Type 00 sounds like an early prototype or special development car connected to Jaguar. It’s not the kind of car most people buy new; it’s more about history and engineering. The podcast is mentioning it because it shows an important early stage of the story.
The Jaguar E-Type is a famous old British sports car. Here, they’re joking about a cake shaped like one, because everyone at the event loves that model.
The Jaguar F-Type is a sports car made for fun driving. The podcast brings it up in connection with Jaguar’s older classic sports cars, showing it’s part of the same overall story. It’s a modern Jaguar that aims to feel exciting on the road.
Carburettors are older-style parts that mix fuel with air for the engine. The speaker is saying the heat was so intense that the carburettors ended up coming off.
Formula One is the highest level of open-wheel racing. Teams race with very specific rules, and the cars are covered in sponsor logos that get seen worldwide.
“Drive To Survive” is a Netflix show about Formula 1. It made more people start watching F1, so brands get more attention when they show up on the cars.
Place
M40
The M40 is a major motorway in the UK, connecting London to the Midlands. Mentioning it sets the scene for the host’s real-world driving moment before the car’s water-leak issue is described.
The central console is the panel between the seats with the controls and switches. If there’s a hole or gap there, water can get into the driver’s footwell or cockpit area.
Condensation is water that collects when air cools. In a car, it can happen from the air conditioning, and that’s what they’re trying to figure out here.
Term
AA
The “AA” is a UK service that helps drivers when their car breaks down. They sent someone out to check the problem.
The 205 XS is a Peugeot 205 variant. It’s a small, fun-to-drive car that enthusiasts like, and the host is talking about how this one feels better than the others they’ve had.
Term
suspension butting
They’re talking about how the car’s suspension feels when you drive it. If it’s “on point,” it means it rides and handles smoothly instead of feeling like it’s hitting hard or acting weird.
Term
lift the racks
This sounds like they’re describing how the car’s steering/handling changes when you change how you’re driving. They’re basically saying the steering feel on this one is better than the others.
The clutch is what you press to smoothly connect and disconnect the engine from the gearbox. If the clutch feels “right,” shifting feels easy and the car feels more fun to drive.
A Peugeot 205 XS is a small, older “hot hatch” that’s famous for being fun and responsive to drive. Here, the host is saying it feels great through the gears and clutch, and it brings back strong memories because he drove one years ago.
“Gear change points” are the moments when you decide to shift up or down. The host is saying his brain remembered exactly when to change gears on that road, even though he couldn’t remember what he ate the week before.
“Car and Classic” is a website where people list and auction classic cars. In this segment, they’re talking about a specific car listing that’s gone live.
Alpina is a company that takes BMW cars and makes them faster and more special. They’re known for doing it in a more “factory-like” way than most aftermarket tuners.
“F10” is BMW’s internal code for a specific generation of the 5 Series. The host is saying they might buy a 2015 one even though it has a small issue they expect to deal with.
A “V8” is an engine with eight cylinders arranged in a V shape. People often associate V8s with a distinctive sound, and the host is talking about whether regulations might change to let them come back.
A normally aspirated engine makes its power without a turbo or supercharger. The host is basically saying that these engines are becoming rarer, because newer cars are switching to turbocharged setups. That changes how the car feels and sounds when you drive it.
“991.1” is Porsche’s internal way of naming a particular 911 generation. The host is using it to show how the 911 changed over time, especially around engine types. It’s like saying “the earlier version of that generation.”
The Ferrari 812 is a very powerful Ferrari with a V12 engine. The host is saying people hoped it would be a hybrid, but it wasn’t, and that makes it feel like it could be one of the last “pure” V12 Ferraris. It’s an emotional, last-chance kind of discussion.
The Alpine A110 is a small two-seat sports car designed to feel quick and nimble. The podcast is talking about it as a sensible choice because it’s compact and fun to drive. It’s known for being more about handling than being huge or complicated.
The Ferrari F8 is a Ferrari sports car with the engine mounted behind the driver. The host is talking about it like a future collectible—something that could be worth a lot more later. It’s an example in their “buying now vs later” value argument.
A “J gate” is the special shape of the gear-shifter’s path. Because it’s shaped like a J, it helps you feel where the shifter is going, so you don’t have to look down. The host says it’s surprisingly easy once you try it.
This means the gear-changing system uses both electronics and mechanical parts together. So it’s not just “computer-controlled,” and it still feels connected to the car’s real moving parts. The host is saying it works well in practice.
“Flappy paddles” means the little shift paddles behind the steering wheel. You pull them to tell the car to change gears. The host is comparing that modern setup to the older gear-shifter feel.
The BMW M5 CS is a special, more hardcore version of the BMW M5. The point here is that the host prefers the more focused “CS” model over the newer one.
The “predecessor argument” is the common car-people debate that the older version of a model is often better than the newer one. The host says that’s especially true when the older car has been around for a long time and feels more “right.”
The Audi R8 is Audi’s supercar, with the engine placed toward the middle of the car. The host brings it up because it’s an example of a sports car that’s effectively being phased out.
The “electric vehicle push” is government pressure in the EU to move more quickly toward electric cars. The host argues it’s causing some regular cars to be discontinued, and companies may try to do small-batch versions instead.
“Retooling” means updating a factory so it can build something new. The host is saying that making big changes to production is expensive, so companies may not do it again.
The BMW Z4 is a small two-seat car with a sporty focus and usually a soft-top or open-top feel. It’s meant for driving for fun rather than carrying lots of passengers. The podcast is referencing it because it’s a model BMW has changed or paused over time.
The Dodge Charger is a large American car that can be built for strong acceleration. People often mention it for its “muscle car” style, but it can also be used like a normal car. In the podcast, it’s being referenced in a more everyday, practical way.
A 12 volt charger is a plug that lets you power or charge things using a car’s electrical outlet. It’s useful when you’re parked for a long time at an event.
The Lamborghini Countach is a famous supercar with a very unusual, sharp-looking design. It’s known for scissor doors that open upward. People talk about it a lot because it’s one of the most recognizable classic Lamborghini models.
Term
classic limon
This looks like it might be the name of a classic car event, but the transcript text is unclear. I can’t confidently identify which event it refers to.
The Peugeot 205 CTI is a small hatchback that was made to be more fun and quick than a regular family car. It’s from an older era, and many people like it because it’s light and easy to drive. The podcast mentions it because it’s a car the speaker clearly enjoys owning.
The Pontiac Solstice is a small two-seat sports car. It’s meant to be fun to drive, especially with open-top style. In the podcast, it’s being mentioned as something that feels appealing and “romantic” as a project or idea.
Term
bad new rules
“Bad new rules” refers to regulatory changes that can significantly alter how F1 cars behave and how teams plan race strategy. In F1, rule changes often target areas like aerodynamics, tire usage, or car design, which can make races harder or more unpredictable.
“Bernie” is Bernie Ecclestone, a major figure in Formula 1 for many years. He’s being quoted to make the point that you don’t need lots of teams to have a great season—having top drivers in a strong team can be enough.
Person
George's car
“George’s car” means George Russell’s car in Formula 1. When the host says it “conked,” they mean it broke down or stopped working, which can completely change how the race plays out.
