KNOCKHILL REVIEW BTCC 2025

Following an uncharacteristically warm weekend in Scotland, who's top of the hill and who's

getting in the way at the bottom of the hill?

This is the Knock Hill Review.

Hello, and welcome back to the British Touring Club podcast.

Yes, we are back once again to take you through all the action from the Knock Hill weekend.

We had a weekend on the sofa watching all the action unfold, and it was quite a weekend

away, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was a weird one because it was action packed, and it wasn't action packed.

It kept threatening to boil over and to really kick off, and we saw some really

good battles, particularly in the midfield, but they're never quite bowled into classic

touring car territory of cars flying left, right and centre, but it was a good weekend

of racing, I agree.

No, you're right.

Most of the action did occur in...

Sorry.

You just said up right.

Wow.

It did occur in the midfield.

It was very much once the drivers got out of the front, they kind of went off on

one of the races quite easily, but that battle from anywhere from 6th down to 15th,

it was anyone's really, wasn't it?

Yeah, and I have to say, Toka have listened maybe to us drivers, fans, and the tyre offset

this weekend wasn't anywhere near as bad as the soft to the hard, who knew, and drivers

on the medium could still compete.

Obviously, we did see one driver in particular fall back through the field, but I do wonder

if that was all setup related, because it was the only one of the ones that did in

that.

But we'll get to all of that, of course, but yeah, no, a good weekend of racing.

Okay, then should we start off with the qualifying on Saturday?

Yeah, qualifying on Saturday wasn't particularly exciting, not a lot happened, so I'll just

quickly run it through sort of the main bits of pieces.

So in the first session, De Leon, Rainford, Camish, Proctor, Sutton and Osborne all went

through good effort by Osborne to get through that pack.

Although, what I would say on the background of that is that people went out, was

Darling, Patterson, Halstead, Lloyd and Chilton, which was a surprise.

Chilton was a surprise, and I think he made quite a few setup changes between the

Saturday and the Sunday, because his pace that he showed on the Sunday, especially

from race two onwards, was actually quite good.

Yep, in the second session, we saw Ingram, Robotham, Moffat, Hill, Aaron Taylor-Smith

and Smiley all progress out went, Shed and Dobble, who did have a spin in this

session, thankfully kept it out of the barrier, but did, very similar to what we

did at Croft, he dipped a wheel where he shouldn't be dipping a wheel than the

cast bum round, but thankfully, no other problems other than tension

needing a new overall when he got back to the garage.

Hamilton, Buxton and Morgan also in that session, the two Hyundai's out in

the first session, which was a bit of a surprise.

Quite surprising as we were going into the weekend, we thought, OK, it's probably

going to be a napper forward versus virtue Hyundai battle this weekend.

And the BMWs came up with a bit of a surprise, didn't they?

I mean, it was a bit of a surprise to some people, but not to me.

I did, in the preview, say that I thought this would be a track they

would come back stronger, and they did.

They did indeed.

The second part, getting to the quick six, saw De Leon, Hill, Proctor,

Ingram, Rainford and Robotham make it through.

So that's three of the four BMWs went through out.

Went Camish, Moffat, Aaron Taylor, Smith, Smiley, Osborne and Sutton,

who nearly rolled the car.

He did say after that, that he was pushing the envelope as hard as he could

to try and get into that super six or if you want to call it a shootout.

And in doing so, he really went hard

through the stipp up onto the two wheels.

I think J.

Edward said on Sunday he was on two wheels for 70 metres

before he came back down.

Sorry, it was a long distance.

And he was very lucky that by the time the car was coming back

on its way down, he was just about to enter the gravel.

So I think if he was just still up at that sort of angle and a dug in,

who knows what could happen.

And then in the super six, Rainford tops the times,

his first pole in his touring car career from his career.

In his career. Yeah, that's actually true.

Yeah, you're right.

Actually, in all sport.

Yeah, that did shock me as well, because he was a quick lad in the

Porsches, but yeah, you're absolutely right.

His first pole in any motor sport.

That's grand.

De Leon came second to BMW one, two.

And that's actually one, two, three, because Hill was third.

And to be honest, once they'd set their early laps,

also they don't come into the tyre cross,

nobody was getting close to them.

The tracks sort of decelerated really quickly.

So after the opening, sort of four, five minutes of the

of that session, yellow started coming out across the board,

not flags, sector times.

And nobody was able to really improve.

Robotton did manage to get ahead of Ingram and Proctor in sixth.

However, the post qualifying Daniel Robotton was disquantified

for failing the weight check.

Yeah. And not by just like 100 grams or something like that.

Two and a half. Yeah, this he failed it.

This stunning because we've seen in Formula One,

and I sometimes do bring that up.

But the sort of vessel failed by being like, was it so daft

over under and hungry or having millimetre of too few,

too few, few, a few, that's hard to say.

Now I've been drinking, yeah.

No, but to see two and a half kilograms.

That is, you know, that's a lot of.

Yeah, I think his little social media post on Saturday evening said

they run the risk of being right on the limit.

But for me, that's not the limit.

That's already running possibly under the limit

and trying to get away with it almost.

Yeah, it is normally only the top three that get tested.

It was just, I think, a case of that Robottons was spot tested,

which as you say, you know, if a couple of grams over,

you feel sorry for them, because you can tell our tyre wearing

right kind of stuff, but two and a half kilos.

That's a lot to be under by.

So yeah, put to the back of the grid for race number one,

which we'll get into now.

Yeah, so race one on Sunday then

and six drivers started race one on the soft tyre.

We saw soft and medium this weekend

and a lot of people wanted to get that medium done out the way

so they could run the soft for the rest of the weekend.

Knowing that the gap between the tyre offset

was only about three to four tenths.

Yeah, you slightly surprised that the BMWs opted for the soft in race one,

given obviously they don't know until you don't know in advance

of what anyone else is running.

And once you've elected that, you can't then change

and you see what's on the grid unless wet weather comes into play.

But I'm slightly surprised that the BMWs didn't go on medium

for the first race.

So bear in mind that the three of them could work together.

They were going to get a good start guarantee

because the way the way the rear, I really can't speak tonight.

The way the rear wheel drive cars get off the line.

And also the fact they're dominated and qualifying as well.

I'm a little bit surprised.

And also the three of them at the front.

I'm surprised maybe one of them didn't split the strategy

and go to medium, perhaps,

because obviously if they ran the medium in race one,

as we were I'm sure we'll get to and they finish on the podium.

That's it. They don't have to run it again.

They can still run the soft in race two and capitalise from there.

Yes.

