The Dodge Challenger is a muscle car—basically a performance car built to be fast, with strong engines and a sporty look. People talk about older Challengers because certain years and specific cars became well known in racing. That’s why it comes up when discussing favorite cars and memorable race cars.
In IndyCar, “ovals” are tracks that are shaped like an oval, with mostly left turns. Cars and driving techniques are tuned specifically for that kind of track.
A “simulation engineer” uses modeling and simulation tools to predict how the car will behave and to help interpret driver feedback. Their work supports tuning decisions by estimating what changes might improve speed, balance, and tire behavior.
“Tuning the car” means making setup changes so the car drives the way the driver needs. On oval tracks, that can be the difference between feeling stable and feeling hard to control.
Person
Joseph
They’re praising a driver named Joseph for being very consistent. The idea is that he can push the car hard on an oval track but still avoid big mistakes from lap to lap.
They’re talking about Alex Palou and how he’s great at driving very consistently. The host thinks if he can become just as strong on oval tracks as he is on road and street courses, he could win even more championships.
A road course is a type of race track with lots of turns, more like driving on real roads. It usually requires different driving skills than oval racing.
This means the pit lane was available for teams to stop and service the car. When that timing is right, it can help you avoid problems later and keep your position in the race.
This refers to a sudden, urgent response when something goes wrong with the car. The host is saying they were trying to avoid having to deal with that kind of interruption.
Person
kobi ashimaru
They’re referencing a past situation involving someone named Kobi Ashimaru. The point is that it sounds like a risky “try to make it work” moment to avoid a bigger problem.
During a caution, IndyCar can restrict when teams are allowed to enter the pits. If you go in when the pits are “closed” for a non-emergency reason, you may get penalized.
“On the lead lap” means you haven’t been lapped by the leader. If you lose a lap due to strategy or penalties, it’s harder to recover even if you keep driving.
Concept
pay the proverbial piper
It’s an idiom meaning “you made a choice, and now you have to deal with the consequences.” In racing, that usually means the penalty or downside shows up on track.
Telemetry is the car’s data that gets sent to the team during the race. It helps them judge things like how much fuel is left and whether they can safely delay or time a pit stop.
Term
pit with everybody else
It means waiting until most teams can pit normally, instead of doing an earlier stop that could be against the rules. The timing affects where you rejoin the race.
“Seagull” sounds like a name used for a particular car in the story, but it doesn’t clearly identify the exact vehicle by make and model. To explain it accurately, I’d need a bit more information—like the year or the full name of the car. If you paste a little more of that part of the transcript, I can clarify what it is.
Race control is the officials’ command center during the race. They watch what happens on track and decide if something needs a penalty or if it’s just normal racing contact.
A “no call” means race control decides not to issue a penalty or formal ruling for an incident. It’s essentially the opposite of a penalty call, even if drivers were close or there was contact.
“Turn one” is the first big corner on the track. Because everyone is bunched up there, it’s a common spot for close calls and crashes.
Term
maximum speed
“Maximum speed” means trying to go as fast as possible through the corner and out the other side. Drivers do that by choosing the right racing line and keeping the car gripping the road.
“Day glow liveries” are the super-bright, almost fluorescent paint jobs you’d see on race cars. They’re meant to be really eye-catching on TV and from far away.
Brand
Minards
“Minards” here is a sponsor name tied to the race car paint scheme. Sponsors often choose the colors and logos you see on the car.
Car
swift 010
“Swift 010” is a specific race-car chassis model number. It’s basically the “version” of the car’s main structure used in that IndyCar season.
Car
eagle 997
“Eagle 997” is a specific IndyCar chassis model. Think of it as the car’s “version” that teams used in that time period.
Detroit refers to an IndyCar street-racing event held on city streets, where traction, braking zones, and setup changes can swing lap times quickly. The host mentions Armstrong “fought like heck at Detroit,” framing it as a tough, high-variance race environment.
Road America is a famous IndyCar track. It’s the kind of circuit where setup and tire management matter a lot, so a strong weekend can really change how a season looks.
Will Power is an IndyCar driver the host thinks might need a strong weekend. They’re talking about how his championship position is surprising and how many things can affect results.
A “buyout number” is the price to get out of a contract early. If a driver isn’t performing as hoped, teams may look at that number to see how hard or expensive it would be to switch drivers.
Scott McLaughlin is an IndyCar driver the host thinks may need a big result. They mention he’s working with a new race engineer, so there’s extra time needed to learn and improve together.
A race engineer is the person on the team who helps the driver by using data to suggest car changes. When it’s a new engineer, the driver and team often need time to learn each other’s feedback and preferences.
A “spec car era” is when race cars are made to be very similar across teams. That way, nobody can win just because they have a totally different, better car.
A “single source chassis supplier” means the series largely uses the same car body/structure for everyone. It’s meant to keep teams from gaining an unfair advantage from the car itself.
This means everyone uses the same tires and the same type of transmission. When those big parts are the same, teams can’t gain as much by tuning hardware and must rely more on race decisions.
A “caution” is when the race slows down because of something on track. Drivers follow the pace car, and teams often change their pit plans because the race is under control.
“Cycling the field” is what happens when cautions let teams pit in a staggered order. When cars come back out, the running order can change based on who pitted first and when they rejoined the track.
“Closing the pits” means race officials temporarily stop teams from pitting. It’s done to keep pit timing from creating a big unfair advantage during a messy race moment.
“Silly season” is the time in racing when people start guessing which drivers will move to different teams. It’s basically rumor season before anything is officially confirmed.
Term
12 punch
“12 punch” here means the team has a stronger set of cars/drivers working together to score points. The host is saying the team got better once they added a key driver to fill out the lineup.
A “local yellow” means there’s a caution in only part of the track. That can affect race strategy, like when teams pit or how drivers line up for the next restart.
“Barber” is a race track where IndyCar runs. It has a lot of twisty corners and hard braking, so small setup and strategy differences can decide the race.
Outright pace is basically how fast the car is on its own. It’s different from winning because of strategy or timing—outright pace is about pure speed.
Pit lane is the special lane where race cars pull in to get serviced during the race. When you pit (and how fast the stop is) can change who ends up leading.
Topic
indie gp
“Indie GP” is an IndyCar race in Indianapolis. It’s a track where strategy and pit timing can be just as important as outright speed.
