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Hyundai Santa Cruz
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small truck that is easy to drive and can carry things in the back. It's popular because it combines the features of a truck and an SUV.
Concept
Radwood
Radwood is a car event that showcases cars from the 1980s and 1990s. It's a fun way for people to see and celebrate classic cars from that time period.
Concept
Concor
A Concor is a fancy car show where classic cars are displayed and judged. It's a chance for people to see beautiful and rare cars from the past.
Concept
Auto Fair
An Auto Fair is a big car event where people can see classic cars and buy car parts or memorabilia. It's like a market for car lovers.
Concept
Formula One
Formula One is a type of car racing that features very fast cars racing on tracks around the world. It's one of the most popular and prestigious racing series.
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Chevrolet Suburbans
The Chevrolet Suburban is a big family vehicle that can carry a lot of people and their stuff. It's popular because it's roomy and can handle tough jobs, like towing trailers.
Term
LED light
LED lights are a modern type of light that lasts longer and uses less energy than regular light bulbs. They are becoming more common in cars.
Term
aftermarket
Aftermarket parts are items made by other companies to replace or upgrade parts on your car. Sometimes they can be better, but often they don't fit well or look good.
Car
Toyota 4Runner
The Toyota 4Runner is a type of SUV made by Toyota. It's built for driving off-road and is very popular for adventures.
Concept
restomod
A restomod is an old car that has been updated with new parts to make it better to drive while still looking like the original. It's a way to enjoy classic cars without giving up modern features.
Part
rear window louvers
Rear window louvers are slatted covers for the back window of a car. They help block sunlight and can make the car look cooler.
Brand
Pioneer
Pioneer makes equipment like speakers and radios that you can use in cars to improve sound quality. They're a popular choice for car audio systems.
Part
gauge cluster
The gauge cluster is the part of the dashboard that shows important information about how your car is running, like how fast you're going or how much gas you have left. Some newer cars use bright LED lights instead of regular bulbs to make this information easier to see.
Part
Recaro seats
Recaro seats are special car seats designed to be more comfortable and supportive, especially for people who like to drive fast or take sharp turns. They help keep you in place while driving.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car known for its speed and unique shape. It's been around for a long time and is loved by many people who enjoy driving fast cars.
Car
Volkswagen Beetle
The Volkswagen Beetle is a small, round car that many people recognize. It has a long history and is often seen as a fun and quirky car that people love to drive.
Car
Chrysler PT Cruiser
The PT Cruiser is a small car made by Chrysler that looks a bit like older cars from the past. It was popular for its unusual design and could be used for many purposes.
Car
Tucker Torpedo
The Tucker Torpedo was a unique car made in the 1940s that had some really advanced ideas for its time. Unfortunately, not many were made because the company ran into money problems and other issues.
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Chevrolet Corvair
The Chevrolet Corvair is a car that was made in the 1960s. It was different from many other cars because its engine was in the back, which caused some safety issues that people talked about a lot.
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Puma
Puma is a brand of cars from Brazil that are known for being small and sporty. They are often built on the same parts as Volkswagen cars, making them fun to drive.
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Ford Puma
The Ford Puma is a small SUV that looks sporty and is easy to drive around town. It's popular for people who want a stylish car that can also carry stuff.
Car
Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Type 34
The Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Type 34 is a classic car that looks stylish and different from other cars of its time. It was made in the 1960s and is known for being unique and not very common.
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Volkswagen Golf
The Volkswagen Golf is a well-known small car that many people like because it's useful and fun to drive. There are different types of Golf, including sportier versions that are made for racing.
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Volkswagen Jetta
The Volkswagen Jetta GLI is a sportier version of the Jetta, which is a compact car. It has better performance and a more stylish look, making it a fun choice for driving.
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Volkswagen Golf GTI
The Volkswagen Golf GTI is a sportier version of a regular Golf car, designed to be more fun to drive. It's popular among people who like a little excitement in their everyday car.
Concept
German cars
German cars refer to vehicles made by manufacturers from Germany. They are famous for being well-built and often luxurious, with brands like BMW and Mercedes-Benz being very popular.
Car
Ford Crown Victoria
The Ford Crown Victoria is a large car that many police departments used for patrol. It was known for being tough and reliable, which is why you might still see them on the road, even after they stopped being made.
Car
Ford Explorers
The Ford Explorer is a popular SUV that many families and police departments use. It's known for being roomy and good for driving in different conditions.
Car
Jaguar Mark I
The Jaguar Mark I is a classic luxury car that looks very stylish. It was popular in the 1950s and is known for being comfortable and high-quality.
Car
Chevrolet Tahoe
The Chevrolet Tahoe is a large SUV that can fit a lot of people and their gear. It's great for families and trips because it has plenty of space and can pull trailers.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Chevrolet Corvette is a fast sports car that looks really cool and is made in America. It's known for being powerful and is often seen racing or at car shows.
Car
Toyota Tundra
The Toyota Tundra is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and is built to last a long time. Many people choose it because it’s dependable and can handle tough jobs.
Car
Chevrolet Cavaliers
The Chevrolet Cavalier is a small, affordable car that many people used to drive. It was known for being practical and easy to maintain.
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Dodge Omni
The Dodge Omni is a small, affordable car that many people drove in the 80s and 90s. It was known for being practical and easy to use.
Car
Cadillac Fleetwood
The Cadillac Fleetwood is a big, fancy car that used to be very popular for luxury driving. It's known for being comfortable and stylish.
Term
horsepower
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and stronger the car can be.
Car
Porsche Carrera GT
The Porsche Carrera GT is a supercar made by Porsche that was built between 2004 and 2007. It has a powerful engine and is famous for being very engaging to drive, giving a more 'hands-on' experience compared to modern cars with lots of technology.
Car
Ferrari F355
The Ferrari F355 is a high-performance sports car made by Ferrari. It was popular in the 1990s and is known for being fast and stylish.
Car
Dodge Charger
The Dodge Charger is a big car that looks sporty and can go really fast. It's popular among people who like powerful cars that are fun to drive.
Car
Mazda Miata
The Mazda Miata is a small sports car that is very popular for being fun to drive. The models from 1999 to 2005 are known for being light and easy to handle.
Car
Cadillac Coupe Deville
The Cadillac Coupe De Ville is a big, fancy car that used to be very popular for luxury driving. It's known for being comfortable and stylish, representing classic American cars.
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Cadillac DeVille
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Chevrolet 454 SS
The Chevrolet 454 SS is a special version of a pickup truck made by Chevrolet from 1990 to 1993. It has a big engine that makes it very powerful, which is why many people like it for both work and fun.
Car
Alfa Romeo Gtv
The Alfa Romeo GTV is a stylish two-door car that is fun to drive. It's loved by people who enjoy unique and sporty vehicles.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is a fast and powerful version of the regular BMW 5 Series car. The 'E' is a code that tells you which version of the M5 it is.
Car
Lincoln Continental
The Lincoln Continental is a fancy car made by Lincoln, known for its stylish look and comfort. The 1956 and 1957 models are popular among car collectors.
Car
Dodge Ram
The Dodge Ram is a big truck that can carry heavy loads and is great for work or play. People like it because it’s strong and has a nice inside.
Car
Ford Bronco
The Ford Bronco is a tough SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road adventures. It's loved by people who enjoy outdoor activities and need a strong vehicle.
Car
Lamborghini Diablos
The Lamborghini Diablo is a super-fast sports car that looks amazing and is very powerful. It's famous for being one of the coolest cars ever made.
Car
Ferrari Enzo
The Ferrari Enzo is a super fancy sports car that is very rare and super fast. It's named after the person who started Ferrari and is loved by car collectors.
Car
Alfa Spiders
The Alfa Romeo Spider is a pretty convertible car that you can drive with the top down. It's loved by people who enjoy classic cars and open-air driving.
Car
BMW E30S
The BMW 3 Series is a small luxury car that is fun to drive and looks nice. It's popular among people who want a stylish car that also performs well.
Car
Honda S2000
The Honda S2000 is a small sports car that is very fun to drive. It’s known for being fast and having a cool design, making it popular among car lovers.
Car
International Harvester Scout
The International Harvester Scout is a tough SUV that can handle rough terrain. It was one of the first SUVs and is loved by people who enjoy off-road adventures.
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And welcome to Driving While Awesome. My name is Warren. I'm Lane. And I'm Art. Thank you for joining us. We're back once again. I wanted to mention right off the top, Sebrite Motors, Lane. December 20th, noon to four in the Sebrite, lower Sebrite neighborhood of Santa Cruz, California.
