Modern Car Are Peeing Us Off!
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Mazda
Mazda is a car company from Japan that makes different types of cars, including sporty ones like the Miata. They are known for their stylish designs.
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autopilot
Autopilot is a feature in some cars that helps with driving. It can steer and control speed, but you still need to pay attention and be ready to drive yourself if needed.
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ABS
ABS is a system in cars that helps prevent the wheels from stopping completely when you brake hard. This helps you keep control of the car while stopping, especially on wet or slippery roads.
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radar guided cruise control
Radar guided cruise control is a feature in some cars that helps you keep a steady speed. It can also slow down or speed up based on how fast the car in front of you is going, making driving easier and safer.
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standard cruise control
Standard cruise control lets you set a speed for your car to go, but it won't slow down if there's a car in front of you. You have to adjust it yourself if traffic changes.
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speed limiter
A speed limiter is a feature in some cars that prevents you from going over a certain speed. It's useful for staying safe and following speed limits.
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rain sensing wipers
Rain sensing wipers are special windshield wipers that can tell when it's raining and automatically start working. This helps keep the view clear without needing to manually turn them on.
Car
Peugeot 306 GTi 6
The Peugeot 306 GTi 6 is a performance version of a small car made by Peugeot. It's known for being fun to drive and was popular in the 1990s.
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Volkswagen
Volkswagen is a car company from Germany that makes popular cars like the Beetle and Golf. They are known for making reliable and practical vehicles.
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fog lights
Fog lights are special lights on cars that help you see better when it's foggy. They shine low and wide so the light doesn't bounce back at you from the fog.
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auto full beam
Auto full beam is a feature in some cars that automatically turns the high beams on and off. It helps you see better at night while making sure you don't blind other drivers.
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indicators
Indicators are lights on a car that show other drivers which way the car is going to turn. They help keep everyone safe by letting others know your intentions.
Car
Tesla Model 3
The Tesla Model 3 is a type of car that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. It's known for being fast, having a long battery life, and lots of cool tech features, making it a popular choice for people who want an eco-friendly car.
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Formula One
Formula One is a type of car racing that features very fast cars that compete in races around the world. It's known for its exciting races and advanced technology in the cars.
Car
Tesla Model S
The Tesla Model S is a high-end electric car that can go very fast and has a long battery life. It's known for having cool technology and features.
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12 volt jack
A 12 volt jack is a plug in your car that allows you to power devices, like phone chargers. It's called a cigarette lighter because it used to be used for lighting cigarettes.
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CarPlay
CarPlay is a system that lets you connect your iPhone to your car so you can use apps and music on your car's screen. It makes it easier to use your phone while driving.
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infotainment system
An infotainment system is the technology in your car that provides music, navigation, and other information. It's like a computer for your car that helps you stay connected and entertained while driving.
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climate control
Climate control is a feature in cars that helps keep the inside at a comfortable temperature. It lets you heat or cool the car as needed.
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heated seats
Heated seats are a nice feature in cars that warm up the seats, making them cozy during cold weather. You can usually turn them on with a button.
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massage seats
Massage seats are a luxury feature in some cars that can give you a gentle massage while you sit. They help you relax, especially on long trips.
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heated steering wheel
A heated steering wheel is a nice feature that warms up the steering wheel, making it more comfortable to hold when it's cold outside. You can usually turn it on with a button.
Car
Tesla My Model
The Tesla Model Y is an electric SUV that is a bit bigger than the Model 3. It's great for families because it has more room for passengers and stuff, while still being eco-friendly.
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app control
App control means you can use your phone to control things in your car, like turning on the heat before you get in.
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EV
EV means electric vehicle, which is a car that runs on electricity. It doesn't need a gas engine to work, so it can heat up even when it's turned off.
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sat nav
Sat nav is a system that helps you navigate by using satellites to find your location and give you directions. It's like having a GPS in your car that tells you where to go.
Car
Bmw 5
The BMW 5 Series is a fancy car that's known for being comfortable and fun to drive. It's often chosen by people who want a nice car that looks good and has a lot of features.
Car
Land Rover Defender
The Land Rover Defender is a tough SUV that can handle rough roads and outdoor adventures. It's popular with people who love exploring nature and need a reliable vehicle for off-road driving.
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all-wheel drive
All-wheel drive means that power goes to all four wheels of the car, which helps it grip the road better, especially in bad weather like rain or snow.
Car
Mercedes-Benz Eclass
The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is a high-end car that offers a smooth ride and lots of fancy features. It's designed to be very comfortable and safe, making it a popular choice for people who want a luxury vehicle.
Brand
Polestar
Polestar is a brand that makes electric cars, and they aim to be efficient and environmentally friendly.
Car
Audi Etron
The Audi e-tron is a fancy electric SUV that looks good and drives smoothly. It's designed to be comfortable and has a lot of space inside, making it a good choice for people who want an electric car with luxury features.
Car
Skoda Octavia
The Skoda Octavia is a practical car that's good for everyday use. It's known for having a lot of space inside and being affordable, making it a popular choice for families.
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Welcome back to driving home. Oh, and clearly what has not been filmed on our way home from any event in the same clothing that we were before
We're at the motorist, which is quite nice place. It's a nice place. I recommend coming here
Yeah, so we're just leaving the Mazda event, which is was fun. Well, you can see on the channel what the car's like
Someone had an accident. Someone banged it. Not us
So yeah, we're just basically on our way home now. So we are driving home
We are driving home and before we weren't driving home. So in the true fashion of driving home
We are a driving home and we have a topic we do which is right on
Brand for us. Yeah, annoyances as older people. Yeah. Oh god. Yeah annoyances of modern cars
Yeah
And if we run out of that, we'll just general annoyances, you know, like teenagers kids music
What's what's musical about nowadays?
Can you listen to radio one now and know any song?
Oh, I remember when music was just bang bang bang and you knew where you were. Well, yeah
I want to tune in a classic FM and get a bit of smacky bitch up. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, a bit of prodigy. Yeah, they're just
Oh, there's no
It's all
It's a basically music peaked in the 90s and 90s. It did it did for me
People just say that's a definitely night is night is in particular was a fantastic decade wasn't it? Oh, yeah
Go with the wrong way
And so no, we're gonna stick with car annoyances. So we're gonna be on that with and then young people
They don't know the bone snowflakes honestly
So doing a proper job. I think I can start with the easiest annoyance of modern
Vehicles, which was we've now made part of our review
It's in every review because you have to do is what people are like. Oh, how do you turn off?
the
lane assist aid aspect in it all the
Health and safety sort of stop you from having a crash things. I think we did perfectly all right before that
Well, the thing is it as we were talking off camera
It has to be bulletproof reliable and
Trustworthy and it's not well no
And so the previous car I had which was the Ionic 9 and this is not unique to that at all
Every time I left my village it goes from 30 to de-restricted and it never ever changed
The you know when it tells you what speed you should be doing. Yeah, yeah
They always said 30 every single night national speed limit and the big big huge
By a busher and no and they're not dirty in any way because I thought I wonder if it's something to do with that
But not it just refused to read them. So then it goes
It won't shut up because
I'm speeding as far as it is concerned and the thing is once you're driving as well to get to a point where you turn off
It's a lot of usually a lot. Oh, yeah, he's quite distracting. So that's not that's inherently not safe
Well, yeah, and imagine it did it the other way around so you're going from a de-restricted
To 30 to a 30 and it anyway. No, no, no, no, it's this when we had this with I think it was a Renault
Where it thought does it speed limit coming up and a 30 was 80?
