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It's gotta be windshield. Yeah, that goes coolant overflows here overflows there
This is a is that a huge windshield? This is a windshield fluid tank that is larger than a standard car battery Wow Wow
I guess you really um
Want to make sure you always have it? I guess that's that's strange. That's a lot
Maybe they maybe in England you need it more than here
It's got pretty good shape to it
This reminds me a lot of the I remember the Ford contour SVT sure now is blob era of course in terms of design
But this is like the rear-wheel drive early version of that this reminds me of that infinity G20 T
Which was also Nissan Primera, but it's a little bigger than that. It's also got that need like Nissan Cifro
So sort of the what are the like early 90s like not like a maxima XSE like the Nissan oh, yeah
Mid 90s Nissan styling to it, which I suppose was was taken from this and not the other way around
What was that going real drive right this car Cifro, yeah, sorry the Carlton. Yeah, that's one of the big
Yeah, the infinity, you know, whatever I 20 T
Front-drive car like a lot of those things. So this is a little rare in that regard. Yeah
cool
That's fun, but that G20 T was underrated. It was nice car. Yeah. Yeah, they handled really good
I drove a modded one on a one-take. I'm like, this is a sleeper. No one's really talking about. Yeah, they're all right
Yeah, and my buddy Devereaux and a call in high school hit a raccoon in about a hundred miles an hour and
Other than needing a new front bumper the car was fine. So I was like, all right
How's the raccoons not so fine red mist. Oh, it was not good. It was it was all was ugly just the
opposable thumbs just hanging onto the grill
They're cute it was so gross if things go right in our life
So I'm not gonna pet raccoon like 10 years
We're just gonna have a house in the middle of nowhere and we're gonna befriend a raccoon
So just gonna arrive. Yeah, I want you determine that it's welcome
Yes, and it will be and so I just want you to know what you're getting into when you visit
I'm gonna fuck my god. You like that's Steve. Yep. He's fine. Yeah, the prepper slash animal rescue error is really approaching
Man dirt cheap in Lancaster
Where are we looking at dirt? We're further one place that has trees and stuff. Oh true for the north. Okay. Oh up north
Not like not like idle wild. I mean ideally I want my own tunnel. It goes into Canada, but it might be too cold there
But yeah, probably different state. This is a ways out, but just expect raccoons is what I'm saying
So anyway, you should buy a lotus Carlton. Yeah, I don't know who the fuck works on a lotus Carlton
A man fortunately, it's not my problem
I just my problem is to tell you that I drove in it is very very fast. You need a Nigel. Yeah, I bet you like
Charlie would know
Which Charlie oh yes, you would know who who could work on very true. Yeah, and it depends on what state you're in
Yeah, it's gonna be one of those things was like one guy and when they retire like we're all fucked
Like if you're in your
God if you're in your like 20s right now
You should be
Finding weird cars and learning how to keep them running and being the fucking last guy or girl in America
It's really that can take care of these fucking cars and you will have a customer base for life
Did you see there's a story a few months ago about this girl was like 15 and she started a carburetor repair
She goes in one track. Oh, okay. I'm not ready for track Riley's rebuild
Yeah, I believe it's like it went from her doing it to
Hiring a staff of other like high school women to do it and then her brother takes it over while she goes to college like
You know people need carburetor repair and fewer of them
And so she had a successful business by the age of 17
So yeah, get out there fix lotuses and carburetors are I mean no disrespect like not the most
complicated thing like one can learn to rebuild carburetors without
Too much, you know trouble like and then you can just be the person who does that a lot of people don't do that
But if you do, I don't I don't either I've needed to do it for a long time
Yeah, I know you don't have to be a super fucking genius to do it
But I don't know how to do it so I will pay somebody right shout out to her. Yeah, I'll pay her
Yeah, and then there's the tuning of it. Which is a different story. Yeah, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, Marco could probably do that
I should ask him. He could probably rebuild a carburetor. Oh, yeah
Yeah, okay, uh
Anyway proving what I just said right people learn to repair weird cool enthusiast stuff. Yeah, you always have business
Yeah, if you like you could easily be the one of like two or three people in the entire country
That knows how to you know like right now like JDM shit. You can make a
solid living
With being being a person who is an expert in JDM cars
Good point people import them and then they get them and then they don't have anybody that's ever seen one before
It was really hard for me to find someone to work on the Delica skyline not so much
Yeah, but like it's not a complicated. It's a fucking little shitty diesel
We need someone that is familiar enough with like that family of cars or engines and and hopefully you're near a city
That has that. Yeah, like if you're in Idaho
The nearest Lotus service center might be far away
But if you're in a larger state or city might be all right. Yeah, and if you if you
Knew how to if you were familiar with working on, you know, Japanese imported cars
And you were familiar with like where to buy parts for them like you could you will have a lifetime career
Yeah, easy easy because they're only bringing in more and more cool. Yeah simple not easy. They're bringing more and more
Japanese cars with the 25 year rule. Yeah, everyone's excited about it
So I think the supply of business is only gonna go up the people that are making good use of K trucks now
Mm-hmm will choose to continue keep making use of K trucks and they'll they're gonna keep being cheap
So they'll every five years they'll import a new one for eight thousand dollars and you know, that'll be their
Utility vehicle. Yeah, it's a job. I can't do and if you want to listen to one of those terrifying interviews like the grandfather AI
