Modern Car Are Peeing Us Off!

Welcome back to driving home. Oh, and clearly what has not been filmed on our way home from any event in the same clothing that we were before

We're at the motorist, which is quite nice place. It's a nice place. I recommend coming here

Yeah, so we're just leaving the Mazda event, which is was fun. Well, you can see on the channel what the car's like

Someone had an accident. Someone banged it. Not us

So yeah, we're just basically on our way home now. So we are driving home

We are driving home and before we weren't driving home. So in the true fashion of driving home

We are a driving home and we have a topic we do which is right on

Brand for us. Yeah, annoyances as older people. Yeah. Oh god. Yeah annoyances of modern cars

Yeah

And if we run out of that, we'll just general annoyances, you know, like teenagers kids music

What's what's musical about nowadays?

Can you listen to radio one now and know any song?

Oh, I remember when music was just bang bang bang and you knew where you were. Well, yeah

I want to tune in a classic FM and get a bit of smacky bitch up. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, a bit of prodigy. Yeah, they're just

Oh, there's no

It's all

It's a basically music peaked in the 90s and 90s. It did it did for me

People just say that's a definitely night is night is in particular was a fantastic decade wasn't it? Oh, yeah

Go with the wrong way

And so no, we're gonna stick with car annoyances. So we're gonna be on that with and then young people

They don't know the bone snowflakes honestly

So doing a proper job. I think I can start with the easiest annoyance of modern

Vehicles, which was we've now made part of our review

It's in every review because you have to do is what people are like. Oh, how do you turn off?

the

lane assist aid aspect in it all the

Health and safety sort of stop you from having a crash things. I think we did perfectly all right before that

Well, the thing is it as we were talking off camera

It has to be bulletproof reliable and

Trustworthy and it's not well no

And so the previous car I had which was the Ionic 9 and this is not unique to that at all

Every time I left my village it goes from 30 to de-restricted and it never ever changed

The you know when it tells you what speed you should be doing. Yeah, yeah

They always said 30 every single night national speed limit and the big big huge

By a busher and no and they're not dirty in any way because I thought I wonder if it's something to do with that

But not it just refused to read them. So then it goes

It won't shut up because

I'm speeding as far as it is concerned and the thing is once you're driving as well to get to a point where you turn off

It's a lot of usually a lot. Oh, yeah, he's quite distracting. So that's not that's inherently not safe

Well, yeah, and imagine it did it the other way around so you're going from a de-restricted

To 30 to a 30 and it anyway. No, no, no, no, it's this when we had this with I think it was a Renault

Where it thought does it speed limit coming up and a 30 was 80?

Yeah, because it read presumably a three is an eight which isn't even a speed limit in the UK

the thing is though with with any of this if

If you're driving somewhere new and you don't know of a speed limit

Yep, and you're relying on that especially if it's city centre and and it's my ones

I mean the things when we had the Polestar it was wrong more than it was right

Yeah, I mean so that all cars do this door though even the Tesla misreads

Yeah, and and they're arguably the best in terms of autonomy autonomous technology, but

It's one of those we think I say if it's not reliable, I might turn it off. Yeah, exactly

I think unless it can be 99% actually 99.9% accurate then it's it's dangerous

And there's no point now in something you turn off repeatedly or that feels yeah, and then what they say is no no no

It's still up to you. It's you're the driver

It's in you know, you do that. I've already got a nine finger bang bang. Yeah, or it's saying we're doing 35 60

Yeah

That's gonna some people will read that and think I'm Mr. Sign. Yeah, it should have been going

Yeah, and then they might get done for speeding they might speed and do dangerous themselves

They ain't going to last or too slow. Oh, yeah doing a 30 and a 60 because the cars like 30

You know like say if you're unfamiliar and you thought hang on a minute. Is this 30 and we've all done it don't it?

I'm way you're in a new place

They might a car of its we go to have never been there before you don't know the road to talk

Yeah, even with the best care thought this would do restricted with things you look how dirty for what speed you should be doing

But I swear the amount of signs that must have been removed or not replaced

You know as reminders every so often people driving the same bit of road for 10 miles and you're going have we gone past a 30 or 40s

It's still de-restricted or and and what they also do as well is sometimes to read the sign for the road that you're passing

Yep, so you're in underextricted that'll be a side road that's 30 and it'll go right. You're at 30 now

Yep, I had 15

15 mile an hour speed limit on the A1

15 is it read the

Roadwork, oh my do you know the end? Yeah, yeah for the trucks

15 mile an hour on the A1 going it was going nuts

And and there was a 15 mile an hour sign

It was just meant not and it was clearly not meant for us because it said so beneath you know

Roadwork speed limit, but the cars aren't intelligent enough to know

So therefore I would argue that is it actually a

Net gate so it doesn't let's imagine it is not perfect, but more people are

safer than they were before this or is it the other way around and more people now in a worse position

Is it a net gain for society to have let's stick with the speed one first?

Does that help people do you think see can be useful some if it's right? I

Think it's one of those things where does it need to not only rely on?

What it can read off a sign, but also like you know Google Maps or something like that where it knows what the speed should be

Well, yeah, but then they could be tempted to go for a map. Can it I guess it's one of them, isn't it?

I mean unless it's accurate. I think it's probably

Not then you turn it off. Yeah, I mean I would

Thankfully my car doesn't have the speed now

I'm 60 this guy the Tesla thinks it's 60. What am I about to enter now at 60 so I'm in the 30 right now

You are yeah point proven

960 so I could have been all the way

It is my fault

But then what's the point of it because if that's doing this or making noise as well

Yeah, especially if you got a hood or they were where he's right in your eye line. Yeah, it's yeah

I think it is one of those that

It's not ready yet. Is it well? There's no point in having something like autopilot in the go

Look, I'm gonna drive for you, but you need to pay attention

Yeah, yeah, you're in control still you're the final say in this but imagine autopilot being the default behavior every time you get in the car

Oh, no, yeah, so you have to turn it off when you're getting not the other way around

It'd be dangerous people would say this is ridiculous. That's no different. I can see why they've done it

It's a little bit like when ABS came in I should imagine

Yeah, but that doesn't rely on external influence. That's just so it there when you need it. I guess I guess this this is trying it

It needs it's not here. Yeah, it needs to read stuff that some time at the moment

Anyway, only a person can do it like when we came back from Scotland on North Coast and it's is it the

not the

What is the mean a 90 a 9 a 9 is it sorry and it's

De-restricted for most of that, but for trucks if you would say it was 50. Yeah

Yeah, so this read it as 50 because there was a big 50 sign

But it said we have the truck symbol 50. Yeah

So this wouldn't stay at 60 on just cruise control if you like because it's like no, no, no, it's just in here

