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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Bring A Trailer Podcast. Alex Porter coming to you from our headquarters in San Francisco, joined once again by Beck, hey, buddy. Hey, Alex, how are you doing, buddy? Always good to have you on the pod. And we've actually, I didn't tell you this. I told you Mike the Dennis, shout out to Mike the Dennis, who was just here with his recent BAT auction win. But what I didn't tell you is our friend Kim Barnes from Michelin also loves
the back episode. Really? So you've got multiple fans, two people. I got two fans. Fantastic. I just had lunch with my buddy Ian. You'll love the name drop because he listens to everything. Love Ian. And he also says he only listens when I'm on it. So that means he's definitely not an Alex fan. So that's, oh, he's a big Alex fan. But we also, similarly, we ended lunch. We ended at the front door of the office. And I go inside. He goes, by the way, I have notes. Of course. Yeah, yeah. As I was telling you, Mike does a great Alex intro.
That's a podcast idea, too. What's that? The competitive Alex impersonation. I have to crawl under a rock. That's like my worst nightmare. So before we dive into some of the topics we've got, I thought we could give folks a preview of what we wanted to chat about. We're going to kind of do a state of the affairs. We haven't done one of these in quite some time. I don't think we've had a lot of guests recently. We've played some games, but we haven't really talked about, you know, what we're watching, what's been an exciting result. I know you've got an interesting topic for us to discuss
to, but I thought we could start up top by diving into 206 Dino results, because we've had two recently, one of which you were involved in, and then one of which just slightly
he did out, but I think both are world records, right? Yes. So not too long ago, just in January, we had a prancing horse. He's a user on the site. He had the Datsun collection a couple years ago. A repeat white glove seller.
Great guy has sort of been partial retirement, and his hobby is finding great cars and bringing them to bring a trailer. And one of them was this for the exact color blue, Azure metallic blue, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful color.
But a 206 Dino, which means knock off wheels, smaller motor, it's kind of the original version of the Dino, right?
Very good pull. Yes, exactly. It's essentially the origin, if you will, of the Dino branding as far as I think the general public who's concerned.
The 246, the much more well-known car. Correct. Do you remember there's only about 500 206s, something like that? A 150 or four wheel lessons built in that year and a half of production.
Yeah. So very few, and it's also just similar to like other cars like 9.11s and Jaguar E types. It's before a lot of small changes that I think people preferred maybe in the 90s and 2000s, that recently people started to prefer not having those changes.
Once the car gets to a certain age, people want the original version of it, even if it's inferior, I think maybe another analog would be the Periscopo.
Oh, sure. Kuntak, right? Another one would be, I think you were just talking with Maurice about this yesterday was 2002's. Right.
He was, he had a square tail, I had a square tail. He and I talked for like half an hour downstairs on a maze, we never hit 2002's at one point.
But that's another one where what you can afford is kind of a dumpier version, if you will.
And then once you get into that world, you start realizing, oh, actually, the one that matters is the OG T.I.
That's correct. Yeah. And so that's what this was. The 206 GT. We had this metallic blue one, a prancing horse had on the site.
Reserve was strong. It was high, but he's got a great sales history. He's got great demeanor in the comments.
So I'd sort of let him.
He's already in Cavalry. No, right? Or what was this?
Yeah. So he had already been accepted to Cavalry. And it was his whole thing like, well, I'll deliver it to you with Florida if you want to.
Like it was a whole thing. He's very experienced in the space, and it sold for a million dollars.
And that was shocking. You and I were in the airport heading to Scottsdale.
Oh, that's right. Then it was not the talk of Scottsdale, but there was talk of it there.
Yeah. It looks like record breaking, you know, two or six that sell it on the site.
And then it cuts to last month, late March, only a week and a half ago.
A gold example sells for $1 million, $1,000, so minimum bid increment over.
Also, 206, Dino, also, 206, pulled by another kind of Mark expert, the folks up at Silver Arrow.
Yep. Tim Quoxister was in Arizona. I believe maybe we were even talking to him about the blue car.
I can't remember. We may have definitely 300 a cell that he was driving.
Which is now live. Oh, we talked about it later. Oh, yeah. Oh, too.
Didn't see if I only came on the site. Yeah. Nice. Right. I don't think that was their intent initially.
