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Coming up today, a low price for the new Nissan Leaf.
04:35
Ford's Kentucky Battery Plant begins production
04:38
and Kia makes its first EV in Europe.
04:41
Plus, stay tuned later in the show.
04:42
I'll tell you how far a battery-powered train
04:45
intends to go to break the world record,
04:48
demonstrate the strength of the technology.
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Now, Nissan's announced US pricing
05:22
for the new Leaf and the features as well.
05:25
Coming in three trims.
05:27
This headline price is low,
05:30
and it's not even the best bit.
05:32
So, first of all, base trim.
05:34
S plus trim is the base trim.
05:36
S plus, including delivery and freight,
05:39
I'll give you the final number
05:40
because it is less than $30,000
05:43
without shipping and delivery and stuff like that.
05:45
But the all-in price is gonna be about 31,845.
05:50
Obviously, no tax credit,
05:52
but that's your price, 31,845 for a brand new EV.
05:58
With a 75 kilowatt hour lithium-ion battery pack,
06:02
a big family car, 160 kilowatt motor,
06:06
EPA'd at more than 300 miles.
06:09
Okay, we think it'll be 303.
06:11
That's just under 500 kilometers.
06:13
It's a big battery, it's efficient.
06:15
So, where have they cut costs?
06:17
The base trim, S plus trim, doesn't have a heat pump,
06:20
doesn't have a battery heater,
06:22
and some other features as well
06:23
that might not bother you for a $30,000 electric vehicle.
06:27
Brand new, quite large.
06:29
I mean, not by American standards, I know,
06:32
but still, family car.
06:34
The SV plus trim, well, that's 35,725 dollars,
06:41
adds rear seat air conditioning, a heat pump,
06:43
wireless smartphone charging, and paddles for the regen.
06:47
And the top trim is the platinum plus trim,
06:49
including delivery, it's $40,485.
06:54
So a smidge over 40K.
06:57
You got a push button panoramic moonroof with frosting,
07:00
big wheels, auto wipers, a Bose sound system,
07:03
a power liftgate, heated steering wheel, and all the toys.
07:07
So, I think the headline there is Nunesan Leaf,
07:10
which looks good, by the way,
07:11
looks like a baby Aria to me.
07:13
They've smashed it on pricing
07:15
because that's before offers,
07:17
that's before dealer offers,
07:19
that's before monthly offers, that's before lease offers.
07:21
It's a 30 grand car, give or take, that is incredible,
07:26
but it's not even the best bit of the story,
07:29
and it's this bit of the story
07:29
that I think everybody missed.
07:31
That's the big battery, 75 kilowatt hours.
07:34
Will they bring the standard battery
07:38
to the United States?
07:39
Well, yes, that's 52 kilowatt hours,
07:43
and the standard range, S, non-plus.
07:47
So the plus means the longer range.
07:48
The standard range battery, 52 kilowatt hours,
07:51
pricing will be announced soon,
07:54
but well, if it's a 30 grand car with the big battery,
07:57
what's the pricing gonna be for the small battery?
08:00
Man, this is super exciting
08:02
because this is blowing the US market
08:05
wide open for a brand new family car.
08:08
This, before we get into monthly offers,
08:11
of which there'll be plenty and lease deals and whatnot,
08:13
this is looking at you, brand new Chevy Bolt,
08:17
the 2027 model year Chevy Bolt with the LFP pack,
08:20
the new Bolt, if you like,
08:22
or the summer calling it the refreshed Bolt
08:25
because the pictures we've seen so far
08:26
look like the old Bolt-EUV,
08:28
but here's looking at everything
08:30
that is previously winning on price in the US.
08:34
That leaf is going to be really, really attractive.
08:38
The large battery version of the leaf
08:39
will launch in the US this autumn
08:41
and will be easily the most affordable
08:43
new electric vehicle available.
08:45
In Canada, not quite so spectacular,
08:48
but still base price of 45,000 Canadian
08:52
without freight and fees.
08:53
Okay, moving on, big, big day for the battery industry
08:56
today, Blue Oval SK.
08:58
Blue Oval SK Battery Park is the Kentucky plan
09:01
and with Ford and SK,
09:03
and they just started making battery cells
09:06
for their vehicles.
09:07
That would be the Ford F-150 Lightning and the E-Transit.
09:10
This is a key step in Ford's partnership with SK
09:13
to make EVs more efficient
09:15
and to make them cheaper.
09:16
Ford's chief financial officer, Sherry House,
09:18
saying they're working to cut costs
09:20
across all of their electric vehicles.