So as you mentioned,

Hill, Rainford and Lee on all were running the soft tire,

along with Proctor from fifth and then also Osborne and Patterson,

who were much further down into the pack.

That surprised me a bit more,

the fact that Osborne and Patterson were going to run them from where they were.

Yeah.

Also surprised me that Proctor from where he was decided to run it as well.

You know, again, because he would know what is going on.

Obviously, you know, your teammates are going to be going on.

I'm slightly surprised that they didn't because Ingram needs to push forward

and make sure he finished head of ash.

I'm surprised they didn't stick strategy together

so they could Proctor could basically help Ingram through.

I kind of think they wanted Proctor on a soft to try and go and mix it

with the BMWs possibly cause a little bit of havoc.

And then Ingram was there getting the medium tire out of the way,

finishing as high up as possible to make the most of the rest of the weekend,

which she kind of then went on and did.

As you expect, BMW got an excellent launch.

Moffat, even on that medium tire,

got a really nice car around the outside of a couple of drivers off the line

and row bottom was actually actually up to up six positions by the end of that one.

Having obviously started from the back for being disqualified for the underweight car.

Proctor then got through on Ingram by lap three down at the hairpin.

Yep, good move. I'm surprised this didn't happen a little bit earlier.

It's tricky because the BMWs had already made a decent lead at this point.

Yeah, it's tricky because the problem lock is it is so short and far

so that there's not many obvious places to get out of the way.

The hairpin is one of them.

But of course, if you go too wide and we saw this a couple of times

with people coming through, someone will nip up behind you

and you get shuffled out even further.

Or you can just put the brakes on going across the line.

Subjects of flags.

All three BMWs were bumper to bumper at the front

and they were running fairly clear as we were going to expect

being on that soft tire as dominant as they were qualifying.

We kind of knew that at that point they would go off up the road.

It was just how they were going to play together and how that would all filter out.

Ingram managed to get a track limits warning very early on,

having used up his three strikes, I think is having a black and white flag

on only lap seven, so he was going to have to be careful for the rest of the race.

And to be fair to him, he did.

But it's very early to use up your lives, isn't it?

It is, but I guess that's the fail.

So for the drives, you know, you can basically get away with it three times.

So push the envelope until you can't push it any further.

But I think he also put cameras up there for this week.

Oh, at knock, it turned to which weren't there last year.

And as he said, his own words when you're a bit stupid like him,

his own words, not mine, he couldn't remember that they were there

and had to sort of relearn that corner to not keep, you know, falling foul limits.

And then the first major sort of like overtaking manoeuvre came

and that was the Leon's Lunge into T1.

I'm not sure you can count as an overtaking manoeuvre

because he did go cross country rally style.

I have to say, have you seen the little bit

that's been put on Google Maps today?

Yeah, the De Leon's Grasscat Services.

I have to say, if I was Dick Bennett's,

I'd be quite annoyed of De Leon at this point

because it's a very clumsy move.

I would argue the move is never on.

And if it is on, it's turned on.

If that's your teammate.

I mean, if you're racing, if that's in front of you

for argument's sake, I still don't think it's on,

but I can understand it more.

But that's your teammate.

What gets it for me is the distance

that he then went off by, obviously, down,

duffers, crossed the grass,

got a load of grass in the front of the radiator.

Yeah, so let's just rewind.

And then had to be really careful

we're coming back on with the other two teammates around him.

Yeah, so let's just rewind it slightly.

So coming into turn one,

the line is that you basically cut into the pit exit

and then you, similar to Donnington Park,

you cut into the pit exit and sweep round.

De Leon decided to stay on the inside,

but very late decided he was going to lunge in on the brakes.

As I say, as you're turning sweeping,

it's a sweeping round corner, if that makes sense.

And it's a drop down at the same time.

And yeah, he basically, he dived through

and it's a quote, Martin Brundle was a day late

and a dollar short, wasn't it?

And just as you say, then careered across the grass

and just filled up the car with dust and dirt.

Yeah, filled the front of the radiator up

and then continued out front as well for a couple of laps.

Didn't really give it back straightaway,

which we thought he's got to give this back.

It's not a choice.

Yeah, I wonder if he thought,

could he run it in clear air for the rest of the race

and then right at the end, swap it back maybe

because obviously his problem is going to be

if he drops back into the pack

and he can't get clean air through the car,

he's got to overheat even quicker.

He was going to struggle to get clean air

through the car anyway with the grass.

But he can't see that, can he?

He can't see them out of grass.

And it's a maybe he thinks, okay, we'll get it to the end

and right on the end we'll swap back

and save a stewards inquiry.

Yeah, a couple of laps later,

he did let both of them,

that's Rainford and Hill through at the hairpin.

And we thought, okay, right, he's seen sense,

but he gradually start to drop off the pace

because he was trying to manage temperatures.

Yeah, I think it would become clear to that point

that he couldn't nurse it

and there was probably more in there than,

I mean, to fair, last weekend

he saw his teammate succeed with a cone in there.

So maybe he felt he could get away

with a little bit of grass in the radiator,

but it wasn't a little bit of grass.

It was every single part that should be clear

was not clear.

Yeah, and it wasn't long until Proctor then followed through

and yeah, his demise through the field started to happen.

Yeah, absolutely.

Osborne was looking really racy on that soft tire as well

in midfield.

He was battling with lots of different drivers,

making some interesting moves

and some less interesting moves.

I don't think he did a lot wrong.

He was very racy this weekend.

He looked for the first time ever, arguably,

really at home in the car

and able to put it to the edge of his abilities

and the car's abilities.

I think, I don't think it'd be a harsh thing

to say that perhaps, certainly from the outside,

it doesn't look like he's got the best out of that car

at times in his nap of career.

But this weekend it felt he was a lot closer.

I feel like in race one

because he had that tire differential

and yes, it's not too much between the soft and the medium,

but I feel like he should have made a little bit more of it

and when he completed a couple of moves

and then dropped back.

I agree, but I think the tire offset

only really came into its own when you're out front

because we saw throughout the weekend

a lot of the tire offset

just struggling to get through the midfield

but it's a tight circuit.

It's relentless.

I remember we watched the onboard of Robot from the start

and you blink and you're already at the hairpin.

It is such a quick lap that I know what you're saying.

I completely get what you're coming from

but I also think here it's just not as obvious as a place

that there's no real long straight

just to drive past them on as it were.

Hill then took the lead on lap 14 down at the hairpin

with a fairly comfortable move on Rainford.

Yeah, he locks up initially

but then was able to get the car back under control

and sweep through on the inside.

Both of them are quite sensible.

We've given each other space.