No, but we can talk about that a little bit. But yes, but it's pretty shocking to see something get reupped.
Because whenever you see that kind of result, it's actually as of someone who deals with
negotiating reserve prices on a daily basis, it can be rather frustrating when a car hits that
high of a mark because then everyone wants that. No, everyone thinks that's one of two or 16 hours work.
Correct. Now, granted, those cars have been appreciating for quite some time now.
Several shares. I think they probably even have some six, seven hundred K result.
We had that there aren't that many of them. But we've, yeah, we've had some big results.
And you can still get them for under 500 that just haven't been restored.
Because their values were so down, you know, like a lot of these cars for so long.
But crucial differential between these two offerings was silver arrow offered theirs at no reserve.
Oh, interesting. Now, that's going to be a point one percent difference, right?
Maybe without it being no reserve, it wouldn't have even crushed that higher number. That's obviously,
I don't know, maybe the blue cars selling convinced them. I don't know. It would be interesting to ask
them like, what gave them the counties to go ahead and actually do it at no reserve. But
I'm sure that was one of the many factors that caused this car to achieve what it did, which was
pretty shocking. I'm happy to take both of them, put them right right out there next to each other.
A thousand dollar difference. I'll go through cars. But then does that make it twice as hard to
negotiate with the next. Completely. Exactly. I mean, what's nice is both these.
Clearly, it's been affirmed that these are million dollar every single one of them.
Right. Hopefully, you know, I mean, what helps is. They're all really good examples.
Really good colors to read colors. Great, great documentation.
Great sellers. All of it sellers all of that, too. They all both know how to work with
the comments and everything. Totally. What else has been strong? I mean, I have a bunch of
strong results here. But any notable white glove results or anything you've been paying attention
to in particular back? I was out last week, along with you. So I did not catch
Palm Springs beans. Palm Springs. Fantastic time there. We looked out on weatherman.
Oh my god. It was gorgeous. It was high 60s low. We should have Palm
fuse carcola. Sure. But let's not result first. So I missed out on sort of where they
was. We're landing. But you were mentioning the singer before. Yep. Where did that end up going?
Over a mill, which is great for folks who were kind of worried about where things are
market-wise. Kind of an interesting build, solid green color,
fuchs replica wheels are. I mean, I guess no, they're not. You can't call them real fuchs. It's
terrible to say something's a replica on a singer. Yeah, they're fuchs style. There we go.
Replicas to derogatory for a singer, I think. A million, 25. Great result. Beautiful car.
I was really happy to see that. Great green. Really call it four screens. There's a color that's
similar on modern cars. Is it oak green, I think? And maybe I'm not sure if that's a retro color
or not, but it has a similar look to it. But sometimes for my taste, singers are a little over
dead. And so seeing an understated one, I love, I love that. And singer in the news, I believe
today, they're one of the investors in Willow Springs. No kidding. The track finally got sold.
We got sold. No kidding. Singer and. Did they say it was their number? Did they?
They never did. I remember. I don't have that good connections. They are planning on helping
develop it to the plan on it being still very public and publicly accessible. But they're definitely
houses and high-end experiences in club membership. Have you been there before?
I've never been there. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's close to where I grew up.
So I think the first race I ever saw when I was a kid was like a, we know,
Porsche Club, some kind of PCA race that my dad took me out to probably when I was 10 or 11.
I think the reason they were able to film for this instance for right out there is it looks to
save. I mean, like the facilities are. Yes, they're ancient. But to me, that's part of the charm,
right? Because it feels like a, you know, an old track. But it's only like that because
it's so remote. Yeah. And it's cracking up wrong. There's no grandstands. No, no, no, no,
there's nothing. There's not, you're not going to want, no one's going to want to. There are
multiple tracks, right? There's the big track. And then there's the streets, which more people
I've driven on both. The big track is a little scary. Fastest track in the West is the name of it.
Yeah. It brings turns kind of the turn eight and nine. It's only nine turn track. I think I'm
remembering that right. But eight and nine, which lead into the front straight are kind of the
same corner. So eight, you come off the back straight. And even in a slow car like I was in,
you're charging pretty good into eight, which is a decreasing radius right hander.
