I can’t tell what “Seagull” refers to as a car from the snippet you provided. It might be a nickname or something else mentioned in the podcast. If you share a bit more context, I can explain the correct vehicle.
A street course is a race run on regular city streets that get temporarily turned into a track. Since it’s not a purpose-built racing surface, grip can be lower and less consistent, so driving technique and car response matter a lot.
Push to pass is a race feature that gives a driver extra power for a short time. It’s meant to help with passing, so if someone can’t use it, it’s tougher to overtake.
A twin-turbo V6 is an engine with six cylinders arranged in a V shape, plus two turbochargers. The turbos help the engine make more power and respond better when you press the throttle.
Drivability is how easy it is to drive the car smoothly—especially when you’re turning and then pressing the gas. A car with good drivability lets the driver power out of corners without it feeling jerky or losing traction.
Engine response is how quickly the car reacts when you press the gas. Better response means the power comes in when you ask for it, which helps you drive more precisely out of corners.
The throttle is the pedal you press to tell the engine how much power you want. In many race cars, computers also control how quickly the engine responds after you press it.
This describes how engine control software can “shape” the power delivery after you request throttle—using a gradual curve instead of an immediate step. In racing, that can improve traction and stability by reducing wheelspin or sudden loss of grip when exiting slow corners.
Torque is the engine’s pulling force that helps the car get moving. More torque at the right time usually means better acceleration out of slow corners.
Fuel economy just means the car uses less fuel to go the same distance. If you can stretch your fuel longer, you can often pit less, which can help you stay ahead.
The Indy 500 is one of the biggest races in IndyCar. Here it’s used to show that saving fuel and planning pit stops can decide the race, not just outright speed.
Fuel saving means driving in a way that uses less gas than normal. In racing, that can let you go farther before you have to pit, which can be a big advantage.
A caution is when the race slows down because of something on the track. When that happens, teams can adjust their pit timing and fuel plans because the cars aren’t going as fast.
In engine/vehicle performance talk, “top end” means how strong the car feels at higher speeds or higher RPM. The host is contrasting it with other performance bands to argue that one manufacturer’s strengths don’t fully decide races when fuel strategy and other attributes come into play.
“Mid range” means how the car feels in the middle of its revs/speed range. It’s basically the part of the performance where you’re not just idling or at maximum speed.
The Dodge Charger is a performance car that looks like a regular sedan but is built to go fast. People talk about it a lot in racing because it has strong acceleration. It’s the kind of car that’s meant to be driven hard.
Detroit is being used to mean the IndyCar race run on city streets. Street tracks are tight and bumpy with walls close by, so it’s harder to learn quickly and easier to make mistakes.
Car
porsche penske motorsport in the 963
This is talking about a specific Porsche race car, the Porsche 963. The host is saying Nazar has experience with that kind of top-level endurance racing equipment, which matters when he’s asked to jump into a new situation quickly.
A pace car is a car that leads the race at a slower, controlled speed when there’s an incident or caution. It changes how drivers can push and when they can accelerate safely.
A backup car is an extra race car the team has ready in case the main car gets damaged. If something breaks, they can switch to the spare so the driver can still race.
Gateway refers to Gateway Motorsports Park in Illinois, which IndyCar uses for road-course-style racing. It’s a track where braking zones and traction out of slower corners can be decisive.
A disqualification means the race officials decide the result doesn’t count. Even if the driver was fast, the team can lose points and finishing position because of a rules problem.
Andretti is a big IndyCar team. The host is basically saying it’s not as consistently competitive as the very top teams right now, but it has money and resources.
In this context, “toe” means the pull you get from the car ahead—like drafting. Drivers may weave to make it harder for the other car to benefit from that pull.
A slingshot pass is when the car behind gains speed by drafting, then shoots forward to pass once it has enough momentum. It’s like using the lead car as a moving “air shield.”
Mick Schumacher is a professional race car driver. In this segment, he’s mentioned because he hit the wall at Turn 1, which caused the race to slow down.
Aerodynamics is how the car’s shape interacts with air. In racing, it affects how much traction the car has and how easily you can run close to another car.
A restart is when the race starts running at full speed again after being slowed or stopped. Who’s in front and how close the cars are can make it easier—or harder—to pass.
Qualifying is the session where drivers try to set their fastest lap to earn a starting position. “Qualifying 20th” means they’ll start 20th on the grid for the race.
Sometimes race officials inspect the cars after the race. If they find something that breaks the rules, the driver/team can get penalized after the checkered flag, which can affect the results.
Term
indie only role
An "Indy-only" role means the driver mainly races in IndyCar, not a bunch of other racing series too. It’s basically about where they spend most of their time and how teams plan around them.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet. It’s built for fast driving, including on a racetrack. When people mention it with track laps and media events, it’s usually because it’s a serious performance car.
It’s a sensor that measures how the car is rotating left/right (like turning its nose) while it’s moving. That rotation tells engineers a lot about how the car is behaving in a corner.
Kistler is a company that makes measurement sensors. Here, they’re supplying the gear teams use to track how the car is rotating and how the tires are behaving.
Slip angle is basically the “difference” between where the tire is aimed and where it’s really sliding. If that angle is bigger, the tire is working harder and grip is changing.
Tire modeling is how engineers “teach” a computer model what the tires do. They use real sensor data to make the simulation match what the tires are actually doing.
Concept
dil simulator
DIL refers to a simulator mode where the system is run in a way that more closely matches real-time driving feedback. It’s used to test the car’s behavior with the same models teams rely on.
Tire deflection is how much the tire squishes and bends when the car loads it. That deformation is directly tied to how much grip the tire can provide.
This is a sensor that measures tire movement without touching the tire. It uses light to “see” how the tire changes shape while the car is turning, helping teams understand grip and handling.
It means the sensor tracks a line on/near the tire and measures how much that line shifts. Bigger shifts mean the tire is deforming more under cornering forces.
A tire model is a computer “recipe” for how the tire behaves—how it grips and how it flexes. Teams use it to predict how setup changes will change handling and lap times before they try everything on track.
This is a simulator where a real driver sits in and drives while the computer models the car. The idea is to make the virtual car feel like the real one so drivers can practice and help teams refine setup.
“Compressed” here means the Indy 500 weekend(s) are packed into a shorter time window. Teams have less time to test and adjust the car, so planning becomes more intense.
Simulation refers to using computer models to predict how the race car will behave before going on track. In modern IndyCar, teams use simulators to reduce guesswork, so drivers and engineers arrive at practice already knowing a lot about setup and expected performance.
Concept
virtual computerized
They’re talking about modern computer-based tools that help teams learn about the car without waiting for track time. The older approach relied more on testing directly on the track.
Pole position means you start the race from the very front. It’s usually earned during qualifying, and starting up front often gives you an easier path to lead early in the race.
“Bump in” is when extra cars try to earn a spot on the starting lineup by beating cars that were already qualified. If you’re fast enough, you can replace someone else.
A crew chief is the person on the team who makes the big race calls with the driver. They decide things like when to pit and how to handle problems during the race.
“Right rear” means the back wheel on the right side of the car. If the driver says something feels weird there, it could be a tire, brake, or suspension problem at that corner.
This is the idea that if the car might be unsafe, the team will protect the driver instead of pushing for position. If there’s a risk of breaking something or crashing, they’ll choose safety.