Yeah, so that's where you need a bit more than just sign reading technology. Yeah, yeah, it needs to

Interest they need to take his debt from multiple places doesn't it? Yeah

But even then if like you say if if you don't trust something

You know, it's like it's like your other half

Well, I've cheated on four people, but I'm not gonna do it anymore

Yeah, he never gonna believe that and it's you're never gonna trust that so you didn't turn it off. Yeah

With points, haven't it? Yeah, so alright. That's the speed thing. What about the lane keep assist because sometimes that has

When you get distracted, it can bounce you in the lit

I can see that as a bigger benefit to the state thing driving on

Narrow roads where you have to go over the central centre of the road because of Pat

Oh, there just isn't a line. Yeah, and it tries to pull you back in all the time

I had it before where he tried to pull me in and I would have hit a car. Oh

Yeah, or where it see it goes. You're about to have a collision. Yeah, and he's like, no, no

I'm just going around the corner and he's fine. It's fine

But I would say that is genuinely useful because there will be people that look at the phone and then they

Amit does that. Yeah, it should be using your phone

No, but that's what I mean. People do people do and ultimately I would say that is a net game technology

For cars. Yeah, he he probably

avoids more accidents than it causes. Should we say that lost big collision? I

Guess that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, because

It's pretty he doesn't have to rely on anything. I guess other than I detect something in front of it and then apply breaks if they

Yeah

And I'd like to think that no one would rely on that. You're not just gonna go well

There's no point for us in the bed pedal. No, I can't stop myself. I'm not gonna look behind me when I reverse. Yeah

So no, I would say that technology then that green ticker now

I think green ticker that one. So in our car. Do you like when Homer Simpson designed a car? Oh, that's a beautiful car

Yeah, if we're doing that. So we've got rid of the speed

Reading that's gone. That's gone. That's not even questionable. That's how the window we're keeping laying keep assist

However, I want a single button to turn it off and off which some do now have door there to be fair and which is nice

What do you have that reset every time you get in it? I

Get it whining to do that because people will turn it off if I turn it on again

Yeah, and what I would like is do you like?

Well this car the Tesla my phone's the key and a lot of cars say oh your key your seating position

Yeah, so I will remember your safety

Yeah, since that will be why not it's a profile. So if someone new gets into the car

It's just default. I feel and anyone if you say are you sure you want this always off?

That that I think is a nice about this legislation now where they can do that though, isn't it?

Oh, there is yeah

It has to be on every time you get in the car

Which is just to stop you turning it on because I guess that'll say well

You might turn it off and forget not to turn it on that soothe the manufacturer when it yeah, it's lawyers that have created this

Here really is and all right, so what's the next bit technology I'm going to say

Radar guided cruise control

Really? I think I like that. Yeah, I love it. Yeah on a boat with what I know is move that is the fact that people can't maintain a speed

It's you've been going through like a 50 or 60 set a road works

And you go why are we speeding up and down all the time?

But that the radar guided bit is infinitely more useful than just standard cruise in it

Oh, yeah, yeah, because the matter standard cruise is like I'm just creeping up on this guy

I'm just I'm gonna have to take it off and now I'll put it off

Oh, now it's sped up by two mile an hour now is good. Yeah, so that I think it's better on the motorway though

Yeah, you do that on the Starville Street. It's gonna emerge into break every so often. I won't use it on yeah

This pure motorway for me like a pilot. Yeah, it's pure motorway only

So I know I'm green to are we having that on our home car?

We're the home car, but I think just for motorways

Because you do it anywhere else and it I viewed it in the Tesla a couple of times

He doesn't have a speed limit on there speed limit is definitely good thing. We'll move on in a second. Okay

So yeah, the Tesla doesn't have that does it you can set cruise control at 30 mile an hour

But then it just seems to think that parked cars are going to pull out and attack you every so often

Yeah, you can't use anything Tesla do on

UK road it needs to be as it has in like streets especially with all the cars parked up in a bit as a fate

Don't yeah, it loses his mind

All right, well, let's move on to the speed limiter one of the best inventions of the 20th century. Yeah. All right

This is a 40 mile an hour

Roadwork zone should we say?

Set my speed limiter and I can just plant my foot I'm never gonna move of it. They're many added in there

Well, yeah, and does the me of it. I can't remember I

Know I've had quite a few cars that speed limit to put it that way

It's brilliant. Really. Yeah, because he's like right road works or speed cameras like you say

I'm an unfamiliar area the amount of schools we have to visit in the ocean. Yeah, I just left it at 30

Yeah, just just it's like a spot a poor man's

V8 our guided cruise control, but I'm in control of what the car does. It's just stopping me doing a mother should do

Yeah, yeah, so that I think

Is he's something that well, why does that not exist as a feature?

Would you like me to read the road signs and stop you going above that unless you really plant your foot?

Yeah, yeah, that would make more sense because I'm still in control

But that's gonna, you know, I kind of just avoid me from going through a speed camera or something like that

Assuming we could trust it. Yeah, yeah, 15 miles an hour

But you know, I know I think a speed limit is more useful than standard cruise control

I'd say definitely. Yeah, and my standard cruise controls I think is pretty useless because you'd never goes the speed of the car in front

So you're always either catching him up or losing him. Yeah

So no, are we keeping speed there? Keep speed limit. Keep speed limit then on the homer cat

Right, the other ones I think I think we'll just leave in things like airbags leave their bags

Automatic lights, wipers or drunk pack. It's a drunk pack. Yeah driving pack driving pack. Absolutely. Oh Mike

Do you know what though? I would say this with one caveat

Automatic headlights brilliant never had a problem with them. They always seem to work at the right times

Pat from it's foggy sometimes

Yeah, or it's raining heavily people don't hear the car don't you know if it's daylight is rain heavy

Yeah, but one thing that really annoys me particularly in this car is the automatic wipers. Oh Jesus

They've been designed by somebody who's never experienced rain. I have only been in one car as a view

Yeah, owned one car that had I would say 95% effective

Red your rain sensing wipers and that car usually came out in 1996 or 7. Yep. That was the

Persuade the 306 GTi 6. Yep

Had the best auto sensing wipers of any vehicle ever and I assume any 306 of the sims

Yeah, that's just a GTi and

Like you said, it just worked and it sped up when it needed to

We've gone back

Well, what I don't get I mean, this is this is it's a thing on Tesla groups and forums

Everyone like jokes that they wipers are useless

Even the fact that they're getting close to autonomous driving. Why can't I fix it?

Is it is it just someone at Tesla going now?