Yeah, because it read presumably a three is an eight which isn't even a speed limit in the UK
the thing is though with with any of this if
If you're driving somewhere new and you don't know of a speed limit
Yep, and you're relying on that especially if it's city centre and and it's my ones
I mean the things when we had the Polestar it was wrong more than it was right
Yeah, I mean so that all cars do this door though even the Tesla misreads
Yeah, and and they're arguably the best in terms of autonomy autonomous technology, but
It's one of those we think I say if it's not reliable, I might turn it off. Yeah, exactly
I think unless it can be 99% actually 99.9% accurate then it's it's dangerous
And there's no point now in something you turn off repeatedly or that feels yeah, and then what they say is no no no
It's still up to you. It's you're the driver
It's in you know, you do that. I've already got a nine finger bang bang. Yeah, or it's saying we're doing 35 60
Yeah
That's gonna some people will read that and think I'm Mr. Sign. Yeah, it should have been going
Yeah, and then they might get done for speeding they might speed and do dangerous themselves
They ain't going to last or too slow. Oh, yeah doing a 30 and a 60 because the cars like 30
You know like say if you're unfamiliar and you thought hang on a minute. Is this 30 and we've all done it don't it?
I'm way you're in a new place
They might a car of its we go to have never been there before you don't know the road to talk
Yeah, even with the best care thought this would do restricted with things you look how dirty for what speed you should be doing
But I swear the amount of signs that must have been removed or not replaced
You know as reminders every so often people driving the same bit of road for 10 miles and you're going have we gone past a 30 or 40s
It's still de-restricted or and and what they also do as well is sometimes to read the sign for the road that you're passing
Yep, so you're in underextricted that'll be a side road that's 30 and it'll go right. You're at 30 now
Yep, I had 15
15 mile an hour speed limit on the A1
15 is it read the
Roadwork, oh my do you know the end? Yeah, yeah for the trucks
15 mile an hour on the A1 going it was going nuts
And and there was a 15 mile an hour sign
It was just meant not and it was clearly not meant for us because it said so beneath you know
Roadwork speed limit, but the cars aren't intelligent enough to know
So therefore I would argue that is it actually a
Net gate so it doesn't let's imagine it is not perfect, but more people are
safer than they were before this or is it the other way around and more people now in a worse position
Is it a net gain for society to have let's stick with the speed one first?
Does that help people do you think see can be useful some if it's right? I
Think it's one of those things where does it need to not only rely on?
What it can read off a sign, but also like you know Google Maps or something like that where it knows what the speed should be
Well, yeah, but then they could be tempted to go for a map. Can it I guess it's one of them, isn't it?
I mean unless it's accurate. I think it's probably
Not then you turn it off. Yeah, I mean I would
Thankfully my car doesn't have the speed now
I'm 60 this guy the Tesla thinks it's 60. What am I about to enter now at 60 so I'm in the 30 right now
You are yeah point proven
960 so I could have been all the way
It is my fault
But then what's the point of it because if that's doing this or making noise as well
Yeah, especially if you got a hood or they were where he's right in your eye line. Yeah, it's yeah
I think it is one of those that
It's not ready yet. Is it well? There's no point in having something like autopilot in the go
Look, I'm gonna drive for you, but you need to pay attention
Yeah, yeah, you're in control still you're the final say in this but imagine autopilot being the default behavior every time you get in the car
Oh, no, yeah, so you have to turn it off when you're getting not the other way around
It'd be dangerous people would say this is ridiculous. That's no different. I can see why they've done it
It's a little bit like when ABS came in I should imagine
Yeah, but that doesn't rely on external influence. That's just so it there when you need it. I guess I guess this this is trying it
It needs it's not here. Yeah, it needs to read stuff that some time at the moment
Anyway, only a person can do it like when we came back from Scotland on North Coast and it's is it the
not the
What is the mean a 90 a 9 a 9 is it sorry and it's
De-restricted for most of that, but for trucks if you would say it was 50. Yeah
Yeah, so this read it as 50 because there was a big 50 sign
But it said we have the truck symbol 50. Yeah
So this wouldn't stay at 60 on just cruise control if you like because it's like no, no, no, it's just in here
Yeah, so that's where you need a bit more than just sign reading technology. Yeah, yeah, it needs to
Interest they need to take his debt from multiple places doesn't it? Yeah
But even then if like you say if if you don't trust something
You know, it's like it's like your other half
Well, I've cheated on four people, but I'm not gonna do it anymore
Yeah, he never gonna believe that and it's you're never gonna trust that so you didn't turn it off. Yeah
With points, haven't it? Yeah, so alright. That's the speed thing. What about the lane keep assist because sometimes that has
When you get distracted, it can bounce you in the lit
I can see that as a bigger benefit to the state thing driving on
Narrow roads where you have to go over the central centre of the road because of Pat
Oh, there just isn't a line. Yeah, and it tries to pull you back in all the time
I had it before where he tried to pull me in and I would have hit a car. Oh
Yeah, or where it see it goes. You're about to have a collision. Yeah, and he's like, no, no
I'm just going around the corner and he's fine. It's fine
But I would say that is genuinely useful because there will be people that look at the phone and then they
Amit does that. Yeah, it should be using your phone
No, but that's what I mean. People do people do and ultimately I would say that is a net game technology
For cars. Yeah, he he probably
avoids more accidents than it causes. Should we say that lost big collision? I
Guess that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, because
It's pretty he doesn't have to rely on anything. I guess other than I detect something in front of it and then apply breaks if they
Yeah
And I'd like to think that no one would rely on that. You're not just gonna go well
There's no point for us in the bed pedal. No, I can't stop myself. I'm not gonna look behind me when I reverse. Yeah
So no, I would say that technology then that green ticker now
I think green ticker that one. So in our car. Do you like when Homer Simpson designed a car? Oh, that's a beautiful car
Yeah, if we're doing that. So we've got rid of the speed
Reading that's gone. That's gone. That's not even questionable. That's how the window we're keeping laying keep assist
However, I want a single button to turn it off and off which some do now have door there to be fair and which is nice
What do you have that reset every time you get in it? I
Get it whining to do that because people will turn it off if I turn it on again
Yeah, and what I would like is do you like?
Well this car the Tesla my phone's the key and a lot of cars say oh your key your seating position
Yeah, so I will remember your safety
Yeah, since that will be why not it's a profile. So if someone new gets into the car
It's just default. I feel and anyone if you say are you sure you want this always off?
That that I think is a nice about this legislation now where they can do that though, isn't it?
Oh, there is yeah
It has to be on every time you get in the car
Which is just to stop you turning it on because I guess that'll say well
You might turn it off and forget not to turn it on that soothe the manufacturer when it yeah, it's lawyers that have created this
Here really is and all right, so what's the next bit technology I'm going to say
Radar guided cruise control
Really? I think I like that. Yeah, I love it. Yeah on a boat with what I know is move that is the fact that people can't maintain a speed
It's you've been going through like a 50 or 60 set a road works
And you go why are we speeding up and down all the time?
