Jaguar's Identity Crisis Keeps Getting WORSE

Welcome to Spike's car radio, everybody. Here we are in a new seating position. We're excited. It's

not coming to you wearing his 6263 Rolex. Johnny's just returned from a Ferrari trip. We can't

tell us about, and there's a ton happening in the car world. There's tons. Tons! I don't

know where to start. I don't know where to start. Well, we saved a job. You're referring

to Jerry McGovern last week. We reported what was reported in the news, which was that Jaguar

had let him go. Well, this is a minute after our reel came out on Instagram. They responded

to us. They responded directly to us. We did not fire Jerry McGovern. And it turns out

he's not fired. Now, it was very confusing. And it was out there. And we're just joking,

by the way, it wasn't in response to us. There were a lot of folks go back to the original

story here. Let's talk about the story, though, because it's really confusing. So I've traced it

all back to this website, Auto Car and Auto Car, India, who a week or so ago reported that Jerry McGovern

departed the company, marking another high profile exit following CEO Adrian Martell's retirement

in August, all based on that stupid Jaguar that they made. A story first broken by Auto Car and

Auto Car, India, in August, I guess. So they, I guess they broke that original story. And now,

according to sources, they published this story that McGovern was sacked and escorted out of the

office, though details remain unconfirmed. An email to the company seeking confirmation of the

news went unanswered, but we published it anyways. Right. So perhaps this is where this rumor

or real firing was first reported. Then everyone very surprised. You know, we talked about it here,

going, you know, because this guy has designed some beautiful land rovers. Range Rover. I mean,

he's protected Range Rover better than anyone. Right. Yeah. Some great stuff. And we thought,

all right, well, he has this one flop, this Jaguar. And they, they canned him and they canned the

guy before him. And it's gone. But no, once again, we're in this confusing vortex of Jag,

there's only one person to fire at Jaguar right now. They're head of press. They're head of

marketing and PR has to be fired at this point, this confusion, this mess, this job that needs to

be cleaned up. Did you see the complete statement? It said, we didn't fire him. And we're not going to

comment. Yeah, we're not going to comment. What do you mean? You're not going to comment. We don't

want to talk about you anymore. Here's, here's the larger issue. If you go back to that slide,

you're just on where he looks like a star. Yeah. See that JLR. Yeah. So they thought that the good

idea and this and the government was involved in this, instead of being Jaguar Land Rover, which by

the way, talk about resonance, of course, like a Jaguar, a Land Rover, two to, like, it's

Reese's peanut butter cup. Let's get rid of that. In fact, let's get rid of Land Rover.

Yeah. We're going to want Land Rover. We'll be JLR and we'll have Defender, Discovery, Jaguar,

and Range Rover. Land Rover will just disappear stupid. It's not original thought on my part,

but like they just, we need a seismic pair of dime shift at this point. We need a clean,

we got to erase everything somehow. I don't think things could get more confused

than last week. And yet now they are. And like he said, Johnny, we're not going to talk about it.

No, it was the strangest statement. It's bizarre. Right. What it means is, of course,

we absolutely fired him. We fired him and we had a real back. We just don't want to admit anything

was wrong with our decision to throw away all Jaguar. And it's not like they're throwing away

all those mobile history. It was a bad day. It was a cool history. It's like, you know what I mean? It's

Jaguar is storied, like C type, D type, E type, XKS, XJS, the sedan, the most gorgeous

sedan ever built, the XJ, right? Embrace that in some way, figure it out. Well, the problem is

into cars at this point. The problem is the people and the marketing and the talking. There's

somebody there and everybody Jaguar knows who it is. They're going, yeah, we know who this is.

It might be the guy who's running, is it Tata that runs the... Oh, he died. Who's running this

company? No one. It might be the wire. This guy is not... I did talk to one Jaguar employee,

I'll leave his name out of it, but at quail, actually, I had motor locks before quail. And I said,

I said, so, you know, I still haven't found the blowback from that video. And he pulled me aside. He's

like, we spent like $125,000 making that video. And we got like $2 billion worth of press.

But oh, man, it's horrible. There is. There is. There is. There is. There is in cars.

It definitely is in cars. You can't make anyone want to buy any one of these things. No,

but it definitely made you know the name. We all are talking about Jaguar, but nobody's negative

connotation. Yeah, no one's buying the car. It's like, Coke and New Coke. All they got to do now.

All they got to do now is bring it out. You're making our point. New Coke. Yeah. No, it was

a disaster. But yeah, it's a joke. But Coke sales, when they got rid of New Coke and brought back Coke,

Coke sales went up. There's no Jaguar outside of New Jaguar, but they might have a, they might be

being like, I think we're seeing the end of the company. I think they should euthanize Jaguar.

Yes. Euthanize it for five years. Right. Well, they did. They've done that. Yeah. Let's just,

I don't want we don't want to talk about. Anyways, I don't want to spend anymore. We're buying

Jerry McGuire. Yeah. Get into your transporter and beam yourself down to the nearest furry planet,

whatever you're doing. Or call us up and tell us what's going on. Either one of you fired

enough. I'm with you, Johnny. I suspect he was fired. I suspect the blowback and the confusion

over marketing the car and having the guy fired at the same time was a mistake. But also they're

getting rid of Land Rover. Stupid. This article caught my eye. Time to feel poor. 2025. This is

kind of a look back at the most expensive vehicles made. And this is the paradigm shift we are

talking about a couple weeks ago. And this fellow Sean McManus, where is he? He's on car buzz.

