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AndthisweekI'mattheNECfortheClassicCarandRestorationShow,alongsidetheiconicauctioneer'sClassicCarAuction.
Firstthingsfirst,ImetRichieBarnett,themarketseditorforClassicCarWeekly.
Wehadalookaroundtheauctionatafewofthecarsthatcaughtoureye.
Weputourguessesonwherewethoughtthey'dendupandwhy.
AndIwentbackafterwardstoseewhattheyactuallysoldfor.
Wedidgetsomeofthemrightandwedidgetsomeofthemwrong.
Hi,I'mSamtheoldcarlady.
ThisisRichieBarnett.
He'sthemarketseditorforClassicCarWeeklyandafriendofmine.
We'reattheNECfortheiconicclassiccarauctionstohavealookatafewcarsthathavecaughtoureye.
Discusswhatwethinkthey'regoingtofetch.
Oh,goodluckwiththat,though.
Andthenwe'regoingtocomebackandseehowclosewewent.
IloveaMorrisMineranyway,butthisisareallyspecialcar.
Canwehavealookaroundtheback?
It'saMorrisMineronemillion.
Andtheyonlymadetheseinverysmallnumbers.
Ithink100-ishforonedealer.
Wethinkthere'sarumour.
Oneperdealer.
Probablylightlyaroundabout100,wereckon.
TocommemoratethemillionthMorrisMinerthatrolledofftheproductionline.
Theymadethemallinlilac.
Theymadethemallwithwhiteleather.
Andtheyveryrarelycometomarketbecausemostpeoplethatownthemdon'twanttoparkwiththem.
Now,thesedotaketochangehandsforanywherebetweensortof£15,000and£20,000whentheydocometomarket.
Ithinkthisisaparticularlyniceone.
Reportedtoberunning,driving.
It'sprobablythenicestoneI'veseenforawhile,althoughthereisanotheroneontheMorrisMinerstandthatwe'regoingtogoandhavealookatyet.
IIthink,givencurrentmarket,Ithink12to15-ish.
That'saboutwhy.
Ithinktheproblemwiththemis,Sam,asmuchasanything,howmanypeopleunderstandaMauriceMinermillion?
That'sthething.
Comebacktoit.
Myoldmumlovedthese.
Shelovedthecolourandsherememberedthemwhentheywerenew.
IIthinkalotofpeoplewilllookatitandgo,whatisit?
Whatisit?
Ifyou'regoingtospend12,15,18,20grandonaMauriceMiner,areyougoingtouseitinthesamewayyou'regoingtouseafivetotengrander?
Probablynot.
No.
Thisnormallyendsupinacollection.
Thisisfantastic.
Wheredoyouthinkit'sgoingtoland?
Thisisagoodshowforthiskindofcar.
Welltheyestimateditat.
I'dliketoseeitdraw15to18forme.
15to18.
That'sexactlywhatit'sguidedat,15to18.
That'swhereIthinkit'llbeinthehigherpart.
Ithinkit'llbenearerthelower.
16andahalfto18.
Betyouacupoftea.
You'reon.
Nosugar.
ThelovelyMorrisMillionwasguidedat15to18.
Ithoughtitwoulddoslightlyunderat12to15.
Richiethoughtitwoulddotopend16.5
to18.
Itactuallysoldfor12,600pounds,includingpremium.
SoIwonmybet,andIshouldbecallinginthatcupofteanexttimeIseeyou,Rich.
Soratherpredictively,I'malwaysdrawntothebigV8yantype69Firebird,firstgenerationoftheFirebirds.
Thisonehashadafantasticrestoration.
Ithadhadashuntinabout2014.
Soitisacatcar,butithasgotafullphotographicfileofthedamage,therepairs,theremote.
Let'sfaceit,they'veallhadashunt,soyoumayaswellknowallaboutit.
Exactly.
Umit'shadanabsolutefortunespentonit.
Now,thesejustdon'tfetchthesamemoneyastheCamaros,buttheyareanabsolutelyfabulouscartodrive.
Thisneedsnothingdoingatall.
It'stheV8,thebigone,the400,sothisiskickingoutthehighesthorsepoweryoucouldgetinoneofthestuff.
That'sabout6.4,
isn'tit?
It's6.6.
It'sgonefault.
Goodcolour.
Ontheoriginalwheel,notgonedowntheslotmagroute,hasit?
Thecolourisfantastic.
Ithasn'tgoneforanearly80sChelseaCruiseresaleredwithblackvinylroof.
Nonastyglasssunroof,whichSam,theChelseaCruiseusedtobefullofthemlikethatintheearlytomid-80s.
Sothisisjustanabsolutejoy.
Ontherightwheels,therightcolour,it'sjustfat20to25,itshoulddo25.
Ifthere'sanyjusticeinthisworld,itwilldothat.
IIthinkthishasbeenguidedabsolutelyspoton.
Takethefeesintoaccountaswell.
Thereis12.0%
plusfattogoontop.
Yeah.
Um,butIthinkifyouwantabigGen1V8Firebird,Isaythisisthe6.6
litre,itistheenginetohave.
Ithinkyou'regoingtostruggletofindanotheroneasniceasthis.
