00:00
We can't just be one foot in.
00:01
This particular situation turned into a shit show.
00:03
For him to go through all the things
00:05
that he's gone through, that is not easy.
00:07
This was at my house, and my wife
00:08
was operating that excavator.
00:10
She'd be laughing her a** off.
00:11
We will be doing a live happy hour show.
00:15
I have been so excited.
00:16
Caitlin is so giddy about this.
00:29
Welcome to Kevin Harvick's happy hour.
00:31
Presented by Nascar Unbox.
00:33
She's Caitlin Benzzi, and we're still mama.
00:37
He just said, New England.
00:40
OK, well listen, you might as well
00:41
walk in the pages, but because you're the New England guy
00:44
who went over the weekend, so it's just going to keep going.
00:46
I'm so confused on what day it is.
00:50
My schedule is in complete chaos.
00:56
Kevin, so this is his moving attire.
00:58
Is that what you were doing earlier today?
00:59
Well, we were moving boxes today,
01:01
so I just figured I'd wear this today.
01:03
Did you guys wake up today and think, oh yeah,
01:06
Daytona's in two weeks, and then I
01:08
have to remember that it's actually like.
01:10
Yeah, we're leaving in less than a year.
01:12
I was driving home last night, and I was thinking to myself,
01:15
I'm like, oh, Sunday.
01:18
And then I realized that Piper had to go to school.
01:21
I had to go to the gym.
01:22
I mean, it's just you're in the middle of the week,
01:24
but when you go to the racetrack, your brain is trained.
01:27
It's Saturday, or it's Sunday.
01:30
And Wednesday just totally screwed me up.
01:31
At least Piper is in school.
01:34
My kids have been home for almost like two weeks,
01:36
because of the snow.
01:38
And I've had to be a teacher, which I realized,
01:40
I forgot to tell time on an old clock.
01:43
She was learning about clocks.
01:44
And I'm like, I don't remember even how to do this.
01:49
That's pretty funny.
01:50
Yeah, well, it's even better with Piper.
01:51
She's in the middle of learning all of her states.
01:53
You want to test your, am I smarter than a third grader?
01:59
How many did you get?
02:00
Well, I can get them all now.
02:03
I can get them all now.
02:04
Yeah, it's been interesting, but yeah.
02:07
You didn't go out to the class.
02:08
You said you were cozyed up in your house.
02:09
I was inside cheering you guys on.
02:12
I was texting Josh Sims when I saw him.
02:14
So Josh, obviously he had his hat on and his gloves.
02:17
I'm like, Josh, you're making us look bad.
02:19
He got Jamie's out here, raw dog in the weather
02:21
and the elements and he's like, bro, it is not.
02:23
It wasn't worth it.
02:25
I knew we were in trouble when we walked up
02:26
in the wardrobe room and there were beanies,
02:30
down jackets, gloves, hand warmers.
02:32
And I learned something that there are actually lap warmers.
02:37
And it's like a heated blanket.
02:39
I told you guys last week I came in and showed you
02:41
exactly what you needed for the race.
02:42
You did, you did say.
02:44
It was fine in the booth.
02:45
Yeah. Kevin was nice and cozy in there.
02:48
From the time we started practice
02:49
until the time when the race was over,
02:50
I didn't know it was going to be like six hours.
02:53
But it was, it might have been longer than that.
02:56
It was good to hear you guys back on the tube.
02:58
The good news there.
02:59
Yeah. It was good to kind of get back in rhythm.
03:02
You know, the short tracks are actually
03:04
the hardest things to do on those little tracks
03:07
because you can't get long-winded and tell stories
03:09
like you can at Daytona or a mile and a half
03:11
because so much stuff was happening
03:14
that you had to be pretty brief about your thoughts.
03:17
And it's hard to circle back
03:18
and finish those stories sometimes
03:20
because so much happens in between that you forget.
03:22
So those little tracks are actually
03:25
some of the hardest places to do.
03:28
Well, you guys did a good job.
03:29
And welcome in to another edition of happy hour.
03:32
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03:36
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03:38
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03:40
You guys know the deal.
03:45
It's going to be all year.
03:48
Today is our first edition of The Sips.
03:53
We didn't do them yet.
03:54
No, I know what it is.
03:55
I'll just check it on you guys.
03:56
Your first sippy sips of the year.
03:59
We have an exciting announcement for everybody
04:01
because in Daytona,
04:02
we will be doing a live happy hour show.
04:06
I have been so excited.
04:08
Katelyn is so giddy about it.
04:12
What's all this new again?
04:13
You get to have a live audience on stage.
04:17
So it's Thursday, February 12th
04:19
at the NASCAR Fan Experience at three o'clock.
04:21
It's free for all the fans.
04:22
That's when the doors are opening
04:23
so you guys can all come and hang out with us.
04:26
See Kevin Harvick in the flesh.
04:29
And mama's going to stay afterwards and sign autographs.
04:32
So he'll be right there.
04:33
I have to go to my next,
04:35
my next gig at that time,
04:37
but you're there as long as needed.
04:40
Kevin said he's dropping off beer.
04:42
So I come on with it.
04:44
Let's toss a few back.
04:45
He did mention there could be some beer.
04:47
The best wholesaler and one of the best wholesalers
04:49
in the country right down there.
04:51
This is exciting though,
04:52
because we have talked about it for a while
04:54
that we wanted to do potentially a remote,
04:56
a live show on the road.
04:58
Mostly you, but yes.
05:00
Well, the reason is back when I worked at Speed Channel,
05:03
those were such neat environments.
05:04
Being right with the fans and they get to be a part of it.
05:07
There's just a totally different energy that comes with it.
05:09
So I'm very excited.
05:10
We're going to do this.
05:11
And if you follow the show and don't show up,
05:14
we're going to block you.
05:15
So, so simple as that.
05:17
You need to find out who you are.