I can't remember the guy's name British, you know computer scientist
But they said what's a great future-proof job and he was like plumber
Yeah, the interviewer laughed and he just stares dead straight. He's like, you know complicated physically that job is yeah same with this stuff
So, yeah, no one's gonna stop pooping
It's right. Hey, I can't despite what Brian Johnson wants you to believe
We're not going to stop poop. I got probably tracks all of his defecation
And yeah, and if it you know if it drops from four to three for a day, he's like what's wrong
He's like son. Come here and give me a poop transplant. I
Watched that video where they did the blood yeah plasma like his dad and him and his son and all right
You know what they are happy. All right, I can't argue against that. Yeah, just can I give a little shout out to the
Fairly lame, but insanely fuel efficient Chevy Blazer that I rented for ice race. Yeah, let's talk about it that Chevy Blazer
Nobody nobody's talking about the Chevy Blazer and for good reason. It is a very bland automobile
but we rented one for ice race and
This is a pretty small car
That fit for adults like really comfortably your seat is very well-contorted and comfortable
yeah, and I didn't have to give up any leg room for you guys to sit behind me and
It fit like a shitload of luggage at the same time and
for I got for do the I drove that car
340 something miles during that week and I use like not even
3-quarters of a tank of fuel it got like 36 miles a gallon the whole time driving up and down mountains. Yeah
It was use yeah
I see them really really on the highways here a lot
And I'm always surprised by it because my brain is just like wired to look for toyotas
But I I see them more than I expected and now I know why there it was like it was really in terms of just being like a pretty basic
car
It was it was nice at the all-wheel-drive
Heated seats spacious. Yeah, and it was like this was pretty base other than being all-wheel drive
But it was nice a carplay worked good wireless carplay was good
It was it was very fuel efficient and spacious and it held
Four people's worth of suitcases plus two camera cases in the trunk
And I think you could still still see out the back didn't it held three people's worth of suitcases because my suitcases were already at the
Airbnb
yours Sarah's and Hannah's
Yeah, yeah, it wouldn't it would not have held all of ours
But we had a roof we had a lot of shit
It would hold it would hold four people's normal suitcases
But not four people's skiing and filming shit. That's a good point. Yeah
Those these are pictures of the electric one. Yeah, this is what we had the gas one
That is not
Not the same thing that clap the trunk is almost the same the trunk is probably almost the same
trunk is bigger and
Possibly in the one that we had well because it's probably a battery under here somewhere. Yeah, but yeah surprising car
Really surprising car the seats are more comfortable than my wife's rad four seats. Are they yeah, the front seat was okay
They were shaped better in the in the Chevy don't tell her I said that the front seat was fine
The only thing I couldn't figure out was it had
On the fob it had it clearly had a button that was a remote start button
But it would not and did not remote start you think you do do you think they disable that with the rental car?
I don't know why they would know because a lot of these are our other other rental cars had it. Yeah
It was like everything else for ice race. It was expensive that rental. Oh, just for that week. Yeah, it was like
1400 for Tuesday to Sunday fuck. Yeah, wow. Yeah, it was expensive
Uh, yeah, all right, so next year will tow a vehicle. Well, I mean look
We now know the math on it. I mean the flights were expensive and the rental car was expensive
But we you know, we say we got home
Very very efficiently and we didn't have to but I mean, you know if we wanted to make an adventure out of it
I'm not against fucking shout out to Paul Kramer who drove his 944 the whole way up there. Whoa. Yeah, that's
Incredible couple people did that someone else. I forget who else someone else I talked to road trips from LA also, but it's not my preferred
It's not my backs preferred the duration of sitting will be rough
Yeah, it's like clearly suboptim if we broke it up with content stuff along the way
But you know in both directions that could be a rad road trip and I bet it's a gorgeous trip
I bet the drive like watching the landscape changes you get up in the mountains is stunning
Well, the first half of it. We're certainly familiar with sure. It's we the first half of it is LA to
basically
Salt Lake City and then you just keep going
North from Salt Lake City rather than turning east towards Denver
Right
It's pretty much just 15 to Salt Lake City, and then you keep going north instead of turning right. Yeah, I mean I
It probably is gorgeous. You're probably really good
Continuing through the Rockies all the way from, you know, yeah mid Utah to
Yeah from from here. It's probably really awesome. Yeah, and then all the way
Yeah, and you go you drive through Yellowstone and shit. We could do that
I mean, that's a thing we could go
You know we could go to some national parks or something
But I there's there's possibly a mathematical argument for
You know, I wonder tell the spider put some put some spike tires on it. It's I don't think it would be
Hey, I don't think it would put that cool of a show on and and like I don't you know
I don't think it would you know people have seen the spider before I don't think you know
Whatever we'll see. Yeah
We'll say
it could also be like maybe if we can get someone to give us a
Luxury van slash RV type thing that could tow our trailer
And now we could you know just sort of stop somewhere like super pretty
standalone for the night and maybe even like
Live in the RV during
Ice race that might be a lot, you know, my my friend who runs Santa Cruz vans
He camps he van camps at the ski hills in Tahoe all the time
He put in heated floors and insulation. It's fine. Yeah, so and I met people at Nouveau van
And I bet they'd be happy to let us want to drive to that thing. Oh, that was the guy who was it at Johnny's cars and coffee, right?