AndIwould,eventakingitshistoryintoaccount,Iwouldbeverypleasedwiththiscaratthisminute.
SantaPod,RamboughtYourBrand.
Herewecome.
Sainsbury'sschoolrun,youknow,that'swhatIusethemfor.
Whynot?
Whynot?
The69Firebird,guidedat20to25,whichIthoughtitshoulddo,asdidRichie.
Ithoughtlowerendoftheestimate,Richiethoughthigherend.
Itdidn'tquitegetthere.
Itactuallysoldonthedayfor19,125.
Right,oneofmyfavouritecarsinthesale,77DaimlerSovereign,butit'sthebeautiful4.2
colourlesscoupe.
Yep.
Junipergreen,it'sthebigstraightsixengine.
It'stherightengine.
It'sacolourlesscoupe.
Lookatthatcolourspec.
Butwelovethefactit'saDaimler.
Absolutelyfantastic.
I'msorrytosayittoyou,butwhywouldyoubotherwithacornishfixedhead?
YouknowwhatIthinkofthese?
IthinkinthestraightsixisfarlessworryingthantheV12.
Thecolourisjustfromthatbeautifulearlymid-70sBritishLadencolourpalette.
ButthisIthinkwasonlyonDaimlers.
Idon'tthinkthisgreensandwasavailableontheJagulars.
Whichdoyouknow?
AlthoughpeopleoutthereinthebigwideworldwilltellmeI'mwrong.
Butthisisacolourthatjustsuitsit.
There'splentyofSeries2saroundwithasmallerenginewithfourdoors,buttofindthe4.2
Series2colourlesscoupeisprettyrarething,Ithink.
Iloveit.
Doyouthinkthat'sslightlysinister?
Whatdoyoumean?
Abitmoody.
Yes.
There'sabitofasortofshadynightshady,pseudo-respectablenightclubowneraboutthis.
Butinanurbanbettingshop.
Turfaccountant,theywouldbecallediftheywereathalfsay.
Notbettingshadows.
Ladiesandgentlemen.
Aprivatesomeonewithaprivategamblingsetupwouldhavethiscar.
Loveit'sonitsoriginalreg.
Raisedplates.
20to25inthecurrentmarket.
Doyouseeit'smakingitsmoney?
Ithinkyestimot'sbangon.
We'recallingthisatoughtimeforthewholeworld,really.
Andforthatreason,Ithinkthisonemightstruggletoday.
Ithinkyou'reallnudging.
Itwillhavetonudgepast20.
Ifthere'sanyjusticeinthisworld,thiscarwillgopast.
Iagreewithyou,butIthinkit'sprobablygonna16?
18?
Lateteens.
Mid-lateteens,Iguess.
Yeah,Igotyeah,Iprobablyis.
Ialsounderstandwhereyou'recomingfrom.
Well,we'llsoonfindout.
Wait,wait.
Anyoneneedtofindout?
Right,let'sseewhatelsewe'vegottofind.
TheDametheSovereignguidesat20to25.
Now,Ithoughtthiswouldstrugglewiththatestimate.
Iputmyguessatmidtolateteens.
Richiethoughtitwoulddothe20to25,anditlandedat£1,7437,includingfees.
Thisone'sabitofyou.
£71.
PellmanHunterSuper.
Restomod.
Youdolikeyourhotrodswhenwerestnomods.
Idolikeyourhotrods.
Ithasgotthe,Ibelieveit'sgottheoriginal70roots,1725bulletproofunitstillinit.
Um,butithasbeenroddedslightly.
Slightly,butit'spreservedthewholecharacterofthecar.
There'snomuckingaboutwithit,nobuggeringaroundwithit.
It'sgotadecentsetofhandonmeorsomething.
Itlooksquitelowtome.
It'sabitof.
Now,yousee,yousaythat.
Mymissuswouldsayshe'dlovethis,butshedoesn'tlikeitbeingsolow.
Yeah.
Notspeedbumpfriendly.
Butwhatabrilliantthing.
Whatachangeforaminute.
Whisperit,afastforward.
Thisisjustbrilliant.
IlovethefactIactuallythinkthisissupercool.
ButIthinkthey'resupercooloriginal.
Well,IagreecompletelybecauseIlovetheHumberceptorversionofthis.
Whicharemakingbigmoneynow.
Theyaregettingstrong,strongmoney.
Sothisisalittlebit.
It'sit'sitchimesinwiththeevent,Ithink.
Withtheshowwhat'sgoingonouthere,Ithinkthisisareallygonnabeapopular.
Iagree.
It'sintheit'sit'sintherightplace.
Ilovetheseinoriginalcondition.
IfindthemreallydifficulttovalueinRestoMod4.
Iagreewiththat.
IthinkIthinkeighttotenforareallynice,goodcondition,runninganddriving,readytogo,standardcarisspoton.
Yeah.
Probablynearertheeightthantheten,realistically.
Yes,yeah,fullfitness.
Thereisasaleroomnoticeonthis,it'sgotadickyclutch,soyoucan'tselectgearsatthemoment.
Well,thisisthetimetogotoputanautomaticinit.