Kind of put it together in a list of the most expensive cars of 2025. But also like the cars,

you know, this is where we're at now with aspirational car buying. These are cars we can't afford.

Right. Right. And here's the list. Go ahead and go down it. So expensive 99.8% of humans will never

be able to own these things. And here they are. If you do win the lottery, yes, Johnny. What do you

got? I was just going to say they came out with a Navara R so that rematch Navara is not even that

expensive. That's the entry model R. Yeah. So here we go. Rematch Navara 2.2. What else is on there?

Never. Never. Never. Navara never. This is something I would really want. They're still selling you.

It's so crazy. These cars are amazing. They're so good. Yeah. How many of these did they make? Go

to that. Click on that blue interior just for one second. I don't know. This is making me nuts.

So it's basically a law for R. You think a much better body and the higher stuff removes.

So it's just the vintage and V12 and a really good chassis. If I hit the billion dollar powerball

tonight, this is it. I think I would buy this. Not in this red. Can't argue with that. Look at that

thing. Yeah. That's great. I don't think I've even seen one in real life. Yeah, they're around.

They should. I know. I haven't. I haven't caught a bunch of them. What else is on this list of cars will

never be able to afford the Batista? No, no. That's the rematch. This is this is such a nice car.

I drove it. It's such a nice car. Really? Yeah. It's it's just it looks like an amalgam of

McLaren Ferrari and then other stuff. Yeah. Well, I mean, peanut-free and a lot of Ferrari. So

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My buddy Dave David Davide designed this. Is this an electric car? It is.

But it's also it's 1900 horsepower. Like all electric fucking motor. Yeah. That's interesting.

So this is is this pretty much the only electric hypercar? Well, the rematch Navara and this

are the same platform. Right. And also, honestly, the body and black, as they call it, is we'll

be shared with the new Bugatti Torbillon. Just, you know, remove one motor out of V16. But yeah,

those two. Well, there's the lotus thing, which I got to, you know, if I get into my

multi-million dollar electric car, I would bet I get pretty depressed on the third day. Just,

I just don't I don't think I would feel like I got my money's worth from a hypercar that was

three million dollars. I think everyone who says that somehow find a way drive one of these.

Really? I got out of the car. I finally know the answer to how much horsepower is enough.

It's 1900. That's enough. What else can't we afford for 2025? That's the one. That's the

other electric. Yeah. Okay. 2000 horsepower. There you go. Looks hypothetical at this point. Go

down. Gordon, Marry. Okay. I like that. That's the 33. So that's not the 50. Yeah. Yeah. But

we like what Gordon, Marry's up to. That's for design. I gotta fix that design. Keep going.

Also, the base price is formerly, but yeah. Yeah. That's a car. That's the best car.

You know, I was trying to get, I was at that Ferrari party and I was offered the 12th

cylinder and I was told, I'll be the first to drive it. And then I brag to Johnny and what did you say?

I have it coming. Actually, you might give us. I have it coming. I'll be one of the 21st. Then

Matt Farragos, Matt has it right now. He's coming on the show. He goes, I have it right now.

He beat all of us. Yeah. Yes. And then I got I got delayed into January because of both of you. Yeah.

Yeah. But we're cozying up to Ferrari as much as we can. Farragos, I was just with Ferrari.

Nice. They're nice. You can't say driving what? Oh, I drove the Amalfi. I can't say how it drives

when I drove the Amalfi. Can I guess? Sure. It's fantastic. Okay. Next car.

All right. The asphalt. What is that?

The owl. I knew what this was and I forget. So it's probably not a real car. Hey,

chat GBT. Come up with a dumb car name. Give me 10 options. Oh, six. Ask park owl. Yeah. Okay.

I don't even know what that is. It's two words that don't create desire in any way. And nobody

wants to drive an owl. I think. Can you, can you, can you click on the rear? I think I know what this

is. I think this is a Corvette on, yeah, it's a Corvette. I think this is a Chevy Corvette with a body

kit. Hey, you know that really kind of sluggish bird that head, head spins and the eyes are really

too big and sometimes it's friendly with people. It makes noise and then it eats rats. Let's name

a car after it. Yeah, hit this one if you made it in Dubai. Sure. The interior for a second. Yeah.

That looks like a Corvette. That's a Corvette. This looks like something that the Pinaferina

took ozempic and created. Go to that inside shut again. Look, there's too much ozempic jammed into

this car. Stop injecting yourself and blue true gold. Yeah, you get off this car. This car is

making me angry. I've never seen a car make me angry. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's better. Yes.

See, now this is low. This is way more expensive than this. All right. Well, it's just the base price.