But that the radar guided bit is infinitely more useful than just standard cruise in it
Oh, yeah, yeah, because the matter standard cruise is like I'm just creeping up on this guy
I'm just I'm gonna have to take it off and now I'll put it off
Oh, now it's sped up by two mile an hour now is good. Yeah, so that I think it's better on the motorway though
Yeah, you do that on the Starville Street. It's gonna emerge into break every so often. I won't use it on yeah
This pure motorway for me like a pilot. Yeah, it's pure motorway only
So I know I'm green to are we having that on our home car?
We're the home car, but I think just for motorways
Because you do it anywhere else and it I viewed it in the Tesla a couple of times
He doesn't have a speed limit on there speed limit is definitely good thing. We'll move on in a second. Okay
So yeah, the Tesla doesn't have that does it you can set cruise control at 30 mile an hour
But then it just seems to think that parked cars are going to pull out and attack you every so often
Yeah, you can't use anything Tesla do on
UK road it needs to be as it has in like streets especially with all the cars parked up in a bit as a fate
Don't yeah, it loses his mind
All right, well, let's move on to the speed limiter one of the best inventions of the 20th century. Yeah. All right
This is a 40 mile an hour
Roadwork zone should we say?
Set my speed limiter and I can just plant my foot I'm never gonna move of it. They're many added in there
Well, yeah, and does the me of it. I can't remember I
Know I've had quite a few cars that speed limit to put it that way
It's brilliant. Really. Yeah, because he's like right road works or speed cameras like you say
I'm an unfamiliar area the amount of schools we have to visit in the ocean. Yeah, I just left it at 30
Yeah, just just it's like a spot a poor man's
V8 our guided cruise control, but I'm in control of what the car does. It's just stopping me doing a mother should do
Yeah, yeah, so that I think
Is he's something that well, why does that not exist as a feature?
Would you like me to read the road signs and stop you going above that unless you really plant your foot?
Yeah, yeah, that would make more sense because I'm still in control
But that's gonna, you know, I kind of just avoid me from going through a speed camera or something like that
Assuming we could trust it. Yeah, yeah, 15 miles an hour
But you know, I know I think a speed limit is more useful than standard cruise control
I'd say definitely. Yeah, and my standard cruise controls I think is pretty useless because you'd never goes the speed of the car in front
So you're always either catching him up or losing him. Yeah
So no, are we keeping speed there? Keep speed limit. Keep speed limit then on the homer cat
Right, the other ones I think I think we'll just leave in things like airbags leave their bags
Automatic lights, wipers or drunk pack. It's a drunk pack. Yeah driving pack driving pack. Absolutely. Oh Mike
Do you know what though? I would say this with one caveat
Automatic headlights brilliant never had a problem with them. They always seem to work at the right times
Pat from it's foggy sometimes
Yeah, or it's raining heavily people don't hear the car don't you know if it's daylight is rain heavy
Yeah, but one thing that really annoys me particularly in this car is the automatic wipers. Oh Jesus
They've been designed by somebody who's never experienced rain. I have only been in one car as a view
Yeah, owned one car that had I would say 95% effective
Red your rain sensing wipers and that car usually came out in 1996 or 7. Yep. That was the
Persuade the 306 GTi 6. Yep
Had the best auto sensing wipers of any vehicle ever and I assume any 306 of the sims
Yeah, that's just a GTi and
Like you said, it just worked and it sped up when it needed to
We've gone back
Well, what I don't get I mean, this is this is it's a thing on Tesla groups and forums
Everyone like jokes that they wipers are useless
Even the fact that they're getting close to autonomous driving. Why can't I fix it?
Is it is it just someone at Tesla going now?
I'm gonna put people on Mars yet. They can't fix the automatic wipers in their cars. Yeah
One other slider for sensitivity. I really I was listening to an interview
On radio and they went it was I think it was Brian Cox. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah the like the universe is wonderful genius
Yeah, and basically we're right. We've got all this technology
We can see galaxies from like a million years ago
You know, we can see the edge of the galaxy see the center of the galaxy. Why can't we have lifts working all the time?
And this is anything why can't we have wipers in the world's most advanced autonomous car?
Arguably. Yeah effective if this thing goes nuts when it's barely raining and sometimes I've had to override it because you can't see
Because yeah, it's raining so hard and it's it's like on intermittent
I'm not sure what I mean. Is it a camera that does this or is it a visor the wrong way?
No, I haven't gone the wrong way. Thank God for that. We ended up in hole
No, so yeah, yeah, it is a Tesla thing and even Tesla owners joke about it. Yeah, it's terrible
For years, I don't know. I've never used the auto wipers. I'd take them off
But I I end up if you know what you're all right if it's
If it's spitting or something like that, but I do find that
If it's
Like heavy rain, I often just have to override it. Yeah. Yeah, because it makes it kind of pointless though
You might as well don't have them. I preferred the old Volkswagen one where you had
Intermittent and then four stages of intermittent and then you had on and on fast
Oh, I quite like the one with I think the same as me as this and the mini did as well where you can adjust the
Sensitive sensitivity of the rain setting, which is what this this car needs. It doesn't have that does it? No
And I'm sure it is a software option. I
Think it's using cameras. You recognize something to do with that. I don't have cameras
Do you even know how that works? How does like the Persia all those years ago?
Think out the window there and if you get wet
How does it work though? There's a little sensor in there. That's usually
Infrared us in between. Yeah, I know it's sweet. It's up. I don't does it try and see the water or detect wetness
There's not there's no like you're like two contact strips. What sort of job is it detecting wetness?
Well, what you do
No, I used to think that it was like maybe two strips of metal and when water connects them it turns on
Like a light sense it is in it. Yeah, yeah
So it's software adjust. They got these cheap Bentley from somewhere
But the fact it's been doing it the area I've won this car five and a half years
And it's been like that ever since I bought it the five and a half years if they're not bothered to fix it
So this is what sort of a manual on muskies
It's left it in there just to piss you off. He is
I genuinely think that's the only reason it does it so people got something more about you
So are we keeping it in our car?
We are but we're going to stick it out of a three or six. Yeah
And and lights as well. Yeah
Auto lights. Auto lights. I couldn't if I got into a car about auto lights now
I think I'd be driving around with no lights on it
And it also means that
I think some cars probably do this
I think we should have ours basically turn on the lights if your wipers are also on
Yeah, I think the Mini and the Ford that I had last both did that a little tick box if you've got your wipers on push your lights on
Look
Fog light is on. Yep fog lights on
In this. Yeah, it's a clear day with a bit of rain
It's just a blind the person behind
I have all the things that should reset when you get in and out of the car the fog lamp that is wonderful
Don't have it as a button
Or maybe a reminder saying do you need your fog lights on still? Yeah
I've never driven more than 30 minutes in fog. If people drive around. Yeah, I'll leave the fog lights on if people drive around with the full beams
Oh god. Yeah full beam. Auto full beam. Would we keep that?
You know what?