Weather matters in racing, especially temperature. It can change how quickly tires heat up and how much grip the car has, which affects overtakes and defense.
Race tires work best only when they’re at the right temperature. If they’re too cold, they grip less; if they’re in the right warm range, the car feels more controllable and faster.
It’s a way to describe a tight duel where both cars keep testing each other. One driver tries to set up a pass, but the other keeps blocking and waiting for the right moment.
In Formula 1, the engineer is the person on the team who helps the driver with strategy and car setup. The host is saying Hamilton felt more positive after working with his engineer differently.
Person
Charl
“Charl” is a shortened reference to Charles Leclerc, a Formula 1 driver. The host says Lewis “shaded” Leclerc this weekend, implying Hamilton outperformed him in the race results or on-track battle.
They’re talking about Monaco’s track characteristics and how they affect racing. On that circuit, the car’s size and the track’s narrowness can make passing harder.
“Qualli” means qualifying—when drivers try to set the best lap time to decide where they start the race. Starting position can make a big difference in how the race plays out.
“Yo-yoing” is when cars keep swapping places back and forth. Instead of a pass sticking, someone gets ahead and then the other car immediately takes it back.
The Ferrari Luce sounds like a Ferrari model name being talked about in the context of future ideas. It’s not described in detail here, but it’s being mentioned as part of a “what would you have” conversation. The key point is that it’s connected to Ferrari’s next plans rather than a specific, proven everyday car.
The Ferrari 360 is a specific Ferrari sports car model from the 2000s. They’re using it here as an example of what you might be able to afford with the money mentioned.
The Ferrari FF is a Ferrari model that’s designed to be more usable than a typical supercar. It’s an all-wheel-drive Ferrari, so it can put power down more easily in different conditions.
The Ferrari 488 Challenge is a track-focused Ferrari built for racing. The host is saying it would be an amazing car to actually use on track, not just own.
The Ferrari 365 GTB/4 is an older Ferrari grand tourer, meaning it’s built to drive long distances in comfort while still being very fast. It uses a V12 engine, and the podcast mentions a manual version. People talk about it because it’s a famous, collectible classic Ferrari.
This is a classic Ferrari from 1970 with a big V12 engine and a manual gearbox. The point is that it feels very “old-school” and special—something you’d buy because it’s a real, analog driving experience.
A “Colombo engine” is a famous kind of Ferrari V12 design. It’s named after the engineer behind the original layout, and it’s a big part of why these older Ferraris feel so special.
This is a Ferrari 550 Maranello (often misspoken as “Marinello”) with a big V12 engine. The host is basically saying it’s a straightforward, old-school-feeling Ferrari compared with more complicated modern cars, and they’re talking about what one might cost.
Concept
steel tube things with a bodywork attached to it
The host is talking about how older cars were built with a stronger framework underneath, and then the body was attached to it. They’re saying it feels more “real” and less complicated than newer designs.
LIVE
Hello, and welcome to the car podcast with Chris Harris and his friends. Only two of
us are, I think, on the mainland today. Neil Clifford, I'm very jealous, is over at the
Isle of Man, currently sitting in Milky's Cafe and what looks like sort of Omar's 1950s
record.
I'm in the disco booth.
I'm in the disco booth.
Manish is in Portugal, Chris Cooper is in Cornwall, and I am in Bristol for a change.
So let's see, this is episode 89, soon being the nervous 90s if you're a batsman. I don't
have a factoid organised, but I can tell you this, don't get parking tickets, they really
pissed you off. That's our hopefully my mood will improve during the podcast recording.
Let's start off with a general thank you for everyone that came to the Jag Day. We
had a fabulous time. I hope you did as well. The weather really helped us. I have to say,
what was the greatest success of the day? The biggest success of the day was the sunshine
by some margin, I would have thought. But actually, I can't thank those who organised
it enough. And I think it gives us ideas for the future. So please, if you have an idea,
however silly for an event that you might want us to get involved with, please tell us.
Because you never know, the silliest ideas might be better than the obvious ones. I'll
pass over to my other learning hosts about what they learned or what they felt about
the day and what their memories of it might be. Neil Clifford.
It was about people, beautiful, beautiful Jaguar people, thousands of you. Thank you
so much. And cakes for me. I know Manish almost had a coronary with a sugar overload. And that's
a sort of go and sit down. My wife almost did the same. But they tasted 63 cakes. And
there were seven winners. So that was wonderful. I think, look, we saw some wonderful cars.
Everyone was happy. It was a happy, happy day. We love that brand. I know most people in
the United Kingdom love that brand. And we just celebrated it gorgeously. So thank you
to everyone. It was magical. It really was. And we talked about it when we're on stage.
I think when all of us and we had a number of people speaking on stage during the day,
and it was a really constant chatter and fun and talk about Jaguar all through the day.
And we did a little podcast, Matt Becker, the genius that he has joined us, Harry Metcalford
as well. And when we looked out on that sea of slightly sizzling, burning heads and faces
in front of us, must have been 1500 people in front of us. It was just a sea of faces
and happiness really. When we thought about doing it, and Neil, you had the original idea
as I said when we spoke on Saturday, we thought we just want to celebrate Jaguar. And the
past, the present and the future. And I think it really did feel like that. I didn't really
meet anybody who didn't think it was just the weather really helped. It was a fun day.
It was magical. The vibe and the positiveness was extraordinary, particularly given the
week that Ferrari's had this week. It was, I really felt for the Jaguar people who came
along to show their type 00, the sort of the far end of the big hanger and the big staging
they had there. I think they got a lot of love. And I think it was good for them to
tell their story. So thank you to all of the people who brought cars. Some of them who
we won't, I'm tempted to name some, I know some didn't want to be named to brought their
cars. So you all know who you are. Extraordinary people brought cars. The speakers who joined
us on stage were all fantastic. All the people that attended, we had over 3000 people there,
which was just extraordinary. We had a really good time. I am, I think I'm known for this. I can
quite often walk around with a stern looking look on my face because I'm, I'm nervous because I want
things to go really, really well. And I felt quite nervous until right at the end of the day,
when we'd finished all the stuff on stage, and everybody had done their bit. And it was, there
were clearly lots of happy people there. So many of you came up were very kind and generous and
saying hello to us. And there's really, actually quite overwhelming. Really, really happy day. So
even I in the end thought, actually, I think this has gone okay. And I'm really grateful to my
colleagues, all the helpers and my family, everybody else's family, everybody at Bista,
Khan Classic, everybody else, it was full of that.
Magic. Manage, apart from your sugar overload.
It was, it was a magical day. I mean, I'm the last of the four of us who's been sort of going to
scrambles and things and to be the centre of something that we've created that especially the
Coopers put their backs into the work so efficiently, and produce basically so much
happiness. I think the nicest thing I can say is that we couldn't walk anywhere. And I think none
of us could without someone coming up and saying, excuse me, I don't mean to bother you, but and
you weren't bothering us. Nobody who came up to us and said hello, because we were there because
we love being there. We love those cars. I mean, looking at those cars, especially in the kind
of public car park park, just saw everything, almost from every decade in the century. And
really want to thank, I really, really want to thank Emma Clifford and Ashley, the great
Ashley from the Devonshire Palmer Watts for the the Cape Judging. It was probably 90 degrees in
the tent. And Ashley should actually be in the SAS because Emma and I, there were a couple of times,
we were just sweating. We were trying to eat one cubic centimetre of each of these 63 gates.