You cheat skates. Yeah. Bring the price. Here's another car, Johnny. Like, I'm being honest,

like, if I had, if I went powerball tonight, I'm bought, I would buy this and I'd feel okay

about driving it. I'd buy the Mistral. We both win. I get the Mistral. You get this. I would buy

an owl just to burn it on the show. It's a YouTuber. Aspark. Today we are part of the Aspark Owl. Tomorrow

the Yuhudi and Puma. Yeah. Yuhabian. Yuhudi. Yuhudi is what is the better name. All right. Anything

else on this list? We need to go over. Oh, not out yet. Not out yet. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

So where do we go from here in 2026? Are we going to the five to 10 million? I mean,

looked at Mistral's on sale. The Mistral's 5.8 million. It's got to be more on the list. Yeah.

Any more? Yeah, there we go. Now we're talking. Yeah. Yeah. That's wicked. That's track only,

but it is good. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a lot of these being built in the factory. I don't know.

Things you're out of control in the car world. But this list is not there's much more expensive

stuff than this. You think so? Yeah. Pagani's exist. Well, it's not my list. Talk to Sean.

Sean. You fucked up. Dude. Man. Call me. My Irish brother. Yeah. Sean. It's spiked out of

in here. I'm here with Jerry McWire from Jay. Get your nose out to the Guinness boy. You're

fucking up. You're fucked at all. You're fucking idiot. Anyway, we also talked last week about

Suckerman. You have this new alpha. Yes. Right? 67 GTB. 1750. Okay. And what did I do? I called you

over the week earlier in the week because Hagerty had reached out to me. This fellow Larry Webster

puts out this list of cars to invest in the next year. You know, Larry Webster's all too well.

One of the cars on his list is that car. And he sent us a message. He sent you a message. Really?

Just a quick message. Larry, hold your headphones on. Hey, Spike, Larry Webster here from Hagerty.

The 2026 bull market list is out now. And the list features 11 cars that are poised for growth.

You can see the whole thing on Hagerty YouTube or Hagerty.com slash media or the newest issue of

the driver's club magazine. Now, one car on that list that might be a particular interest to Paul

is the early out for a Mayo GTV. Wow, a great timing. That's a fantastic choice. And I think he's

really going to enjoy the car. I hear it's a fabulous spec. Now, those early GTVs are really

special machines, right? They're light. They got a revvy and tough engine, nicely balanced. And

boy, they're just gorgeous. That classic genre of shape has never stopped looking good.

So why did the car make the cut this year? Well, demand is rising. Excellent cars are getting

harder to find. And price is just having caught up with how special those cars are. Now,

just to give you an example, Porsche 912, there were thousands more, which seems to us that the

Alphas have been overlooked. In any case, there are just not too many Italian sports cars with that

era that you can still call a bargain. So anyway, thanks for having me, Spike. Enjoy that car, Paul.

Well, thank you, Larry. That's a very kind message. Isn't that nice? Yes, very

nice. Don't you feel you were feeling that you had maybe overspent on that car? I did.

But you always do to buy the best of the best. Yes, and I did. But here they are.

I like this little list that he puts up. Hey, you are endorsing my decision.

It was just coincidence. I had happened to see this list. They had happened to reach out.

And then one of your cars was on the list, and I thought it would help you go that far.

Super genius. Whatever it was in a while, you're lucky. Yes, that's true, too.

And that maybe you bought something. And then Larry confirms it that it's a Larry Hath

Spoken. Not that we buy cars that we care about money that much, but it is nice to know that maybe

you could make some money. I know. Okay, I don't think Alphas is going to take off suddenly.

I do. I agree with you. Who's fixing these things? Don't we have friends downtown that have

an alpha shop? Yeah, but when it comes to alpha holics, right? Right.

My friend Conrad and Berkeley will search out. Oh, okay. Conrad Conrad and Berkeley.

That's my point. He's the master. Yes. Well, what happened when you sent it to Jerry and the

tech's thread? He lost his mind, right? He loves this. This has got him frothy. Can I make

another prediction? You're going to sell it to him. And he's going to want it. And you're going

to make a little money. Jerry, you'll get out of it. Jerry could buy every 67 GTV on Earth. Yes.

It's more or less than accept this one. Why does he love this one? Because he doesn't have his

argument. Because it's blue because it's got a blue and brown. And the condition of

originally not show him the pictures. This is all you need to see right there. No, yeah, I get

it. Spectacular, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, there you go. Now Paul, we talked to you about

like a 1948 alpha man. No, no, I'm going to catch that when it's down to like $80,000

speed. They're not far off. Why would you want something old and Italian like that? It's so

beautiful. They're just pull up that car so we can look at it. You want like a 19. It's like,

yeah, it's like a, it's like a cloud. What do they call it? They're called like 2600.

Yes. Yeah. It's like a 1948 alpha 2600. The blue one. Blue. That's it. Oh, wow. And the

interiors are better than the exteriors. And they're just all bake a light and potato chips.

Yes. Everything ready to break. Yeah. Bake a light. So, okay, to me, this is what I

feel car interior. I love the post-war alpha interiors. They're just the best and the gorgeous cars.

And they had their moment. They were, they were kind of thinking people were thinking these

might go big. These might go up or six figures, seven figures, but they are now falling. The

enthusiasts are, but how, what kind of engine does this have? It is a great engine. What is that?

That's a six cylinder. It's the same as a pre-war one. It's, you know, it's a great engine.

I like the couches and you like that cigarette ash tray. I like that strap behind it.

