is definitely one of those colors

They had a green on the updated Mach-E. That was amazing

Deep British green and they used it on the Bronco. It's called like explosion green. Yeah

Yeah, yeah, so every year they've got one color that's got a ton of depth and a ton of richness and a ton of

Fucking sheen and you go there's no way that they that they can get six hundred dollars

You know and they're losing money on this and then all the other colors are flat and terrible

Yeah, this person this person said they suck at colors

I don't think they do and if your phone took a photo and it looked red

I mean right here where it's in full Sun. It's it just looks like a flat red

Yeah, I think your phone's ability to capture

You know

Like my car when I look at my car when the Sun is on it on the mountain

Like I see some of the depth and some of the sparkle in the green and when I pull my phone up and take a picture

It looks black. It looks black. Right. Yeah, so some of that's the phone's ability

I mean I can put two car two pictures of Mike my Porsche side-by-side and it will look like it's not even the same car

Casice red. I mean I very famously saw the photo on Craig's list of the car and I went

Ew, I'm repainting that and then I walked up to it and went this isn't actually the car

I've just wired you money for and they're like, yes, it is

But this one's pretty

I thought I was buying an ugly one. This is this is pretty. That's the color. Yeah, like so shit

I

Blow horns

Why do so many of the new boutique hypercar companies insist on using single clutch automatic transmissions?

There's a consensus

That they're the worst type of auto to develop the worst of auto yet almost all of them insist on using them easy

They're the only gearboxes that can really hold that kind of power reliably and the people buying these cars by in large

Don't want to drive stick. Yeah

Either they don't know how or they don't want to yeah when we were with

SSC they were like, I mean there are things making what 850 pound feet of torque like some ungodly number

It's making 1200 power. I think it's the SSC. Yeah, I think it's more than that

So basically I think it was like 1700 horsepower and like 1200 torque or something

You said there was no dual clutch that they could buy that could hold over 800 pound feet of torque

Companies are working on it, of course and maybe bodies got one and that's it. They've got theirs and it's theirs

Yeah, but I think that's why zinger has solved this problem the solution

It doesn't have to be go dual clutch zinger solve the problem by putting a motor generator flywheel paired with a single clutch

Gearbox the same single clutch gearbox these guys using and it feels a dual clutch. Yep. They just solved it. Yeah that way

So very creative for them. Yeah

I

Would love to know the take rate on the manual Pagani utopia versus the paddle shift one

I doubt they would tell me but I could ask

LL Cartier we said last week that Ferrari has decided aesthetic carbon fiber is played out

Well, Johnny. I've said that I don't know if Ferrari said that I

Thought this will last five years

I think having carbon fiber carbon fiber accents is trashier than having camo accents is that well?

I wouldn't go that far. Yeah, they're both nothing is trashier than camo

You're not hiding the vehicle

No, I look I

There is a way to use

Naked carbon fiber in a way that looks cool. Mm-hmm, but they don't always do that sometimes it can look plasticky

Sometimes they overdo it sometimes if you've got

Like for instance if you have like a bright colored

Porsche spider RS that has all the carbon like shit on it

It looks it's kind of a mess where if you get that stuff just body color painted

It looks beautiful Corvettes the e-ray that I drove

On the road trip recently with all the body color painted stuff. That's fabulous. It looks great. So like selective application

You know and I think over I think two things like overdoing the interior kind of turned me off a lot when it's like the vents and everything

Are have some carbon on it just too much and then it's so expensive when the cost of carbon came down a lot

With this stuff used to be

prohibitively expensive hard to get now on ebay you can get a carbon anything for any car

So you go oh well the market saturated and it's no longer special. So what can Ferrari do to differentiate themselves from?

