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KNOCKHILL REVIEW BTCC 2025
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About this episode
The Knockhill Review dives into the action-packed yet unpredictable weekend of the British Touring Car Championship. Highlights include intense midfield battles, strategic tire choices, and a controversial incident involving Jake Hill and House Deb. The episode discusses qualifying results, race strategies, and the impact of tire offsets on performance. Noteworthy performances from drivers like Ingram and Hill are analyzed, along with the challenges faced by teams like BMW and Toyota. The hosts also reflect on the implications for the championship standings as the season progresses.
Topics:
knockhill
btcc
qualifying results
tire strategies
midfield battles
driver performances
championship standings
controversial incidents
team strategies
race analysis
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This is the Knock Hill Review.
Hello, and welcome back to the British Touring Club podcast.
Yes, we are back once again to take you through all the action from the Knock Hill weekend.
We had a weekend on the sofa watching all the action unfold, and it was quite a weekend
away, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was a weird one because it was action packed, and it wasn't action packed.
It kept threatening to boil over and to really kick off, and we saw some really
good battles, particularly in the midfield, but they're never quite bowled into classic
touring car territory of cars flying left, right and centre, but it was a good weekend
of racing, I agree.
No, you're right.
Most of the action did occur in...
Sorry.
You just said up right.
Wow.
It did occur in the midfield.
It was very much once the drivers got out of the front, they kind of went off on
one of the races quite easily, but that battle from anywhere from 6th down to 15th,
it was anyone's really, wasn't it?
Yeah, and I have to say, Toka have listened maybe to us drivers, fans, and the tyre offset
this weekend wasn't anywhere near as bad as the soft to the hard, who knew, and drivers
on the medium could still compete.
Obviously, we did see one driver in particular fall back through the field, but I do wonder
if that was all setup related, because it was the only one of the ones that did in
that.
But we'll get to all of that, of course, but yeah, no, a good weekend of racing.
Okay, then should we start off with the qualifying on Saturday?
Yeah, qualifying on Saturday wasn't particularly exciting, not a lot happened, so I'll just
quickly run it through sort of the main bits of pieces.
So in the first session, De Leon, Rainford, Camish, Proctor, Sutton and Osborne all went
through good effort by Osborne to get through that pack.
Although, what I would say on the background of that is that people went out, was
Darling, Patterson, Halstead, Lloyd and Chilton, which was a surprise.
Chilton was a surprise, and I think he made quite a few setup changes between the
Saturday and the Sunday, because his pace that he showed on the Sunday, especially
from race two onwards, was actually quite good.
Yep, in the second session, we saw Ingram, Robotham, Moffat, Hill, Aaron Taylor-Smith
and Smiley all progress out went, Shed and Dobble, who did have a spin in this
session, thankfully kept it out of the barrier, but did, very similar to what we
did at Croft, he dipped a wheel where he shouldn't be dipping a wheel than the
cast bum round, but thankfully, no other problems other than tension
needing a new overall when he got back to the garage.
Hamilton, Buxton and Morgan also in that session, the two Hyundai's out in
the first session, which was a bit of a surprise.
Quite surprising as we were going into the weekend, we thought, OK, it's probably
going to be a napper forward versus virtue Hyundai battle this weekend.
And the BMWs came up with a bit of a surprise, didn't they?
I mean, it was a bit of a surprise to some people, but not to me.
I did, in the preview, say that I thought this would be a track they
would come back stronger, and they did.
They did indeed.
The second part, getting to the quick six, saw De Leon, Hill, Proctor,
Ingram, Rainford and Robotham make it through.
So that's three of the four BMWs went through out.
Went Camish, Moffat, Aaron Taylor, Smith, Smiley, Osborne and Sutton,
who nearly rolled the car.
He did say after that, that he was pushing the envelope as hard as he could
to try and get into that super six or if you want to call it a shootout.
And in doing so, he really went hard
through the stipp up onto the two wheels.
I think J.
Edward said on Sunday he was on two wheels for 70 metres
before he came back down.
Sorry, it was a long distance.
And he was very lucky that by the time the car was coming back
on its way down, he was just about to enter the gravel.
So I think if he was just still up at that sort of angle and a dug in,
who knows what could happen.
And then in the super six, Rainford tops the times,
his first pole in his touring car career from his career.
In his career. Yeah, that's actually true.
Yeah, you're right.
Actually, in all sport.
Yeah, that did shock me as well, because he was a quick lad in the
Porsches, but yeah, you're absolutely right.
His first pole in any motor sport.
That's grand.
De Leon came second to BMW one, two.
And that's actually one, two, three, because Hill was third.
And to be honest, once they'd set their early laps,
also they don't come into the tyre cross,
nobody was getting close to them.
The tracks sort of decelerated really quickly.
So after the opening, sort of four, five minutes of the
of that session, yellow started coming out across the board,
not flags, sector times.
And nobody was able to really improve.
Robotton did manage to get ahead of Ingram and Proctor in sixth.
However, the post qualifying Daniel Robotton was disquantified
for failing the weight check.
Yeah. And not by just like 100 grams or something like that.
Two and a half. Yeah, this he failed it.
This stunning because we've seen in Formula One,
and I sometimes do bring that up.
But the sort of vessel failed by being like, was it so daft
over under and hungry or having millimetre of too few,
too few, few, a few, that's hard to say.
Now I've been drinking, yeah.
No, but to see two and a half kilograms.
That is, you know, that's a lot of.
Yeah, I think his little social media post on Saturday evening said
they run the risk of being right on the limit.
But for me, that's not the limit.
That's already running possibly under the limit
and trying to get away with it almost.
Yeah, it is normally only the top three that get tested.
It was just, I think, a case of that Robottons was spot tested,
which as you say, you know, if a couple of grams over,
you feel sorry for them, because you can tell our tyre wearing
right kind of stuff, but two and a half kilos.
That's a lot to be under by.
So yeah, put to the back of the grid for race number one,
which we'll get into now.
Yeah, so race one on Sunday then
and six drivers started race one on the soft tyre.
We saw soft and medium this weekend
and a lot of people wanted to get that medium done out the way
so they could run the soft for the rest of the weekend.
Knowing that the gap between the tyre offset
was only about three to four tenths.
Yeah, you slightly surprised that the BMWs opted for the soft in race one,
given obviously they don't know until you don't know in advance
of what anyone else is running.
And once you've elected that, you can't then change
and you see what's on the grid unless wet weather comes into play.
But I'm slightly surprised that the BMWs didn't go on medium
for the first race.
So bear in mind that the three of them could work together.
They were going to get a good start guarantee
because the way the way the rear, I really can't speak tonight.