I was going to say no
Because what I find in this
Is that it sees the reflection of a road sign and thinks it's a car and goes down. Yeah, and then back up again
But when I forgot matrix lighting gv 17. Yeah
I just I drove all the way back from north lakes to home about two hours
at night
Country roads, essentially
And I just left full beam on them the whole time because it just turned off that bit of the light
As it is amazing. It's it's it's like witchcraft. Is it? Yeah, it's watching it kind of go like that
Around the car as it drives past you was fascinating. So I think that would that would be let's let's let's let's let's not put auto full beams
Or let's put matrix layer. Yeah. Yeah, although it does mean that our car will have
Thousand pound headlights
I think it's a small price to pay
Yeah, we're saving money on the edit. You're a gas. Exactly. You're ticking that out
ticking that out
Um
What else have we got into? So are we talking about any feature? Talk about anything not just safety features
No, let's talk about
Any feature at all. Any feature touch screens
Do you know what let's
Touch screens, but well, let's elaborate a little bit the reduction of knobs
Yes, and
Switches, you know that the car that had the perfect balance for me that we recently reviewed was the insta
Yeah, it had all the climate control
Buttons. Yeah, which is what you want and dials for the temperature and
The like media and we have radio volume. Yeah. Yeah all were buttons
Oh, you have the screen was there, wasn't it and you had the touchscreen for everything else
Yep for the stuff that you only tinker when you get in the car ones
For me, perfect balance. Every other car I've had apart from a tesla has had
Uh buttons and knobs for the important things
And after a while, it's muscle memory. Yes, if I want to put the volume up or the temperature up
I can just do it without thinking about where it is and what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing straight
Yeah, I mean this this has this has that for the uh, the figure doesn't have that for the for the temperature
No
And people this is what annoys me that the tesla fanboys jump in and go
Well, you know where you just you hold on to the bottom of the screen and you know where it is
Shouldn't have to it's not like a blind man feeling his way around the room, is it?
No, and the fact that they got rid of and now brought back these
Indicator arcs for the model 3
So they're brought they're bringing it out. Have you heard they're bringing it back to the uk model 3?
Well, thank god for me. Who would who would want a car without unless unless you're driving the Ferrari
And they put the indicators on the steering wheel because it's like a formula one car
But at least they've done left and right on left and right. Yes, they have put it all on one side
I can I can get why you do the Ferrari is it is a it's you know, it's part of how the ferrari isn't it?
It's talking point the the the phrase you just get used to it
Basically is say bad marriage. Yes
Oh, no, no, you just get used to her annoying voice or his annoying voice
It gets me every so often, but you just get used to it
It's ridiculous, isn't it?
You shouldn't have to and that you know what that moves me nicely onto another thing that I really don't like
I'm going to keep the touchscreen first though
We're going to keep the touchscreen, but I want knobs basic knobs for buttons. I'm a controlling stereo that yeah, okay
Another thing through touch that really pieces me off
More than anything grinds you give maybe not as much as the speed as the speed recognition
Tesla door handles
We've got to push them to get them out
Well, and in winter we'll say model three model three and then in winter the freeze over
I've had my mind a couple of times when you have to explain to somebody how you get into a vehicle
That's not evolution. No
No point did anybody think no go
Bit of sway going on there a guy now they lost his uh thing
Uh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I know what you make and have you seen on the news recently
It's been kicking off a bit because a couple of people have died inside a Tesla
Although I think it was a model s
Or is that just because of the barb and interior because the person on the outside
Closer get open the door
So they'd crashed set on fire. I think that I presume they were unconscious
And the person from the outside couldn't get it. It was electronic. Yeah, uh, I think there is a manual way
But no one's going to know that have they if you run up to a car. No, so these are manual override there inside. Yeah, but not from the outside
So there's a lot of people saying
We shouldn't have a purely electronic
Door handles externally. Yeah, I don't mind having the button as long as you got a manual override for both sides
Well, do you like how we make her a hammer? I've got a glass breaker
But if if you're unconscious and they're outside, well like in that case
I don't know about it. I mean, yeah, I would pick up a rock and go if I ever crash him saying that though
Have you tried putting the car window through before? Well, it just bounces off and it's used the first
Yeah, you're meant to be it throw a brick at a car window at 60 70 mile an hour even these
You see, yeah, it's big. I well, they're a lot stronger than you think. Yeah
Um by design obviously, especially when the frame looks like this, I guess. Yeah
Uh, but but yeah, um
And nine dire handles
Well
Yeah, I'm gonna
You know what it's like room 101. What about what about those that present themselves?
Oh, like like a magic trick like the model s. Yeah
Oh, like the the the Mazda we just saw or the uh, you know, the other cousin where they go, do you know what?
I don't mind them as much. This is weird
We're just driving along the moment and suddenly there's like rain on one side of the road, but not the upper
Um, but because my mum
Cannot get into this car because you can't with one hand. Yeah, especially
And she's got arthritis as well. So she has to do that with pushing with one and pull it with the other
It's just not sensible, is it? Yeah, it's fixing a problem that didn't need fixing. There's a bmw there. We've had door handles
Let's just have them
Yeah, excuse me
Oh god
It basically all all i'm losing is like half a mile of range. I'm not gonna notice that. Yeah
So what we're doing now we're keeping we have in presenting we're going to get rid of
Pointless door handles. We're going to just have a standard door and the indoor. Yeah
I think indoor handles are the best because like you get the bmw. They're smooth out there, but you still got an actual handle
We're gonna have them
Oh, and you know what? We're gonna make it standard like usbc. They're all gonna have to add up
Well, we'll say that some family cars we've tested didn't have oospe in the back
Oh
So connectivity
bear in mind you've got kids family car
and uh
You just want to charge various stuff, especially get two in the back. Is that enough?
I think two's a minimum in the back. Yeah, and in the front to be fair. Yeah
A mixture just usbc
Do you still need a
Cigarette style 12 volt jack. I think there's enough people that probably use it for a dash car or something
That requires that
I think we're still keeping that then. Yeah, or maybe like a fringe if you're camping
And then some usb connectivity throughout the car. Well, I tell you what is one that I think has got my 100% approval
Carplay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
We're keeping carplay
I'm driving auto all that sort of stuff. Well, it what it does it solves the problem of crap infotainment systems
Yeah, yeah, just all you need now is a screen
Yeah, and you plug your phone in although what I would say sometimes it doesn't integrate as well as you would hope
So for example, we're talking wireless or wired either. Yeah, uh, so
Perfect example. Oh now it comes on. Oh now it's come to intermittent
Uh
What I've found is like the when I order the model s and other cars that I've tested it with
If you're using the google maps of your phone, yeah, it doesn't come up on the central display
Do you know when it gives you the yeah, it tells what you're just on that one only like the hood
Yeah, if you have a hood if you're using the built-in it says, you know in your face turn left in 100 yards
If using carplay on a lot doesn't do that
Which has got a bit of software thing
Again, okay. Yeah, unless that's whether it's apple. I don't know or android or it's the car or a bit of both
Um, so case in point. We've got a lot of standing water now. It's raining
lights need to be on
And
There's definitely people behind me. I haven't got their lights on yeah
So this is why so and I didn't appear to have its full lights. Okay, pass. This is why I guess to build. So there we go
They building
Well, it's all right. My wipers will turn off in a minute
We might have to use the uh sound
Well, do you hear on this?