John with a 2015 Civic that has full carbon on the inside is like they go away from it and then they do something else

Yeah, I mean I think it's very smart of Ferrari to go look we're gonna put

10 kilograms of luxury back into the interior

We'll find it somewhere else. We'll take it out somewhere else

I think that's wise at at this point because like

The ones we drive when it's like interior carbon kit, you know saves

You know an ounce and it's

$12,000 and you're like what you know what I liked it in

the

The the 458 we borrowed from what's her face? Oh from Gunther work like the

Gear selector like knob that's stuck out of the center was a cool looking piece of carbon fiber

We've one piece molded

But then if like that I thought was rat

But if you cover the little vents and all those controls and like little buttons and carbon it just looks tacky a little bit

Yeah, yeah selective

There's speed holes clap men says I know

Unshit boxing is a crazy task, but I have an 06

WRX wagon sure I'm planning to do some work, too

I can't find anything better in that rally wagon formula

I know sound deadening a radio with carplay and seats, but what else would you consider or men recommend doing?

It's not a daily

Anytime I see an o6 wagon. I still want one. I just think they look rad

Well, I'm a fan on so like it. What do you recommend doing is a is a is a weird question

Because I wouldn't recommend doing any of this, okay

But like that's just me I

Get where you're coming from in terms of how they look like yeah, they look they look nice

But like I

Mean

I'm actually confused this person says it's not a daily, but you want to add sound deadening

So that's gonna add a lot of weight and maybe sound deadening technology has changed a lot

I know there was like lightweight foam you could spray in that was much better than the

Dynamat yeah, I'm that's really heavy. So if it's not a daily

Why do you want to deaden the sound or is it just like it's a fun weekend car?

Well, it also like what other work would I like I'm not sure what to recommend like if you're putting in sound deadening

I'm not an exhaust. I guess right like we're not gonna we're not trying to improve your performance at that point

You're trying to make it more luxurious, right?

So or do you offset one with the other if you add weight from sound deadening?

Do you also need to add 50 horsepower to kind of keep the car make it feel quicker?

I mean, I would I'd probably put a new headliner in I'd get I'd get you know what I mean

Like if you're pulling all this shit out you could buy a new headliner and new carpet

20 year old fucking car sure nasty, you know by new carpet that the carpet itself will be very cheap

The headliner itself will be very cheap. It's some labor to do it, but it's not like rocket science

So like if you're gonna do it, you know, you know do it

Um, I would do the custom fabric of some kind if you're putting new seats in yeah, you might water in there

Yeah, interesting. Yeah

But I'm not really sure where else to go with that

I would do modern suspension of some kind if this has 20 year old suspension

Technologies changed a lot, you don't have to go crazy expensive rally stuff

But some sort of upgrade will probably feel a lot better. Yeah, sure

Okay Toyota I4 skin says when we talked about the you know kinetic lotus when comparing that to a stock regular Elise

I feel like a regular Elise is most of the way to that

Ver that for less than half the money. Is that a fair analysis or are you absolutely getting 60 to 80k more?

worth of additional driving experience

You're not just getting 60 to 80k of additional driving experience. That's not what he's selling here. You're probably getting

30 of driving experience, but what you're getting is a

A brand new car

So like the Elise that you go buy on bring a trailer or cars and bids today

probably

Because it's not quite old enough won't have all new bushings all new shocks a built motor

You know with with this you're not getting just a modded Elise

You're getting a brand new effectively Elise like they don't touch the tub

But like all the rubber is replaced like I didn't I didn't go through the whole list of parts

Like I went through the the parts like the what shocks and the brakes and whatever

but like there's a page and a half on the build sheet of

new OEM

Rubber and fittings and bits and fucking stuff

And so you're you're you're not getting a modded Elise

You're getting a resto modded Elise. And so if you want to talk about

Half of that money

Goes to the driving experience the other half of that money

Goes to the part where the car has been restored and fully freshened from the ground up

So when you buy this thing all you're supposedly are gonna have to do for the next ten years

Is change the oil and the tires and the brake pads and nothing else whereas if you were to start with a

random-ass

2005 Elise

You you're not gonna get a car that's like fresh and new and tight like this

So half and half fair question totally fair question

Tim a it feels like the C5 zero six is a usual go-to performance bargain recommendation

How would you describe the jump in performance and value to the C6 zero six which are around 30k for an early clean example?