The way the rear wheel drive cars get off the line.
And also the fact they're dominated and qualifying as well.
I'm a little bit surprised.
And also the three of them at the front.
I'm surprised maybe one of them didn't split the strategy
and go to medium, perhaps,
because obviously if they ran the medium in race one,
as we were I'm sure we'll get to and they finish on the podium.
That's it. They don't have to run it again.
They can still run the soft in race two and capitalise from there.
Yes.
So as you mentioned,
Hill, Rainford and Lee on all were running the soft tire,
along with Proctor from fifth and then also Osborne and Patterson,
who were much further down into the pack.
That surprised me a bit more,
the fact that Osborne and Patterson were going to run them from where they were.
Yeah.
Also surprised me that Proctor from where he was decided to run it as well.
You know, again, because he would know what is going on.
Obviously, you know, your teammates are going to be going on.
I'm slightly surprised that they didn't because Ingram needs to push forward
and make sure he finished head of ash.
I'm surprised they didn't stick strategy together
so they could Proctor could basically help Ingram through.
I kind of think they wanted Proctor on a soft to try and go and mix it
with the BMWs possibly cause a little bit of havoc.
And then Ingram was there getting the medium tire out of the way,
finishing as high up as possible to make the most of the rest of the weekend,
which she kind of then went on and did.
As you expect, BMW got an excellent launch.
Moffat, even on that medium tire,
got a really nice car around the outside of a couple of drivers off the line
and row bottom was actually actually up to up six positions by the end of that one.
Having obviously started from the back for being disqualified for the underweight car.
Proctor then got through on Ingram by lap three down at the hairpin.
Yep, good move. I'm surprised this didn't happen a little bit earlier.
It's tricky because the BMWs had already made a decent lead at this point.
Yeah, it's tricky because the problem lock is it is so short and far
so that there's not many obvious places to get out of the way.
The hairpin is one of them.
But of course, if you go too wide and we saw this a couple of times
with people coming through, someone will nip up behind you
and you get shuffled out even further.
Or you can just put the brakes on going across the line.
Subjects of flags.
All three BMWs were bumper to bumper at the front
and they were running fairly clear as we were going to expect
being on that soft tire as dominant as they were qualifying.
We kind of knew that at that point they would go off up the road.
It was just how they were going to play together and how that would all filter out.
Ingram managed to get a track limits warning very early on,
having used up his three strikes, I think is having a black and white flag
on only lap seven, so he was going to have to be careful for the rest of the race.
And to be fair to him, he did.
But it's very early to use up your lives, isn't it?
It is, but I guess that's the fail.
So for the drives, you know, you can basically get away with it three times.
So push the envelope until you can't push it any further.
But I think he also put cameras up there for this week.
Oh, at knock, it turned to which weren't there last year.
And as he said, his own words when you're a bit stupid like him,
his own words, not mine, he couldn't remember that they were there
and had to sort of relearn that corner to not keep, you know, falling foul limits.
And then the first major sort of like overtaking manoeuvre came
and that was the Leon's Lunge into T1.
I'm not sure you can count as an overtaking manoeuvre
because he did go cross country rally style.
I have to say, have you seen the little bit
that's been put on Google Maps today?
Yeah, the De Leon's Grasscat Services.
I have to say, if I was Dick Bennett's,
I'd be quite annoyed of De Leon at this point
because it's a very clumsy move.
I would argue the move is never on.
And if it is on, it's turned on.
If that's your teammate.
I mean, if you're racing, if that's in front of you
for argument's sake, I still don't think it's on,
but I can understand it more.
But that's your teammate.
What gets it for me is the distance
that he then went off by, obviously, down,
duffers, crossed the grass,
got a load of grass in the front of the radiator.
Yeah, so let's just rewind.
And then had to be really careful
we're coming back on with the other two teammates around him.
Yeah, so let's just rewind it slightly.
So coming into turn one,
the line is that you basically cut into the pit exit
and then you, similar to Donnington Park,
you cut into the pit exit and sweep round.
De Leon decided to stay on the inside,
but very late decided he was going to lunge in on the brakes.
As I say, as you're turning sweeping,
it's a sweeping round corner, if that makes sense.
And it's a drop down at the same time.
And yeah, he basically, he dived through
and it's a quote, Martin Brundle was a day late
and a dollar short, wasn't it?
And just as you say, then careered across the grass
and just filled up the car with dust and dirt.
Yeah, filled the front of the radiator up
and then continued out front as well for a couple of laps.
Didn't really give it back straightaway,
which we thought he's got to give this back.
It's not a choice.
Yeah, I wonder if he thought,
could he run it in clear air for the rest of the race
and then right at the end, swap it back maybe
because obviously his problem is going to be
if he drops back into the pack
and he can't get clean air through the car,
he's got to overheat even quicker.
He was going to struggle to get clean air
through the car anyway with the grass.
But he can't see that, can he?
He can't see them out of grass.
And it's a maybe he thinks, okay, we'll get it to the end
and right on the end we'll swap back
and save a stewards inquiry.
Yeah, a couple of laps later,
he did let both of them,
that's Rainford and Hill through at the hairpin.
And we thought, okay, right, he's seen sense,
but he gradually start to drop off the pace
because he was trying to manage temperatures.
Yeah, I think it would become clear to that point
that he couldn't nurse it
and there was probably more in there than,
I mean, to fair, last weekend
he saw his teammate succeed with a cone in there.
So maybe he felt he could get away
with a little bit of grass in the radiator,
but it wasn't a little bit of grass.
It was every single part that should be clear
was not clear.
Yeah, and it wasn't long until Proctor then followed through
and yeah, his demise through the field started to happen.
Yeah, absolutely.
Osborne was looking really racy on that soft tire as well
in midfield.
He was battling with lots of different drivers,
making some interesting moves
and some less interesting moves.
I don't think he did a lot wrong.
He was very racy this weekend.
He looked for the first time ever, arguably,
really at home in the car
and able to put it to the edge of his abilities
and the car's abilities.
I think, I don't think it'd be a harsh thing
to say that perhaps, certainly from the outside,
it doesn't look like he's got the best out of that car
at times in his nap of career.
But this weekend it felt he was a lot closer.
I feel like in race one
because he had that tire differential
and yes, it's not too much between the soft and the medium,
but I feel like he should have made a little bit more of it
and when he completed a couple of moves
and then dropped back.
I agree, but I think the tire offset
only really came into its own when you're out front
because we saw throughout the weekend
a lot of the tire offset
just struggling to get through the midfield
but it's a tight circuit.
It's relentless.
I remember we watched the onboard of Robot from the start
and you blink and you're already at the hairpin.