05:18
We've got digital images of all your faces
05:20
and we're going to use them.
05:21
I am pretty excited because back when I was a kid
05:23
watching like Kenny Wallace and all that
05:26
and that whole group, the OGs and now John Roberts.
05:30
They all were just it just really brought the sport together
05:34
because there's something else to be excited about.
05:36
Obviously we're excited about the racing,
05:37
but excited about all the stories and your favorite characters
05:40
and cast up there at school.
05:41
Well, I mean, it's it's speed week.
05:43
So, you know, we're leading into the biggest race of the year
05:46
and thank goodness are we have a great partner in Fox
05:50
that is allowing us to do stuff like this
05:52
and leaning into being a part of the event.
05:57
Y'all need to come out with those.
05:58
I want to see signs.
06:00
I want to see signs.
06:01
Kevin Harvick standups.
06:02
Yeah, the whole thing.
06:03
Bring the whole thing.
06:05
You guys remember it.
06:06
Yeah, let's bring it back.
06:09
Hopefully Keelan's Keelan's first view of doesn't.
06:15
That legendary story.
06:17
The legendary story.
06:18
The people in Florida are not the same as the people in Watkins Glen.
06:21
It is really warm there, though.
06:23
It means shedding layers.
06:25
If I was in Watkins Glen right now, I'd want to be in Florida.
06:28
Yeah, but I don't think they'd be just dropping them out like that.
06:31
No, you never know.
06:33
To be determined what we may see, but make sure you join us again.
06:36
It's at three o'clock on Thursday before Daytona in the fan zone.
06:40
NASCAR fan experience stage.
06:42
You're not going to want to miss it.
06:45
Free entertainment.
06:46
Everybody likes free.
06:50
So now we can talk about the clash and you get to take over from here.
06:55
Guys, you guys know we've been doing this for like two years now.
06:58
And now that Fox is back at the helm of the show, it's word of the week.
07:05
Let's get it going.
07:05
Kevin had a great one this time.
07:07
Let's see what Kevin's word of the week was at the clash.
07:20
So that was the 23.
07:21
Bubba Wallace and the 97.
07:24
Yeah, as far as he can be a bit of a commudgion as he gets underneath and puts
07:30
So you see Bubba, not happy with him right there.
07:33
Gives him a little bit of a break check, slams into the door.
07:40
Tough in the back of the field tonight.
07:43
Mike, we have a bunch more to say about that.
07:46
The word went right by Mike this week.
07:48
So maybe he thinks my vocabulary is better than it actually is.
07:52
You said that you are not telling them anymore, right?
07:56
Look, I have to lean on my joy sometimes
07:57
if I get a word that I don't understand.
08:00
This week I used AI, so I have a new assistant.
08:05
And I think it's gonna be better to just have those words
08:08
pop up on the broadcast and them not know about it.
08:10
I can tell Clint, but he never pays attention to me anyway.
08:13
So if I tell him, he's probably not gonna remember,
08:15
but it'll be better for them to realize the words naturally.
08:21
That was the perfect place to put it in though.
08:23
It was, that was the easiest word yet.
08:25
You wouldn't have known that was gonna happen though.
08:27
The hard part about putting the word into the broadcast
08:31
is you never know when that moment is going to come.
08:35
And they ran each other over like 785 times this week.
08:39
So I knew at some moment there was gonna be
08:42
somebody that was pissed off like Suarez was
08:44
and we were gonna play it on the radio.
08:46
So that was a good one.
08:47
Yeah, it's a warm up, it's just getting going by now.
08:50
So you came up with that one
08:51
or is that one the driver submitted?
08:53
That was yours truly.
08:55
Oh, we have a list from the drivers.
08:58
I haven't seen this list yet.
08:59
Well, I think Bob asked them.
09:01
Yeah, I'm excited to see this list.
09:04
We needed to be track relevant again.
09:08
I knew that that one specifically was gonna work
09:10
because they were gonna get pissed off at each other.
09:12
And at some point it was gonna be just really easy.
09:14
Did you have to study to find that word?
09:16
Well, actually, over the off season our closers...
09:21
Well, somebody submitted on X or Twitter, whatever,
09:24
like a bunch of cool words
09:25
and the closers started tagging me.
09:28
Like probably like 25 people tagged me in the same post.
09:30
I'm like, I'll save this for you guys.
09:31
So I pulled it off for that one, cool.
09:33
Nice, fans weighing in, I like it.
09:36
We have quite a bit to discuss here
09:37
with this exhibition race.
09:39
So I would like to start with the positives
09:40
because there will be some negatives as well.
09:43
The positive being Ryan Parise got the victory.
09:47
It's so refreshing to see the emotion,
09:49
the raw emotion out of him
09:50
and just the full of gratitude for Ryan.
09:53
Well, Ryan has been in a position
09:56
to where he thought he was gonna go home,
09:58
He's been in a position where he's taken a loan out
10:00
on his house and borrowed money to race at Joe Gibbs Racing
10:03
to prove that he could win.
10:05
And he's just one of those guys that just digs all the time
10:08
and hard core racer.
10:10
Race is race modified, race modified
10:13
at Bowman Gray Stadium.
10:14
He's already down at New Smyrna racing in a super late model
10:19
and race is modified down there.
10:20
So he just loves to race.
10:22
He's always worked on his cars.
10:23
And I think the coolest part about this is, you know,
10:27
hard ass Ryan Priest and you'll hear it.
10:31
When, when hopefully you guys have listened to the,
10:33
to the interview, victory lane interview with, with Ryan
10:37
and listened to our interview that I did with Ryan, you know,
10:40
after the, after the race, but it's, it's fun to hear
10:44
the hard asses when it hits them.