Yeah, yeah, coffee machine if they have one that can tow a light trailer
Cuz cuz our trailer plus Manx is only 4,000 pounds. Okay, so yeah
That could be fun
We got a couple other cars actually in addition a little Carlton on we got a really nice Ferrari 360 on bring a trailer right now
It's a silver
Silver F1 car with blue seats and it's live right now
This is gonna be a good one. It's a coupe. It's very there it is 18,000 miles very well cared for car
It would be a great, I mean it's F1 so meh if you ask me
But it would be a great candidate for a swap
Because it's otherwise just aces Wow, and I think the fact that it's F1 will probably
18,000 miles, that's low. Yeah, it looks it looks it too. It looks great. I drove it today for the video and
It draw it sounds to be exhausted started up. Yeah, it sounds. Yeah
Yeah, okay, so someone buy this and then swap the trans and it's got service records going almost all the way back to new
Like 20 20 years of service right sick. Yeah, so you get this, you know, it's it it'll you know
It'll probably go for I hope a good number, but it likely won't hit a hundred. We don't we're not expecting a hundred
It would that be great, but
But and if you just you know 2025 for the swap and you got a real keeper
Yeah, this seems like the great way to get into a Ferrari
You could be happy with it for a long time. I drove it. I drove it today
I hadn't driven one in a while and I was like God these they're comfortable. They're real
They just really nice comfortable cars to drive
You just drive them all over the country drive them all the time drive them every day and there's a really comfortable car
this one with the to be just sounds really nice and
It is quick. It is definitely quick
But the the current owner bought it thinking he was gonna drive it a lot, but has a big collection
Ended up liking some of his other cars a little more driving those a little more and and wants it to go
To go to a good home someone who's actually gonna drive it
so if I had the money if I had if I had just sold the NSX and
The the Kuntas wasn't looming. This would be incredibly appealing for me to just may have made this do an offer
And keep this car
But I'm exercising some self-control and you're a city's project happening
The most we're we're we're hoping the Mercedes is gonna go well
I mean in terms of learning about this powertrain swap things. Oh, right Mercedes is is not a hundred percent certain
But Kuntas is and we think that's gon' be
So we're not we certainly are not that's a hundred percent happening and a hundred percent expensive
Yes, we're not buying Ferraris right now. That would be a very fucking stupid thing to do
So we've got that Ferrari up right now. We also have a one-owner
Mercedes 450 SL that's gonna be going up probably by the time this podcast airs. It's not up right now
We also have a 997
Carrera s cab that's going up
In a couple of weeks. It's red, but it has like a turquoise wrap on it
Maybe not for everybody, but otherwise a very nice car
So that's me. That's a bunch of cool cars going the Carlton Ferrari. Oh, we also have
Probably going up in two weeks a a black black
91 Ferrari 348
T
s which is the Targa
I
Love that car too. That would be a tough one similar money. I think for the 360 or the what would you do? I
think similar money for the 360 as is not swapped or
91 black black 348
Well, I still go 360 because the good year for 348 was 94 right the best year
That's the best year when it was becoming
The 355 all the good stuff I would do that because I bet the 360 even though the transmission is the transmission in
The corners and whatnot. It would be more rewarding and I also think it looks fantastic
I think it's a beautiful car from every angle. I don't 48's look good
I think it's cool, but I just I just preferred once we got into the 90s design more than the 80s, you know
So that's what I would do. All right fair enough either way. Someone will get a good 348 also
Can we go to the people? Yes, because
I'm out of things to talk about because we podcast yesterday too
Happens we got to get ahead y'all got to get ahead. There's only so many things happening in our worlds
Because we got to do paperwork and shit, too
We got to do what we got to do paperwork and shit, too
We don't have we we're not always out doing exciting car things we can come come back here and tell tales sometimes
We just got to pack for a trip and do paperwork. You know what I mean?
But patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast is where you would ask your questions
It's where you watch the live stream. It's where you get the show early. It's where you get extra show
It's where you get a show without ads. It's where you get exclusive access to collabs and things such as the
very soon upcoming notice Canyon in I
Don't know even know what we're calling it. So we don't get sued, but it's the color that looks just like my car
I I pretty sure I can't call it the exact same color car, but it will be very obvious of the intent
Yeah, that that company would like a new revenue stream and you don't want to be it
Um, all right, let's see what we got. Can you make that bigger, please keel and toe says
What brand is poised to develop a cult-like following similar to Porsche in the last 15 years a
Cult I mean there's certain brands that already have cult-like followings
Yeah, developing one because that assumes a newish brand. Yeah, I think Rivian's doing the best job
I think they've they're becoming, you know, they're more like Wrangler
You know people that like Rivian really like Rivian. We've talked about this the polls despite their reliability
Yeah, first time Rivian owners their response to another one was huge. Yeah, so I think they've actually done the best job
I mean look last 15 years Tesla has a literal cult. That's a good point like we don't cult like
Yeah, I'll give Rivian cult like that means like people really like their Rivians and would buy another one
Tesla is an actual cult
they have like lunatics and
So, I mean I is not be it's not in the same way that Porsche has
Enthusiasts, I don't think Porsche enthusiasts can get a little bit overboard with their colors and whatever and be dweebs
Tesla people are insufferable. Well because the Porsche formula was racing history plus
good cars plus a consistent design and a
The exchange between like motorsports engineering and the
Publicly available cars has basically existed the whole time. Yeah, so I think to have something like that
You need a you need Corvette or Ferrari like you need a company that races and sells performance cars for 50 years. Yeah
Matt rear-ends moms
That's only true in a long time select ways not since I was 16
I
Is the price oh wait is the price difference between the forerunner and the Landcruiser based on where it's built and
Tariffs or does the Landcruiser carry on the higher standard for build quality and lifecycle of the old Landcruiser?
Or are all Toyota trucks equivalent now? That's a good question. I
Think
It's too early to tell if the new car
I didn't go on the press launch for those so I wasn't told if that was the goal
Just based on vibes. It's not
and
There still is you know that the Lexus version of it here
But like there is that old-school Landcruiser that you they still have like in Japan, but not here
Here it's like there it's Landcruiser Prado is the one that we get here
I
Don't think they're all equivalent
I do think the Landcruiser is nicer than the forerunner, but again, that's just based on like vibes true
Isn't it slightly larger? Yeah, very slightly. I think there's a three-row Landcruiser or is it not?