LIVE
Welcome to the Marshall Pruitt podcast in your week in IndyCar listener Q&A for many
weeks.
Lord, I really do need to apologize to so many of you at every intention of recording
episodes weekly while in Indy been home for actually a little under a week now from Indy
and honestly here on a Monday night I am getting my very first chance to have a bit
of free time mentally at least to put together a show definite massive apologies again for
so many of y'all who've sent in a heck of bunch of amazing questions in recent weeks
following the Indy GP Indy 500 now the Chevrolet Grand Prix of Detroit so our fearless friend
the great Jerry Siddoth and his wife Erin got to see them and many of y'all in our meetup
morning of the race at the 500 Jerry has been putting questions together amending them and
so we do indeed have a show to knock out here so going to do that just want to give a little
bit of a update hope these don't sound like excuses they are not meant to be just being
honest so Indy was the busiest Indianapolis 500 I have ever had and that's the most positive
thing so truly so thankful for all of the opportunities presented to be that busy knowing
that we have a lot of medical bills coming that I need to try and work towards work against
I'm not sure how to phrase that but staring at what is forecasted to be a six figure sum
that I need to pay before the end of the year with some of the medical things we have coming
so just sharing that between doing my normal work or my client primary client racer covering
the 500 GP and everything else for them filled seemingly just about every available minute
after the day was done or on some of the limited days between on track activity with all manner
of items so whether it was hosting events putting on events leading a documentary directing a
documentary just so had to put a lot of these things at the absolute front of the list and so
had to miss Detroit which admittedly I hate but also don't hate love Detroit always have one
of my favorite towns having grown either up in or around San Francisco Oakland and so on
Detroit just makes a lot of sense to me so hate that I wasn't able to go had to miss the last
couple but nonetheless now I'm on the clock just to close here and dive into the show now I'm on
the clock to find out whether I will indeed be able to go to Gateway this weekend worldwide
technology Raceway can say that I just canceled my hotel knowing that if I need to book one I can
just do it day of travel but got some pretty important things to schedule for my wife Chabrelle
if things hold got a pretty serious medical procedure that needs to be done on Thursday if
that holds takes about a week we're told for recovery for her and so if that appointment and
that procedure takes place I will indeed be staying home looking after her if that gets punted to
say next week well I'll be getting on a plane on Friday and book in a hotel hopefully I remember
someone please remind me otherwise hey who's that strange man sleeping in the airport each night
that's that idiot pro it so anyways want to say huge thanks to so many of y'all for just being so
incredibly kind and supportive now you're here for IndyCar but I also know that an extraordinary
amount of y'all just reach out or become friends through the Pruday listener group or just yeah
seriously y'all are such an amazing gift to me and to my wife Chabrelle as well y'all help keep me
in a pretty happy place I'm normally a pretty happy guy but when things do get a little bit rough
I don't know how y'all know but I will get a text I'll get an email I'll get a DM silly
photo of something whatever it might be y'all just seem to be connected and so I thank so many
of y'all for just being so kind to myself and my wife so with all that said let's jump into our show
let's see Jerry who puts together the questions and places them in a fun order tells me yeah we
got a lot so buckle in this might be listen a little bit and then pick up a little later if so
desired but gonna get through as many as I can here as quickly as possible starting at about
7 20 p.m. on a Monday night Scott Boy says please tell me Cheerio will power card is already in
production yeah the f off um that's uh we had a fu to race control back at Loudon many days ago
which days years ago which was the subject of a great kind of mock trading card our friend Roger
work put together for me and we sold all that we had and sent plenty of money to charity and did
bunch of good stuff with it but I don't know if we've got one of will just turning around and
he said fu to the camera it's just the the mic wasn't super live so we really didn't get to hear
it but we saw him say it I don't know is is that does that warrant a card or is that maybe that's
more of a sticker but just a cup I don't even know if it's that it the thing that stood out to me
here about will was I don't know why but Detroit that just seems to be the place remember a couple
years ago with the red flag and then the power distribution unit and him having to cycle that
in particular way and didn't and then wasn't able to start the car uh this is the old bell
aisle it feels like it might have been the last one there or one of the last marx ericsson went
on to win capitalized on that and will freak the bleep out and you name it and mf this that and the
other and then afterwards turned out that well um yeah it was a bit of a sequencing error of turn
this press that foot the other thing knock this twice and that's how you start the car and um
but anyways will and things not going well at Detroit
we're on alert we're just on alert and it seemed to happen again so
man I hate that for will whether you love the guy can't stand the guy I just want to see him
in the twilight of his career be in a place where he's feeling somewhat fulfilled
and it just is not going in that direction to understand how poorly will season is going at
andretti global knowing that while andretti global is not the dominant team of the season
they are indeed sitting second with our man Kirk Kirkwood
Kirk's p2 marcus ericsson who's been having a good good season so far not as great as he'd hope
but he is sitting 12th will is holding 18th and is currently seven points behind
Dale coin racing rookie Dennis Hauger so we know Dennis is phenomenal but he's got everything to
learn he's also driving for one of the smallest teams and will is behind Dennis in the standings
and will has stood on a podium this year so just sharing that if you wanted an example
of how some names that we did not expect to be just in the bottom half of the field but like whoa
we're not talking hey you're 12 13th in the 25 driver field but like hey
will is the first one of the what in the bleep is going on party 22nd at Detroit to that contact
with scott mclaughlin motor kerblamo it looked like at indy 29th there how's this to understand
how will's first season at indreddy global is going he has had a single finish from eight races
inside the top 10 seven of the eight 12th or worse it is even if i had imagined things going
poorly for him i never allowed myself to think it would be going this
badly so he's got 121 points it's not exactly triple but it's not too far away
alex polo is leading the championship with 327 again nearly 3x after eight races
just insane and then because we're just gonna speak truth to reality or reality to truth i don't know
the car that he vacated is sitting third with david malukas he was second coming out of indy 500
sitting third right now and a very strong third it is hard to ignore how well david has gone in the
car that will chose not to continue in for reasons we've discussed many times we know
just to look and see what david can do with that car that will chose to step out of
and it's not as if the car itself that will has stepped into is the sole reason for him
being where he is in the points had more issues with that 26 and dreddy global honda
than david has had with that number 12 team penske shevy but boy 15 positions difference
between malukas and power stating the obvious here to close
i yeah i can get worse it can absolutely get worse for will but i just i can't fathom how it would
actually get much worse he can fall back of course he's tied for 18th with louis foster
he's a little bit ahead he's 11 points ahead of no one seagull
he can go backwards but i have to believe that going to gateway short oval he rocks at those
places rhod america is a rocket there mid ohio nashville port like he's just going to a bunch
of places where he should arrive if nothing else i'm hoping for his sake for his many fans sake
for the team's sake that will can go to gateway be quick like he was at phoenix another short
oval and just get to the finish line in a representative place of his pace should be a
top five top six nothing more than that would seemingly be a wonderful change of fortune for him so
oh uh jim kaiser our dear pal he sends in haiku name another auto racing podcast that has haiku
and i'll tell you if there is i want to know but i feel confident jim has made sure we are locked
in as the one he says if he keeps this up this alex polo guy might be someone someday thank you
for your haiku mr kaiser uh ed juris says has it gotten to the point where a chevy driver is
going to need copious amounts of luck to win on a street course the sunday the top two chevys
award lungard couldn't lay a finger on gram ray hall for the last 30 laps even through a couple
of restarts when gram didn't have any push to pass this one was fascinating to listen to ed
if you really like the inside baseball part of indy car you're a longer term fan or maybe
listen to the show for a while we've covered this a plenty i've written about it tons but