10:46
And, you know, I've, I've been hit by those emotions
10:49
when you just can't control them and you can't talk
10:51
and, and it just overwhelms you because you don't really
10:55
realize how much pressure is on you and how much pressure
10:58
you put on yourself and, and, you know, those do or die
11:01
moments where, you know, you might have to go work
11:04
a construction job or, you know, fabrication or whatever
11:07
that job may be to, to make a living and, and realize
11:11
that your dream's dead.
11:12
And, you know, when, when you actually reach the pinnacle
11:15
of what you thought you should and get to victory lane
11:18
in a cup car and when you've been working your whole life
11:20
to get there, you saw exactly what, what that means to him.
11:24
And, you know, that emotion coming out was, was pretty
11:28
Yeah. I mean, he's one of, he's, he's one of my New England
11:31
brothers. We, it's like the guy, the people that come
11:34
from the New England area, they are, we are hard
11:37
nose racers up there and we don't get to do it as much
11:40
because of the weather. And we made those people up there
11:44
probably don't get the amount of respect nationally that
11:47
they deserve for being great, not only drivers, but mechanics
11:50
on the cars. You know what I mean? Everyone has a second job.
11:53
So it's like, it's like a, it's a lifestyle, but it's not
11:56
the same as it is down here. And for, for him to go through
12:00
all the things that he's gone through, you know, he started
12:02
racing at like JD motorsports. Like I worked on his car, on
12:06
his, um, K&N car when he came to MDM motorsports, he drove
12:09
for us before, like even before that. So he was just
12:12
grinding and grinding and grinding. And then he saw
12:15
flashes. And then we were in an era where like he bet on
12:18
himself and won at JGR. And then it was like nothing. It was
12:24
like, well, what he did everything he's supposed to do.
12:27
And that's really like a kick in the, in the chest because
12:30
you're like, well, what else more could I have done? And, uh, he
12:33
just never quit and working out obviously with the KHI group,
12:37
getting the partners together and all the things. Um, it's, it's
12:40
really, I'm really, really happy for him. Happy for Heather.
12:43
Happy for everyone back home. Cause I know they're going nuts.
12:45
And now it's just one more reason when we go to New Hampshire
12:47
motor speedway for them to be excited.
12:49
I asked him, I asked him on, on our, uh, interview this week,
12:52
I said, well, did, did, uh, miss Heather wash your mouth out
12:55
There was a couple of
12:58
words in, in, yeah, that was funny, but it's, you kind of
13:03
noted this on the broadcast. He's kind of been carrying the
13:06
flag for RFK. Can you look at last year, he had 14 top 10
13:10
performances. It was the best season he's ever had in cup.
13:13
And now he has a lot to build on just coming out of the gate
13:16
You never know when it's just going to gel with a team or the
13:20
crew chief and engineers or company in general. And it, it,
13:25
it has just gelled for those guys. And you know, it's just that
13:27
they've assembled the right group of people with the right
13:29
personalities and figured out how to talk to each other and
13:33
make their cars fast. And consistently last year, he ran
13:36
in the top 10 and that, and that's hard to do in the cup
13:39
series. He spent a long time at JTG, uh, trying to do exactly
13:43
that. And, and you know, it's, it's not something that you can
13:47
just fall into. It takes a lot of work, but it takes the right
13:50
people. It takes the right system to be able to put that group
13:53
of people together and make it happen. So I'm, I'm super happy
13:56
for Ryan and really everybody at RFK because, you know, that
14:01
they put a lot of effort into, into trying to make their cars
14:04
better and get themselves into victory lane. I think Chris
14:07
busher, um, you know, we, we thought that he was going to be
14:10
the dominant car last year with all the momentum that he had
14:12
from the year before and even Brad himself, uh, Brad being
14:16
hurt, not being in the race and, you know, kind of some
14:18
questions on, you know, where his health is. I think that that
14:22
was a, the timing of Ryan's win was big. Ryan, um, sorry,
14:26
KV, but Ryan just, I just want to note, like last year, you
14:30
saw his road course stuff get better. Like he has become a
14:34
well-rounded race car driver and what we, what he had to do
14:38
to win at Bowman Gray with the weather. Like that is not easy.
14:43
I feel like his reaction just exemplified what it means to
14:46
win. I know it's an exhibition race, but like Carson host of
14:49
our was talking about it, we still do all the DIL, the prep
14:52
work is the same, even though it's not a points race. Like a
14:54
win is a win and you're going to lose a lot more than you're
14:57
ever going to win and you could just sense how much that
14:59
moment meant to him. Well, it's, it's a race and whether it's
15:03
a race for, it's still got money on the line. It's got a
15:05
trophy on the line and it, and it really gets your season
15:08
started. Those guys hadn't, most of them hadn't been in a car
15:11
Ryan had, um, but most of those guys hadn't sat in, you know,
15:14
behind the wheel since they, they left Phoenix. So, you know,
15:18
to kind of get the rust knocked off, there was a lot of pressure
15:20
on these guys leading into those practice sessions to get
15:23
their cars right, um, you know, to, to just make the race.
15:27
And that was Ryan's goal. He said it. Our goal, our only goal
15:30
was to, was to make the race. And that was kind of the first
15:32
race within the race was to get into that top 20, uh, or into
15:36
the top 23 of the, of the field. So it's, um, you know, I
15:41
think there's, there's definitely wins that are popular.
15:42
And this, this is definitely one of those wins that's popular
15:45
in the garage for sure.
15:46
It does seem like that for sure. So you kind of referenced, uh,
15:49
the things leading up to it. One of them was the LCQ, the
15:52
last chance qualifier. This was very exciting and some good
15:55
respectable racing in there. Right.
15:57
I don't know about respectable, respectable for Bowman Gray.