It's very hard to do that. Ashley was straight in there about two thirds of the way through.
Emma and I were just like, could we pause? And he said, no, you mustn't pause. You've got to get
to the end. If you pause, you'll feel really full. So we got to the end of this. And there are two
images. I will never ever forget as long as I live. Somebody baked an E type Jaguar cake
with purple icing. I've forgotten who it was in front of me. It's certainly one most jaguar
shaped cake. And we had to give a best engineering prize to a straight six engine, which even had
a dipstick in it. It was quite funny. I think the carburettors fell off because it was so hot.
You pointed out that he tried to keep them up, but you couldn't do it. It's very jaguar.
Very jaguar. Very, very passionate day. Wonderful day. Thank you, everyone.
Well, there you go. And I'm sure there'll be other ones. But I hope that we remain,
as I've used this phrase collectively, ambitiously amateur. We will never want to come
across as being too professional. No fear of that. But I like the fact that hopefully it
feels like the four voices you're familiar with that happen to be out and about. Now,
the weather's been wonderful. So there must be some pent-up stories of what you've been doing
in your motor vehicles in the last week. Chris Cooper, what have you done? What have you driven?
Where have you been? So the morning after the Jaguar day, and I sent you all a picture from
from home about 4.57 in the morning. It was a beautiful really just before the southeast of
England got really, really hot earlier on this week. I drove down to Cornwall. And there is
nothing better than an early, I was going to, we've had a number of Duvalon tenders to start this
podcast. So I'm going to limit myself. I'm going to limit myself. There's nothing better than
getting up early in the morning. Can I get away with that? Yes. In my SL63 with the roof down
and drive all the way to Cornwall. Sort of, it's the shorter way, but it's the long way around. It's
down the M3A3A3A30 over the black downhills, through Cornwall, past the nearly home trees,
down the Roseland Peninsula. It was just lovely. And just the smells and the warmth in the, and
just it was lovely. So this time of year, finding an excuse to be up before five o'clock in the
morning. Take a photograph. Just the colors. You can almost smell the summer, the early summer. It
was just wonderful. So I can't recommend it enough. It's next couple of months when it's
beautiful early mornings. Get up really, really early. Take a photograph. Whatever you're in,
go somewhere. Take a photograph because you'll look at it in the winter and you'll think
happy days were past and future.
Neil Clifford, I mean, you must have driven 47 cars in the last week because everything's
sunny now. Is everything going well? Well, you know, I was so overwhelmed by the Jaguar thing
that I can't really think of anything else interesting that I've done in cars. But I would
like to, because this segment is called What Did You Do In Cars For Good News? And I would like to
celebrate the Gucci Alpine new collaboration. Yes. Because I saw that yesterday and thought,
you know what? That's really bloody cool because it's a company that I've heard of,
because all those tech companies and, you know, SoundSweep and Infosys and CenterPoint and all
those other companies that are obviously amazing companies, but you've never ever heard of them
or you don't know what they do. And because we can't do fags anymore, which is such a shame,
because fags were the best branding marketing ever on a Formula One car to see a brilliantly
iconic fashion brand. And of course, you know, they're all with LV as well, you know, it's one
of the places that brands do want to be seen in, global audience, blah, blah, blah, young people
now because of Drive To Survive. I think it's just wonderful to see Gucci written on a car.
How cool is that? So I'm very, very excited about that. I can't wait. Presumably this is next year.
It's not like next week. That's a good question, is it? I know, I thought that was... Yeah, odd
time to do it. It's not time to do it. Yeah. I think it's probably caring what to be seen of doing
positive things for Gucci. But I think, you know, I think let's not go into the trade too much,
but I think Demner is a genius. So I think they're going to be fine. But I think Gucci on a car,
how cool is that? We like the positivity as ever, Mr Clifford. Manage. Don't scotch the Gucci thing
now. Don't be rude about the Gucci thing. I would never be rude about the Gucci thing.
Flavio Breatori bought that deal in. That's what you need to know. Absolutely what you need to know.
Actually, he made two good decisions. He also decided that Alpine should have Mercedes engines
and look at where they are on the grid. Talk about two high level decisions, which have gone very well.
I was just going to say, I got to drive Lola to Oxfordshire and then to Neals. I had this one
moment coming off a very, very hot M40, where I turned left quite hard because basically there's
a 180 when you come off at Junction 9 and then come off again. And water poured over my left foot.
And it was quite cold. And it literally looked like Lola peed on me through a hole
in the central console. Which you have to say is still, that's, I mean,
as people pay for that, but it's niche. Yeah. Well, I just didn't like it. Anyway,
I pulled up the rather wonderful, the rather wonderful Alistair from Ken Tyre Performance.
Didn't need to, but responded to my text and said, don't worry, it's just
condensation from the air conditioning. And you don't need to worry about it. Are you sure
it's water? It was sniffing my socks. Yes, it was. And I called the AA. Can't pay for that as well.
Very nice man called Jason. Sorry. People pay for that as well.
Possibly. A very nice man called Jason from the AA came and had a look.
Said, this is very, very common. And stared at Lola and said, God, I wish I had a car like
this for a long weekend. Had a little, had a little look inside. So this is very pretty.
Took a couple of selfies. And off they went. And then after that, what are we doing cars?
After the wonderful Jaguar event, the wonderful JK invited us to his rock star pad and showed us
around a few of his cars. I have to say Aladdin's Cave just doesn't do some of his cars justice.
That was so much fun. Played us a bit of his new album. I mean, in 30 degree day,
you buy a pool, you're watching a rock star dance and sing. And you've seen some of the
loveliest cars that there are. That is a week in cars. So I've driven so many weird little cars
in the last week. I've had a good week when I've had a good varied week. I've had done
everything from the old, the V10 M5 to the M3 CS, both of those tourings. The big old
Daimler came out for the Jaguar day and performed faultlessly in what was some quite high temperatures.
Temperature needle did not even move from the straight ahead. So I'm very pleased out of it.
And I think the car that I might want to talk about is I might have just bought another 205XS.
There are a bit of an issue for me these that every time there's one for sale,
I'm an obvious target. So word gets ran. Harry should buy that. So I've got I've got a few of
these now. I bought a red one. And I have to say it is the best one I've got. He's absolutely a
superb little motor car. Why is it better than the ones you've got?
It's just new. No, it's actually got more miles. But it's been it's had a bit more remedial work.
Its suspension butting is absolutely on point. So it feels exactly like you're near a new.
It's steering has not be slickness and lack of friction and the others lift the racks getting
a bit worn. And and I think the engine in this one is just some of them maybe were better. There's
just an absolute honey. This one is it's just and the gearbox and the relationship between the clutch.
It's just it's a joy to drive. What I did do was I took a moment because I had to drive from the
I'd drive down the A420 which is that road that takes you from Oxford Swindon.
Quite a busy road. And I was driving down that's wobbling along quite happily. It is quite nice
when people recognize you and you're driving a car they don't expect and it's a quite a small
charming car. I think it probably leaves a good impression. People think I thought he was a complete
wanker and I think he's less of a wanker. I don't think I'm not a wanker. They think I'm less of a
smaller one. Yeah because I'm yeah I'm still a wankerette rather than a full
wanker. Is that a lower coefficient of onanism?