If you want a destination to aim for, Days Market, D-A-Y-S, Market would be the spot. Is there an apostrophe there?
Yeah, it's a guy's name. It's a guy. It's my buddy, Day. Yeah. Day used to be there back in the day.
Back in the day. Back in the day. So you get your tuna, your wow, wow tuna sandwiches. Wow. I was never, I'm not a tuna guy, but that's what people love there.
Well, they were so cheap. And like, how, why would they be any more expensive than that? But speaking of sandwiches, well, we'll get into this, but Sebrite Motors, December 20th, noon to four. Come out, come on, come on.
Bring your car, bring your family, bring your friends, rest.
Lane, do you think we should do like a little, little brunch before, like park early and then go to like Linda?
I am so down, dude. Is that something fun? Yeah, man. Or it could be park and then go go a little Sammy at the deli. Yeah, Sebrite deli or any of the coffee across the street at Java Junction.
Java Junction. That place is there. Oh yeah, dude. It's great. Yeah. Yeah, and there's plenty of parking, plenty of spots around there. It'll be chill, chilling. So yeah, come on, come all and then that brings us into Radwood stuff, which I
wanted to mention to the fine listeners of the podcast, Radwood at the Amelia Concor, March 7th, and Radwood at the Heritage Invitational in Charlotte, North Carolina, April 11th.
And those are both pretty much full blown Radwood shows sold out both events last year. It's looking really good this year because we have an awesome lineup for some carrots to dangle.
I'll just say that we don't have anything I can announce quite yet, but some really cool cars coming to both events, but more halo cars.
Yeah, I did. I did want to mention though real quick about Heritage Invitational. It's at the 10 tense Motor Club, which is normally a private members only track that is like really, really nice, super cool track.
And, you know, the facilities are really nice and all that. It's restaurant on site bar, but it's we're part of the Concor. So the Heritage Invitational is a Concor.
And there will be some heavy hidden Radwood era cars that are part of the Concor as an extension of what we do, plus like the Radwood piece, which is, you know, our own nice very varied group of cars, you know, but that's that's our presence there.
But Super Rad facility happen to be there now. Last year we did the Auto Fair, which is sort of like the flea market component of the bigger event.
But now we're like in the really like basically the coolest spot like on the track. We're displaying our cars on the racetrack sort of how we've done the past in Austin and at Goodwood.
Yeah, that's right. So tickets are on sale for the Amelia. If you are interested in coming out and seeing us in Florida and then the Heritage should be on sale.
Well, maybe right after this comes out, but following week or so soon. So go over to Radwood.com for more information there and we'd love to see you.
That's all I have to say about that. You had a lot to say. I know I did, but it wasn't that bad. We have some questions from our previous podcast we didn't get to. Would you guys like to start off there?
We can do that. We can also at some point we should talk a little maybe formula one. It's on the list. It's on the list. Yeah, yeah. No, I think we'll have time. Let's jump into these.
Our buddy Ben Roget says, what's the biggest risk you've taken in your professional career?
So dude, that's so funny. Warren, I just mentioned something on the last call. We were just talking about this totally not even considering this question, but I have an answer for you because it's very front of mine.
I applied at a little company with 10 employees called GoPro back in 2000, late 2009 or something and simultaneously applied at BMW San Francisco for a sales position.
And I turned down the sales position at BMW San Francisco and accepted the one at GoPro.
You idiot.
No, you could have sold so many cars.
And GoPro. What's going on these days?
Well, they were I left at the peak. Okay. So it was one of those things where, you know, there was a total risk, right? It was a camera company.
They didn't even have an HD product yet. It was something that I was interested in because I wanted to use it for autocrossing.
And yeah, it was it was kind of a, I mean, in theory, a risk there right from like just something very well established something that I knew very well to like just this other opportunity.
But that's that's not necessarily taking a leap like starting Radwood from and having a very cushy tech job and taking, you know, over a 50% pay cut when you have kids in a family and all that.
That was more extreme, I think from like an actual risk. Luckily it worked out, but that was that was definitely the biggest risk.
I think from like being established to nothing or to starting something from scratch versus like, you know, going from one position to the next and then just taking one of one one choice.
That was a risky one versus one that was established.
Yeah, I think that's a good. That's a great answer.
I can go my, I was in a position to do some career shifts when I got laid off.
So I was working in like for AT&T wireless and quote unquote working my way up to middle management, which is super fun.
And I got laid off and it was the best thing that ever happened.
So it wasn't really a risk, but at that point I could have gone back into that same world into like kind of corporate office stuff and I had some opportunities to do that, but I was a car guy.
And so I thought I would be really good at service writing and running a shop and no one seemed to think so because I applied at a few different places.
Yeah, you know, it just wasn't a fit or they weren't hiring, whatever it was, but then you didn't have a track record either.
Exactly. I was basically like, I'm a car guy, so let me work here.
And then my girlfriend at the time, her brother-in-law, his family owned a shop in Santa Cruz and just so happened to be looking for exactly that.
And so he gave me a shot and then five years later I left there and went to another shop and then, you know, driving awesome and Radwood and et cetera, et cetera.
So that was kind of the, I chose kind of like art, you know, it was basically, you know, not a, it was a big pay cut to go into the automotive field, but at the same time it was what I was into.
So it was a bit of a risk and it worked out.
Yeah, dude. I mean, mine's kind of my sec, mine's the same as our second basically.
It's like basically taking a, I don't know, at the time 75% pay cut to do Radwood full time basically and then do that for several years or a couple of years, a few years at that same, you know, just kind of at that rate at that rate, dude.
Yeah, as we have, you know, multiple children and.
Yeah, but it's like the story I think underlying there is like follow passions, see what happens, you know, that could almost be like an M&M lyric, but and then, you know, it doesn't have to be forever.
If it's not working out or you find another opportunity comes your way and you want to bounce back to that and then you can always, you know, come back to the passion stuff or keep it on the, as like a passion project, which driving while awesome always was
like we just did it because we liked it. So if it turns into something that's awesome and you get a lot of opportunities and relationships because of it.
Yeah, I mean, so for sure.
So just Ben JLR, I know that your designer, head designer was just fired or whatever. So just go ahead and you know, move on to something else.
Yeah, all these risks are like, I mean, in reality, they're pretty minor though, I would say, because like we could always go back and
That's what I'm saying. You know, it's like, it's like what?
Like these are risks like a lot of people don't take, but in reality, it's like not that big of a risk, you know, you could always go back and you can get another, you can get a corporate job, you can get your whatever, you can get a real job, you know.
And life is short. How often do you get an opportunity to follow a passion?
Like if you're into whatever it is, like if you're into music and you want to be in like the concert world and promotions and all that, like, you know, you can give it a try and see how you like it.
But if you don't do it, all of a sudden you're, you know, 60 years old and Ben wants to like sit around and just drink whiskey all day.
I don't know if that's like the best.
So he was to be there to go. I mean, well, it's also, I mean, there are implications, right? If like in our scenario, like if you're, if you have a family and you're, you're married and you have children to like provide for that.
There's something there, but like he's a single dude. So, so I feel like there's way less risk for him there. Of course, yeah, there's financial risk and, you know, and ultimately time that's the main thing, right?
Like if you're committed to something else and that's just, that's really it, but I think he's in a great position if he's considering some other things.
I don't know why we're assuming this, you know, he's just.
Oh, he asked the question.
Yeah, no, I talked to him. It's something that could happen.
Ditto's dad says, with Blaupunk and recently pioneer introducing modern versions of retro car stereos, what other automotive accessory from the past do you wish would get a revival?
I was thinking like a Garfield suction cup.
Dude, maybe make it magnet this time.
They're gonna say MAGA.
Magnets good or like the sunglasses cardboard windshield.
Oh, the shade by the sun shade.
How about bug? How about a bug deflector?
Bug deflectors are still a thing. I mean, still a thing.
I haven't seen like a plexi colored plexi bug deflector on on a modern car.
It's all like trucks. You just see those on like suburbans and stuff, but maybe not modern, modern.
As you were saying, did they still make the club?
Is the club a thing?
So what I'm what I'm getting, what I'm thinking though, like what is the improvement?
Cause all these, all these retro things are improved.
So is the new club used like a Bluetooth?
Like a like those shitty locks at B line that were there that never ever.
Yeah, that always are. Or they like try to lock 50 times as you're.
You know, I that's a good call.