16:01
You just have to know at certain places you're going to get
16:05
run into. You're going to have to run into people and, um, you
16:08
know, the, the LCQ race between Corey LaJoy and Austin
16:13
Cinderick and what wound up being AJ Almond Dinger, but it
16:16
got technical, uh, and, and these guys passed each other a
16:19
couple of times and figured out that they needed to, to stay
16:22
wheel to wheel to get Almond Dinger back into the race so
16:25
that the retaliation couldn't, couldn't come. And, and really
16:29
in the end staying door to door like that, when Almond Dinger
16:31
gave Cinderick that shot, having that car up on the outside of
16:35
him right there of Corey LaJoy, uh, saved the two from
16:37
going up the race track and Almond Dinger driving by him. So
16:40
just a, a great finish to the LCQ and, and Bowman Gray has,
16:44
has produced some, some good finishes, uh, and good racing
16:47
with, with the things that we've had happen up there when the
16:51
track's dry. Yeah. When the, when the, when, yeah, it's
16:53
really fun to watch when the track is dry. It's really
16:57
interesting to watch when it's not, but I thought the racing,
17:00
when they got to race and use racecraft that they typically
17:04
do, I thought it was really good. And yeah, they were beating
17:06
on each other and people were mad, but like that's literally
17:09
why we go, why we're doing like that's the matter. That's
17:11
part of it and what we, uh, expected to see. So I think if
17:15
we didn't see that, we'd think something was wrong. You know
17:17
what I mean? So I thought that the racing all in all was
17:19
good when they got to do it. It has that nickname for a
17:22
reason. The unique part and, and I was, I mean, it was
17:27
super cold and sleeting and raining in the second half of
17:32
the race. I was surprised how many people actually showed
17:34
up for the race. But the people that showed up never left.
17:38
They stayed. That's amazing. I think, I mean, how many times
17:40
have they got to watch a race in the rain at Bowman Gray?
17:42
Shout out to them. Seriously. Cause it must have been freezing.
17:45
Those are the MVPs. They are the MVPs.
17:47
That's a dedicated race fans. I thought there was a lot more
17:50
people there than there was going to be. There was more
17:52
people than I thought was going to be there. And then to
17:54
Kevin's point, everyone that was there stayed. And that was
17:56
this. Yeah. If you're watching along on YouTube, this is
17:59
what that racetrack looked like a few days prior. Obviously
18:02
the track personnel diligently working to clear that
18:06
thing off. We had record setting snow here in North
18:09
Carolina. The most snow we've seen in 20 some years. So
18:12
this was a pretty large undertaking for everybody
18:14
and that community, obviously in Winston Salem, but they
18:17
got it. They got it ready. There's not too many times
18:20
that I've seen the jet dryers used on the, on the
18:22
infield. That's a new, that's new. That is definitely,
18:26
definitely a new one for me, but you had to keep up with
18:29
it because there was so much snow that was coming
18:31
down. And ultimately it kind of bit us in practice a
18:34
little bit. The snow was packed up on top of the walls
18:36
and it got warm enough during the day. It started
18:39
melting underneath the safer barriers and they had to
18:42
go out and keep addressing that and actually dug the
18:45
wall between the safer barrier and the wall out after
18:48
the, you know, after the practice sessions and
18:52
things happened before the LCQ to keep the water from
18:54
running after track, but they had shovels out there in
18:56
between. But yeah, I, I think that we deserve these,
19:01
these folks from NASCAR, Winston Salem, Bowman Gray,
19:05
Fox, all the people that were on the grounds in
19:09
order to just get this event to happen was a massive
19:12
undertaking. Took way, way more time than everybody
19:16
thought it was going to take as far as being there on
19:18
Wednesday. You know, you got to realize our crew was
19:20
there a week before the race, getting the trailers
19:22
and everything cameras and everything set up around
19:25
the racetrack. And so it was a massive undertaking
19:28
just to get this event to actually happen with all
19:31
the weather and things that happened. So lots to deal
19:35
with and the hits just kept, kept on coming on, on
19:38
race night. Yeah. Kevin is referencing more weather
19:42
made its way in around the halfway point. And I
19:45
want to bring up something that James Small said
19:47
after the race. Obviously Chase Briscoe and company
19:50
had a very strong car throughout the course of
19:52
that. He was very frustrated with the officiating
19:54
side and NASCAR are bringing cars to fuel, obviously
19:58
on pit road. And then just, he said there was a lot
20:01
of miscommunication. He felt like on tires, minimal
20:04
information on what was going on, your perspective
20:06
on the officiating for this race. Well, you know, I
20:10
think there were definitely some moments that
20:12
could have been officiated, you know, definitely
20:14
smoother. I think that this, this event is so unique
20:18
because we don't count caution laps. We had rain and
20:22
sleet in the second half. And, and so when the, when
20:26
the things started happening and the event started
20:29
to become a wet weather event, I just wish we weren't
20:33
so tentative and just especially at the clash,
20:35
like the, the, I've driven the car with the rain
20:38
tires on there before and, you know, I know we
20:41
didn't have the windshield wiper on. I've never
20:43
turned my windshield wiper on one time when we
20:45
were in a wet weather race because it just, to me,
20:47
it just doesn't work. I'd rather have the window
20:50
wiped and rain X, rain X put on the window.
20:52
But, you know, I just, it feels like a tough
20:55
decision, but I feel like we just either we're in
20:59
the rain business or we're out of it, right? Like
21:01
if we're going to have rain tires and it starts
21:02
raining and there's not standing water, which there
21:05
was not on the racetrack, we're going, we're not
21:09
going very fast. And, you know, if you've got the
21:12
wet weather tires in the pits, give them five
21:15
minutes, put the tires on, send them out on the
21:16
racetrack and let's go. And we heard it from
21:18
several of the, we heard it from Kyle Larson, we
21:21
heard it from Chase Elliott, we heard it from
21:22
several of those guys that were on the radio
21:25
saying, let's go. And, you know, ultimately it
21:28
took so much extra time, 15, 20, 30 minutes,
21:31
whatever it was that it pushed us off the air
21:33
out of our broadcast window on Fox and ultimately
21:36
pushed us to FS too. So, you know, I know that
21:39
they're nervous about the safety of the
21:41
competitors, but there's really not that much to
21:44
be nervous about as, you know, I think that the
21:46
other conversation was the spray, which was never
21:49
an issue because of the fact that we're going so
21:51
slow there. So, it was, you know, I feel like, I
21:54
feel like on the old ones, if we're going to be
21:56
in the rain business, we got to put the rain
21:57
tires on, send them back on on the racetrack.