so since this new twin turbo v6 formula came to light in 2012 honda has had some attributes
chevys had some attributes they've evolved over the years but it's really interesting to see how
after what 14 years however many years of this formula there's still some things
that hold true from almost day one and that blows me away should be erased by now
but drivability the engine being tuned to a state to where honda drivers have motors
that coming off of slow corners which is what you get a lot of on street courses the ed's
referencing here from detroit but also back to long beach and arlington and saint petersburg
honda's won every street course race this year there's been the drivability attribute
that honda's just been known for with this motor seemingly from day one i would think
would have been caught equaled maybe exceeded by chevy doesn't appear to be the case and when
you listen to some drivers like a pato or similar talking about drivability after the detroit race
and talking about still some gains to be made there this is something where depending on how
much you've driven in your life driven at speed whether it's a race car or a go kart or whatever
it might be but something where you have a basic understanding of engine response when you step on
the throttle this is something where especially in street courses where there's tons of 90 degree
corners you slow a lot going into them then have to power out grip is usually pretty limited there
because streets tend not to have a lot of adhesive qualities to the tracks to the surface that the
cars are running on a lot of acceleration having to go from slow speeds to medium to high
speeds that's the constant compared to say 9500 where you're just kind of zooming around at
seemingly top speed almost the entire time so the constant up and down of fast slow fast
slow fast slow and re-acceleration re-acceleration this is a thing where over the years honda has
through the tuning of their engines software wise been really adept at modeling the engine
response through the throttle to each of their drivers needs and so as a attribute in general
it's something where within the paddock honda has been known as being really the leaders
making their engines work super well on these stop start street courses
then tuning them to respond how the drivers want them to react right you step on the throttle
really hard do you want tons of power instantly or would you rather have a more gradual response so
you don't spin the tires up and lose speed or just lose sideways and maybe hit the wall
it's a lot of little tricks here you don't necessarily always want maximum power the minute
you touch the throttle sometimes a bit of a software based ramping up of that more of a
curve than just a straight shot uh upwards is what you want so that's one thing right the driveability
torque wise this is something that honda has also been known for since about day one with
these motors were in these slow corners slow to medium corners having to slow down a lot and then
re-accelerate compared to maintaining a lot of momentum where the torque production from the
honda motors over a decade plus in these street racing environments this has been another area
where they've just been known to have a edge and that's not strictly software tuning that that's
a lot in the motor build itself and the turbocharger usage and right it's not just
tapping away to keyboard to make one motor have more torque response low end response than the other
but these are two key areas where here after all these years ed it was a bit of a shock to your
point to see the hondas running away with things again but then to even have I think I don't remember
the other Chevy driver but I do seem to recall a another prominent Chevy driver talking about
still has some headway to make on drivability and so knowing that this formula has got one more
year after this season to go again a bit of a shock but there's still this kind of disparity
being mentioned there's a third attribute and it's not specific to street courses but fuel economy
this was a huge factor at the indy 500 in felix in polo in dixon being able to go
one to two laps longer than the lead Chevy drivers they were running with
if you think of how many laps polo in particular lead well that's you up front burning the most
fuel because you're having to pierce that air for the cars behind you and so normally you go well
in this stint this guy was leading if not more than a Rossi or name whomever the Chevy person
might have been behind him but enough so where you would have expected him to be on
equal fuel footing with the Chevy drivers trading the lead with going back and forth with
to see polo routinely go one full lap longer two and a half miles longer on a tank
dixon was doing something like two laps longer he's the king of fuel saving
rosy though was right in an advent it just opens up opportunities right if it's a caution
if it's how much fuel you're going to need for that final stint just in general i can go longer
or if i'm going to stop a little sooner i'm going to need less in the tank and my stop is going to
be faster the fact that this was still so evident at the indy 500 in 2026 since these 2.2 liter twin
turbo v6 is debuted in 2012 i'm it yeah i'm running out of ways to describe the fact that i thought
by now there'd be effectively nothing to separate the two brands um Chevy's known for their top end
for sure mid range and top end and it they still got it so don't get me wrong but the other attributes
that i mentioned seem to be something that neutralize Chevy advantages and if we're just looking at how
the 2026 season has played out so far get a Honda win to open the season of the eight races Honda
win to open the season Chevy won the second one at phoenix Honda won the third fourth
Honda won the fifth Chevy won the sixth Honda won the seventh at the 500 and Honda just won the eighth
six wins for Honda two for Chevy i really did not anticipate that continuing um last year
Honda basically ran away with things early in the season i didn't think we're going to be stuck
in that scenario again uh kirk winnaker how you doing kirk he says from what little i could tell
from the broadcast the attendance looked meager am i wrong referring to Detroit wasn't there as
mentioned unfortunately so i can't say we'll say that i did try and look at the grandstands
and the surrounding general admission non grandstand areas as much as i could throughout all three
days of observing through fox and then especially during the broadcast itself and while i don't have
any numbers to offer it looked to me like it was a little bit stronger this year kirk so again that
doesn't mean anything it just yeah it looked a little in recent years it has looked pretty sparse
especially in a few too many of the grandstands doing a bit of mental compare and contrast
i think i saw more people in places than i did last year uh want to go to christopher davis
says rasmussen is 24th in the championship is he on the hot seat so uh looking at the good old
standings one point ahead of mech schumacher in dfl so if you are a 1980s endurance racing fan
you'll know that the cause worth dfl uh was used in what would have been the wc back then and maybe
a little bit in imsa uh endurance version of the dfv but dfl also is a acronym that's been
dfl
to your question i don't know about hot seat is ed carpenter racing team loves him
he is a badass hard charger hard edged right full dga f kid doesn't want to change his ways just
wants to be a thousand percent on the throttle at all times they love him for it i would say
the thing that stands out here is not so much him being on the hot seat in his own team could
change of course just saying i haven't heard anything yet to suggest he's on the hot seat for
where he's at but the main thing that stands out christopher is this he is among the to be honest
it's quite a few people but he is among the bigger names in this year's silly season razz
coming to the end of his rookie contract with ecr when we were coming out of towards the end of
last season especially after his win at milwaukee um had a prominent person from a prominent team
reach out and say hey do you have that kid's number like talk to him don't know if what his deal is
or isn't contractually but would at least like to say hello and the interest wasn't necessarily
looking towards 2026 wasn't available for 26 but just hey thinking ahead this kid's showing something
that we should really be paying attention to caught up with that person at dinner with them while in
indy and can tell you that we spoke a lot about silly season who's available who team should be
going after who they're looking after etc and while those that conversation was not for public
consumption i can tell you that this very same person who last august i think it was august
whenever yeah was asking for razz's phone number never mentioned the kid and this was during the 500
it stood out to me that not even on their radar and trust me was told about some others on their
radar wasn't even mentioned so that to me is the big takeaway here i think he's fine at ecr i hope
he's fine at ecr made some of his own misery right last weekend perfect example also had some
misfortunate occurrences this year not of his making this has just been terrible for him we know that
but i don't believe the ecr team would be interested in moving on unless they felt
they could sign someone else who is going to be better not as good but better there's some
options out there right some options to consider don't know if they have proven themselves as much
as razz on ovals but at least if we're looking at the 2026 calendar 18 races six ovals 12 of
them aren't ovals so if the one thing you're really good at ovals that's awesome that's a