Term
points separating
“Points separating” refers to how far apart drivers or teams are in the championship standings based on accumulated race results. Large gaps can indicate a consistent performance difference, not just a one-off bad weekend.
It means making big changes instead of minor adjustments. The idea is that if small tweaks aren’t working, you try a more dramatic fix to improve results.
Renus VK is a race driver in IndyCar. The hosts are saying he’s driving so well that it’s helping his team improve a lot this season, especially on street tracks.
Connor Love is another IndyCar driver being compared to Renus VK. They mention that last year he struggled with how the car felt on street courses, to the point it sounded almost impossible to drive well.
Term
rodent streets
This sounds like a transcription glitch, but the point is about street-course racing—tight city-style tracks with lots of bumps and less grip. The hosts are saying the car behaved much worse there than on oval tracks.
“Undriveable” means the car is so hard to control that the driver can’t drive it the way they need to. Here, they’re talking about street-track conditions where the car apparently felt almost impossible to manage.
They’re saying that when one car/driver is doing well, it can boost the whole team’s morale. That doesn’t magically change the car’s physics, but it can help people work better and stay more focused.
Scott Dixon is mentioned as a benchmark in the IndyCar championship standings. The hosts say Renus VK is wedged between Scott Dixon and Alexander Rossi, highlighting how close VK is to top championship contenders.
Alexander Rossi is another IndyCar driver in the championship standings. The hosts say he’s had some problems at major events (like Indy 500) and that his current position is lower than it should be.
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Welcome to the Marshall Proof Podcast in your weekend IndyCar listener Q&A.
According to this, on a Thursday evening heading into a weekend, the first weekend in,
I don't know, it feels like a really long time with no motor racing.
So for those of you who love whether it's IndyCar, IMSA, F1, NASCAR, whatever, I'm sure
there's something on this weekend, I don't know, a little 24 hours of lamans.
There should be plenty of stuff to keep you more than entertained.
But at least for me, this is going to be the first weekend off, no motor racing to cover
live or remotely in, I don't know how long, but can tell you that I do appreciate you.
The many questions you sent in coming out of Gateway, also known as Worldwide Technology
Raceway. Take a little beat here, a little pause and then head into good old Road America.
I get to go to Road America three times this year, y'all.
IndyCar event coming up, actually staying over in the general northeasterly region.
I've got the Watkins Glen IMSA race the following weekend.
I actually travel from Watkins, fly out of Milwaukee Monday, head to South Carolina.
Really important meeting there, one that I just hope to be able to tell you more about
in the near future, but could be a really, really important thing for myself, my wife,
just future and client opportunities, but going to do that, then fly up Tuesday morning.
From South Carolina to good old Buffalo and then drive two-ish hours,
south-east-ish to good old Watkins Glen, staying in the little town of Corning,
great maker of glassware. So anyways, that's going to be the busy, busy start of a, I don't know,
10-11 plus day trip here coming up. Get home at some point in time during the race weekend
for the Watkins Glen six hours, Mrs. Pruitt's birthday is just right after that. So I'm going
to get home hopefully a little bit early for that. And then, yeah, what in July? Get to go back for a
really awesome vintage event where all American racers and the Eagle mark is being celebrated
again. And then I think a week and a half or two weeks later, I get to go back for the IMSA
Enduro there. So yeah, things are picking up, y'all, but things are really good on the motor
racing front. Been doing okay on the home front. So many of you ask and are so sweet. Just a week
ago today, wife Chabrell had cancer related surgery won't get into what and all that, but
wasn't a big surgery, but she's doing super well. Finally, I don't know if it was there at the
hospital itself or if it was before right after, but picked up some sort of cold or flu,
don't know what, but not having an immune system. These kinds of things are actually
really, really important to look after. So I was over in the little town of Atherton today at a
specialist trying to get more knowledge about what's wrong. But today is really about the first
day where she is feeling decent. And so that means that I'm in a place where I can sit here and record
this at 7.37pm on a Thursday evening and know that she is currently having a little bit of rest. So
thanks once again to the kindness so many of y'all have shared with us knowing that yeah,
we're in for some real fun here. Big thanks as well to some really sweet things that have been
sent. Jerry Siddoth, who puts together the show for us, grabs all your questions, puts them in
orders that he thinks would be fun and interesting and sends those send those along. Jerry sent a
really cool letter that he wrote handwritten letter from one of the events that he was at. So
thank you for thinking of me to send that. Also our friend Matt Philpot, one of the leaders of
the Prude Listener group of which I urge you to join. It's cool to be able to help him and his
daughter Tenly get to meet Pato Award at the recent Detroit Grand Prix. And so they sent along a
really nice card and Tenly drew a really cool thing for me. So just yeah, the kindness is honestly
um
things have been pretty heavy for a little while. And I do everything my power to not let on
because y'all aren't here for that. But I can just say that the whether it's a text or an email or
a card or whichever those things really and truly do make such a huge difference to just lift things
up in and among social media comments where I'm always being told that I'm a bleep and I have no
balls and this and that and all the normal keyboard warrior stuff that comes along. It's just really
sweet to have these things coming in from so many of you. So there you go. Gonna say big thanks as
well to the Justice Brothers who support the show and have for 10 years now. And TorontoMotorsports.com
makers of just Modify and automotive motor racing related memorabilia. Really cool stuff you can
pick up from their TorontoMotorsport.com site. Original show partner. So yeah 11 years now.
And then we finally I think since the last episode crossed over 11 million downloads
and also over crossed the 1700 episode threshold. So I think this is going to be 1702.
So anyways there you go. All right let's get into your questions. And we actually open with one here
from a dear friend Justin Gurney. The big eagle one of Dan Gurney's sons noting that in I guess the
show tune we use here one of them is Dan's all time favorite car. The 81 Pepsi Challenger Mike
Mosley drove qualified right up front the 8500 one right after a huge drive from the back to the
front at the Milwaukee mile. Justin just wrote in and said the 81 Pepsi Challenger Eagle always
brings a smile to my face. I know that's not a question but dot dot dot. Hey anytime my dear
friend Justin wants to send in something. Question or not. Jerry knows. We'll just put that right at
the top of the show. Can't wait to see Justin and the whole family here at Road America as I mentioned
mid to late July at Road. Road love. We're just going to call it what it is. It's road love.