21:59
The only thing that I would like to look at, our
22:02
guys don't, the only time they learn what's
22:05
happening with wet weather tires is in the race.
22:08
Right. You know, I think having those double
22:10
file restarts right off the bat the first time,
22:12
you know, if we, if we could just get the car
22:15
strung out, we would have been in better shape.
22:17
And because they, they got it, they don't know
22:19
how far to drive in the corner. They don't know
22:20
where to run on the racetrack. The middle lane
22:22
was like ice with the rubber and you saw that
22:25
with tie Gibbs immediately on the restart right
22:27
there, slid up the racetrack, couldn't go
22:29
anywhere, slide and spin in the tires. But if
22:32
we're going to be in the wet weather business,
22:33
we got to be, we got to be more aggressive and
22:35
putting the tires on the car and we got to
22:37
figure out how to get good year to build a
22:39
right side tire, left side tire, whatever
22:42
they want to build that has stagger in it for,
22:44
for these ovals. We got to just do it
22:45
appropriately. If we're going to, we can't
22:47
just be one foot in.
22:48
We got to be committed.
22:49
If we got to be committed to it and having
22:52
driven the, the rain tires before that, you
22:55
know, they, they drive fine.
22:56
Um, now this particular situation turned
22:59
into a shit show because, and I've been
23:02
here before at the Coliseum when we went
23:04
to LA, I'd finally been tired of getting
23:06
run over and you just start bulldozing
23:08
people. And that's what this turned into.
23:10
The drivers lost their minds and started
23:11
bulldozing people. Um, because you're just
23:14
constantly getting run into and, and the
23:16
way to pass was to slam into the guy's
23:18
door besides you. And, you know, when it's
23:21
wet like that, it becomes finesse or a
23:24
Bowman Gray. Yeah. In the wet.
23:28
There was not much finesse. So, um, you know,
23:32
I think that we, when we had this scenario
23:35
a couple of years ago, it was the same way
23:37
at the Coliseum. And this time it just so
23:40
happened to be, there was nothing wrong
23:42
with the tires. There was nothing wrong
23:44
with the track conditions. It was just
23:46
the fact that they were all tired of
23:47
getting run into and turned into bulldozers.
23:50
I, I think too, we need to decide what
23:52
we want this event to be. Like from the
23:55
standpoint of like what we're doing with
23:56
the clash itself, like, um, I think it
24:00
being at LA, I loved it at LA. I also
24:03
loved it at Bowman Gray Stadium. Um, I
24:06
also remember loving it at Daytona. Like
24:09
now I don't think we're gonna, I don't
24:11
think we'll see it at Daytona because
24:13
the amount of work the Speedway cars take
24:16
and then risking wrecking, you know, on a
24:19
high level and then you're losing cars
24:20
and like the money aspect, the business
24:22
part of that part is really tough. Even
24:24
turning the lights on at Daytona versus
24:25
turning the lights on at Bowman Gray is
24:27
a lot different, right? Um, I don't know
24:30
what exactly the answer is. Maybe it's
24:31
the short track situation. Maybe it, we
24:35
move it up earlier and do an international
24:37
situation like some type of exhibition
24:39
in a warm weather climate. Um, I don't
24:42
know what it is exactly, but we need to
24:43
think about what we want this to be
24:45
because we've now you, we've kind of
24:47
exhausted a lot of the options and well
24:50
what we're gonna do. It's, I think we
24:52
should use our resources here. Um, you
24:55
know, the international thing is
24:57
probably a big check, but I think it's
24:59
it's great that we go to a place like
25:01
Bowman Gray. You look at the soft walls,
25:03
you look at the lights, you look at all
25:04
the improvements that went into that
25:06
racetrack. Ryan Priest mentioned New
25:07
Smyrna in his post race interview.
25:11
That place needs some work.
25:13
Need some help. And my point in this is
25:15
using that race to go to different
25:16
places to, um, help rebuild the
25:20
infrastructure of the short track system
25:22
is, is needed. And if you want to go, I
25:25
mean, New Smyrna has the same weather
25:26
Daytona is going to have. Bakersfield,
25:28
California has great weather this time
25:31
of year. There are places that we could
25:33
go to be able to put a little money, a
25:36
little enthusiasm into that particular
25:38
market to cater to, you know, some of
25:41
those short tracks. So we could, we could
25:43
get, we could get three, four, five years
25:45
down the road and then worry about what
25:46
we want to do next. But I love the fact
25:48
that, and the racing has been good at
25:50
Bowman Gray when the racetrack was dry.
25:53
And, and racing was good at the Coliseum
25:55
the first year, second year it turned
25:56
into a exactly what we just saw last
26:00
night. So, you know, it's, um, you can get
26:03
some good ones, you can get some bad
26:04
ones, but I like it at the short track.
26:07
So you wanted to stay at Bowman Gray?
26:09
I don't, I don't think it's good to stay
26:11
at Bowman Gray because of the weather.
26:14
I like the short track in general.
26:16
Bowman Gray is a great place to have it.
26:17
I think our, I think we've put on good
26:19
shows. I think the fans are, we have
26:22
hardcore rabid fans that, that are at
26:24
Bowman Gray and we have a great fan base
26:26
there. But unfortunately when that, when
26:29
that race falls, it's just, it's so
26:31
questionable with the weather and we
26:32
got bit by it this year. We got lucky
26:34
last year. It's a high risk, high reward.
26:36
I think we all, as all, we all are fans.