third of the schedule and course for ecr we know winning the 8500 comes above everything else but
they're spending more money and making a greater effort than i've probably
ever seen in trying to be damn good at every race greater effort to be season long good
than just oval good so this is where i hope things turn around for him
i want to see him stay at the team i don't think options to go elsewhere are really going to
stand out unless he starts winning again and this terrible first eight races gets completely forgotten
so if you're an ecr
does a phoenix rosin fist if he were to want to leave the myershank racing
ganassi affiliate family is he someone to pursue i'd say you'd be silly not to getting an 8500
winner in the team that's an instant shine that can go a long way um he'd be a heck of a
spokesperson for all of their their sponsors and brands
a marcus erickson 8500 winner definitely good on ovals good just about everywhere right
someone you could think about for sure more proven right both of these guys more proven than razz
also admittedly they already have a veteran hardcore veteran alexander rossi
they're looking to have two well then a rosy or a erickson could certainly be
ones to consider they like the idea of having a young driver to develop long runway for that
driver then again i think razz is someone to hold on to but where i do indeed see the the
potential harm of such a bad season it's i don't know if anyone else that would have been knocking
late last year is actually looking at him as a real talent to try and acquire i know how talented
he is if you followed his career you know how talented he is but man uh in the what have you
done for me lately world of sports this is a brutal time in a contract year to be sitting
dang near bottom of the pile at this point in time so uh we will indeed see where he does
or does not end up uh matthew louis oh louis oh sorry if i've murdered your last name matthew
louis oh maybe let me give it a third try what do the drivers really think about the detroit track
um they think it's the race they have to go to after indy
keep this one super short because there's no need to really expound any more than necessary
because it's just it's a it's what it is this is the event put on by penske entertainment penske
entertainment's been the promoter of the detroit grand prix for many many many years
this is chevrolet's home race half of the field and shoot a little more than half the field i think
are all powered by chevy this is right like long beach grand prix is to honda
detroit is to chevrolet so you've got detroit greater detroit based roger penske
you've got the event that penske has promoted for a super long time general motors home chevrolet's
home um everybody goes because they know that they have to if this layout could go away and
everyone could go back to bell isle knowing that many of the drivers uh have raced on it
and even those who haven't feel confident by comparison they would love the joint
i think every single driver would opt to go back to bell isle just period
and of statement but not something they really will say on the record for all the reasons that
i just mentioned uh lile james okay uh as a gearhead who is eager to learn what's coming our way
with the new technical regs i was surprised earlier in may to see statements from david
salters that insinuated that the new engine regs have not been locked down uh are we really less
than two years away from the launch of a new car than an engine formula without finalized regs uh
is this indy car not having their stuff together or is this a series perhaps trying to build in
some last-minute cool factor in order to get more participants etc etc um so here's the the
couple things on this it's just it's good to understand
i'm told that a pretty serious non-disclosure exists between pesk entertainment uh the honda
racing side and the chevy racing side so as i have gone and asked hey can this person speak on
the record about any details about anything told no can't nda now that's talking about particulars
right how is the new motor coming along what have you learned what's new what's different
i know the answer is to many some of these things not but these are the kinds of things
that i want to be writing and sharing with y'all doing videos on i can't do that right now um
lockdown but i do know and this is pertaining to what salter said i didn't see what he said
it's just been aware of this behind the scenes there's nothing lacking in terms of the metal parts
of the motor rules they know what they're making it's effectively the same motors that were built
a couple years ago but the questions of are there areas that will be spec or not common parts
still being decided from what i'm told um life thing right hey how long will they last what are
i don't know if i want to call them the the esoteric items because they're not actually esoteric but
they're not to me at least the super primary things if a motor needed to get machined and go into
production tomorrow i feel like based on what i know that could probably happen and would there
be a couple of things missing that aren't fully decided upon maybe probably but we're not talking
about blank piece of paper what's going on where do we go what do we do um
so as i understand it the the major items being worked out it's more of the usage the duration
how does this thing get used how is it regulated
i understand the framework if not really the the finer points of the regulations have been done
for a good long while i've heard that the the bones if not the tendons and a lot of the other parts
have been in place since effectively the end of december but the actual
nuts and bolts of how they'll get used how they'll be policed how parody will be established how
this how that this is where the the if we're thinking of this as litigation
this is really where battles take place the major items no longer being contested
it's going to be 2.4 liters got it it's going to be turbo got it how many two can we do three no
can we do one no got to be two okay it's two it's going to be a v6 okay what about
eight no what about an inline six no what about a inline five no the v to six okay got it
gonna have different turbos bigger turbos going to have a little bit of this a little bit of that
it's right all this stuff that they're really fighting over as i'm told these the areas where
the needs and wants and preferences of a manufacturer are really getting when i say
litigated i just mean they're fighting like hell at the table to get what each side wants
and if there was a lot of just commonality of hey we see the same things and we agree on it
it already be done the fact that it isn't tells us that they're fighting really dang hard on either
side to get what they believe is the right thing the right answer the right approach so
but we do need to get going on making some motors let's see Vincent Martinez asking about
any pictures in the new chassis word on test drivers no on pictures of anything nothing yet
test drivers i'm gonna find out if some news of one can be shared um yeah uh more to follow
i'll just leave it there leah ditmer you say have you watched or listened to joseph's post
race interview with bob pochris and others joseph's comment of if they wanted to win they should have
put bleep a nazar in seem like a sarcastic uh jive bob uh who joseph has a bit of a history of not
liking his questions um with the earlier quote of it's their team not my team was said with some
real feeling others have stated joseph doesn't seem happy at penske and this interview seems to say
the same thing what says you also this interview seems to have overshadowed and otherwise impressive
drive by new garden is this the beginning of the end um an interview can only overshadow
something if you wanted to overshadow it so i i'm here for the racing i saw a guy who started
21st in clear
uh lack of full physical capabilities at a track that is going to bounce all of the things that
hurt and are in a bad shape on his lower leg and just bludgeon it lap after making
things much worse saw a guy who chose to drive did not qualify last which is super impressive
fell to last in the race early on was able to improve get back up to where he started in 21st
and improve more positions we know that the way cautions fell and strategies many strategies playing
out the way they did allowed joseph um and david malukas as well to uh to move forward
but more than anything i'm not looking at strategy i'm not i'm just looking at a gutsy drive by this
guy who clearly was not if he had his choice uh the detroit grand prix would have been held a week
or two later but he indeed got into the car don't know what his contract says but i think with his
injury i think if he had to uh i feel like the ability for him to say you know what i am not
going to risk further injury i am going to step aside for the weekend i've got to believe that
that was an option for him but i truly could be wrong just thinking of it's more of a general
sense than happening to know whatever his contract does or doesn't hold lia but
you don't see drivers being forced into their cars and so if anything like
that happened well then shame on whomever made him feels if he had to drive but i can tell you
that at least while in the car he drove the whole race and all the way up and had a really impressive
result in a scenario that was far from awesome for him and finished 10th and so as a result of
doing that he's eighth in the standings right that terrible indy 500 crash really set him back
he was fifth coming into the 500 so he's lost a little bit of ground but he's going to gateway
this weekend where he can absolutely win he's won it wrote america before he can get back in the game