All right let's get into first question. Christopher Carzoli doing Christopher says while
listening to Joseph Newgarden's post-race interview in Victory Lane he was asked about why he has had
all this success on short ovals. It says of course he gave the typical Penske response. It's a great
current team. I personally think. All right Christopher that's one of the rules of the show.
No need for that right. Unless you impersonally think but anyways hashtag me personally. Christopher
says I personally think there's some truth in that but I'm not buying it. Are you buying it? Well
of course because he drives a great car for a great team. So those two things are absolute facts.
The part that Joseph omitted and it is very much in his character to do so. It's the
proverbial nut behind the wheel that makes the real difference. You have many great teams in Indycar
and of those let me rephrase that. There are a number of great teams in Indycar.
Three-ish maybe four terms of being able to go up do huge things win races and do it on a consistent
basis. Big difference though is in that three car team Joseph was driving for. He is the one
who went to the front took the lead multiple times and won the dang thing wouldn't be
denied. He did that at Phoenix. He's done that all over the place. You look at pick the other team
right? Aaron McLaren always usually a threat on ovals not at Gateway though right? It's one of
the things that stood out. They were never there not once. There was no point in time during that
race where anybody from Aaron McLaren looked like they had anything that was going to bother
whomever was leading or even running second place. Same thing at the Indy 500 right?
Did okay at Phoenix but that's a bit of an oddity just to spot here and I know the question
is about Joseph. We'll get back to that in just a second but think about the teams that are normally
badasses on ovals. Aaron McLaren certainly in that frame with Pato specifically. Really strange
to see them not be that team so far this year but then you look at a Chip Ganassi racing.
Alex Palo has become the best performer results wise at least on ovals. I don't know if he's more
talented than Scott Dixon on ovals. I just know if we look at results Alex has been the front
runner there for a little bit. Look at in Dreddy Global right? We know that Kyle Kirkwood a winner
of this race last year Marcus Erickson certainly came really close to being able to win this.
Plenty of teams here are exceptional, great and put great cars into the races. In theory this
should have been a Penske 123 or pick some of the other teams we expect to be just unified badasses
but then you realize that you know what Joseph is indeed the standout performer on ovals for this
team. So coming back it's that part of his personality where he's never been about pounding his
chest me me me. We don't really have many drivers like that if any to be honest but
he is capable of a couple of things that stand out on ovals. Short ovals in particular but seemingly
anywhere. Really amazing feel right? As a driver he is able to give just amazing feedback so that
helps his race engineer, that helps his performance engineer, simulation engineer, every engineer
that is in charge of tuning the car coming up with ideas of how to make it better, what to do
differently, what areas to explore that could make it a little bit better or solve problems.
So that's really where it starts. He is able to deliver dissertations of what's needed and it
doesn't have to be a long long one but that's a huge thing that he is able to do that not every
driver is capable of doing so that sets him apart from the vast majority not all but the majority.
Then you look at his raw speed. Good lord that man is fast. Short ovals, big ovals,
intermediates they all require some level of exceptional speed. With that well there's bravery
involved so his ability to demonstrate incredible speed using some daring which we have seen from
him over the years at Gateway years ago with Simon Pagano as a teammate him banging wheels to take
the lead in to turn one his own teammate just showed you this guy not just aggressive not just
ballsy but also filled with the belief that he can drive at that high level hold on to the car
get around the corner in great shape and go on and do another amazing lap after that.
So great feel amazing feel incredible speed plus bravery and that is required in these cars. It's
no longer hey it's 260 laps just survive right just kind of get through the first 220 or 30 and then
try hard the last little bit no it's more or less flat out the whole time even if they're doing fuel
saving they're still running on an edge and then you take the final thing which is critical and that
is consistency repeatability it's not that Joseph never makes mistakes right we've seen him spin
here and continue we've right it's not as if he's never crashed but more often than not
and the car is capable and he feels that hey I can push I can attack and this is going to lead
somewhere his ability to do that live out on that peruvial ragged edge corner after corner
lap after lap and do that with the consistency that allows that high level of speed to build
and build and be maintained that is really really amazing it's nothing new for him
been doing this for a long time but you think about all of those attributes hey someone put it
on pole by a million miles an hour great it was a single lap maybe it was an average of two maybe
it was an average of four but cool give me 200 of those or 260 or whatever the number is don't
miss your turn in point don't break too late if you're having to break on whichever oh don't
whatever the thing is it is being able to live on that absolute outer edge and do so with the
consistency the lack of little errors that separates Joseph and of course during that race
he got a little loose here went in a little shallow there was a little high and had to lift
right of course I'm not saying it was truly 260 laps of perfection but no driver has ever done that
in any race ever where every single lap every corner road course recourse oval no mistakes ever
made it's never happened but this is alex palo super power this is what he has done to achieve
so much success year after year and that is the absolute bare minimum of errors and the ability
to execute lap after lap at this insane level joseph specifically in this oval discipline
and basically been the blueprint of that alex has not achieved that on ovals he's achieved that road
and street courses we know he's obviously had success on ovals winning at the 500 right added
another win last year at Iowa so he's learning to apply that there but truly what we marvel at with
alex that's gotten him all these championships and wins this is something that joseph has been doing
on ovals for longer than alex has been an indie car if joseph can add that back in
and get some road course street course wins she hasn't been able to do since 2022
if he can bring that part of his game back we're absolutely looking at someone who can become a
three-time champ four-time champ and so on if alex who's already a four-timer seemingly not as close
but on a path to becoming a five-timer possibly if he is able to add that new garden-esque
metronomic dominance on ovals that he's been able to do already in the other indie car disciplines
like that is actually the scariest thing for those who hate pillows dominance says he makes
indie car boring and damaging it and folks don't want to watch because of it
just saying if he's able to add this on the ovals that argument's going to get really really hard to
push back on go to our pal shawn olmsted how you doing shawn says was someone in palosier telling
him to try and go and make it around when the pits were open to avoid emergency service was that
called just palona's own going for a hail mary either way that was a kobi ashimaru situation
oh boy look at that you got a kobi ashimaru reference that might be a first on the podcast
I can't think of any situations where alex truly just goes off on his own so that is something that
I would say they chose to do haven't heard his in-car radio but I would assume this was something
that they spoke about trying to do uh here's the thing dixon came right in right knew they're
going to incur the penalty there's a just automatic penalty for pitting during a closed pit