Cam, bottom right corner, second one in, yeah, right there. Yeah, baby. And again, it's just,

are they all right hand drive? No, they're very fewer right hand drive. They're all left hand drive.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, in, in, in, in the media post-war up till 1950, most were right

hand drive in my opinion. Yes. Almost every one I've ever seen is right hand drive. I judged one

of the Audrey and those are lefty. Wow. Well, that's why it was there. It was the only lefty.

No, it's always there. How did you judge it? Did you judge it? Well, we judged it well.

With his pastrami fingers all over that bag of light. Let me oil the bag of light.

Yeah, yeah, oh, look, it's stuck in and burns. Oh, yes.

I just think they're fantastic. Yeah, this is gorgeous. And how expensive are these cars?

I think you could get maybe a little bit more, but yes, there were times that they were like,

I saw six, seven, fifty, about seven, ten years ago. And now they're coming down.

Wow. Yeah. But again, for the price of a base 9-11, you could have this. That never runs.

Yeah. Or never runs. Right. Yeah. That's the problem. That's the thing. I think,

Zacharmony, you would buy this and never drive it and it would disappear any year.

Well, then that's the thing about Porsche's. You can get them serviced. You can get them running

right. Does it network? I'm speaking more about your driving habits. Yes. I just, you know,

we all observe each other's driving habits. You see what we drive and what we don't drive.

I've seen you buy cars that are beautiful like this. And then they just sit here and then you

sell the launcher, the launcher. There's been many. Yes. Currently, the Jaguar. Well,

no, that's, that's the freaking home area. It's supposed to get that fixed and it does not.

And I'm going to have to, we're going to have to make cool. I'll shout at him.

He is not coming through on the project. He helped on the 420. He did a good job on the 420.

But this is a one of the things, but this Jag is been waiting. I have the parts. I have the

transmission. I've purchased everything and I'm waiting for care. I don't want you to disappear.

You got to be careful how you come at the Hungarian. The Hungarian will make you disappear.

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the, you know, I've had a run of flat tires, three or four of them, two of them on the Tesla and

other cars. The Bronco gets a flat with the giant possible, which is 37, whatever the hell it's on.

Coming back from tennis at nine o'clock at night and the palisades just pitch black. And I'm looking

at suddenly dang it. I'm like, that can't be. I've got the little exclamation point. This is big

knobby tires. Roll the window down. I hear some like, damn, I'm watching it tick down, 35, 34,

racing to get to the house, racing to get to. Always speed up when your tire pressure is going

down. No, and you're right. You're right. I was having a man on the twist in turns of sunset.

And I'm getting. Yes. No broken neck. I was very conscious of it, but I had to weigh like,

you're exactly right. Do I go, does the rim, the tire come up the rim and do I roll? Or do I get

home? So I'm not stuck on the side of the road on a foggy night and I don't and I'm tired after

playing tennis. Get to the driveway. I look, there's a giant razor. You know, not like a razor blade

like this, but the long ones for like a box cutter, a box cutter, but a really stiff one had just

sliced. That's insane. It doesn't make sense. How it did in the road. I know how it gets in the road.

This falls off the back of a truck. But it's not coming when you look, you can look at the tires on

this thing. They're big chunky pieces to get. And somehow it just went right through them and

sliced open was sticking out like a finger like that. It was like on the tread. It wasn't like in

the sidewalk. It was, but it went between the tread like here, like home. Oh, my goodness. Like

this. Yes. And impossibly sliced through right, right into it. That's wild. I yanked it out

all the air went out. Now here's, you know, again, this is just a plug for triple A. I was beat.

I was sore. I didn't want to take the spare and jack up my car in the dark in my driveway.

So I, I texted a triple A through the app. They were there in like 15 minutes. It's nice

guys shows up. Nothing to do because I'll put it on. He put it on in 15 minutes. I put on the

spare. Again, you're like, okay, triple A. I would never think to do that. However,

the, if you don't have, if you don't have a, if you don't have a floor jack, if you had to use,

I don't have the big floor. If you had to use whatever's in the Bronco, like a triple A,

because whatever's in the Bronco, well, I helped the guy. I worked with him. I thought this

is fun. I'm gonna, can I help? Yeah, because like your, your car, he said no on the last day.

That was the right answer. Let me do a couple of things. I want to do a couple of things here.

We've had guys help. I've had, no, I was very conscious of that. Yeah, yeah. I've had clients that

have been enlisted to help the triple A guy. Oh, yeah, not good. Then the next day, the next day,

I'm driving the damn thing and I hear suspension noise vibrating from underneath. Like every time

I go, I'm like, oh my god, I just got this back from service. What am I going to do? He and I,

Jack first and comes home, like drive this back and forth across the driveway. And I go, okay,

it's front left. I go under and there's this piece of suspension and a nut like that just

that it loosened up. And I got under the car and wrenched. I wrenched and tightened it up. You

shouldn't be doing that. But, but I fixed it. I agree. That's supposed to torque that. Look,

what I was saying is, how many miles are on that? Like none? Like 9,000. 9,000. You should have

been making driveway repairs. I know, but I felt so good after I fixed that. Like anybody who

complains out there that I don't wrench, I wrenched, I took a wrench and I wrenched on my Bronco and I fixed

it. Right. I'm yelling at Ford here. I knew you did the right thing. Look, Ford did the wrong

thing. You're not wrong that these trucks are a little cheap. You're not wrong that the Bronco had,

I think the record for the most recalls this year, right? Oh, yeah. Well,

hasu. Yeah. It doesn't interfere with my love for you. I love it. No longer job number one.