It is such a quick lap that I know what you're saying.
I completely get what you're coming from
but I also think here it's just not as obvious as a place
that there's no real long straight
just to drive past them on as it were.
Hill then took the lead on lap 14 down at the hairpin
with a fairly comfortable move on Rainford.
Yeah, he locks up initially
but then was able to get the car back under control
and sweep through on the inside.
Both of them are quite sensible.
We've given each other space.
Yeah, and Hill out dragged him on the start finish line
potentially a boost allocation at play.
I'm not quite sure, but yeah.
That is how to pass a teammate
in a sensible manner, should we say.
And then Aaron Taylor Smith and Osborn were clashing doors
with Osborn going up on two wheels
through the chicane over the hill
which was a little bit risky.
It was, I don't quite know at what point it happened
but Taylor Smith did get a penalty
or a retromance after the race
for more of a changing direction
under defending more than once
which I know is a rule in F1.
I think he did it down into turn one
down the first pit straight basically.
But I've never seen that in touring.
No.
I assumed it was a rule because it makes sense
that in motorsport you can only have one
changed direction when defending
but I've never seen that penalty applied
in touring cars before.
It's very much similar to moving
in the braking zone as well.
I think because these cars can be unstable
in the braking zone, they let a lot more go.
But yeah, this is the first instant
that we've seen of it.
I should also quickly point out
that Taylor Smith, he was deducted
five points coming into this weekend
for an engine change.
I suppose I could have covered that
in a penalty corner.
I was trying to get as many engines
out of that Toyota as possible.
I may have put two in there.
Robot on there was out of boost by lap 17
and really stopped making progress.
He had good progress up till then
and he too was looking racer.
We knew he had the pace from qualifying in Saturday
and it really stunted him
once he'd used up all of his boost.
I'm awfully tired.
Again, yeah, I think this just plays
into what I was saying before
that it is a tough place to overtake.
There's lots of chances to overtake
but because it's so narrow
and you start getting three or four cars
in a battle pack as Alisson would say
it is difficult to get that space to come through.
While those four are fighting,
the next pack are getting further away down the road.
You clear that and suddenly you've then got
to catch the next pack.
Or you're getting people behind you,
catch you up and then you've got to think
about defending.
You get a lot of field spread in Ocule.
Yes, yes, you do.
And then we saw De Leon's demise
through the field.
Ingram got him on lap 17,
followed by Camish, followed by Moffitt
and it was a real sign of how much the car
was struggling to keep hold of the temperatures
and almost protect the car at that point.
And then we saw possibly the most controversial
part was race one.
This has really caused an argument
on social media for what happened afterwards.
I don't understand it.
So we'll talk about the incident first.
So Hill coming around in the lead,
following House Deb around for about a lap or so,
he said afterwards.
Flashing his lights, letting him know
that he was on his way.
House Deb with the course,
get blue flags as Hill got closer and closer.
And again, not just blue flags
from the marshals, they appear on the steering wheel
or dashboard as well.
And going through T1 down Duffordiff into T2,
it's almost like House Deb didn't realize
either how quick Hill had caught him
through that section
or didn't make a decision as to which side
to go safe and allow Hill to go through.
And the two of them actually made contact
at the bottom of the Hill,
which consequently then put House Deb into a spin
and traveling backwards towards turn three
where luckily Hill and Rainford
managed to go around the outside of him.
He was able to control the car well enough
to stop any further collision.
But then the car rolled back into the gravel.
I think it was being kind of
I think the car was dead at that point personally.
I don't think.
And yeah, he wasn't able to get the car back out of the gravel
even though the front wheels of that Cooper
were on the Kerbal or Tarmac.
It's poor.
Look, he's gonna know
that he's made a big error of this,
there's no doubt about it.
And the only mitigation I could put in for him
is that the Cooper is right-hand drive
and the Astra is left-hand drive.
So he's got to relearn all his bearings.
However, however, I could already feel people
shouting at me.
So let me just take it back a little bit.
That's not an excuse.
You're at the premiere of racing or Tin Top racing.
You're an experienced driver as well.
Yeah, it's poor.
It's indefensible.
It's also fair to say that Hill didn't mince his words
in the interview after the race.
And I don't actually think he got too much wrong.
No, obviously we haven't heard how said side of it.
No, a lot of people have sort of said
that Hill's out of order
with sort of the comments he made post-race.
And I haven't got them here,
so I can't say in verbatim,
but it's basically that he should do better.
And I don't think he's wrong.
Also, you've got to remember,
Hill's just got out of a car.
A journalist is absolutely pumping around his veins.
He's been driving 100 mile an hour
plus for the last half an hour.
He's been on well, yes, yes, yes.
That's made obvious.
And then he's almost had a race
taken away from him in a season
where he's not had a great deal of race wins
and he's not been particularly competitive.
And if the car dies on you,
you can, it's part of motor school,
but potentially have a race win taken off for you
or compromised because somebody can't follow the rules
of basic rules that you've taught in karting
or any form of young motor sports you're growing up.
I can understand why he was cross.
And I agree with him.
It was poor and you've got to do better.
You've got to do better.
As a result of House did not be able
to get the car back out of gravel,
safety car was called,
which Dillion was cheering for at this point, I think.
Being able to call the car down under safety car,
we had three laps of safety car.
Yeah, that's, you made the point when we were watching
difficult one for Dillion.
Does he pit under the safety car and clear it
and try and get back on the back of the pack?
And for the problem is a pit stop and lock here
where you can lose two laps so quickly
under the safety car.
You can.
It helps that it would have only been like a quick sweep
out the front radiator and then get going again,
which if you time it, if you get the timing right,
you get lucky with it, then you might be able to do
and now you lose a few positions.
But he could be behind the safety car.
You can cool everything down.
You can take the revs off completely
and just sort of lifting coast for the most part
and just cool everything down that way.
So I think I think he made the right decision
of starting out personally.
Yeah, I mean, it was only Sutton
that got further past him on the restart.
Which could have happened in exactly
and he didn't fall any further back than that.
Upon the restart, Hamilton managed to break
a front track rod end.
Looked like he'd put the barrier at the chicane,
the red cell barrier.
And yeah, the wheel was wobbling.
It made a terrific noise.
Wobbling its way down the road
with one lap to go, basically.
It sounded like a disgraced Australian musician
playing a didgeridoo.
Okay.
I think he was Australian.
But what I would move on to,
what I would say is that the battle
from ninth to fifth was constantly chopping
and changing towards the end of that race.
And it would always be a different driver
coming around in a different position in each lap,
which is exactly what we want to see in the touring cars.
Absolutely.