Sure. That kind of the turns into turn nine, which is onto the front straight. So complex,
hard to get right. And if you effort up, you've lost all your front straight speed. And it's where
I had my worst off. It's, it's interesting. I think there may be some banking in one or two. I
can't, both of them are kind of on the side of a hill, right? That's a part and then they go up
hill. Really is, right? Aren't you climbing? Both of them are like that. Yeah. And they're kind of
right next to each other. And then I believe since I went there, they've, maybe there's a dirt track
back in the day, but they do that drifting school to there. I can't remember the name of it, but there's
like another area where you can, it's like a big kind of skid pad area. I was just on Google Maps
this morning, trying to really figure out like how far is well as far as I've always known it being
like four or five hours away or whatever it might be. And if you look at the satellite pictures,
it's like very clear. Oh, that's where they did the drifting, because it's just a
it's rosamonde, baby. So it's like halfway between Lane Caster and Mojave on the 14.
It's close to L.A., right? Like much closer than the sense for Singer.
Totally. And much closer than the track where I did most of my a track time when I was younger,
which is Button Willow, which is also relatively close to L.A., but you have to go over the
great fine. And it's in the Central Valley west of Bakersfield. I drove past it on the way back from
right there. You would never notice it, but it's right there. You can watch the cars going
around the track. That's right where you go where the five goes under the big power lines.
Right there. Laredo Highway, L.A.R.D.O., anyway, I'm stoked to hear that. It's a great track,
a great property. I hope they keep some of the old school charm though. They say that, you know,
there's going to have to be some modern. Of course it needs that. That's what Singer is, right?
At the same time, Singer clearly understands the marking aspect towards the heritage. And so I would
imagine that they're not going to be an investor on something that they can't also milk that as well.
And part of that is, I think, making it still somewhat available to the public. Like you said,
it's still remote. It's in the desert. Yeah. Any of their notable names involved that you heard?
This was a news release. I was just this morning. It was on a couple of the car blogs,
and it's an investment company that I don't know. But thankfully, it's not like a hedge fund that's
just looking to pump it up. Great place. So that's good. Killer. It's remote enough that if they're
going to develop it into something else, it's just going to be solar farms. It's not going to be homes
or residential. They're right next to it. There is a, oh, he's always fascinated. This has been
15 years or more since I've been on maybe 20. There is a flying community right next to it.
Oh. So it's only about a mile down the road as you drive out from the 14 out towards the track.
There's, you know, like 80s, 90s tracktoms and behind them, there's the big hangers. If you look
on Google Earth, you'll see it. It's right there just about a mile east of the tracks on the same
side of the road as the track. And there's quite a few homes, maybe like 50 or more. And it's been
there for as long as I was going out there. So it's been there for a long time. And then a little bit
north of there, there's another like homebrew flying community that one of my dad's friends
lived at. So there's all kinds of dirt strips out there. In fact, my old Susano 170 was sitting on
a dirt strip out by Mojave. When we talk about some live items, or do you have other results?
Well, we're talking news. Is it too janky to pivot to your to your Leno law stuff since we're
talking? Absolutely. I think we should talk about that. I'm kind of excited to hear what you
have to say. Why don't you lay out the basics? Well, there's something that both Alex and I are
literally personally involved with because we have cars that will be affected by this. As with a lot
of Californians, but there's a state bill 712, which technically it's now been officially renamed
Leno's law after Jay Leno loved that. And he showed up a couple days ago at the Capitol in a 76
Trans Am, which is I think probably the perfect car to demonstrate, you know, this car is amazing
car, important, well known, and never going to pass. Southern California has to carry to it. Yep.
So it's one that we don't want to lose that these cars are either just leaving the state or more
likely they're just not being registered here. And so the state's losing the fees because it
issue is that they can't pass smog, but anything after 75 has to pass smog testing in California.
Both visual and sniff test as well, which are both of those are equally different. These are
carbureted cars, cars my 912V, which is 76. God help me ahead. What were they called?
A thermal reactor. There's a free cap pre-calculation. Yeah. You'll see this on BET auctions, any car
that's in the mid 70s, especially European sports cars that he'd always ends up in the comments
going towards will this pass California smog? And it's because we are staff was talking about how excited
they are this morning. We have to go so deep with sellers of California cars because it's
incumbent on a private party seller to smog the car for the buyer within three months.