Remember that? I can't for Ford job. Okay, here's another one. By the way, and I hate having to

bring up stuff from last week's show. But last week's show continues to bleed into this week's show,

with this story from our friends at Waymo, a woman in Los Angeles orders a self-driving Waymo for her

daughter and discovers headphones guys, a man in the hatchback. Are you in the trunk? That's why

I'm trying to figure this out. Why are you in it? They just put in it. Who'll push you in? Don't

what? I'm like, that's what I'm asking. That's what I'm saying. Just wow.

What? So she's trying to send her daughter somewhere who's a minor and there's a crazy man

in the back. No, no, last week is you recall. Yeah, document. I was defending Waymo and telling you

how much I love Waymo. You were on the other side of it, right? Then there's this story and I'm like,

okay, this one I had I was running between this hanger and my hangered Santa Monica airport and I

got into a Waymo last week. And the car immediately went in the wrong direction. Good. It immediately

went instead of coming this way. It went towards the water and you go, you say it loud. What are you

doing when there's no one there? It eventually a half mile going the wrong way does a U turn and

starts coming the other way. It then comes by this hanger. I won't say the street and then keeps

going. It doesn't it misses the turn and I have to swipe it. And what I've learned is just like a

cab driver's there's idiot Waymo cars like some of the cars are idiots and some aren't. I learned

a trick. What? If you want to talk to a human when you're in your waymo. Yes, I shouldn't say

this, but just grab the steering wheel. Just lean forward and tug it. Oh yeah, yeah, really all the

cameras come on and immediately. What's good? Do you need assistance? You know who did that? Your

brother. Your little brother did that. Yeah, I tried to. But it's for assistance. You're for fun.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Waymo is wafering now now. You can't play waymo for a creeper.

The driver to get the fuck out of here. So let's say he's silent and he lays down there and the

little girl gets in the car. Now there's this weirdo in the back. And then what she's going to do

grab the wheel. Yeah, what happens? He goes to people. The people put me in. What is he talking about?

What is he saying? He's a rapist spike. That's what he's saying. He's yeah, what people put you

in the back of the waymo. Yeah, I hope this is true. I hope this is true. This is a true story.

No, it is a true story. No, no, no, it's not really good. This is really good. And you know,

by the way, I've never I've never had to use the hatch in a waymo. I don't know how that works

when you get in. Like, I don't know. Can you just open the back? And I guess if you have

luggage, I've never had that situation. Let's say you're traveling with a homeless man that you

want to put up. Okay. You have to click the app or just grab the handle. You have the handle.

You would also think there'd be. No, I guess not. Do you think Uber put this guy? That's those

are the people. It's a plan. It's a plan. It's a full-flag operation. You know, it's funny.

You say that, Tuckerman, because right outside on the way here today, did you see the big billboard

at the end of the street? No, no. There's a giant billboard that says there have been 125

sexual assaults or something by Uber drivers in the last year. Only one attempt to do

evil. We are watching a science, a science campaign. So far. What?

Maybe we can. Maybe. Why is Jerry McWire? Hey, Mr. McWire, we need to go over and we need a

campaign to put Waymo out of beasties. Do you want to be in a more comfortable environment

when you're sexually assaulting people? Why does it have to be that waymo? Well, it's a

jaguar. I mean, it's a nice car. I'm confused. Yeah, but I suspect there is a war going on here.

I think there could be. Now I'm part of the conspiracy theory that these two companies

are popular. Waymo really is the end of Uber, if it works. It works. The problem is the end of people.

That's really my argument. That's who cares about that. Oh, okay. It's not going to stop.

Interesting. You know, I told you okay. I'll be real quick. Let's get nuclear reactors in

cars. I don't know. I do that review. I want to review an autonomy and AI day. One of the things

or something is about in like 2028. The R2 with the LiDAR will be able to operate as a personal

level for a vehicle. So you could be like home on the couch, be like take him somewhere. Yeah,

take my kid to soccer practice. Then swim by the grocery store. Get me groceries. Pick him up when

he's done with soccer. Come back. Yeah. And you're on the couch. And it'll just it'll just and

you said, but can you ask it to sexually assault somebody? Will it take over that doesn't

human does have a genetic AI? So that's an agent and agent who works on your behalf. So yes,

you could. That is a really cool idea. I mean, I totally see it. No, it's hard. But I'm going back

to what you said before. Forget that. But the idea that and you're right, I can get you're

connecting the technology like it starts with Waymo, but eventually it comes to us and now these

cars can do our bidding and do our work for. I love that idea. I bought a new TV and it's sitting

in a warehouse in the valley. I just have not had a moment to go down and pick it up. And if I

could like, Hey, truck, just go get the TV. Yes, come back. That would be great. This is a

we further atomize. Let's just go back to living in caves separately. No, but it's a further

animal. It's just the old man case. Yeah. No, no, no, no. And you embrace technology and brace it.