Proctor then let Ingram through over the line,
just breaks issue or something like that.
I'm stunned by this.
Are you?
I've been completely understand why they've done it.
I completely understand why they've done it,
but I'm stunned by it in so far as
that then meant Proctor had to run the hard tire,
I'll say the hard tire.
Medium.
Yeah, the option tire in race two,
whereas Ingram is two.
Sorry, two, yes.
Yeah.
By finishing on the post.
No, the other way round.
No, the other way round.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So because Ingram had run the medium in race one
and finished on the podium,
he would then run the soft race two,
along with Proctor running the soft race two
because he would have that option
and then he would have to run that in the final race.
Yeah, I can't remember.
Well, I'm stunned.
I know you're right.
I've got my tires mixed up.
You're absolutely right.
So no, you're right.
It wasn't a particularly strange decision.
It's one I don't like.
I don't like team orders.
I don't like this sort of, but it's the games
and it's how it goes.
And it's the driver that's in the title hunt.
He knows where he stands within the team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he kind of, he wants to be back next year
and he's got to do these kind of things.
I'm not gonna.
We've seen it from Robotten before,
we've seen it from Camish this weekend as well.
Yeah.
Through Gritted Thief, I'm pretty sure.
Same for Proctor.
I don't look, I say, I don't like it,
but I'm not gonna cry about it
and say it's cheating or anything like that
because it's not, I just,
I don't like team orders, per se,
but it's part and parcel of the game.
So to finalise the running order from race one,
they finished Hill, Rainford, Ingram,
Proctor, Camish, Moffat, Sutton, De Leon,
Aaron Taylor Smith in the Toyota,
up there, finally.
Osborne, Morgan, Smiley, Patterson, Robo and Sheddon.
New engine though, right?
New engine.
So I can know that, that's clearly what it was.
Absolutely.
Okay, moving on to race two then
and Tom Chilton would start at the back of the grid
as he was, it's just qualified on race one
for overboost violations.
The fact that they didn't have the engine mapped
correctly and it was running to much boost.
Yeah, I've always wondered how they got into that
situation and I'm not sure it mattered too much
because it didn't even finish in the top 15.
No, I don't know, I don't really know how that happens.
It's happened quite a few times this season.
I think both Sheddon and Moffat have fallen afoul of this.
I don't really know how it happens
because surely you just send the engine out mapped
like you have done the rest of the season.
I don't fully...
So there will be different maps
that the cars run in different spaces.
Surely you must know what that thing is boost wise.
So you test it before it goes out.
I don't understand it, but then I'm not a mechanic.
Or a program.
No, I'm a record archiver.
So, you know, a slightly different skill.
So yes, he would start at the back of the grid
and only the front two were on medium,
which was near the Rainford.
Obviously Ingram was on medium in race one,
so therefore was able to run soft in this one,
which pretty much guaranteed from the start
that he would be winning the race.
Hal said, had to start from the pits,
unsure as to why.
I do think that's probably linked to race one.
I'd say I think the car died when he got spun round.
Maybe an electrical gremlin,
a fuse knocked out or something like that.
Don't know.
BMW did get away very, very well
and Proctor in particular was slow off the line,
which was a bit of a surprise.
And I would maybe say there's been any criticism
of Proctor this year.
And it's hard to criticize him
because he's had a very good year since he's come in.
He starts having a little bit poor.
We saw a craft you've seen it a couple of times
that he's not fantastic at getting off the line.
And actually, if I think back,
I do think that was a little bit of a problem of his
when he was back in the Civic as well
in the BTC team.
But that's something for him to work on
for next season, for sure.
Ingram was into second at the hairpin,
first time round.
And then by the next lap,
he was at the hairpin again,
rinsing and repeating his move this time on hill.
So pretty much after two laps,
or end of two laps into the lead.
And that was that.
That's the race done soon.
I was going to say there are only a couple
of overtaking opportunities at Knock Hill,
and he certainly makes the most of them
down into that hairpin, doesn't he?
Yeah, absolutely.
Kamish was trying to keep up the charge
and would go through into third.
Again, at the hairpin.
And also, we said about Chiltern
not really making any progress in race one.
By lap eight, sorry, by lap five,
he was up to eighth.
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
He almost felt like they put the extra boost
in for this race.
Yeah, absolutely.
Rainford would then do the good thing
for the team and that moth it through.
Of course, it was on the better tire.
We then saw the first rule
sort of off of the weekend.
Osborne seemingly forgetting where his
brake pedal was going off at speed.
It was driver error and he did choose to pit
to clear the car of dust, gravel and dirt
that had clogged up his front.
Lucky that that didn't dig in
and get stuck in that gravel truck.
De Leon obviously hadn't had much of a chat
with Dick Bennett's after race one
because this time he was giving moth at hell
for a couple laps and two of them were
side by side door banging,
which it's great to see.
It is great to see.
I think this one was all fair as well.
It was all fair and it is great to see.
But on the flip side, if you're Dick
and you're in the pit thinking,
there's not many tracks have been
compared to that this year.
You're watching through your fingers.
Yeah, you're going, lads, lads.
It's not been the best of year.
If you two take each other out,
then I am going to be livid.
But you're right, it did all end up fair in the end.
But it seems to us that De Leon's been a very...
It's not a criticism of him,
but he's a very balshy racer, isn't he?
He's certainly of the hard line racer style.
I was going to say sometimes we saw drivers like Sutton
be like that in the early stages
of his touring car career
and I think he's got to learn that side of it, definitely.
But he will need to temper that at stages,
especially if he becomes the driver we all hope he will be.
Absolutely.
Cameras should then get past hill
after hill lost the rear end of the car
coming out of the complex.
It's a full four-wheel slide.
It was a full four-wheel slide.
I think, again, that's part and part of A of the BMW.
We've seen him do it a couple of times this season.
I think that's part and part of the power of the BMW
is to drive this year.
Hand on the medium tire.
I'd say I'm on the medium tire as well.
Hill would then tumble down the field a little bit off the road.
Again, got away of it slightly,
but would, say, fall down the field with Proctor
and Sutton getting by.
It was late, but a good move by Senna at the hairpin on.
Sutton sort of cut in late to get past, but yeah.
Yeah, a good move, if you can't argue that one.
Sutton would then get by Proctor hard and fast at the chicane.
There's a brilliant little, if you've not seen it,
there's a brilliant sort of real clip
we're going to call it going around the socials today
of that move.
It is brilliant.
He chops back a car so well.
It's so well, isn't it?
He starts on the outside, always behind Senna,
waits for Senna to turn the car in, thinking,
OK, I'll keep on the outside.
And then just swipes across the back bumper,
millimeter perfect.