I'm gonna put people on Mars yet. They can't fix the automatic wipers in their cars. Yeah

One other slider for sensitivity. I really I was listening to an interview

On radio and they went it was I think it was Brian Cox. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah the like the universe is wonderful genius

Yeah, and basically we're right. We've got all this technology

We can see galaxies from like a million years ago

You know, we can see the edge of the galaxy see the center of the galaxy. Why can't we have lifts working all the time?

And this is anything why can't we have wipers in the world's most advanced autonomous car?

Arguably. Yeah effective if this thing goes nuts when it's barely raining and sometimes I've had to override it because you can't see

Because yeah, it's raining so hard and it's it's like on intermittent

I'm not sure what I mean. Is it a camera that does this or is it a visor the wrong way?

No, I haven't gone the wrong way. Thank God for that. We ended up in hole

No, so yeah, yeah, it is a Tesla thing and even Tesla owners joke about it. Yeah, it's terrible

For years, I don't know. I've never used the auto wipers. I'd take them off

But I I end up if you know what you're all right if it's

If it's spitting or something like that, but I do find that

If it's

Like heavy rain, I often just have to override it. Yeah. Yeah, because it makes it kind of pointless though

You might as well don't have them. I preferred the old Volkswagen one where you had

Intermittent and then four stages of intermittent and then you had on and on fast

Oh, I quite like the one with I think the same as me as this and the mini did as well where you can adjust the

Sensitive sensitivity of the rain setting, which is what this this car needs. It doesn't have that does it? No

And I'm sure it is a software option. I

Think it's using cameras. You recognize something to do with that. I don't have cameras

Do you even know how that works? How does like the Persia all those years ago?

Think out the window there and if you get wet

How does it work though? There's a little sensor in there. That's usually

Infrared us in between. Yeah, I know it's sweet. It's up. I don't does it try and see the water or detect wetness

There's not there's no like you're like two contact strips. What sort of job is it detecting wetness?

Well, what you do

No, I used to think that it was like maybe two strips of metal and when water connects them it turns on

Like a light sense it is in it. Yeah, yeah

So it's software adjust. They got these cheap Bentley from somewhere

But the fact it's been doing it the area I've won this car five and a half years

And it's been like that ever since I bought it the five and a half years if they're not bothered to fix it

So this is what sort of a manual on muskies

It's left it in there just to piss you off. He is

I genuinely think that's the only reason it does it so people got something more about you

So are we keeping it in our car?

We are but we're going to stick it out of a three or six. Yeah

And and lights as well. Yeah

Auto lights. Auto lights. I couldn't if I got into a car about auto lights now

I think I'd be driving around with no lights on it

And it also means that

I think some cars probably do this

I think we should have ours basically turn on the lights if your wipers are also on

Yeah, I think the Mini and the Ford that I had last both did that a little tick box if you've got your wipers on push your lights on

Look

Fog light is on. Yep fog lights on

In this. Yeah, it's a clear day with a bit of rain

It's just a blind the person behind

I have all the things that should reset when you get in and out of the car the fog lamp that is wonderful

Don't have it as a button

Or maybe a reminder saying do you need your fog lights on still? Yeah

I've never driven more than 30 minutes in fog. If people drive around. Yeah, I'll leave the fog lights on if people drive around with the full beams

Oh god. Yeah full beam. Auto full beam. Would we keep that?

You know what?

I was going to say no

Because what I find in this

Is that it sees the reflection of a road sign and thinks it's a car and goes down. Yeah, and then back up again

But when I forgot matrix lighting gv 17. Yeah

I just I drove all the way back from north lakes to home about two hours

at night

Country roads, essentially

And I just left full beam on them the whole time because it just turned off that bit of the light

As it is amazing. It's it's it's like witchcraft. Is it? Yeah, it's watching it kind of go like that

Around the car as it drives past you was fascinating. So I think that would that would be let's let's let's let's let's not put auto full beams

Or let's put matrix layer. Yeah. Yeah, although it does mean that our car will have

Thousand pound headlights

I think it's a small price to pay

Yeah, we're saving money on the edit. You're a gas. Exactly. You're ticking that out

ticking that out

Um

What else have we got into? So are we talking about any feature? Talk about anything not just safety features

No, let's talk about

Any feature at all. Any feature touch screens

Do you know what let's

Touch screens, but well, let's elaborate a little bit the reduction of knobs

Yes, and

Switches, you know that the car that had the perfect balance for me that we recently reviewed was the insta

Yeah, it had all the climate control

Buttons. Yeah, which is what you want and dials for the temperature and

The like media and we have radio volume. Yeah. Yeah all were buttons

Oh, you have the screen was there, wasn't it and you had the touchscreen for everything else

Yep for the stuff that you only tinker when you get in the car ones

For me, perfect balance. Every other car I've had apart from a tesla has had

Uh buttons and knobs for the important things

And after a while, it's muscle memory. Yes, if I want to put the volume up or the temperature up

I can just do it without thinking about where it is and what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing straight

Yeah, I mean this this has this has that for the uh, the figure doesn't have that for the for the temperature

No

And people this is what annoys me that the tesla fanboys jump in and go

Well, you know where you just you hold on to the bottom of the screen and you know where it is

Shouldn't have to it's not like a blind man feeling his way around the room, is it?

No, and the fact that they got rid of and now brought back these

Indicator arcs for the model 3

So they're brought they're bringing it out. Have you heard they're bringing it back to the uk model 3?

Well, thank god for me. Who would who would want a car without unless unless you're driving the Ferrari

And they put the indicators on the steering wheel because it's like a formula one car

But at least they've done left and right on left and right. Yes, they have put it all on one side

I can I can get why you do the Ferrari is it is a it's you know, it's part of how the ferrari isn't it?

It's talking point the the the phrase you just get used to it

Basically is say bad marriage. Yes

Oh, no, no, you just get used to her annoying voice or his annoying voice

It gets me every so often, but you just get used to it

It's ridiculous, isn't it?