No, no, they didn't like it. So I'm they're not having it down. They could have
Have ambient noise. It'll put them to sleep. Oh, they are me. Wow. This is pretty bad
perfect time to do a podcast
And I'm getting to the stage where I'm wanting fast wipers mr. Tesla. No, you're having onto me. You're not going to give me the
Speed one just five
Come on. You can do it. Yeah, you're meant to be intelligent
But uh, right, so let's go back climate control is a must. Yeah climate control is so
With climate control we've heated and cooled seats and massage seats
Anything seats tick. Yeah, I do like all them massage seats if you've you know, I thought I
I wouldn't be able to get bothered. I love them. Oh god. I had it in the ionic mine
I'm like, uh, don't look at a car four or five hours on a motorway going down to farm bro. It's like on on on
Yeah, yeah
No, definitely go for that one and heated seats and you know what heated steering wheel. Oh god. Yeah, especially in the navy. I missed that
I don't have that you know on my model three
Um, so yeah, that that that one's good and I I'm going to build in app control
App control so you can turn the heating on
from a fat
Oh, yeah, yeah
You definitely want that
I know EV's almost exclusively have it because yeah, obviously you don't need the engine on to create heat
But how nice is it to get bonus get into a car and it's already warm? Yes
Uh, so no we're definitely keeping that
Excuse me. What's um, what about excuse me?
Uh, yeah, we'll just keep going on the podcast. Yep. Don't worry. Yeah
Uh, what about uh sat nav? That's it's that needed with carplay now or it should be all in cloud
Do you know what it's not needed? But I do kind of like the
The connected the connected sat nav you get with tesla
I'll tell you where to charge. Yeah preheat the battery. Yeah
Well, I think we could get away with just some carplay
Well, tell you what that could be an optional extra on ours
They do that
Uh, so no in terms of uh
Toys have we got anything else? I mean, I'm trying to think of all the the specifications and options you have on vehicles
Oh, um, glovebox shouldn't be electronically operated from the touchscreen. No, you should have a separate handle. Yeah. Yeah, they should be full width
decent sized
yep
Vehicle to load. You know what? I think I should be standard
I can't imagine the cost of that is very high
Just an inverter, isn't it?
Probably a bit into the cat
Well, yeah, because you need ac, don't you if you're plugging the microwave into it. Yeah, yeah
So it doesn't even it's just I presume it's safety features a lot of vehicles a little useful, wouldn't it?
Well, every cast capable they're doing it
It just needs
You know you buy it or the option or the you know the little adapter thing, but yeah a three-pin plug socket
You might only use it twice a year
camping's the obvious one
But looks like doing the if you had a big garden to do in front of the house
Let's plug it into an extension just plug it in gk
But to go back then any ev could rescue any other ev
Yeah, could just turn up because oh you've run out of energy. Have you all right? Well, let's plug in for 20 minutes
We've only got you know 16 amps
But it's enough to give you two or three mile range to get you to the charge dollar row if you swear to make a chicken burger
Apple over yeah
George farming grill out
But it solves the problem of running out of energy because you could flag anyone down you could do yeah pretty much rescue you
Three-pin plug charging that everybody gives you a standard lead
Yeah that half an hour an hour on there probably enough to get you to your next point so you can charge somewhere
Oh, I've got one fire
This is just three v's
Fake noise
I'd not bother with that. What about the ionic 5n nicer or the fob fewer?
It's quite it told you what you were doing of it. So it's informative noise
I was thinking more our bath
Where you could hear it outside. All right. Well, let's split up external
Fake noise no
Internal to aid the drying now if it's done. Yeah, if you can turn it off. Why not?
Which brings us on to
Flacky paddles
They'll they say flap paddles for regen. Yep, but also for
Simulated gears. Oh like the idea. I think 5n. Yes. Oh, that was amazing
That was that was the one thing that I think that most EVs are missing
Interaction you get you can turn it off and up off with it. We're brilliant. Yep. I'm just to just regen
Yeah, just do it. There's you know, it's like I'm again the ionic nine
Regen off on the motorway
Drove into fambra regen in a full one pedal drive driving it because that's city driving. That's what you need. Yeah, so no
Yeah, definitely
Because then you don't have to do it through the truck screen. It's these buttons and knobs again, isn't it?
It's doing it without taking your eyes off the road. Yeah, which is safer much safer
And all these that's the thing in it. They're putting all these safety equipment off in
You're like great. I'm not getting more dangerous to drive because stuff's all over the place. Oh, well if you want to adjust
That's like the car. We've just been in
Didn't have any adjustment for your windscreen wipers
Except through the menu on the touchscreen. Yeah, you had to go into a touchscreen
Which imagine if he starts pacing it down and your windscreen wiper to set it off
Yeah, instead of auto or something and you've got to go in there that
It's like
There you go. Yeah, even if you press this that key you got the
That
Align well dangerous. Yeah, I'm just behind dangerous dangerous. Yeah
What about um
The noise that you make with EVs because they're so quiet, you know, oh, yeah pedestrian safety noise
I guess you have to have that
Our cars don't
No, but every other one does. Yeah
I think it's a good idea. But how many times have you followed somebody in a car park?
You've been pushing the trolley and they've not realized that you're behind them
And you too polite to be because it's going to scare the absolute crap out of them
But I've done that in petrol cars. Yeah many times as well
And let's face it a modern petrol engine is very very quiet. Yeah effects as well or well. Yeah heads
So it's not an EV specific thing
But I guess you want that one thing I would say though is that I don't like it when they do the real loud like
Keyers do they stop that no no when you're reversing. Oh, so reversing noisy
It's like so now
It's like alien
Well, the reason for that is because
What the one time launa took out that press car and came back at night because she works night shifts
She woke me up at 2 a.m. Because the first time to drive
It's like having a car with a loud exhaust. Yeah, when you go to work in the morning you're waking everyone up
And it's the same thing
It you know, I know it has to be there, but I think certain frequencies that
I mean, I don't know. I guess you've got to have a night mode
You turn it off of 10 o'clock at night. It's like why yeah
Yeah, but night things you is usually less to cars around as well, isn't there but other cars seem to have a noise
That is less noticeable
When you're asleep
Yeah, but it's a frequency or is it the odd do they have to make the frequency?
That annoying so you can hear a car reversing that's all purpose of it to warn you
So I guess it has to be purpose to be who we're trying to warn pedestrians
I presume so well. Yeah, because it's not being someone in a car. I guess
In which case then you would expect that
The I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. We've lived without AP years
I don't know how the pedestrians are going to get run over because they can't see a car reversing
Oh, you haven't seen them. They've got enough warning signs everything on the car something's behind you because
Well, yeah, I mean it makes sense, doesn't it? Oh, I do like one thing which I don't know how many manufacturers have it
But do you imagine you're parked forward in a supermarket cap? Oh, yeah, and you start to reverse and you go
Or rather, in fact, I think he has had it but he just vibrated the steering wheel
To let you know that you're reversing and you can't see someone driving on that. Yeah
So say there's a little bit
Did it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does something. It's kind of flat the screen goes red, doesn't it?
I quite like that because like I can't see what's coming. I can't see what's coming and go
What would you do?
No
But that's low speed stuff. So it's never really get it wrong, can it?