Andthisisthegreatthingaboutanauctionthatassoonastheyknowthere'safault,itisdeclared.
Soitisonasaleroomnoticethis.
Assoonastheyfoundoutthat,yeah,sothatthereisanissuewiththeclichesyouneedtoknowabout.
Ithinkthatthatisgonnawobbleacoupleofpeopleonit.
Andforthatreason,Idon'tthinkIthinkit'sgonnastrugglewiththeeighttoten.
Fivetosix?
Doyouknowwhat?
I'dliketoseeitdoingnotfaroff,maybeseven,sixorseven,nearlyeight,butIthinkIthinkten'sten'sabigask.
Wellthingissaying,findanother.
WhenareyouorIseenoneoftheseinauction?
Butyoucanpickthemupasprojectsforagrand.
Well,yeah.
Andhavetobecrushedittogether.
Yeah,andthenandthenyoucanbuilditasyouwant.
Sonormallytheargumentis,butthisisathisisaready-to-go,butthisoneisn'tbecausetheglitchisnotgood.
Sobutit'salsoareflectionofthevendor.
Ifthevendorwassomeonewho'sbuiltitlikethis,it'stheirtaste.
Yeah.
Andso,really,Isupposeifyouwantedtocreatesomethinglikethis,you'dbuyaproduct,wouldn'tyou?
I'drockuptoashowinthis,though.
I'dlovetotakethistoacarmeet.
Thisisjustfantastic.
Iwouldloveonlyonething,it'sashameit'snotanestate.
Ifitwasanestate,Iwouldseenoproblemwithitdoingeighttoten.
Wagons,wagonsarewhereit's.
Waggonsarecool,wagonsarecool.
Goon,Richie,wheredoyouthinkthisisgoingtoland?
Sixtoseven.
Sowe'reinagreementonthisone.
TheHillmanRestomodguidedateighttoten.
Weboththoughtitwouldstruggletohittheguide.
Unsurprisingbecauseitdidhaveasaleroomnotice.
Itactuallygotto4,200ontheday.
Isstillavailable.
Itdidnotsell.
IfI'mabsolutelyhonest,thenIcouldpickonetodriveHolman.
Ortwo.
I'dtaketheSilverShadow.
Yeah.
UhtheFirebird,I'dprobablytrailabout.
Butum,Iwouldlovetopickthisoneup.
So78LanciaBetaMonteCarloSpider.
Bitofararity.
Yeah,soonly27builtin78.
It'srarebecauseit'sright-handdrive.
Now,weallknowthecoupés,butthespidershavegottheserollback,yeah,manual,sortoftargetstylesofttop.
Thishasgottwolitretwinkleonengine.
It'shad13grandspentinthelastfewyears.
Butishedetailed?
Where'sthat30frankblonde?
It'sitallinthefile,everywhereacrosstheboard.
Thishasbeenguidedat20to25.
Again,reallyhardonetoprice.
Cool.
TheonethingIwouldsay,Rich,isthereisnosuchthingasacheapLancia.
Sodonotwithoneofthese.
Donotbuyasub10grandLanciaandexpectitnottohaveproblems.
At20to25grand,thisone,accordingtothedescriptionofthefile,hashadeverythingdone.
Um,ithashadalatesaleroomnoticeofaproblemwiththegearchange.
Sowhetherthat'saminorlinkagethingorsomethingmoresinister,andthat'stheonlyreasonIdon'tthinkthiswillhittheestimate.
Otherwise,Ithinkitwouldgohappilyagain.
Itwon'tgoneartheestimatethen.
Ithoughtpeoplewillbewon't.
Butwhatasyousay,it'swonderfulwhenwhattheauctiontellsusthis.
Yeah.
It'sadeclaration.
Soyoucaneithertryandhaveaquickinvestigationifyoucan.
Yeah.
Itdoesn'tdoanauctionhouseanygoodtonotdeclareaknownfog.
Anycarthatgoesoutwithafogislikelygoingtobeaggroforthem.
Andthatisthelastthinganybodywantspost-sale.
Sotheywillalwaysdeclarecan't.
Andthevendorwillalwaysberealistic,youknow.
Andthevendorwillbegladofitbecauseitmeansthattheydon'tgettheaggroafterasaleaswell.
Sowe'reeverybody'shappy.
Butlookatthis.
Sothisislikeamanualrollbacktargetup.
Andthiswhatmakesthisiswhatmakesitthespider.
Ithinkthisisreallyrare.
UhIwouldlovetoownthis.
IwouldIthinkthetrickwiththisisIwoulddriveitsomuchIwouldprobablykeepitrunning,allright.
Ithinktheydon'tliketobesat.
Ihaveahorriblefeelingthisisgonnastutterinthemid-teensbecauseofthebecauseofthegearboxquestion.
Idon'tthinkpeoplestillunderstandthismobile.
Anybetamonstercolour.
It'sjustwonderful.
ButIdon'tthinkpeoplegetthem.
Andthatistheproblem.
Andit'sjustIknowIhaveaanoddloveofquirkycarsandandtheunderdogsandthemarmitestuff.
ButIthinkthisislovely.
Yeah,alittlebitofpaintcorrectionI'dprobablysortouthereandthere.