if there's an undercurrent of other things happening within the team or he is unhappy
he would need to say that
the unique situation with joseph this is something that has changed in recent years
he has removed himself from speaking about such things
sharing thoughts not that he doesn't do that with his inner circle and most trusted of friends but
joseph the person who will freely speak to the media and answer the questions that he has asked
that doesn't happen nearly as much as it used to by choice it's his prerogative
go speak to the team of course and say hey is joseph unhappy
they know to not crack that door open if that is indeed the situation
they're not going to talk about such things but i can ask if i'm able to go to gateway this weekend
asking these things face to face is always better than removed removed by phone or something like
that but if i'm able to go this weekend i don't mind asking heard this for a while but
tried to get some insight from joseph about this during media days and blew me off again
his prerogative doesn't have to answer my questions or anybody's
but i can't speak to where he's at happiness lack of happiness
i'll refrain from going into what one team was telling me about
joseph thinking about the future and where he could be driving i have to see
i'm not choosing my words carefully leah i'm trying to think of things to share that have any
meaning and that's just where i don't have much to offer and this is the by-product this is exactly
the scenario that joseph has created so that of course folks can speculate wildly
but actual speaking to a topic saying it publicly i'm happy i'm unhappy i want to be here i want to
leave these are things that if i were to go to a pick seemingly any other driver you'd get an answer
and for the most part you'd be able to tell whether they were being truthful
or if they were just towing some sort of line to not get in trouble or create havoc for themselves
with joseph who removes himself from such things altogether there's no information
other than what i'm told by this team over here about this or that team and it's all
second might be firsthand from the person saying it but again it's not from his mouth
and he is very very strong about hey don't put words in my mouth don't get it wrong don't guess
so this is the scenario so we can try and perceive based on how answers are given
and could read into that if desired we'll just say this
if the team wanted to succeed more than they did last weekend with joseph in the car
i don't know about felipe nazar being able to do that
has nothing to do with felipe's talent i want to see him in indy car i've wanted to see him
in indy car he came so close testing with carlin back at spring training at kota
i'd love to see him in team penske i think he would be a race winner in championship contender
the guy is a certified badass
but dropping him in at detroit the crassiest track on the calendar in a car that he knows
a little bit he's tested indy cars for penske before i'm struggling to remember whether it was
arrow screen era it might have been pre-arrow screen he could have been on the simulator i
don't remember if he's on the simulator at all leading into detroit as a potential fill-in for
joseph but realized that he's raced there and had great success at detroit this specific layout
for porsche penske motorsport in the 963 i get that he's truly one of the top two or three drivers
in imsa period has been for years just that's how good he is but hey on a track where seemingly
everybody the veterans who do nothing but this seemingly hit everything but the damn pace car
last weekend right this is where we want you to step in on again effectively no notice
you can't go test on a street course like this anywhere so jump in no notice get to know the car
get to know how it functions around the track and then this is the key part do better than joseph
this is the part where even an injured joseph even with a little bit of help from the
or otherwise the guy finished 10th best finisher for team penske on a day where
scott mcglockland contact ultimately pooped the bed car was broken didn't finish davie malukas
damn near rode a car off and qualifying had to build a backup car for him and yeah bed poopage
right finished 18th for laps down um hey how many people actually had a race where they
didn't hit walls or hit each other and get penalized like there's a lot of drivers who got seriously
penalized for doing things wrong pretty much everybody behind joseph either hit one another
got hit ran into a wall on their own or got penalized for doing something they shouldn't
effectively from 11th through 25th i think scott dixon might have been
really one of the only standouts who just had a hybrid failure right but just sharing i love
leaping azer i want to see him in a penske car tomorrow just not under these circumstances so
um yeah as for joseph's future i have no idea but i can say this
he's in an interesting place he's what 34 i think he'll be 35 here if i'm not wrong already but
yeah he'll be 35 at the end of the year had a really good career obviously been one of the
kart drivers for most of his career still a top 10 guy was top five leading into the 8500
he gets the job done still gets the job done we already knew that he was a really gritty guy to
just from what he saw back in the day in the big crash i'll drive for ecr and drive in broken
bones and still delivering right so we knew that's who he is it's not a surprise but just
haven't haven't had a chance to see that side delivered yet again he did it right this past
weekend the joseph new garden who torched everybody in indycar who won that championship
in 2017 first year with penske again in 2019 that's the guy if someone's going to hire him away
that's the person that they're going to want and so it feels like he's been showing that
that guy is still there i haven't seen him for a few years i'd say that again at least from the
outside it sure looks like that guy who used to scare the living daylights out of his rivals
that that guy is if not all the way back getting really close and keep in mind he finished second
in 2022 the year that his teammate will power won the championship won five races that year
that's a huge number few too many bad results that's why he didn't take the championship
but as recently as 2022 the guy won five races in 2023 four races
you looked at 2024 two races one of those being the indy 500 so that's really darn good
here's the part where again we're just saying things that we know in 2022 let's just forget
the ovals because he won three of those won at long beach poll at detroit won road america i believe
right he also won texas right uh iowa one of those two i believe yeah then obviously
unfortunately had the big issue the next day uh but one gateway you come back to 2023
and won i think all ovals right those four races that he won i think he took both iowa's
obviously the first indy 500 texas again moved to 2024 so we go five wins then four wins
then two wins in 2024 one of them indy gateway had a number of podiums right
obviously st pete we know where that went disqualification wise unfortunately but
certainly had the pace right um for something better than being disqualified there but
the thing that i'm just looking at if we're talking future 2025 won the season finale at
nashville just not a great year altogether right finish like 11th or 12th on the standing
shoes just the most abnormal year for him you could imagine gotten back in the game this year
which is phenomenal won at phoenix which is phenomenal
the question mark that is out there when you think about joseph
penske level teams that could be interested in him well there's only one that's truly penske
level it's actually above penske in terms of results and that's ganassi out's polo is going
nowhere i don't believe scott mc scott mcglock scott dixon's going anywhere this year or next
could lead to an opportunity the year after i guess joseph would be what turning 36 nearly 37
after that it's aaron mclaren
team would definitely benefit from having him we'll see where they end up
competitively but they're nowhere near ganassi
andretti they're nowhere near penske right now so that is unless they make huge gains
a definite step backwards after that again could be a andretti situation right depending on who's
available what seats are open etc but we know that they've got tons of money tons of resources
and they are working really hard to catch ganassi but
potentially could be an upgrade to where he is right now but penske and andretti seem to be
pretty darn close so just saying if you're looking at a team that would want to hire him
end of 2027 which is when we believe he'd be available
be towards the end of his 30s where will he be in terms of winning and capabilities
the last season last two seasons full seasons and this season so far joseph has been a threat
for sure on ovals haven't really seen that manifest in terms of real like we're gonna
go win ourselves a street course or a road course and coming back to something i mentioned earlier
roads and streets tend to be approximately two-thirds of the schedule so if you're looking
to go win the 8500 joseph's your guy win more ovals joseph's your guy
to some teams that would be highly prized commodity to go acquire but if we're talking about
something that would be considered a lateral move to what he has at team penske or above
i don't know if there's a great fit unless he's able to win demonstrate the ability to get the
job done on the types of tracks that he had been winning on for a long long time so maybe a little
bit of a deeper dive on joseph than i originally anticipated leah but you always ask great questions