Right. So if you've got, I mean, honestly, dude, you know this affects cars all the way up to the 90s.
My NSX, it was hard to get it to pass smog. Yeah, we've lamented about this, but I have to try
to take my 78, 911 into a small shop before and they've literally just said no. Oh, totally.
They just don't want to deal with it. I think a lot of it is that they don't know even what the parts
are. Of course. Yeah. They don't know what an EGR value is like they can't point it out.
Air pumps and all kinds of things. Yeah. So as of right now, we're actually even to backpedal a
little bit more. It used to be a 25 year rolling car. Correct. Because I think emissions was 68
was first year of any kind of emissions control, both in the state level, but also that meant that
pretty much any North American car company was having some sort of emission systems on it.
Many states jumped on this as well like Colorado had it Washington had it as well. A lot of
those things. And for, you know, to be fair to them for real for real problems for real problems in
LA, right? Yeah. I grew up in LA in the 80s and 90s. It was horrible. Yeah. The smog was horrible.
So then in 68, as you got 25 years later, the restrictions on that would come off over and over.
This is also why you see a lot of change over in cars availability in the year of 68. Yep.
Right. So there's no 911s since 68. And some people saw about dated information on BAT cars. We
received that. Somebody's like, oh, it's a 69 and doesn't have the smog equipment. It was like,
no, no, that one's okay. Or there's really what it is is a year later, they figured it out.
Correct. They figured out how to get the car to pass maw without whatever reason. So the 911s
came back. It still was a two liter and 69. But that 25 year ban, I believe it was Schwarzenegger,
who actually enshrined it is no longer stopped rolling. Stop rolling. It was basically at 76,
which was at that point. It was 25 years after 76 basically said, nope, this is just going on
forever now. 76 and later has to, which is obviously a tough moment because we're not really at
electronic fuel injection with carbs. My beloved 308 GTB that I want so badly, one of the main
things holding me back is they've got four carburetors in 1977. The big change was 81
because there was no two sites or requirement. And that's what changed everything. Now,
you made it a closed loop system on the fuel injection or even if it wasn't fuel injected.
That helped so much just because the system now knows what it should be doing. And frankly,
that should have been added a long time before. Of course. But state bill 712 is going to change it
from being 76 and later to be back to a rolling characteristic, but it'll be 35 years,
which would jump that up to 1990. NSX owners still have to worry.
At least for a couple of years. For a couple of years. But that's an exciting part of it though,
right? It would be like 90s cars is that you could sort of know, well, at least I can go in in a year or
two, I can get it, whatever it might be. There was a provision that's been I believe since dropped
that you were going to have to have it insured as a classic car. That way, I guess there's
some sort of incentive for the insurance companies to limit the number of miles you do.
Which they do, right? Which almost all these cars are no one's daily driving a 80s car
pretty much. So these are all collector cars. One of the data points they were trying to argue
in favor of passing this law was that less than 1% of cars registered in California are older
than 1990. However, I think a far better statistic. I don't know how you'd find it would be what
percentage of miles driven in California. It's not fairly dry. Less than 1% totally.
Oh, did I just did that math when I picked up my car recently? I was looking at it because I keep
a spreadsheet of all my service history and all that. And it's been 8,000 miles and eight years.
So 1,000 miles. Yeah, that's not too bad, I guess. So one of our colleagues, Chris, the producer of
this podcast, I don't want to misquote him here, but I believe he told me that in Washington state,
also a very green state. They eliminated missions testing all together because they determined,
to your point, a very limited number of miles.
Actually, different also for Washington state was that I believe all of their inspection sites were
state owned. Oh, interesting. So there was a huge amount of clear cars.
Exactly. All this red tape versus here. It's a weird hybrid of it's technically private companies,
but they have to give like these stars sort of occasion from the state, which is like that's a
weird controlling thing. And if you eliminate it, you detect those people's livelihoods,
you know. So a few of them are doing that type of smog test anymore. They're just doing the
type of the plugin. Right. Even my 05 Porsche is just you just plug it in. So OBD2, I think it
passed one of the first early stages of one of the committees. It's now going to
appropriations committee in the Senate. It will still eventually, I believe, up to go to a full
floor vote, but supposedly it has bipartisan support, which in the state of California,
you can't get anything done unless it's got it. It's got to help that let us out there.