Um,butIthinkthisisit'sprobablyattheverytopendofwhatI'dcallusableexample.
Yeah,yeah.
Iloveit.
Onceyougetthegearboxsortedout,right?
OffandgotonorthernFrance.
AndtheLanciaBetaMonteCarlospiderthatItookarealshinetowasguidedat20to25.
Ithoughtthatwastoohigh.
Ithoughtitwasgoingtogetroundaboutthemid-teens,asdidRichie,anditactuallylandedat16,000onaprovisionalanddidnotsell.
Quickhonourablemention.
Uh,85Lambeaujob,becausemydadhadsomanyofthese.
I'vegottocomesayalaterit.
UhP350,3.5
V8.
HadmanyarunoutinonethatIshouldn'thavedone.
Dude.
Iwasyoung.
No,no,Idon't.
Oh,wedrawavialoverthat.
Tellthepolicefortheirinquiries.
No,no,no.
Yeah,I'vegotveryfondmemoriesofthese.
Iabsolutelylovethem.
Yeah.
Guysat65to70shouldrompawayatthat,butwe'llkeepaneyeon.
Ithoughtthegelperwouldabsolutelyrompawayat65to70.
Itgotto54ontheday.
Ithassincesoldforanundisclosedsum,sogivethehazardaguessthatitdidgettothereorthereabouts,theestimate.
YouknowIloveaBMCforRinaClassic.
We'vegot66Woolsey,1660,inprettyfabulouscondition.
It'sjustright.
I'mstrugglingtofaultthisone.
Ireallyam.
Iloveit.
Well,youdon'tseemanyoftheseinauctionanyway,butherewe'vegottwo.
There'sanotheroneatthreecarsaway.
Doyouthinkit'sjustbecausepeoplethatownthemwhenthey'rethisnicejustdon'twanttopartwiththem?
Yeah.
Idon'tthink.
Theyreallydo.
Andofcourse,theyarereallysortofbackboneoftheBritishclassiccarexplosioninthelate70s,early80s.
1600Bseriesengine,thepriceofthesedon'tfluctuatewiththemarket,Idon'tfind.
Whenthemarketflies,theydon'tfly.
Whenthemarketflops,theydon'tflop.
Ithinksteadyawayforthepastfewyears,areally,reallygoodonewillalwaysfetchfivegrand.
Andaperfectlyusableonewillalwaysfetchthreegrand.
Oh,don'tknow,yeah.
Anditdoesn'treallydiffer.
Ithinkthisisdefinitelythetopendofthethreetofivegrandpricebracket.
Andit'sgoingthroughnoreserve.
That'ssowereallycanplaywithourpredictionsonthis.
Theinterestingobservationyoucanmakeaswell,notaboutthese,butthebiggerforrealingsisthereallybigupswimininterestinWestminster'sWormsley6110andtheVandenBlaer3litreand4litre.
Yeah.
Andthatshouldhaveapull-throughontheseposherversions.
Iloveabitofafin.
SoIloveanOxfordaswell.
It'sabitschoolteacher,theOxford.
Oh,Ijustloveit.
Umbitrakish.
Well,thethingabouttheWolseleyaswell,Ialmostcouldseeyourretired,quitedecentlyrankedarmyofficerwithoneofthose.
Bitofding-dong.
Abitof,yes.
Whenthewife'sathomedoingtheSundaylunch.
AndIthinkthisisabitofding-dongthisone.
Thisis,andwhatalateonethisisonaJ.
Yeah.
That'saboutalot.
IthinkyoucouldhavegotjustaboutgotoneonaK.
Ifyou'vegotfivegrandtospendonaclassicandyouwanttodoshowsandmeets,longjourneys,shortjourneys,easytospanner,costyounexttonothingtoinsure.
Well,80quidayeartoinsure,includingforbreakdown,crucialwiththewiththeoldcar,obviously.
Idon'tthinkyoucangofarwrongwiththese.
Ithinkthesehaveturnedacornertothepointwheretheyusedtobeabitfuddy-duddy.
Whenyouseesomebodyabityoungerdrivingroundinthesenow,youthinkthat'scool.
Heneedssomeonefamousandyoungtobuyone.
Andthenthat.
DoyouthinkwecouldgetlikeJKdrivingaroundinawhile?
Well,whynot?
Whynot?
IfanybodyknowsJK,we'dlovetoputhiminawolseyforabitofavideoifhe'supforit.
Iwillevenputanacidjazzstickeronthebackwindow.
Putwhateverhewantsinitifwewouldhaveadriverone.
I'mgonnastickwithmy.
Oh,okay.
Ihopeyou'reright.
Maybesixandahalf.
It'sjustlovely.
Andthethingissaying,allright,whenyougobackandlookatthem,theproblemisthey'relikeMorrisMiners.
We'retoofamiliarwiththem.
Yeah.
Knowthemtoo.
Amateofmineusedtosay,Leadusedtosay,problemwithcarslikethiswasthey'retoofamiliar.
There'snothingwrongwiththem.
Yougotoacar,oh,it'sanotherOxford.
OranOxfordCambridgethroughthecity.