I don't know if this counts. It's, I mean, so far Holly's the one who's like sort of kind of been spearheading this,
but like the retro lighting where it's like, it looks like a regular fluted lens,
like a regular halogen, but it has an LED light in it and it's way high output.
But they're the only ones who are doing it.
I feel like that needs to become the standard because all of this aftermarket shit that people are putting on retro cars is so awful
and it really ruins the cars.
I like that. That's like kind of that's like it all.
That's that's a good one because like you want the fluted lenses and all that kind of stuff.
And that's just, and that's also for the other pieces too, because people are doing it for corners.
They're doing it for like the driving lights and it just looks like shit.
I mean, I can, I can say with confidence, I'm pretty sure Warren that there have been cars at Radwood
that did not win an award that were in the running for an award because of the shitty modern lighting on it.
That just ruined the whole car for us.
Well, that's when it comes down to there's two good cars like take a Toyota truck.
For example, it'll be like a perfect restored Toyota pickup and a perfect forerunner, right?
They're side by side, but the pickup has those crappy LED cluster headlight replacements.
It ruins the entire vibe of the car kills it.
And I would say that those round, whatever they are, like six inch bulbs that are with the projectors built the two projectors
and then the black background with the blackout.
Dude, those ruin every car that they're on.
I just saw there was a story that came out. It was like a Baja bug.
It was like Haggerty does these like on Instagram.
They'll say like, check out this, you know, Resto mod or whatever it is.
And it was this rad build of a Baja style bug for the streets.
And it had the really smooth nose of a bug that they do for Baja bugs with the lights in the nose on the actual hood.
And it had those new headlights and I'm like, it's complete garbage.
And nothing else matters at that point.
I can't even pass the headlights.
No, yeah, I know you're dead.
I saw a nine six four last weekend like that and it had the those headlights and you're like, oh, it's a nice car nine six four.
I think it was a Targa even and then he comes to those headlights and he was like, oh, the car sucks.
Fuck that car.
Every decision you've made in life is wrong.
Tainted. If you're doing that, if you're doing that with your car, like, what else are you doing?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I can't think of anything else because it does feel like it's an electrical component that's being upgraded, but like better.
I was thinking of all like these accessories that would get added to cars, especially in rattle area, like rear window louvers.
Like having those maybe like adjustable, like you could like close them and open them in some way would be kind of cool.
I don't know. It's interesting.
Yeah.
All the rest of it's like mechanical, which I'm not like as excited about, but the the new stereos I've I've been looking to because I
Yeah, the new ones that were the new blob punk that was released in like eighty six or whatever looks really good killer.
Yeah, there's there's I had a meeting with with Pioneer and there's a whole retro line that they're going to be releasing.
That is that is they look so good. I'm sure everybody saw the drive article. So like that's a hint at to what's to come.
And we're talking about potentially partnering with them in the future here for twenty twenty six.
But yeah, like I'm really excited about that, especially for my car, because as much as I like the block, I like the blob punk.
Like it's perfect for the E 30, but it's just that the pioneer is a Japanese brand, so it goes better with like the ethos of my build.
So I'd rather have the pioneer.
But yeah, unfortunately, they're not here yet. But yeah, it's that's that's such a good one because it's exact. It's a perfect integration, right?
Like the headlights because it looks correct, but it's a improvement. It actually, you know, you get the blue tag and all the other things.
That's all you're asking for. I'm going to do the same thing with the van again because it came with just a Sony, you know, I guess whatever.
This is sort of in the same vein and I got a new gauge cluster for my E 30.
And it's like a fully rebuilt gauge cluster and it has LED lights instead of the original, you know, like the all of the bulbs, the halogen bulbs.
And so it's just, you know, you obviously still control how bright it is, but it's super clean and it's really even, you know, so like that's another little thing.
But I'm trying to think of something else that's like that. I mean, realistically, there's also like structures, right?
Like seats, like you can do like, like modern seats or something that have like better lumbar or whatever, but look like a regular recaro.
So there's stuff like that, but tires are obvious. We've, you know, we're, we preach that regularly.
Like the sprint pluses that I have, the Redistines that I have in my 30, they look like an 80s tire and the shoulder is nice and round, super clean.
That's a big one. And Fred Astine's doing a great job with that, but just like stuff that just looks correct, but has improved compounds and, you know, all of that stuff is great.
Here, here, SF production Gabe, you've been gifted a pair of time travel tickets, which allow you to go back in time to right the wrongs of automotive history with one ticket.
You will change the course of history by killing one automotive industry icon.
And with the other, you will have the ability to elevate an unsung hero of automotive history.
When and where are you traveling to and who are you choosing?
Dude, this is the hardest question I've ever heard.
Dude, the butterfly effect.
You will, you will, you will change the course of history by killing one automotive industry icon.
I feel like it's a, it's like killing a person.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or is it like an icon of design?
Oh, I was thinking a car, like a model, like a 911 is an icon.
I was thinking of a human.
Yeah.
What?
Dude, no Lamborghini.
I mean, like for example, if you, if you like took out the Volkswagen Beetle, it would be like a crazy domino effect.
Yeah.
Well, only two cars would be affected.
Well, no way more like small cars in the U S might be affected even.
Yeah, that's true.
Because that was the, that was what, you know, brought that on.
Right.
It was possible to have a car you could unsung hero.
Also, you get to elevate and then sung hero.
Brian Nesbit, designer of the PT cruiser.
Gone.
He gets, yeah.
He's gone or do you elevate him to the next level?
I like, I like are kind of him like Lamborghini being gone.
Just so I don't have to hear that stupid fucking tractor story ever again.
You only want the Porsche tractor story.
I mean, there's no Porsche tractor story.
They just made tractors.
The Lamborghini thing of like he was a tractor former.
Yeah.
I just want to, I feel like elevating Bugatti, right?
Like a Torio, like he, like they're so ultra niche.
Like if, if, like there was more from that, like in having like a full line of vehicles and having like a, you know, simple, lightweight sports cars in addition to the super cars.
Like that's one that comes to mind just off the top of my head.
But yeah, I mean, you have, you have to really, this requires some research product or SF production.
I know, I know.
I love it.
Gabe, I think we're, we're not prepared to go quite deep here, but unsung heroes is interesting because I still think I'm thinking people, right?
Like the designers and stuff that didn't get enough credit.
I mean, in theory, you would like, oh, what's this face?
Destroyed.
Tucker, how about the top torpedo, man?
Tucker torpedo.
I mean, imagine if that had just been a thing where we have a flat eight rear engine sedan.
But also the guy, right?
Like, I mean, like I feel like he was, he had the right ideas and like it would have like it just imagine how much further along American, the American automotive industry would have been right in relation to the rest of the world.
If we would have like, if we would have his designs and ultimately his stuff was accepted and integrated because if he wasn't such a nut job.
Yeah.
That's a great, that's a great one though.
Because yeah, you're right.
It would have changed everything going forward.
Yeah.
And then like, you know, the Corvair, what happened there?
There's so many little things.
I want to get back to that one.
Oh, and then promote the Corvair, dude, because he would have never written the book about Corvair.
That's true.
All right.
That's so mint says what non-GTI Volkswagen would you be most psyched to bring on a rally?
Carato could be cool.
Carato would be cool.
I mean, I, what about like a really well done?
Man, imagine this like a singer level of the, what do they call those?
The razor lines.
Oh, yeah.
Are they really early ones?
The bigger ones, yeah.
Bigger.
Are they bigger?
They have a different nose.
I got to look it up because it's, it's the early, early Carmen Gia's that had a certain
style to them. You never see them because they're all just like gone.
But if you had like a rally prep version of that for what do you got?
Puma.
Dude, the Brazilian ones, those are so good looking.
You know what I'm talking about?
And it's, I feel like just aesthetically super rad, all the VW underpinnings
and just like beefing all of it up, right? Go with Porsche everything or as much as
you can. I think it's such a cool car. They just, you know, unfortunately the
mechanicals don't match the looks and I feel it's just, you know, it's obvious
really why, you know what if you understand the Brazilian automotive
industry and what they had to work with.
It's a razor edge or just razors. They call them type 34 Carmen Gia razor
razor edge and imagine one of those with like full rally prep.
By the way, I don't know why war and go to one of his favorite cars of all time
and choose a golf rally because that's not a GTI.
I know that's cheating.
Yeah. And I was trying to go old like classic style like what would it
look like?
So that's my answer.
I think I mean a setup bug could be kind of fun.
Like if it was like a, you know, totally like a bug would be rad.