26:40
As we want things to happen and all
26:42
other things like that, you got to
26:43
remember, be careful, we talked about
26:45
last week, be careful what you wish for
26:47
because there is the other side of the
26:48
coin. So we just can't remember that.
26:50
There you go. All right. So let's talk
26:52
about some of the things that happened
26:53
throughout the course of this race. And
26:55
maybe we'll start with William Byron,
26:56
who was the runner up. What kind of
26:58
flex did you see him demonstrate in
27:00
race one? Well, he was in, he was in
27:01
contention all night. And, and I think
27:03
that, you know, we, we saw a certain
27:06
point where he and Larson started to
27:07
fade. He didn't fade as, as bad as Larson.
27:10
He had his issues during the race and, and
27:12
we saw that all night from a lot of
27:14
people that were able to rebound from,
27:16
from their issues to get back up towards
27:18
the front of the field. So a lot of, a
27:20
lot of moving and shaking from the, from
27:21
the front of the pack to the back of the
27:22
pack as, as we went through the whole
27:24
night. So it was, you know, look, William
27:27
Byron is, you know, he's, he's got the
27:29
experience now. He's got the stability in
27:31
his team. He's got an organization that
27:32
is, you know, proven winners with
27:35
Hendrik Motorsports. And they're in a
27:37
position to, to contend for a
27:39
championship. And, and, you know, I think
27:41
the maturity of the team and, and starting
27:42
to fill those holes of, of things that
27:45
happen, you know, have slowly been
27:47
filled to, to put them in a, in a
27:49
position to, to be contenders. So
27:50
Hendrik swept the front row. We saw four
27:53
Gibbs cars lined up right behind them
27:55
after qualifying. And I really think
27:57
that's going to be the story of the
27:58
year. It's Hendrik, Hendrik versus Gibbs.
28:01
And, and, and that's, that's just the way
28:04
that it is. The, you know, with the small
28:06
changes in the rules this year with the
28:08
cars and everything that's happening,
28:09
it's going to be hard to make up ground
28:11
on those guys. I think the only
28:12
question mark is that new body and what
28:15
tracks does it benefit or hurt the
28:18
Chevrolet's on. Hendrik versus Gibbs.
28:19
What's old is new again. Yeah. Here we go
28:21
again. One driver who had a solid
28:24
showing that is with a new team this
28:26
year is Daniel Suarez. Had a top five
28:28
performance. Seemed pretty happy with
28:30
what his group brought to the table.
28:32
There were some unknowns obviously with
28:34
him going over to Spire on how that
28:35
would go. He's paired with Ryan Sparks.
28:37
I would say he's probably feeling
28:39
encouraged based on what they saw.
28:42
Yeah. They, I mean these, it's a race
28:44
that like Kevin said, there's still money
28:46
involved. There's still a trophy. It's
28:47
still a race. You want to show up. You
28:49
want to make sure your process is
28:51
right to getting the cars right, right?
28:53
So that is a good step. You want to
28:55
step, have your first step, be a good
28:57
one. No matter what, it is throwing me
28:59
off him in the seven car. It is a little
29:01
bit. It's so like the seven car is
29:04
being for Spire. It's like their, their
29:07
home car. Like that was their first
29:09
number. I'm pretty sure other than the
29:10
77, seven in general, right? And so I
29:13
look at that. I'm like, I think Spire
29:14
is so heavy and Suarez over there. I've
29:16
been thinking about trackouts for so
29:17
long. So it's going to take me a little
29:19
bit to get used to that. I mean during
29:20
during practice or qualifying or I
29:22
don't remember exactly what it was on
29:23
the air, but I called Connor Zillich. I
29:26
called him Shane Van Gisburg for
29:28
multiple laps and my compadres in the
29:31
booth weren't saying that it was the wrong
29:33
car. It's like, I don't worry about it.
29:34
I'm like, no, I sound like an idiot.
29:36
Yeah. I could just called the wrong
29:37
car, but it's, but it's, it's the same
29:39
for us. We're learning the new cars on
29:41
the racetrack and the people who are
29:43
driving and when they move around, but
29:44
for those drivers and teams, they're
29:46
doing the exact same thing. Yeah. They're
29:47
trying to figure out the brake pedals
29:49
feel different. The way that everything
29:50
is done. The process is all different
29:52
for those new drivers. So good, good
29:55
first outing for, for Suarez and that
29:57
team. Let me ask you this. When, when a
29:59
driver switched, right? That maybe you
30:02
switched from a car that you knew the
30:04
driver of and you probably didn't have
30:06
any run-ins with, right? With somebody
30:07
that maybe you have or haven't, whatever.
30:10
And then they do something that you're
30:11
not used to out of that car. Does it
30:13
catch you off guard? You know what I
30:15
mean? Like his Bubba and Suarez, like I
30:16
think they've had a couple like little
30:18
dust-up, nothing crazy.
30:19
Suarez and SVG is of interest. Right. I
30:21
mean, like, so when he switches, you're
30:24
like, wait, who's in that car again? Like
30:25
it's Justin Hayley and Bubba probably
30:27
never really run together much. Yeah.
30:29
Well, it's, it definitely doesn't take
30:31
long. Maybe a race or two and sometimes
30:34
you forget who you're racing with. But
30:37
when a new guy pops up in there and or
30:40
even a young guy that pops up in there
30:42
that you're not used to racing with, it
30:44
definitely changes the way that you
30:46
think about the situation. So you
30:47
definitely have to understand who you're
30:50
around and what you're dealing with.
30:52
You mentioned the trackhouse cars. What
30:53
did you think about what we saw at SVG
30:55
and Connor Zillich in this event?
30:57
Yeah. I thought in the wet, it was good.
31:01
In the dry, it wasn't great. You know, Ross
31:04
was kind of just middle of the pack all
31:06
night. And I think, but that's been our
31:08
question. Where would these trackhouse
31:10
cars be as the performance of the cars?