That's useful. We'll keep that it are we keeping the little hook that score does that? Oh, yeah for the
For your parking. Yeah, that's a brilliant. Yeah, brilliant idea. Curry hooks
Curry hooks are definitely in I think we have at least one per car two prefer me those preference
Oh, you might get a bit curry. You might do. Yeah, and you want to dip into one of
Follow them from curry hooks the hook you get in the boot find your bags
We're keeping them
I never use them. Do you? I think they're good if you're doing shopping. I have I have done that
So and you know what it's not like it's going to cost anything. I put one in
So I would say we keep that in the boot
Hooks and other stuff and we're going to keep a hook in the back so that people can hang the suits up
Having never used one in my life apart from when I got my partner when I got married
And we were driving up to the hotel. Hey, let's car
Yeah
But you could just lay it on the back seat. Yeah, that's what that's what you know the traveling salesman said
I use that hook all the time, but there's only you in the car
Yeah
Unless I guess you got full stuff in the boot as well all you thought a copy of stuff. Oh, yeah, brochures
Well, and again, it's a hook. It's not going to break the back. So yes, I'm going to say
We keep hooks hooks are plenty
The curry's for everything else controversial one the spare wheel
Oh
You know what I'm going to say optional extra because I feel useful if if we give us a space same. Yeah, however
I would say 90 percent of people who had a flat certainly on a motorway
But anyway
Don't have the capability or even strength to change a wheel to change a wheel
On the yet still don't do it. Oh, just don't know out. So therefore
The fact they've got one doesn't change anything other than the fact
I guess that the guy can come up and swap it for you and then you can take that tire get it fixed
You don't pay for some that's optional. I replace it. So yeah, that's why I think it's because
For what you understand the extra way of having it in the car
Costs a lot more than and like yeah, it's price of a tire or two over a few years of owning the car and
takes up space in the boot
I've got one for the tt
And it just
He's never been in that because it's not a very big boot. Is it no and it would just take up too much root
Nothing would you that
Okay, what about premium premium audio?
I guess we have to make it optional because I would absolutely I would do it for every time. Yeah
I listened to a lot of music in the car compared to anywhere else. I would say
I said no more than you else in the car. So therefore I'm like, yeah, I would want that in fact
I saw a car gv. You know the gv 60. Yeah
I saw one for 17 and a half grand and they had done 70 or 1000 miles. Remember? Yeah
And I'm like, oh
Oh, that's cheap. No premium audio. No premium audio and why not? I don't want it
I wouldn't get one of those without it because that's I thought it's I'm sorry. That's so good. Yeah, that was brilliant
so
Well, I tell you what are we bringing back any um cd players and radios some swing cars don't come with fm radios
To fly that I've got digital. I would still want fm
But did you I mean did you or your pillow dab? Well, I was that
I was either watching a review or
I was what was that? What was I listening to?
Someone said basically the bottle and it doesn't come with a digital radio either
No radio at all. That big said, well, you should use your phone app
All right, you know, I'd bbc sounds or yeah, yeah
So even the radio seems to be getting reduced. Yeah, no, I mean I like having
Dab so you can just put the radio on if you want to put music on sometimes now
You're supposed to the little bit of radio far
It should be an agent. It should be in here. I can't it's a bit weird from not to put it in it
60 well split rear seats
Yeah
I'd like rear seats that you could just easily take out for a flat loading space
Yes, that would make sense. Oh, I I'm gonna make mandatory after the insta
Sliding rear seats. Why not? Bigger boot smaller boot more space in the back. I'd be that difficult to engineer
Well, they've gone it from yeah like I do in the back
And some cars do actually have that in the back, don't they Zinny's not it's not unique
And I think that's a good idea. I think we'll we'll keep that our cars going to be awesome
But it's going to be absolutely mental, isn't it? Just tell you what then
What are we going to go for? Is it going to be a two door?
Five door saloon, you know, I'm going to do I'm going to do the Skoda thing
Everyone gets five doors
I'd also be a part in having two for most stuff anymore. It's it's not a sports car. It's a family car problem. And uh
Are we doing a state only? I think so
Because the states look nicer. Yeah, and they're more practical and they don't affect
um
like aerodynamic efficiency or anything as far as I'm aware
Um, or at least not enough for you to be a problem
And I do I do I do believe they love better
With the state season
So we've got on the state five door estate
With all the things that we've mentioned
cloth all leather seats
Or or or and all that all can tell all Alcantara or 5050. Let's go 5050 probably
I don't know Alcantara is good because you don't slip on it
Let's imagine you can only have one so you can't have options. I was gonna go Alcantara
Well, we'll we'll sod what it looks like in a couple of years
Do you know that some of the nicest seats that we've had recently anyway was probably in the Abarth 500?
Yeah, no, no the 600
They were stunning, right? They were really nice. They all Alcantara or that that sort of that sort of yeah
Is it say say about was it who am I going up here low mark? He can go
So fix our lower whatever you want low mark on the blades. So we're discussing this
It's telling you to go low mark. Let's go here. Um
Yeah
I
Leather seats look nice though. I guess Alcantara Alcantara is nice, but I just have wearing isn't it
It can go flat sometimes, but you can't I think you can brush it or something like that to get you back up again
See the trouble with leather is that they're all pleather now either. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think vegan leather
I don't mind getting like leather when it's leather. Yeah
But when it's not real leathery
Hmm
Yeah seats are in your palm pie. I forget that and full adjustability
Oh, yeah. Yeah, not just like that. The cow had just been in he had full adjustability
But the passenger couldn't go up and down which was just why is same seat? Yeah, just
Exactly even as an option. Yeah, it needs to go up and down
Renault's always been broken down
Annoying at all. No, that's the very good because of the battery was underneath
And that affected the adjustability for me and the same with the steering wheel. I want to come in in
full
Because sometimes you have to
You just can't find a nice position in some cars. I know
It's like it's good for the motorway, but then it's bad around town
or vice versa
Um, right. It's a really thing that we've missed. It's obvious. I think uh, three v's mandatory fruze frunk
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, why not? There is no reason why you can't have a boot up front
In a modern ground-up chassis evie. Yeah, and yet some of them today still don't come with one
What's he going?
He's got a smashed in front end. I wonder why
Is that a five series? Yep. I mean do you see front end? It was proper batter
I mean he's had an accident recently clearly
Um, is it a taxi?
I don't think so, but either way, I'm not gonna risk it. I'm not gonna waive at him because the chances are
Well, that we're too close to bradford for it to be
You know genuinely maybe delivery driver to city centre, you know sort of problem in it for any city centre
I just assume the running should stay away from it
There's no way you should be driving that on the road. Oh, look he's overtaking that guy as well. Is he going to go through a red?
No, he's not that brave
There he is
No, he stopped. Oh, well, there goes a break in the podcast. There we go. Yeah
But is he going to go straight on?
All right, he's in the right hand lane at the moment. And why is it got a barcode in his rear window?
No idea. You see this is brilliant, um audio stuff in it. Yeah, we're saying look at that. Look at that
Even if you're watching it, you can't see what looks like. No, you can't see it though
There's a white BMW 5 series who's battered
Who's and bullies gone straight on? No, he hasn't
He's slapped on look at the front when you go
Oh, it's speeding it's just well and truly smashed up that and it's gone into back of somebody had driven off
This is why we shouldn't do podcasts in a car. No, we get easily distracted
Uh, all right, so a little balloon in the air
So no podcasts in our car. No, is that that is that what we're saying that is that another annoyance
Uh, good if it bad and bad podcasts from cars
You know what some cars I've had like the me is terrible when you're on the phone or someone
As in they can't hear you
Very easily hold that free though. Yeah, that was like being an office. Yeah, yeah
But do you know when someone says where are you? I can barely hear you. Yeah, I'm just in the car. I'm on my hands free
And it's that sort I think some cars
No one knows you're driving and some are just terrible are they here, uh, and I've checked there's nothing wrong with it
It's just just like how it is cheap white
And bluetooth keeping that. Oh, yeah, you can't not have that can you?
um
What about oh rear controls
For the kids in the back, you know, like her climate co-educations are
Do you want your kids to to have rear heat seat not heat seats?