I also think just, I mean, it feels like cheating to you because it's based on
it, but like a mark to Jetta.
Gli. Oh, there you go. You go to door. That's like done up, you know.
Yeah. That's like two door or four door.
I mean, they didn't make a two door Gli, but two doors are pretty dope.
Oh, they never did, huh?
As far as I know, which is weird, right?
Because it's totally maybe over season.
Mexican market. Maybe it was just compete because it was competing with the
GTI too much as a two door.
I love the early ones. Mark one, Mark one, Jetta's are sick. Mark, Jetta,
a coupe mark one. Oh, those are great. Yeah.
Yeah. Have a good look to them. How about a mark? How about a newer?
Carato. Those are or shirako. Oh, like the like the Euro spec once
a mark six or whatever. Yeah, those are sick.
Those are really cool. How about this? Just a killer prepped van again.
Oh, dude. Do 993 swap or what? That one guy?
Dude, the full Porsche swap one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, those are
super fun. It looks so cool out there too. Oh, 30 and that might be
the winner dude. So yeah, Bobby Reed with the car says,
is there an automotive podcast from the early days of podcasting
that's no longer around that you enjoyed listening to?
Clutch kick clutch kick dude obvious dude.
You know, it's sad. It's like the laugh dude could never find it.
It's gone. Is it not on there? Have you looked at Camden tub Camden
tub? Yeah. I mean, I that's not around. Oh, I used to listen
to Hooniverse, Jeff Gluckers podcast. I don't know. It was
a no longer thing. I mean, I don't think he's done it for
yeah, six years or more. And that was with our Blake Z wrong and
him. I used to listen to that. And by the way, that brings up
the fact that I got a book sent to us this from that Blake Z wrong
wrote. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's called it's called the Germans
the most iconic German cars and their era. Oh, sweet beauty.
It's a guest gestaltin book. It's a hardback coffee table book.
It's very pretty. It's kind of like, you know, I mean, it's like
those books you got when you're a kid like that you just, you
know, you would go down and get the Ferrari book at logos
Warren. Yeah, or whatever, you know, you would be like, oh
man, I can't. I hope they have some good car books down
there. It's like the ultimate version of that for German
cars, but it's not as much like a to Z. It's more of like
a real like a real car enthusiast making the book as opposed to
like, hey, let's just grab all this shit, you know, like it's
like, it's like really good. It's like good photography. And
from what I could tell, I haven't really, I haven't read it
yet, but you know, it looks like it's like very curated and
well written and stuff, you know, that's great. It's like
an elevated version of one of those books that you would
get when you're a kid. Nice. Pretty red. Is it was the
Peterson one called the car stories? Do you remember the
Peterson one? Oh yeah, it was. I think it was car stories.
Yeah, that was a good one with. Yeah, with the two dudes
that we knew one of the guys died. Yeah, he did pass away
unfortunately. Yeah, but yeah, that was a great podcast and
yeah, I can't think of any others, but yeah, there's been
so many that have come and gone. Yeah, Matt Chewers says, how
do we feel about people that drive around in retired cop cars?
Now that Crown Vix are pretty much phased out. I suppose those
are those at least aren't so bad. Explorers, Suburbans,
Chargers, et cetera. On the other hand, question mark. I
frickin hate people who drive. I mean, my first thought
because my mind is they're a fucking criminal dude, like
they're always like a person. I'm like that person is like
shady as fuck. Yeah, I agree. We have a mutual friend. He
goes by hushy pushy on Instagram, Matt Brown and his
thing is he just said he's you were. I've been in the car
with him. He says is he's I don't know if that's a cop or
or a poor person. Yes, exactly. I mean they might sleep.
That's my first thought. I'm like, do they sleep in that
car? Like the chances of sleeping in the car are 50%.
I mean, yes, I know somebody who this guy that drives me
crazy. He bought a retired cop car explorer like a pretty
new one. It's all black with a cow basher still, but no
other like, I don't think it has any other lights like in
the cow basher. Anyways, and he brags that it takes
him like, you know, he shaves like half an hour off a
trip to Tahoe because everyone pulls over and he can drive
as fast as he wants. I'm like, yeah, because you're an asshole.
Like that sucks. You've like everyone is like kind of bummed
out when you drive by. Yeah, that's that's your whole vibe
and he doesn't get it. So Matt thumbs down thumbs down
just this morning. I saw twice on my way to pick up
and drop off my daughter or drop off and leave her
school. I saw a guy in a charger cop car and I
still am not sure if it was a product. I think it was
tinted window. So I imagine it was a normal person, but
you know, your party is like, are they undercover or
you know, is it just an undercover cop car? Yeah, you
don't know. No bueno. Automotive Omnivore says
some Corvette Mag, some Corvette Magna ride
shocks are no longer available because suppliers made
a standard size batch, but it was depleted more
quickly than expected by replacement of shocks
that displayed a slight oily film, but we're still
fully functional. What are other parts you think
might become no longer available as supplies are
depleted more quickly than expected? Are ZHP
shift knobs in danger from arts consumption alone?
You should see my collection. My garage. You just
use the whole room. Porter. I think it's
the stuff that's like super one off or like just
only used in certain models like the like self leveling
suspension is always a tricky thing. They just
didn't. There were long intervals of replacement.
There weren't a lot of the cars out there for
them to make big batches and then when it comes
down to replace them, they're hard to get parts
for. Yeah, especially if it's like a like a
trim specific thing, right? Like the top of the line
model only got this and those are, you know,
it's a numbers game, right? Yeah, I yeah, that is
basically it. I mean, and you would know this better
than anyone working at a shop, right? Like you see
this kind of stuff. Like you remember like there
was a power steering line that was specific for
my E thirty four and five and it was like seven
hundred dollars or something ridiculous and it's
just because that's the only the E thirty four
and fives have it. Yeah, but and like you
also it's crazy that and I don't even know
what it is today, but manufacturers are only
required to produce replacement parts replacement
parts for their cars for seven years and that comes
so quick when you especially these cars last a long
time like my tundra. It's twenty five years old
and so luckily Toyota is pretty good about it
about making parts, but like by law they're only
required to carry those parts for so long
and then some aftermarket suppliers pick up
the slack and if they see a need for it, but
yeah, it's it's sketchy. This is what makes
cars like a Lotus even sketchier, right?
Like even buying a brand new or like an Avora,
you know now Avoras are what seven years old,
right? Like or ten years old, twelve years old,
fifteen years old. It's like find a window
seal or something like that, you know, once these
cars are fully phased out like because now the
newest ones are still whatever three years old
or something, but once those are in that age
like, yeah, try find those little trim pieces
and stuff like that. The trim, I think
mechanical is one thing and you can, you know,
find people that will make, you know, metal
objects, but when you get into some of this
trim stuff, it's really hard and I think
for those like Japanese cars too, they last
so long, but then the trim falls apart
and to find those pieces is really,
really tricky, so yeah, I don't know man.
It's hard to answer this question as far as
like what will be the next part that we think
will become depleted, but everything
like all of the parts. Yeah, I mean, unless
these car companies really step up, like I
think Porsche does a really good job at it.
BMW does a pretty good job.
Mercedes is doing a pretty good job, but
yeah, you know, a lot of, a lot of companies
like kind of don't give a shit, so.
Absolutely. John Rye says who's the
Radist, Radwood era band or artist
doesn't have to be car related, just
personal favorites. Anyone else who
reads this, feel free to drop your
favorites as well. Radist, Radwood
era band or artist, cameo. We already
talked about this John, it's cameo.
Mentioned multiple times.
Obviously. I really like the
new wave slash like English invasion
that happened in the 80s.
So we're talking like cure and.
Cure, yep. The Smiths and
all that stuff. Like there's a lot of those
songs come on when I when we're at Radwood
and I'm like this defines the era to me
a lot of a lot of that.
So I don't have ways are up there.
That's very high for me. I mean, that's
80, you know, basically like mid 80s through
99 2000 away later.
Yep.
Yeah, I guess it just I mean I don't
know if this question is literally like
a definitive thing like this to represent
because you're describing like what represents
the era, the best or what you think of,
or is this just like what I'm into because
just you think is the Radist.
Yeah.
It doesn't have to be car related.
Just personal because I mean if you
can't like MC Hammer, for example, sir
makes a lot like super iconic of the
era, like very not right at all, dude.
Not right at all.
Lane says, I mean, no, because it's
not actually good. It's not actually
it's just is that how you define it.
It's a dorky little it's a dorky little
blip in the radar.