Idon'tthinkthat'sthecaseanymorebecausewe'vegotyounger,we'vegotyoungerpeoplecomingtothemeets,we'vegotlessofthesegoingtothemeets.
Sowhentheypullinthecarparknow,peopleareaskingwhatthisis.
AndIknowthattenyearsagoeverybodyknewwhatitwas,buttheydon'tanymore.
That'sinteresting,becausethat'sgocapital.
Youhavetappedonthedemographicthing,whichisafew.
It'sabigshift.
WhatitneedsaresomeI'vebeentoClactonstickersinthebackwindow,doesn'tit?
Andwhatoneofthoseumstick-onthingsinsteadofaheatedrearwindow.
Doyouremember?
Almostlikethepub.
Theuhstripthings,ifyoucanactuallystickon.
Andmaybeevenadrivinginstructor'swinddeflectoronthedriver'sdoor.
Makeitintowhatweusedtocallagrandadcustom.
Becauseyou'vealreadygotYeah,thefishtail.
ThisdelightfulWoolseywasactuallyenteredwithnoreserve.
IthoughtitwoulddofourandahalftofiveK.
MeandRichiewereprettymuchinagreementwiththisone.
Itdiddoslightlyunderincludingfeesat£4,275.
We'vehadaroundthefiveorsixcarsthatwe'vebothhadoureyeon.
Um,notprobablytheonesthateverybodyelseislookingat,buttheonesthatwewhatwelike.
Welike.
Welike.
Sothanksverymuch,Rich.
Anditwouldn'tbeatriptotherestorationshowwithouthavingachatwithsomebodywhowasrestoringacarliveattheshow.
SoImanagedtochattoFrankfromPegasusClassicsontheJensenOwnersClubstandabouthisveryspecialJensenHealyandtheworkhewascarryingoutliveattheshow.
SoI'mwithFrankfromtheJensenOnisClub.
Yep,hello.
Well,fromPegasusClassics.
Well,yeah,PegasusClassicsfirst,butIamherewiththeJensenOnusClub.
WithyourownJensen?
Yeah,thisismyuh1974JensenHealy.
UhitwasacarImadeoutoftworecs.
Okay.
SoIuhithadafrontendsmash,andtherewasabreaker'syardinWigan,andImadeoneoutofthetwo,longstoryshort.
ButtheuhengineIcouldn'tafford.
Icouldn'taffordaLotusatthetime,andandIdidabitofa.
ButtheLotustwincamenginesonit.
Lotus904engines.
Andummywalletwasn'tbigenough.
ButImanagedtofindthisthreeandahalflitreRoverV8withthegearboxtomatch.
Asyoudo,onasheepfarminBalafor350quid.
SoIwentonmylittlePeugeot206andweswungitintothebootandthenIdroveitbackumwitharearsuspensiononitsonitsknees.
Right.
Onitsasswithitandgotitin.
Whatotherupgradesyouhavetomakeforthistobesafelycompatible?
SotheonlyadaptationsIhadtomake,ofcourse,wasthetheenginemounts,whichIhadtomake.
Clasterwelder.
That'syeah,yeah.
Andthenthepropshaftthathadtobethathadtobemadeforitaswell.
Right.
Butthecoolingsystem,thebrakes,everythingelse?
Soeverythingsuspension-wiseisalloriginaltothecar.
Ididcutallofthefrontradiatoroutandinsertedthismonstrousaluminiumradiator.
Alittlebit,alittlebit,alittlebit.
ButthisisuhalotoftherestorationsthatIdoisoriginal.
It'soriginalityiskeybecausethat'syouknow,especiallyastheygetquiterare.
Butifyou'regonnasaveacarthatwasunsavable,thenitthenthiswastheonlyprojectIletmyselflikeexternallyIwantedittolookoriginal.
Mechanically,IkindofwantedtodoIwantedtogivemyselffreereigntodoindulgence,mechanicalindulgence.
IjustwantedtoexperimentanddodifferentthingsandseewhatworkedandifIcoulddothatornot.
AndI'vehadtwoJunsenHealersandtheybothwentlikestinkanywaywiththelotusdrinkup.
Sothisisgonnabeahandful.
I'vebeenalloverinthis.
I'veI'vehadthisafewyears,soI'vedoneabigroadtriparoundGermanyintheBlackForest.
Inoticedyou'vegottheLeMansClassic.
HaveyoubeendowntoLeMansinit?
I'vebeentoLeMansacoupleoftimesinit.
I'vebeenaroundtheNC500inScotlandandSoit'sanoldfriendthen?
Ohyeah,I'vegotto.
Howlonghaveyouhadit?
Aboutfiveyears.
UhIIIuseditasmydailyatonepoint.
IhadtheuhIhadanAudiA6andthatthehaygasketwentonit,soIwaslike,ah,binnedit,andIthought,well,I'llusethis.
Anduhyeah,Iloveittobits.
Funnilyenough,there'safriendofmine,Adam,who'sjusttherewithabattress,he'sgotanoriginalwithawithalotusinit.
Andweweusuallygoonlongroadtrips,andwewereinterestedtofindoutaaccelerationontheautoban,whichwasquicker.
Ithink.