You shouldn't have to and that you know what that moves me nicely onto another thing that I really don't like

I'm going to keep the touchscreen first though

We're going to keep the touchscreen, but I want knobs basic knobs for buttons. I'm a controlling stereo that yeah, okay

Another thing through touch that really pieces me off

More than anything grinds you give maybe not as much as the speed as the speed recognition

Tesla door handles

We've got to push them to get them out

Well, and in winter we'll say model three model three and then in winter the freeze over

I've had my mind a couple of times when you have to explain to somebody how you get into a vehicle

That's not evolution. No

No point did anybody think no go

Bit of sway going on there a guy now they lost his uh thing

Uh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I know what you make and have you seen on the news recently

It's been kicking off a bit because a couple of people have died inside a Tesla

Although I think it was a model s

Or is that just because of the barb and interior because the person on the outside

Closer get open the door

So they'd crashed set on fire. I think that I presume they were unconscious

And the person from the outside couldn't get it. It was electronic. Yeah, uh, I think there is a manual way

But no one's going to know that have they if you run up to a car. No, so these are manual override there inside. Yeah, but not from the outside

So there's a lot of people saying

We shouldn't have a purely electronic

Door handles externally. Yeah, I don't mind having the button as long as you got a manual override for both sides

Well, do you like how we make her a hammer? I've got a glass breaker

But if if you're unconscious and they're outside, well like in that case

I don't know about it. I mean, yeah, I would pick up a rock and go if I ever crash him saying that though

Have you tried putting the car window through before? Well, it just bounces off and it's used the first

Yeah, you're meant to be it throw a brick at a car window at 60 70 mile an hour even these

You see, yeah, it's big. I well, they're a lot stronger than you think. Yeah

Um by design obviously, especially when the frame looks like this, I guess. Yeah

Uh, but but yeah, um

And nine dire handles

Well

Yeah, I'm gonna

You know what it's like room 101. What about what about those that present themselves?

Oh, like like a magic trick like the model s. Yeah

Oh, like the the the Mazda we just saw or the uh, you know, the other cousin where they go, do you know what?

I don't mind them as much. This is weird

We're just driving along the moment and suddenly there's like rain on one side of the road, but not the upper

Um, but because my mum

Cannot get into this car because you can't with one hand. Yeah, especially

And she's got arthritis as well. So she has to do that with pushing with one and pull it with the other

It's just not sensible, is it? Yeah, it's fixing a problem that didn't need fixing. There's a bmw there. We've had door handles

Let's just have them

Yeah, excuse me

Oh god

It basically all all i'm losing is like half a mile of range. I'm not gonna notice that. Yeah

So what we're doing now we're keeping we have in presenting we're going to get rid of

Pointless door handles. We're going to just have a standard door and the indoor. Yeah

I think indoor handles are the best because like you get the bmw. They're smooth out there, but you still got an actual handle

We're gonna have them

Oh, and you know what? We're gonna make it standard like usbc. They're all gonna have to add up

Well, we'll say that some family cars we've tested didn't have oospe in the back

Oh

So connectivity

bear in mind you've got kids family car

and uh

You just want to charge various stuff, especially get two in the back. Is that enough?

I think two's a minimum in the back. Yeah, and in the front to be fair. Yeah

A mixture just usbc

Do you still need a

Cigarette style 12 volt jack. I think there's enough people that probably use it for a dash car or something

That requires that

I think we're still keeping that then. Yeah, or maybe like a fringe if you're camping

And then some usb connectivity throughout the car. Well, I tell you what is one that I think has got my 100% approval

Carplay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

We're keeping carplay

I'm driving auto all that sort of stuff. Well, it what it does it solves the problem of crap infotainment systems

Yeah, yeah, just all you need now is a screen

Yeah, and you plug your phone in although what I would say sometimes it doesn't integrate as well as you would hope

So for example, we're talking wireless or wired either. Yeah, uh, so

Perfect example. Oh now it comes on. Oh now it's come to intermittent

Uh

What I've found is like the when I order the model s and other cars that I've tested it with

If you're using the google maps of your phone, yeah, it doesn't come up on the central display

Do you know when it gives you the yeah, it tells what you're just on that one only like the hood

Yeah, if you have a hood if you're using the built-in it says, you know in your face turn left in 100 yards

If using carplay on a lot doesn't do that

Which has got a bit of software thing

Again, okay. Yeah, unless that's whether it's apple. I don't know or android or it's the car or a bit of both

Um, so case in point. We've got a lot of standing water now. It's raining

lights need to be on

And

There's definitely people behind me. I haven't got their lights on yeah

So this is why so and I didn't appear to have its full lights. Okay, pass. This is why I guess to build. So there we go

They building

Well, it's all right. My wipers will turn off in a minute

We might have to use the uh sound

Well, do you hear on this?

No, no, they didn't like it. So I'm they're not having it down. They could have

Have ambient noise. It'll put them to sleep. Oh, they are me. Wow. This is pretty bad

perfect time to do a podcast

And I'm getting to the stage where I'm wanting fast wipers mr. Tesla. No, you're having onto me. You're not going to give me the

Speed one just five

Come on. You can do it. Yeah, you're meant to be intelligent

But uh, right, so let's go back climate control is a must. Yeah climate control is so

With climate control we've heated and cooled seats and massage seats

Anything seats tick. Yeah, I do like all them massage seats if you've you know, I thought I

I wouldn't be able to get bothered. I love them. Oh god. I had it in the ionic mine

I'm like, uh, don't look at a car four or five hours on a motorway going down to farm bro. It's like on on on

Yeah, yeah

No, definitely go for that one and heated seats and you know what heated steering wheel. Oh god. Yeah, especially in the navy. I missed that

I don't have that you know on my model three

Um, so yeah, that that that one's good and I I'm going to build in app control

App control so you can turn the heating on

from a fat

Oh, yeah, yeah

You definitely want that

I know EV's almost exclusively have it because yeah, obviously you don't need the engine on to create heat

But how nice is it to get bonus get into a car and it's already warm? Yes

Uh, so no we're definitely keeping that

Excuse me. What's um, what about excuse me?

Uh, yeah, we'll just keep going on the podcast. Yep. Don't worry. Yeah

Uh, what about uh sat nav? That's it's that needed with carplay now or it should be all in cloud

Do you know what it's not needed? But I do kind of like the

The connected the connected sat nav you get with tesla

I'll tell you where to charge. Yeah preheat the battery. Yeah

Well, I think we could get away with just some carplay

Well, tell you what that could be an optional extra on ours

They do that

Uh, so no in terms of uh

Toys have we got anything else? I mean, I'm trying to think of all the the specifications and options you have on vehicles

Oh, um, glovebox shouldn't be electronically operated from the touchscreen. No, you should have a separate handle. Yeah. Yeah, they should be full width

decent sized

yep

Vehicle to load. You know what? I think I should be standard

I can't imagine the cost of that is very high

Just an inverter, isn't it?

Probably a bit into the cat

Well, yeah, because you need ac, don't you if you're plugging the microwave into it. Yeah, yeah

So it doesn't even it's just I presume it's safety features a lot of vehicles a little useful, wouldn't it?