even if you're having to do it for a valid reason right emergency service it's one thing if you just
had a tire blow up or something like that and you know it's from a safety standpoint no penalty is
going to be applied there but from a competition standpoint that's the reason they were pitting
we are going to run out of fuel if we don't so we're going to pit during a closed pit situation
under yellow add some fuel no more than two seconds a splash and then when the pits open up we'll
come back in and do the full proper service there comes a penalty with this and so for pitting during
the closed pit receiving service dixon was ordered to the back of the field I think ended up losing
a lap I don't know if I have it in front of me to confirm but um he I do have in front of me here
dixon now he was on the lead lap um dixon went from being second at the time here I think right
behind alex or was he in front my brain's totally no he was leading um went from first place ended
up finishing 12th as a result of all this so okay uh the timing of the caution is one where it
basically caught dixon and alex out call was made to pay the proverbial piper right there with a
nine car they did was able to finish 12th obviously not as good as first but at least they were on the
lead lap uh guess the belief was that alex had saved more and or telemetry was saying there was
more in the tank causing the belief that he could circulate once things got going again
and could then just pit with everybody else likely on fumes uh but have enough to be able to do that
and hopefully hold on to the lead clearly didn't happen but obviously I'd like to think they would
not do that just as a big ale mary if they did that is something I would have to question them over
knowing that using the dixon example here yeah you're gonna risk falling back but finishing 11th
12th 13th somewhere in there ended up finishing 17th so not the end of the world uh and had he
finished up closer to scott he would have gotten 345 more points so it wasn't going to be a
huge difference but I'll just say their tendencies tend not to be kind of wild and let's just roll a
giant pair of dice for the sake of it had they been able to win I mean that would have been a pretty
amazing day in terms of points of course who knows how the race shakes out in this fantasy world of
if if but looking at where he let's just say could have gotten in under his own power refueled left
one finished second finished third somewhere in there feels like he would have probably been top
three top four um knowing that Kirkwood finished sixth well would have put some more distance
between himself and Kirkwood malukas was seventh so more distance to him um instead ended up having
pretty decent chunk of his lead carved away but not too scary of an amount we'll just come back to
the point of I cannot think of any reason they would have done this as a hail mary they must have
believed they'd saved enough to be able to get in indeed they were the length of the front straight
short and we'll see if this strategically call ends up being a thing 345 races from now
is something that really truly affects him right hey if Kirk or malukas or whomever
ends up taking the lead in the championship yeah this one is going to receive a lot of attention
on this call why why didn't you just follow dixon in pay the penalty right there come out with at
least a handful more points or given yourself more time to try and chase down and get more positions
back yeah um we'll just say this no guarantee how the next couple of races pan out but knowing
that the next stops on the good old indy car tour happened to be road america where what happened
last year well alex polo won and that good old solo cup liveried car and then what happened at
mid ohio the race after led more or less the whole thing obviously had that bobble of his own
making starting on pole at mid ohio ended up placing second behind dixon would say that
the next stop on the tour after mid ohio was nashville where alex finished second last year so
just saying there's no guarantee these are the places he will finish but if things go anything
similar to how they went last year for him he's heading into the next handful of races
where he could in theory do incredibly well like he's done in the past and potentially pad that
lead even more it's going to take some serious adversity for alex for that to not happen
kirk malukas run through the list of those who are attempting to knock the guy down
they're going to need to have amazing amazing runs over the next three races four races
portlands coming up after nashville the next three to four races polo could balloon that
lead yet again and since he's not the type to just magically run poorly and hand a bunch of
points back to folks at the tracks we're going to the next four races it's truly going to need to be
more adversity whether it's strategically mechanical failures getting knocked off the track
this is the wedge that's the takeaway here from gateway what happened he's now had two
very bad finishes this year that early crash at phoenix finished next the last 24th
gateway falling back to 17th gotten the points lead cut right kirk sitting 49 points back it's
just under one full race a year ago for those of you who like numbers or who track such things
alex's lead at this exact point after nine races 93 points championship was over he's just
managing it from there on out it's not exactly a half of that but close enough this is a situation
where if someone is going to strike and truly turn this championship upside down
rhoda america mid ohio gotta do something these are his absolute superpower tracks
nashville he's been amazingly good at and then portland where he just celebrated the
championship last year with two races to run so pivotal pivotal for this uh next race coming up on
the one right after uh eric franklin says i recall the first race that wwt are included joseph hip
checking simon in turn one similar enough to the action between nullan seagull and alex polo still a
good no call do you think by race control said back with the joseph deal simon didn't end up on the
wall so easier to call but man that didn't look great for alex in the 10 car alex fired in to
turn one in a manner that said to me at least that he believes he's the only one there he knew he
wasn't obviously knew that no one was in front of him but he was trying to use turn one turn in
point his speed the arc through the corner as if he was going through there solo trying to maintain
maximum speed carving through traffic try not to get caught problem is to do that you're entering
sufficiently far over to the right drivers right well that's where no one happened to be
no one's takeaway and being a nice respectful young man in his interview after the crash of saying
well i still need to see it but also saying i felt like i gave him enough room and he did
this was greediness on alex's part it's exactly what it was no more no less wasn't him trying to
trying to wreck no one that would be stupid he could wreck himself if he was trying to hit him so
no intentional contact being made but this was greediness starting to cut through traffic
this is where i catch people and i know i can get caught so i'm going to try and set up
as far right as i think i can go to maintain as much speed through the corner as possible
and in doing that went too far to the right stayed too long should have turned in a
little bit sooner would have created a tiny amount of space between himself and no one made it safe
made it safe for himself and no one to get through the corner but it would have compromised his
corner entry speed a little bit which would have then compromised his corner exit speed
and that's where he would have been at risk of someone chasing him down whether it was turn three
or the lap after so this was not alex or any driver in that scenario thinking i'm afraid of
being passed right now it's trying to play one or two or three or however many corners ahead
and so this was just being an unkind member of the driver community
would just add it's important to say it because it's real the guy's the champion doesn't mean
that you get to do that because you are a champion but you just need to understand the mindset of a
champion mindset of the race leader who is also the champion and the poll sitter and the person