Floors it and still gets the traction that he needs.
I never really understand it.
No, it is a move that he has pulled many times
about this season, but it is what you call
a trademark Sutton move.
And it's absolutely fantastic to watch.
Ingram would go on to win by the proclaimers 500 miles.
You were so far in front of them.
Yeah, again, and this race, this is basically it for this race.
Race two was sort of definitely the slowest of the day.
Napa did swap positions right at the end of Sutton
going into second and Kamish pulling
wide to let him through.
Again, I repeat what I said about from the first race,
I don't like it, I can understand it.
But for Kamish as well, who mathematically
is in the title fight, you could argue,
but realistically is not.
And he was, of course, the head of Dan Robottom,
which is basically what he's fighting for now,
which is the finished third.
So Tom Ingram won the race from Ash Sutton
from Dan Kamish, Senna Proctor fourth.
Jake Hill, pretty good result on the medium tire
to finish fifth.
Much, much better than Rainford managed to achieve.
Yep, De Leon was sixth, Moffat seventh,
Chilton eighth, great result of him
for the back of the grid.
Daniel Robottom tonight, again,
didn't really make the progress in this race at all.
And on a soft tire, although pretty much everyone was.
Yep, Adam Morgan, round of the top 10
with Aaron Taylor Smith, Chris Smiley, Gordon Shedden,
James Dorlin and Daniel Lloyd making up
the points of pain positions.
You say Rainford dropped all the way out of the points,
which I don't think that was purely tire.
I do think there's potentially some damage to the car
or set up only because you compare it
to exactly the same car that's managed to finish fifth.
Yep.
So I don't think that's purely tire offset, personally.
I wouldn't ask her about it.
We can.
Right.
Osborne and House and Hamilton, I don't think finished,
but anyway.
Then we got the reverse grid,
the first one for Nikki Shields,
who I thought did a wonderful job.
Yeah, she did despite the spider.
Yeah, I think she fit,
I think she fit in really, really well.
And I think, yeah, there's a big shoes to,
big loafers, sorry, to fill from Steve.
She's certainly got a coupe,
Paul O'Neill and Tim Harvey in their face.
Absolutely.
But I thought she had a wonderful opening weekend
along the way that continued.
Of course, she had the pleasure of Tom Ingram
pulling the balls from the jar.
And I was correct.
I called.
I said, if I sat there, it'd be number six.
And it was number six.
To be fair to you, you did.
Do you want to get a point for that?
Tom should know.
Tom Schoen wasn't particularly happy
as he wanted it to be ball eight,
but with the much fairer system
that we have this year, it was ball six.
It was ball six.
And we'll bring you race three next.
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So, race three, then.
Race three, yes.
As you say, ball six was polled,
which put the Leon on to polled, didn't it?
Did.
However, or mediums.
Yes.
Yeah, which probably was a sign
of how much he struggled during race one.
Obviously, with the grass and the radiates,
put him down to polled.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the radiates put him down the field
and not having got that medium tire out of the way.
It did put Jake Healing to second,
who had a soft tire though.
Yes.
So it was pretty much.
Yeah.
So the four drivers for race three on the mediums,
that was the Leon Proctor, Osborne and Patterson.
And to be fair, it was a fairly equal start at the front.
We don't see too much difference in the tires
off the start line.
I think it helps that the BMW
can offset that with the rear wheel drive anyway.
Which again, ties into our own surprise.
They didn't run at least one in race one that way.
But there we go.
Again, and I don't know where the list was down to the tire.
Proctor managed to lose a position off the start.
Again, not a great start.
Either is he.
No.
No.
And Buxton in the fourth Toyota was slow on that one
and came into the pits at the end of that lap,
which puts my predictions in tatters.
I was particularly pleased about that.
Sorry, Buxton, because you had to manage to
absolutely scam your way into three of them scoring
points in race two.
Well, you haven't scammed my way into them.
They finished their own merit.
And as such, I was wondering where the Buxton
might pick up just a point somewhere in race three.
So from a personal point of view, I was very pleased to see this.
Yes, and it turned around even more for you
towards the end of this race.
Indeed.
I scammed my way into something.
Yes.
Healing Camish managed to get past the Leon on lap two.
And once those two were out front,
they pretty much escaped off into the distance.
They did.
Again, can I just let me be negative?
It's not about ties this week.
And it's not a full soapbox.
But Camish, man, every time the chase on,
I can't remember the last time he chased somebody down
for a win.
And OK, the car might not be as good as they think it should
be, but this BMW has been poor all season.
OK, it's had a good weekend here and had a good weekend
in France.
It was, but he never made any head room into it.
It's not even like he got within a second or two
and you think, OK, he's at least, you know,
I don't know.
I can't remember.
And I remember this a few times before.
I remember it snatched him when we had that race in the rain.
He made no impact into the lead.
So I just can't remember the last time he's effectively
chased down a lead.
That's probably why he's sitting where he is in the championship.
He's had good results throughout the season,
but it's a little step further that he probably needs
that we probably saw when he had that Civic underneath him
and raced extremely well.
Proctor then got through on the Leon, I think, a lap later,
which was quite significant because they were both on medium
tyre.
It suggested that the Leon had possibly lost some pace
in that car.
Maybe it was suffering from the engine being slightly
overheated in race one.
And soon towards the end of the race went no further.
And then we had Sutton versus Ingram in this race.
Yeah.
That's all for many laps.
Well, it wasn't just them, was it?
Yeah.
We had a lot further about Robotman Chilton, who were
desperate to stop the other one from getting through
to potentially help their teammate.
Yeah.
It was a really good...
Look, we've said before about you need to have a good
teammate to win this championship, generally speaking.
And we saw it last year at Turgton Hill.
Don't just keep revisiting that ground.
But this year, we've really got it now because, yeah,
Ingram has got Chilton, who is generally there.
Proctor, who has been there since he came in.
And if it's not Chilton, it's normally Morgan.
One of those two always steps up.
Both Dan's are there.
A Robotman's transformation has been nothing short of,
you know, miraculous.
And they're both there, more often than not now as well.
Yeah.
Ingram was looking faster at this point, I must say.
And in general, I think the high end,
I had a little bit more pace than the four this weekend.
I agree.
But I think Ingram was happy to settle rather than...
He wasn't going to push it as far as he pushed it
in race three at Croft, was he?
No.
And I think also he was...
Yeah.
He'd already got the win.
He knew that Sutton wasn't winning this race
the way it was playing out
and the way the BMW was performing with Hill.
So I think he probably thought,
do you know what?
It's not worth a non-finish here.
Just let him have it.
Agreed.