Well, every cast capable they're doing it

It just needs

You know you buy it or the option or the you know the little adapter thing, but yeah a three-pin plug socket

You might only use it twice a year

camping's the obvious one

But looks like doing the if you had a big garden to do in front of the house

Let's plug it into an extension just plug it in gk

But to go back then any ev could rescue any other ev

Yeah, could just turn up because oh you've run out of energy. Have you all right? Well, let's plug in for 20 minutes

We've only got you know 16 amps

But it's enough to give you two or three mile range to get you to the charge dollar row if you swear to make a chicken burger

Apple over yeah

George farming grill out

But it solves the problem of running out of energy because you could flag anyone down you could do yeah pretty much rescue you

Three-pin plug charging that everybody gives you a standard lead

Yeah that half an hour an hour on there probably enough to get you to your next point so you can charge somewhere

Oh, I've got one fire

This is just three v's

Fake noise

I'd not bother with that. What about the ionic 5n nicer or the fob fewer?

It's quite it told you what you were doing of it. So it's informative noise

I was thinking more our bath

Where you could hear it outside. All right. Well, let's split up external

Fake noise no

Internal to aid the drying now if it's done. Yeah, if you can turn it off. Why not?

Which brings us on to

Flacky paddles

They'll they say flap paddles for regen. Yep, but also for

Simulated gears. Oh like the idea. I think 5n. Yes. Oh, that was amazing

That was that was the one thing that I think that most EVs are missing

Interaction you get you can turn it off and up off with it. We're brilliant. Yep. I'm just to just regen

Yeah, just do it. There's you know, it's like I'm again the ionic nine

Regen off on the motorway

Drove into fambra regen in a full one pedal drive driving it because that's city driving. That's what you need. Yeah, so no

Yeah, definitely

Because then you don't have to do it through the truck screen. It's these buttons and knobs again, isn't it?

It's doing it without taking your eyes off the road. Yeah, which is safer much safer

And all these that's the thing in it. They're putting all these safety equipment off in

You're like great. I'm not getting more dangerous to drive because stuff's all over the place. Oh, well if you want to adjust

That's like the car. We've just been in

Didn't have any adjustment for your windscreen wipers

Except through the menu on the touchscreen. Yeah, you had to go into a touchscreen

Which imagine if he starts pacing it down and your windscreen wiper to set it off

Yeah, instead of auto or something and you've got to go in there that

It's like

There you go. Yeah, even if you press this that key you got the

That

Align well dangerous. Yeah, I'm just behind dangerous dangerous. Yeah

What about um

The noise that you make with EVs because they're so quiet, you know, oh, yeah pedestrian safety noise

I guess you have to have that

Our cars don't

No, but every other one does. Yeah

I think it's a good idea. But how many times have you followed somebody in a car park?

You've been pushing the trolley and they've not realized that you're behind them

And you too polite to be because it's going to scare the absolute crap out of them

But I've done that in petrol cars. Yeah many times as well

And let's face it a modern petrol engine is very very quiet. Yeah effects as well or well. Yeah heads

So it's not an EV specific thing

But I guess you want that one thing I would say though is that I don't like it when they do the real loud like

Keyers do they stop that no no when you're reversing. Oh, so reversing noisy

It's like so now

It's like alien

Well, the reason for that is because

What the one time launa took out that press car and came back at night because she works night shifts

She woke me up at 2 a.m. Because the first time to drive

It's like having a car with a loud exhaust. Yeah, when you go to work in the morning you're waking everyone up

And it's the same thing

It you know, I know it has to be there, but I think certain frequencies that

I mean, I don't know. I guess you've got to have a night mode

You turn it off of 10 o'clock at night. It's like why yeah

Yeah, but night things you is usually less to cars around as well, isn't there but other cars seem to have a noise

That is less noticeable

When you're asleep

Yeah, but it's a frequency or is it the odd do they have to make the frequency?

That annoying so you can hear a car reversing that's all purpose of it to warn you

So I guess it has to be purpose to be who we're trying to warn pedestrians

I presume so well. Yeah, because it's not being someone in a car. I guess

In which case then you would expect that

The I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. We've lived without AP years

I don't know how the pedestrians are going to get run over because they can't see a car reversing

Oh, you haven't seen them. They've got enough warning signs everything on the car something's behind you because

Well, yeah, I mean it makes sense, doesn't it? Oh, I do like one thing which I don't know how many manufacturers have it

But do you imagine you're parked forward in a supermarket cap? Oh, yeah, and you start to reverse and you go

Or rather, in fact, I think he has had it but he just vibrated the steering wheel

To let you know that you're reversing and you can't see someone driving on that. Yeah

So say there's a little bit

Did it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does something. It's kind of flat the screen goes red, doesn't it?

I quite like that because like I can't see what's coming. I can't see what's coming and go

What would you do?

No

But that's low speed stuff. So it's never really get it wrong, can it?

That's useful. We'll keep that it are we keeping the little hook that score does that? Oh, yeah for the

For your parking. Yeah, that's a brilliant. Yeah, brilliant idea. Curry hooks

Curry hooks are definitely in I think we have at least one per car two prefer me those preference

Oh, you might get a bit curry. You might do. Yeah, and you want to dip into one of

Follow them from curry hooks the hook you get in the boot find your bags

We're keeping them

I never use them. Do you? I think they're good if you're doing shopping. I have I have done that

So and you know what it's not like it's going to cost anything. I put one in

So I would say we keep that in the boot

Hooks and other stuff and we're going to keep a hook in the back so that people can hang the suits up

Having never used one in my life apart from when I got my partner when I got married

And we were driving up to the hotel. Hey, let's car

Yeah

But you could just lay it on the back seat. Yeah, that's what that's what you know the traveling salesman said

I use that hook all the time, but there's only you in the car

Yeah

Unless I guess you got full stuff in the boot as well all you thought a copy of stuff. Oh, yeah, brochures

Well, and again, it's a hook. It's not going to break the back. So yes, I'm going to say

We keep hooks hooks are plenty

The curry's for everything else controversial one the spare wheel

Oh

You know what I'm going to say optional extra because I feel useful if if we give us a space same. Yeah, however

I would say 90 percent of people who had a flat certainly on a motorway

But anyway

Don't have the capability or even strength to change a wheel to change a wheel

On the yet still don't do it. Oh, just don't know out. So therefore

The fact they've got one doesn't change anything other than the fact

I guess that the guy can come up and swap it for you and then you can take that tire get it fixed

You don't pay for some that's optional. I replace it. So yeah, that's why I think it's because

For what you understand the extra way of having it in the car

Costs a lot more than and like yeah, it's price of a tire or two over a few years of owning the car and

takes up space in the boot

I've got one for the tt

And it just

He's never been in that because it's not a very big boot. Is it no and it would just take up too much root

Nothing would you that

Okay, what about premium premium audio?