Yeah, so there is a little bigger
It's gonna it's the same way it was in the 90s before like the forerunner they're very close in size
but the Landcruiser aimed more at like
The family that makes a little bit more money essentially little more space little nicer materials and
That's it. You know in the in the image. They sell of it. The Landcruiser is less
Bro-y than the forerunner
To me
You know I mean what do they have a Landcruiser TRD? I forget
They know they have the over trail is is their land crew. No, that's the Lexus one. There isn't a TRD Landcruiser
There's like whatever the isn't is there. There's just like the off-road
Package something right?
Because I drove the TRD Sequoia and the TRD forerunner and they were both super bro-y
They were they were not fine to drive but in in in vibes and style and certainly in the interior
They look like a fucking UFC gym
Whereas the Landcruiser did was much more what you might say demure
Like a little a little more chill about itself
There's an article I mean if someone wants to learn from you already Landcruiser
No, there's not but there's an article I'm ocean about like the main competitor for the Landcruiser might be the forerunner
Oh, that's funny if you want that if you want off-road ability. That's funny. Yeah, Matt's Peterbilt long-nosed
Oh rig says for those of us looking to be good cat dads. What's the best cat related investment you've made?
That's a good question. I'll be reading that book, right?
How much did that change how you yeah, I guess yeah, I guess
More so than like dollars. Yeah, the time investment to like read about how to raise good cats like that like
Learning about their natural like rhythms that can't catch kill you groom sleep and like stuff like that and actually taking the time to like
Play with them and in vet like invest in their like social health is more important than any like
Actual monetary investment now for monetary investments. I mean
Shit, I mean Hannah and I spent
Deep four figures on Axel's
Surgery remember when Axel had a tumor in his lungs and like and like he had crazy
Surgery that like we did not think he would survive and he did and he lived for another like four years. That's good
that so like
like
keeping Axel alive while he clearly wanted to be alive and he beat
for a for a time that disease and
Ultimately when he got sick again, and there weren't wasn't a lot we could do for him as soon as he we thought he was in pain
We you know, we did what we think good cat parents do but
That was pretty amazing, but I mean in terms like shit in the house like cat towel just like lots of cat towers
Places for cats to go up high
Places for cats to watch the world
I mean if you're handy then the tunnels in the walls were not
Hard you literally bought the tunnels on the internet and like saw all saw all did and you know you
Anyone handy could probably do it. So that kind of stuff like you can build
gyms for cats for like very cheap like wall shelving and stuff like that. So
That kind of stuff. Someone in my building has a patio. Basically, they should like
You know a cheap easy screen that's meant exactly for this and it just covers the balcony
Yeah, cats can go out and hang out there and look at stuff and look at squirrels, but not eat the squirrels
It's good if the balcony is high enough the cats wouldn't jump, but yeah, well, they
Adventurous cat could jump from balcony to tree. Oh, okay. So they want to stop that's doing that smart. Yeah. Yeah
Fat ice a fat ice agents go home shout out to him not the ice agents
The ones that are gonna go home though. I'll shout out to them
Looking for a Cartier watch for my wife. You said they all like them true
In the three to four thousand dollar range, could I find a good condition pre-owned in that budget or is that too low?
I mean
With the consideration that I have not shopped for a Cartier watch in that price point, I think so
the most affordable ones are called
Moose day Cartier that's M. U. S. T. Which was a sort of more affordable version of the Cartier brand in the like
60s I think 60s, but now it's been a long enough that most people
don't look at a Moose day Cartier and
That is one. Yeah, but there's other ones, but look, I mean, you know, it just it just says Cartier on it
But sure usually if you're throwing bucks, if you're gonna buy a Cartier for a woman, it should be square
Hmm, like Carl Carl used to say round watches remind women of being fat
You should get a square one. So there you go Cartier tank Moose right there. That's what you want for grand steel
It's 29 millimeters. So that's for your lady
Bingo bingo fucking lifetime right there, dude
That's where that's where you're at and there you go. Bob's is has been a sponsor in the past reputable
You're probably not gonna find much in the gold variety
Because gold is expensive now. So
Cam Fez says what UK tracks have you driven and what was your favorite and which what would you like to try?
Let's see drove angle C. Mm-hmm. The Lotus test track Hethyl. Yeah, I drove Silverstone once. Wow
Oh
This is a very interesting question. What other race tracks have I driven?
Huh, I mean angle C
Remains one of my favorite tracks of all time. It had elevation good curves a view of the ocean from like that top right hand turn
It was very amazing, you know, I have fond memories there. I've watched a lot of videos shot there like that's a crazy place
And there's like no over there, but it's pretty it's also like it's way out of the middle
Nowhere and when you show up you rent it and they're just like okay, and you just never see the track staff again
Great place. Yeah. Ah shit. I don't think I've driven that many
other tracks though I
Was it some little club track near Birmingham that I
Truly could not tell you the Donnington someone mentioned Donnington
I've never been to Donnington and creamer curves. Never the thing with UK is there's so many tracks. Yeah, I've never I've really the only ones
I remember our angle C Silverstone and
What do you call it just those two right really Hethyl and Hethyl
Hethyl was kind of fun actually I thought Hethyl was neat
Tickle your pickle for a triple nickel
Wait
You're playing an automatic. I don't know that do you know the game? Can you really good as a red light green light?
You play an auto game of red light green light. What car under a hundred care you choosing?
So you want maximum acceleration and deceleration red light green light was like everyone would line up at the far end of a field
Or a roller rink they'd say green light and everyone you know you go and then when they say red light you stop within like
Two seconds or one second and basically the goal is to get across the finish line first
Without getting thrown out because you were you continue to go when red light was called
Oh, so under a hundred K best acceleration and braking so you want like a nevara
Yeah, honestly just if it's just straight line acceleration and braking you want a tycon turbo s
Effectively or under a hundred you could probably and I'm sorry to say this get a lucid sapphire
Yeah, that's what you want you if you want essentially a lucid air
The fastest lucid you get or a tycon turbo s
Right like what would beat that?
