NHRA is the big organization that runs and organizes drag racing in the U.S. When they announce the schedule, it’s basically the official list of races for the year.
Joe Costello is the guest in this segment. He’s a motorsports voice/announcer and he’s sharing his thoughts on the upcoming NHRA season schedule.
Brand
Stampede Speed
Stampede Speed is the name of the team or group identity Joe Costello is associated with. It’s mentioned like a brand name in the drag racing world.
Term
motorplex colors
“Motorplex colors” refers to the livery/color scheme associated with Motorplex—used here as shorthand for the visual identity on a car or team. In motorsports, colors and branding help fans recognize who’s competing.
Topic
year of force 2027
“Year of Force 2027” sounds like a special theme or campaign name for the 2027 NHRA season. It’s how the organizers are branding that year’s events.
“Four wide” means four cars race at the same time in parallel lanes. It’s a special event format that’s more chaotic and exciting than the usual two-car races.
“Funny Cars” are a type of drag race car. They look like regular cars from the outside, but they’re built specifically to launch hard and run extremely fast in a straight line.
Place
Yorba Linda shop
This is the team’s workshop in Yorba Linda, California. They use it to get the cars ready and then move them to races.
“Winter Nationals” is a drag-racing event that happens early in the year. They’re talking about how the team can move their cars between big races efficiently.
“World Finals” is a named championship-style drag-racing event that serves as a season-ending culmination. The hosts are placing the Force team’s car logistics and appearances in the context of the full season arc.
The “Superman Funny Car” is a themed Funny Car entry—i.e., a drag-racing Funny Car with branding and livery inspired by Superman. In drag racing, these themed cars are often tied to a specific driver/team and become recognizable to fans beyond just the car’s performance.
Term
brute force car
“Brute Force” is the name/theme of a particular drag-racing Funny Car. It’s a recognizable entry, not just a generic description.
The Proton Persona is a small family car (a sedan) made by Proton. It’s meant for normal daily use like commuting and errands. People might mention it in a podcast when talking about Proton’s regular, everyday cars.
Qualifying is the session where racers run to set starting positions or determine who advances. The host contrasts it with the event format where Saturday is treated as “your race,” implying a more direct path to competition.
“Rating” here likely refers to how racers are ranked or seeded based on qualifying results. In drag racing, that ranking can affect matchups and who gets the best lanes or positions.
“Test runs” are practice passes where teams dial in the car or bike setup before the official competition. In drag racing, these sessions help with traction, gearing, tire choice, and overall tune so the Saturday race goes smoothly.
It’s basically the number of cars and bikes that actually enter the races. If there aren’t many entries, it can make the whole series harder to sustain financially.
A “short field” means fewer racers show up than normal. When that happens, it’s usually because it’s too expensive or too hard for teams to make the event.
A weight break is a rule that lets older cars or bikes be a little lighter than the newest ones. The goal is to make racing fairer so older machines can still compete.
Bodywork kits are aftermarket parts that cover the bike—like panels and fairings. They can make the bike look right for racing and sometimes help it cut through air better.
“Pro stock motorcycle” means a top-level drag-racing motorcycle class. These bikes are built and tuned to go as fast as possible, so the rider has to be very precise to control them.
To be tucked means the rider pulls their body in close to the bike to reduce frontal area. In racing, a tuck is used to lower aerodynamic drag, helping the bike maintain higher speed.
Shift points are the moments you decide to change gears. In fast racing, you have to shift at the right time so the engine stays in its strongest power range.
Rider position is where the rider places their body on the bike—like tucking in or sitting more upright. That changes how air flows around the bike, which can affect speed and control.
Piston rings are small metal bands on the piston inside the engine. They help seal the combustion gases and manage oil. If they rub too much on the cylinder wall, they create extra friction and wear.
Cylinder walls are the inner surfaces of the engine block where the pistons move up and down. Friction between piston rings and cylinder walls can accelerate wear and contribute to power loss over time.
Total Seal is a company that makes piston rings for engines. They claim their ring designs reduce friction and wear so the engine lasts longer and can make better power.
A diesel particulate filter is an emissions part that traps soot from a diesel engine’s exhaust. “OEM” means it’s the original factory-style part, and the replacement needs to match the vehicle’s setup.
A diesel oxidation catalyst is an emissions device that helps clean up exhaust gases. It works by using chemical reactions to reduce certain pollutants before they leave the tailpipe.
DPFX fit is a brand that sells replacement emissions parts for diesel trucks. They’re advertising filters and catalysts that are meant to fit like the original equipment.
An “OEM replacement” is an aftermarket part meant to work like the original factory part. With emissions parts, the fit has to be right so the car can run and pass emissions properly.
This is a website tool that helps you find the correct replacement part for your specific vehicle. It’s meant to prevent you from buying the wrong filter or catalyst.
Remanufactured parts are rebuilt using old parts (cores) and brought back to working condition. The ad is saying their product is new, not rebuilt from a used core.
Redline Oil is a brand of engine oil. The ad is saying it’s made for performance driving and that it works well based on the speaker’s experience.
Term
HRA drag racing pro cycle motorcycle
They’re talking about a motorcycle drag-racing category that’s a stepping stone toward the pro level. It matters because it shapes who you race and how the competition is organized.
In drag racing, the water box is where they spray water on the track before the run. The goal is to make the surface grip better so the bike can launch more effectively.
A call out format is a race setup where one rider can challenge another instead of everyone just being paired randomly. It affects how you think about who you want to race and when.
Friday testing refers to the practice/track time before the main event where teams evaluate changes to the motorcycle’s setup. The goal is to improve performance and sometimes to send a message to potential callout opponents by showing strong early results.
LIVE
This is WFO radio.
Hello and welcome to Wednesday of a nice little off week.
I'm Slice the Drag.
I'm one of your hosts, Elon Warner, and then we're joined by...
Abby Warner Woodward.
You kind of pointed the wrong direction.
What? So on my screen, this is pointing at you.
Oh, okay.
Well, I guess people in the comments will have to let me know
because on my screen, it looks like you're pointing
off into the abyss.
All right. Well, that's not what we wanted to do.
Like the show, share the show by the merch.