I'd say significant

It's a C6 is a much higher quality item than a C5, which is a real plasticky thing

My C6 is pretty plasticky inside, too. I but I didn't see five. Oh boy. They're not good. They're I have a lot

They're not great

If it's just about a lap time

The performance increase is incremental

If it's about feeling like you're getting a higher quality item the extra five or six thousand bucks that apparently according to this

I don't know the market

That'll take to get you into the beer car is

significant

The chassis is more refined a hundred you get a hundred more horsepower from the factory you get better brakes

It's just a much higher level of performance from the factory

And if you do the same things you would do to the C5 to the C6 it goes even higher, you know

Listen and sometimes watch what are some quasi vintage GT's you'd cross shop against an R129 Mercedes SL 500

What's a good R129 cost right now?

25 grand for a good for a grand that's great 25 grand is a great one

average

15 is just sort of a decent

BMW 8 series yeah, but I mean yeah less reliable. Yeah, then the Mercedes. Yeah, honestly that Acura we're talking about

That's a GT car and it's 20 years old accuracy L type s very interesting

Yeah, go prelude the two-door Acura Integra that came out with the stick that was pretty cool

Lexus SCs, you know Lexus SCs are definitely definitely there. Yeah

I

Mean I might consider some

Mercedes like like like the e500 sedan Mercedes or maybe a Porsche 928

What about like the XKR like the 1.75 edition we have a BMW XKR's yeah, those are cool

Yeah, good. I know reliability wise, but that car was those are all right

Yeah, they're like the the one from like, you know, whatever in 2011 12 immediately before the F type

Those are cool. If you're brave an XJS

Really brave really brave

I mean, you know, you can you can get a lot of cool Mustang

I mean, it's not gonna feel like a Mercedes

But but you know if you're looking at a come for a convertible that's got some space about that alpha month was at Monaco

No

Orange one we drove we borrowed it from Montreal. No, those are six-figure car

Early, I mean maybe like early

BMW like a BMW e30 like a 325 convertible

Yeah, basically would would would be a good comp or you get it in 90s five series. That's that's a good one

Audience of 135 I I like that. That's good. I'm considering buying a left-hand drive

You mean a right-hand drive a risto any tips or tricks for getting used to driving on the other side of the car

No, there are I mean it it's it works exactly like you think it works

There's there's really nothing to it. I mean make sure you can see

Mm-hmm

It it will require more focus for a little bit

So just when what do we say when we drove the Lotus around England when you think you've got it wait another week before you turn

The stereo on yeah, because if a new variable pops up

You'll probably freak out and you'll miss shift or something like that. So just just learn it

Yeah, the gear pattern is the same your feet do the same thing the steering wheel turns exactly the same

You know if you're if you're shifting manually, you're just shifting with your other hand, but it's the same pattern

So like you shings like you know, we're used to pushing away with right hand

So if you push away with your left hand, you're going down any gear not up in gear

Right stuff like that the gears are in the same place. They are in the same place

Yeah, the body motion right is backwards

You know you may have to set your mirrors in kind of an odd way at first to get used to that and then of course

You know and a JDM car versus the US car the blinkers and the wipers are are flip-flopped

So you're gonna have to get used to that whereas like a right-hand drive European car. They're not

Chrysler's Pacifica

If you were casting cars for a rap music video, what car would you choose for the biggest flex?

Michael Gatsby

Yeah, I would say like round L wrote rolls, you know round or rolls. Yeah, you know rolls

Yeah, that would be even if you know, you know sort of thing. Yeah, I mean Jay Z has gone vintage the LM002

Recently, that's a good one, but I think I think like literal gilded era shit late 20s

Duesenberg's

Rolls Royce is that kind of stuff or the Cadillac 16 like or the no the concept car concept cars

Yeah, I you could also go concept cars. Yeah

Quadra Foley o-face how much secret pre-licensed driving did you do?

Any adventures? I never stole my parents cars without a license neither. I didn't I wouldn't have really had anywhere to go

I mean what I mean, I but my dad did let me drive a lot

Before I had my like like not out on public roads like we live near

A Sunni purchase big school says State University New York. We live near there and their campus was like

Like there was a huge ring road that was like literally a circle around the campus

And then there was a bunch of huge buildings and parking lots and whatever and it was a like in the off-season or whatever like summer

Like my dad would take me there with his car and we just like drive around the campus like I I was

Fully confident in operating a car and driving manual like like a year or two before I had a even a permit nice

That was nice. It was good. That's cool. Yeah, my my grandparents lived in one of those