Yeah, and Hill out dragged him on the start finish line

potentially a boost allocation at play.

I'm not quite sure, but yeah.

That is how to pass a teammate

in a sensible manner, should we say.

And then Aaron Taylor Smith and Osborn were clashing doors

with Osborn going up on two wheels

through the chicane over the hill

which was a little bit risky.

It was, I don't quite know at what point it happened

but Taylor Smith did get a penalty

or a retromance after the race

for more of a changing direction

under defending more than once

which I know is a rule in F1.

I think he did it down into turn one

down the first pit straight basically.

But I've never seen that in touring.

No.

I assumed it was a rule because it makes sense

that in motorsport you can only have one

changed direction when defending

but I've never seen that penalty applied

in touring cars before.

It's very much similar to moving

in the braking zone as well.

I think because these cars can be unstable

in the braking zone, they let a lot more go.

But yeah, this is the first instant

that we've seen of it.

I should also quickly point out

that Taylor Smith, he was deducted

five points coming into this weekend

for an engine change.

I suppose I could have covered that

in a penalty corner.

I was trying to get as many engines

out of that Toyota as possible.

I may have put two in there.

Robot on there was out of boost by lap 17

and really stopped making progress.

He had good progress up till then

and he too was looking racer.

We knew he had the pace from qualifying in Saturday

and it really stunted him

once he'd used up all of his boost.

I'm awfully tired.

Again, yeah, I think this just plays

into what I was saying before

that it is a tough place to overtake.

There's lots of chances to overtake

but because it's so narrow

and you start getting three or four cars

in a battle pack as Alisson would say

it is difficult to get that space to come through.

While those four are fighting,

the next pack are getting further away down the road.

You clear that and suddenly you've then got

to catch the next pack.

Or you're getting people behind you,

catch you up and then you've got to think

about defending.

You get a lot of field spread in Ocule.

Yes, yes, you do.

And then we saw De Leon's demise

through the field.

Ingram got him on lap 17,

followed by Camish, followed by Moffitt

and it was a real sign of how much the car

was struggling to keep hold of the temperatures

and almost protect the car at that point.

And then we saw possibly the most controversial

part was race one.

This has really caused an argument

on social media for what happened afterwards.

I don't understand it.

So we'll talk about the incident first.

So Hill coming around in the lead,

following House Deb around for about a lap or so,

he said afterwards.

Flashing his lights, letting him know

that he was on his way.

House Deb with the course,

get blue flags as Hill got closer and closer.

And again, not just blue flags

from the marshals, they appear on the steering wheel

or dashboard as well.

And going through T1 down Duffordiff into T2,

it's almost like House Deb didn't realize

either how quick Hill had caught him

through that section

or didn't make a decision as to which side

to go safe and allow Hill to go through.

And the two of them actually made contact

at the bottom of the Hill,

which consequently then put House Deb into a spin

and traveling backwards towards turn three

where luckily Hill and Rainford

managed to go around the outside of him.

He was able to control the car well enough

to stop any further collision.

But then the car rolled back into the gravel.

I think it was being kind of

I think the car was dead at that point personally.

I don't think.

And yeah, he wasn't able to get the car back out of the gravel

even though the front wheels of that Cooper

were on the Kerbal or Tarmac.

It's poor.

Look, he's gonna know

that he's made a big error of this,

there's no doubt about it.

And the only mitigation I could put in for him

is that the Cooper is right-hand drive

and the Astra is left-hand drive.

So he's got to relearn all his bearings.

However, however, I could already feel people

shouting at me.

So let me just take it back a little bit.

That's not an excuse.

You're at the premiere of racing or Tin Top racing.

You're an experienced driver as well.

Yeah, it's poor.

It's indefensible.

It's also fair to say that Hill didn't mince his words

in the interview after the race.

And I don't actually think he got too much wrong.

No, obviously we haven't heard how said side of it.

No, a lot of people have sort of said

that Hill's out of order

with sort of the comments he made post-race.

And I haven't got them here,

so I can't say in verbatim,

but it's basically that he should do better.

And I don't think he's wrong.

Also, you've got to remember,

Hill's just got out of a car.

A journalist is absolutely pumping around his veins.

He's been driving 100 mile an hour

plus for the last half an hour.

He's been on well, yes, yes, yes.

That's made obvious.

And then he's almost had a race

taken away from him in a season

where he's not had a great deal of race wins

and he's not been particularly competitive.

And if the car dies on you,

you can, it's part of motor school,

but potentially have a race win taken off for you

or compromised because somebody can't follow the rules

of basic rules that you've taught in karting

or any form of young motor sports you're growing up.

I can understand why he was cross.

And I agree with him.

It was poor and you've got to do better.

You've got to do better.

As a result of House did not be able

to get the car back out of gravel,

safety car was called,

which Dillion was cheering for at this point, I think.

Being able to call the car down under safety car,

we had three laps of safety car.

Yeah, that's, you made the point when we were watching

difficult one for Dillion.

Does he pit under the safety car and clear it

and try and get back on the back of the pack?

And for the problem is a pit stop and lock here

where you can lose two laps so quickly

under the safety car.

You can.

It helps that it would have only been like a quick sweep

out the front radiator and then get going again,

which if you time it, if you get the timing right,

you get lucky with it, then you might be able to do

and now you lose a few positions.

But he could be behind the safety car.

You can cool everything down.

You can take the revs off completely

and just sort of lifting coast for the most part

and just cool everything down that way.

So I think I think he made the right decision

of starting out personally.

Yeah, I mean, it was only Sutton

that got further past him on the restart.

Which could have happened in exactly

and he didn't fall any further back than that.

Upon the restart, Hamilton managed to break

a front track rod end.

Looked like he'd put the barrier at the chicane,

the red cell barrier.

And yeah, the wheel was wobbling.

It made a terrific noise.

Wobbling its way down the road

with one lap to go, basically.

It sounded like a disgraced Australian musician

playing a didgeridoo.

Okay.

I think he was Australian.

But what I would move on to,

what I would say is that the battle

from ninth to fifth was constantly chopping

and changing towards the end of that race.

And it would always be a different driver

coming around in a different position in each lap,

which is exactly what we want to see in the touring cars.

Absolutely.

Proctor then let Ingram through over the line,

just breaks issue or something like that.

I'm stunned by this.

Are you?

I've been completely understand why they've done it.

I completely understand why they've done it,

but I'm stunned by it in so far as

that then meant Proctor had to run the hard tire,

I'll say the hard tire.

Medium.

Yeah, the option tire in race two,

whereas Ingram is two.

Sorry, two, yes.