Yes I think you're absolutely right Mr. C. You can have that one although you did miss the
opportunity to to fit the word glory into your description of the Mercedes earlier so that's
making up for it. So I was driving down the 420 and I stopped in a lay-by because I just dawned
on me that I was in a red 205XS almost I don't know 30 something years before I'd done exactly
that journey in a red XS. My my third ever car was a 205XS a red one and I used to drive it
between Bristol and Oxford Poly where I was a student if you can call it being a student
where I where I spent time drinking and and that was my rat run and I suppose the muscle memory we
have for roads is also particular to the car that we were driving at the time and I the weird thing
is I can't remember who I spoke to last week but I remember approaching a section thinking I know
this bit should be in fourth not fifth and it was my brain knew exactly what the gear change points
were on the road 30 something years later but I couldn't tell you what I had for lunch last week
and I I really did soak up what it was like to remember being 19 20 years old in that car at
that time I I was so happy there were no troubles in the world I had no responsibilities I just had
this little car and my father would give me fuel to present it and I bought this car to remind
myself what it was like to be young and I think we should all do that go and go and use a car as
a way to borrow into your past it's what we all do get on car and classic now and go buy something
that reminds you of a great drive or a friendship or a time in your life that's what I did this week
and I really really enjoyed it and the red one is the best one excellent um let's move on now to um
oh here we go any car plans for I don't know what I'm going to change this one's too similar to the
last one let's move on to the next one we'll come back to that they won't make cars like this again
this is the last because dot dot dot in other words how can you use they won't make one of those
again as an excuse for buying a car I happen to be right in that zone at the moment so I can talk
about that in a second um Chris Cooper anything that anything like that that's happened to you
recently or is it current thought process yes 150 million percent there is um it's alpina
and there is one on car and classic I think the auction's gone live now it's a I mentioned it
in my two car garage last week it's a 2015 uh f10 b5 um talking of the two car garages has
anyone noticed that current classic have now got a little voter thong thing going to ask the great
public of the world what they think of each of our selections if you notice that mr harris I think
you know yes I have and you've had some success in recent weeks but please don't get
too arrogant about it because I'm competitive when you know what I'm saying is that competitive
history shows that when you get confident the guardrail tends to loom into sight
so just just keep it on the black stuff and stay modest all right I'm enjoying a brief moment
pointing in the right direction on the right line with the right momentum because I think
it's basically now 22 you and me isn't it after the first last four weeks worth of anyway
so I'm too busy working to do my own voting you see that's why I have a holiday going
it's not a holiday it's research
sneak of research very good I believe I think that part of it was that very
very clear punctuation when alpina now owned by bmw the brand being owned by bmw the company alpina
still exists doing their vineyards and classic stuff and they made you other things as well
but the brand itself which is really old really when you sort of it's a family owned business and
you've given up the brand which absolutely personifies who you are father and son and multi generations
but when the new alpina was shown at villadesta which is it villadeste or villadeste I never
understand that one villadeste beautiful looking car that you've looking car it just made you think
god I gotta buy it and I found when I came down here obviously really really early
on Sunday I did a bit of housekeeping but tidying up which usually means moving one large pile of
car magazines from one place to another that's housekeeping for me moving car magazines around
don't throw any out because you never know and there was one in there I can't quite reach it's
over here it was from 2022 summer 22 so four years ago really and it was when they were talking about
alpina just Andy Bovenseepen was talking about well we've kind of coming to a decision about what we
do and we may have to you know do our own thing and maybe bmw take on the brand and do what we
want to do with it and there's an article in there and also car which was about the best alpinas to
buy and you just have all of them it's like going it's like dog they're all 14 out of 10
it's like going to see puppies and dogs they're all you'd have all of them they're all 14 out of 10
so right now I'm on car and classic looking alpinas and one that I picked last week
um that 2015 f10 I might have a little tickle on it because that's definitely not coming back
so I think that's what that's a good excuse buy an old get an old copy of auto car is a really
good excuse go back four years if you need one just ask me I'll send you some and then see that
article 45 years ago and go to find one of those and that's what you should do
Neil Clifford right I'll answer it correctly um
this is the most popular discussion I think between car addicts and it's almost as as valid
as the excuse of all my wife would like that which is which is the other lie that you look in the
mirror and talk about one of those yeah but yeah yeah we all got those two but if you think about
because of this and you know what I'm thinking by the way that this maybe isn't the end of the good
car we know that sort of what's happened this week I think there's going to be a moment where
maybe we all go back car manufacturers do go back laws get changed things change and the v8s
and the manuals maybe they're not over because otherwise
otherwise then people aren't going to be buying new cars anymore to the volumes that
maybe they need to do to keep themselves going and I think what are the most valid ones here
is this the last normally aspirated 911 you know the GT3 we've all been there through
991.1 991.2 into 992 I suppose it was only ended up being the GT3 didn't it everything
else had a little turbo even if it didn't say turbo the f12 being the last of the normally
aspirated v12s and of course we were all slightly disappointed when the 812 came out oh my god we
thought that was going to be a hybrid now that is is the 812 going to be the last v12 Ferrari
without a hybrid the Alpine 110 I think it's such a justifiable little car because they're not going
to make cars like that anymore excuse for actually buying one yeah so I think this is because we are
at this sort of tipping point or are we I suppose is my question is it going to change is it going
to reverse that you've got so many brilliant reasons you know we have our little friend that
we were talking managed mentioned the discussions with people like Jay about oh my god is the
should we buy an f8 and we were talking about it were we on Sunday is the f8
the secret car that it's going to be worth 40 billion pounds in about 10 years time because
no one wants a bloody v6 Ferrari really to the levels that people want a v8 it's a bit like this
it's a bit like 675s LT LT you couldn't give them away for 200 grand a year ago now suddenly
they're 300 grand aren't they so I think everyone's looking into the back catalog and realising
there was such amazing cars in the mid 2000s I think when we come on to our subject later about
car values you know it's it's it's peak car or is it I'm not sure it is I think it's I think the
wind is going to change and we're all going to get caught because good cars are going to come back
I am yeah interesting points there manage what are your thoughts on this do you think you just
humor me and just read out the topic again yeah hold on here you go it is they won't make cars
like this again this is the last because dot dot dot it's an excuse for buying an older car rather
than a newer car because it's an unrepeatable offer and they aren't making new cars like that again
I mean in terms you know your 456 is an example of that in many ways so if you if you
ignore the bit where you explain the actual question you just go they won't make cars
like this again this is the last because excuse for buying a car Ferrari Lucci
he's crowbarred in there just got it in right I have to say that we'll come to this maybe a
bit later on as well we've done our emergency pod podcast on the famous blue electric car but
certainly Neil's comments in that podcast the ff and lusso owners would be sitting pretty
is is probably very relevant I suspect there's there's less fear in the poor sangue community
this morning as well I think you're right manage I think this is interesting for all the points that
Neil made I think it's a window into the way that people are perceived or feel they're perceived