Nothing unless unless you get the car that the Swedish University made that set the zero to sixty record, right, but that's
Not straight legal
TV our Bob Cigarous favorite tailpipe configurations. That's a funny name Bob Cigarous open and waiting. No
On the car man
Well, I mean sure it does but but some are some are hard-nosed like if you have a dual exhaust
Like let's just let's just call it the California Ferrari California slash Lexus isf where it's sort of a
Assemblance of a vertically stacked side exhaust, but like just off enough that you go. Why did you do that?
See, I think it looks I thought it looked kind of cool on the island really
But I thought I thought the back of the California was so ugly the exhaust couldn't help it. Yeah, I
Think quad exhaust works for me on v8's. There's almost like a ratio of exhaust pipe to cylinder or vice versa, you know
One one, let's see two each each exhaust pipe needs two cylinders
So four banger can have two pipes a v8 can have four and
And then falls apart when you get to 12 remember when
Remember in oh two when or maybe oh one when Chevy did the Camaro SS and it was a fucking LS one the first
Camaro with LS and had a single yeah exhaust pipe. It's like bad Habibi. Yeah, what are you doing?
Terrible who thought who thought of that it looks cheap as hell
That's fucking crazy. Yeah, they did that because when you see a single when I see a single pipe like that
I think it's a v6 with a broken muffler when it sounds like that
You know, that's no good. You don't want this. You basically have the same pipe set up as a v6 Mustang or the six Camaro
So yeah, it's terrible. Yeah
Now side pipes
Sometimes good sometimes not
It has to be on an old car for the most part right well not necessarily
My opinion if you have an even number of cylinders. No, no, that's not the right. That's not right. Yes, even number of cylinders
per bank
So so v8s are
Okay with a side pipe
Ten no no yeah 12s. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Yeah
Yeah, the exhaust out the back of a viper sounds better than the side. That's what you're saying. Yeah, that's absolutely correct. I agree. Yeah
The the the side pipe vipers sound like a pair of UPS trucks fighting each other. Yeah, yeah
Ben Yamine
Says oh Benjamin like Benjamin. Yeah, I mean yeah
Can you talk a little bit about the current state of Porsche?
Over the past year or so I've been hearing about the company's financial struggles
But that doesn't seem to jive with the current brand status virtually every car
They make seems to be the best in its class and the brand seems desirable as an outsider
It seems like they have the makings of a very profitable company. Well, I mean
That's true, but I'm not sure you have quite factored in how much it costs to develop like
multiple EV model lines that are
all of a sudden like not
Mandatory to sell I think yeah, thank you. I think you hit it lighting
You know hundreds of millions of dollars on fire
By developing an entire range of cars that you might not actually build is a real fucking problem
and a lot of their
Product although it's desirable
Stuff that isn't a 9-eleven although maybe it's best in class
It's often like most expensive in class like buy a lot. Hmm and to produce
To sell like MSRP is like this cayenne. I'm talking about like
To get one new it's like a hundred and thirty thousand dollars like
That's a lot of money for what is effectively a very normal car
Like that's not it's not that special of a car like it's a little bit nicer than the
Competition true. Yeah, and it if you already like Porsche, it feels quote like a Porsche, you know the in terms of
How it's built and whatever
And it's a nice car, but like that shit's mad expensive. So I think I think
Porsche has been riding pretty high over the last ten years as the
GT line and they across the board have been building great cars that people want but like
when
Everybody's not super flush with cash and then they're also spending all this money
Developing these model lines that may or may not ever
You know see the light of day or you know, they were it was it was gonna be all electric
Mcconn all electric cayenne all electric there they weren't going to have fucking gas
Cars anymore. Yeah, and now they have to go back and
develop new gas and hybrid powertrains
Possibly throw these electric cars in the garbage entirely
You know the cost and the cost of that because they want to do things at a very high level and do them
Well, of course, so they're gonna spend a ton of money just for I mean, this is article from road and track
In 2024 they're operating profits were
405 million dollars at the end of quarter four and last year was 40. So this is the whole like they lost 99% of their profit
they also
Their sales and delivery are down 6% compared to the year before so that accounted for 1.7 billion dollars declined in revenue
And 13,000 fewer vehicles delivered so and they're absorbing some of the tariffs, right?
Right, it's not a hundred percent of the tariffs are not being passed on to the consumers
So even as the price of the cars go up
Porsche is probably actually taking less profit per car than they would have been two years ago. Yeah
I mean, this is a very well done article with a lot of numbers
But basically they're selling fewer cars their R&D costs went way up on a bet that got changed because of
Country mandates from different parts of the world and that's not good. Yeah, so that's all gonna affect it
But I feel like I mean, they'll be fine long-term because people love their products
But they're not going out of business, but they're temporarily in deep shit. Yep
Yeah, yeah, it's more visible now because they're publicly treated or something publicly, right? Yeah. Yeah, I
Mean, you know sucks to be them, right? I mean, but they're not gonna go out of business
So have Travis pastrami on rye country day school. It's finally time someone made a rye bread joke wait
Can you look sorry?
Is it time for automakers and or journalists to better define the class of car that slots between sports car and GT and
Which of these classes including the hypothetical new sports GT class is your favorite for R&T driving events?
Well, that's funny so if we create a new division, what is your favorite car that you would put in the division?
Is that that's the question?
Oh
What well, what is is there a class of car that slots between sports car and GT?