It's going to happen. And do you like it or not? You can complain about it, but it's it's going to

happen. I'm just saying, oh, not all technology is a solution. That that is the problem that

you personally look, turns into cyberdying systems and kills us all. That's going to be awesome.

Yes. Yeah. Cameron was saying people were also putting Molotov cocktails in Waymo's and sending

them to places to burn, right? When was that happening? In the riots for LA people were ordering Waymo's

to light on fire. They're sending them somewhere. You could or you could just do riots. You mean

that three block area? Yeah, but I mean, I listen to the real riots. Like that rules riots weren't

shit. Yeah. But that was a little theater. Yeah. You could order a Waymo and you know, do anything

you want to do. You can also drive a car or do anything you want. Sure. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm fascinated by everything that's happening right now, but entertained by this one. I really

was just good. I do. I do want to know what the hell happened here. Like, I'd like to see five

years into the future. But do you see what I mean? Like, let's say somebody orders a Waymo. Yeah.

And Captain Crazy here is like, I'm going to go for the ride. At what point did he, how did he

get in this thing? How did no one notice it? It must have been somehow he got the trunk open

and climbed in and shut it when no one was there or when someone was there. Or maybe like, you know,

I don't want to stay locked until you press a button on your app when you order it. People do have to

put luggage in the back if they're going to go to the airport. So that would mean he ordered it.

No, somebody else probably maybe somebody was disembarking somewhere had to open up the back.

This is a good. This is a good experiment. Yeah. That's true. That could have happened.

You could have jumped in all time of opportunity. Also, talk about someone for our green room.

The Waymo creep. I'd like to try to become the Waymo creep. I want to see if you could order it.

Get into the back and then see if it would travel with you in the trunk.

Then would you get arrested? No, no, no, no. I'm like, it would be terrible.

He's researching trouble. Yeah.

Anyway, also from last week's show, Johnny, we didn't really spend much time on it,

but I wanted to get your take on this new GRGT. Okay, yeah. What do you think? You excited about this?

Yeah, of course. Any new pull this car up to you. Any new massive horsepower sports car,

supercar, I'm in favor of all of them. I like them all. A priori. I like them before they exist.

Yeah, look at that. It's super cool. It's kind of like the old AMG GT where you

look like you're sitting on the rear axle, so that's kind of a unique type of steering.

Yeah, I think it's great. More of this. Why not?

And so, why do they have a GT3 version and this version? It's one a street and one just.

The GT3 is going to compete in, you know, in IMSA and WAC and all that. And then this will be

the street car. And then they also showed the Lexus, which is going to be full electric,

be the LFA replacement, which I think actually looks a little bit better.

This, to me, is kind of like Toyota mixed with an Audi. Right. Just the, the schnauz. But I,

hey, I'm again, I'm in favor. I saw one of these driving around in camera really up in

Angeles, Crasson. Look, bitch. It's not as big a person. It's super big, but it's low.

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Volkswagen. Number three, Ford. Really? Two million ahead of GM. I think you're looking at domestically.

And number four is BYD. They're pretty much tied with Ford. Okay. You know, if you look at

Volkswagen Ford and BYD, they're all close. Okay. But BYD is there. And then surprisingly,

Hyundai. After that. Hyundai's doing great. And where's GM in this?

Here's what's remarkable. Suzuki is on this list. How? India. India. Suzuki is the best selling car

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Chevy made it. Chevy is part of GM. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Mercedes is there. And then

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All right. Let's talk about this episode's car. This beautiful 356 right here,

that you've owned for how long? What are we looking at here? 1950, what, what? This is a 1951 356

four-digit car. Is this one of those bent windows? This is a split windows. So everything

goes ahead. So everything else you own, this car is perfect. So if we go back through the

mists of time to the beginning of Porsche. Okay. As you know, maybe not that far back.

Yes. That's not going to have to go back to the not to go. Please.

That's a good yes. Very good leave of it. So we know that Porsche began making prototypes

in Good Moon to Austria. They did that from about 1948 to 1950. In 1950, they decided to take

the plunge and they said, we will build 500 of these 356s. They got together enough materials and

enough parts and they got permission from the Americans to reoccupy their own factory

to make these 500 cars. And at the last minute, the Korean War broke out and the American said,

you can't have your factory. We need this factory and Porsche went to Reuter, which is why you see

that Reuter badge on the other side of the road. Oh, I didn't know that. So Porsche said they rented

the Reuter factory and they were set out to build the first 500 cars and their estimates were

it would be a success if they built and sold those cars by 1956. And so this is one of the last

of the run and it and and Porsche was so modest about their prospects that they only put four

digits in the VIN number five for the for the code. And then they had basically 999 cars that

they could use in this VIN in this series. So this is number 5511. And it's probably around the

470th 356 regular production 356 built. So this is the first run of production 356s and you see

how pure this style is. Perfect. Right. You've got the body bumpers. You've got that little bulge

in the in the front of the nose. The hood spear is very small and delicate to lift the hood up.

You cannot put your hand or your fingers through there to to grasp it. The traffic indicators are

perfect. The traffic indicators are perfect. There are a little onboard b-hives. There are no horn vents

there. So if you do beep the horn, which you don't get much of a horn from six volts,

you get this little strangled mullet noise. Should we take a look inside there? Yeah.

You open the door and show us what it looks like inside. So it's, uh, wow.