Summer time, perfect time to get a t-shirt, hat, any of the merch stuff.
So very excited.
We went from having Abby and I talking about what are we going
to kind of talk about on the show to we have two guests.
Yes.
Matt Smith at about 1215 Eastern and then the great chase van
Zant, birthday boy, and the bottom half of the show to talk about
the Getrex Pro-Stock motorcycle all-star call-out in Sonoma
in a couple of weeks.
What?
I know which I love this format.
They're just bringing those guys in just for the all-star call-out
race. Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like that makes it feel even more like a bigger deal than it
actually is.
And I was reminded Richard Gadsden mentioned it in his like post-race
interview.
It's their biggest payout of the year aside unless you like win the
championship.
But as far as a single event, single race payout, it's their
biggest one.
So they want to win it bad.
All right.
So we have that coming up.
But more importantly, moments ago, the NHRA dropped the 2027
first four.
Yes.
And we're now joined by the great Joe Costello, the voice of the
Stampede Speed wearing the motorplex colors come out of the
gate to discuss going back old school for the year of force 2027
starting in his home track.
We're going to go Pomona in February, Phoenix in February,
Gator Nationals on a traditional weekend in March and then four
wide.
Joe, your thoughts go for Joe.
Okay.
This is tough because I do.
Yes, this is great.
I love it guys.
This is going to be awesome.
I'm super excited.
John fours.
Yes.
But how does this affect me and project Pontiac racing at the
Southeastern division, Orlando, baby.
It really is all about you, Joe.
It is.
I mean, we're all governed by our own self interest.
Yes.
And so right now, you know, there's multiple factors.
The Gator Nationals, what I'm about to say is going to sound like
blasphemy guys.
Hasn't been fun for me the way it was fun previously since it has
been the first race.
I didn't go this past year, but the couple of previous years too
much going on for the first race, a blur, almost not enjoyable,
but a great story for the NHRA sold out.
But no activity in January or February at all.
We have to wait till March to start.
So there's many pros going back to the traditional system, Pomona,
Arizona, comeback East, East Coast opener.
Gainesville is going to be a sold out crowd.
It's going to be one of the biggest events period.
So that's all good.
We will have done our media day.
We will have done all the photos.
We have done all that stuff prior to the Gator Nationals and it
will become a little less just intrusive into my fun.
But at the same time, how is this going to affect Project Pontiac?
Inevitably, I just feel that like Cody Division two director is
like Costello is going to be in Arizona.
That's when we're doing Orlando.
Costello is going to be, yeah, that's when we're doing.
But isn't the baby Gators always the week before Gainesville?
It was until this most recent year when it was the week after.
So I just don't know.
But in the grand scheme of things, this is the call that they've
made and a lot of people wanted racing in February.
A lot of people wanted racing in February.
Let's make sure we get the WFO Nation.
Let's get a petition started at petition.org to make sure that
the baby Gators is an open weekend.
So Joe can participate.
Well, not just that, but Orlando speed world.
Like that's the easiest race. Like I need to be able to race guys.
Like Costello built a race car.
Let's just write the schedule so that he never gets to race.
I'm sure that's exactly how that's how they get to Joe is that just.
But yeah, I mean, I'm also excited about starting through
International's because Abby and I were talking about it.
It was weird.
It was very weird.
In April.
Nothing winter about April.
No, no, but I secretly did kind of like having February to my
own devices a little bit.
Yeah, Adam and I went to New Zealand this February.
It's cutting into Abby Warner Woodward's international travel
schedule.
We talked about doing an international trip in February again.
And I'm like, well, I guess life's the drag is so lucrative.
It's cutting into our international.
I guess we should start.
We're going to look at January instead.
So let's put ourselves personally aside.
Let's just put it all aside.
Like how does it affect me?
Like, oh, I love going to Maryland.
Why?
Because I can go into DC and I can enjoy a wonderful meal before
and after the race.
Oh, but what does that got to do with the race?
Well, they could do the same thing.
But I think that's what I'm saying.
Getting started.
Earlier.
I think is good for everybody involved.
But there's, there's a lot of layers to this.
Even once upon a time,
NHRA had a 24 race schedule.
And I remember Bobby Bennett advocating for the days of.
I believe he wants 15.
He might want 18.
Like though less is more, let's go back to 10 events.
And then every event will have like 30 cars.
I'm against that.
That to me makes it.
Barely a professional motorsport.
I like the idea of maybe more events, more events.
You know, we've got these smaller events.
Why can't we go back to 22?
Why can't we go back to.
So there's a lot of things that open potentially by starting
earlier and the California fans,
they've been revolting against this.
I've gotten 10 text messages this morning of happy people.
Sure.
The tradition is back.
And I like, I like that.
I like, you know, getting everybody on the West coast.
And then they kind of march East.
Which makes some sense because then they're, you know,
they're going to California for two weeks.
Or, you know, on the West coast for two weeks,
then they come back to Brownsburg.
Fast majority can get situated.
Then they go.
East to Gainesville and, you know,
then they can opt whether they want to go up to Charlotte or leave
some things to me.
I like spreading the schedule out a little bit.
I think that gives us some gaps to talk about more opportunities about
the drivers.
Maybe do some specialty events.
I, I hesitate to go with more events.
Unless we're going to hold our current events more accountable to
be professional events.
Like motorplex.
Summit Motor Sports Park.
The NHRA owned facilities to a certain extent, you know,
Raul at South Georgia Motor Sports Park.
Royce in Maryland.
I'm excited to see what they're doing at Rockingham and in Michigan.
But the standard is not the standard.
Across the board for an entry national events both.
Forward facing for fans and backwards facing for the people that
make the sport run.
So before we do more events.
Let's up our game to make sure the fan experience is awesome for everybody.
I don't disagree with that.
I'd love to hear you call out the people who deserve it though.
And I, I also agree.
Like this, we've had so much room to let like the Maddie Gordon run
caps.
When breathe.
Like.
That's Sadie Glenn.
Sadie's done two weeks of media.
Exactly.
And I think that's so fun that we're,
they have this opportunity to kind of just relish in this for a little bit
before we're just immediately on to the next thing.