I mean, do we need a new category? I don't think we do BMW of course would love it if we did because they like to create markets
but I
Think I think like with the invention and the proliferation of things like mag ride or adjustable suspension
You can have cars that blend that work well in both worlds touring and sport driving
I don't think you need I don't think you need to make a new class because the car can't do both
You know, maybe if we existed in a world that didn't have adaptive suspension
You could create a new one in between but like I don't that doesn't seem necessary. I
Agree, I mean to me a GT is a car that is optimized for
Long-distance driving and a sports car is a car that's optimized for handling like and there's a spectrum between those two cars
But I don't think it requires an entirely new category
To define that I mean there's cars that exist. You could plot them on the you know
What is like the full? What is the most the furthest down the GT could be?
Rafe or something right that's the most the most GT and then the most sport is like
33 RS. Yeah. Yeah something like something like that or some mid-engine the thing with you know
I'm a seven a seven or a seven six five LT or something like that, right and then almost everything else falls in between there
So which of those which is your favorite for R&T driving events. I mean these are for me
There's some track work
So giving some thrill rides to people there's the windy roads
But there's also because a lot of times I'll drive to the event and back from LA like a shitload of highway miles
Hmm, and so like what's important to me? I would lean more towards the GT because I could
Without bragging like hustle a soft car fast enough on a road and a track
And I'd rather have that and like adaptive cruise control and shit for those long transits then have some hardcore sports car
That that that doesn't have those conveniences and then it just beats me up
There's exceptions like hey you want to drive a 918. Yes, I do
But I wouldn't ask for for a GT3 RS or a
Fucking that Lotus or some kind of track day, you know special thing where it's a you know all the time
right, but like
What is a sports GT like a Corvette a Corvette's a good sports GT
I think I think it's the Corvette especially zero six lanes and both it can do both so well
You know hit a button
It's so comfortable and then you hit the other hit the button and goes yeah the track
Classify that as a sports car. I mean if it's got if it's a mid-engine car. It's a sports car
Yeah, they've just given it GT ability. Yeah, well, that's like that's something that's great about modern cars is
You don't really have to compromise although having said that I drove my Ferrari 328
Hours and hours and hours to other states drove it to Phoenix drove it to pebble like
Ken GT total it could it didn't have like cruise control and shit
But like it could there was nothing about that car that was less than totally relaxed on the highway
Kuntas too Kuntas
Although the mid-engine eliminates it the size of the trunk and the ride on the highway
I think it could it qualifies
On that spectrum. It's probably more in the middle than on the
Senna side of it. Well, especially it probably feels soft compared to today's sports car
So and it was just Lamborghinis in the 80s were never race cars
They were only ever supposed to be road cars and that fucking Valentino Balboni loop was shitty ass
Local regional fucking tarmac. It wasn't a racetrack
So they had to ride well even more so than they had to handle
In the 80s like nobody cared about handling what's your top speed and ooh the doors go up much. Yeah, yeah
Dungeons and Datsons
What are some cheap inexpensive interesting weird cool vehicles that would gain more attention at a car meet or gas station than today's
average exotics
Autozam
Yeah, around an autozam AZ1 pulling doors. Yeah, there's right-hand drive. That's 25 grand
Yep, yeah, I'll get you a lot of questions. Yeah
That's a good one. You know, I said, uh, you know, dude Hannah's deli the Delica
You can't stop somewhere without people asking about the Delica. That's a very friendly useful vehicle like that is a
We bought that truck to be a tool and like everybody loves it. It's so charming
Same with like her pow the power a figaro
Japanese shit weird Japanese shit if you got like one of those diesel right-hand drive forerunners
That'd be a sleeper, but you'd get talked to by so many forerunner. Yeah, dude
Get a fucking patrol with a huge turbo on it. Yeah, you know
Car nerds just want to see something that they haven't seen before or haven't seen in a really long time
I mean go find like a Cadillac
Simeron with
2000 miles on it that some dealer can't give away, you know, and you win a trophy with for something like that at Radwood true, you know, like
You know take it if you if you if someone sees that you've taken the effort to import a car that doesn't seem valuable enough to import like
Dude, I went to Monaco
Monaco the only car I took picture of in Monaco was like a
1983 Corvette like pace car edition with Monaco tags on it like somebody took the
Spent the money to import the worst Corvette of all time and had been driving it around Monaco for years
Like that's what I'm talking about find something that nobody gives a shit about
Except you but it's like the best and yeah people will people like me will lose their mind and not care about the latest, you know, whatever thing
Blaupunked ply of Vista says with the imminent demise of the Tesla Model X
Do you think there'll be a future for cars with gullwing doors like in demolition, man? I
Mean, yeah, but it's exotic cars not like regular cars aren't supposed to have doors like that
It's not that's not practical or useful
But I think the model X has a lot of problems with the doors
Yeah, and it's always complicated like they have to have the crash system
They have to be able to blow the doors out like it's a complicated thing for the car company to do
Yeah, but I also think they will always have a place because everyone thinks they're rad. They're just gonna be rare
Well, it's just it's it's pivoted to the more practical, but still cool butterfly doors. I mean, that's
car with a carbon tub
Ken and really should have
Butterfly doors. That's like that's a more effective door system
It is a way better door system
But I just think because the gullwing or that you have the gullwing and the butterfly door
Have been so or sorry the gullwing doors have been so iconic. They will come back. Yeah, just they'll be rare
I blow horns
What cars go from bad or mediocre to great with a few modifications?