Live for a man. I think you can imagine the plot it's he's going to get from the car community.
If you can get this passed. Well, we've had these moments before. There was a big push a couple
of years ago to move it from 76 to 81. I don't remember that would be the whole. And then he got killed.
Yeah. And we got killed as well. I think having the branding of him who is, I think
probably your old guard of bipartisan celebrity. 100% yes. Well, in any room and make anybody
left, that's a philosophy, which I love. One of his jokes for a long time was, you know, it used
to be a people would tell me like, Oh, I love you. You're so funny. And then it turned into,
oh, my parents love people. It's just so funny. And now it's, oh, it's my grandparents.
I think you're so funny. Good for him. Well, I'm excited about it. I think everyone's excited
about it. I'm completely in favor of cars not making the world worse than they should be. And I
don't think that cars of this vintage are hurting things too badly. So let's hope this passes.
Is there a timeframe on it? No, I mean, it's like any of these state bills. I think we're lucky if
it gets settled within the next year probably. Well, you and I will jump for joy with our old
Porsches. Amazing. Okay. Now we can pivot. Thank you for doing that. Thank you for reporting on
that. That's important. Cutting edge journalism from back. I'd seen a picture of Leno at the
state capitol. So I was excited to talk about that. But we should dive back into site results because
I kind of cut us off there. There's a lot of other ones that I wanted to mention. Any other
notable white glove or things that you had your eye on that you wanted to bring up? I mean,
it's not a car, but it's something that I feel like I have to bring up because Howard was so
excited about it. The dairy queen sign. Totally. The dairy queen sign offered by McKenna,
which is a BMW dealership down in Los Angeles. The McKenna collection by the McKenna family
has a bunch of cars. We've listed them through white glove before. And they're doing some redesign
of their collection facility. And so previously was their original Volkswagen sign that was enormous
to its all individual letters. And then we just had this dairy queen porcelain neon sign.
Yeah, it's got the double because the sign people like porcelain or neon, but this is both.
This is both. It's all one piece. It's got the big ice cream coming and it's huge. We'll link it
to it. I think it's 20 feet wide or so. I love this kind of stuff. I don't know how to get the
free sign. Any of these things, right? For this era, do you ever eat a dairy queen? No,
I don't think I have. Do you ever eat a fosters freeze? No. How about an A and W? Yes. Okay.
Oh, you've been in Mourin. Oh, yeah, I remember that right, but actually it's still there. It was
right across from the big, Frank Lloyd Wright County building, wasn't it? Yes, that's right.
Yeah. Okay. I love all of them. And this one's got the big ice cream code on it. It's wonderful.
There was a dairy queen franchise owner in the comments. Oh, no,
it's not related to the sign itself. Not only in he was like bidding on it. He was like,
I want this for my headquarters works. Right? That's the best result for I think one of these
things. I love it when that kind of stuff happens. Yeah. Sold for 21 grand, which is amazing.
Another one that I thought to bring up is, did you see the Toyota Eagle all American racing car?
Yeah, it did. Yes. That car is so cool. Anything associated with Dan Gurney is like
thumbs up by me. I was in here with Maurice two days ago talking about Dan Gurney. We can't
help talking about it. And then I just read the new road track, too. And they also had a whole
thing about the Gurney flap, the little lip on the back of spoilers. We all love Dan Gurney.
This car is a 1990 IMSA GTP prototype car. Super cool. 1.4 mil on the result. Pretty wild,
although a sick car. Very sick car. Great history, great manufacturer
history as well with Gurney and Shelby. Just sort of the heritage of that is a pretty tough
to beat. Plus a cannibal restoration. This is again, I guess, maybe I just see these results
and I get some anxiety because I've had GTP cars. Yeah. It's made it before and it's your classic
issue of, you know, one can be worth 1.4 million and one can be worth 0.4 million. But to your
point, this has all the connections, right? And phenomenal delivery. I bet you and I've seen it
because Canipa brings out, you know, various Toyota racers from that era, right? We've seen a lot
of these at the start. There's that real crazy Celica, too. That's all wide body and everything.