leading the championship that you see what is in front of you as yours a driver like no one who's
obviously about to get passed by the leader because he's not having a great day
hold on as best he can doesn't want to be lapped but is not fighting alex to the point of creating
contact alex chose contact let me rephrase that i don't believe alex truly tried to hit the kid
just saying alex chose to go through the corner in a manner that ultimately led to contact
just close here by saying the hey just back it down a little bit and turn in a little early
and give up a little bit and you know just deal with it that's the thought that we have
as fans as reporters as whatever like for those of us who are not in the arena that's how we think
and it is absolutely not how the polos new gardens run down the certified badasses think
so just want to be cautious here from outside the car saying these are all the things that he
did wrong none of what alex did was wrong from his viewpoint perspective all the things that i set up
about his success what he does how he does it that comes from a place where you see what's in
front of you as yours okay there's a thing in here that might compromise my ability to get through
okay but guess what i'm not giving up anything if i don't have to i'm going to try and go through
here as if there was nobody there contact happened and the guy got crashed out well hey i do feel
sorry about that i didn't want that to happen for you but you weren't in my race you're in the way
it's not a happy mindset if you're the person getting hit
also got to be honest here pick your favorite sport i'm watching the mba finals right now and
boy we are seeing some hunter killer mindset whether it is a jailen brunson uh
not too many others admittedly beyond jailen brunson but um this is the hunter killer mindset
coming out it involves greed and it occasionally comes with casualties and i hate that for nolan
because the kid needs every finish he can get every good finish he could potentially earn and
this really came at a bad time for him uh rich zegata it's not a question just giving miles row
his flowers what an absolute butt kicking indeed this performance of his is what peaked the interest
of a willpower in carting back in north carolina many many years ago this kind of talent is what
made will say i've got to find a way to create opportunities for this kid and some awesome
inbound calls had a call sunday from dear friend willy t ribb to talk about miles uh performance
and what it might lead to in the future and many other things but we're just recounting
how cool it is to see him doing things like what he did at gateway which just after a period
where realized that he had a podium at detroit but things were backsliding and not in a good direction
to see him have this stand out effectively drive of his life uh boy it just yeah yeah so many of
us are rejoicing i love the fact that you are as well and many others too uh staying on the
miles topic with our pal kody oakwood says even if a full-time ride isn't in the cards for miles row
how far does his masterclass drive uh go and earning him an 8500 ride so answered that this week in
the uh racer mail bag i think it was the opening question
realize that i don't know if this was ever really spelled out as clearly as it could have been
or maybe it was kody and it's just been long enough that uh i've forgotten and maybe others have
forgotten but the whole goal with the race for equality and change program established by roger
penske bankrolled by roger penske is to get a black driver first and foremost into the 8500
hopefully into the indycar series in a larger capacity not just the 500 this has always been the goal
miles been the person with most continuity in that program miles was dropped uh picked up
ernie francis jr paid for a year or two of him in indy nxt slash indy lights didn't exactly pan out
but then in around that time miles was picked up again and uh really is the the person leading
it continuing to lead that for roger this was always the plan it was just the needing for miles to
learn demonstrate do big things won the usf pro 2000 championship now in his third season of nxt
won two races last year just won his first of this season this was exactly what was needing
to happen kody to activate an indy 500 seat it's the boy we hope it could be more than that though
and that's where miles needs to show us more
the goal the intent has been for something with penske and not necessarily a team penske entry
but a foite entry that was described to me in an interview with former team penske president
tim syndrick when uh revealed the news of the new technical alliance that had been formed between
penske and aj foite racing one of the items that tim mentioned in the providing dampers
set up information and what would soon become an engineering support as well like actual staff
also looking to place some potential crew members there work with the foite team on the chassis build
right so the way they built their cars matched the way penske built theirs
part of this alignment between the two teams that tim mentioned was
we know here we expect in the near future to have a need to
to place miles within that foite team so good to get started now help them roger and aj foite go
as far back as you can go they've been having a really tough time roger wanted to help
great saw some great opportunities for us right also um train and develop new people younger staff
and so on but then also this is a great landing spot if everything goes the way we hope it will
for miles so that was laid out uh 23 years ago at least when all this came together
just to close here and you can maybe read a little bit more in depth about this if you want
on racer um there was a anticipated timeline with this kody this is just where things get
a little bit more complicated and if you care about miles and um here you go and if not hit that
fast forward button um there was a anticipation belief thought that he'd be tearing through
indian xt and getting into whatever it was that was going to happen in indycar sooner the hope was
he'd only need a year but at most it'd be two well in that time david malukas went into the
second car there last season and did super well and was then promoted upwards timeline if miles
had needed two years of nxt to not just get ready in terms of learning but demonstration right
win the championship finish second or third but just something pretty serious didn't happen year one
didn't happen year two uh okay well we can't just hold the seat open and hope that it's going to
get filled by miles we need as a team a j-foight racing as a business to place someone in it
and so kyle collett able to bring some great brazilian sponsors with him able to pay more than half
of what it takes to run that car on an annual basis and great well the timing for miles to step in
in either 2025 was there wasn't ready got it malukas great year vacuumed up to the big team got it
2026 still not ready well need to find some and hey this kid just finished second in nxt and he's
proven to be a badass and bring some pretty healthy sponsorship as well this is just where
things get complicated because the well where does miles go kyle decides to leave which he could
and who knows there might be another team wanting to sign them up see how well the rest of his rookie
season goes but if miles is looking to do a full season somewhere it would it have to involve
a seat opening up at a j-foight racing both of their drivers are on one-year deals one-year
contract with an option for a second don't pretend to know whether it's a driver-based option or
team-based activation of that option quite often the team they're often a deadline that says hey if
we don't take it up by june 1st august whatever it might be july 1st that well you're free to go
wherever don't know the details just know that if they were to hold on to both well miles doesn't
have a spot unless roger wants to pay for him to go somewhere else and i don't believe that was ever
the plan of paying for all this and then not having him within the greater penske racing empire
so then with the new rules coming in next year that says no team can run extra cars anywhere
other than the indy 500 the ability to put a third foite car in the field for half a season
or whatever else it's gone as of the end of 2026 so the timing here is just the hard part