09:21
Batteries are where the majority of the cost goes in an EV.
09:25
The plant currently qualifies for federal subsidies
09:28
for making battery cells in the US.
09:29
The Kentucky plant is an investment of $5.8 billion.
09:39
It'll be 5,000 when it's fully scaled.
09:42
The site will have two battery plants.
09:44
Kentucky One is the one that is opening right now.
09:47
The third, Blue Oval SK Battery Plant
09:49
is the one being built at Blue Oval City
09:51
in Stanton, Tennessee,
09:52
where Ford will eventually build
09:54
the new full-size electric pickup truck.
09:56
Vehicle assembly there delayed until at least 2028.
10:00
Battery cell production set to start in 2027.
10:04
a new battery plant opening on US soil
10:08
at a time when, you could probably argue,
10:12
Ford are not selling as many vehicles
10:15
as they would have forecast and hoped.
10:17
There's nothing wrong with their vehicles.
10:19
They just have enough of them to sell you.
10:20
There's an F-150 Lightning, a Mackie.
10:22
Batteries won't come from this factory.
10:25
And a transit, they just need more in their locker,
10:27
like GM for instance.
10:30
So in the meantime,
10:31
if they've got more batteries than cars,
10:34
heard or thunked it,
10:35
Ford becomes a big battery supplier.
10:37
Anyway, more on that theory later in the week,
10:42
Now Kia is launching the EV4,
10:45
its first compact electric model,
10:47
400-volt EGMP platform, front wheel drive.
10:50
It's Kia's first electric vehicle
10:52
made on European soil.
10:54
Production starts at the Slovakian plant at Zilina
10:58
at the end of August.
11:00
But I think the first ones rolled off
11:01
the production line already.
11:03
Kia wants to sell 160,000 of these a year,
11:07
half of them here in Europe.
11:08
Deliveries begin in September.
11:10
The Slovakian plant will only make the hatchback version,
11:13
which frankly is the looker,
11:17
which is 12 inches, 30 centimeters longer,
11:19
physically a bigger car,
11:20
that will still be made back home in South Korea.
11:23
The hatchback will have high sales in Europe
11:26
because it's, well, I think the better choice,
11:29
The EV4 hatchback starts at about 37,000 euros.
11:33
That's about 10,000 euros less than the Fastback,
11:36
which like I say is bigger, is a different vehicle.
11:38
Kia chose to build in Europe,
11:40
not just for logistics,
11:41
because the majority will be sold here,
11:43
because important markets like France and the UK
11:47
are now offering money off vehicles
11:49
when you take into account
11:51
the car's life cycle emissions.
11:53
And that includes where the vehicle is made,
11:55
and that's very, very important.
11:56
And that's great news.
11:58
Now, California may replace
12:01
the expiring federal EV tax credits itself.
12:05
California is considering a new state incentive
12:08
for EVs to make up for the loss of the $7,500 federal tax credit
12:13
And the used one as well, 4K, offer used EV.
12:16
That all ends on September 30th.
12:18
The California Air Resources Board, CARB,
12:21
released a report suggesting options like
12:23
point of sale rebates, vouchers, and other credits.
12:27
The CARB report says any new incentives
12:30
would depend on available resources
12:31
and would be sized to fit
12:34
within California's budget and policy.
12:36
This follows Governor Gavin Newsom's executive order
12:38
back in June, which restates California's commitment
12:42
to clean vehicles, clean air,
12:44
and tells CARB to prepare
12:46
for the Advanced Clean Cars 3 regulation.
12:50
This new rule could either add
12:52
to current clean vehicle policies
12:54
or be an alternative if the federal courts block
12:56
state regulations like Advanced Clean Cars 2,
12:59
Advanced Clean Trucks, and Heavy Duty Omnibus.
13:02
Any new zero emission vehicle requirements in California
13:05
would need approval from the EPA though.
13:08
Six automakers are required to follow agreements
13:10
through the 2026 model year that go beyond
13:13
what the Advanced Clean Cars requirements are.
13:17
Looted Motors next in the news,
13:19
Looted will show its gravity for the first time in Europe.
13:22
We get a look at it and that's exciting.
13:25
The IAA show in Munich next month
13:27
and the gravity will be there.
13:29
It'll be alongside the Air Grand Touring
13:31
and the Air Sapphire.
13:33
That's the special one.
13:35
Looted expects gravity deliveries to be higher than the Air.
13:38
It's a better form factor in terms of what people want.
13:40
Looted is not announced when European deliveries
13:43
or even orders begin for the gravity.