and i've done a podcast for a while so i figure y'all know to expect we're gonna sit and visit
for a little while um where do we go next uh charlie obelusky charlie feel like this might
have been your first time submitting a question if not i apologize for missing the previous ones
charlie says do you think rosa fist would have won anyway with a fuel saving strategy if the
cautions hadn't come out oh yes without a doubt uh based on when he pitted they were in great
great shape to get to the finish um everybody would have been fuel saving anyways right just
being smart and then last 10 to 15 laps started to dial things up so yeah to me
the fro was leading when kyle collett had his huge crash that brought out that red flag uh
had they just stayed yellow probably would have needed most if not all those laps to
clean it up fro's your winner um had things just gone green the whole way fro was your
winner um again who knows i'm just saying unless something crazy happened oh yeah
they were cruising cruising to victory so to me there was there's no caveat here of oh he
squeaked out a win it was no um the the real caveat is davie malukas almost won the 8500 when it
was in felix's hands totally before we had the uh the red flag and then the caution uh
justice thomas how you doing this hope you had a great month of may i did says on restart
is there anything that the first place car can do to negate the aerodynamic advantage of the
second place car whereas the first place car always going to be a sitting duck in these situations
um yeah and it's been this way for as long as the 8500 uh has been contested at speeds
where aerodynamics have an effect so yes this is just nature this is truly nothing other than
nature uh this is physics just this is fluid dynamics uh period so yes without a doubt
whether we're talking back to the 50s with the roadster days kind of the the slip streamers to
you name it so yeah this is without a doubt absolutely nothing new totally normal and
and this is something where felix was telling me after the race how when he and his teammate marcus
armstrong were going side by side um he wasn't sure who's going to come out ahead but he said
as malukas was in front of them weaving back and forth trying to break the the aerodynamic
toe to not give them any benefit said that and i guess we could probably go back and try and time
how much he spent on the right farther to the right to benefit felix or to the left to benefit marcus
but from felix's vantage point he said it seemed like malukas spent more time on the right
and that he received more of a toe because of that which ultimately helped him to power along
get in front of armstrong tuck in behind davie and slingshot past him uh going into or going
across the start finish line so if this was yeah the ability to do this for the amount of time that
they did that kind of two laps this is what gave the opportunity for felix who was overtaken by
malukas to come back and get him um but yeah to your point this is it i didn't read the article
someone told me someone wrote an article or i don't know fielded some opinions from i don't
know who drivers or team owners about should there be some sort of choose option where the
leader with one to go or two to go whatever it was can opt to fall back behind the person in
second place is not to be at a disadvantage and it's like are you ever kidding me like
sure let's just make up all the stupid things like look this is how it plays out 200 laps
are on the books to hold a motor race the guy who was leading the race before a giant crash
led to a hey we're gonna red flag this as not to finish the race under caution
and then mick schumacher glazes the turn one wall i mean i don't know did he dust the bear like
whatever it was barely touches we go yellow and we're burning more laps and then all of a sudden
what do we get we get this wild wild finish and yes laws of physics aerodynamics good old
burn we like all these things are gonna remain the same um there's reality here and if we're gonna
decide to change rules because hey physics just we don't like you so we're gonna let the leader
fall back like hey you know what just saying the person leading they want on that restart
could do a crazy little thing of letting the person behind them go right um i realized that
depending how close things are the person in third at the time could sneak through into second
and i realized you could have more of a fight in front of you but these drivers do indeed have the
ability to choose what they do while the green flag is waving if somebody doesn't want to lead
going into the final lap they can indeed make it a little bit easier for the person behind
to get around them and then use that aerodynamic benefit to their benefit so anyways um yeah this
is just reality and earth so uh this is what we got tim hand you sent in a question about grochan
and malukas and polo at the 500 and i got to admit brother my brain is just farting here like you
wouldn't believe so i don't know and i'm sorry i should um put my brains in enemy more than an
ally so i just got acknowledged that uh chris hill wondering who had the best drive of the 500
that we're not talking about so i think marcus armstrong is he had a real chance to win in the
end because i know the grochan won the biggest mover what do you think i mean armstrong is really
hard to argue with from the standpoint of raise your hand if you had marcus armstrong is going to
come really close to winning the indianapolis 500 i mean there should be zero hands raised right now
unless you're a crew member on that 66 ms r honda or his mom or his dad uh or calomai a lot who loves
him and yeah i mean how could you not love marcus armstrong uh yeah i i think you got a great choice
there the one that stood out to me though that i would say not spoken about enough and yeah
good old no land seagull from palo Alto california i'm looking at the window can see right across
where this little elfish lad comes from uh the kid was just really good all month for
arrow mclaren was p2 for the team reaching the finish line right pato obviously uh in with a
shout finished fourth was never truly in a position to win to be honest but uh pato led the team not
a surprise lungard boy that was just not fun for him uh ryan hunter ray just brutal month
but no one it wasn't just the fact that he finished second on the day it was the kid was
relatively sharp throughout the month right i know that qualifying 20th doesn't stand out as
but like lungard qualified 18th right i mean hunter ray qualified 22nd this kid sitting right
between lungard who we all agree is pretty special and hunter ray is pretty special pato was on an
island of his own we get that um also used a backup car and drove it the heck forward when
we thought he would just be going backwards but i think nolyn going from 20th 12th wasn't the biggest
mover of course as you mentioned grochan was able to do that but uh coins good at the speedway
grochan was a hell of a driver we again we know all these things nolyn being sandwiched between
takuma sato and conard daily that kid deserves some recognition or not only i'd say an impressive
month of may but also just looking at his body of work since long beach bearing in mind he's
20th on the standings i realize that's not you know nothing you get too wound up about
but 12th at long beach 10th at the indy gp 11th at the 500 15th last weekend again i know 15th is
not something that um super happy with but he was running a little bit stronger than that for a
decent portion of the race pato finished fourth last weekend lungard is fifth so more of a gap
than desired but i'd say nolyn for sure um i think a sneaky high quality effort from him
for sure um let's get through a couple more and then say farewell uh james lough you say with
post race penalties for technical violations in the past 2 and 500's made me think would
indy car dare to penalize the winner if they found something i sure would hope so i know that i'm
having to guess based on this new indy car officiating incorporated group and the independent
officiating board and all the acronyms going on there but i sure hope so and if they found
something and didn't it just reinforce my belief that this whole independent thing
has just been a complete waste of time the granted i wouldn't love this for the sport
having the winner of its biggest race penalized in some whatever capacity but if it were to happen
if there were to be something illegal on the winner's car boy i sure hope they would announce it
penal whatever it would be we don't know what the severity would need to be because we don't know
what this theoretical thing is if it were to happen but i would be of the belief that yeah we
definitely need to do this independent thing and go through this whole process like the whole
independent thing i'm totally good with don't get me wrong the concept i'm great with just the actual
execution of is all this effort worth what's being received i'd hope that in this scenario
you're painting the answer would be yes and they would be just as hard or just as light
or whatever it is on the winner as they've been on others with similar penalties
uh daryl finch because recently we're discussing one-off indy 500 drivers talking about the likes
of ellio and taku having a short runway and asking how the series replaces them daryl asked would
guys like power dixon rayhall transition from full-time to part-time or maybe indy only to fill
that void um is that something you've ever discussed with them um it's a great question daryl haven't
mentioned this to them would say
graham my my initial response would be a no knowing how busy he is with family
and his many businesses but i'd also say that he thrives on competition and is only known competition