31:13
Where would they be for these drivers?
31:14
And what's that going to be like as we
31:18
start the season? So, I mean, there's a
31:20
lot of hype around Zillich. And we know
31:22
that he has the skill set to drive the
31:24
car fast and has won in everything that
31:26
he's raced in. SVG, obviously, we know
31:28
that he is going to be a contender to
31:33
win all the road course races. And we
31:35
expect Ross Chastain to win. And really,
31:37
from a trackhouse standpoint, Ross
31:39
Chastain is expected to be the leader of
31:41
that organization to guide the process
31:43
of making the cars fast. So a lot of
31:47
pressure on all of those guys. Different
31:49
scenario for SVG with the points. Connor
31:51
coming into the series and the
31:53
expectations that are set on Ross to
31:55
be that leader and winner of the
31:57
organization. I'll be interested to see
32:00
how SVG with the point system being
32:03
different. Depending on how well he's
32:06
doing on the ovals, I expect him to be
32:08
better on the ovals. But again, a lot of
32:09
it to your point, how's the team
32:11
overall doing? Because he could get
32:12
better and it might look worse, but like
32:14
the cars didn't get better, right? So
32:16
it's going to be, we're going to have to
32:17
play that by ear. But when he's in the
32:19
situation on the road courses, but we
32:22
need points, but he's going, you know,
32:24
throwing haymakers with like a Chris
32:26
Busher. Like how does he now operate?
32:29
Because when he got here, it was the
32:31
other system. So he only knew one way. So
32:33
this is for everyone else. It's back to
32:36
the old, but for him, it's completely
32:37
different. Well, it's, you know, I think
32:40
when you, I want to go back to one more
32:42
thing, you know, from the race, we saw
32:44
Kyle Bush, we saw, you know, Denny
32:49
Hamlin, a lot of these guys go into the
32:50
pits, work on their cars, fix their cars
32:53
for, for to go back out on a racetrack
32:55
in the wet. You're going to get in this
32:57
position again. And all these guys were,
33:00
not all of them, but a lot of them were
33:02
craving the time on the racetrack to
33:04
be able to understand what they needed
33:06
to do to get better, understand their
33:08
race cars and collect that data to be
33:10
able to know what they needed to do to
33:12
their car to make it work right in these
33:14
rain conditions. Because in the end, in
33:17
the results, it doesn't say anything
33:19
about whether it's wet, whether it's dry,
33:21
whether have field crashed, whatever it
33:23
is, you've got to be able to navigate
33:25
these, these different scenarios and,
33:27
and our guys do a great job behind,
33:30
behind the wheel of, of being able to
33:32
adapt and adjust to all these different
33:34
conditions. And so it was, it was
33:36
definitely something that was really,
33:39
really useful for a lot of the notebooks
33:42
for all these teams.
33:43
If you don't think that it could be cold
33:45
like this at Martinsville, because we've
33:46
been cold and it's snowed at Martinsville
33:49
before, like we could be in this
33:50
situation literally at Martinsville to
33:52
track that if there's anyone to compare
33:54
to Bowman Gray, it would be that. So
33:56
that this could really pay off.
33:57
So there is another positive that came
33:59
from all this. There are a lot of
34:00
positives. You know, I just, if we're
34:03
going to be in the wet weather business,
34:04
let's just own it. Like let's not,
34:06
let's not overthink it. Like the tires
34:09
are good, the cars are capable, the
34:11
drivers are capable. Let them go out
34:13
there and just get after it.
34:15
Especially this situation, because
34:16
there's no points. So everyone's
34:18
trying stuff anyway. So like just let
34:20
them, just let them, they all drove into
34:22
turn one and the whole field didn't go
34:23
straight in the wall. It's not going to
34:25
happen. I mean, it's just not going to
34:27
happen. We've done it at Richmond. We've
34:28
done it at Loudoun. We've done it at,
34:29
you know, Bristol. We've done it at a lot
34:32
of the places that, that, that we've,
34:34
I just, it has to just be second nature.
34:38
And we just got to quit worrying about it
34:40
so much. I know that we're always
34:41
worried about safety and we should be,
34:42
but there's not that, as much to worry
34:45
about with the wet weather tires is
34:46
what we're worrying about.
34:48
Okay. Well, there you have it. That was
34:49
the clash. And now we are moving on to
34:52
the Daytona 500. We can't wait for that.
34:54
That's a big race. That's a huge race.
34:57
We will talk more about the Daytona 500
34:59
on our live show that you can't miss.
35:02
Katelyn's live show.
35:03
No, it is Kevin's show.
35:06
KV special edition, happy hour.
35:08
Look at it. It's a show's name.
35:09
It's just Kevin Harvick's happy hour.
35:11
Presented by Fox, presented by KV.
35:19
Look, look, speaking of who's show it is
35:22
It's your favorite time for the first
35:24
time of the year. Mambas, social sips.
35:28
Okay. You got to do this.
35:31
I can't wait to do this live with y'all.
35:33
That's going to be, that's, you guys,
35:35
you better come up with something
35:36
better than normal.
35:36
No, when we do social sips live, you're
35:39
going to see that how much of these
35:40
clothes is really loved this part.
35:42
You're going to see.
35:43
But let's get into it.
35:44
All right. So when I was looking at
35:47
through social, you know, I was like,
35:49
do I do stuff throughout the off season?
35:51
And I was going to find moments throughout
35:52
the off season, but then the snow storm
35:56
Well, this ought to be good.
35:57
So we have a snowy sips for you.
36:01
Let's start with Chris Busher or Texan.
36:04
You know, he's a little bit of a cowboy.
36:06
They do some cowboy stuff.
36:08
They do some cowboy stuff, all right.
36:13
Yeah, he's holding on.
36:15
No, it looks like an air mattress.
36:17
Oh, it's an air mattress.