the new cars the latest car for a long time it was very very rare that you found an enthusiast
that wasn't seduced by being seen in the latest thing if you could afford the latest gt3 or f12
whatever I think you probably did get them and you even if you might have preferred driving
the previous one you like the fact that you had the latest one and you rolled with it because it
had carplay or whatever else it was quite it took a brave enthusiast to say do you know what I'm
going to ditch my 991 gt3 because I prefer the 997 but you know that most people wanted to be in the
latest thing I think that's what's changed now is I think a lot of people will rock up somewhere in
a car that's three or four years old because they prefer driving it and they don't give a monkeys
whether people don't think they've got the latest greatest thing that's just come out
to some respects in the way that people have an inner confidence they allow to be seen in public I
think it's quite a good thing that I've always sort of been that way I don't now look like a bit
of a tramp I don't really care what I'm seeing in but I think there has been a a snobbish nurse and
an addiction to just having the latest thing on the latest plate for 40 years in the marketplace
but I think it's gone almost overnight people don't really care do they I think it's most
prominent for me in the goal in the gulf you look cooler in a mark seven than you do in a mark eight
100% yeah yes the um the Daimler Super 8 and I've had to check this I thought the her late
majesties Daimler v8 super deeper thing that um the lovely people at Jaguar Classic
lent to me last weekend uh and with great sadness sort of saw it being loaded into the truck again
beginning this week and off it went back to to its wonderful collection in Coventry um so I had
that for three or four days and obviously I drove it everywhere um there's a surface of milk in
Hertfordshire right now being redistributed various friends and not so distant cousins in other words
because there are lots of chores to be done um apart from it's a stonking bloody car I mean I know
Chris you've got one and actually in our little paddock display there were two or three of them
actually weren't there and they're actually really really good the J gate is just amazing
and you think now everything's got flappy paddles and it's electronic the J gate is kind of a
electromechanical solution to changing gear and but when only once you've tried you think
god it actually works really really well it just because you I don't understand it sorry Neil
I don't understand it isn't it just the same as an automatic gear knob but it's shaped like a J
and that's the the fun of it you'd think well where's the mystery and the magic to it but it
just works so well it's almost where the corners are and you know a massive corner
you don't have to look down if it was just a straight up and down you have to where am I
or but because it's got two corners to it it's like a J with sort of hard edges
you sort of know where you are and it's I thought it was that was I've really enjoyed
everything it's a 22 year old car obviously quite well looked after but bloody hell it was
it was really really magic it's also incredibly beautiful I mean that's the thing the proportions
are so perfect look at those headlights look at the way the back tape is in very very slightly
it's so low compared to I mean it's low modern cars but surprisingly low but look at the space in
the back I only after having it for a day did I because I was thinking about the fun we'd had in
Her Majesty's mausoleum up in crew I thought there must be a secret hatch in here somewhere
where the the buttons are stored and it was actually sort of just in front of the gear lever
and it had this sort of quite military looking sort of buttons and so forth for sirens convoy
horn flat and I thought it they're here and I got the boys say look I'm going to press this button
you see anything and when I nothing seemed to work and when I saw Dom and Paul range from
Jaguar Classic on Saturday I said did you take the fuse out and they said I'm really sorry but
we did so you can't drive down the road a million miles an hour with blue lights flashing but yeah
it was fantastic yeah it's a it's a perennial subject and I agree with Neil it's the one that
seems to come up most on my groups with car people friends is that you know why would you
I mean I like the new m5 I really do but if you gave me that one m5cs I'm taking an m5cs
that all day long of course I am and I I think you can make the predecessor argument with just
about every car at the moment and therefore for me and this is probably another public
conversation next week if you if you apply the predecessor argument the cars that really succeed
in that sphere are the ones that have been in production for a long time and a bit long in the
tooth yeah suddenly you'll actually that there's a real benefit in being a bit of an old buddy
daddy because you don't have all the stops start quite the level of you know lane departure shite or
or you know this some of the modern stuff I simply can't handle it's not there you're away and free
aren't you I think the joke is they've even stopped it's sort of almost worse than that isn't it you
know Audi r8 you can't buy one anymore right can you so a lot a lot of these cool cars have been
everyone's just given up on sports cars so not only is all I must get the v10 manual r8
you know blah blah blah but also you can't buy the new one anyway which which frankly I don't
really understand well that yeah I mean the part of the reaction to to this crazy European Union
electric vehicle push is that a whole lot of cars are going out of production but now there's probably
a suggestion if you're a car company boss you've been thinking do you know what
the reaction to this could mean that we could do this again but the cost the cost of
retooling the cost of doing it will be so great I don't think it'll happen I can't see it and
what might happen in my prediction is that there'll be some very low volume efforts and if I was a
car company if you can't do it yourself I'd be looking to buy a little a little car company that
could maybe do something on behalf of yourself you know if you're a BMW and you stop making the
z4 why couldn't you buy a visman and buy visman and say well we'll do 2000 vismans a year or
something I think that we're gonna see some interesting relationships emerge from this
but it's a positive story yeah because I've round off what Neil said I think when we started
doing these podcasts under a different guise many years ago we were we felt we were absolutely
saying with some certainty that that's the last of these sorts of cars you're gonna see and I don't
I think we were wrong I think we were wrong I think it's coming back yeah you're right okay
uh let's go to uh plans for the next few months in cars who's got a plan uh and who can inspire
those of us that bother listening to this rubbish that they should go and do something in a car
this summer I'm going to go straight to Chris Cooper um can I give a brief mention to the
Thruxton Howell which is a week on Saturday so on Saturday 6th of June we've got this extraordinary
noisy track day one of two spaces left you've got a very very noisy car I want to be crowned
Britain's Noisiest Car with the amazing Noismy Thruxton um we've also still got space for
those who want to come watch and join the podcast in the evening so go to the Thruxton website
you'll find both tickets there um and I think that will be really really wonderful and fingers
crossed we get weather like we had for the Jaguar date so what what I should have said and
preface that is that can you can you please promote something that isn't one of our events
and sounds like shameless pitching on our podcast so start okay and Neil Clifford what are you
going to do you're always planning thing to do uh classic Le Mans you know this this this if you
yeah everyone should go I'm embarrassed for you if you're not going in fact I mean you just by
yourself parking Arnaj which is like 30 euros for the weekend an entry ticket is like 70 euros
get yourself a cool box 12 volt charger cool box whack in some cheese some baguettes I don't drink
so I don't want wine but you know diet coke whatever water mainly because it's normally 700 degrees
in in in Le Mans in July and just sit take a camp chair and sit at Arnaj for two days
that's what I'm going to do there's great bogs there if you want a bit of hot food you get
you can get a bucket of chips without four euros and you see you know there's 30s 40s well not a
lot happened in the 40s in cars did it because of sort of a war on so 30s 50s there's a bit of a
decade missing there um 60 70s 80s I think it goes up to 80s now hopefully it will grow even more
and it's just bloody brilliant and it's cheap and it's a lovely five hour drive from the ferry or
even be be more adventurous oh sorry from five hour drive from the tunnel even get a ferry from
Portsmouth um so I think we've corralled four or five of us are going to do that there's loads
more I want to do I've got a little dream sort of trip to Wales in three or four jaguars that I'm