Oh, just hold right there. Look how beautiful that is. Yeah, it's got, well silver and blue is

you know, it makes me crazy. Like I'm vibrating right now. That's weird. So you'll see in these very,

very early cars. This has a very early dashboard, which you'll notice does not have any

gauges, not an oil gauge, not a fuel gauge. There is there's only a speedometer. There's not even

any uh, tackometer. So, so we're looking at a, I think that's a clock and a tack. That's a clock

and a tack and a radio. Yes, it's a, uh, funk, California radio. And if you look at what you can

dial in, those are cities that are listed, including the Vatican. You can tune into the Vatican

where you don't have it. Yes, sit in here. Uh, what do you get nowadays when you turn it on?

You know, you do get some AM. You don't get the Vatican. Uh, you get Hitler talking to you.

I want my penis back. Those, those little radios that everybody got. Oh, yes, yes, yes,

do you want it? Do you want to zoom in on the radio again and put a little of the fuel in?

And we'd like to jack just just hold right there and everyone be quiet and we'll see if we can

get Hitler. Okay, remove your hand. Listen. Yes, there you go. That's an authentic.

Leather is strong. So wait, can I? Okay, turn that off.

But going back to the cities on the radio and you may not know this, what,

so radios were radio is broadcast from city to city. Is that how I don't understand what that means?

Okay, so, so cities would, they didn't have really national networks. So just like we had in the

States, they certain, certain, uh, like a ABC or CBS, uh, certain channels were awarded.

And they were usually centered in a city in a city. So if you were touring and driving,

you'd get to that city and then you could turn to that city and wear the one radio station.

Yeah, that's the key point is there was one radio station. Yeah, post-war Germany, everything's

destroyed. They got, there's no real, you know, free market economy hasn't really rode back yet.

So this, yeah, there's not three channels. Yeah, three stations. And you'll see that there's

Rome on there. I think there's Paris on there. Yeah, that's cool. Well, that's really neat.

And it was six volts. It's incredibly, it's incredibly small. A little sound comes through.

What's cool about this is you really drive this car. I've seen you daily this car and drive it to work.

You drive these things more than, uh, see, this is what I was saying about that alpha. Yeah,

you're not going to drive that alpha. But, you know, you, you actually move these cars between

your house and work all week. And I, here's what I enjoy. So you find it usable. It's very usable.

It is, if we were to compare this to the 65, it's, it's night and day. This is so primitive. Yeah,

yeah, this is so such basic transportation. What they could cobble together between parts that they

were getting from Volkswagen and their sister company. So the, the engine is, is, you, it's got a

Porsche case that's got some VW internals. Uh, the transmission, the shifter is VW. Uh, but it's

got a 1300. These cars started out with an 1100 CC engine. This is a 1300, which is later

production. It's about 48 horsepower. That's a non synchro shifter. And that's what I really

own all years, all years, all the pain in the ass. So it's a crash box. Yeah. And what I

particularly enjoy is it's, it was really no one to teach me how to, how to drive this thing.

And it took me quite a long time to master the art of downshifting. Yeah, but it still takes you,

you have to be in the right RPM ranges. You have to really get to know the engine and the shifter

and exactly how when you're, when you're double clutching, the second time that you're engaging,

the clutch is when you want to be engaging the gear. Yeah. It's a, it's a very, uh, there's a

process that, that at a timing that you have to engage in. But if I enjoy it, there's more torque

than horsepower in this engine. You, so it does get, it does, it has a little scoot to it,

has a little go. Very thin tires. Uh, if you want to, do you want to, Johnny, you want to pop

the rear so we can show the engine before we go? Yeah. As before we wrap it up, and you will

so no one yells at me for not showing the engine, the most important part of the car to you,

girls who need to see the engine of every car. There you go. Look at those little air cleaners

on either side. Oh, that's nice. Little teeny sorcerers and it's got the firewall is vinyl

clad. What's that? Show that to the camera. This was on the fan belt. What?

Wait, what? It was right here. Just, just laying there. Yeah. What is that?

No, I know what they are, but who left those there? Dennis, I'm, I'm flabbergasted. The last person

that may have worked on this car was the Hungarian because Hungarian again, again. So I broke down

on Robertson Boulevard and I called the Hungarian and he happened to be a block away. Yes.

And what the problem with the car, the points were bad and he was able right there on Robertson

Boulevard to open the distributor, take the points out, scrape the points and, and get them

to function again. It was emergency surgery and I'm assuming that in the midst of that emergency

surgery, he left his very long, large needle nose pliers. So here it is. We found this.

We're reviewing the car. We've talked about the Hungarian. And I told you, I love the Hungarian.

I think he's, he's wonderful. He's able to work in gray areas. He's fantastic.