I guess we have to make it optional because I would absolutely I would do it for every time. Yeah

I listened to a lot of music in the car compared to anywhere else. I would say

I said no more than you else in the car. So therefore I'm like, yeah, I would want that in fact

I saw a car gv. You know the gv 60. Yeah

I saw one for 17 and a half grand and they had done 70 or 1000 miles. Remember? Yeah

And I'm like, oh

Oh, that's cheap. No premium audio. No premium audio and why not? I don't want it

I wouldn't get one of those without it because that's I thought it's I'm sorry. That's so good. Yeah, that was brilliant

so

Well, I tell you what are we bringing back any um cd players and radios some swing cars don't come with fm radios

To fly that I've got digital. I would still want fm

But did you I mean did you or your pillow dab? Well, I was that

I was either watching a review or

I was what was that? What was I listening to?

Someone said basically the bottle and it doesn't come with a digital radio either

No radio at all. That big said, well, you should use your phone app

All right, you know, I'd bbc sounds or yeah, yeah

So even the radio seems to be getting reduced. Yeah, no, I mean I like having

Dab so you can just put the radio on if you want to put music on sometimes now

You're supposed to the little bit of radio far

It should be an agent. It should be in here. I can't it's a bit weird from not to put it in it

60 well split rear seats

Yeah

I'd like rear seats that you could just easily take out for a flat loading space

Yes, that would make sense. Oh, I I'm gonna make mandatory after the insta

Sliding rear seats. Why not? Bigger boot smaller boot more space in the back. I'd be that difficult to engineer

Well, they've gone it from yeah like I do in the back

And some cars do actually have that in the back, don't they Zinny's not it's not unique

And I think that's a good idea. I think we'll we'll keep that our cars going to be awesome

But it's going to be absolutely mental, isn't it? Just tell you what then

What are we going to go for? Is it going to be a two door?

Five door saloon, you know, I'm going to do I'm going to do the Skoda thing

Everyone gets five doors

I'd also be a part in having two for most stuff anymore. It's it's not a sports car. It's a family car problem. And uh

Are we doing a state only? I think so

Because the states look nicer. Yeah, and they're more practical and they don't affect

um

like aerodynamic efficiency or anything as far as I'm aware

Um, or at least not enough for you to be a problem

And I do I do I do believe they love better

With the state season

So we've got on the state five door estate

With all the things that we've mentioned

cloth all leather seats

Or or or and all that all can tell all Alcantara or 5050. Let's go 5050 probably

I don't know Alcantara is good because you don't slip on it

Let's imagine you can only have one so you can't have options. I was gonna go Alcantara

Well, we'll we'll sod what it looks like in a couple of years

Do you know that some of the nicest seats that we've had recently anyway was probably in the Abarth 500?

Yeah, no, no the 600

They were stunning, right? They were really nice. They all Alcantara or that that sort of that sort of yeah

Is it say say about was it who am I going up here low mark? He can go

So fix our lower whatever you want low mark on the blades. So we're discussing this

It's telling you to go low mark. Let's go here. Um

Yeah

I

Leather seats look nice though. I guess Alcantara Alcantara is nice, but I just have wearing isn't it

It can go flat sometimes, but you can't I think you can brush it or something like that to get you back up again

See the trouble with leather is that they're all pleather now either. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think vegan leather

I don't mind getting like leather when it's leather. Yeah

But when it's not real leathery

Hmm

Yeah seats are in your palm pie. I forget that and full adjustability

Oh, yeah. Yeah, not just like that. The cow had just been in he had full adjustability

But the passenger couldn't go up and down which was just why is same seat? Yeah, just

Exactly even as an option. Yeah, it needs to go up and down

Renault's always been broken down

Annoying at all. No, that's the very good because of the battery was underneath

And that affected the adjustability for me and the same with the steering wheel. I want to come in in

full

Because sometimes you have to

You just can't find a nice position in some cars. I know

It's like it's good for the motorway, but then it's bad around town

or vice versa

Um, right. It's a really thing that we've missed. It's obvious. I think uh, three v's mandatory fruze frunk

Yeah

Yeah, yeah, why not? There is no reason why you can't have a boot up front

In a modern ground-up chassis evie. Yeah, and yet some of them today still don't come with one

What's he going?

He's got a smashed in front end. I wonder why

Is that a five series? Yep. I mean do you see front end? It was proper batter

I mean he's had an accident recently clearly

Um, is it a taxi?

I don't think so, but either way, I'm not gonna risk it. I'm not gonna waive at him because the chances are

Well, that we're too close to bradford for it to be

You know genuinely maybe delivery driver to city centre, you know sort of problem in it for any city centre

I just assume the running should stay away from it

There's no way you should be driving that on the road. Oh, look he's overtaking that guy as well. Is he going to go through a red?

No, he's not that brave

There he is

No, he stopped. Oh, well, there goes a break in the podcast. There we go. Yeah

But is he going to go straight on?

All right, he's in the right hand lane at the moment. And why is it got a barcode in his rear window?

No idea. You see this is brilliant, um audio stuff in it. Yeah, we're saying look at that. Look at that

Even if you're watching it, you can't see what looks like. No, you can't see it though

There's a white BMW 5 series who's battered

Who's and bullies gone straight on? No, he hasn't

He's slapped on look at the front when you go

Oh, it's speeding it's just well and truly smashed up that and it's gone into back of somebody had driven off

This is why we shouldn't do podcasts in a car. No, we get easily distracted

Uh, all right, so a little balloon in the air

So no podcasts in our car. No, is that that is that what we're saying that is that another annoyance

Uh, good if it bad and bad podcasts from cars

You know what some cars I've had like the me is terrible when you're on the phone or someone

As in they can't hear you

Very easily hold that free though. Yeah, that was like being an office. Yeah, yeah

But do you know when someone says where are you? I can barely hear you. Yeah, I'm just in the car. I'm on my hands free

And it's that sort I think some cars

No one knows you're driving and some are just terrible are they here, uh, and I've checked there's nothing wrong with it

It's just just like how it is cheap white

And bluetooth keeping that. Oh, yeah, you can't not have that can you?

um

What about oh rear controls

For the kids in the back, you know, like her climate co-educations are

Do you want your kids to to have rear heat seat not heat seats?