going to do with my mates I've never been up to that poor merrian thing I want to do that and
frankly Wales I know Chris would be like shut up about Wales I don't want everyone going to Wales
because it'd be too bitty but I think Wales is a very underrated everyone does that NC 500 thing
up in Scotland bloody long way and it's a lot of caravans and a lot of midges so go to go to Wales
instead and to be honest I need more plans I'm annoyed with myself that there isn't more on
my agenda I'm going to Sicily in a couple of weeks actually rent a little fear Uno drive about
I have one euro coffees and one euro croissants but we should all just do more because it's
you're happier when you're driving somewhere random but manage any plans a couple um
I'm going to go to the concourse Deligante Hampton Court which I just think is I just love the event
it's just an outdoor museum with that beautiful building behind you those lawns it is kind of
the Hinley of car events for me I just think it's just it's so civilized so elegant and
I'm always drooling over something and last year I met Albert Hitchcock and have made a friend for
life on the back of seeing a most beautiful iso and that's just it was a jaguar day
he was and it is lovely when you just meet someone you just chat away to them and you go
this is a friendship this is actually a friendship so that's the the first event the second one I
think it's an inaugural event it's the concourse Deligante at Wilton House I've been invited up to
that three-day event and what I think it's going to be exciting about that that's a bit of history
car literature there's going to be music and the thing that I I'm going to be very starstruck
and I think I'm going to be stuttering a lot because it's got some incredible people Andy Green's
going to be there Richard Noble Richard Atwood but the person that I am literally going to shake
if I get a chance to shake his hands um Valentino Balboni is going to be there
wow and if Valentino Balboni is going to be there I'm just going to sit him down and
hopefully pour him a big glass of something and just listen to him describing you know the birth
of the Kuntash his early days and I mean I'm sure he's had this conversation with 10 million people
but it would be something very special to have that conversation there's a movie there
oh you know they've had a go at Lamborghini movies but you're absolutely right a movie about the
birth of the the Moura or the birth of the Kuntash what what an incredible
movie about young people who just do stuff that will be so they might and I'd love to drive to
I'm thinking about this but I'd love to drive Scotland in Lola I'd love to do that this summer
go up to the pool yeah you know a little stop at what what
so I'm going to a classic limon as well I'm actually going to a word I don't know we share
my personal life on here do I but I've got lots of Peugeot 205s and we're going to me and my kids
are going to take three of the 205s and go on holiday in them that's what we're doing so we're
we're having three Peugeot 205s I'm not going to say where we're going but it's in France
not not so a fancy bit and we're going to take after I've finished classic limon we're going to
go off for a week in three 205s and have some treasure hunts and and probably break down lots
but I just think it's about time we enjoyed these little cars and I'm much more excited about going
away in 205s than I am in a bloody supercar it's funny isn't it I can't so they're the red one's
brilliant the black the black one is being sorted out at the moment and I've got an old rally as well
that that's getting ready for the job and we might and if that we might take the ax gt but it's got to
be a very low powered you know sub 90 sub 100 horsepower french hatchback and that's what we're
working plan for something around the solstice I think there's something quite romantic about
about using the longest day I know it's a bit of a cliche when it comes to driving the longest day but
I think I'd like to head north and so I'm working something out now which involve a
whiskey distillery so I quite like the idea of going somewhere long way north and buying something
that I really have always wanted in terms of whiskey and maybe I'm maybe repatriating it
back here so but I have got other plans as well so I've got some motorcycle plans I think
that those of you that like motorcycles obviously the weather's with us now and I really want to
I want to go down to those long open roads in France if I can maybe you know a little bit
sort of Lyon area exit around there there's some amazing roads so I'm working out a plan there
with a couple of pals to go do some riding other than that yeah a bit of the daily grind but I
haven't got I haven't got enough in the bank as Neil says anymore yeah I know that let's move on
okay let's talk about the F1 now uh we'll move to our football correspondent Manish what are you
gonna say what a very exciting race we were all exchanging texts I don't think everybody was saying
this is you know this is the one that's going to be really really tough on the cars and really
exposed the the bad new rules but the bottom lines I remember Bernie once said it he said
you don't need uh 10 teams all you need is one team with two competitive drivers
and that'll give it to you and I have to say the first until George's car conked I have to say that
that is some of the most exciting formula one I have ever seen in my life I'm 58 got into this
when I was 11 it was Kimmy just wouldn't give up and because of this slightly strange temperature
for once being behind the car in front was actually an advantage it was great it was
absolutely great that he was you know you could keep your tires warmer you could attack better
he attacked at some great places and what you really saw was genuine cat and mouse it was um
kind of great seeing uh max at the sharp end it was also fantastic seeing the max
Lewis battle max was not giving that place up Lewis was going to take it he had a better car
Lewis shaded charl this weekend and I was reading him afterwards that he went a different direction
with his engineer and feels much more positive about the car much more positive now about the
season um it was it was frustrating if you're a McLaren fan which I am I I don't really I've read
about it but I still don't quite really understand the logic of deciding to start on the inters I
maybe they had a different weather forecast but both drivers clearly felt it wasn't the right way
to go and sometimes I think you've got to got to go with the guy in the cockpit um so that was a
shame because I think actually those two up there would have made the whole thing even more exciting
I mean I could really really see that would have been hell of a race but I guess it bodes it bodes
well for Monaco um we've got Monaco in a week and um these cars are a bit smaller they're a
little bit narrower there may be a bit more racing I think Monaco will be I mean I have no idea
dear what that's going to be like in terms of energy track but if this was supposed to be a bad
one I can't wait for the good ones because it was just a thrilling race again Kimmy
Antonelli four Grand Prix on the track rare territory now very very rare territory and do that
and I think it's isn't he now already sort of the fourth highest-winning Italian driver with that
it's kind of crazy isn't it I think Paul Michele Alberto I think he only won five Grand Prix
in his entire career you know in his time with uh I remember one he won for Tyrell Las Vegas 83
that was insane and then he won the remaining races for for a very very difficult period in
Ferrari's history so Antonelli I mean he's just turning into this absolutely pint-sized superstar
credible um yes I agree with all of that Urquoise Cooper I didn't see the race
um two reasons one I fell asleep uh because it was a Sunday evening after the jacket and
I've been up very early in the morning so I literally fell asleep um I've read about it
so I have um I have sort of covered sort of caught up on some of it uh I know I'm in a minority of one
on this seemingly in the world I feel sorry for George um he's had a tough couple of breaks this
year I mean I think he drove in quali he was brilliant sprint race he was good um and in as
far as I can tell from watching reading stuff um he had the race under control um and I think
tough it must be you know I say tough you know he's at the top of his career sport
he's driving that car he's been paid pretty well for it so it's not a soft story is it um but
he must look at it think hang on a minute I was I was the future once when he was signed and then
spent three years at Williams and then Lewis hung around a bit longer and Lewis was the goat
and then suddenly Kimmy's here and Kimmy's is super quick he is clearly super quick and it must feel
so much of the time that that is a team orientated around Kimmy because of Toto's relationship with
Kimmy's dad and Kimmy's is sort of you know surrogate son really many respects I do wonder
how far or what it would be like if Toto because he's still obsessed with max a couple times this
weekend I saw Toto when they were talking about the sprint race and some of the argy bargy there