Basically, do you want them to adjust the the stuff? I want the option to be there and for me just be able to turn it off
Which is what you completely impulse that you could turn the screen off. Yeah, turn the screen off completely
It's not even there from to go. Oh
Yeah
So the whole test the new test the thing where you've got the like a mini version of that
I don't know
They'll they'll be changing the music. Well, the trouble is is that kids are even going to put it on high or low
Yeah, any setting in between is not going to be the right one
And there's on in so many times you can listen to the duck song. Yeah, I'll just
I'll listen to just 30 seconds of every song
It's like a next song 30 seconds of every song because no child listens to a song the whole way through noop noop
Are we have it? Oh, all right, then this would require touch screen
It's just too did so fun again. I feel like a woman
Oh
I can't put that on too much. You'll get copyright
Tesla's randomly turning on music it happened in the previous podcast. Yeah, it's house in satyr
It happens in my car quite a bit
Does anybody else have a tesla where the music just randomly turns on I find you find it
The only way to stop you doing it is to turn the volume off damn completely. It's ridiculous. It does come on. You don't know
Is that's ridiculous
I'm gonna say something then I forgot what he was. Yeah, it was for that kids
I had a good day. Oh, that was it. Um, are we allowing apps?
Like a mini app store in the car like you can have Spotify in the tesla and youtube
Netflix if it's not a bad idea
Do you know should you be able to watch something when you're not driving like charging sort of stuff?
Is that a nothing if you've got a rear screen then you should be able to put
Netflix on there
I did see a good one the other day
I saw I was parked up waiting for some of the
And there's a woman to the side of me who had a phone in the cradle just in the corner near the steering wheel
Watching the film
While she was driving
What? Yeah, and I bet you won't and this annoys me when Alice does it on her phone all the time. It wasn't even
Horizontal
It was horizontal. Oh, it was. Yeah. Wow. I wasn't I was angry but not that angry
Had it been obviously
In the portrait and done in and the smaller. Yeah, I'd have been I'd have knocked on mine, but I'll turn the phone around
So what did it feel? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah whilst driving whilst driving not charging at all. Nope
No, no. Oh my god
I guess it doesn't matter what the car has people have a thought. Yeah, just put your phone there and do what you want
Oh, do you mean?
No, it's uh
Yeah, that's that's just
Silly ridiculous all the
things
Uh, have we gone through the cat? I think we there's somewhere we've made. I'm sure there's some of you missed but people screaming on the
Two wheels drive four-wheel drive
Well, all right, we're gonna go for oh actually before we do that
Do we want an active spoiler?
Oh, well, yes, even though it's from wheel drive
Or if it's from wheel drive, we still have to have a spoiler there but I won't
Extra downforce you can press a button and it comes up and down like a carada. Yeah
Yeah, we think we are one. We're gonna have an axis. Oh, so we're getting to the like the home of simpson bubble territory now, are we?
We are
Oh, yeah, I want that. Um
Yeah, I do like a spoiler goes up when you go both
Oh, the carada
It only went up above
What was the speed?
Basically if you went your license, yeah, if it went up you was was it 72
There's one of them one the way you went above 70 mile an hour and
And then the oldest partially does that and the spoiler goes up
Which is a short fire way to know that you've broken the speed with it. Yeah, although you can manually pull it up and down
Yeah, yeah, but it seems a bit odd, doesn't it? All right. We're having a spoiler as well
So that that's not annoying. That's just uh, we have to have it. It's like, uh rocket launchers. Oh
Panoramic I'm gonna say standard. Yes, because they do brighten a cabin up substantially
What about the color? I mean, I guess you just option them, but
black is good for for for like, you know where but I kind of
Hmm, I don't know
Cream interiors I go for black or black or cream interior. Maybe even a red
Options then, you know about exterior because the thing that drives me mad is just the boring colors
like I like the mg colors
I wouldn't necessarily have them in a car
I think it's a bit just nice and bright or the a bath colors. Yeah, exactly some are bright
And I guess a few shades of silver for the Audi drivers. Yeah
but he just
When you look at a sea of beige and greys
It's kind of borrowed after a while. Yeah, I know you mean, um
But I guess is it is it still the most popular? I think greys the most popular now, isn't it? Like a dark gray
I think gun well greys. I know it used to be silver for a long time, didn't it? Yeah, um
But no, it's uh
Well, we've got a white car and a red car. What what what color are you going for next that's going to come past us?
All right. Oh, that's a white nice van
Of course
I don't think vans if we do if they do a van. It's not white. It comes in any color, but white white. Yeah
Oh, there we go a black defender on the wrong side of the road and he won't go on the grass even though he's in a defender
because yep
Oh
They come fast around here, don't they the Nora wow
All right breaks. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go for big breaks out with
Where's this sending me? I've no idea
You know, I'm gonna go the way I know
Onto the main road. Yep
So I said not when they put you on the main road, which is high no idea probably cost that's four seconds
Left left left
left
What on earth
No, we're getting distracted again Eric. Yeah, we are we're getting distracted taking as different unless it's traffic there
Ah, we should have listened to the sat-nav from it
Oh, well, well it inhibits us to finish off the podcast nicely
So we've gone from
Finding the 90s about cars to building this perfect car
Yeah, I wait what about um
Like rocket launchers and things like that, you know that that you should have as a child
I was right. Okay. I was thinking like, you know, I feel like a war zone
No, no, no, you know you're designing you got like wings all over the place and jaggedy edges
I think he wants wings all over the place. But then again, you don't want it to look like a Lamborghini, do you?
Do you want it to be
A bit angular but not too much. Well, I know we haven't done
How how will we put in in this car?
Hmm tricky one because let's face it. Yeah, I know it depends on whether so that's where we're doing a family car. That's a
250 250 is probably the meaning all wheel drive or front wheel drive or rear wheel drive
I'd prefer all wheel
Just for that all-weather sort of approach safer
And here's a good one
What tires are we going to shift with it from factory Michelle? Of course. Yeah, Michelle and an hour to cross climate threes
Yeah, I don't think anything else would fit the bill on a serious note though cross climate threes for me or cross climates in general
Have the perfect tire for the uk or I'll just say all season tires. Yeah
Why are they not shipping with cars in the uk? Why are we still getting summer tires on all?
Yeah, yeah, we're literally getting tires that are useless in winter
I see every single time we get a bit of snow or ice
People go sideways or struggling up to get get up a hill because they've got
Usually cheap ones as well. But even if they've got the stuff from the factory
All season for the uk is the optimal tire isn't it for everything?
The majority of vehicles, you know, your average car does not come with a do you think it's because they want to say well
We want, you know, we need to show off the performance the handling
What? Yeah, so they're not a cat. They're the same forget about winter. You drive this in summer you go
Oh, this is good. It's good. Great. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of loss of that. Isn't there with a little bit?