Butyouyougotamuchheavierdoingit,haven'tyou?
Sofunnilyenough,becausetheblockisaluminiumaswell,itisslightlyheavier,butnotbymuch.
Ithinkthere'sabout20kilogramsinit.
Okay,soitdoesn'taffecthandlingthat.
No,andtheMPGsaswellisverysimilar.
Likehewasgetting32milestothegallon,Iwasgetting30.
Soit'snegligible,really.
Becausethecarweighssolittleuntilpetrol'slike45poundsalitre,andthenitwillmatter.
Yeah,it'sgettingtherenow,butwe'llwe'llwe'llpretendwedidn'tseethatfornow.
Listen,it'sourhobby.
AndIdon'tspenditonthegolfclubmembership,Ispenditonfuel.
SoIchoosetospenditonwhatIchoosetospenditon.
Exactly.
Sowhat'sthegrandplanforthisthen?
Sofar,Idon'tknow.
Sofar,youshouldhavebeenhereatthelastyearattheshow,becausetheengineergearboxcomeout,changedallthebigendbearingsandmainbearings.
Andstuff.
Everything'sdonenow.
Thebackaxle'snew.
Sortedallthebushingsonthefrontsubsensesuspension.
Everything'sdone.
Thesearenewheadsgoingonit.
You'redoingitonliveattheshow?
Yeah.
Doingithereattheshow.
Andlastyearwasthebigthatwasthebigticket.
Wegotalotcoveredattheshow.
AdamhelpedmeanduhandCarl,ourmutualfriend.
SoareyoudrivingitbackonSunday?
Areyouunderpressuretohavethisalldoneorareyoutraileringitaway?
No,notthatIdon'thaveconfidenceinmyownability,butit'llonlytakeoneheadbolttosnapandI'mknackered.
Yeah.
SoIdidtraileritdownhereandIamgonnatraileritback.
Sothere'snotthattimepressure.
Soyou'venotgotyou'venotgotCarlonstandbythen.
Youhaveboughtyourowntrailer.
Afterlastyear,thethreeofuswhodidn'tspeaktoeachotherforaweek,itwasthatintense.
Abitaggie.
Itwasalot.
Itwastoomuchtodo.
Butyeah,we'renotdoingthatthisyear.
Oh,fabulous.
Well,thankyousomuchforthechat.
No,it'sallright,it'slovelytoseeyou.
Itlooksasolidcart.
No,itisgood.
I'llloveit.
I'mabigfanofthem.
Ithinkthesearehugelyunderrated,practical,usable,funasfuck.
Yes,sportscars.
Ireallydo.
Ithinkthey'rebrilliant.
I'mabigfan.
Wearegreat.
Ifyouevergetthechancetoownone,andthey'renotalotofmoneyatthemomenteither.
No,no,they'rereasonablypriced.
Reasonablypriced.
Reasonablypriced.
Cheaptokeepandfuntorun.
Right.
Onthatnote,thankyouverymuch,Frank.
I'llseeyoulater.
ImetupwithAnthonyKersley,andifyouhaven'tlistenedtohisepisodeofthepodcast,Ihighlyrecommendit.
HerunsAutoCouture.
He'srecentlybeenthestarofChannel4'sHandcuffed,andhehasgotawonderfulclassiccarcollection.
NowIwantedtotalktohimaboutoneofhisfavouritemarks,anditmightsurpriseyouwherewewere.
SoI'mattheNECClassicCarandRestorationShowwithAnthonyKersley,recentguestonmypodcastandstarofChannel4'sHandcuffed.
Butwhatnotalotofpeopleknowaboutyou,Anthony,isyourhugeloveforroversandspecificallyEsteeWells.
Yeah,absolutely.
It'sarealpassionofmine.
YouhaveoneofthenicestonesI'veeverseen.
Yeah,I'vegotitwasthenicestoneI'deverseenuntilIsawit.
Yeah,no,JJ'sisafabulouscar.
No,it'sfabulous.
No,I'vegotuhtwoorthreeofthem.
Anditallgoesbackto '75whenIsawmyfirstoneatuhHeadmaster'suhgardenpartyatthepublicschoolwhereIwas,wherelittleboyswereshowingoffwhattheirparentshad,andofcoursewe'reallwaitingtoseewhatparentswouldarrivein.
Oneofmyfriendssaid,Wegotthenewrover,andwewent,Rover.
Wow,Imeanporridge.
Andthisfabulousapparitionappearedthatnobodywithawonderfulnoise.
Imean,really,itknockedtheworldforsix.
Itwasplatinumsilver.
I'mstillfriendswithhim,andIalwayssaid,I'mgonnahaveoneofthoseoneday,andofcourseIhavethreeorfourofthem.
Ilovethem.
Peopleforgetjusthowamazinglywelldesigneditwasatthetime.
IthinkifIhadtomakealistoftenveryunderratedcarsatthemoment,Britishunderratedcars,ththiswouldalwaysbeonit.
Idon'tIthinkpeoplewellpeopleworryabouttherotforastart,withwithgoodreason.
Yeah,yeah.
Butwhenyoufindagoodone,theyreallyarefuntosay.