Toto referred and reverted to well what would max have done left the door open
would max have closed the door blah blah blah you think so it feels like in Toto's mind max is
still the guy and he is still the guy clearly even though he's car struggling a bit so you know and
Ford got their first podium in the new I don't I'm not sure anybody sort of said anything about I
thought that's quite impressive their first podium from standing start um so I just wonder if because
you have to say if max did go there right now you'd have to say and I just said this last year as well
the obvious casualty in Toto's mind would be George because Kimmy is his surrogate son and he
wants max how would Kimmy and max get on I just kind of think that is definitely two balls in a field
neither of whom are going to back down so I I actually wonder whether max
would ever end up driving for Mercedes if Kimmy's there I don't know anyway I might watch next
I was a picture of Joss in the Mercedes hospitality or having his pat there
I personally think that however explosive that might be between Kimmy and max nothing like
George and max there's there's no love love loss there at all it's fine I do admire your support
for for George um I do think at times he's he's tough to he is tough to really get behind in a way
that you might feel an affinity with other drivers and he made a I think well a very unwise utterance
a few weeks ago where he was he was somehow I think I don't know when he got cornered into it but
he basically he was allowed to be quoted as saying if I'd arrived at Mercedes soon I'd have
I'd already have two world championships and Will Buxton leapt on that I think rightly so
it's difficult to say that kind of thing and not have people go well you know could or should
her you know if my if my auntie had had a cop then she'd be my uncle you know it's one of those
isn't it yeah and I suppose my reaction to that at the time was I didn't like
Will Buxton's reaction at all I thought that was unkind really and and I guess
equally you didn't think that he was unwise of George to say that so I sort of think it was an
insight to the frailty of the humankind in that George clearly is not you know he he might is a
bit of him in all of us which is you sort of you end up saying something is it oh god that came out
wrong or I didn't quite mean that don't they know who I am I think it's just sort of a natural you
know I don't know him very well I've met him a couple times you know what I'm saying I've met him
a couple times I met his dad and they're nice people I would normally
completely align with you but I whether they're nice people or not is immaterial to me that I
assume they're nice people but nothing against them at all I love the journey this is someone
that's achieved something that I can't even imagine he's a driver of remarkable skill however
there's one word that I think that comes through the way that he's reacted to adversity this year
and particularly that public utterance it's entitlement I think he's made that classic
mistake that many sports people do that he was the next heir apparent he's waited his time and
when it's arrived it's not quite what he expected it to be and if you drill into that the failure
and expectation is that it should sort of be happening for me now but it's not and why is that
and I think I think that's because there are no guarantees in life the only you get the more you
realise it because that means I get it's not I get the frustration that it's not happening but he's
I think he's been slightly shown up this year and I and I the great thing about being shown up is
now we'll get to see what he's really made of I think what was great about Canada was a different
George arrived thinking differently driving hard differently and that's what makes the sport so
entertaining and that's why I think the first 20 whatever four laps of it were about as good as
I've seen in years I can't believe you didn't see it Chris it was yeah it was without a doubt
the best dog fight I've seen because so many for technical reasons the cars could follow each other
and and that wasn't just the low temperatures it was it was a confirmation of the new era
regs work you know they could follow much much closer than they could this quirk of the track
temperature allowing the front to heat up and give him obviously slightly better front end on the car
as the following car was that was a quirk but it gave us yeah it's lovely sort of dive bombing
opportunities that were going on through the grid I have really not enjoyed this year's racing
but this was some out of the blue for me I've not seen anything like this right so
those of you watching well I just stopped mid-flow it was actually Cooper's ruse to
stop me talking about George Russell obviously he's incentivized us for no negative about
all the talk so I'll do some more but Neil Clifford's recording dropped out so if you
can't hear him for a bit or you didn't see him for a bit he's worse with the technology
than I am he's the only person who's worse than I am with it so the two things about
about about the situation for I found fascinating were that we had real racing as opposed to that
sort of yo-yoing bungee thing where someone gets past and then someone else deploys a bit of totally
ridiculous technology and appears to get straight back past them so it felt like you could make
overtakes stick and even though they were yo-yoing at the front that I felt that was just because
they had equal pace actually that's not fair I think Kimmy had more pace than George and he
did have he did have more place but it was it was totally engrossing racing as I'll answer
managers point on the on the inters quite often if you go to a demonstration to form a one and
they don't have tire warmers they will if the car's going to do one or two laps they will run it on
an inter because it's a much softer compound and over a couple of laps it really you can have quite
a big advantage over a slick so I think McLaren's gamble does look like madness on paper but obviously
they they had some info about the the the weather but also the track temperature was so low I think
they thought that they would get track position from the start they would have a there'd be a load
of madness behind them it almost guarantees some sort of a shunt behind them and there it was a
a gamble in terms of narrative but I don't think it was as big a punt as people thought
what I do find odd is that they didn't change them straight away yes on both cars but you know
they didn't Landau had they both had very quiet races actually didn't they but actually
Oscar had quite a noisy race in ways that you don't really want to remind yourself of but
it was the first time weirdly I'd seen Oscar because what I absolutely love about him is it's
absolute unflappability you know when something really massive happens on track he'll turn
and go well that wasn't very classy just very quietly he had a hell of a ding dong
race didn't he it was a pretty unpleasant moment at the chicane who did he put with Alex that's
right he basically you know it's very very unlike Oscar he dive bonded and took him out I mean it was
bizarre I know you just wouldn't imagine that with him I wonder if there is a little bit of
frustration and you know there are a few rumors aren't there that he's been seen in the kind of
red bald hint and so on and so forth you know this stuff happens I guess and he was seen at
Ross's garden yesterday he now knows what it's like to see men with really big testicles yeah yeah
I saw that picture yeah for me it was a very uplifting race because I've been very cynical
about this year I just I could I sort of had to bring myself to watch it rather than fall asleep
by mr. C did but actually I'm really glad that I stayed awake because the the opening laps were
a reminder of why Formula 1's brilliant why the drivers are exceptional how they didn't make contact
I don't know they were just proper dogfight stuff Neil Clifford I presume you didn't watch it because
you've been up since four well that yeah exactly and and I had to go to bed early because I get up
very early and work very hard but I did actually watch a race in Canada I watched I watched a
a beautiful friend of mine Andy Bruce and his wife Sue were there in Canada because their daughter
Megan who's a rookie first year in the academy and she she came second and third and sixth first
time she's ever been to Canada so that was for me that was the most impressive thing if you look
at Megan Bruce racing on Instagram she's you know just started in the academy and is amazing driver
and that it looks bloody difficult that that circuit that wall that you've got to you know drive really
really close to looks super bloody dangerous and I did I did wall champion exactly exactly and I
think I think Megan clipped it right at the end and in one of our races is still finished and still
got on the podium but I think I was pleased that Lewis he was on the podium wasn't he was he second
yeah he was I'm more of a George supporter I have to say a bit like Chris actually I know he's a bit