And so having a little bit of a gap in the schedule.
Now, I don't, we'll see how we like the three week gap.
Like later this season.
I don't think I'm going to like that personally.
I think that's going to feel a little too much,
but one off weekend, two off weekends.
I think.
Allows everyone to get.
Recharged allows us to properly celebrate event winners.
And we're not just rushing off from one race to the next.
Agreed. And then, you know,
Monica's got a great point spreads it out a little bit, but I do.
I also love starting the internationals for the year of force
in forces backyard.
Yes.
That's me also makes so much sense.
You know, they talked in the release, they talked about,
they're going to announce some things regarding the year of force.
I know that I believe we're going to see some vintage force funny cars.
You know, which makes it easy for them to get them from the Yorba Linda shop
to the winter nationals.
Same deal for winter nationals and world finals.
And then obviously they have a museum in Brownsburg.
So there'll be a presence at Indy.
And honestly, if for me, the year of force will be made.
If I can see the Superman funny car in person one more time.
Okay.
That's again, bringing it all like to me.
You know, the brute force car is awesome.
But the Superman car.
To me is that's really where force took his legend to the next level.
Is he became Superman and after that car, you know,
defeated Bob van der Graf Jr.
It just that became his persona.
Yeah.
And we're still thinking about it and the quarter of a million dollars.
Yeah, still, still upset.
It is crew chief for just not doing what they needed to be needed to do.
It's like 10 million dollars in today's today's money.
Yeah.
The year of force angle, I think drives it home.
Yeah, that's that's the deal.
We want a big deal.
You want big press out there in Southern California native sun.
If we can't make a wave.
Out there with this John force, because he is,
and you know better than anyone, Elon, having done that deal.
We all love John in NHRA,
but Southern California loves the force family.
They know they're known entities and that,
that wave there'll be something that people can ride.
Yeah.
And it'll be curious, you know, again, plans are being made.
I know there's the NHRA plans.
There's the John force racing plans.
There are, you know, peak plans are being formulated, you know,
so there's all these people that want to have their involvement.
And so getting that all to line up to where we're not stepping on.
Everyone's toes and like, you know, adequately honoring this guy.
And it's going to be.
I am very curious to see how tracks on our force.
Right.
You know, you didn't get a retirement tour, but what, you know,
what will the motorplex do?
What will some motor sports park do?
What will Seattle, what will brainer?
I mean, places where he dominated, you know,
will this be the opportunity to start naming more grandstands after
and will this be more John force ways?
Will this be, you know, whatever?
But I think that's going to be really a good opportunity for us to
celebrate a guy that really has given so much to the sport.
Kudos to NHRA for getting this out early.
Yeah.
Like this is early.
This is an early announcement.
We haven't hit the Western swing.
Why?
So people can really just like what's happening right now organically.
I didn't know this was going to happen.
I, you know, kind of float through life just hoping that I can make it to the next day.
And when you texted me 20, 27 schedule, I was like, Oh, NHRA.com.
And it's like, Oh, okay, this is out.
And it causes the imagination to start sparking.
Like, I don't know.
Could we see a Jay Leno type person come out and want to be a part of John
force's final ride, you know, like all of the different things.
People that know John force that we don't even know they think about John
force, but they admire his career.
This is their opportunity to come out and celebrate his career.
You know, he'll be around, but this is the opportunity.
I don't want to say the final time.
I don't say definitive words like that, but this is when it's supposed to
happen.
What can our imaginations conjure?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we're all looking forward to it and we'll all be geared up for it.
And we're very excited to see that news and get people talking about it.
But, um, Joe, I know you got some things going on.
We're going to let you go.
Quick note for, for you.
Quick note.
The WFO group on Facebook are receiving their 1000 round win club
collectibles in the mail and the photographs are being posted.
Yes.
And people are very excited that they have gone out.
I've received a bunch of text messages are patriots and people that
we've activated behind the scenes.
They kind of look like this.
I don't know if you can see, but they kind of come with like a nice little
1000 round win sticker on them.
They're bubble wrap for protection.
They got a nice little thank you notes.
Yeah.
They are shipping daily.
They're shipping up daily.
So we definitely appreciate everybody grabbing up those things.
Got it.
All right, guys.
I see Matt Smith is down.
You're so lucky.
Ask him about Sadie.
You know, he, Sadie drove Matt's car a bunch of times.
Yeah.
Good deal.
All right, guys.
I mean, it just Matt Smith racing just surrounded by winners at every level.
Exactly.
Every level.
And we're going to, we're going to get into that.
And we're excited to have Matt back.
So Joe, thank you very much.
And now without further ado, we're going to bring on Matt Smith.
And Abby sent me a text before we had you on that.
First of all, Matt, welcome.
Yes.
Welcome.
And Abby sent me texts and it's like, so is Matt driving or is Joey
riding?
And I was like, Matt is back, baby.
So we are super pumped.
How are you feeling?
Obviously pretty good.
But then how excited are you to get back on that motorcycle?
I'm excited.
I mean, it's just, I'm still waiting.
We've talked to the doctor.
I'm still waiting to get my physical hands on the note from the doctor.
The doctor, everything's good.
But just getting my hands on the note.
I'm just waiting for that so I can send that to Josh.
And Dr. surface at NHRA.
But all in all, I think I feel good.
I just, Joey's still going to be there working on the car.
And I'm going to make the first pass.
And if I don't feel good on the bike, then I'll stick them on there.
But the goal is for Matt Smith to race.
Matt Smith has won the shootout the last two years.
And I want to try to do a three-peat.
You know, I just, that's, that's my goal right now.
I feel like I don't know if you ever saw this clip about Tom Cruise talking
about wanting to do stunts in movies.
And he wanted to do this crazy stunt where he's climbing a building
and the stunt director was like, no, you can't do that.
And he's like, you know what I did?
I got a new stunt director.
But I think if your first doctor comes back and is like, well,
I'm not really sure.
Second opinion time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah.
The doctors gave me the, the okay.
He's just getting a doctor or his secretary to write up the letter
and him to sign off on it.
You know, so we just told me how to have it by Friday.
And that's the goal right now.