13:45
The company recently finished a 5,000 mile test drive
13:48
from Munich to the Arctic Circle
13:49
to generate some PR, some headlines over here.
13:53
Pricing and configuration.
13:55
Well, that's all unknown.
13:57
The former head of Looted, Alexander Lutz,
14:01
previously said sales would start mid 2025,
14:03
but quickly checking my watch and the calendar.
14:07
Yeah, that hasn't happened yet.
14:09
Lutz added that the goal is to price the gravity
14:11
as close to the air as possible.
14:14
Now, was that gonna be 85,000 euros maybe?
14:18
Looted now has showrooms in eight cities.
14:21
Munich, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Oslo.
14:24
Blinds to open one in Zurich later this year as well.
14:28
According to the head of Europe for Looted
14:32
now Lawrence Hamilton.
14:33
Okay, let's talk EU public EV charging.
14:37
As of July, Big Milestone,
14:41
the European Union now has over 1,000,000
14:44
public EV charging stations.
14:46
That is according to new data by the end of July.
14:49
There were 1,000,000, 5,080.
14:54
And the split is interesting
14:56
because they're nearly all AC public charges.
14:58
833,000 AC charges, 171,000 and change DC.
15:07
From June to July, there was another 8,500 AC charges
15:11
in the ground, DC charges more than 5,000
15:14
in the ground in the last month.
15:15
Since January at the beginning of the year,
15:17
the EU added more than 90,000 AC charges
15:20
and 30,000 DC fast charges.
15:24
Okay, let's take a break.
15:26
When we come back, we will talk.
15:28
IX3 new BMW exciting stuff.
15:31
Also ultra fast charging in Maryland
15:34
and e-bike adoption.
15:37
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Now, Royal Farms are installing ultra-fast chargers
19:13
at eight Maryland stores with Electrify America.
19:16
The first ones at Hale Thorpe and Oxon Hill.
19:18
After the rollout, they'll be over 55 chargers,
19:21
each one up to 350 kilowatts.
19:25
The environmental leader at Royal Farms
19:27
saying the partnership brings EV fast charging
19:28
to locations where customers
19:30
already get fuel, food, and convenience,
19:32
and now EV charging.
19:34
Royal Farms is adding these chargers
19:36
to make it stores more appealing.
19:37
It's both EV drivers and gas vehicle drivers
19:41
adding more food and beverage options, they say, as well.
19:44
What about getting to where you wanna go on an e-bike?
19:47
I'm a big convert, by the way, to e-bikes
19:51
because, well, mostly I'm just lazy.
19:54
But no, in all seriousness,
19:57
I mean, I don't do as many journeys
19:58
as I should do on my e-bike
20:01
because my e-bike is tucked away
20:03
at the bottom of the garden.
20:05
We call it the summer house, but it's just a fancy shed.
20:08
And so it's a faff to get out,
20:09
but we are reorganizing the garage.
20:11
I'm having a clear out over summer
20:13
when I get a chance because the kids are off school,
20:14
so in other words, it'll have to wait till September
20:17
when they're back in school.
20:18
However, when the garage is cleared out,
20:21
it will just be a case of, right,
20:22
pop open the garage door and off we go.
20:24
Quicker, arguably, than getting in a car
20:27
and putting your seatbelt on.
20:28
So once I've got my e-bike all ready to go,
20:31
hopefully I use it a little bit more.
20:34
A new study shows the UK
20:35
has the second lowest e-bike adoption in Europe.
20:41
Only 2.1 e-bikes per 1,000 people,
20:44
only higher than Belarus.
20:47
Norway and Denmark are leading the way.
20:49
Denmark is testing a program
20:51
that gives free e-bikes to people in rural areas.
20:53
Since 2016, France has tripled its e-bike sales
20:57
thanks to financial incentives.
20:59
The UK government should recognize e-bikes
21:01
as a serious part of the green transport solution,
21:07
Cost is still a big barrier.
21:08
They asked them were expensive,
21:10
but you can do things like cycle-to-work scheme
21:12
to make them more affordable.
21:13
Now, the Fisker Ocean.
21:16
What happened when Fisker went bankrupt?
21:19
Were there a bunch of oceans
21:20
that hadn't been sold and delivered?
21:23
The majority of them, by the way,
21:25
were bought by a ride-hailing fleet in New York City.
21:30
Fascinating article today
21:31
that I've been reading about, American lease.
21:33
So in the coming years, New York City
21:35
will be one of the only places
21:37
where you can see a decent number of Fiskers flying around.