Robotman managed to get past Moffat for eighth
and then Moffat had a nice little battle with Adam Morgan.
Consequently, his rear bumper was removed completely.
Yeah, I was slightly nervous
because I had Moffat to be the best performing Scotsman
and he had been for quite a while.
He had done very well this weekend.
But Shedding wasn't so far back then.
He couldn't nick it right at the last.
When I saw the bumper hanging off,
I thought, oh, God, here you go.
But Morgan did the gentlemen thing,
which was just swipe it off for him at the next round.
Just run into him again.
Yeah, the Morgan special.
And then Aaron Taylor Smith's weekend
came to a sorry end when he had to enter the pits
fairly early into race three.
Yeah, another engine maybe.
Reliability at Toyota.
It's not the first time, is it?
And the reliability at Toyota
has been really disappointing this year,
particularly from a manufacturer-backed team as well.
I think you'd accept more poor reliability
if your engine was super quick or super good.
Yeah, it may be.
And you might bring in that little bit of fragility.
But to have both a poor engine and poor reliability
really just compounds itself.
Agreed. The car was better this weekend.
It was.
It definitely has improved.
But I do think for a manufacturer team,
their reliability is really, really worrying.
Agreed.
De Leon and Proctor, both on the mediums, remember,
were starting to drop back into the clutches
of that Sutton and Ingram battle.
Now, I don't know whether this was because Sutton and Ingram
were pushing on and going relatively quickly on that soft tire,
whether the mediums were holding those two back
or whether this was a more tactical battle
almost from Proctor holding everyone out
so he could help out Ash Sutton.
Roboton managed to get past Chilton as well
in the rest of his battles with the Hyundai's this weekend.
He seemed to be battling them for the whole weekend.
And then Sutton managed to get past De Leon.
And this was while Roboton was really interfering
with the back of Ingram and making Ingram
thinking about defending and stuff like that.
This is the sort of battles that I think we're going to see
all the way to the end of the season.
Agreed.
Where you're going to have to have your teammate around you
to make that other driver think.
And then you're going to have to have your other,
other teammate in there to also make that teammate have to think.
Yeah, it's going to get complicated
and there's going to be an accident at some point.
There is going to be, one of the teammates is going to fire off
one of the title contenders
and it's going to create the meltdown of all meltdown
on the social media.
And why is it going to be Proctor?
Just discarding it now.
And then Sutton managed to get past Proctor quite easily.
Didn't put up much of a fight.
I don't think he could.
Not on the tire, no.
Meanwhile Ingram was getting past De Leon
who had fallen back and then Proctor
allowed him through as well.
Reiterating back to Sutton versus Ingram
towards the end of the race
which would then get further swapped.
De Leon was now getting shuffled back
obviously on mediums and Proctor
gained a 10 second penalty for track limits
which pretty much put his race to the end.
That second weekend in the road, didn't he go on a craft?
He did.
He did because it got loyal to the points, isn't it?
Yeah.
So De Leon was dropping back through the field
and we wondered what was happening on the timing tower
and then we saw his car on the pit entry.
Didn't quite make it in up that hill.
Second.
And I do wonder whether this is as a result of the engine
finally giving up the ghost.
Second weekend in a row where he has had
on course winjects is having
backed him to do it for the weekend.
And the second weekend of the row in race three
has just fallen to pieces for him.
And it was literally two laps from the end.
It was.
And the yellow flags came up.
The yellow flags in that area for the marshals
to be able to push the car back up into the pit entry.
The race was allowed to finish under that yellow flag condition.
With Leon dropping back, this promoted Mikey Doble,
PMR with Cooper this weekend.
If you've missed that review, go back and listen to it.
You'll get all the update on what's happened with them.
But they managed to score a single point this weekend
which considering all they've been through.
That's a victory.
Is a brilliant achievement.
Yeah, that's a victory.
Which we've got had to learn our brand new whole new car.
A car that, as we said in the preview, hasn't set the series on fire.
We're being honest in this, Bobby Thompson's involved.
So yeah, a fantastic point for them.
And crucial for Doble in terms of, sorry, Doble,
in terms of the independence that he finished
all three races, which is crucial for the independent.
Definitely.
And then we had the final bit of controversy for the weekend.
It's not controversial.
It's the right call.
Which was Camish again letting Sutton through
just before the line.
However, this was still under double yellow flags
at the time.
And I think it was quite clearly in the double yellow flag zone
which the officials have agreed with
and actually swapped the positions back post-race.
And given Sutton three point points on his lightest.
Now, I have to say again, in mitigation,
because I like to do a bit of mitigation,
you would argue if you're a napper,
that they were past the instant
and the next board would have been green.
However, that's if spots and maybes,
that the move took place on the part of the circuit
where it was, you know, as you say,
the earth's route and it was neutralized.
And I am a Sutton fan.
That's been clear on the podcast over the years,
but I cannot get on my high horseback drivers
ignoring flags and then ignore this.
You cannot ignore the flags.
It's poor.
My massive argument against that is the fact
that they could have done it down the back straight
into the herping.
And that would have taken it completely out of...
I don't think they could.
Only because Camish was too far ahead.
I mean, he could have completely dropped the car.
Yeah, they could have done it.
And I can't just sort of give Sutton a pass
because he's one of the drivers that I tend to like watching.
It's poor.
It's, as I say, it's dangerous.
I think it's poor from the team as well
because obviously they would have arranged that
in that point unless Camish has been really sneaky here
and gone, I'll do it under yellow flags.
No, I don't think he's done it like that.
I don't think he's liked that.
And also, I think for Sutton
to give him a little bit of defense
is that it's not really his decisions in some ways.
Camish has slowed down.
Otherwise, he'll slow down.
Not a go pass.
I mean, England goes past the both.
Okay, it would have been reversed under the yellow flag.
But yeah, Sutton has done what you would expect
anybody to do in that circumstance.
Like you, I blame the team more
for not realizing it.
Trying to orchestrate it at that point.
Yeah, and the yellows have been out for a while.
And on the pit straight, where they all sit?
So it's not like it's an obscure part of the track
you can't see.
So yeah, I'm going to put it more on the team.
But I will say, as I say,
I get angry about this sort of thing.
I've got to be consistent.
You can't be ignoring flags.
Why can't drivers and teams and motorsport
people in motorsport respect the flags?
It doesn't look at their dash.
Right.
Right.
Anyway, from race three.
Hell one from on amended.
Camish from Sutton.
Ingram in fourth.
Chilton fifth.
Road bottom six.
Morgan seventh.
Rainford eighth.
Moffitt ninth.
Shedden tenth.
Followed by Smiley.
Lloyd Proctor after his 10 second penalty
dropped all the way down to 13th.