So is so is unless you really think
MC Hammer is the best thing.
Heavy Cavaliers Z24 not Rad at all
because it wasn't like because it was
just a dorky little thing.
Like I think it's super.
I don't think it I don't think it really.
I mean, you could say if you're using
it depends how you use Rad.
Yeah, like is Rad mean good or does it
just meet?
Does it strictly mean it's it's from
that period or that's what I'm trying
to figure out. We just appreciate that
art use that as the example. I really
like that you had that just right on
the tip. There you go is that that's
pretty rad to me and I think they
especially convertible is it though
you wouldn't want it though like that's
the thing I look at. That's what I think
around is like an actual word that I
use and I would say like the you
know what is actually it like Rad
means it's like killer. It's good.
It's like all this stuff like that
Cavaliers. What do you got?
On your list or Lanathan? What do you
mean? Is it you boys? I mean I said
BC boys, but I mean
I'm trying to think of like
people like fans that
that you know
the whole era
Dodge Omni GLHS
so rad
piece of shit
I mean yeah rock
for me. I love hollownotes
hollownotes very good, but
hollownotes very 70s though right like
more into I mean definitely into the
80s start in the 70s, but
they have some big hits in the 80s. I
mean some of the early 80s. Yeah,
but yeah, and you know
it can also be where it was
a big song in the 70s, but it was
like basically on the radio every day
for the entire Radwood era. You know
that that's something to but
kind of like a continuation song. Yeah,
we call that yeah. It's like run DMC
comes to mind
the police are very like
of my childhood. The police. Yeah,
that's that's a great one. I love
what is a what's called a
Fleetwood Mac. The cameos. The answer
is that to or to accept 30 that was
70s to a little, but they have
tons of 80 stuff to
yeah. Yeah, I think
this is a this is just a
ongoing discussion. Yeah, I'm curious
to see what people responded with
the only one we got was
that so meant said at the time
felt that fishbone was a great
embodiment of the youth culture
and vibe of the times. That's very
like still do before our
that's like a little bit before our time.
I feel I saw them play a lot
of here in Santa Cruz like a couple years ago
at Billy Idol. I don't know anywhere.
Oh Billy. I was good. Billy idols
like definitely like definitive
Radwood era. Yeah, George Michaels.
I mean yeah, there's like pop and
not a single mention of Michael Jackson
by the way, like probably
Michael Jackson, dude
yeah, but Donna Cindy Loper. I mean
like all that kind of stuff is very
it's almost like you want to
avoid those because it's so obvious.
Yeah, exactly to
pedal, pedal, pedal says would you rather
only be able to drive cars under
a hundred horsepower or
above four hundred horsepower
above four hundred
yeah. Yeah, it was
a question here.
Yeah, I guess he's going like would you go
like hardcore, slow car fast, but I mean
like. We're not like
masochist, dude. We're not
Brad Bell now or something with like
four hundred is great. Yeah,
you don't have to use it all. It's like great
speakers. They can go very loud, but when
they're quiet, they're still good.
Yeah.
B 58 underscore
TJ says
thoughts on brand purist
hating on builds, car scene, social
media toxicity, etc. Also
thoughts on wheels and opinions on
replicas versus O.G. brand wheels.
Oh, that's
some brand purist hating. I mean
there any
social media toxicity is
why I would get a life, but
really that's what kind of cool
dude
explains down.
I mean, I mean, I'm like
I'm always down to hate on the
Corvette, you know
yeah, but I'll give them the flowers
to
I just don't I kind of feel like
why put it out there if you feel that way
like, yeah, send it to your buddy
and be like, what the fuck is this all about?
But you know, the people were
basically just going on there to
to hate on a build or something.
I don't know.
I feel you dude, although I could
like I could pinpoint a time that I
hated on a build like there was this car
at the quail
is the grossest thing I've ever seen
this like custom car
and not the one we saw this last year
the freaking blue
no, not that one which we did
hate on as well kind of but like it was
the year before I want to say
it was this monstrosity
dude and it was just like
I remember being like so this is
someone's idea of a you know and then
some people were like, oh, you know
I built that thing, you know kind of
like, yeah, I mean I think
like there is like now I'm remembering that
what oh I know what it I don't even know what
it was just some piece of shit dude.
I think I I blew up a car
thinking that I was just like
of course I don't do the one of the
one of the the freak the one on
car cars on the
car in car that's the one that
remember yes oh
and yeah everybody
was so I mean it was great for
engagement like I don't think we've
ever had more people pissed off and
responding to your post
and ever which
I always like thought I was just it was a
layup like everyone yeah this is trash
right and it was like a corvette thing
right I can't remember it was a twin
engine twin engine
weird headlight
like just like bad fiber last work like
just like some somebody made
this thing in their garage and people are
basically like dude you got to just support
the craft and the the town the people
who are passionate and blah blah
even if you don't like it
special special needs builders alliance
came out there you go I mean I think so
my new the brand purest thing I mean it
just really depends on how the take
right like it's like because I see it as
like if you're elitist and an asshole
about it like I mean I don't like that
because like one of the things that I love about like the community
is just learning about as much as I can as
possible and like being introduced to all sorts
of shit but like but if you're a specialist
I thought you would like for example like
you see these guys like you see like you
know like a dude who's like a mini guy
like he's like a mini like a vintage mini
specialist and they're like super
sure like those guys are the worst right
many guys out of Barbara
and
and so like you know you have like
like minis and like there's like a
video that just came out recently about a guy in Japan
who's like that's all that's his whole
thing right and like he's not a dick about
anybody else's shit he's just like this is
what I'm into and like because of that like
he's an expert and you get to learn so much
about them and all of that stuff so like
it's just about like it's the approach
that you carry yourself like most things in life
but I think the toxicity
piece I don't know it just depends on like
some things can be warranted as you're describing
right like I love that worst spec account
like like just you know about the worst
it's called worst which
is like just really gross like
Mansory type shit and like yeah it's
an opinion I don't like it and I think
it's it's laughable
but I feel like also
when it comes to like just
like hating for the sake of
hating because it's like oh like I don't like
the your stance right like this it's
like I just don't care to comment as you're
saying Warren right like it's like that type of
shit it's like a matter of taste and choice I
mean I'll send it to you we'll send it to
each other and be like really what the hell is
going on here but the one thing that I get
fired up about that I want to comment I
don't even know if I do is
irresponsible driving videos that are
posted especially stuff that drive me
insane that that pisses me off so much
there was one recently where it's like
I had a spotter above and it's like
who gives a fuck you're ruining it
for everybody you're being you're such
and the thing that one
it's in our backyard right like it's roads that we
know which is and that we like to drive on
and then to like we know that the police
are fucking monitoring all these accounts and they're
watching all this shit and they see
like why do you feel the need to share
like why that's what I'm saying why are
you posting that like and your driving
was terrible like the line he was
taking was so horrible and
everyone was heckling him on the comments
and there's a few people going like I don't
really see what's wrong with this like whatever
he had a spotter like dude
this is exactly the problem because there's
people like you that are watching this going
that's cool let's go do that and then it
ruins it for everybody the other
tactic I'm
taking if there's a questionable
bill that we take pictures of like that one
from the quail which is just like the
most bizarre electric car
thing is just present it
as fact here is something we
saw it has this engine
it is built here
what do you think no just let
that's a great way to do it because it's
kind of in a way it's
saying I care hey you kind of know my
opinion but I'm not going to like talk
shit or anything here like I actually
I got I did that
recently I there was someone
taking pictures like modeling
shots at a car show I was at and I
posted a video like in
Instagramers in the wild basically I
just wrote Instagramers in the wild
on our dwa account and that one
guy believe you know it was
like the same thing like tons of engagement
people being like well that's fine
let them do their thing you know
yeah but all I said was Instagramers
in the wild and then same with I think
I did the same thing at quail this
year that that girl dancing on the
Honda stage nobody's
watching yeah influencers
yeah yeah yeah
the question about wheels
I really don't like reps
but
there are exceptions so
for example
I said this publicly I really
really hate multi like fake multi
piece wheels I think that's so gross and
so cheap and like it's like
on par with like the the
headlight thing that we talked about like it really
saying not they're they're fake
they're not even they're not three
but they have the fake bolts like it's
so stupid so I really hate that
and it's also heavier like the whole thing is awful
but
for example there are some speed
line wheels that are no longer produced and there's
a company called RH out of Germany that
makes replicas of the original speed
line design and so they're
the same style they look
the same but they are a real authentic
three-piece wheel and you can get them in more offsets