Basically, do you want them to adjust the the stuff? I want the option to be there and for me just be able to turn it off

Which is what you completely impulse that you could turn the screen off. Yeah, turn the screen off completely

It's not even there from to go. Oh

Yeah

So the whole test the new test the thing where you've got the like a mini version of that

I don't know

They'll they'll be changing the music. Well, the trouble is is that kids are even going to put it on high or low

Yeah, any setting in between is not going to be the right one

And there's on in so many times you can listen to the duck song. Yeah, I'll just

I'll listen to just 30 seconds of every song

It's like a next song 30 seconds of every song because no child listens to a song the whole way through noop noop

Are we have it? Oh, all right, then this would require touch screen

It's just too did so fun again. I feel like a woman

Oh

I can't put that on too much. You'll get copyright

Tesla's randomly turning on music it happened in the previous podcast. Yeah, it's house in satyr

It happens in my car quite a bit

Does anybody else have a tesla where the music just randomly turns on I find you find it

The only way to stop you doing it is to turn the volume off damn completely. It's ridiculous. It does come on. You don't know

Is that's ridiculous

I'm gonna say something then I forgot what he was. Yeah, it was for that kids

I had a good day. Oh, that was it. Um, are we allowing apps?

Like a mini app store in the car like you can have Spotify in the tesla and youtube

Netflix if it's not a bad idea

Do you know should you be able to watch something when you're not driving like charging sort of stuff?

Is that a nothing if you've got a rear screen then you should be able to put

Netflix on there

I did see a good one the other day

I saw I was parked up waiting for some of the

And there's a woman to the side of me who had a phone in the cradle just in the corner near the steering wheel

Watching the film

While she was driving

What? Yeah, and I bet you won't and this annoys me when Alice does it on her phone all the time. It wasn't even

Horizontal

It was horizontal. Oh, it was. Yeah. Wow. I wasn't I was angry but not that angry

Had it been obviously

In the portrait and done in and the smaller. Yeah, I'd have been I'd have knocked on mine, but I'll turn the phone around

So what did it feel? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah whilst driving whilst driving not charging at all. Nope

No, no. Oh my god

I guess it doesn't matter what the car has people have a thought. Yeah, just put your phone there and do what you want

Oh, do you mean?

No, it's uh

Yeah, that's that's just

Silly ridiculous all the

things

Uh, have we gone through the cat? I think we there's somewhere we've made. I'm sure there's some of you missed but people screaming on the

Two wheels drive four-wheel drive

Well, all right, we're gonna go for oh actually before we do that

Do we want an active spoiler?

Oh, well, yes, even though it's from wheel drive

Or if it's from wheel drive, we still have to have a spoiler there but I won't

Extra downforce you can press a button and it comes up and down like a carada. Yeah

Yeah, we think we are one. We're gonna have an axis. Oh, so we're getting to the like the home of simpson bubble territory now, are we?

We are

Oh, yeah, I want that. Um

Yeah, I do like a spoiler goes up when you go both

Oh, the carada

It only went up above

What was the speed?

Basically if you went your license, yeah, if it went up you was was it 72

There's one of them one the way you went above 70 mile an hour and

And then the oldest partially does that and the spoiler goes up

Which is a short fire way to know that you've broken the speed with it. Yeah, although you can manually pull it up and down

Yeah, yeah, but it seems a bit odd, doesn't it? All right. We're having a spoiler as well

So that that's not annoying. That's just uh, we have to have it. It's like, uh rocket launchers. Oh

Panoramic I'm gonna say standard. Yes, because they do brighten a cabin up substantially

What about the color? I mean, I guess you just option them, but

black is good for for for like, you know where but I kind of

Hmm, I don't know

Cream interiors I go for black or black or cream interior. Maybe even a red

Options then, you know about exterior because the thing that drives me mad is just the boring colors

like I like the mg colors

I wouldn't necessarily have them in a car

I think it's a bit just nice and bright or the a bath colors. Yeah, exactly some are bright

And I guess a few shades of silver for the Audi drivers. Yeah

but he just

When you look at a sea of beige and greys

It's kind of borrowed after a while. Yeah, I know you mean, um

But I guess is it is it still the most popular? I think greys the most popular now, isn't it? Like a dark gray

I think gun well greys. I know it used to be silver for a long time, didn't it? Yeah, um

But no, it's uh

Well, we've got a white car and a red car. What what what color are you going for next that's going to come past us?

All right. Oh, that's a white nice van

Of course

I don't think vans if we do if they do a van. It's not white. It comes in any color, but white white. Yeah

Oh, there we go a black defender on the wrong side of the road and he won't go on the grass even though he's in a defender

because yep

Oh

They come fast around here, don't they the Nora wow

All right breaks. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go for big breaks out with

Where's this sending me? I've no idea

You know, I'm gonna go the way I know

Onto the main road. Yep

So I said not when they put you on the main road, which is high no idea probably cost that's four seconds

Left left left

left

What on earth

No, we're getting distracted again Eric. Yeah, we are we're getting distracted taking as different unless it's traffic there

Ah, we should have listened to the sat-nav from it

Oh, well, well it inhibits us to finish off the podcast nicely

So we've gone from

Finding the 90s about cars to building this perfect car

Yeah, I wait what about um

Like rocket launchers and things like that, you know that that you should have as a child

I was right. Okay. I was thinking like, you know, I feel like a war zone

No, no, no, you know you're designing you got like wings all over the place and jaggedy edges

I think he wants wings all over the place. But then again, you don't want it to look like a Lamborghini, do you?

Do you want it to be

A bit angular but not too much. Well, I know we haven't done

How how will we put in in this car?

Hmm tricky one because let's face it. Yeah, I know it depends on whether so that's where we're doing a family car. That's a

250 250 is probably the meaning all wheel drive or front wheel drive or rear wheel drive

I'd prefer all wheel

Just for that all-weather sort of approach safer

And here's a good one

What tires are we going to shift with it from factory Michelle? Of course. Yeah, Michelle and an hour to cross climate threes

Yeah, I don't think anything else would fit the bill on a serious note though cross climate threes for me or cross climates in general

Have the perfect tire for the uk or I'll just say all season tires. Yeah

Why are they not shipping with cars in the uk? Why are we still getting summer tires on all?

Yeah, yeah, we're literally getting tires that are useless in winter

I see every single time we get a bit of snow or ice

People go sideways or struggling up to get get up a hill because they've got

Usually cheap ones as well. But even if they've got the stuff from the factory

All season for the uk is the optimal tire isn't it for everything?

The majority of vehicles, you know, your average car does not come with a do you think it's because they want to say well

We want, you know, we need to show off the performance the handling

What? Yeah, so they're not a cat. They're the same forget about winter. You drive this in summer you go

Oh, this is good. It's good. Great. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of loss of that. Isn't there with a little bit?