I think any Honda Civic of any generation with like a little sway bar and a little suspension is
Suddenly one of the funnest front-wheel drive things you could drive
Yeah, a Mustang GT with a set of like coilovers a square stance wheels and like
Track pads and fluid is a formidable track performance machine that is like well within warranty
F-body Camaro's if you run
Squares dance turn in like Corvette. Yeah, that's a good way to start. Yeah, and same with the later Camaro's
I mean, they're a great track car. They got better and better. So those can surprise some people. Yeah
Miata's
They're fun, but they're very soft. I think yeah, I'm not a little right suspension setup for sure
But but but they're not like bad like cars that go from like it's hard to make something go from bad to like good
Like if it's bad, it's engineered might be engineered poorly. Yeah factory. I would say like our how about like a
Fox body Mustang with a proper Watts link put in the back of it
Like that's like a car that's how to make one of those handle like totally predictably actually
Tough one a bunch though. Yeah
It's hard to it's hard to find a car that the like the only problem is that the suspension is just a little too soft or something
You can all right. How about this a classic Bronco and the only thing you change is you give it to Jonathan Ward and write him a
Check for 300,000. I wouldn't say that's a small modification, but you're you are correct only one thing. Yeah, you only have to write one check for it
Um
The swinging tire what are some cars that had so much hype from journalists
It was impossible to live up to expectations when you drove it the Cybertruck
That's true. Yeah
So much hype is tough to live okay
This is hard because oh and five touring
Like we had one and everyone had wanted one for decades and they brought it here
But with all the technology required to make a modern car blah blah blah it was like oh, this is very compromised and not great
Yeah
Uh-huh. I think the same about the RS6 actually. I like it in very specific
Uh
Environments, but in most of them I go was is too. It's too sports car when I want to be more GT car
Yeah, my my shameful thought is that I like the RS Q8 much better than I like the RS 6
Which is my that's like that's like sacrilege like as a as a gearhead
I must like the wagon better than the crossover. Yeah, which is wagon, but actually I don't I actually like driving the RS Q8 better
Hmm
Yeah
What about that no country for old buffets
What common car feature do you think people use the least good question? I
Mean rear wiper like I I use the rear wiper in Sarah's car
And I think I'm the other person who does it she goes. Oh, that's right
I like I use it in Tycon. Yeah, and I get mad and when cars don't have it now. Oh, it's helpful
Yeah, sure things get annoyed in that in the Acura Integra type escalate didn't have it and had I was like Matt
No said no like sedan's have it. I was like, you're right. They don't
Uh
Sunroof I find that I that when I have a car with a sunroof. I don't use it very often really. Yeah
I thought you would I I'm the kind of person. Yeah, but I but I don't I don't use it very often actually
I think a lot of
who
Features that don't get used on board navigation systems
Yeah, nobody probably uses that. Yeah, we just go to car play. Yeah
The notorious jrg
That's a good one
That would be
I bet you could do it if we were to get a
Fun car in a in a jrg that would be that would be the ntrs jrg
Yeah, that'll be sick
I've been driving my fiat 500 for nearly a decade and man the highway driving ain't too smooth
Is that a short wheelbase thing a cheap car thing or a sign that my shocks are beat? Yes, probably all
correct
The answer is yes
Definitely
Yeah, it's this is the problem with driving a disposable vehicle
um
Yeah, 10 years
And and you've got small wheels
You've got a car that is uh sort of thinly put together
And your rubber is is probably wearing out. I mean, maybe it maybe your shocks
Maybe your bushings
You know 10 15 years a long time might be time for bushings in that kind of car
But also yeah, it's got a little short wheelbase not exactly optimized for highway driving
But I might have your shocks and bushings inspected. Yeah in alignment. That can make you move around more than alignment for sure. Yeah
um
Run gmc
Was that someone's answer? No, no, he has they asked this first and then wrote this tl. They are also at the top
All right. The question is tire width versus tire compound
um
okay
Would you
Upgrade your tire compound until you run out of grip
Before making your wheels wider
Uh to achieve a similar effect. That's a good question. It is a good question
I think you can upgrade your tire compound without negatively affecting your steering field. I agree
If you widen your wheels your steering will get heavier
Yep now you may or may not want that you're talking about
A c4 zr1 and a gmc cyclone
And these are cars with heavily over boosted 90s steering. So a wider tire may actually
Somehow improve that
um
But in general
You will change the steering field by putting wider tires and you will not really change the steering feel by putting stickier tires
So that's the question you need to answer for yourself. Do you just want more grip?
Or do you also want to change how the steering feels?
um
Didn't know a turbo was a fish. I like that's funny
uh
I love armchair anonymous episodes of dax's armchair expert podcast
Would you guys ever do an episode where friends or car journalists wrote stories?
That you would read anonymously with their worst or most
embarrassing stories
Absolutely would but I wonder if people could even if they took their name off of something
The internet is the internet these days. Would they be able to piece it together? Yeah, and so
I don't know. I I hope when we're all like 80, you know, we everyone just starts publishing a book with
You know worst funniest moments
Can't get sued for or I don't know that you won't affect career and whatever
I feel like the I feel like if you do something that is a funny story but not like career ending
You probably are more willing to talk about it already
Um, but I like the idea. I'm not I'm not totally against it. I rarely hear about like
Like
Like because we would know who it was. Yeah, right the audience would say I don't hear
You know, even at like dinners and stuff with other journalists
We hear about people that have crashed press cars and but then they'll they'll come on the story
And they'll just tell that on the podcast. I'm sorry. I might I flub the word
They'll come on the podcast and they'll just tell that story for the most part. Yeah
Yeah, there's very few times where it's like
I'm gonna tell you this but like you can't tell on the you know who would have the better stories the pr people
Oh, sure. If they if they could tell stories about
about crashes and
antics of journalists especially in the 80s and 90s
That's shit. Like I've heard people have told me stories from like the 89 press launch of something and I'm like, are you
That's insane. It usually has to do with professional pleasure providers
Uh and stuff like that. So those would be the stories. Yeah, it's always about hookers and drugs. Uh ball caddy
I want a second car to learn how to wrench
Uh, the priority is ease of learning. It should drive
Uh, but the driving experience doesn't really matter seven k or less
Um, their list is great crown vic ranger to coma miata. Um
well, this is
This is an opportunity here. It's
It's great that you want to learn how to wrench and it's great that you are have a priority of ease of learning
But this is still a car. It's gonna cost you money space and time sure
So although the driving experience doesn't matter
Like you have an opportunity to get a second car here and like
It it and the and the things that you list up as examples crown vic ford ranger toyota
It's coma miata civic other like crossover between
Like do you like you do you want a truck like do you want a utility truck a utility vehicle?