um i wish miles had been ready a end of at this point last year because i think we could have
seen him in a foite car part-time full time i don't know what amount of time but by the time he'll
be ready i just don't know if there's going to be much for him other than an extra entry at the indy
500 uh eliot zellman he's doing eliot says amazing throwback livery by penske this weekend
got me wondering if you could bring back any classic indy car livery for a one-off throwback
which would you want to see would it be team cool green the target lightning bolt cars the 1990s
minnard schemes oh that's a great one or something else entirely an eliot like so many of you signs
off with kindness is saying best wishes to the family so racer dot com editor mark lendening
a mighty fine human being uh reached out yesterday to myself and some of the other editor contributor
type saying hey want to do a world cup bracket knockout rounds of indy car liveries and could
you send through 10 or 12 of your favorites and so i'm just trying to pull it open now i not all
of mine made it in but i can't say i think a lot of them did so i'm mentioning this because uh boy i
feel like i pooped the bed on forgetting the uh minnards liveries that uh boy that was dumb i
genuinely should have thought of something there but um did get in a number of mine and
i'm just going to pull it up so my brain remembers a little bit um what did we have here
how's this the 89 march
Porsche that quaker state livery one of my all-time favorites i'd even go back and on that car it looks
extra phenomenal not so much the 88 that march 88 was just kind of porky but the 87 the actual
Porsche chassis the quaker state livery on that the white wheels which didn't get used a ton but
that might actually be the most beautiful version of that car uh to me so i'd say that one for sure
boy those day glow liveries the minards whether it was the yellow the orange the what we had a blue
it a great like they were so good weren't they so i think elliot like right there you've got
some amazing options recently uh found some hero cards some minards hero cards from that
really amazing mid 90s indy 500 era and was just taken aback by the gorgeousness of the colors
having seen them live back then but just seeing them again even just on hero cars was like oh my
goodness um so yeah that quaker state livery just always gonna love that the target the
lightning bolt cars those always win one that i threw in which i'm surprised made the list for voting
uh 1999 on the topic of day glow and that being robbie gordon's whether it was that swift uh the
swift 010 uh he also used the eagle 997 that year but kind of same admittedly modeled off of the
minards day glow colors john's manville was one of the sponsors there but robbie seemed to take
just about all of the amazing minards day glow colors and chuck them on to the car so i think the
eagle version with the actual eagle on the nose like that one was my one of my contributions to the uh
the the voting options here on racer so maybe that one there's some other the deeper cuts of the ones
that i love so i know that there's a lot of obvious ones the day glow stp turbine and of course any
of the maulbrough liveries and so on but yeah maybe we need to to do that uh some of the the deep cut
deep cut indy car liveries that might make for a i'd say a fun episode this is audio so that probably
wouldn't work but maybe uh do something for youtube um with a podcast episode here just purely for
joy and love i think i might might do that here during the off season send those in and then
uh i'll take your submissions for your favorite kind of non everybody knows and loves this right
uh but the deeper cuts and do something fun there with a little podcast video output should also
mention here and i probably should have done this the beginning of intentionally taken a little bit
of time off from the youtube podcasts not that there's any problem there but um i just haven't
had it in me y'all um i gotta be in a place where i i gotta be in a place uh to be able to want
to be able to want to do that and
don't want y'all to see me in a state of like brain-deadness or just funk so
we'll get back to those here hopefully next week leading into rhoda america or who knows but anyways
thank you for your patience they're great great item elliot uh let's see darin foster
says which driver has impressed you the most over the last three races despite
the results not showing it all right let me pull up the results because my brain being an enemy
does not have that in front of me uh who's impressed me the most without the results to
necessarily back that up uh
no not him he's been doing amazing uh no not him um
i mean i think kyo right kyle collett crash at indy was really unfortunate the kid was doing
big stuff there uh the motor demotoring itself while the kid's chasing his best ever result at
gateway right uh detroit wasn't amazing but boy look at either side of that if we're talking the
last three races he really stands out to me as someone who deserves more uh or i should say
recognition for what he's been able to do
but say as well this isn't necessarily the last three
say lundgaard christian lundgaard um indy wasn't phenomenal wasn't phenomenal for anyone at
aeron mclaren already discussed that but fifth at detroit that was just solid good rebound
but his tenth at gateway first aeron mclaren driver home hotho was right behind him in 11th but
saw one of his post race comments where he felt like this was actually really a a amazing
connective event hey i put a lot of things together here and i realized i wasn't a way in
or anything even close but that stood out to me it's like hey uh if you can lead hotho in any
oval that's amazing weekend where they just missed the hole they they didn't even miss the setup they
lost the setup um i thought he did something that was worthy of recognition uh for sure after that
probably say marcus armstrong fifth at indy was was significant fought like heck at detroit right
that was a real up and down event came back to 11th there was looking like he was going to have a
better result at gateway but ninth there as well um kid showing he has got something i don't know if i
do know it's not something that's going to beat alex polo in a season long championship
but i'd say he is showing something that i believe is going to peak the interest of bigger teams
and in a contract year that's not a bad thing for him at all so um i'd throw him in as well
says next question here from darin who needs a big result at rote america more than anyone else
is a fascinating qualifier here i will go with i mean part of me is leaning will power
sure knowing that he is signed a multi-year deal i'm sure it's going to be honored
but i do worry
there's a come a point where things don't turn around and significantly so where buyers or
more sets in and someone says hey um what's the buyout number i'm not saying i've heard that has
happened i haven't this is just again all things that run through the back of my head purely my brain
but a really strong weekend for will i think would be phenomenal he's 17th in the championship y'all
it's the craziest thing no one ever would have imagined not all is fault some of it is but it's
not all is fault but enough of this is something where you go there's no single factor sometimes
it's been will sometimes it's been the team sometimes it's been a cartoon anvil sometimes
it's been another driver it's just though been the thing nobody expected within the team
and is so far from what the team thought it was going to have that i do just worry about
if this doesn't turn around quickly
so uh i would say the only other driver that jumps out to me in a really need something big
from a road america timing standpoint i'd say scott mcglacklin so first year with a new race
engineer race engineer is super talented but hasn't been in any car for a long time um they're
uh i mean pato has worn out fourth and fifth place this year of the nine races i'm just counting
123456 finishes of either fourth or fifth lundgaard a lot more up and down
all right uh pato still chasing his first podium christian had three
that is ultimately why he is in front of pato by a tiny amount in the standings obviously that
victory at indie helping points wise as well but this is a situation where maybe except for
everything went perfectly for christian at barber we know the pit stop didn't help but like