of a Buzz Lightyear character but I think you know but I know I think you know it's a bit wooden but
I think he's he's amazingly talented and lovely and he's British and we want you know we're a
British podcast aren't we I know we're trying to be take over globally but I think good on George
he's brilliant I want I do want him to win a title yeah because he's an exceptional driver
it's just some of it I find a bit tricky that's all but that's but then how how annoying would it
be if we thought they were all great you've got to have me here right I've got to get out of here
quite quickly like the rest of you've got lives to live as well so we're going to move actually
straight to our two car garage if you don't mind um there are time pressures here so here we go
let's just go back to our two how do I describe the two car garage again because you got because I
find it because it was so brilliantly written so this is from Alex Culey yes you do it as
okay if I may without mentioning the war you're not allowed to mention that car anymore I won't
but you have to yeah well I'm fortunate you do kind of have to just okay here we go
idea for the pod uh it's the Ferrari luce two car garage your noun left you a Nissan leaf in her
will so you no longer need to buy a luce you therefore have 600 and 40000
dollars to spend on any Ferrari to go alongside the leaf
it's rapidly becoming a problem you can't get a basic 360 for that now can you the price
okay let's go first with nil clippard um even though really this is a one car garage if I
read it from a non-dyslexia perspective but I've bollocks to that I have to do a two car garage
because I've got a lot of money to spend yeah and I you know what I can't I just can't get past the
Ferrari FF ever and there's a beautiful red one which obviously I'm now on my telephone so I can't
show you a picture of it oh no if I turn around you can see on my phone don't touch your phone don't
touch your bloody phone I'm not touching my phone there look no don't do that there's a red it's a
red and you know what I always thought it was a bit of a dodgy choice of red FF but I saw one in
monaco because I was um in monaco and I thought bloody hell that is a top choice rossa corsa FF
bloody fantastic then and they're currently about underground but of course in about a year's time
they're going to be about 200 grand or even 300 grand because they are probably the best sounding
ever v12 Ferrari so I've got about 300 grand left I think I am finding someone in the world
that doesn't know what the values of the 458 speciale have moved to because they live somewhere
like on the Isle of Man and don't have the internet so I'm very happy to accept 325,000
pound for their speciale not 500,000 and there's one on car classic a red one with red interior
and of course as a two car garage what else you need the last of luka pinnaree
farina it's easy for you to say that um FF and 458 speciale 600 grand done
beat that yeah I think if I think you're around you're in the right area I can't argue with that
nil cliford I'm sorry Chris Cooper uh so I think it's we've got to choose two cars as well
lovely though uh our late nanas nissan leaf will be so how do you kind of decide what to go for
because it's 477,000 pounds as of this morning's exchange rate so I think you kind of got to have
the best of Ferrari the car and classic can offer so I found two things I was thinking
about I was thinking part about the Thruxton howl coming up um and I found I found this
it is it's a 488 challenge car a bell sport and classic Tim Kerns and his lovely colleagues up
there 100,000 pounds for that it's a 488 challenge car I mean that would just be you could race it
you could take a track days it would just be an unbelievable thing that's the first thing I would
do and I thought what would be the best the best of Ferrari that would make up the balance
um I'm just trying to make the artwork at the moment but I think I found a 365 GT
for Berlinetta Boxer for three uh we should put a picture up now I can't find the link
apologies it's not working on my thing um I think it would be a 365 Berlinetta Boxer
it's the London Motor Show car and there can only been a hundred of those so that's my choice
but Manish I have stuck to Alex's rules and just picked one car can you see this
it's not that expensive either it's 250,000 pounds it's a 1970 Ferrari 365 Coupe it's a manual
the V12 Colombo engine I think 4.4 liters it's absolutely mint it's had a fortune spent on it
the interior is completely new uh completely sorry completely original but but looked after
in a way I'll put up some pictures I for me that is a Ferrari I you just imagine this thing
it actually came out in 19 I think 67 just you would just look at that in 1967 and I think
I wouldn't be able to breathe yeah I just would not be able to breathe it's so elegant
so beautiful and it has four seats and that front V12 just magic recipe for me
I thought about this quite long and hard actually you don't have to spend all the money do you
know you really don't and I think there's what I drove one of these last year out of it
in effect on me I think it might be something that I'll try and own in the future this this
has done some miles this one it's 550 Marinello the more I see Marinello's the more I I think
they might be one of the cars it's a simple car it's the last of the real sort of steel
tube things with a bodywork attached to it uh and it's the V12 is isn't that complicated and
and inside doesn't feel too complicated but it looks right it's a Luca car I'm increasingly
obsessed obviously for Manish and I have reasons for this with wanting a Luca Ferrari it's an
absolutely peak Luca car I also happen to know I want to give it away but I think it's one of
his favorite cars as well he was very very proud of it yeah 550 Marinello this one's silver
2,000 miles I think 105 grand for it I mean that's that would have been what they were a year ago
that would have been a 30,000 mile car it was but the price is strong at the
moment uh let's do some music before we toggle off Manish be enlightening please I am in Portugal
and there's a tradition of music here Fado which is it's almost operatic it's very very it's very
beautiful but also very very sort of heartbreaking and there's a woman called Maritza who sings Fado
and there's a particular song called O Deserto that she did it's just heart wrenching beautiful
Portugal sand wonderful lovely Chris Cooper I'm thinking about just the magical day on Saturday
the weather the people the cars the Jaguar celebration beautiful day by you too
I'm 16 next year can you believe this how ridiculously unfair I not only I'm going to maybe
get a tattoo but I'm going to learn to play the guitar I'm doing my list my list of what I'm going
to do when I become 60 and I was chatting to a man last night who's in the band at Ross's Garden
who's got 22 guitars because I love guitars and I go to the guitar shops in London a bit like
stairway denied shops and just look at these beautiful fender telecasters so we decided
that I'm going to learn to play a jam song and I've looked this morning and it's going to be
private hell off setting suns with my black left hand drive fender telecaster
there you go like it like it I couldn't this this little 205
actually yes I've got it's got a rather lovely high-fives being fitted by someone I'm not
a little subwoofer in the boot very subtle one and some better component speakers in the doors
but I couldn't work out how to it's got a complicated Bluetooth arrangement I've now
worked it out but I couldn't when you want your own music in a car you're frustrated aren't you
I had to do that thing I'll better put the bloody radio on and I know I won't want what's on the radio
and I'll flick around the stations I put on radio two the first song that came out was bang on
the white room by cream and I just thought that is the I couldn't have chosen that song myself it's
a better song than the one I would have chosen how that's another topic of discussion that is
it's better when it's on the radio it's a more emotional thing thank you very much uh to my
co-host to Chris Cooper to Manish and to Neil any more housekeeping Mr Cooper any
else we need to talk vlog I think we're done that's so mean horses and puddings okay yes
but I will say there are still some tickets to the live podcast available on the 6th of June
not many but there's a couple so if you fancy having to go go and sign up it's going to be great
weather if you live in the south or southwest it's not that far away from you it's the only one
we'll do this year that you'll be going to all right so come on you'll miss out bye bye everyone
About this episode
Sunshine, cakes, and a big Jaguar crowd kick off the episode’s event recap, including a straight-six “best engineering” prize and even an E-Type cake. Chris Harris then shares an early-morning SL63 drive to Cornwall, a wet Lola driving mishap, and a roadside AA call about A/C water. The conversation widens into F1 strategy, driver dynamics, and why older, naturally aspirated cars are gaining value—before ending with plans like Noismy Thruxton and a family trip using multiple Peugeot 205s.