and do all that kind of shit like
I'm down for that like at least it's a quality
product and they're off and they're offering
it no longer exists like that's
that's cool like I'm down with that yeah
and there's also examples of that like
the group for Kevin Yolos
right group for them
say
Ireland engineering was offering those replica
Alpina wheels which were
made by Abraham I forget
who actually picked them up and started making them
but you just couldn't get small
Alpina like
20 spoke wheels they just didn't they weren't around
so they made a really good replica
and it was they still
worked like go yeah
and go Westies making the replica of like the van
again wheels in different diameters which
is awesome you can't
van again or a Volkswagen ever made them so
I think it's case by case wheels are
so specific and like
it's we can have a whole podcast
just on wheels and yeah like when
they're filling a filling a niche and
it's something that the company is
not going to do or isn't
more but more than likely
it's like they just don't
there's not around anymore and they're not
yeah anything and that's cool
because it's almost like reviving a brand
in a way as opposed to like
you know and like watches it's like
doing a full like replica
of a Rolex which exists yeah
that's weird yeah which is good
and that sucks that's lame
lame because I think it like T-37s
right like one of the most copied wheels
and the same thing you can go on Teemu now
and they'll you can get exact replicas
with all the forging like fake bullshit
on it like they say made in Japan
when they ship when they come they're
only like you know two inches
big it's so stupid and
like just it just like how could you live with yourself
right it's like you're just like
but anything to make a buck
yeah the other yeah that's
also to your point are the fake
like three pieces horrible
and then also on the off-road world
and every freaking truck has these
it's like the fake beadlock oh that's
pretty gross that's really bad so cheesy
dude and going back
to what you said are with like the weight
of these wheels the replicas can be so much
heavier because they're just poorly made
and that's that's a problem like some of
these AMG replicas are
these monoblock style wheels are so heavy
and yeah they might look pretty close
like 95% there
but then if they're also heavy it's like
just go with something different you know and
they're weak too and they're not to you
be approved like there's a lot of things
like reasons to not buy
like these replica wheels there was a
what's that company that was
up on the East Bay and it was just like
there was accounts like
just best like just focusing on
those things failing oh right
cracking yeah
yeah 9-11
Fook RS says
it's your 912th
episode any thoughts
of the new Porsche 992.2
GT2
slash RS
will it be a slant nose
the audience wants to know
I'm out dude I don't even know
who cares
yeah that thoughts her yeah it's not our
world right
I know they I can't even tell a 992
from a 991 dude
yeah you can not really I mean I could
yeah I guess the vertical grille or something like that
but but not really the nose
is so different isn't the whole intake
the front lower than the point
2 there's point to I don't even know
dude oh no I know I can't tell a 992
2.2
and 2.1 and but
yeah yeah
I've got full old man mode dude
it's just not yeah I mean
yeah these are not the droids
we look for droids we're looking
for
yeah I know it's
it's sad but true I'm sorry for the
listeners that are interested in the
brand brand new stuff but
post
I don't know like what year
we faded off into
oblivion I mean probably
really
I think it was later it was
definitely later than 10
I mean but what
there's like I mean we love
ourselves like you know like
what Gordon Murray's doing you know like it just depends
on like what the application approaches
and all so unattainable not
that like a Carrera GT is attainable
and at all but at least it's stuff I can
I don't know like that
that might be the last car where it's like
it's had a lot of you mean like
they're
very much analog enough
that Henry catch pole
post that he just put up from the bull market
he was driving a Carrera GT
he loved it just saying how awesome
it is and it seems like such an amazing
car as just like seems peak
Porsche yeah one point two
six it could be yours for
dude they were like 500 grand
all day forever and then
totally
380 yeah my
my old skyline was in there I didn't I had no idea
the previous so hot
dude I knew and I forgot to comment
because I saw warranted last night but
right when I saw it I'm like dude that's our
skyline it's got to be right
yeah I was I mean I'm
sure someone else has a silver skyline with
gold wheels but
yeah and that was filmed or shot in Atlanta
right and your car that's where it is somewhere
it's in Atlanta yeah it's a little
tell me because I mean he usually sends me
updates on a random stuff like
and he's still super stuff on the car but
yeah it I saw it on the post
like before you sent it and I was like oh
shit that's totally my car and I clicked on it
so how does this make you feel where you got rid
of the car you know it's in the bull market
it's appreciating and I got I got nothing
for it yeah
and I haven't been able to refinance my
house yet by the way so pretty
sweet yeah but I think
you know I was telling Matt
last night about this you know
he made a meme about me specifically
maybe but
I feel like it's one of these things where
I genuinely let go of cars
like you know I have zero
attachment like I
that's just the way I operate
like the cars moved on is this because
of frozen
I just once it's gone
like I'm my mind is elsewhere
like I did my thing and like I
like I don't regret it that I
I I did what I wanted
to do with it I experienced it
and now my mind is elsewhere like I
I want to check other boxes and I my
mind is still very much an f-355
world I am it's going to be a very
long time before you wake up
wake up his his regrets are things
he didn't do not do it
yeah exactly by the way speaking of which
I think about my I'm going to
and the I'm going to the the most
expensive car to maintain so basically
like like my 30 just like full
money pits forever like that's going to be
my move it's like two cars one or two
cars now that I just throw all the money
in the world at like that's going to be
the approach yeah so here's
here's the bull market lists for
Hagerty and not just because we're
employees of Hagerty but because it's
relevant to this podcast
1968 to 1970
Dodge Charger
99 to
2005 Mazda Miata
the continental mark two so that's that
like Frank's the mantra
they're cool they're very rare it's
cheap they're like they are kind
of inexpensive for for what they are
compared to like the best car in the world
basically at the time right kind of thing
yeah that's a good point it was
definitely up there and only made
1956 to 57 so like
very rare and they weren't even
they weren't even a Lincoln they were
just a continental right they were like
yeah I mean what is that what is the
compare like what is the equivalent so
would have been like a rolls right and
what would have been or like a gear
like one of those gear bodied
Chrysler things or but if we're
talking about quality same for same like
that's what I'm trying to think because there's value here right
Cadillac like a Cadillac
Coupe Deville or like
be a Ritz something like that like
very very and those are what three times
the price I
don't know what these I have to look a little
those things are only like fifty dude
I took photos of one
during code for RM or one of the
whatever
and it was so nice dude and it was like
50 grand you know
huh that's yeah crazy
1990
to 93 Chevy pickup the
454 SS
oh yeah those are sick
Corvette 06 2006 to
2013
Alfa Romeo GTV feel like that's
probably should have been on the list
I feel like that's like a long time yeah
that's kind of old news right
BMW
M5 so
that's the
the E
yeah wait don't you guys think
the
it kind of feels
wait what was the second car you said
oh the chart the first car the
first car
I mean those already those
like popped and have gone down and then
I think that's what they're saying it's probably that it's a good
time to buy them now because they're going to go back
up that they will be
so I looked it up classic dot com right now
1956 57 Lincoln
Continentals
55 46 80
55 60 49
36 52
56 yeah
that's crazy that 50 ish gets a good
one yeah and I mean in the in the
periods that you mentioned is probably to underground at least
at least yeah
yeah for a good one that's really well done
it'd be probably more than that
Dodge Ram charger which I do
think these are always underappreciated
it's funny that they they called out the
second gen yeah
81 to 93 yeah I like
the early ones with a removal top
but I look in both and when I saw
that I was like fuck I should have gotten
you know because I I've always loved those
my dad had when we were a kid too so
I was more interesting than a Bronco
but I think
better looking in a lot of ways
although I do love bullnose Broncos
like we had at Radwood
Mosing brought out the bullnose
style I love those ones killer yeah
the skyline so
95 to 98
and then
GTI VR 6
and then the aforementioned
Porsche Carrera GT
so if you can get one of those
so Carrera GT they're saying
is on the rise huh
or is it probably yeah
well I think I think when you see it
compared to the
Ferraris you know of its
of its generation and what Diablos
are doing and stuff like here's a car
that's so advanced and amazing
and it's still but still so analog
right yeah right
and it's a long play right like this isn't
definitely going to go up because it's so
special and it was the end of an era so
whereas like an Enzo or whatever
you know like there's those cars that are
even more valuable and they don't have
the same level of analogness and engagement
as this thing does so I can see that being the case
I know yeah if you compare
it straight like
right to the to the Enzo it seems
like the Carrera GT is such
a better long-term
investment right so I mean
just the fact that it's a manual transmission right
right right
yeah so that's
I think that they're always entertaining
3 gti very good call to on the VR 6
I think like the standard ones the four
cylinders horrible but the VR 6 is so cool
and it's the right size
they came in really awesome colors like really cool