there was the possibility of winning but actually winning did not happen and so
this is the change so when we go to road america i expect the two of them to do very well
well but i've seen no evidence to believe that on outright pace strategy and pit stops
that they can win in all three areas with one of their cars to surpass a polo kirk malukas
pensky drut right if they do then that is evidence that they have found something that
has not been demonstrated those three pillars right pure speed race strategy pit lane
a saw three of them ace at least two of them you're going to be in a great situation
been able to do that in two areas at barber but not three uh was able to do that in
definitely two areas at indie gp to win that we just say the show up put it on the table
show everybody you're number one um we haven't seen that from them yet and that's a change so
so the bigger question i'd ask mark are we seeing the
ultimate expression of what this team and its current driver composition can be
know that they can be better they finished p2 last year with pato right giant gap in the standings
right almost 200 points separating alex from pato in the final standings 196 points i think
96 94 i forget but we've never seen that kind of gap like in the history of earth kind of
so p2 but like you're in a different championship type gap but this is also a case where pato won
a couple of races let me go back and look and just count how many podiums pato had last year
123456 podiums two of those being wins and then a heck of a bunch of
fourths and fifths and sixths but basically you couldn't get the guy either off the podium or
so it's the slight step back this year
is that the team fallen back is that their competitors getting better and actually right
maybe aro mclaren hasn't gotten worse maybe the teams that have gotten ahead of them have just
made greater gains i do wonder if the
do we have the team composition we need to actually challenge for a championship
i do wonder if those questions are going to start to rise within the team
i wonder if they've already started to rise within the team they are just to close on this
uh christian and pato are currently encircled by penske drivers malukas is almost 30 points
up on lundgaard sitting p3 new garden is one point behind pato mcglacklin's almost 20 points
behind pato but you've got a penske 367 in the standings surrounding an aro mclaren 45
um with a good rote america good mid ohio good nashville by joseph and or mcglacklin
not as if the McLaren boys wouldn't have good events but i'm just saying if things go exceedingly
well for the penske team the next couple of rounds we could see one or more of those front
running aro mclaren drivers demoted to like fifth sixth seventh like yeah so this is the thing where
i'm starting to wonder whether a need to blow things up
might be where to change the thought process i hope that things go amazingly for pato and christian
and they're able to get way closer to polo kirkwood malukas etc and truly vie for a championship
that'd be amazing but if that doesn't happen this year
you start to ask yourself
do we just make modest changes again or do we take a big swing because that's what's needed to catch
those who are in front of us uh get to the last couple of questions here and then we will say fair
well lin underscore indy car how you doing lin uh sorry that your spurs and my spurs are currently
yeah all-time record loss in the finals oh boy uh lin says seems that mark sarixon is having his
best year since leaving ganassi uh has he done enough to earn another contract with indreddy uh
if so what happens to the norwegian nightmare at coin and closes by saying ghost spurs go
no marcus has not i think he should receive a contract extension i'd be so happy if that were
to happen but i have heard of some other drivers that are being pursued and yeah
no here's my thought process and it doesn't answer well it gives a little bit of color to your
question here so call kirkwood p2 he's gonna finish for a second or third in the standings
right somewhere in there unless crazy stuff happens and he has a terrible close to the season but
we know that he's good enough to be champ second place third place right he should be there every
year of his career so uh we know that about him marcus was what was he last season at this time
after nine races i'd looked it up and it kind of sort of blew my mind last year at this point marcus
was 19th in the championship there is no driver who has made a bigger jump year to year from the
midpoint of last season to the midpoint of this season then marcus creaking ericsson sitting ninth
10 position improvement only like really significant change in the race engineering side where ron bar
hoarse been with indreddy for a long time been a assistant engineer race engineer as well with uh
some of the the lesser scenarios unfortunately but
two of them putting in great work marcus driving with more venom than i've ever seen and i think he's
realized being the chill sneaky swede what like no i need high energy marcus ericsson behind the
steering wheel i need pissed off guy point to prove guy um that guy putting in more work than ever
that guy realized p9 isn't p5 or whatever but still sitting in the top 10 for them right now
at this point last year kirk was sitting p2 as well and his closest teammate
colton herda and p10 so just trying to give a little bit of context a year ago
indreddy had two drivers in the top 10 second and 10th and then marcus way the hell down
super disappointing for everybody p19 this year indreddy has two drivers in the top 10 at this
point one position improvement year over year with marcus sitting ninth to colton's 10th last year
sharing all that because
hopefully will turns his season around things are awesome
can just tell you though that knowing how vast of a disappointment the year has been so far with will
if i'm looking to the future knowing that kirk is locked up for a while realize that ericsson's
out of contract as well as he has been performing based on the free agents that are available
based on the free agents that i understand the team is interested in
i look at marcus and say i am signing him to a one year extension with an option team option for one more year after that
and i am maintaining stability of course they want to be first second and third in the standings
look at kirk look at his race engineer his race strategist chief mechanic
they're all home run hitters working as an amazing unit
very few drivers i can think of they could import who would get close to matching what they're doing
but they want to be closer i get that well i'm just saying as strange as this year has been
for the highest profile driver acquisition in the world
sitting 17th a 10 position drop that's another wild thing within indreddy global
and marcus ericsson with the biggest year to year gain of 10 positions in the championship
and the crazy high profile driver they brought in owns the biggest year to year drop of 10 positions
i'm looking at the team saying hey we got something that works here
this is largely because ericsson is performing like we had hoped can perform better
but we got something let's hold on to that for another year and build off of that
if that's what's needed right give will a little bit more time to get more out of himself get settled
etc hopefully marcus does even better things and they say we got to hold on to him for another year
i mean
situation with will is just one to where unless things get drastically better right now
and he's championship aspirations are gone a while ago but if will becomes the guy who's living in and around the podium like they had hoped
then i would say they could look at marcus and say you're expendable
the part that's interesting coming back to the denis hauser side
dale coin didn't want to let him go it's not their choice but dale told me we haven't heard anything yet haven't been told
they're going to bring him up to the mothership and he'll be gone or not but has said we would love to hold on to the kids so
i think a second year at coin would not be the worst thing for denis more problems than you would hope for there vehicularly but
andretti has this unique situation here to consider and it's a wider question than what you'd asked but
i don't know how many years will's deal is i believe it's three years