21:40
Fisker filed for bankruptcy last year,
21:43
just before American lease,
21:45
which is New York City's biggest fleet operator,
21:48
bought almost 3,000 Fisker Oceans.
21:51
They were the unsold vehicles.
21:53
I see there's actually two in pool
21:55
that I see flying around.
21:56
There's a red one and a blue one, which is amazing.
21:58
I don't live in a particularly big town.
21:59
And I regularly see one of my neighbors actually
22:02
has a Fisker Ocean.
22:04
That's a good-looking car.
22:05
Big vehicle, great for ride-hailing in New York City.
22:08
I wonder what it's like for individuals
22:11
to keep those vehicles going and on the road.
22:13
I think you can pick one up for 13 or 16,000 pounds
22:18
I think people are just waving the white flag
22:19
and being like, all right, give me some money for it.
22:25
It's interesting, but no.
22:26
However, if you have 3,000 of them,
22:29
well, that's a different kettle of fish
22:31
because American lease now lease these Fisker Oceans
22:34
to ride-hailing drivers in New York City.
22:37
Obviously, it's got things like the integrated solar roof.
22:40
It's got all the windows that come down,
22:42
so-called California mode.
22:44
There are glitches.
22:46
Sometimes the lights will just randomly come on
22:48
and then sort themselves out.
22:50
Sometimes you need to give it a full reset.
22:52
But if you have 3,000 of these,
22:53
American lease say it works
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because they bought them so cheap.
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They've got ones that they can just strip down for parts.
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So parts, not an issue.
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Software is an issue, but they're working with a partner.
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They bought them for $16,000 per vehicle, by the way.
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And they say this is a really good financial move for them.
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They'll probably run them for what, four, five years.
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They do a couple of hundred thousand miles
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and be at the end of their lifetime.
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So if you're in New York City and you see these,
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I'd be interested to know what the experience is like.
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Now, Leap Motor is launching a nationwide TV campaign.
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It's first TV ad campaign
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since entering the UK market.
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They're giving their own money off vehicles
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as they don't qualify for the UK government grant,
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which is new, 3,750 pounds off the C10.
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This new 32nd ad shows the little city car, though,
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the T03 with scenes like a driver taking a dive,
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a kitten taking its first jump,
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a surfer waiting for a wave,
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and a couple sharing their first kiss,
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all showing what it's like to take a leap.
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The message being, you can take a leap
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into electric mobility.
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I haven't seen the advert yet coming on my TV.
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Not that we watch a lot of TV on demand stuff.
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It's mostly CBBs, BBCI player.
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Let's be honest, my TV is only on CBBs.
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When was the last time I watched TV for myself?
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But if you see it, again, I would love to know.
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You get a little T03,
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list price like 14 and a half, I think it is now.
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But PCP, 170 quid, 169 a month, 169 deposit.
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Oh, it's over four years, I think that was.
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It's not a bad little deal, that.
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And finally, Great Western Railway
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plans the new world record for the longest trip
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by a battery-powered train.
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Now their fleet at the minute is mostly diesel.
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The former London Underground train
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has been converted to run on batteries.
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It'll do 200 miles on a charge or 320 kilometers
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to show the public how battery-operated trains work,
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especially where it's, places where it's hard
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or not possible to build overhead electric lines.
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Actually down here in the Southwest,
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the Bournemouth Waymouth London Waterloo line,
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the main train that I used to get.
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I worked in town in London five days a week.
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That's a third rail system.
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We don't have the overhead lines down here.
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However, a battery-operated train for 200 miles, yep.
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That would have done the distance.
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The current world record for the furthest distance
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by a battery train is 139 miles.
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GWR's planned trip will start in Reading,
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go to London Paddington, then go to Oxford,
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back to London Paddington and finish at Reading.
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GWR has already added overhead wires
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to much of the main line on the Great Western route
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for zero emission trains.
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But many lines, mostly branches,
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don't have wires because of the high cost of installation.
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Hard to justify with fewer passengers.
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And so battery-powered trains would enable more people
26:04
to use more regular, reliable public transport
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on the trains, just another way
26:09
that batteries are impacting our life,
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how we get around, even on something
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that's been around for hundreds of years,
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which is train travel.
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Isn't that fascinating?
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Diesel trains will be retired in the next 10 years or so,
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at which point you have to look at technologies
26:26
like solid-state batteries, maybe hydrogen in there as well,
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but the march of technology is so quick,
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not surprised many of these companies are looking
26:36
at how they can make the most of technology
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that is, you've got to say,
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really being driven by the move to EVI.
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