So one thing Abby and I were talking about was when Joey's on the bike,
what changes on the bike?
Cause you all are different heights and stuff to another.
Is it pedal placement?
Is it like the seat?
Like without giving a secret sauce, like what?
Like if you decide to go from you to Joe, you're Joey to you.
Are there physical things that have to change on the bike?
There really wasn't.
I mean, okay.
Joey's a good enough rider that he just came right in and adapted to
the way my bike was.
We had to make one little Willie Bar change for him.
That was it.
So, but besides that handlebars, foot pegs, everything,
I think there's four pounds difference in us.
So it all worked out really good.
And, you know, like I said, he's, he's still going to be there.
So if I need him, he's going to, he's going to jump on it,
but I hope I can do it.
And I think I can and we'll find out how much discussion has there been
on picking strategy.
I think you have the third, third pick.
I think is it Gage, Richard, you?
It's Gage, Richard, me.
I could get no picks, you know, Gage or Richard might call me out.
They did that two years ago and, you know, I was the number two pick.
Gage was the number one pick.
And, you know, he got to watch the rest of the race, you know,
from the sidelines, you know, after first round.
So I think ultimately I think you've earned the spots of 123 and four.
And ultimately those are the four best bikes that's been out there for the last year.
And ultimately I don't think one of those bikes wants to pick one of them first round.
For the simple fact, you want a little bit easier pick first round because you want to be able to,
if you do have a little slip up, a little mistake or whatever, you still possibly can get by.
You make a little mistake on one of the top three bikes or top four bikes.
You're going home.
Yeah.
So you have a way better shot if you pick one at the bottom four.
And, you know, that would be our strategy, you know, which I see if it was me,
I think Vanson Hines is going to pick, you know, Chase and Steve Johnson.
And then now put MSR against MSR.
So we will automatically eliminate two bikes of MSR first round.
That's what I see them doing.
They could not do that.
We could have a possibility to have three bikes, you know, if they pick us, which will be great.
Right.
Or we could have four bikes win first round.
So I'm all game for it.
It's just numbers.
And, you know, they have the cards, but I can promise you we have ace up our sleeve, whatever they do.
Perfect.
I love this format for you guys.
I know head and West is expensive for everybody.
But just how, how much, how better it's better for you to just be able to go out there and just concentrate on what your biggest payout of the year, isn't it?
Versus qualifying and then also rating like this is this is your race.
Yeah, you're going to get some test runs on Friday and then you go right into it on Saturday.
You like that?
Yeah.
And I, you know, I think you commented on the, on the little post that was out there, people going, why is the bike's not out here?
Why are they calling all across there for, you know, just to shoot out?
Well, this is where our shootouts always been since it left Indy.
And, you know, back from the record deal day to, to everything has been there in Mickey Thompson deal.
So ultimately that's where Get Tricks wanted it at.
And I think is doing them right by keeping the race at that track because that's where they wanted it.
And ultimately, I think the fans get a better, better shot because they got the eight best bikes in the world out there to go to go run their own race on Saturday.
Last year, we only had eight bikes show up at Seattle and we had four more people come in from California to run that race.
We only had 12 bikes.
So just the money cost of hauling across country is really expensive.
And everybody knows that our whole sport professionally is struggling with car counts, bike counts and everything just because things cost so much.
And, you know, ultimately, I think, you know, not saying anything bad, but ultimately I think in HRA, they need to get the purses up to get people to be able to afford this.
Because if you don't have the big sponsors, you just can't do it.
And you don't see NASCAR having short fields.
You know, it just doesn't happen.
They pay their guys good.
And ultimately we are the top of the line drag racers.
I mean, not throwing no pun on anybody, but we're supposed to be better than every other drag racing organization out there.
So they need to pay their drivers where they'll show up and make our sport better.
And I think they can do that.
I think it's just they need their market of people to do a little bit more work and find some some category sponsors and stuff like that and get our purses up.
And I think you'll see back the full cars, full bikes at every race, you know, through the whole season.
Yeah.
And then just the bike class mat from top to bottom.
You know, you talk about either the top four bikes, you know, you know, are the best four bikes, but really even going 10 deep.
Everybody, I mean, if you get some breaks, if things go your way, which is just the sport by definition, you know, it's pretty healthy to a certain degree.
You'd like to have more, but the competitors you've got young people coming up.
You know, how do you see, you know, bikes five years from now?
He's thinking about it.
I put him on the spot.
You did.
No, I did.
Did I lose you a little bit?
Yeah, a little bit.
I heard a lot of it, but you were going in and out.
Oh, sorry.
But anyway, on that.
Go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Just the kind of that you got a lot of talent and pro-cycle motorcycle right now.
Where do you see it in five years as far as, you know, assuming we can get the purse money up a little bit, but like in five years, you know, where do you see motorcycles right now?
I think they're, I think our class can come back pretty healthy.
I think we have to, I think our tech department needs to do a really good job of getting rules under control, getting, getting stuff to where it doesn't cost so much for other people to come into our sport.
We need to work on vintage stuff back into our sport, just like pro-mod.
Pro-mod has a weight break for older bodies to let the older cars come back in.
There's a lot of older Buells out there.
There's a lot of older Suzuki's that's not aerodynamic is what we are.
We need to start giving them guys weight breaks so they'll come in and run with us.
Everybody can't afford the top of the line v-twin bodywork, you know, the top of the line and how boosts the bodywork, you know, those are 25 grand bodywork kits.
People's got bikes and all.
Let's give them a weight break.
Let's give the older stuff weight breaks so we can get more people in.
I mean, I don't think they're going to come in and kick our butts, but if they do, then okay, then, then, then adjust from there.
But let's give these guys and girls, you know, more option to come in and run with us because you have 10 good bikes right now.
And that only six spots to qualify.
And most time we don't have enough bikes, you know, to have a bump.
But I think if we get, if the tech department does their job and we create some new rules and help our whole class out, I think our class can grow.
And I think, man, I remember, I remember there used to be 30 bikes, 36 bikes showing up at Gainesville.
I mean, we used to have full fields all the time.
Everything's just gotten more expensive.
That's just how it is everywhere.