36:20
It's hard to explain what he's doing
36:21
because I don't know the proper red
36:23
neck words for this, but he's holding
36:26
on to a rope that is tied to an
36:30
excavator and the excavator is being
36:31
slung around in a circle.
36:33
And he is, I mean, he's stroking.
36:35
He's going pretty fast.
36:37
He's not in bed next to Brad Koslowski.
36:40
I want to know who was operating the excavator.
36:44
If this was at my house and my wife
36:45
was operating that excavator,
36:48
it would be as fast as it could go.
36:50
And she'd be laughing her ass off to see
36:52
how far she could throw me.
36:55
I've never, I've not, I've not seen
36:57
that activity before.
36:59
This seems like a brand new activity.
37:00
I would love to run the excavator
37:03
There's still some snow out there.
37:04
We could still do this.
37:05
No, no, no, no, no.
37:07
We're going to stay right here at Jerry Logano.
37:10
He's been running around with his son,
37:12
Hudson, around his, around the shop and property.
37:16
And they, they took the, the UTVs out,
37:19
the side by sides, and they were having a ball.
37:22
There's some awesome video.
37:23
They're drifting around.
37:24
Obviously that's a, that's a really good donut.
37:27
What do you rate that, Kevin?
37:28
That's pretty good.
37:29
Those are some ripping donuts right there.
37:32
I was waiting for him to shoot through the front door.
37:37
That was a good one.
37:41
That's, Keanu does that in the cup car too, to be honest.
37:44
And then this probably is my favorite so far of the things
37:49
that I've seen on social.
37:51
Obviously we have the race for the seat show here on Fox
37:54
with Rams trying to find a driver to fill in their extra truck.
38:00
Well, it got one driver, Stephen Malazi.
38:03
He basically did a whole ad for them as to why it should be.
38:08
Yeah. Let's see it.
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Let's see a little bit of it.
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This was my last time in old Jimbo.
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With racing being insanely expensive,
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I don't get to do it as much as I should,
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but that's where Ram comes in.
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To celebrate the return of the Hemian.
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So I know this kid and he, he is a diehard.
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Like he wants it really bad.
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And I just felt like if they're,
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you're going to have a program like this
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that you're looking for someone who's a diehard and for the brand.
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You need to, you need to give something like this.
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He hasn't been able to drive much.
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Well, where do you come from?
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He just came from cars.
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He just came from cars.
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Like you just go from law school to trucks?
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If you did carting and then he got into a truck
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and now he does like starting parks a lot for Reum.
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And when they have the funding, they run the whole thing.
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He got out back to sponsor him, which I think is pretty,
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we had outback at Stuart Hoss.
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Yeah. We used to, we used to have Blumen,
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Blumen Mondays every time we got a top 10.
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I think one year we got 32 of them.
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A lot of top 10s back in the days.
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Yeah. And no, I don't think it was 32, but it was a lot.
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Maybe it was 28, 29.
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Still it's a high number.
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Something like that.
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And they loved it because every time that somebody
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would go in to buy a Blumen onion,
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they would have an average ticket price of $32 at the outback
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with their free Blumen onion.
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That's pretty good return.
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Yeah. We were driving some traffic.
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We were getting a full circle moment.
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Good for Stephen though, having his,
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putting his story out there.
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He sold his own car to race.
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I know. That's wild.
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That's pretty extreme.
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It's pretty extreme.
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And it was, I was some type of dodge, I think too,
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that he sold to do that.
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So he's really locked into the brand.
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Don't forget the mail bag.
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We got it back this year.
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So, harvickhappyhour4 at gmail.com.
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Send us your thoughts.
40:22
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That is your first Mamba Sips of the year.
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It's going to be a long year.
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And I love you guys for it.
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You know what my favorite part is other than the Sips?
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And this one was tough.
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This one was tough.
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But so we got a great amount of curve.
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We got to get a little grayish here.
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Yeah. We got to get a gray and a little curve.
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So let's see Prizes.
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The only other ones that I really remember is C-bells at New Hampshire.
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And that one, this is better than C-bells at New Hampshire.
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Wait. You mean just in general?
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Elliott's last year here at Bowman Gray was really good.
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But not on rain tires.
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Yeah. That's what I'm saying in the rain tires.
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I mean specifically rain tires.
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Rain tires are, they look pretty grippy.
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He got some smoke out of it though.
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He did the best he could with what he had in the situation.
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I don't think it was very good.
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He probably should just nose it up and just burn it melted now.
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I mean, I look, you guys know I'm honest.
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So I'm happy for Ryan Priest, but his burnout sucked.
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So do you get a grade at it?
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Yeah. I, it's not an F, but it's probably more like a C minus.
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You know the visit.
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Is that, is that how we're grading them this year?
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Do you want to do numbers scale?
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Yeah. We got to decide.
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Change. So we'll just do it however we want.
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So give me a number.
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Yeah. I mean, it's not very good.
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So he said it wasn't an F, but then he gave it a C and not a D.
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So like that's why I like need a number.
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I mean, he's still one.
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So yeah, let's just go five out of 10.
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Only because Tyler told me he just got told everybody.
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We just got told that in her ear.
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So I was like, get her move on.
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Kevin pick a number.
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My GPA was like 2.0.
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So we got five out of 10 for the first burnout of the year.
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Not your fault, priest.
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The problem, the problem at Bowman Gray is you have only down to go
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after Chase Elliott's last year.
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So compared to Chase Elliott's last year,
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I mean, we should just drove straight to victory lane.
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We will probably see something spectacular at the 500 though.
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Well, that's a hard one because of the banking.
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Okay. Well, it's hard.
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I'm trying to sell the hope here.
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Hope is not a strategy.
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Hope is a bad strategy.
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Hope is a bad strategy.
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That was, you just blew through those steps buddy.
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Yeah, you're a three.
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I'm glad you showed up today.
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