Yeah.

By finishing on the post.

No, the other way round.

Yeah, right, yeah.

So because Ingram had run the medium in race one

and finished on the podium,

he would then run the soft race two,

along with Proctor running the soft race two

because he would have that option

and then he would have to run that in the final race.

Yeah, I can't remember.

Well, I'm stunned.

I know you're right.

I've got my tires mixed up.

You're absolutely right.

So no, you're right.

It wasn't a particularly strange decision.

It's one I don't like.

I don't like team orders.

I don't like this sort of, but it's the games

and it's how it goes.

And it's the driver that's in the title hunt.

He knows where he stands within the team.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he kind of, he wants to be back next year

and he's got to do these kind of things.

I'm not gonna.

We've seen it from Robotten before,

we've seen it from Camish this weekend as well.

Yeah.

Through Gritted Thief, I'm pretty sure.

Same for Proctor.

I don't look, I say, I don't like it,

but I'm not gonna cry about it

and say it's cheating or anything like that

because it's not, I just,

I don't like team orders, per se,

but it's part and parcel of the game.

So to finalise the running order from race one,

they finished Hill, Rainford, Ingram,

Proctor, Camish, Moffat, Sutton, De Leon,

Aaron Taylor Smith in the Toyota,

up there, finally.

Osborne, Morgan, Smiley, Patterson, Robo and Sheddon.

New engine though, right?

New engine.

So I can know that, that's clearly what it was.

Absolutely.

Okay, moving on to race two then

and Tom Chilton would start at the back of the grid

as he was, it's just qualified on race one

for overboost violations.

The fact that they didn't have the engine mapped

correctly and it was running to much boost.

Yeah, I've always wondered how they got into that

situation and I'm not sure it mattered too much

because it didn't even finish in the top 15.

No, I don't know, I don't really know how that happens.

It's happened quite a few times this season.

I think both Sheddon and Moffat have fallen afoul of this.

I don't really know how it happens

because surely you just send the engine out mapped

like you have done the rest of the season.

I don't fully...

So there will be different maps

that the cars run in different spaces.

Surely you must know what that thing is boost wise.

So you test it before it goes out.

I don't understand it, but then I'm not a mechanic.

Or a program.

No, I'm a record archiver.

So, you know, a slightly different skill.

So yes, he would start at the back of the grid

and only the front two were on medium,

which was near the Rainford.

Obviously Ingram was on medium in race one,

so therefore was able to run soft in this one,

which pretty much guaranteed from the start

that he would be winning the race.

Hal said, had to start from the pits,

unsure as to why.

I do think that's probably linked to race one.

I'd say I think the car died when he got spun round.

Maybe an electrical gremlin,

a fuse knocked out or something like that.

Don't know.

BMW did get away very, very well

and Proctor in particular was slow off the line,

which was a bit of a surprise.

And I would maybe say there's been any criticism

of Proctor this year.

And it's hard to criticize him

because he's had a very good year since he's come in.

He starts having a little bit poor.

We saw a craft you've seen it a couple of times

that he's not fantastic at getting off the line.

And actually, if I think back,

I do think that was a little bit of a problem of his

when he was back in the Civic as well

in the BTC team.

But that's something for him to work on

for next season, for sure.

Ingram was into second at the hairpin,

first time round.

And then by the next lap,

he was at the hairpin again,

rinsing and repeating his move this time on hill.

So pretty much after two laps,

or end of two laps into the lead.

And that was that.

That's the race done soon.

I was going to say there are only a couple

of overtaking opportunities at Knock Hill,

and he certainly makes the most of them

down into that hairpin, doesn't he?

Yeah, absolutely.

Kamish was trying to keep up the charge

and would go through into third.

Again, at the hairpin.

And also, we said about Chiltern

not really making any progress in race one.

By lap eight, sorry, by lap five,

he was up to eighth.

Yeah, it was ridiculous.

He almost felt like they put the extra boost

in for this race.

Yeah, absolutely.

Rainford would then do the good thing

for the team and that moth it through.

Of course, it was on the better tire.

We then saw the first rule

sort of off of the weekend.

Osborne seemingly forgetting where his

brake pedal was going off at speed.

It was driver error and he did choose to pit

to clear the car of dust, gravel and dirt

that had clogged up his front.

Lucky that that didn't dig in

and get stuck in that gravel truck.

De Leon obviously hadn't had much of a chat

with Dick Bennett's after race one

because this time he was giving moth at hell

for a couple laps and two of them were

side by side door banging,

which it's great to see.

It is great to see.

I think this one was all fair as well.

It was all fair and it is great to see.

But on the flip side, if you're Dick

and you're in the pit thinking,

there's not many tracks have been

compared to that this year.

You're watching through your fingers.

Yeah, you're going, lads, lads.

It's not been the best of year.

If you two take each other out,

then I am going to be livid.

But you're right, it did all end up fair in the end.

But it seems to us that De Leon's been a very...

It's not a criticism of him,

but he's a very balshy racer, isn't he?

He's certainly of the hard line racer style.

I was going to say sometimes we saw drivers like Sutton

be like that in the early stages

of his touring car career

and I think he's got to learn that side of it, definitely.

But he will need to temper that at stages,

especially if he becomes the driver we all hope he will be.

Absolutely.

Cameras should then get past hill

after hill lost the rear end of the car

coming out of the complex.

It's a full four-wheel slide.

It was a full four-wheel slide.

I think, again, that's part and part of A of the BMW.

We've seen him do it a couple of times this season.

I think that's part and part of the power of the BMW

is to drive this year.

Hand on the medium tire.

I'd say I'm on the medium tire as well.

Hill would then tumble down the field a little bit off the road.

Again, got away of it slightly,

but would, say, fall down the field with Proctor

and Sutton getting by.

It was late, but a good move by Senna at the hairpin on.

Sutton sort of cut in late to get past, but yeah.

Yeah, a good move, if you can't argue that one.

Sutton would then get by Proctor hard and fast at the chicane.

There's a brilliant little, if you've not seen it,

there's a brilliant sort of real clip

we're going to call it going around the socials today

of that move.

It is brilliant.

He chops back a car so well.

It's so well, isn't it?

He starts on the outside, always behind Senna,

waits for Senna to turn the car in, thinking,

OK, I'll keep on the outside.

And then just swipes across the back bumper,

millimeter perfect.

Floors it and still gets the traction that he needs.

I never really understand it.

No, it is a move that he has pulled many times

about this season, but it is what you call

a trademark Sutton move.

And it's absolutely fantastic to watch.

Ingram would go on to win by the proclaimers 500 miles.