But the organization needs to work better at making it where the cost is not so bad for the racers to keep them coming back because that's ultimately that's what we got to do.
We got to help the racers out with cost wise.
Do you think looking at how strong Angie's bike has been early this season that you have and your bike is so strong that this is probably the best one to punch for you and Angie this early in the season?
Yeah, I mean, I think we have two strong bikes.
I think John on our camp and John Hall on our camp.
If John Hall comes and rides the bike like John Hall should, he's got just faster bike as me and Angie.
Gianna showed if all the stars line up and she rides the bike right and I do my job tuning, it showed that she's got a 205 mile an hour bike.
So ultimately, I think we have four good bikes in our camp.
It's just if everybody's on the same page from rider to tune up to do it.
A pro stock motorcycle bike is the hardest bike or the hardest thing to drive out there.
I don't care what anybody says from Top Fuel, the funny car, the pro stock mod.
It is the hardest.
One person that has driven everything, go ask him.
Alex Laughlin will tell you that that's the hardest thing he's ever done in his life is try to get his license on a pro stock motorcycle.
You have to do so much.
The rider is, I'm not going to say he's 60% of the bike, but the rider is 40% of the bike and what that rider does from getting tucked,
being more aerodynamic, to having to hit the shift points five times going on a racetrack, to keeping the bike straight.
We're in the air all the time.
So if you lean in the bike and all that, that takes aerodynamics away.
Pro stock car, all these other ones, the bodywork is your aerodynamics.
So it doesn't never change, but your rider position and riding just change the aerodynamics.
So it's a huge factor.
And that's where I feel like our class is the hardest thing to ride and the hardest thing to do.
And I'm proud that we've done that.
And I'm just, you know, we just got to get more people back in our class.
How do you as a group or do you as a group talk about that, like with Gianna and John Hall and Angie and yourself?
Like as far as, okay, we have this bike.
Here's techniques.
Do you do video reviews?
Do you have team meetings or is it just kind of, hey, we need to be better?
Like how do you communicate that to your people?
Well, there's somebody on our team, everyone that videotapes from the back of the bike.
And it shows when that bike launches, we play in slow motion.
If the rider leaves with the bike, you know, two of our riders don't surge, two of us do surge.
And we show all that.
Not only that, I bring them in, they call it the principal's office.
If they come in and we have to look at the computer and I'm like, look, you were 500 this early on the shift light in first gear and second gear.
That knocks off two or three hundreds on the run or they didn't hold it wide open or they, they coming off the throttle early or anything like that.
And I show them, I'm like, look, this is all things that you're messing up that you need to focus on and do a better job.
There's more to just cutting the light, you know, that's what the outside world see that the outside world doesn't see the race pack, the shift in and all that stuff on there.
If they held it wide open, that's what they don't see.
So a lot of times people, you know, think that all the bike didn't shift.
Well, no, the rider missed the button because I have a shift sensor on there and they didn't hit the button.
So ultimately it comes down to the rider, the majority of time that makes mistakes.
Last year I was learning the fuel and I was behind on tune up, but we've got a really good handle on this year and I think we have four really, really good bikes that could win at any time.
How did you, I mean, obviously in a perfect role, you want to be on your bike, but how was it taking a step back off the bike having Joey on and just managing the four bikes without having to worry about getting into the rider mindset.
Throughout race day.
Yeah, I love, I love being an owner. I love being a crew chief.
I've done everything there is to do out here.
I'm to that point that if Denzo went away and Denzo told me to step off the bike and put somebody else on the bike, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
That's not saying I wouldn't ride every now and then I would come out and run a race here there or whatever, but ultimately I won't, I won't young new talent out here.
I want to help younger people. I want to help people that, that ultimately that want to win, you know, and it does me a lot of good to see one of my bikes win and may not be on it.
I was super proud of last year when John won two races. I was super proud this year when Angie won the race.
I really want to get John a win. You know, we've worked really hard and she's been close, but it just, everything hasn't lined up for her to get a win yet.
And that's my goal. Even last week, you know, at Norwalk, Joey Redley by 2000, if he would have been 22 on the tree or 23 on the tree, he'd have won that round.
I've been in the finals and I had a chance to win in the race, you know, so ultimately I want people on our team to win.
There's a lot of things I can help Joey with that I saw that I can make him a better rider by coaching and doing some little stuff and teaching him some stuff.
You know, even as good as riders he is, I still saw things that would make him better. And that's what I want to do.
I feel like even though I'm not the oldest person out there, Steve Johnson's the oldest rider out there, I'm probably next to him.
And I feel like I'm a veteran and I feel like I can help a lot of people get better at what they do and make new people come into our sport.
As far as finding new talent, where do you look? And I don't want to get into specifics because you probably have a hit list of like, hey, is it like divisional levels?
Is it grudge racing or kind of how does that universe, like the feeder system to potentially pro-cycle motorcycle?
You know, sometimes it's kind of hard because a pro-stop bike is so different because it's a 10-inch tire and it's a willy-barb.
You see all these grudge bike people, they race and they race with no willy-bars.
And there's a big difference between riding a bar bike and not a bar bike.
I know Gage came in and adapted really quick, you know, but he still rode for Gary Stover and Greg Underdahl for, you know, the 67 races.
He just didn't come jump on that bike and was good right off the bat. He never went around on that bike, you know.
So ultimately, you know, Richard, he's ran pro-mod bikes and he's ran more bikes before, so he was good when he came in.
But, you know, I think that the grudge world, the XDA world where people are over there running, people out of the 460 class, that's a good platform to bring people out of.
The biggest thing is I just, I would like to see people come out and try it on their own dime.
And if they are successful or you see a talent, I think one of the greatest young talents that we got out there right now is probably Clayton Howie.
I saw him come out this year and he's done a wonderful job, you know.
And I think he's somebody that if he could pick a sponsor up and he could race full time and run really good and win races, you know.
So ultimately, I think we have some good people out there. We got good people that need help.
And those are the people that I think that, you know, that our future is coming up.
Well, Matt, we cannot be more excited to have you back out there.
Hopefully it all goes well, but love appreciates you jumping on today, taking some time and we are very excited to see this pro stock motorcycle race in Sonoma.