Like there then you maybe you want one of the truck
Do you want to uh, both a ranger and a tokoma are good good options here?
You know, and do you want a sports car miata civics?
Like those are good options. Those are very easy cars to work on as are like mustangs and kameros and stuff. Yep
Um, and subarus, I think to an extent
Legos, which is good. Yeah
Um, and old bmw's even like e 30s. Um, although 7k you're not getting you're getting a horrible rusty terrible car
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, the body might be fucked but
I I do think you should get a car that you're gonna at least
You at least think you might enjoy when it's driving
Like because if you don't drive it, it's not gonna break
Yeah, that's true
But like
Do you want to drive around at crown vic? Do you want to drive around at tokoma?
Like everything you've listed would qualify under what I would recommend. There's also
Right if you if this person wants to learn to wrench
If your goal is to be able to is your goal to be able to just repair your cars no matter what they are
To save yourself some money then any of these work
If your goal is to learn more about performance cars setup, then you go miata because now you can fiddle with alignment
They're super easy to work on the parts are lightweight, which is nice truck stuff might be a little heavier
But if you are going to be an off-road person and you want to learn about suspension lifts versus body lifts versus all these other things
Like then you should get that one of those vehicles. So all of those are
Things to think about before you buy one of these but yeah, this is a car
You're going to want to use it as a car
You know there you're so it should be right and if you have a sports car already
Then I would say get a truck because you can do truck stuff. Yeah, if you have a truck get a sports car
Yeah, but sure you could yeah ranger tokoma
F1 you know old F all the 7k is not getting you probably I would say
I'd say get something that's manual because then you can learn if you had to like how to change clutches and shit like that
And that's just a piece of uh
Knowledge that would benefit you in the future. Yeah, and this is the last one fountain pens and beard
Trimmers
Wide open question. What's fun for you both?
You've seen driven and experienced a lot
Uh, so what is fun?
I mean a lot of things are fun. Yes, so many things are fun adrenaline's fun
That's that's my favorite. A lot of times work is fun. Yeah, that's true
you know, I I don't
I don't constantly like yearn for vacations because I generally enjoy the thing that I'm doing most of the time
but like
You like you go you do a lot of hiking
Yeah, not as much as I'd like but I like I like to go camping and get away from stuff
You like reset. I find that really enjoyable. Yeah, I like to
My resets are involved just enough doing something and just enough nothing
So like we just talked about the beginning of the show say the sailing sailing is a great activity
Because you're doing something but you don't need to be
Laser focused on doing it. You know, I can sail a boat and read a book at the same time
Which is nice
skiing
Golf like I like to I like, you know, I gotta be doing something. I can't just like sit. Yeah
Road trips are fun. Even though that's work sometimes
Cooking is fun
Seeing new places is fun. That's great. Yeah. Yeah, meeting new people that are from different places. Lots of things are fun
Yeah, trying new food is fun
Lots of things are fun. So many things
Fortunately, like
Most of those things are not expensive that we just listed. Yeah, that's true
Most I feel like I'm having more fun in at this time of my life learning to do a thing
Whereas when I was younger, I would assume I should be able to do the thing immediately
And if I couldn't I'd be like mad about it
So now I enjoy the process of learning getting better at something and then having a skill. Yeah
I think I I think I got lucky a little bit in that when I got grounded for getting my first tattoo and had to teach myself guitar
No, I taught myself a T to guitar using like a fourth grade level book. That was pretty humbling
I I kind of reveled in being shitty for a minute. That's great. That's a very good skill to have
It's okay to be shitty at stuff. Yeah
um
Thanks, everybody. We're gonna uh, we're gonna see
What it's like to podcast on a boat
It should be fine. It should be very relaxing. It should be fine. What's the worst thing that could happen?
Yeah, well if the boat sinks while we're podcasting it's good content though, you know true
That would be a fucking headline wouldn't it? We'd have to shoot a center card from the ocean
Yeah
podcasting while sinking. Oh, no
He's all the anchor. I got the insurance. Yes. Um
Cool, man. We appreciate all of our patrons asking such good questions today
Super best of luck buying yourself a Cartier watch out there
And uh, we'll call we'll call you in from the boat next week. Yeah. Have a good time until then and we'll see you
In our board shorts. Bye
About this episode
The hosts dive into a variety of topics including their upcoming sailing trip in the British Virgin Islands, sharing insights on the value of getting a sailing license for affordable tropical vacations. They also discuss the nuances of collecting pens versus cars, reflecting on what defines a true collection. Additionally, the episode features a review of the Lotus Carlton, a Ferrari 360 on Bring a Trailer, and an in-depth look at the 2025 Chevy Blazer rental. The conversation blends personal stories, practical advice, and automotive enthusiasm with a laid-back, conversational tone.
Matt Farah drove the rare and fast Lotus Carlton; he and Zack Klapman have a surprising review of their 2025 Chevy Blazer rental; the perfect Ferrari might be on BaT right now; and Patreon questions include:
What brand could become as cultish as Porsche?
Best car for red light / green light
Bad to mediocre with a few mods
4Runner vs Land Cruiser
Best investment as a cat owner
Watches for your wife
Favorite UK race tracks
Favorite tailpipe configurations
Why is Porsche out of money?
Do we need a term between GT and Sports car?
Inexpensive Radwood cars
Will gullwing doors come back?
And more!
Recorded March 6, 2026
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