You were so far in front of them.

Yeah, again, and this race, this is basically it for this race.

Race two was sort of definitely the slowest of the day.

Napa did swap positions right at the end of Sutton

going into second and Kamish pulling

wide to let him through.

Again, I repeat what I said about from the first race,

I don't like it, I can understand it.

But for Kamish as well, who mathematically

is in the title fight, you could argue,

but realistically is not.

And he was, of course, the head of Dan Robottom,

which is basically what he's fighting for now,

which is the finished third.

So Tom Ingram won the race from Ash Sutton

from Dan Kamish, Senna Proctor fourth.

Jake Hill, pretty good result on the medium tire

to finish fifth.

Much, much better than Rainford managed to achieve.

Yep, De Leon was sixth, Moffat seventh,

Chilton eighth, great result of him

for the back of the grid.

Daniel Robottom tonight, again,

didn't really make the progress in this race at all.

And on a soft tire, although pretty much everyone was.

Yep, Adam Morgan, round of the top 10

with Aaron Taylor Smith, Chris Smiley, Gordon Shedden,

James Dorlin and Daniel Lloyd making up

the points of pain positions.

You say Rainford dropped all the way out of the points,

which I don't think that was purely tire.

I do think there's potentially some damage to the car

or set up only because you compare it

to exactly the same car that's managed to finish fifth.

Yep.

So I don't think that's purely tire offset, personally.

I wouldn't ask her about it.

We can.

Right.

Osborne and House and Hamilton, I don't think finished,

but anyway.

Then we got the reverse grid,

the first one for Nikki Shields,

who I thought did a wonderful job.

Yeah, she did despite the spider.

Yeah, I think she fit,

I think she fit in really, really well.

And I think, yeah, there's a big shoes to,

big loafers, sorry, to fill from Steve.

She's certainly got a coupe,

Paul O'Neill and Tim Harvey in their face.

Absolutely.

But I thought she had a wonderful opening weekend

along the way that continued.

Of course, she had the pleasure of Tom Ingram

pulling the balls from the jar.

And I was correct.

I called.

I said, if I sat there, it'd be number six.

And it was number six.

To be fair to you, you did.

Do you want to get a point for that?

Tom should know.

Tom Schoen wasn't particularly happy

as he wanted it to be ball eight,

but with the much fairer system

that we have this year, it was ball six.

It was ball six.

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So, race three, then.

Race three, yes.

As you say, ball six was polled,

which put the Leon on to polled, didn't it?

Did.

However, or mediums.

Yes.

Yeah, which probably was a sign

of how much he struggled during race one.

Obviously, with the grass and the radiates,

put him down to polled.

Yeah.

And then the radiates put him down the field

and not having got that medium tire out of the way.

It did put Jake Healing to second,

who had a soft tire though.

Yes.

So it was pretty much.

Yeah.

So the four drivers for race three on the mediums,

that was the Leon Proctor, Osborne and Patterson.

And to be fair, it was a fairly equal start at the front.

We don't see too much difference in the tires

off the start line.

I think it helps that the BMW

can offset that with the rear wheel drive anyway.

Which again, ties into our own surprise.

They didn't run at least one in race one that way.

But there we go.

Again, and I don't know where the list was down to the tire.

Proctor managed to lose a position off the start.

Again, not a great start.

Either is he.

No.

And Buxton in the fourth Toyota was slow on that one

and came into the pits at the end of that lap,

which puts my predictions in tatters.

I was particularly pleased about that.

Sorry, Buxton, because you had to manage to

absolutely scam your way into three of them scoring

points in race two.

Well, you haven't scammed my way into them.

They finished their own merit.

And as such, I was wondering where the Buxton

might pick up just a point somewhere in race three.

So from a personal point of view, I was very pleased to see this.

Yes, and it turned around even more for you

towards the end of this race.

Indeed.

I scammed my way into something.

Yes.

Healing Camish managed to get past the Leon on lap two.

And once those two were out front,

they pretty much escaped off into the distance.

They did.

Again, can I just let me be negative?

It's not about ties this week.

And it's not a full soapbox.

But Camish, man, every time the chase on,

I can't remember the last time he chased somebody down

for a win.

And OK, the car might not be as good as they think it should

be, but this BMW has been poor all season.

OK, it's had a good weekend here and had a good weekend

in France.

It was, but he never made any head room into it.

It's not even like he got within a second or two

and you think, OK, he's at least, you know,

I don't know.

I can't remember.

And I remember this a few times before.

I remember it snatched him when we had that race in the rain.

He made no impact into the lead.

So I just can't remember the last time he's effectively

chased down a lead.

That's probably why he's sitting where he is in the championship.

He's had good results throughout the season,

but it's a little step further that he probably needs

that we probably saw when he had that Civic underneath him

and raced extremely well.

Proctor then got through on the Leon, I think, a lap later,

which was quite significant because they were both on medium

tyre.

It suggested that the Leon had possibly lost some pace

in that car.

Maybe it was suffering from the engine being slightly

overheated in race one.

And soon towards the end of the race went no further.

And then we had Sutton versus Ingram in this race.

Yeah.

That's all for many laps.

Well, it wasn't just them, was it?

Yeah.

We had a lot further about Robotman Chilton, who were

desperate to stop the other one from getting through

to potentially help their teammate.

Yeah.

It was a really good...

Look, we've said before about you need to have a good

teammate to win this championship, generally speaking.

And we saw it last year at Turgton Hill.

Don't just keep revisiting that ground.

But this year, we've really got it now because, yeah,

Ingram has got Chilton, who is generally there.

Proctor, who has been there since he came in.

And if it's not Chilton, it's normally Morgan.

One of those two always steps up.

Both Dan's are there.

A Robotman's transformation has been nothing short of,

you know, miraculous.

And they're both there, more often than not now as well.

Yeah.

Ingram was looking faster at this point, I must say.

And in general, I think the high end,

I had a little bit more pace than the four this weekend.

I agree.

But I think Ingram was happy to settle rather than...

He wasn't going to push it as far as he pushed it

in race three at Croft, was he?

No.

And I think also he was...

Yeah.

He'd already got the win.

He knew that Sutton wasn't winning this race

the way it was playing out

and the way the BMW was performing with Hill.

So I think he probably thought,

do you know what?

It's not worth a non-finish here.

Just let him have it.

Agreed.

Robotman managed to get past Moffat for eighth

and then Moffat had a nice little battle with Adam Morgan.

Consequently, his rear bumper was removed completely.

Yeah, I was slightly nervous

because I had Moffat to be the best performing Scotsman

and he had been for quite a while.