Well, thank you. I appreciate it. And I'll answer one of the comments on there about somebody said, would you run the whole season?
You know, if they are class can't literally we can't the everybody out there can't afford to run the 20 race season.
You saw pro stock car go away from it for a couple years, you know, to try to make their class back healthier.
And now they're back to full season and now they're not having full fields.
So a full season is really hard.
And it might be to the point in my opinion that NHRA needs to cut a few races out.
We probably don't need 20 races.
Yes, we all want to race as much as we can, but to make the sport healthier and to get more people out.
It might be that we need to cut our season back a little bit to to help out everybody because ultimately right now I don't think it's healthy enough to have two races at one track in a year.
Because now now you've you're letting people choose between which race they want to go to and some will pick this one, some pick that one.
Well, then it makes the race look bad because you only have 40% show this race and only 50% show this race.
So I'd much rather have one race, a big race and one time a year per track.
Perfect.
All right, Matt.
Thank you so much.
Look forward to seeing you here in a couple of weeks and tell Angel we said hello.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on.
Sure.
All right.
Let's let's pay some bills.
Yes.
Because we've got the great Chase Van Zant coming up here shortly and we want to dive into a couple other things.
How cool is it to just, you know, Matt looks good.
Yes, he does.
And he's got some hot sports opinions, which we can also dive into.
But we'll go ahead and pay some bills here real quick.
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And we're back. Uh, want to thank Matt Smith for, uh, for joining us and he also, I agree with the pits podcast.
He nailed it with Clayton Howley being a kind of rising star in the pro cycle motorcycle ranks.
First of all, he's got a great look. Yes. I love his vibe and just his attitude.
And I think he could be, you know, like all these guys, I think everybody could get better with sponsors and things like that.
But, um, if you want to get into an HRA drag racing pro cycle motorcycle is a great entry point because of the personality, how the class interacts with each other.
And just the, um, competition level, they help each other out a lot behind the scenes. So they've pretty much all worked with each other in some capacity at some level until they hit the water box.
I feel like they are all very supportive. Yes. But the minute they hit the water box, it's whether your teammates, not teammates, it's every man and woman for themselves.
But it's a, it's a great day today. We're going to double up with pro stock motorcycle guys. We're going to bring on our second pro stock motorcycle guest.
The birthday boy chase van Zant. How are you doing my friend? Hey, I'm good. How are you guys? We're doing good. Thanks. Thanks for joining us.
Like we told, uh, Matt and Joe earlier, we kind of woke up this morning. We're kind of talking about the show and it's always weird when you have a couple of weeks, kind of get behind.
And then we're like, what are we going to do for the show? And then I was like, God dang it. I saw the get rex post like motorcycle deal. And I was like, let me reach out to these guys and just see if they can take some time.
So thanks for, with very short notice. Yeah, I think it's cool that you guys are going to Sonoma solely focused on the big money race. Yes. How do you feel about kind of going out there just to race for a huge paycheck?
Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's great. I might be a little biased. I love Sonoma. I love the West Coast races. I think it's just, you know, for an Iowa boy, like the scenery out there is pretty hard to beat the weather is hard to beat.
So I just love those tracks. I love the people out there. And it seems like the motorcycles are received really well at those tracks too. It seems like people really appreciate us being there.
So really enjoy the fans and all that. But, you know, I at first I was a little bit bummed, like we all want to race as much as we possibly can, you know, we would race every weekend, I think, if we could.
But, you know, it is cool that it feels like we get a little bit more focus on on just the the call out show where as sometimes not that it gets drowned out in the, you know, the weekend, but it's like there are times where we've had to make decisions on like, OK, what are we going to prioritize here?
You know, if things aren't going our way or we're trying something with the bike, it's like, well, you know, it is a qualifying run at the same time. So it's like, where does our priority lay?
Well, this week or this coming weekend with the call out, it's like, it's a huge priority and there's a lot of money on the line. So, you know, going out there for just that is a huge thank you to NHRA, obviously, for making that happen.
And Lisa Denzo, that's been that's been huge getting us out there. So without their help, it wouldn't have happened, you know, obviously in this way and at that track. So really special and really cool to be at Sonoma.
I'm going to be.
No, you go.
No, I was just going to say the call out format. Do you do you feel like, you know, you're you ready for Gage or Richard or Matt, you know, to potentially call you out? Or, you know, do you go into it with the mindset of, Hey, I want to really kick butt and testing on Friday to give these guys a moment of pause.
They're like, Oh man, Chase is running really good. Maybe I should focus on somebody else.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I've, you know, unfortunately, I've only ever really raced this thing from the bottom. You know, I've never, never had the opportunity to call somebody out. But, you know, for me, it's the one year I was coming off a win.
And I think Friday night, I was provisional number one qualifier. So it was like, we were running really good. And I think I ended up going out first round of the call out. So it's like, you just never know with these eight bikes, they're, they're all so good.
And everybody, you know, I think everybody going in, you know, obviously, I think there are four bikes right now that have set them set themselves apart a little bit.
But at the same time, you, you as a competitor, you have to look back and be like, Oh yeah, I've beaten everybody on this list, you know, and they can be beaten at any time. So for me, that's kind of my mindset. And, you know, as far as like the first round call out, you know, it is a big deal.
It kind of sets you up for the rest of the day, obviously. But for me, it's like, if I want to win, I know I'm going to have to be all of these guys, you know, or be prepared to be all of these guys. And from the competitor standpoint, it's like, that's all you can ask for is the opportunity to get called out and win.
Like that's, that's the cool thing about this format is like, you get to, you get the ultimate chance to talk smack through all that stuff. And it's even encouraged. And then either, you know, in my case, probably be the upset since I'm racing from the bottom.
But like, that's just, that's what you, that's all you could ask for as a competitor.
And I feel like you're, you're a confident guy, but you don't come across as like a cocky guy. But on an event like this, do you kind of take a chance? Like if you're in, you know, you guys all group up to just kind of maybe give Richard Gadson a little bit more of a stare or, you know, kind of gauge like, hey, remember Seattle, think about it.