Like gated communities and Palm Springs, which are like many many

It's like the suburbs there all just have a gate and they like a water feature

So I was allowed to drive around there with my parents in the right seat in my grandfather's gigantic

79 Cadillac de Vil I think

So I could do that. Yeah, and that's how I kind of got used to just blinkers maneuvering all that stuff. Yeah

Redhead step Jew

I was recently watching the no fucks given RX 7 video and I was wondering what your favorite

Nutty modified car was I mean that is that one was up here at the top. That's up there the Honda

S600 with the motorcycle engine was insane that Toyota Corolla the

75 Corolla with the supercharged Lexus engine was cool. I found the twin engine

33 Ford or something with musto and it's like who builds this a twin and two engines two superchargers. That was crazy the

Oh

What was it

The feet, excuse me the fiero

The the guy put the dual overhead cam B6 in the back and a Corvette ZR1 steering rack in it

And it was like it drove better than an NSX in some ways. That was really cool

Yeah, there's a lot of creative people out there doing especially when the car works

Yeah, that's when it's really impressive. Yeah when it's Frankenstein, but it drives well

Yeah, those are the only ones I like I like liked. I mean, there's other stuff that was like

Interesting for brief moments or whatever, but yeah the last page the project car left undone

Should we use a spray on PPF? You know someone just sent me that

Plasti dip is making a

spray on

PP a PPF like material

The one I saw the video someone sent me like a

Instagram reel of it. It wasn't clear

It was more like a spray on wrap like it was like black on a blue car

Oh, and it peeled off like a like a like a classic. It does glassy dip

Is this supposed to be clear?

Introducing the first invisible shield well

Look, I I think this is interesting. I

Would like to try it on

something

To see oh a nice soundtrack

So here's a here's their video on their website. They got the guy tapes off the nose and

Cleans it up with alcohol and then just sprays a can of this stuff on

Wipes and then kind of buffs it. It looks like it has a sort of a matte finish though

It does you can see you can see it. Yeah, and then you just pull it off

You know what I thought you know what I kind of dig this for maybe is that is like the track days instead of the

Instead of the painter's tape painters tape is so dumb people put painters tape on their car. I don't do shit

We'll rock chip right through that so long to put on yeah, so much tape things

This is pretty cool for that as long as it you know it repeated use doesn't damage

Sure the stuff because painters tape is good because I don't think it hurts your clear coat

So this right what does it interact with it? I'm not sure yeah

I might I wouldn't maybe look at it for like a for your track day or something like that

Or if you're doing like a road rally or something

I would just be nervous about long-term use because we know with plastic dip it

It's you can peel it off when it's new-ish and then it like it sets in there

And it basically turns to paint after a couple years. Yeah

Granny shift and not double clutching like you should

You've mentioned before your dad matched you dollar for dollar for your first car if you had kids

Would you take the same approach as he did or would you give your child one of your older cars as a starter car before having them?

Purchase would you give him the kuntash or the cow the older cars right in fairness my parents did let me drive

Their cars, you know until I had my own car, so it's not like it's not like they I didn't get to drive anything

Unless I bought my own car

But I was like as maybe I imagine you were I was I'd been thinking about what car I was gonna buy for for years

I was like I was ready to go

So but but I someone without kids giving like parenting tips here is a little odd

But I would I think the approach my parents gave me was the right one my wife same thing her dad said he would match

How much she saved? Yeah, she saved way more than he expected

But you know the goal with I think with him was he wanted her to have a safe car

Yeah, and if she paid for it herself she'd get have to get an older car

Maybe one and more of disrepair so matching it is a way for you to you know work together

And your kid gives your kid incentive to make more money and save money you get a safer car

Yeah, and I'll tell you something the the kids that I knew in high school the ones that had to

Work to get their first car whether they worked to pay for all of it or they were got matched or whatever

the way that we

Acted about our cars was very very different from the people who were given cars

Yeah, whether they were hand-me-down cars or whether they were new cars

I mean I went to a pretty ritzy school

So a lot of the kids got new Audi a fours or Jeep grand Cherokees and stuff like that and and other people didn't and

And and we really we really treated not just the car

But the responsibility of driving like way differently when we when we had bought our actual cars