Yeah,they'renotthey'renotverydifficulttoputright.
Imean,they'reverysimplemotorcars.
Buttheactualconceptofathreethe260sareverynicetoo,butthethreeandahalflitre,manualautomatic,ifit'ssorted,aslongasyourinteriortrim'sgood,theysuffer.
SoumIIthinkthey'rejustwonderful.
AndI'vealwayslovedthetheuhcombinationofthemanualgearboxandthethreeandahalflitreengineagainappeared,becausethiswasthecaritwasactuallyfirstproperlydesignedaround.
ImeanitwasputintotheP5BandtheP6,butthiswholecarwasdesignedaroundit.
AndIIjustIjustthinkthey'rewell,they'reofthetime.
Youknow?
Ithinktheywerewellaheadoftheirtime.
Well,theywere,butImeanitwasSD1,therewasn'tanSD2.
Youknow,itwasSspecialdevelopmentone,BritishLeyland'sbrilliance,andtheywerebrilliant.
Snuffedoutbyterriblebillquality,workers'management,themanagementwasworseasasbadasthebloodyworkforce.
Thewholethingwasadisaster,anditwasadreadfulshamebecausethatthiswasaworldbeater.
Sodoyouthinktheywerejustavictimofcircumstance?
Yeah,butbuttheyweren'talone,youknow.
Thepaintwasabigproblembecauseofcoursetheyspentmillionsonthisplasticpainting.
Soallthefirstroverswereayelloworwhiteorred.
ButlookattheJaguarsofthetime.
Theywerethesame,yellow,white,orred.
Thepaintprocesseswererubbish,butitwasplasticpainting.
Alotofthecarsuhduringthattime,andFordsaretheworst,Ithink,cameoutofthefactorywithshockingpaintwork.
Shocking.
Andyouyoucantelloriginalpaintbecauseit'sawful.
Well,theyallhadrtheyallhadworkerproblems.
Lazyitus.
Well,theydid,buttheywereallgrippedbycommunismbythetradeunions.
Buttheywasn'tjustBritishLeyland,itwasthewholelotofthem.
Peopleforget,butthemanagementofBritishLeylandwereasmuchtofaultwithuhastheworkforce.
Imeantheywereshocking.
Butno,theSD1hasaagreatplaceinmyheartforthat.
AndII'velovedthem,especiallyinShumeric.
Ilovethem.
Whatuhwhataretheyworthinthesortofconditionthatyoursinthisparticular?
Wellthemarket'ssortofgonedownnow,butImeanfortheverybestofthebestofthebest,it's35,000wasrealizedforabeautifulVitessetwinplannernotlongago.
Imean,it'sfiftytoseventythousandtorestoreone.
Wherearewe?
Well,youcouldbuyaRoverSD1for£1,500,000,£2,000,upto£5,000.
Youwillneedtodosomethingtoit.
Iwouldn't.
Ireallywouldn't.
Wellyoushouldbuythemostexpensiveyoucanafford.
£15,000iswhereit'satforsomethingthat'spresentableandlovely.
Butthetopcars,mycars,Iwouldn'tparkforlessthan$35,000andIdon'tcarewhatpeoplesay.
Ithinkyoucan'treplaceitforthat.
Wedon'treallyseethemcomingtomarketinthatconditionbecausemostpeoplethatownonelikeyoursandlikethisone,theydon'twanttoparkthematanyprice.
Sotheygenerallydon'tcometomarketveryoften.
Wellit'sareplacementcost,andit'sjustnotpossible.
Eventhoughthemarket'sdipped.
Um,andKev'sgotafabulousV8Sherethathehappenstolikerunningthemashefindsthem.
Imean,that'sararecar,theV8S,andhelikestodrivearoundthemwithabit,youknow,toIdon'tlikethat.
They'vegottoberightforme.
I'mokaywiththat.
Yeah.
IIdon'tmindtattoousable.
No,well,he'sgotit,andhe'sagreatguy,andhe'saspiritoftheclub.
AndIIadmirehimforit,andIreallylikeit.
I'mjustgonnabetheOCD,Iliketohaveeverythingright.
ButumIlikeIliketousethem,andIthinkthatIespeciallywiththreekidsandadogandandabusylifetobeabletojumpinsomethingandgoandnotworryaboutastonechiportheslightdatekindofworksformeatthispoint.
I'msure.
ButifyoupilotanSDoneonthemotorway,it'llstoptraffic.
IfyoupullintoLondoninonepeople,say,What'sthis?
It'sfabulous.
Imean,peopledon'tknowwhattheyare.
Crucially,itwillalsostopitself.
Theycopereallywellinonetraffic,don'tthey?
Yeah,theydo.
Imean,they'rethey'reausable,verysimplecar,they'renotdifficult.
Ofcourse,you'vegottolookatyourfuses,you'vegottomakesureyourelectricconnectionshaven'tsufferedovertimeforthewindows,especially.
Butthesearesimplethings,they'renotcomplicatedcars.
Ithinkquiteoftentheysufferfromdampifthey'vebeenstoredsomewherethatisn'tdry.
Yeah,well,that'sthat'sverytrue.
Andthat'swheretheelectricalcheckscanbegettingthey.