Patterson.
And then as I mentioned,
Mikey Doble getting into the points.
So what this means for the three main championships
is that Ingram remains top.
He has 323 points.
Sutton remains second on 306.
That gap is widening.
Then it is Camish who's taken third spot
on 228.
Road bottom on 214.
So 14 points back in fourth.
Hill 197.
Morgan in fifth.
Sorry, in sixth on 170.
Chilton one point behind him
on 169.
Rainford in eighth on 134.
Proctor, let's not forget,
only came in partway through the season.
His ninth on 116.
And I think the finish is high as sixth.
I'm putting it out there now.
And Smiley is also on 116
and is in 10th.
In the Jack Sears.
De Leon needs that by a single point now
over Charles Rainford.
309 to 308.
Ross Bourne is there or there about on 277.
But after that I think it is
between those three and arguably two.
Dolan is fourth.
Good effort in his debut season on 247.
Patterson on 227.
Nick Hamilton on 144.
Hal said on 94.
And Buxton on 55.
I've discounted drives that are no longer racing
in the championship this year.
So Pearson is higher up in the table,
but won't be scoring any more points.
And then finally in the independence.
Chris Smiley now leads that on 290.
Mikey Dobel on 277.
Lloyd on 265.
Patterson on 235.
Cook has dropped down to fifth on 206.
Obviously he's missed the last six races.
Stephen Jelly, I'm not sure his future holds,
but he's on 162.
Nick Hamilton on 151.
Nick Hal said on 109.
And Max Hall on 80.
So Halton, not only a head of Hal said,
far ahead of Hal said.
Yes, definitely.
The winning Jack Sears driver from this weekend,
as we've already mentioned, was Rainford.
And the winning independent was Chris Smiley.
Right.
Let's get into doing the predictions first
and the awards first.
Let's do awards first.
So I think we've probably gone for the same driver
of the weekend.
I think it has to be him.
Yeah, I agree.
It's a front row start.
Oh, sorry.
He was third technically.
But okay, he qualified well, won two races
and then finished in a good position
on the worst tie or worst tie available this weekend.
I don't forget the illness that he has had
to come back from that.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's done very well this weekend.
And he seems to love not kill.
He's been in Nick Houses off, which was just funny.
Regardless of your thoughts on it, it's just funny.
Your villain.
I found this tricky this weekend.
I've not found it tricky particularly.
I've gone for Robot.
And I think only because also if you look at his social media
as well, it's a weekend of what could have been
quantified well.
It's not his fault the car's underweight necessarily,
but okay, he's underweight and that's thrown away.
Any chance of progression race one.
He then doesn't really progress as much as you think
he should arguably.
And I think that's a great indication throughout the pod
to why that is.
But dare I say, from not from, you know,
being just qualified from the qualifying,
never really covered it this weekend.
Didn't really get close to this is a drive that has been
top six, knocking on the door of podiums
pretty much every weekend.
And he was nowhere near this weekend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I think from car potential to performance.
I think he, I think he knows lots of me left
on the table.
I think you're going to argue with mine.
If you go moff it, I'm punching through the wall.
I am going for Osborne.
I'm not going to argue.
I think he was looking very racey and race one on that
soft tire and he had the tire differential
of the drivers around him.
But I don't think he made the absolute most of it
that he could.
And when he got past drivers, he wasn't then going off
from that battle pack that he was in.
He was still getting dragged back into it.
Yeah.
I think you can make the same arguments I've made
for Robo with Osborne.
He didn't potentially get the best out of packages
weekend.
I think that's fair comment.
I mean, race three didn't finish inside the points.
And that those sorts of finishes are going to
really hamper his, his Jack Sears.
Yep.
And that I went for him this weekend and he
didn't come anywhere near.
No, that's fair enough.
That's fair enough.
No, I can understand that.
Surprise.
Good.
I've seen who you've gone for.
Who was what I was originally going to go for.
So I should change it.
Okay.
I'm going to say you're going to look at me
oddly.
Toyota weren't anywhere near as bad as I thought
they were going to be.
Three out the four scored points.
Three out of four.
Sorry.
Two of the four score points more than once.
So they are better than I thought they were
going to be, which I suppose makes it
surprise good.
I would have gone for what you've gone for,
but for a bit of variety, I should go to
Toyota.
But that is very much my second choice of
what I would have picked.
Right.
So I have gone for BMW.
I was not expecting BMW to be this good
this weekend.
We know it's a real-wheel drive circuit,
but with the struggles that they've had,
the Croft is meant to be a real-wheel-drive
circuit.
And they didn't perform as well as I thought
they should have done.
Yes, De Leon had a decent run.
Unlucky to get into the accident in
racetrack and Croft.
But, yeah, they did really well this weekend.
I know Hill loves this place,
but he made the absolute most of it that
he did as well.
Yeah, I completely agree.
All four drivers scored good points.
I think Moffat will be slightly disappointed
not to have got more from the weekend
compared to what his teammates were able
to do.
But it's been a tough year for BMW
and if they can take anything from this
for the final few rounds of the season,
then they could finish on a high.
Yeah.
Bad?
Re-start.
No way this weekend.
I was slightly surprised.
I was going to say Hyundai crossed the
board, but England did win a race.
They weren't as good here as I thought
they were going to be.
On the track where I fought their engine
would have a real, you know,
a fire door to the rest of the field.
Chilton really struggled in race one.
Okay, great in race two.
I was there.
We're never troubling anything,
but then Proctor had quite a good weekend
on the flip side.
So I'm going to go for a restart on the
basis that Lloyd and Smiley were just
anonymous.
Do you notice they were there?
No, they were very much in the bottom
of that points pattern.
Yeah.
And we're sometimes struggling to stay
in it.
I can understand why you've gone for
them.
This is going to confuse you, I think.
If you go PMR.
I've gone for De Leon.
Okay.
A poor moving race one
puts grass in the radiator when
ideally the three of them should have
been top three finish.
I would argue not poor.
I'd argue miscalculated because I
think any race driver goes for a gap.
But had consequences
were misjudged, let's say.
Yes.
No, I agree with you on that.
Drop down the field in race one.
Not great.
Should have been finishing really top
three with the face of BMW.
It should have been a one, two,
three for BMW.
Yeah.
In race two, don't think he did
particularly well.
I thought he could have done a little
bit better.
Obviously the non-finish in race three
may have well been down to the
issues in race one caused by over
heating.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
So, considering the weekend that
BMW have had as a whole and the
performances that we've seen from
Rainford from Hill, obviously,
and the consistency of Moffitt being
inside the top ten for every single
race, De Leon has let me down a
little bit this weekend and he's
done with not winning the Jax's.