Like it was a big difference in attitude

That I would if I had a kid would want that that attitude passed on to the kid to the kid I

Knew kid you must have known at least a couple that like totaled

Multiple cars in high school. Did you know anyone who totaled multiple cars and just kept getting new cars? No

No, I had a couple of them that would fucking wreck out a 318

And then they'd get a new grand Cherokee and they'd wreck out a grand Cherokee and they'd get it out EA for I mean

It was wild. I mean

Even like fairly well off me was like that's nuts

He's crumpled them up. They're just wrecking these things out and getting new ones like what is going on at the new ones were always like

Better

It wasn't like oh you couldn't handle his BMW you get a Corolla, right?

It was like you can't handle BMWs you get a Jeep you can't ale a Jeep so you get an Audi like well

They probably were like oh the Jeep's not a sporty car kids will make anything a sporty car

No, I'll tell you what a Jeep may not go around corners, but you can jump the fuck out of exactly

It's the problem

Oh

Man oh

Shit, this is what we're now. We're a tachafile. We're talking about lifting the BRZ again

We talked about this last week homie wants to turn his BRZ into a pseudo rally car for the street

Question what do I do about wheels and tires stick with the 17s or drop down an inch or two

Stay wide or go narrow street tarmac tires or off-roading tires

I feel like I want to have a dedicated set of gravel tires and a set for tarmac

No different than track and street wheels for my yeah, that makes sense

This will be my daily in the Dallas suburbs by the way, right? This is awesome

It's currently on Coney yellows with OEM springs and okay fine

For I mean first if you're gonna downsize you want to make sure that you're you're you're they'll clear your brakes

So you can only downsize like so much

But I would say if you want to improve your ride quality

I would consider going 16s with a little more sidewall and

And then yeah having a road tire and a and a gravel tire would be awesome

You don't need to go skinnies for the gravel you would go skinnies for like ice. Yeah

But I would say yeah, if you can afford two sets of wheels and tires

Then I think that's that's the answer because if you drive the gravel tires on tarmac a lot

You're gonna wear out the tread quicker and it also like it'll have a softer sidewall

Which will be nice in the dirt and in the gravel, but you might not want that on the street for cornering and braking

It's gonna make the whole thing feel like even softer. So go for two of them, but what a fun thing to do

Prayer of the refugee wagon superb

Thoughts on not running a front plate in states where it is required by law

Um, I mean dude, that's up to you your choice. Hey, that is that is like literally

Well one, you know conventional wisdom of course has one crime at a time and while this is not a crime

It's like a point two five of a crime like it

Here's the thing how dirty are we riding outside of this because if you're doing everything else

According to the letter letter of the law a quarter of a crime at a time is an NBD

No big deal and I'm pretty sure in California. No front plate tickets like 50 bucks. So like

it's it's a

It's a crime for poor people. What can I say? It's not a crime if you've got 50 bucks like that's shitty

But like that's how these work and so if you're comfortable with the potential punishment and or the fact that running no plate might attract

Attention right from the police that otherwise your car would not. Yeah

There's your there's your thing in California. If you've seen my tycon

I have the license plate front that the sticker which is rad

That's legal and you don't have to drill your plate

And that's like better than running a front plate and bet and not it you know

It's not as good as no plate, but it's better a good half measure measure fully legal. Yep. So you could consider that

But morally I have no qualms about this at all you you pay the cost to be the boss looks better not there

So Zach is that keeps it clean keeps it tight. You run a front plate

Yeah, because my well my my bumper was already drilled for it

Which is annoying in hindsight when I got my car wrapped

I should have bought a new bumper because they're not that expensive. Yeah, I could get the CSL one oh well

But I do the tow hitch mount so it's so they've in four or five motoring filled in the bumper

So that's not drilled anymore. Yeah, so that looks clean

But I do run front plate because I got tickets for it years ago. Yeah, I don't want to worry about it

Yeah, I mean in my for my for a daily driver type car

I would just say run the plate, you know, whatever first for a sports car where it ruins the profile in front end

Fucking roll the dice whatever keep that other plate in the in the car

Take your ticket like a man call off off the records not fighting your no front plate

Just go on that. I don't I don't do it. I'll take the ticket. Thank you very much

Peacar photos you've mentioned using pelican cases. I'm thinking about getting the

1535 air. Do you prefer foam padded dividers or trek pack? That's what we have. What are those?