interiors like they've had
like yeah they've been sort of like
I was gonna say dormant but
they just haven't gotten much left on for sure
we have mark threes in general like
yeah they kind of people kind of skip mark
three and go to mark four
yeah
we had
another question here if you don't mind
Mr. Loverak says
what do you do when you can't sell a car
arts never had this problem
keep slashing the price
find a way to keep it the market seems
terrible right now it's interesting
I mean art your move was
just auction it at no reserve that's the move
I don't know what he's selling right like
I don't either is it a
that has a platform like that would
or is it like a super cheap car again
it really depends right
yeah I think there's so many
variables there can you
afford to keep it do you want to
afford to keep it like
is it under 10 grand and it's just like
every time you pay registration on it
you're just kind of bummed because you don't use it or is it
a lot of money and you're losing
20 grand on it or you know
I don't know there's so many scenarios right
but yeah yeah I agree
totally depends on the car but
I would say that like slashing
the price sucks as you
see those cars on craigslist where you're sort of interested
and then next to you know it's like
still there it's down another
500 bucks it's still there another
wrong with it what's wrong with it I'm
not interested and then it's been on too
long now that even if it is good
it's tainted so
yeah that's tricky for sure
I don't know about the market in general
like being horrible
but it's I mean it's definitely soft overall
I keep hearing about that
and Brandon being in
that space in particular like he's
confirmed that especially with new cars
and I mean yeah
yeah I see it though overall like even
like I'm looking dude F through 55s
you know
I mean they definitely
have come down from the craziness
that you were looking like right before
you when you were looking they were
like okay and then they went like roller
coaster and I feel like they're coming
back to where they are right now like
are we talking 120 for a good one no
like you're still like one like 140
would have 160 will get you like a nice
driver
and then you know all the cream puff
shit is crazy it's still over 200 grand but
for a manual hard topper gts
the the cabs or the spiders are pretty
cheap you can even find them for high
90s now which wasn't the case for a while
yeah but I don't want a spider
yeah I think
it's been like a $40,000 correction I
think like overall across the board on
those but just in general to I'm looking
at air cooled stuff like you can get 911
sc's for like 50 to 60 grand and for a
second there they were all 70 plus
you know so I think there's things are
not yeah it's you have your
special sort of like a lot of shit
that's always doing well but like
overall things are kind of soft
yeah portion feels pretty
stable though
it's pretty kind of kind of this I mean I
paid 60 for one
yeah but I think you're and that was
I mean
yeah top of mind but I think your car is
worth at least but I got a little bit of
I got a little bit of a I got I got a
g50s in particular still doing well
yeah
yeah I think yeah e30s are
perpetually 15 grand so
that's never changed
at what's called
Elyse's are still you know
high 30s low 40s but yeah
there's some that are just you know they
survive Elyse's will never be worth
more dude at one point they're going to be
worth like they're going to be dirt cheap
because they never go above 30 grand
well and 30 grand now is way less than
it was 20 years ago yeah
our do you ever kick yourself for not
buying the Elyse with the s2000 swap
yeah that first gen that
oh no that was a b18c5
that was an integrity bar engine
that was sick oh yeah that was a really
cool car yeah yeah
I mean not kick myself for but it was
it's definitely a cool car though
it popped up a couple times though like
it Brent what's the name Brent sold
it and then it popped up again
after that
yeah I think you're right man I
saw that when I saw that in Arizona I'm
like gosh that is such a cool
very cool like I'm sure it's a hell
of a car to drive it would probably be
just go cart all the things
do you guys do you guys
watch formula one oh really
what is that
you guys ever watch it
so I caught up all the races I just
did race it race in 10 or you know
race in 20 or whatever yeah
I didn't do 30 but
so I just did that but the last race I
watched which is which is fun
but let's hear your thoughts
dude are you proud of Lando are you bummed
what's the deal he backed
his way into that one
how many races did he end up winning
because I think he you're one and
Verstappen both words one seven yeah
no so only
only only Verstappen
one seven they both one six
according to my calculations
right dude I looked at this
yesterday and let me see if I can put
my history I can and then
I think they edit
same with polls I think
the piaz three had six
polls maybe and Lando might
six or seven and then
Verstappen had seven or eight
Verstappen I know had the most
polls most wins I just
I'm just really surprised to see like
I mean I know it sounds like Lane you're not
not a big Lando fan but like why is
he getting so much hate like he's
obviously very talented and it's like and it
worked out it just happened to work out it was
luck of the draw right like it could have been
piaz three or nor is yeah but it's like
you know piaz three did really poor for a while
the second half of the season at the end and
then he came back but like you know so
it's not I mean nor a state consistent
I don't understand the hate
for Norris really like because he
was really well he was really loved
about like and then in Mexico
he got booed by everyone in Mexico for
some reason so weird
that was kind of weird and then
I think there's been a few comments he
made like he addressed it in the press
conference where he's like you know the
comments I made or just like in the
end I just said I'm and I don't really
mean I'm like I have more respect for
everyone in the grid than anyone else
he's climate you know he's like because
you know he said things like
like at one point he said like Max
didn't do anything special when Max
like won that race from night you know
in the rain last year
there's been like comments like that
where he said oh Max didn't do anything
special like kind of like and and
then people are like well look at
you buddy you know kind of like
there's been some stuff like
that where he makes
these kind of
I don't know yeah he feels
like kind of like a little he's like crying
in the corner but then also talking
shit you're like I don't know
well but I don't I don't
hate my I think it's well deserved
yeah yeah I think he stayed
consistent I mean and like you know
that's the thing that's the main thing
with this type of yeah no one was
consistent that's the thing I think
ever well consistent in the
Austria like that's the thing is like
within I'm saying within the McLaren
and like yeah but he kind of
wasn't dude that's the thing it's like
I mean it was ten points right or whatever
it was but I don't think he was
more consistent because they both had
their big lol's like there was
a minute there were like
he asked me was 29 points up
on Norris and Norris was just
flailing dude you know
and then they were even giving
Norris like
you know they gave Norris a victory
or two as well
in there so I would say he well
there was that one yeah they were they
switched right after they pitted and they
made it but I mean like papaya rules
right and
yeah but that was bullshit because it was
a fluffed pit stop so
that's not you can't like
that's like
yeah so are you guys
looking to well go ahead art yeah I
no doubt we're stopping was the standout
of the season like the fact like
his comeback was amazing like you know it's
definitely one of the best things like in
the sport like oh that I think
historically like if you look at it
it's a huge deal and I feel like it's
it isn't getting a ton of praise
like because there's a new champion and
you know all of that and it did break his
you know now he's
he didn't have that like five
wins five sorry world
championship streak which is a really big deal right so
historically there's been very
few drivers who have done that so
you know it definitely
steals his thunder if you
will but you know
what he's been able to do with a with
an inferior car is very
impressive not that it's the worst car
like I mean it's still a good car but
but it's definitely might
be it's probably as good or better
right at the end right
right so
yeah I mean I think it's
it's just yeah I
I'm surprised here okay I think we're more
aligned than I thought I thought like you were on board
with like all the hate I'm like what the hell why is everybody
so like so annoyed and like
really like pissed off and like
realistically no like
I think you know he's he is he is very
good I'm sure there's maybe some
immaturity still there and all that but I think
like it's good on him right like
for sure I think he has to back this up
though like he has he's
shown like he he was
he is like press conference at the end
did you watch it like yeah where he went
on he went on some diatribes
and like it was
pretty good though is very from the heart
and you're like like this is just a guy
like venting basically and he was
I think a lot of
type like if you didn't like him or something
it would make you kind of like understand him
a little more
you know it's just kind of
like talking about how hard it is and then
like I was listening to F1 Nation
and they were talking a lot
like about how they think this will help
him because he is a little bit
he does lack confidence sometimes and stuff
like that and the fact that he did turn
it around because he was
racing really poorly at one point
or you know not poorly he was still
fast and everything but
you know a tenth
or two down on
Piastry but
yeah they're saying you know it's like some
people when they win that title they're like
done dude it's like
you know Rossberg it was like
dude I used every like it's
very hard to win a title
and to keep up with that like mentally
and physically and everything but really it's
a mental game and it's like Mika
Hackett and said that too he was like
done you know he quit
you know he was like I'm good
and there's other people like Jensen Button
said