He had done very well this weekend.

But Shedding wasn't so far back then.

He couldn't nick it right at the last.

When I saw the bumper hanging off,

I thought, oh, God, here you go.

But Morgan did the gentlemen thing,

which was just swipe it off for him at the next round.

Just run into him again.

Yeah, the Morgan special.

And then Aaron Taylor Smith's weekend

came to a sorry end when he had to enter the pits

fairly early into race three.

Yeah, another engine maybe.

Reliability at Toyota.

It's not the first time, is it?

And the reliability at Toyota

has been really disappointing this year,

particularly from a manufacturer-backed team as well.

I think you'd accept more poor reliability

if your engine was super quick or super good.

Yeah, it may be.

And you might bring in that little bit of fragility.

But to have both a poor engine and poor reliability

really just compounds itself.

Agreed. The car was better this weekend.

It was.

It definitely has improved.

But I do think for a manufacturer team,

their reliability is really, really worrying.

Agreed.

De Leon and Proctor, both on the mediums, remember,

were starting to drop back into the clutches

of that Sutton and Ingram battle.

Now, I don't know whether this was because Sutton and Ingram

were pushing on and going relatively quickly on that soft tire,

whether the mediums were holding those two back

or whether this was a more tactical battle

almost from Proctor holding everyone out

so he could help out Ash Sutton.

Roboton managed to get past Chilton as well

in the rest of his battles with the Hyundai's this weekend.

He seemed to be battling them for the whole weekend.

And then Sutton managed to get past De Leon.

And this was while Roboton was really interfering

with the back of Ingram and making Ingram

thinking about defending and stuff like that.

This is the sort of battles that I think we're going to see

all the way to the end of the season.

Agreed.

Where you're going to have to have your teammate around you

to make that other driver think.

And then you're going to have to have your other,

other teammate in there to also make that teammate have to think.

Yeah, it's going to get complicated

and there's going to be an accident at some point.

There is going to be, one of the teammates is going to fire off

one of the title contenders

and it's going to create the meltdown of all meltdown

on the social media.

And why is it going to be Proctor?

Just discarding it now.

And then Sutton managed to get past Proctor quite easily.

Didn't put up much of a fight.

I don't think he could.

Not on the tire, no.

Meanwhile Ingram was getting past De Leon

who had fallen back and then Proctor

allowed him through as well.

Reiterating back to Sutton versus Ingram

towards the end of the race

which would then get further swapped.

De Leon was now getting shuffled back

obviously on mediums and Proctor

gained a 10 second penalty for track limits

which pretty much put his race to the end.

That second weekend in the road, didn't he go on a craft?

He did.

He did because it got loyal to the points, isn't it?

Yeah.

So De Leon was dropping back through the field

and we wondered what was happening on the timing tower

and then we saw his car on the pit entry.

Didn't quite make it in up that hill.

Second.

And I do wonder whether this is as a result of the engine

finally giving up the ghost.

Second weekend in a row where he has had

on course winjects is having

backed him to do it for the weekend.

And the second weekend of the row in race three

has just fallen to pieces for him.

And it was literally two laps from the end.

It was.

And the yellow flags came up.

The yellow flags in that area for the marshals

to be able to push the car back up into the pit entry.

The race was allowed to finish under that yellow flag condition.

With Leon dropping back, this promoted Mikey Doble,

PMR with Cooper this weekend.

If you've missed that review, go back and listen to it.

You'll get all the update on what's happened with them.

But they managed to score a single point this weekend

which considering all they've been through.

That's a victory.

Is a brilliant achievement.

Yeah, that's a victory.

Which we've got had to learn our brand new whole new car.

A car that, as we said in the preview, hasn't set the series on fire.

We're being honest in this, Bobby Thompson's involved.

So yeah, a fantastic point for them.

And crucial for Doble in terms of, sorry, Doble,

in terms of the independence that he finished

all three races, which is crucial for the independent.

Definitely.

And then we had the final bit of controversy for the weekend.

It's not controversial.

It's the right call.

Which was Camish again letting Sutton through

just before the line.

However, this was still under double yellow flags

at the time.

And I think it was quite clearly in the double yellow flag zone

which the officials have agreed with

and actually swapped the positions back post-race.

And given Sutton three point points on his lightest.

Now, I have to say again, in mitigation,

because I like to do a bit of mitigation,

you would argue if you're a napper,

that they were past the instant

and the next board would have been green.

However, that's if spots and maybes,

that the move took place on the part of the circuit

where it was, you know, as you say,

the earth's route and it was neutralized.

And I am a Sutton fan.

That's been clear on the podcast over the years,

but I cannot get on my high horseback drivers

ignoring flags and then ignore this.

You cannot ignore the flags.

It's poor.

My massive argument against that is the fact

that they could have done it down the back straight

into the herping.

And that would have taken it completely out of...

I don't think they could.

Only because Camish was too far ahead.

I mean, he could have completely dropped the car.

Yeah, they could have done it.

And I can't just sort of give Sutton a pass

because he's one of the drivers that I tend to like watching.

It's poor.

It's, as I say, it's dangerous.

I think it's poor from the team as well

because obviously they would have arranged that

in that point unless Camish has been really sneaky here

and gone, I'll do it under yellow flags.

No, I don't think he's done it like that.

I don't think he's liked that.

And also, I think for Sutton

to give him a little bit of defense

is that it's not really his decisions in some ways.

Camish has slowed down.

Otherwise, he'll slow down.

Not a go pass.

I mean, England goes past the both.

Okay, it would have been reversed under the yellow flag.

But yeah, Sutton has done what you would expect

anybody to do in that circumstance.

Like you, I blame the team more

for not realizing it.

Trying to orchestrate it at that point.

Yeah, and the yellows have been out for a while.

And on the pit straight, where they all sit?

So it's not like it's an obscure part of the track

you can't see.

So yeah, I'm going to put it more on the team.

But I will say, as I say,

I get angry about this sort of thing.

I've got to be consistent.

You can't be ignoring flags.

Why can't drivers and teams and motorsport

people in motorsport respect the flags?

It doesn't look at their dash.

Right.

Anyway, from race three.

Hell one from on amended.

Camish from Sutton.

Ingram in fourth.

Chilton fifth.

Road bottom six.

Morgan seventh.

Rainford eighth.

Moffitt ninth.

Shedden tenth.

Followed by Smiley.

Lloyd Proctor after his 10 second penalty

dropped all the way down to 13th.

Patterson.

And then as I mentioned,

Mikey Doble getting into the points.

So what this means for the three main championships

is that Ingram remains top.

He has 323 points.