But I don't think I know most people wouldn't notice. Yeah, not at all

It's definitely something that's often missing. So if you think about it, that's costing, I know

500 to a thousand pounds on the car

It'll be less to the manufacturer obviously to that that's that's cost of the car. Yeah

So that matters for me as much as the color. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, keep adding some of the same, you know, like the

Byd seal, this is one that highlights it best. It came with branded tires

But eco tires. Yeah on the 500 brake horsepower version of the seal. Yeah

Why did they not give you tire options as a manufacturer?

You want all season. Do you want this to give you wheel options? You go on and you give me a performance ev

But you're still giving me ev tires. Yeah, like like it's a performance on it. Yeah

It's like go now. I'm tell you what I'm going to get a

A Lamborghini and we'll get some frift get some eco tires on there which binders on there

It's just going to tear them to pieces, isn't it? Well, yeah, exactly

Oh, right. So I'm thinking now we've we've done up. Have we done up a car within it?

We keep on thinking we've missing. Oh, I'm going to add something the panoramic

Um roof that we've mentioned yet the same one that a few cars have now and most recently the Renault where it

Oh, yeah, it goes opaque if you press a button. It's a button. Yeah, it's so no one can see in or out all this

We want that and you go

That was really good

a clever use of

basic tech really

Yeah, we'll keep that

security

I don't think it was gonna kick

It's mean you've made it. Yeah

I think the the fact that I mean one massive benefit of having the app, you know, like a lot of

Cars like Tesla's have where you can see the location of the car. Yeah, as they understand it

Tesla's just simply either they don't get stolen at all or they always get recovered. Yeah, because you know where it is. Yeah

What about to remember the Ford key?

And we don't know so you could buy a Ford key

And and limit it to 50 mile an hour. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yep. Yeah. I remember that you could program a key

It was uh, it had limitations to it. Yeah, like certain things were turned off

Can't turn certain limit power. Yeah limit power limit mass speed and things like all the safety features are on by default

Yeah, it's too annoying

Yeah, this is what you're gonna grow up with. That's okay. You do it now

It's gonna get worse than this

What do you think's next?

Right, so the safety features. Yeah, I mean you think you always think of a

Charlotte, it can't be anything else

Well, I guess what we've got to look at is the really expensive cars. What are they putting in now that'll trickle down to us

We're going to get one that automatically finds you when you go over the speed limit

Oh, remember the uh

Night vision that you got in the e-class years ago. Yeah, I never think I'm the thing

What did you do? Because you show you're on the dash. It was like a heads-up display, wasn't it? And it's sort of like infrared

Yeah, essentially

Right, then the goggles that they wear on the tv

So, you know say yes or whatever

Because you can see at night even if you've got no lights on and it highlights obviously body heat and animals

I guess it's just weird

Disorientating or distracting

Via headset. Yeah, you're driving

No, I think I think we're pretty much there. Yeah, we've got the security. We've got entertainment

We've got performance. We've sorted that I guess, you know

We might as well shoot for the moon and say we want really good efficiency

Yeah, so are we going for big battery?

Low efficiency a low battery bill. I think you'd would have to be given the size of a car

I'm imagining you're gonna be one what 75 80

And for it to be relatively three to four

Like Polestar efficiency. Yeah

That'd be a good one

No, there's uh, there's definitely a

Some manufacturers that ignore efficiency and some that concentrate on it. Yeah, Polestar have done a really good job on there

I'm sick of waiting for you. Um

and

Tesla have always been good at efficiency

Tesla, yeah, they have on them and they no one can argue with that for the size of the car you get

Well, look at the original Audi e-tron. Yeah. Oh god, 2019 onwards for how many years

You're getting I think the big battery version has 92 kilowatt hours

And you're getting about 200 miles out. Yeah, it's disastrous

I remember someone said his wife uses it relatively short journeys in winter. They're getting 1.8 miles per kilowatt hour. That's

crazy a massive heavy

car gen one

Anyhow officially she uses, you know, it doesn't matter how big the battery is is it to a point

I'm actually doing that many uh miles per kilowatt hour. No, so have we basically just described an older octavia

You wanted that octavia vi res estate, don't you? That's essentially what we're going for you

So because by our car getting old octavia

In my head there's some missing

How about one of those fridges in the underneath boot bit? Oh, do we want like a champagne fridge?

I'll be a be a fridge. Yeah. Do you pumps?

You end up being like a range of vests for you at this point are we where you can

Customize you can do what you want

Well, I guess because we're pretty much probably up to our time limit now

We can't go and have a moan about teenagers

Not work that wouldn't be another podcast. Well

Give me one thing then we'll end on one thing

That you find the most annoying about what say teenagers the newer generation

Without a doubt the use how they use a mobile phone or like that

But we've got a beaker phone

Yeah, so holding the phone on speakerphone and using it like a do you remember the old two piece phones where you held the

Piece to your ear and you spoke into the microphone. Well, they're walking along out there with it in front of them going

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then they hold it to the ear and then they put it to the ear and then they take it away from the ear

Yeah, yeah, that yeah, I have to say doesn't know me because it's like, you know

If you put it off speakerphone and to your ear permanently, you'll hear more. Yeah

I don't know why if you do that

But yeah, that's probably the most annoying thing

You know, I would I would probably say I agree with you or that one

Because it is baffling

Genuinely baffling. I just don't understand how we've progressed

Regressed well progressed using the phone. Then I say regressed to using it like that. Yeah

No, it winds but oh and in cars

There isn't a car made in the last 20 years that don't have bluetooth

No, why do people not you still see some people holding their foot to their ears

And you think it does come on. There is no excuse

I mean, they never asked me two or three buttons to press in the car to sink you for it doesn't take two seconds, does it?

No, no, no, no, right. Well, okay. I think we are done there. Um, and

I think we should say the one thing that is absolutely included in our cars, which we forgot to mention

The

Is the podcast on as default?

Yep, that we're on. Oh, yeah, I'm repeat

Driving on podcast and of course the membership of the main youtube channel

Does that come with each car that you buy from us? I think you get the subscription included

So you say we're 99 p.m. Up? You are. I mean to be fair it pays for yourself as a car after a while

It does indeed especially as we've gone without a big battery and efficiency

We want everything please

Four-wheel drive and good performance and all the stuff

Basically create the perfect car that doesn't exist

Or does it who knows I'll tell you what then before you give us the word

I want you to pick out of every EV we've ever reviewed the closest car to what we've just described

That's a tough one

I'm gonna say apart from the size of it the insta

The insta add buttons you could turn stuff off for shortcuts for the a-das stuff

It's going to be for the institution. You have a scenic the scenic was a good one. Yeah. Yes

Maybe it's if that if them two have a baby

The uh scenester the scenester. Yeah. Yeah

It seems to

Yes, yes, there you go. And the last word of the podcast is peacock

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