To just have fun with it. Is that kind of, you know, you mentioned they'd like to have the back and forth, but do you just kind of say, I might as well just shoot my shot and have fun with this?
Yeah, yeah, there is definitely, you know, a part of that. For me, it's always tough. Like I do like throwing little jabs in there every once in a while. I'm not one that like, I can't necessarily talk like crap to somebody like profusely.
So, you know, like it's just not, it doesn't, it never works out good for me. You know, like, I really do enjoy just kind of staying quiet. And, you know, I think there is a level of that too, that it kind of does get in the other person's head, because I think that's, you know, a lot of times when people are kind of john at you or whatever, and they want to get a rise out of you, like as soon as you respond, like, that's what they wanted, you know, you obviously give them what they wanted.
And I think one thing that has always worked for me is just like, I enjoy having fun, like I don't really take myself too seriously, even on the starting line, you know, so for me, like, I really enjoyed the opportunity to get to race with these guys, I do believe that I can win this deal.
And I think I can beat any one of them sitting on the starting line. But that being said, like, I have a lot of respect for them. And as much as you know, I may throw in a jab at the top end or something like that.
But I do like staying quiet, because it just, you know, like I said, it can get a rise out of them ultimately, because they aren't getting what they want. And, yeah, it just leaves a level of uncertainty, I think, in their mind of where I'm at.
And, you know, I think that's something I've done a decent job of in my career is just staying somewhat level headed, not getting too hot or too low. And, you know, sometimes things happen and you get pretty hot at the top end.
And, you know, you maybe say something you, you look back and you regret, but it's, it's tough. It's raw emotion at the top end. You just went 200 miles an hour. And, you know, you're expected to say something in a very short amount of time.
And it's like, you know, the tensions are fairly high, you know, so I'm not saying I've never, like, never gotten wound up or anything like that. I think if you've been down there, you've probably seen me wound up.
But I think overall, I take a pretty mellow approach to the racing in general. And I think I carry that over into the call-out, too.
I view you as a complete, like, silent assassin. Like...
Yeah, that's the goal. It doesn't always happen, but that is the goal.
But then also, like, I mean, when you won your first race and ended Gage's historic streak, he said that if anyone had to end it, he was happy it was you.
And I just feel like you're one of those guys that, like, no one wants to lose, but if they have to lose to someone, they're always okay with it being, like, you.
Is that something that you've, like, kind of cultivated, like, you've done intentionally, like, kind of just being, like, one of the more level-headed, like, really good guys in the class?
Yeah, I mean, I don't, you know, I don't think, like, I don't know. You know, I think some of that was, like, me and Gage had a little bit of a relationship before.
Before we got to pro-stock, and same with Richard. I mean, me and Richard raced together for a while.
But, you know, I think, like, to answer your question, I think that goes a little bit, like, outside of racing, you know.
I think, like, like I said earlier, I have a ton of respect for anybody that throws their leg over one of these things and comes out and competes, you know.
And I think I try and portray that, you know, and just in my life in general, I've tried to be somewhat level-headed and give people a chance, you know, to, and just be nice to them, you know.
Because that's, you know, that's just, I guess, how I was raised and how I want to be treated, too.
So, you know, I have no problem with people that don't like me or anything like that, doesn't it?
I don't get my feelings hurt very easy. I'm not super, I'm not super emotional in that sense.
But it's just one of those things where it's like, I think I try and do the best that I can to let these guys know that I do have respect for them.
In girls, obviously. I say guys as all of them, but yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah, I think, you know, I have separate relationships with all of them.
Some I'm closer to than I'm not. Some I'm, you know, I talk to outside of racing more than others.
And I, you know, I think when Gage said that, that was probably, you know, a lot of what he meant is just we have conversations outside of it.
We've, you know, hung out outside of the track and, you know, same, I think Richard would say the same thing.
You know, Matt, I meant racing pro stock motorcycle. So our relationship is very much like around racing.
But, you know, outside of the racetrack, I do have relationships with all these people that are different, unique.
And I have, like I said, a lot of respect and, and I can't say that, like, I despise one person that I'm racing this weekend.
That being said, I do really want to beat all of them incredibly bad. So.
Well, it's your birthday. What's, what's on the Chase Van Zandt birthday agenda?
Oh, man. So you're actually in, we were in Texas over the weekend with my fiance and the McGay Hayes.
So that was a lot of fun. Chris's birthday is next week. So last year we got to celebrate kind of together and we did that again this year.
So we got to do that. Tonight is just me and my family. And this weekend, I think some golf with some friends.
So it's, it's turned into like a whole week long thing. But yeah, tonight is a, I'm working.
I'm running CNC machines and hopefully setting up some CNC machines that we got at the shop.
So that's been really busy. I'm life away from the racetrack and I'm super excited about that.
And yeah, other than that, just lay low, hang out with the niece and nephew and family.
So Abby probably won't ask this question, but I will. I'm not afraid. Let's talk about wedding plans.
How is that all coming together? And we're good. We could have it tomorrow. We're done.
So I feel like Holly McGay Hayes and Berks have that on lock.
Like they came in with a plan and it was like, Hey, here's what we'd like to do.
Is that kind of how it all rolled out? Did you get to weigh in on anything?
Yeah, I have. I wanted to be involved. You know, like, I didn't want to be one of those guys that was just like,
Oh yeah, just tell me when and where, you know, like you hear that.
Like that. There are some things where I was just like, I don't know.
This isn't my level of expertise here, you know, but no, it's been good.
Like we've got a lot done. And yeah, it feels like a long time till May of next year.
But yeah, it'll probably be here sooner than we know.
And I'm super excited. Obviously it's great family. And yeah, yeah, been a lot of fun to play with them.
So my biggest piece is someone who's recently somewhat recently been married.
Make sure everyone, including grandparents, eat day of like no one.
My husband's grandparents didn't actually walk down the aisle or process down the aisle like they were supposed to because his grandmother forgot to eat that day.
Oh no.
Highly recommend everyone eats so there's no like nervous stomachs.
And yeah, it's for everyone.
Yeah. Yeah. No, hopefully it is. It is later in the afternoon, like I think five o'clock or something like that.