But I don't think I know most people wouldn't notice. Yeah, not at all
It's definitely something that's often missing. So if you think about it, that's costing, I know
500 to a thousand pounds on the car
It'll be less to the manufacturer obviously to that that's that's cost of the car. Yeah
So that matters for me as much as the color. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, keep adding some of the same, you know, like the
Byd seal, this is one that highlights it best. It came with branded tires
But eco tires. Yeah on the 500 brake horsepower version of the seal. Yeah
Why did they not give you tire options as a manufacturer?
You want all season. Do you want this to give you wheel options? You go on and you give me a performance ev
But you're still giving me ev tires. Yeah, like like it's a performance on it. Yeah
It's like go now. I'm tell you what I'm going to get a
A Lamborghini and we'll get some frift get some eco tires on there which binders on there
It's just going to tear them to pieces, isn't it? Well, yeah, exactly
Oh, right. So I'm thinking now we've we've done up. Have we done up a car within it?
We keep on thinking we've missing. Oh, I'm going to add something the panoramic
Um roof that we've mentioned yet the same one that a few cars have now and most recently the Renault where it
Oh, yeah, it goes opaque if you press a button. It's a button. Yeah, it's so no one can see in or out all this
We want that and you go
That was really good
a clever use of
basic tech really
Yeah, we'll keep that
security
I don't think it was gonna kick
It's mean you've made it. Yeah
I think the the fact that I mean one massive benefit of having the app, you know, like a lot of
Cars like Tesla's have where you can see the location of the car. Yeah, as they understand it
Tesla's just simply either they don't get stolen at all or they always get recovered. Yeah, because you know where it is. Yeah
What about to remember the Ford key?
And we don't know so you could buy a Ford key
And and limit it to 50 mile an hour. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yep. Yeah. I remember that you could program a key
It was uh, it had limitations to it. Yeah, like certain things were turned off
Can't turn certain limit power. Yeah limit power limit mass speed and things like all the safety features are on by default
Yeah, it's too annoying
Yeah, this is what you're gonna grow up with. That's okay. You do it now
It's gonna get worse than this
What do you think's next?
Right, so the safety features. Yeah, I mean you think you always think of a
Charlotte, it can't be anything else
Well, I guess what we've got to look at is the really expensive cars. What are they putting in now that'll trickle down to us
We're going to get one that automatically finds you when you go over the speed limit
Oh, remember the uh
Night vision that you got in the e-class years ago. Yeah, I never think I'm the thing
What did you do? Because you show you're on the dash. It was like a heads-up display, wasn't it? And it's sort of like infrared
Yeah, essentially
Right, then the goggles that they wear on the tv
So, you know say yes or whatever
Because you can see at night even if you've got no lights on and it highlights obviously body heat and animals
I guess it's just weird
Disorientating or distracting
Via headset. Yeah, you're driving
No, I think I think we're pretty much there. Yeah, we've got the security. We've got entertainment
We've got performance. We've sorted that I guess, you know
We might as well shoot for the moon and say we want really good efficiency
Yeah, so are we going for big battery?
Low efficiency a low battery bill. I think you'd would have to be given the size of a car
I'm imagining you're gonna be one what 75 80
And for it to be relatively three to four
Like Polestar efficiency. Yeah
That'd be a good one
No, there's uh, there's definitely a
Some manufacturers that ignore efficiency and some that concentrate on it. Yeah, Polestar have done a really good job on there
I'm sick of waiting for you. Um
and
Tesla have always been good at efficiency
Tesla, yeah, they have on them and they no one can argue with that for the size of the car you get
Well, look at the original Audi e-tron. Yeah. Oh god, 2019 onwards for how many years
You're getting I think the big battery version has 92 kilowatt hours
And you're getting about 200 miles out. Yeah, it's disastrous
I remember someone said his wife uses it relatively short journeys in winter. They're getting 1.8 miles per kilowatt hour. That's
crazy a massive heavy
car gen one
Anyhow officially she uses, you know, it doesn't matter how big the battery is is it to a point
I'm actually doing that many uh miles per kilowatt hour. No, so have we basically just described an older octavia
You wanted that octavia vi res estate, don't you? That's essentially what we're going for you
So because by our car getting old octavia
In my head there's some missing
How about one of those fridges in the underneath boot bit? Oh, do we want like a champagne fridge?
I'll be a be a fridge. Yeah. Do you pumps?
You end up being like a range of vests for you at this point are we where you can
Customize you can do what you want
Well, I guess because we're pretty much probably up to our time limit now
We can't go and have a moan about teenagers
Not work that wouldn't be another podcast. Well
Give me one thing then we'll end on one thing
That you find the most annoying about what say teenagers the newer generation
Without a doubt the use how they use a mobile phone or like that
But we've got a beaker phone
Yeah, so holding the phone on speakerphone and using it like a do you remember the old two piece phones where you held the
Piece to your ear and you spoke into the microphone. Well, they're walking along out there with it in front of them going
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then they hold it to the ear and then they put it to the ear and then they take it away from the ear
Yeah, yeah, that yeah, I have to say doesn't know me because it's like, you know
If you put it off speakerphone and to your ear permanently, you'll hear more. Yeah
I don't know why if you do that
But yeah, that's probably the most annoying thing
You know, I would I would probably say I agree with you or that one
Because it is baffling
Genuinely baffling. I just don't understand how we've progressed
Regressed well progressed using the phone. Then I say regressed to using it like that. Yeah
No, it winds but oh and in cars
There isn't a car made in the last 20 years that don't have bluetooth
No, why do people not you still see some people holding their foot to their ears
And you think it does come on. There is no excuse
I mean, they never asked me two or three buttons to press in the car to sink you for it doesn't take two seconds, does it?
No, no, no, no, right. Well, okay. I think we are done there. Um, and
I think we should say the one thing that is absolutely included in our cars, which we forgot to mention
The
Is the podcast on as default?
Yep, that we're on. Oh, yeah, I'm repeat
Driving on podcast and of course the membership of the main youtube channel
Does that come with each car that you buy from us? I think you get the subscription included
So you say we're 99 p.m. Up? You are. I mean to be fair it pays for yourself as a car after a while
It does indeed especially as we've gone without a big battery and efficiency
We want everything please
Four-wheel drive and good performance and all the stuff
Basically create the perfect car that doesn't exist
Or does it who knows I'll tell you what then before you give us the word
I want you to pick out of every EV we've ever reviewed the closest car to what we've just described
That's a tough one
I'm gonna say apart from the size of it the insta
The insta add buttons you could turn stuff off for shortcuts for the a-das stuff
It's going to be for the institution. You have a scenic the scenic was a good one. Yeah. Yes
Maybe it's if that if them two have a baby
The uh scenester the scenester. Yeah. Yeah
It seems to
Yes, yes, there you go. And the last word of the podcast is peacock
About this episode
Modern cars are driving enthusiasts crazy with their overbearing safety features and technology that often complicates rather than simplifies driving. The hosts share their frustrations about lane assist systems, unreliable speed limit signs, and distracting alerts. They debate the effectiveness of various features like radar-guided cruise control and automatic wipers, while reminiscing about simpler times in the automotive world. The conversation also touches on the evolution of car technology, the importance of user-friendly controls, and the need for a balance between safety and driving enjoyment.
Original notes
We all have annoyances in life, we're having a go at the modern car specs to finally settle on which features we actually want!
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