i don't know if it's two plus an op a one-year option or if it's a straight three-year deal
but he's meant to be there for at least another year possibly two more
would not expect will to necessarily continue after that at least full time
so you know for sure there's a finite window for will
so you know for sure there's a finite window for will
marcus could be the end of the run here could be one more year if they decide to
they're also looking at some others i would assume to replace marcus
well that would suggest they're not in a rush to bring denis back
but also how the things go with will
do they try and continue if everything goes well i'd say yes of course it'd be silly not to but
if things just stay bad or get worse is that a spot they look to fill do they do that with denis
if will would agree to go early or another driver it's an interesting time marcus performing the
way he is has complicated things for sure but in a good way
big thing to leave with here lin is if marcus has a really good close to the year and moves up
and is sitting i don't know what it is seventh eight sixth fifth something in the championship
ah based on merit you'd be an idiot to take the guy out of the car
don't know what they would do from there which is why i think well i the smartest thing to do
is to not be in a rush but if you're truly looking to replace him with one of the free agents that's
out there probably going to need to act sooner than later so there's a little bit of a time crunch
involved here just slow playing it completely i don't know if that is something they can truly do
um let's close on this in the questions from andrew miller darin kings and mike van metric will uh
uh will hold on to this for next week jerry we'll just run this next week since again we got no racing
to uh to worry about this weekend um why don't we talk about this and then we will certainly
say farewell um mohammed qualit says do you hear any rumors about renas v k for next year
um said he showed you everything to be in a top team uh what an underrated driver um
so here's the part that i can answer that sorry y'all my brain's going in a thousand
different directions right now a lot of it nothing to do with this so uh i apologize for some of the
pauses here i'm just going to leave them in because that's what it is um i heard on the
gateway broadcast maybe multiple times so maybe across a practice session and the race and whatever
that there's interest in v k and boy there's big interest in him in the paddock as a free agent
i haven't heard that from the paddock itself have i heard renas's name mentioned by teams as being on
their radar and on their shortlist yes without a doubt which he completely deserves love the kid
what i haven't heard is anything that matched the energy of what was presented on the broadcasts
what i haven't heard is a team owner and i've been talking to a lot of team owners
or my next silly season piece what i haven't heard is any team owners at
at programs that are better than his current team say pole position this guy's p one on my list
i'm going after him more than anyone else i've been waiting and hoping to hear that
but i have not heard that
add a little bit of a qualifier here it's very common for teams to tell a driver or their manager
oh we you're the one we're going after you
that is a relationship management tactic and it's a smart one
it's in dating terms called play in the field
want to keep a couple of boyfriends girlfriends whatever friends in play while you're
trying to decide which direction you want to go try and give them all the impression
that they're the one for you admittedly drivers do the same thing managers do this boy
Roger Penske called out hang up the phone tomorrow i don't i only want to drive for you
whichever other team right acts acts are put on so i have no doubt renus management have been
told you're our pole position for us we want you you're our number one what i haven't heard
in real conversations with team owners ones where they are talking off the record
so not giving pr spin not giving great quotes to be read that give false impressions but real
answers i haven't found the same truthy energy about renus that i've been hoping to hear just for
the kids sake now could that start to change it absolutely could
just say this and then say goodbye for this episode there's no driver
who has performed at a higher level in a non championship caliber team
than renus vk nobody has done what this kid has done this season this is the best performance
who goes hauling or racing has ever had from a driver last year after nine races
this is again just the halfway point we finished nine this year looking back to where we were after
nine last year connor love as well was 20th in the championship not loving the car on rodent
streets in particular said the thing was damn near undriveable stingray said the same thing
but take connor's words first and foremost we know that he was able to do some pretty solid
things on ovals but rodent streets are really where things didn't go wonderfully well we've
seen renus on ovals star as you would expect connor's been able to do that as well in the car
we've seen stronger output from renus on rodent streets teams made some progress year to year
totally get that right so there's there's that team is better than it was last year so not saying
that it's an identical team identical car and status and stature and that's the huge gap is solely
because of renus that's not the case really truly isn't but this team has improved with renus in that
lead car as a motivator the team raves about him just i realized mood doesn't make a car faster in
and of itself and emotion doesn't make it faster but it does add more fuel to the employees right
keeps them up keeps them in a better headspace potentially work harder better less defeated
so that's been a huge thing he's also as the team tells me because i've asked and this is the answer
they've given from a technical standpoint the kids really been a huge contributor they didn't
know that that was going to be a big asset they were receiving to just take all that and realize
that renus freaking vk is wedged between scott dixon and alexander rossi in the championship
know that alexander with the indy gp issue the indy 500 issue
right more issues than he deserves he shouldn't be in 14th
but it is just noteworthy to say that sitting 13th in a hunkos hauling a racing entry
right behind dixon who's right behind gram ray hall right behind right this is not a thing that
i expected or i think anyone expected other than renus and his parents and his wife
so this kid who's doing big things for a team that no one really knows how good they are or aren't
if he can put in a couple more really solid races i think that's the thing that pushes him over the
edge for some of the teams that are shopping to go yeah okay you have you're continuing to do things
for this team it's best ever indy 500 result just finished fourth at gateway um
it feels like he's two races maybe three away from really cementing the fact that he can be looked at
as a leader front running caliber driver so i hope that he's able to do that same time
i wouldn't be mad if he stayed for him for the team
they were able to get that deal done with dryon rheinbold which seems to be taken forever so you
start to wonder if that's gonna happen but that were able to happen connor was able to come back
connor and renus working together would be ridiculous i'd love to see that this team gets
its first win with the two of them working together without a doubt i'd love to see this continue
i'd hate for hunkos hollinger to have to restart understand that renus is on a one-year deal
option for another again don't pretend to know how that option's activated but yeah
can't wait to see what the future holds all right y'all i'm gonna say very well it's 9 13 pm
time to go get some dinner and then i'm on a flight i'm leaving five something in the morning
flying down to la continuing to direct a documentary um so gonna be end up being leaving at 5 30 and
getting home at probably five or 530 but uh it's only a couple hours worth of directing down
in la um but yeah um fun times busy times but appreciate y'all thanks once again to the justice
brothers dryonmotorsports.com our own jerry suddeth the prude for all your great support
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