Therearlightclusters,you'vegottogetthegasketsrightonthosebecausetheycanpourwaterintotheback.
Absolutely.
So,yeah,butImeanthereareissues,butyouknow,weallneedissues.
Imean,youknow.
Imean,theseare56-year-oldcars.
Ileakalittlebitaswellatthislatestage.
You'reabsolutelyright.
No,Imeanit'sit'sapleasure.
Notonlythat,buttheclubitselfisfantastic.
I'mamemberofalotofcartrusts.
Yeah,theSD1ownersarethey'realovelygroupofpeople.
So,whatelsehaveyouseenattheshowthat'scaughtyoureye?
Ihaven'treallygotmyselfstuckintotoomuch,tobehonest.
You'reheretomorrow,aren'tyou?
Yeah.
I'vehittheautojumble.
ButmymainmissiontodaywastofindouthowtopolishthebonnetonthePhantomCoupe,whichsomebodyverycarefullyputaboxon,pulleditoff,andthey'vescratchedit.
RollsRoycedon'tknowwhattodoaboutit.
Whatyearisit?
It's2008.
Iknowwithphantomsitcouldbepre-warwithyou,oritcouldbemodern.
Itcouldbeeither.
You'requiteright.
No,it'sa2008withastainlesssteeltop,andnobodyknowshowtodealwithit.
SotodayI'vebeenaskedtogoandmeettheguyonthePrideofOwnershipstandwiththeDeLorean.
Yes,becausehe'sthehe'stheguy.
ButtheRollsRoycenetworkhavebeenuseless.
RollsRoycethemselveshavebeenabsolutelyuseless,they'renotbothered.
It'sreallyincrediblehowyoucanbeyesterday'snewssoquickly.
Soquickly.
Butit'sthat'sthemainthemodernworld,andit'sashame.
Butthereyougo.
That'swhatI'mheretodotoday.
Corporateworldnow,isn'tit?
Yeah,yeah,absolutely.
Disposablecars.
Haveyoumanagedtohavealookaroundtheauctionatall?
Yes,I'veseenafewcarsattheauction.
IthoughtthepricesareprettygoodonRolls-Royce.
It'shalfadozenspiritstherethatIthinkarereallyverycompetitivelypriced.
Veryusablecarsaswell.
Well,SpiritSZseriesisaseriesI'vealwayschampioned.
Becausethey'reafabulouscar.
Youknowthat.
I'vegotyourlatefather'sspirit,whichIloveinFrance,iscomingbackthisyear.
UmandIlovethatcar.
Ilovethemall.
Ihaveaboutadozenofthem.
Andthey'rewonderfultouseanddrive.
It'sagreatthing,butyoupeoppeoplewhodon'tknowthemthinkaridiculousthingtobedrivingaroundin.
Butwhentheyactuallygetinitandtheyshrink,ofcourse,weknowthat.
UhIlovethem.
Andthepriceisfromten,well,fourtotentofifteenthousand.
Thisisridiculous.
Whatelsecanyougetforthat?
Thatwasmad.
Mad.
Andaslongasthey'vegotgoodservicehistoryandthesimplethingsliketherelays,whicharethrums,they'redone.
Thecaritselfisveryreliable.
Itdoesn'tcostyouthatmuch.
Nowbuyabasketcaseandit'llbankruptyou.
Nosuchthingasacheatrolls.
No,nosuchthingasacheatroll.
Ithinkumaslongasthey'remechanicallysoundandthoseenginesareprettybulletin.
Makesurethesuspension'swhereitshouldbe.
Well,again,that'sthething.
Thebrakes,thebrakesarethewe'vegottomakesurethebrakesareright,becausethatandbigheavycartoanchorit.
Stickitrightintheassforthat,andit'sbadnewsthatsevengrandforaproperbrakejobonthose.
ButIthinkratherthanbuyoneforthree,ifyoudobuyone,that'ssevenoreight,allthatwillberight.
Itwill,yeah.
Iwholeheartedlyrecommendanybodywhohasn'thadonetobuyone.
Yeah.
AndaRoverSDone,ofcourse.
Well,mydadalwayssaidwithcarslikethat,bestwaytosellthemistogetsomeonetodriveit.
Becauseiftheydriveit,they'llwantit.
Absolutelyright.
Absolutelyright.
Right.
Well,thankyousomuch,Ithink.
It'sbeenlovelytoseeyouagain.
We'regoingtobedoingparttwoofyourpodcast.
That'llbeverysoon.
Yeah.
SoifanyoneenjoyedpartonewithAnthony,keepaneyeonwhatwe'redoingbecausewe'regoingtobebackreallysoonwithparttwo.
Andmoreexcitingly,maybealittlelookaroundyourgaragewhileI'mthere.
Ofcourse,no,youIreallywouldloveyoutocomedownandgothroughitallwithme.
It'dbeapleasure.
Andcomeandstayfortheweekend.
Begreat.
Let'sdoit.
Okay,lovely.
Alittlebitofwineonthego,maybe?
Areyouandtwo?
Yeah,Iwouldn'tthinkso.
Alright,thanks,Anthony.
Bye-bye.
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