since he was a teen and i just feel like he's either going to be fully into the indy 500 only
roll or all the way out um dixon there's a part of me that thinks he's got to keep doing this till
he wins at least one more but i also look at dixie and realize that man i look at dixie having
seen him for the first time when he was in indy lights and he is just starting to look like
someone with a whole bunch of miles on his life he looks amazing for his age way better than i do
but i'm also looking at dixie going man part of me wonders if he would actually just enjoy
having not having this as the center of his life for the first time in his adult life power
feel like he's a guy who's going to need this um even not as a full-time thing
and as long as he can be competitive i'm confident folks would want him to drive for them
but if we're looking at others who might be at that they're not necessarily at that pivot
point right now but 35 however many years down the line i mean fro is what 34 he'll be 35
later this year um ericsson is another one who stands out to me as a i could see marcus coming
back and doing this for a long he's 35 he'll be 36 in september again these guys are more like once
we get into the early 2030s maybe um mcglockland still young but i see him doing this for a long
long time if he wants to i'm just looking at some of those who are a little bit older rossy
i don't have a feel for rossy uh who else is in that slightly older group grocha
i don't know how many teams he has left to explore if it isn't
dill coin racing after that like daily obviously i think connor is going to be doing this for a
good long while i hope so jack harvey sponsors as long as they're along for the ride i think
we'll see him but again he's still young ish i'm struggling to find a bunch more that jump into
that indie only role would say fro and ericsson stand out first and foremost you mentioned dixie
i think maybe but i don't know but maybe he's i can i don't have as good a feel for this as i
thought i did so i appreciate your question darryl and it just reminds me that i need to pose this
question to them even though some of them are going to look at me like dude f off i don't want to
talk about this uh ken anderson asks did lando visit ims as a tourist or zack responsible
um would just say that something like a lando visit is never just something that is made up
this is something that is fully game plan conceived and then planned down to the minute
well before the person ever shows up so this was a full McLaren thing
says lando obviously did other things while he was there however wearing team kit and taking
his time when answering questions made me think that this was more than a casual visit it wasn't
he's a McLaren driver showing up as part of team McLaren so he wouldn't just show up in a
plain t-shirt would always show up in McLaren gear um
plan was formed ahead of time to make him available to a select group of the media for
about 10 minutes um was kindly invited to be a part of that so was there spoke with a kid and
met him once before maybe twice before um sweet kid uh no different than when i met him years ago
when he was at atona as part of united autosports lmt lmp2 program or a couple years ago at sonoma
when he was there for the velocity and rotational event so um he just looked well at ease which i
enjoyed um was not there for any greater hidden purpose it was hey you're local and your race
ran on sunday and our race ran on sunday but uh once you pop by and we see it for the first time
and so they did and so good on them and got a really nice hit for him for the speedway for
all kinds of good stuff so um but yeah just good to hear from the kid hear what he was thinking
um not planning on doing the 8500 wasn't any kind of scouting thing it was just a fun experiential
item would also say that if you know zack brown at all you know that he is a person
working many years into the future so what was a lando rocking up the day after the 500 in 2026
to play a little bit of golf to look at the museum to do a lap or two around the track
with tony and a corvette speak with the media then go see the new mclaren shop in town um
all fun all good all team related he might not have any plans to do the 8500 right now
but i can tell you that zack for sure is thinking future and possibilities uh phil whitworth how you
doing phil asking heard anything about danie rickardo his first thoughts of the 500 um
because i'd love to know if it impressed him as much as it seems to impress most first timers
the answer is yes uh he published a cool little newsletter item about it and yeah did not express
any desire to actually race in the event but uh came away realizing that yeah anything else that
he's done that he thought was the coolest biggest best was just uh overtaken by indy uh chad smith
sorry man you've been asking this for a while i'm editing photos from the indy test and notice
something hanging beneath the attenuator in polo's car you know the car had it to my knowledge
can you give some insight into this device and i realize this is an audio show and i'm talking
about visuals but yes hanging from the back of the car is indeed uh that would be a device
that is measuring we'll just call it line variants tire flex this is a a yaw sensing device and so
really interesting uh with what is allowed and this was allowed during the test not during anything
else uh no official practice or whatever else um but this indeed is an optical sensor that is used
it's a non-contact optical sensor uh kissler is the vendor for this not necessarily for everybody
but it's kind of a popular vendor and it helps measure yaw uh slip angle is what it's really
helping to measure so what is all this this sensor hanging from the back of polo's car
and there would have been one on a chevy as well um being used in conjunction with the torque sensors
that were also on alex's car and on some other cars as well and i got footage of all this including
the um the slip angle sensor being used here uh i just ran out of time to edit it and post it
but this is something that teams are using to help in their tire modeling
and so what the the sensor at the back is doing along with the data from the torque sensor helping
to understand power delivery and how things are working from an accelerative standpoint
it helps team gives them arms them with the data to plug into their tire models and so both for
simulation right so not actual driver in the loop sitting in the big the big monitors in front of
you and driving a pretend race car simul driver in the loop simulator but simulation and then also
would then be used in the dil simulator this is helping to measure
tire as it deflects and so you're heading in a straight line things for the most part there's
not much if any loading on the tire but as you're cornering in particular you might have the car
pointing forward but the tires themselves are twisting you have the forces trying to
take all that mass and sling it to the outside of the track well that loads the tire deforms the
tire and so as that happens and you have this kind of whipping effect going around and around the
track kind of like you have this yaw that's happening this rotation within the chassis the
slip angle of the tire and the movement the actual side to side movement the variance of the car
which again might be tracking forward but under load there is some twist in the chassis the tires
moving a bit on the carcass twisting a bit on the carcass that non-contact optical sensor
is reading that line variance and so you get a feel for okay this is how much the tire is deflecting
as we're going through the corner and the torque sensor as well giving us great information
understand the accelerative aspects of what's going on here and when those two things are put
together Chad it really is helpful for teams to create tire models
so they know that when they're trying name all the different things that they tune on the car
or suspension arrow etc they have a model that as they're running simulation can as accurately as
possible predict how the tire is going to react car would behave and then the lap time or lap speed
would be reflected in that change and then also as you're talking driver in the loop simulator
strapped into a chassis and doing as we see model is as accurate as possible to give drivers the
most accurate feel in this virtual environment of driving to replicate the most accurate handling
characteristics possible from those tires so hopefully that's uh what i got here for you
uh jeremy davis the world's biggest scott dixon fan can't wait to hear the rumor mill in the silly
season gotta imagine my shank is resigning both felix and marcus any new rumors about the month
made i miss um we'll see where things end up with my shank felix winning is gonna make it awful
hard for them to not hold on to him great promotionally i know that he was definitely
in a state of boy i'd be concerned before the win and so this super help which is awesome
um team needs to win more races though whether it's from felix or marcus um so
would say if i'm myer shank knowing that you've won two races in your history both them the 500
so again you've won the best ones you can win but two wins since the team came to life what nine
years ago that's not something that they're considering to be acceptable anymore but even with
an 8500 win a hangover of fantastic nests is not where they are at leaving detroit going to gateway
going to where it is one another race we can't just be one-trick ponies every five
years at the 500 we have to become a more consistent more serious threat or victory so the 500 win i would
say extinguished some of the what is going on why can't we win got it okay take a deep breath