Sutton remains second on 306.

That gap is widening.

Then it is Camish who's taken third spot

on 228.

Road bottom on 214.

So 14 points back in fourth.

Hill 197.

Morgan in fifth.

Sorry, in sixth on 170.

Chilton one point behind him

on 169.

Rainford in eighth on 134.

Proctor, let's not forget,

only came in partway through the season.

His ninth on 116.

And I think the finish is high as sixth.

I'm putting it out there now.

And Smiley is also on 116

and is in 10th.

In the Jack Sears.

De Leon needs that by a single point now

over Charles Rainford.

309 to 308.

Ross Bourne is there or there about on 277.

But after that I think it is

between those three and arguably two.

Dolan is fourth.

Good effort in his debut season on 247.

Patterson on 227.

Nick Hamilton on 144.

Hal said on 94.

And Buxton on 55.

I've discounted drives that are no longer racing

in the championship this year.

So Pearson is higher up in the table,

but won't be scoring any more points.

And then finally in the independence.

Chris Smiley now leads that on 290.

Mikey Dobel on 277.

Lloyd on 265.

Patterson on 235.

Cook has dropped down to fifth on 206.

Obviously he's missed the last six races.

Stephen Jelly, I'm not sure his future holds,

but he's on 162.

Nick Hamilton on 151.

Nick Hal said on 109.

And Max Hall on 80.

So Halton, not only a head of Hal said,

far ahead of Hal said.

Yes, definitely.

The winning Jack Sears driver from this weekend,

as we've already mentioned, was Rainford.

And the winning independent was Chris Smiley.

Right.

Let's get into doing the predictions first

and the awards first.

Let's do awards first.

So I think we've probably gone for the same driver

of the weekend.

I think it has to be him.

Yeah, I agree.

It's a front row start.

Oh, sorry.

He was third technically.

But okay, he qualified well, won two races

and then finished in a good position

on the worst tie or worst tie available this weekend.

I don't forget the illness that he has had

to come back from that.

Yeah, absolutely.

He's done very well this weekend.

And he seems to love not kill.

He's been in Nick Houses off, which was just funny.

Regardless of your thoughts on it, it's just funny.

Your villain.

I found this tricky this weekend.

I've not found it tricky particularly.

I've gone for Robot.

And I think only because also if you look at his social media

as well, it's a weekend of what could have been

quantified well.

It's not his fault the car's underweight necessarily,

but okay, he's underweight and that's thrown away.

Any chance of progression race one.

He then doesn't really progress as much as you think

he should arguably.

And I think that's a great indication throughout the pod

to why that is.

But dare I say, from not from, you know,

being just qualified from the qualifying,

never really covered it this weekend.

Didn't really get close to this is a drive that has been

top six, knocking on the door of podiums

pretty much every weekend.

And he was nowhere near this weekend.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I think from car potential to performance.

I think he, I think he knows lots of me left

on the table.

I think you're going to argue with mine.

If you go moff it, I'm punching through the wall.

I am going for Osborne.

I'm not going to argue.

I think he was looking very racey and race one on that

soft tire and he had the tire differential

of the drivers around him.

But I don't think he made the absolute most of it

that he could.

And when he got past drivers, he wasn't then going off

from that battle pack that he was in.

He was still getting dragged back into it.

Yeah.

I think you can make the same arguments I've made

for Robo with Osborne.

He didn't potentially get the best out of packages

weekend.

I think that's fair comment.

I mean, race three didn't finish inside the points.

And that those sorts of finishes are going to

really hamper his, his Jack Sears.

Yep.

And that I went for him this weekend and he

didn't come anywhere near.

No, that's fair enough.

That's fair enough.

No, I can understand that.

Surprise.

Good.

I've seen who you've gone for.

Who was what I was originally going to go for.

So I should change it.

Okay.

I'm going to say you're going to look at me

oddly.

Toyota weren't anywhere near as bad as I thought

they were going to be.

Three out the four scored points.

Three out of four.

Sorry.

Two of the four score points more than once.

So they are better than I thought they were

going to be, which I suppose makes it

surprise good.

I would have gone for what you've gone for,

but for a bit of variety, I should go to

Toyota.

But that is very much my second choice of

what I would have picked.

Right.

So I have gone for BMW.

I was not expecting BMW to be this good

this weekend.

We know it's a real-wheel drive circuit,

but with the struggles that they've had,

the Croft is meant to be a real-wheel-drive

circuit.

And they didn't perform as well as I thought

they should have done.

Yes, De Leon had a decent run.

Unlucky to get into the accident in

racetrack and Croft.

But, yeah, they did really well this weekend.

I know Hill loves this place,

but he made the absolute most of it that

he did as well.

Yeah, I completely agree.

All four drivers scored good points.

I think Moffat will be slightly disappointed

not to have got more from the weekend

compared to what his teammates were able

to do.

But it's been a tough year for BMW

and if they can take anything from this

for the final few rounds of the season,

then they could finish on a high.

Yeah.

Bad?

Re-start.

No way this weekend.

I was slightly surprised.

I was going to say Hyundai crossed the

board, but England did win a race.

They weren't as good here as I thought

they were going to be.

On the track where I fought their engine

would have a real, you know,

a fire door to the rest of the field.

Chilton really struggled in race one.

Okay, great in race two.

I was there.

We're never troubling anything,

but then Proctor had quite a good weekend

on the flip side.

So I'm going to go for a restart on the

basis that Lloyd and Smiley were just

anonymous.

Do you notice they were there?

No, they were very much in the bottom

of that points pattern.

Yeah.

And we're sometimes struggling to stay

in it.

I can understand why you've gone for

them.

This is going to confuse you, I think.

If you go PMR.

I've gone for De Leon.

Okay.

A poor moving race one

puts grass in the radiator when

ideally the three of them should have

been top three finish.

I would argue not poor.

I'd argue miscalculated because I

think any race driver goes for a gap.

But had consequences

were misjudged, let's say.

Yes.

No, I agree with you on that.

Drop down the field in race one.

Not great.

Should have been finishing really top

three with the face of BMW.

It should have been a one, two,

three for BMW.

Yeah.

In race two, don't think he did

particularly well.

I thought he could have done a little

bit better.

Obviously the non-finish in race three

may have well been down to the

issues in race one caused by over

heating.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

So, considering the weekend that

BMW have had as a whole and the

performances that we've seen from

Rainford from Hill, obviously,

and the consistency of Moffitt being

inside the top ten for every single

race, De Leon has let me down a

little bit this weekend and he's

done with not winning the Jax's.

I'm surprised I've made it bad and

cute.