I'm surprised I've made it bad and
cute.
I'm surprised he's not the driver of
the day for that.
I can understand it.
I don't fully agree,
but that's what these
personal opinions are all
about.
Cool.
Right.
Do you want a penalty corner or
did you not want a penalty corner
this week?
I think I've covered it in the
thing to be honest.
We've covered the penalties.
So let's quickly cross the
predictions.
Neva has got pole.
I don't have a camis.
You went for a road bottom.
You were closer but no cigar.
Well, sort of until you go
on the road.
In terms of winners,
I got two.
So I had Ingram and Hill.
I also went for Morgan who was
knowing it.
You went for road bottom, Sutton
and Hill.
So one point to you for Hill.
So that's two on to me.
And I went for De Leon and the
Jax's who once again had control
when it's the last little pit
and you went for Osbourne,
which I did at the time I
said was bold.
I said I'd go for someone
different but I should have
got with that.
Yes.
At the time I said it was bold
and I was correct to say.
So then we go on to the general
predictions.
And again, I've done well here.
We'll get you out of the way
first because you've got nothing
right this weekend.
So you went for a Scott on the
podium.
I mean, John Kellan did
technically.
It was bold.
Yeah.
I mean, John Kellan did give
an award out technically.
No, no.
All four to score points.
I will say you were slightly
unlucky of that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Roxton in hindsight
didn't really look like he was
going to be scoring this
weekend.
No.
But yeah.
This one you are slightly
unlucky of as well.
Yeah, I think I am.
So you went for a Camish and
Robotten to outscore Chilton,
Morgan and Proctor.
Proctor had a very good weekend.
He did.
So they scored 68 combined,
the three virtue drivers.
And they, Camish and
Robotten scored 62.
Good.
I've worked out on the
Robe.
It's been switched back.
So you were only
seven points off that
effectively.
So close.
That is unfortunate.
Yeah.
I grant you that.
But I was egging
Robotten to get past Chilton
and Morgan in that final race.
But there was a lot of
unfortunate things that
happened on this podcast.
So that's another one.
And you.
That was for one.
Yes.
And you disgracefully
refused to back PMR.
And to be fair,
with two laps to go,
that was coming in.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
You've got very lucky
with that one.
But you said no,
PMR was not score points.
You got nothing there.
In terms of me,
I went for three different
winners.
And going into race three,
that was a real possibility.
De Leon has won one.
Rainford had won one.
And then Rainford
just drove too well.
Damn it.
I kind of hope that
we might see a Paterson
or an Osborn come to play.
But no.
Yeah, I mean,
he did drop down,
but the next best
was Paterson in 14.
Yeah.
So perfect on that one.
I did go for Moffat
to be the best
performer in Scotland.
I've not worked out the
points, but it's clear
that it was coming to be
one.
But it didn't happen.
Can close at times,
but not quite enough.
Yeah.
If only actually,
considering that I'd also
gone for that as well.
First of all,
I take it back.
They should have disqualified
us.
Yeah, those.
That would have been
fantastic.
And I also have a PMR to get
points, which I look
great.
Disgrate when I suppose
I'm glad you're arguing
that it says points there,
not point.
But yes,
they've got a points
finish.
So that does
do fair.
We needed that from
Sam's point of view.
You did.
Well, we did.
You did.
We did for the
fan enjoyment of this sound.
That takes you to 20 points.
It does.
And it brings it back to 18.
So with three rounds to go,
it's three rounds to go.
It's three rounds to go.
Yeah, it's going to be
a good finish to the
season, I reckon.
Always is.
Do you have any final
thoughts then from the
Nock Hill weekend?
It's a difficult one
to really put
into perspective for the
challenge.
We had sunshine.
We did.
We had consistent
sunshine in Nock Hill.
We did.
And so I changed up
the racing that we got.
Yes, we normally get
excitement through
different changeable conditions
and stuff like that.
But I think we had some
really good close racing
this weekend due to that
smaller offset in the tyre.
And with drivers
in the midfield,
certainly battling
back and forth
between each other.
Absolutely.
For me, it's difficult to
know what impact
this has had on the
championship only because
of rarity.
It didn't see
certain an ingram at
the front.
Not too much.
I know an ingram won a race,
but other than that,
they weren't really
competing at the front.
Is this a full storm
for BMW?
Or are they
going to be in the mix
the rest of the season?
We're going to tracks
where I think
there should be strong.
I think Donnington
is a track where
they will be half strong.
Half the lap
is where we'll drive.
Silverstone,
I was very strong early
in the season here.
Ford a bit there as well.
And I think they will
be difficult to beat
next time out.
I think BMW
should also go
with Silverstone
as well.
Are they back to stay?
We'll have to see.
I think that
ingram is just
starting to spread
his wings a little bit
at the top of that championship
now.
I'm not saying it's
not going to happen
before people shout at me,
but I think from here
it's going to be
hard for certain now
to...
It looks small on paper,
but the way that car
is, the way ingram is
and the way that
they are finishing
so close to each other
for out the races,
it's going to be
tough for certain
from here for me.
My final thought
is all credit to PMR.
From the situation
they were in at the
start of the week
to where they were
by Sunday evening
all with a beer in hand
celebrating the point
that they got
is a brilliant achievement
for them.
Absolutely.
And we wish them
all the best going forward
for the rest of the season
and we hope that
BCCC community
will keep coming together
to help them
finish off the season
and help
Weaver
rebuild with PMR.
Absolutely.
And hopefully now
they can take
the data from the
team
and make them
a little bit more
competitive
for the remaining
rounds of the season
but to even
be on the pace
in a car
you've never driven
with very limited data
is incredible.
So yeah
the effort
those boys and girls
have put in
is nothing short
of miraculous.
So as you say
I can echo
your congratulations
and good wishes
to them.
Yeah.
Until next time
we'll be back
for Donnington
Park
next time out
for now
we are going to
Donnington Park
we will see some of you
there
but of course
before that
we will have
our full preview
as always
until we speak again.
Bye bye.
Making under yellows
Yeah.
Agreed.
There are
Marshalls on track
and it was
double wave yellows
with red stock.
Yeah.
I agree
I'm not going to defend him
I always say
respect the flags
I'm not going to defend him
the only thing I will say
that would have been
used in
mitigations
they're past the
I know it doesn't matter
but they're past the instant
and the next flag
would have been green
but should have
would have could
I agree
still in the zone
isn't it
but also
think that the people
on Facebook
should be disqualified
is also disqualified
and nonsense
but yeah
you've got a spider on you
it was a joke
from the
Oh sorry
there you go
it's been a good day for you
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