So hopefully everybody gets a good lunch and we don't make them wait too long till dinner. That's a good point though.
Yeah, I'll take that into consideration for sure.
All right, well Chase, we wish you all the best luck. Have a happy birthday.
Look forward to seeing you in Sonoma. Anyone you want to give a shout out to leading up to Sonoma.
Obviously, you know, you got trick, you know, trick tools, you know, back in you, but anyone else who want to make sure we give a shout out to.
Yeah, so I guess actually news is just broke yesterday and it's still kind of breaking, but I will be, I'll be racing under PowerEdge for Sonoma.
So I'm super excited about that. They've been on the bike kind of as an associate sponsor a little bit last year and this year too.
But I will be complete PowerEdge in Sonoma and Vegas of this year.
So I'm super grateful for that. It's going to be really, it's going to be a little odd for me.
I've only ever raced under trick tools and obviously that's my family's family's business.
So but yeah, huge thank you to Lisa at Denzo and PowerEdge.
Really cool to rep them, especially at the Denzo and PowerEdge race.
So hopefully this new look and everything gives us some some good mojo going into the weekend.
But yeah, I'm excited to unveil the bike. I'm really excited. It looks cool.
New Leathers, the whole whole works. So yeah, just an honor to rep them and thank you to everybody at PowerEdge.
Looking forward to a good night on Saturday night at the at the banquet with them as well.
And yeah, I'm excited. That'll be fun.
Awesome. And that is a big deal.
Denzo does a big banquet on Saturday night.
Now with the new Leathers not being a leather expert in any level, new Leathers have to be broken in like a baseball glove or they already come kind of broken in.
Yeah, they're so fitted to you and they're fitted to be in a riding position.
At first it's it's funny, like they're more uncomfortable to walk around in and they're probably they're most comfortable in like your riding position, like going down the track.
So sometimes with new Leathers, it's like, man, I just can't wait to like drop the clutch and be in like second gear and I'll be comfortable.
But you know, sun, heat, that all helps.
And I think in Sonoma, you know, during the day, especially it'll be it'll be a little warmer.
So the yeah, I'm not too worried about the break in process, but yeah, it'll be good.
Awesome. All right, well Chase, thanks so much.
Have a great rest of your day for your birthday and we'll look forward to seeing you here in a couple weeks.
Yeah, thank you. We'll see you guys next weekend.
Thanks.
All right. That was the great Chase Van Zand.
So, okay, so we birthday wedding, new Leathers.
I mean, I get super excited about the call out races.
Oh, yeah, you are rolling the dice, you know, like Matt said, oh, I want to pick someone on the bottom half the field.
Well, okay, your choices are Steve Johnson, who's won so many times.
Yes.
Gianna, who's right for a win chase winning and John Hall.
Yeah, I mean, those aren't exactly ducks.
No, they're not.
And I just think in like they said, you know, Sonoma loves motorcycles.
Yes, I think that's a cool race for them.
I think I get a real motorcycle vibe when I'm there.
But I think that just having that whole deal come together just to be out there just for that race.
Yeah.
Really excited for chase and power edge.
I think it's a positive sign when sponsors are seeing what these pro stock motorcycle guys are doing and want to get even more involved.
And chase is someone who I would love to see what more sponsors support could do for his program.
And I think also a big shout out needs to go to Lisa at Denzo and for those that don't know, I mean, there's there are certain people that are involved with brands Brian Bolander at peak is super involved.
The Mac tools people, but Lisa Denzo has, you know, supported so many teams, particularly in pro stock motorcycle category.
But I just think it's really cool to see them growing that brand to continue to get and keep more drivers involved to do the things they did to make sure that the drivers can get out west.
Also, you know, shout out to get tricks for doing the pro stock car and process motorcycle callouts.
Yeah.
You know, those those deals are really cool. I think they're cool on TV.
If you're at the event going into, you know, the tent when they're doing the actual callouts is a lot of fun.
They do extra autograph sessions and stuff to which is awesome.
And I think the motorcycle guys easily do the best job of hyping it up and you know talking the appropriate amount of smack smack.
Yes.
And then did you see the way Matt did his little grin when he was like well gauge called me out this year or last year, but then he watched the rest of the race from the right.
I love I love that of like, you know, you know, just mess around and find out kind of deal of like, oh, let's just do this.
So then, you know, how does that play into and I love the fact that Chase, you know, probably has a little bit of a plan to, you know, okay, I'm going to just be quiet or I'm not going to get caught up in it and then just see if one of these guys, you know, calls me out and then I will just see what happens.
So just a great deal excited to get the season started in California next week or next year.
Yes, there's there's a certain symmetry also by starting in Pomona and ending in Pomona.
I agree.
I agree.
It just scratches my brain.
Yeah, so they're you know they're already vying for motor so yeah.
So tricky deal with that is you don't really want to have a specialty race during the countdown.
So, but we'll see.
Oh, Maryland.
Oh yeah, Maryland.
That'd be great.
I was thinking of Michigan.
So yeah, that could be.
Yeah, that would be also a killer deal to do that in Maryland.
So because they are motorcycle crazy there.
So, all right, well, I don't want to burn up all of our powder since we managed to come out the banger show today.
I want to thank Matt Smith and Chase Van Zan and Joe Costello.
Yes.
And we'll be back next Wednesday to preview Sonoma and get it all things Sonoma about, you know, flying into San Francisco.
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Do we not go to Alcatraz?
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NHRA’s 2027 schedule drop sparks a lively debate on going “old school” with an earlier season start: Pomona and Phoenix in February, Gator Nationals in March, and a traditional flow that brings West Coast fans in first before marching East. Guests Matt Smith and Chase Van Sant preview the Getrex Pro-Stock Motorcycle All-Star Callout at Sonoma, highlighting its big single-event payout. The discussion also weighs how the new calendar affects Project Pontiac racing, travel, and the balance between more events vs keeping standards high.
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Elon and Abby review the first four races of the 2027 NHRA schedule! Then, Matt Smith and Chase Van Sant preview the GETTRX Pro Stock Motorcycle All Star Call Out! Get caught up after July 4th with a few more thoughts on Norwalk and a look ahead to Sonoma and Seattle.
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