he was like happy winning one title he's like
good like I won my title
now I'm happy winning races
imagine like to keep the intensity
that high for so long and then once
you hit that I mean it's just like any big
championship but like
it has to be such a low the guys
that can do it consistently over and over
like a Hamilton or Verstappen like
crazy dude good on them to have
that drive but yeah I always think
about that too in other sports where
especially in like where you're getting paid so much too
like I think that's probably a big factor too
and it's like I have nothing else to accomplish
here like yeah check that
yeah and these solo
sports are even like
these individual sports are
I think more so than
like basketball
or football or something where you have a team
around you and yeah and you
have more accountability too
yeah it feels like these
these are way tougher to like keep
going really well
the teams are also very very involved right
I mean there's there's a massive effort on the car
and all the strategy and like and that's
and that can make or break a lot of this shit
and that's and that happens right like I mean
Ferrari's renowned for it like I mean you can
have the fastest guy out there but
if you guys are blowing it on the strategy
or the car itself then it's it's
it's impossible right I mean
that was a big big headline right like
I mean what did what did
Hamilton do did he get top
five did he ever make a podium
he won a sprint race yeah
he's the only winner in Ferrari
this year wow
that's a that's a big headline
in itself and then how do you
guys feel about the new regulations coming
for next season is this like a good reset
or is it kind of like it's
so up in the air dude and then new
teams yeah yeah new new
Cadillac coming in and then also is
like is like no DRS
and like what's that going to do is like
it gets rid of the DRS train
does but does it just make it like it was before
the train of people that can't pass like
you know lack of
ground effects yeah I think also
what is that going to be better
yeah I mean and that's like it's a
it's a total
what do you call it it's
it's a mystery because a lot
of this stuff does have to do with
how the drivers mesh with their car right
in the style that they need to drive the car
to extract whatever the car is about so
it could benefit who knows maybe
you know like someone in the midfield more
like versus you know the front runners it's
really it's very interesting I think it is a big
shake up I'm really I'm
very excited about it because it is
the biggest real change in history
like for like how drastic it is so
there's just so much going into it
the last thing I'll say about
Lando though is I feel like because
with all things in life right like when it
comes to your your career your performance
as an athlete or whatever it's like it's
it's it's about your
your improvement as an athlete and the
change right and I feel like one thing in
particular that Lando sucked at
a lot and did really well
this year significantly was his starts
like he got so much better as
starts so true and so like so and that
was like a such a crucial thing for him
and so he got a lot better at that so
that was that was nice to see his race
craft is still good and all that but I
feel like that wasn't that was a although
that was all second that was all second
half too because even earlier this year
he was he was failing he was
max would pass him and then like
yeah yeah so I looked up
so I was trying to find like a good
comparison like a head-to-head and I can't
fucking find it but it's a so Lando had
seven wins this this season versus
piastery six and
six polls versus a piastery seven
but
Norris converted more of his
polls into wins so there's that
and I mean I think
two of those were kind of like
team procedure shit thirteen thirteen
pull so yeah qualifying
favored Norris thirteen
to eleven over
piastery
but piastery did have twelve fastest
laps compared to ten of Norris
and
yes so there was a dnf there
well yeah but so yeah I mean there
they're pretty neck and neck you know and
piastery is obviously very very talented
and it could and when you look at
piastery's growth from last year it's
kind of insane so if piastery continues
to
you know improve oh man
in his fourth year he might
I mean dude what a start
unbelievable yeah I mean I also
yeah and then I would love antinelli
to I think there's antinelli is
undoubtedly like a
you know a future champion I think he's
extremely talented and like like based
on what he's so young already yeah like
it's amazing I think total wolf hit
the nail on the head with that he said
he's a prodigy and like he's he
obviously you know just like a lot of
these people who scout athletes right you
guys know more than I do like just like
having that skill of finding those right
people that are not even at their prime
yet and are already this good it's
is very impressive to be like
other sports oh yeah I was
another sports you look at people who
are coachable to and right and he
is yeah and he's very humble and
like he's I think he definitely so
young so young he probably
easy to mold I think all
all the rookies did a good job
but and I think
I I feel like
sad for Hajar
because I think he's gonna be he might
just be swallowed up by Red Bull again
yeah but he is
going to the new rule set might help
that yeah might be good right because
it is like such a big
change
but like Bierman
was killing it he had like yeah he's
great for he had like five in a
row where he was on the points and
then even
what's his name on kick Sauber
was really good oh
board Marco touch yeah
Bordeletto who helmet Marco
was like made some comment about
early on helmet Marco's gone
that's kind of I saw that yeah helmet
Marco's gone then we have a dude you
want to say a sayonara sayonara
sayonara you there
there were so many beams after the
race my favorite was it was
it was a black and white picture of him
like photoshopped into a kamikaze like
you know soldier and it said mission
failed
like what I like last race
yeah I like
the like it was like yuki's defense
and it was like it's like a lock with a
cheeto sticking through like cheeto
stop you know like yeah yeah I mean
it's and of course and he's just
dude I mean I I feel like
it's unfortunate because you know
I'm a I love Japan and I
want there to be a good Japanese driver in
the sport you know just as much as I want an American driver
in there but um like
I just don't think he's a good racer man
like he's just he's just so stubborn and he just
does really erratic shit and like
he's like a he's a good enough driver to be
there like no doubt he deserves to be an F1 but
like like to be like the one of the
best like just as you're saying right like
you have to have the craft but also be
a you know coachable
and and be like sensible
when it comes to feedback from your team
and working as a team player like it's
he's just so fucking stubborn and like
it's unfortunate to see because
like that's like that in the last race
like he they were trying to like advise
him and he's like I know what I'm doing and then he totally
fucking blew it you know it's
yeah it's I feel like HR might
have a little bit of that
as well he's a little feisty
you're right yeah
but you need it you need the fire
intensity
Cadillac that's what I always say
dude bring him back check oh
and Val three I know
it's like the all stars
it's like a reunion tour crazy
dude it's like it's gonna
our team
it's gonna just look so weird and Alonzo
is forty four like that is
no he's not forty four
yeah I think so yeah 30
no let's see a lot thirty four
thirty four let's see how old
I thought I saw using oh no
sorry Alonzo yes Alonzo is forty four
sorry yeah I thought you're saying
ball ball three
just talking about the
yeah yeah yeah Alonzo's
oldest ice dude anyways
but he's still killing it
he beat stroll he's beat stroll
like he beat stroll every race
every qualifying well
not every race but every qualifying
should stroll be out there no
stroll should not be out there so
there was a point though we're
never a stroll like got pole in
the rain and whatever I mean
yeah it's like he can drive but
there's another that that seat
is an opportunity for someone that's
more skilled you know and like that's
like that's the unfortunate thing
that's frustrating and we've seen
these we've seen these rookies come up
that are killer right yeah and
stroll has more
whatever q three
or is a cute yeah q three
just you know eliminations
than anyone else sweet yeah
um all right
trivia time
trivia time
where was the first
automobile race held
in the united states
the brickyard
negative I feel like we probably
covered this but I know the pike
speak hill climb is one of the
oldest if not the oldest
ooh that's a good answer but wrong
uh Mount Washington
Watkins Glen
getting all the names are they're not
right
Torrey pines
Torrey pines now those are all later
Chicago
Chicago the
Chicago times
Harold race first
in the U.S. 1895
Wow among six motorized
vehicles four cars and two
motorcycles or two was one
by Frank Duria's motorized
wagon
and it was quite a big
we're talking like you know wagon
wheel vehicles like
wooden wheel like horseless care
right on 20 they're riding on 30s
you know what I mean I always heard
that the first race happened when the
second car was built you know
dang dude that's right
it's kind of crazy though this this
thing had prices of $5,000
whoa
in 1895 so it's
approximately 189,000
yeah today's
moneys
all to boost newspaper sales
so it's all about sponsorship even from
the first days there you go
that's it and that's all folks
thanks for listening we
appreciate it very much
and we'll see you next time
later
bye-bye
you
About this episode
Lando Norris clinched the number one spot in a thrilling season finale, prompting discussions about his performance and the dynamics within McLaren. The hosts reflect on their favorite automotive events, including upcoming Radwood shows, and share personal stories about career risks and automotive passions. They also delve into the world of Formula 1, analyzing driver performances, team dynamics, and the implications of new regulations. With a mix of humor and insight, the episode captures the essence of automotive enthusiasm and the ever-evolving landscape of motorsport.
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