all's good but hey we can't just look to the 500 is the only time we're relevant
let's say take that in mind here and again i want them to hold on to both and i want both to
do amazing things and win a bunch of races and live wonderful lives for the rest of their careers
but do not think that marshank racing is just drunk off of that 500 result and that means all's
good and they're holding on to everybody um i would say this is probably jeremy added pressure
relieve the immediate pressure but now it's like okay yeah remember all the expectations we had
when we won the first time and then it just kind of didn't go anywhere and we made a ton of changes
since then right and jack harvey we had simon pagina we had aleo kester neves and we went to
tom blomkvist and then we went to here and went to there and went right and now we're okay cool
would say the and now we better deliver more is probably a really significant thing
i feel like i've said this before so i apologize if i'm repeating myself
but i'd say the the most salient prescient something eint item coming out of the month of may
which had been bubbling up before that but month of may it seemed to take a lot of interest
is can we see hunko's hauling a racing and drawing rinebold racing partner in some way shape or form
in a permanent capacity is that hauling or rinebold is that hauling or dr r is i
i'm not fully convinced rickardo is going to be with the team if indeed this whole
coming together happens with dr r said to have an investor an investment to make
if we were to see keep in mind that renas is a free agent
can't tell you if he'll be back but if he is a renas and connor daily line up
that'd be at least on the ovals pretty damn scary renas been pretty darn good on on roads and streets
connor certainly never gotten the respect he's due on rodent streets but could i see a
hunko's hauling or hauling or plus dr r with daily in that second entry is a full-time thing
if they can hold on to renas would be great and if not i'm sure they'll be able to hire someone else
um this is the thing i'm i'm got my eye on don't pretend to know exactly if it's going to happen
but i've had a number of folks tell me to keep an eye out on that happening so
my eye is be out uh let me pick one more here
um
take two more uh phil bradwell saying new to indy car this year in an observation question
does indy 500 need to be two weeks with so many practices i get if you have a large number of
cars to spread out running but would it not make more chat make it more challenging to have everything
in one week it certainly make it more challenging phil can tell you that the schedule we have now
and this might blow your mind is compressed it is truly like for those of us who've been around
for a little while we still think of this as like the short indy 500 um it used to be
what it's called the month of may although that's a little weird now because it's effectively
just the two weeks of may but it used to be called the month of may because that's really what it was
and would run forever and ever that was just normal and this was
also kind of sort of back in the day when teams did not technology was not at a place where as
much was known about the cars as they are now and simulation really didn't have a role simulators
didn't really exist so in the absence of this whole virtual computerized we're showing up
like getting 99 percent on our test and just going out on track is like again we're learning a lot
but don't get me wrong we're not showing up clueless like we show up kind of acing the test
already that used to not be the case at all because those things really just were not a factor didn't
exist so my first 500s were indeed the old school three weeks of of total running and two weekends
of qualifying so yeah you had your first weekend and uh i'm even forgetting exactly how that format
worked but pole position was set that first weekend then there was a second weekend where
folks tried to bump in and there were plenty of cars so there was a lot of bumping and
yeah um but believe it or not brother yeah it used to be three weeks and again it was even longer
than that before that um to your point as much as they know now we know now about the cars and
everything about them and how they work you're right you're absolutely right this could be done
in one week just say that the spectacle side this is the only race in indy car that is filled with
lots of tradition and pageantry and so many things that happen across all of those days
i would hate to give that up the practical side to running as much as they do which is still not
much compared to the days of old is this one thing in with everything i've already mentioned about
tire modeling and everything else in mind you still need to go out and run in the ambient
conditions because you don't know what race day is going to be like and to have the
strongest possibility of getting the chassis set up right in order to win
the biggest race in our world at least i mean 24 hours limo is kind of the biggest
international race but at least for us here this is the biggest race in the world
this is something where running tuesday wednesday thursday even friday on high boost
whatever you can on saturday um realizers not so much running on sunday which is kind of
bump day and or pole day but um and then again on monday for a couple hours and then final on
carb day these multiple multiple days of running are all done to give teams the ability to run in
92 degrees sunny skies perfect everything thin air and then run in 64 degrees soupy cloud cover
thick air and humidity here there and track temp up track temp down since the cars evolve
every year in some way even if there's no like technical regulation changes tires will be a
different team to understand things motors will be tuned a little bit better different built a
little bit better different there's enough things where you go hey what we did last year is not
going to directly apply to this year we need to go out and run in all these different conditions
to build if we're thinking in terms of like spreadsheets multiple tabs this day at this time
these are the conditions this is how fast we went these were the settings on the car driver
loved it hated it hear the things we learned and then go to the other tab the next day wednesday
it was this it was that all these things are being constantly measured documented so you
know as you get to race day you go okay the forecast says this but hey here we are race morning and
it is indeed 66 degrees and overcast ah we ran in 64 degrees in overcast this is where we're looking
for primary information on chassis setup there'll be some adjustments to that of course
but this is our guide that in a nutshell is why as many days of practice happen to be used
to your point it could be shortened I do like the drawn out aspect to this
and it does make the event feel way more special to me in this form but I realize that if you're
new to the sport and maybe haven't been through a bunch of these month of maize it might just feel
a little bit odd maybe that will change as you go through more and maybe you want more or maybe
exactly how you see it right now we'll stick with you and you can be saying come on man
just get to the damn race quit farting around all these days um Nathan de rover uh you were
going to close with you and I do indeed appreciate everyone who's hung out for this long it is 8 58
p.m um asked did ellio really park his own car with four to go just so he could be at shank side
for the finish he did not um spoke with crew chief car chief I don't know how you should phrase
matt swan's role um said look ellio was saying there was something funky happening with the right
rear came in I think he said they changed tires went back out said he was still feeling it and
the decision was made we're already multiple laps down we are not going to have any kind of
quality finish um with where we are right um safety for our living legend is first and foremost
and so the call was made to park the car and so him being there to celebrate I love that narrative
and who knows maybe he'll tell us that indeed that's what he decided to do and there was never an
issue with the right rear but as uh it was described to me by a dear old friend um this was indeed
saying you know what we have nothing to gain by staying out and if there is indeed something
that's going wrong um destroying the car risking injury to you is that the call you make if you're
go for glory man we're here we're doing this drive for five let I mean let's roll the dice
how do you feel I feel good let's do it cool then you stay out with them kind of farting around
out of real a real competitive place this to me is it's the smart call even if it's not the one that
you want to see made but uh that's what I understand Nathan all right y'all uh I hope
that I got to most of yours Ron Grossman asking if I would consider doing a meet and greet and
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endeavor to do better hope I get to see you at gateway if not I will see you at road america
for sure and other than that I'll speak to y'all here super soon
About this episode
The Marshall Pruett Podcast runs through IndyCar’s June news cycle, starting with the Indy 500 workload and rolling into Detroit and Gateway. Will Power’s Detroit struggles get pinned on a starting/sequence issue, while the hosts zoom out to points, Honda vs Chevy drivability, and how fuel saving and cautions swing outcomes. They also dig into IndyCar’s evolving engine rules, “silly season” driver-market talk, and the tech behind tire modeling and simulation—plus a few paddock notes and race-week logistics.
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