I'm surprised he's not the driver of

the day for that.

I can understand it.

I don't fully agree,

but that's what these

personal opinions are all

about.

Cool.

Right.

Do you want a penalty corner or

did you not want a penalty corner

this week?

I think I've covered it in the

thing to be honest.

We've covered the penalties.

So let's quickly cross the

predictions.

Neva has got pole.

I don't have a camis.

You went for a road bottom.

You were closer but no cigar.

Well, sort of until you go

on the road.

In terms of winners,

I got two.

So I had Ingram and Hill.

I also went for Morgan who was

knowing it.

You went for road bottom, Sutton

and Hill.

So one point to you for Hill.

So that's two on to me.

And I went for De Leon and the

Jax's who once again had control

when it's the last little pit

and you went for Osbourne,

which I did at the time I

said was bold.

I said I'd go for someone

different but I should have

got with that.

Yes.

At the time I said it was bold

and I was correct to say.

So then we go on to the general

predictions.

And again, I've done well here.

We'll get you out of the way

first because you've got nothing

right this weekend.

So you went for a Scott on the

podium.

I mean, John Kellan did

technically.

It was bold.

Yeah.

I mean, John Kellan did give

an award out technically.

No, no.

All four to score points.

I will say you were slightly

unlucky of that one.

Yeah.

Roxton in hindsight

didn't really look like he was

going to be scoring this

weekend.

No.

But yeah.

This one you are slightly

unlucky of as well.

Yeah, I think I am.

So you went for a Camish and

Robotten to outscore Chilton,

Morgan and Proctor.

Proctor had a very good weekend.

He did.

So they scored 68 combined,

the three virtue drivers.

And they, Camish and

Robotten scored 62.

Good.

I've worked out on the

Robe.

It's been switched back.

So you were only

seven points off that

effectively.

So close.

That is unfortunate.

Yeah.

I grant you that.

But I was egging

Robotten to get past Chilton

and Morgan in that final race.

But there was a lot of

unfortunate things that

happened on this podcast.

So that's another one.

And you.

That was for one.

Yes.

And you disgracefully

refused to back PMR.

And to be fair,

with two laps to go,

that was coming in.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah.

You've got very lucky

with that one.

But you said no,

PMR was not score points.

You got nothing there.

In terms of me,

I went for three different

winners.

And going into race three,

that was a real possibility.

De Leon has won one.

Rainford had won one.

And then Rainford

just drove too well.

Damn it.

I kind of hope that

we might see a Paterson

or an Osborn come to play.

But no.

Yeah, I mean,

he did drop down,

but the next best

was Paterson in 14.

Yeah.

So perfect on that one.

I did go for Moffat

to be the best

performer in Scotland.

I've not worked out the

points, but it's clear

that it was coming to be

one.

But it didn't happen.

Can close at times,

but not quite enough.

Yeah.

If only actually,

considering that I'd also

gone for that as well.

First of all,

I take it back.

They should have disqualified

us.

Yeah, those.

That would have been

fantastic.

And I also have a PMR to get

points, which I look

great.

Disgrate when I suppose

I'm glad you're arguing

that it says points there,

not point.

But yes,

they've got a points

finish.

So that does

do fair.

We needed that from

Sam's point of view.

You did.

Well, we did.

You did.

We did for the

fan enjoyment of this sound.

That takes you to 20 points.

It does.

And it brings it back to 18.

So with three rounds to go,

it's three rounds to go.

It's three rounds to go.

Yeah, it's going to be

a good finish to the

season, I reckon.

Always is.

Do you have any final

thoughts then from the

Nock Hill weekend?

It's a difficult one

to really put

into perspective for the

challenge.

We had sunshine.

We did.

We had consistent

sunshine in Nock Hill.

We did.

And so I changed up

the racing that we got.

Yes, we normally get

excitement through

different changeable conditions

and stuff like that.

But I think we had some

really good close racing

this weekend due to that

smaller offset in the tyre.

And with drivers

in the midfield,

certainly battling

back and forth

between each other.

Absolutely.

For me, it's difficult to

know what impact

this has had on the

championship only because

of rarity.

It didn't see

certain an ingram at

the front.

Not too much.

I know an ingram won a race,

but other than that,

they weren't really

competing at the front.

Is this a full storm

for BMW?

Or are they

going to be in the mix

the rest of the season?

We're going to tracks

where I think

there should be strong.

I think Donnington

is a track where

they will be half strong.

Half the lap

is where we'll drive.

Silverstone,

I was very strong early

in the season here.

Ford a bit there as well.

And I think they will

be difficult to beat

next time out.

I think BMW

should also go

with Silverstone

as well.

Are they back to stay?

We'll have to see.

I think that

ingram is just

starting to spread

his wings a little bit

at the top of that championship

now.

I'm not saying it's

not going to happen

before people shout at me,

but I think from here

it's going to be

hard for certain now

to...

It looks small on paper,

but the way that car

is, the way ingram is

and the way that

they are finishing

so close to each other

for out the races,

it's going to be

tough for certain

from here for me.

My final thought

is all credit to PMR.

From the situation

they were in at the

start of the week

to where they were

by Sunday evening

all with a beer in hand

celebrating the point

that they got

is a brilliant achievement

for them.

Absolutely.

And we wish them

all the best going forward

for the rest of the season

and we hope that

BCCC community

will keep coming together

to help them

finish off the season

and help

Weaver

rebuild with PMR.

Absolutely.

And hopefully now

they can take

the data from the

team

and make them

a little bit more

competitive

for the remaining

rounds of the season

but to even

be on the pace

in a car

you've never driven

with very limited data

is incredible.

So yeah

the effort

those boys and girls

have put in

is nothing short

of miraculous.

So as you say

I can echo

your congratulations

and good wishes

to them.

Yeah.

Until next time

we'll be back

for Donnington

Park

next time out

for now

we are going to

Donnington Park

we will see some of you

there

but of course

before that

we will have

our full preview

as always

until we speak again.

Bye bye.

Making under yellows

Yeah.

Agreed.

There are

Marshalls on track

and it was

double wave yellows

with red stock.

Yeah.

I agree

I'm not going to defend him

I always say

respect the flags

I'm not going to defend him

the only thing I will say

that would have been

used in

mitigations

they're past the

I know it doesn't matter

but they're past the instant

and the next flag

would have been green

but should have

would have could

I agree

still in the zone

isn't it

but also

think that the people

on Facebook

should be disqualified

is also disqualified

and nonsense

but yeah

you've got a spider on you

it was a joke

from the

Oh sorry

there you go

it's been a good day for you

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