That's what I have

Trek pack is the the the divider system that uses those u-shaped pieces of metal interlocking bits

I prefer a trek pack although what you have I have the insert is actually great

I have a

The truck has these these trek packs are cool. I have mine is a little softer

Yep, I have the full like drop-in insert. I'm pretty sure my case is a 1560. It might be a 1510

But I think it's 1560

And I have this full drop-in insert that has some options of like moving a few bits around with like Velcro

But the Velcro is really strong yours is foam covered in cloth

Yes, Velcro allows you to move around. Yeah, and stuff stays in there like pretty tight

And then I have the the divider the the organizer thing on the inner lid

That's the most one of the most important things because you gain a lot of volume. Yeah, I think the trek pack

I probably have I probably maximize my volume more than you because these are very thin

They're also really sturdy, but you haven't had any problems with yours

It depends on the weight of what you're carrying how much it's gonna get dropped around. Mm-hmm

I mean these are like infinitely adjustable and I find them to be really handy, but it's just it's not as soft

And if you're extremely hardcore you can go to Pelican with all your stuff. You know I know you can yeah

That's what I did for the a7 case so you can get laser laser foam

You can go on their website

It's really easy to use and you can you're gonna have to measure your shit and you can measure your lenses and all these things

You can tell them what camera you have and they know the shape of it and they will laser cut the foam

So it fits all your things perfectly. That's the best move big tip though

When you do that if you enter the numbers yourself make sure you get the depth right because the first time I ordered it

I didn't know that and everything was cut one inch down. I had to order it again

And it was a hunt. This is a smaller case, but it was a hundred dollars for totally custom foam pretty rad. Yeah, I

Haven't used any of the airs

We use the traditional

Pelican cases and I'm not exactly sure what the difference is to the air. I think they're there but they're both carry on legal

I think the air is slightly lighter, but this the volume is almost exactly

Well, if you get a roller though the roller blade wheel and bearing upgrade

We just I just got that shit is so clutch. It's rolls so smooth and quiet now

Um last one Koji Koji does a performance SUV or crossover have a place on the long-distance rallies like the road and track ones or not

So I have no problem with it people have brought x3 m's a guy brought a RS Q8

One guy brought a bintega once

Someone brought a macan turbo once

It doesn't really bother me. I I brought of a urus on an adventure drives rally when that came out

It doesn't bother me and it certainly wouldn't bother any of the people at road and track that put on these events

These are certainly dynamic cars and some people are bigger or need a more upright driving position for health reasons or or whatever

and so

Driving while awesome

They they have

Themes for their events. I don't think usually I don't think they I don't think they would necessarily be down with that with SUVs

You don't have to check because they also have rules about what it is. Yeah

No, if you wanted to come with a with a fast SUV on on our event that would be fine

People have done it. So I'm gonna kind of cayenne turbo GT ones

People have done it and people will continue to do it. Yeah, it's cool. Oh, no, no worries with me other other events

I can't necessarily speak for I know Rob Ferretti gave me shit when I brought the urus on adventure drives

He really wanted it to be sports cars and I was like

Are we to come or not?

And it turned out for the best actually because we I think I ended up driving like

Almost 3,000 miles and and if I was in a sports car, it wouldn't have been fun

Yeah, uruses are so great for long trips. Yeah, long as it's got fucking adaptive cruise

Which is not a given in that car at $300,000. Sure

Great questions folks. Thank you everybody. Appreciate y'all y'all patrons

Even you guys who talked mad shit appreciate you too

We've got we're gonna have to do some more shows because we're going on the ice race next week

Huh? So it's gonna be a busy week of shows and we're going to to the track on Thursday with the

Maserati

GT2 stradale which they dropped off this morning and it immediately got rained on yeah, so now it's clean now

It's now it's good again

And we'll talk about the Vespa

Next show although the review is I'm buying one so I'm not sure what else you need to fucking know

That's that's pretty much as good a review as you're gonna get

Thank you again. Love you all. See you later

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