Occasionally, there are Hungarian problems. If you look at the size of this thing,

I'm sure you've had cases where someone's had surgery and this in the human body. We just found

this in the automotive body. What are you going to do, counselor? I'm going to call the Hungarian

tell him that I want to return these and place them in his body the way he placed this in the body

of my car. And he can walk around for a couple of months with this in his right by his heart,

right? His motor. I get to say, I'm shocked, but I'm also impressed. This is what I love about

Porsche's. They just work even with this grinding against the fan belt. It worked fine. How long

have you been driving this car for a couple of weeks? Yeah. I'm really, really shocked that

you didn't hear it. I never, there was no banging. There was no knocking. It was kind of,

I shouldn't have grabbed it so quick, but I was like, what the hell is that? But it was kind of

wedged. It might have been, it might have actually been not the belt that was getting it, but there's

a big nut that holds the, the whole of the wheel. I am telling you, this is fantastic. Last week you

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hit us everywhere, as well as car collectors. They come in swarms. They always have. And here's yet

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lot. And you know when we when we were doing these we were supposed to launch. I think we're only making

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There are only 50 of them that were selling them I think for 900 and change. We could have sold

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seized an ultra rare 2002 Mercedes CLK GTR Roadster worth 13 million dollars. Yeah, this is

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this. Don't sell drugs kids. So this is an Olympics. You're super car. He's not a current Olympic

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works? Well, I don't know. I think accused. I don't know. I don't know if he's been convinced.

Alleged. The legacy. So it was seized as part of an investigation into Ryan James wedding, the former

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You know, of course, there are only about I think 28 of these cars and they've appreciated greatly.

And now everybody wants to know when can we buy it? Like, does this get auctioned off by the government?

Yeah, it does. Remember our friend Bruce Meyer got a Ferrari this way. He did. Which Ferrari?

His GT 250. Yeah, yeah, it's short wheelbase. If I do believe that he was able to. But that's

a Lamon winner. That's 61 to 50. I do believe I'm not exactly sure which one I know. Lamon winner's

traffic drugs. I do recall one of his one of his priced cars was a government auction.

Well, that was going to lead me in my next question. Is it worth looking at these cars ever?

These government options? Yes. So real quick, this car, I've sat in one of these. Yeah, they

are literally impossible to get in and out of it. The sill is so big. Well, look at you can see it.

Look at see how the door only comes halfway down the side. It is. I remember I was in Bahrain and with

my friend Moe and Moe said, oh my god. I sit in it. And he goes, yeah, good luck. And he got

like scrambling in. But how do they drive? Who knows? But so he sat in it, but he didn't drive it.

But he was going. He's like, it's the worst date night car ever. Like in a woman in and of that

in a dress as impossible. Well, of course. Yeah. So they could dress off. Oh, yeah. I also got

in the hard top. It's even harder because you're really like hunched over. But you know what happens

when you open the front boot? There you go. Find one of these in it. Right. Yeah, they're pretty

slick looking. But it is funny that guys think. And I would get I would guess, you know, at one

point I fell into this category of you buy special cars and you can't wait to take your wife or

girlfriend out for you realize this is this is not for that kind of use. I learned that lesson

very early, like when the new son GTR came. Yeah, sort of dating my wife. Yeah, I did a launch

control. And I go, what do you think? She goes, it's loud and bumpy. Yeah, like we're not taking

that car already. Yeah, I don't want to go in that car. You know what car works really well for

that is that 79 525. That's all that car. A popular car. The 420 SL. Yes. What it's a light. What

it's a light? Cars that are floaty down the road easy to get in and out of great seats. Yes.

Clancy looking. But there is a portion of the partner, the partners that don't like these things.

And then they're I'm sure there are those out there who love it. Yeah, I should say my wife does

drive my Toyota, you know, which is 10 times stiffer than a GTR everywhere. She loves it. She's

like small little fast things. Wow. Unlike you. That's right. There you go. I like trucks.

One more thing before we go. Grant Larson, our friend is retiring from Porsche.

No. That's right. He designed the Carrera GT and the Boxster, right?

Right. And then six and then I interviewed him for an hour or two days ago.

Yeah. Two days ago. Three days ago. Yeah. Did he talk about his retirement?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's not retiring. He's just don't say that. He's he's going to be involved

consulting with special special wishes. And he seemed to indicate that I knew a person who's

getting a car. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, here's the statement put out by Porsche. At the end of 2025,

Porsche's director of special project designs will retire in their own words.

Porsche says the Porsche newsroom. And they took a lot of look back at his remarkable career. We

love this guy. We love the Boxster, the Carrera GT. He's hung out with us. He's told us the

stories of like the last minute shaving of clay and everything with the cars. And I just wanted

to acknowledge Grant. Grant, thank you for everything you've done for Porsche. Really. Above and beyond.

And some great cars that will live beyond. I got a 9,000 word interview with him going out.

Well, for what? For Motor Trend. There you go. Yeah. I didn't know you were still part of Motor Trend.

Still part of Motor Trend. I do everything. Very well. That's our show. We've done a fine show.

Next week, we have Matt Ferrer. I think in addition, we're going to do a Festivist episode up. And

that people want us to do Festivist here, though. Should we do a Festivist episode here for

Feats of Strength? Or should we do the audio Festivist? I kind of like audio Festivist.

Audio Festivist and Festivist. Yeah. For Patreon. Yeah. For Patreon. Yeah.

You'll tear your penis. And if you're a Patreon subscriber, thank you for supporting us.

We really appreciate it. And we're going to do a cool down lap right now and talk about a street

brawl in Man Tucket with some cool video. Let's suck them into praise this fight.

And I'm going to give you a little perspective on why this happened. Anyway, we'll see you next week.

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