It's from this same era. And I think it was also built by all American racers. But this car in
particular, real low slug, that rear three quarters image where it's just flat on the ground.
I mean, we'll put a lake to this one, but such a cool car. It's a phenomenal
era of these race cars that in theory, they should be appreciated more and more as similar
to the street cars have. The only thing I think going against them is they have like nothing
to do with street cars at this totally. I mean, it is a turbo four. And I've seen either this
car or cars similar to it racer. And they have great, you know, blow off valve noises. They sound
cool, go around the track, but step quite the same as like a big, you know, cause worth V8, but
they do sound awesome and they fly. So there, I guess, there's a little bit of adjacent technology
there in that, you know, in 1990 turbocharged four cylinders were not super common, but they,
of course, have become super common in cars. But other than that, it's hard to draw a straight
line to street cars. Wasn't that sort of the GTP algorithm was meant to take some base core
part of a street car, but then allow essentially prototype everything else around it. Correct.
That's like the Ford probe. Yeah. GTP was developed. They have nothing to do with the street car
other than say like the block. But you could still, at least in my opinion, you could still,
it's harder for me to connect a modern Formula One car to any piece of technology that's in a street
car. But back then, you could still say like we're making turbo, but you know, you're still doing
something to push automotive technology forward. It could in theory help a street car down the road.
I mean, the fact that essentially everything is turbocharged now, it must have been helpful
that racing teams were developing and making turbos better for decades before they became a
common street thing. The only thing I'll disagree on modern Formula One is I would say the caveat is
yet. Right. Like it's technology. It's in it right now. Very true. It's going to percolate.
Some elements of it will, if we still have street ice engines and some fast, which I think we
still will, there will be some sort of DRS on your. Well, there is one, right? Isn't there
a new GT3 RS? Yeah. Oh, the 992 GT3 RS has a DRS system. Well,
hopefully we're all daily driving GT3 RS. It would be super relevant. And the GTS has the electric
motor on the turbocharger. Is that out? Can you buy that now? I don't talk about that. I don't
make a spoiler yet. Okay. So that was a cool one. We had a wild result on a fixed headlight NSX
with a supercharger of 370 grand. I saw that. That was it. What do you feel about the supercharged
NSX? I've never driven one. So my car, I think, was fine on horsepower. It wasn't lightning
fast, but it was plenty of power for me. But a lot of people say a supercharger on them is fantastic
because the engine maintains a lot of its characteristics, but you can have 400 horsepower, right?
I think a lot of people would say it's better than a turbo, right? Which would change the
characteristics of the engine. 370. I told you, dude. 370 grand. Now,
what do you think that's what I need to look at the details? One of the other things, and I think
this was true. Verly me out as to some of those, I think it was CompTex were carb legal. So that's
another thing that was very desirable. We're talking about smog testing. You could have a,
and I think for me out as it was Jackson Racing, they were approved by the California
Resources Board. So you could actually pass smog with the supercharging. I don't know if this one
has a CompTex. So 9,000 miles is low on an NSX. I understand. It's a fixed headlight.
Wait, are those, are those, oh, it is a CompTex. See, it's a CompTex. So that's probably why.
That must be it, but still at 9,000 miles, wouldn't you think that this car without a supercharger
does better than this? Is that modified? This is why I brought it up. It's fascinating, right?
It's also, it's a really clean one. It was very, very clean. Yeah. Is that like engine
bracing and the engine bay? Zach did that to his as well. He said the Targa's really benefit
from having that extra bracing. As you know, there really ones that are fixed, and then later
they're all Targas or pretty much all Targas. Not this and already and not the type R. Anyway,
some of us Targas is the only way we fit in the car. So that's very true. Chris and I were talking
about 77 Targas today. And he was like, are those lame? And I'm like, yeah, man, they're good.
They're good. Polish Targa bar is key. Polish Targa bar is very key. That's standard in 77, 78,
and then it switches over to all black. And that's when he goes downhill. I agree. Even though I've
softened on all Targas. I used to be so anti-target, but not anymore. Should we do a little watch
list comparison? Let's do it. I was thinking of even like, you making me give you your computer
and I'd give you mine, but we could just run through them. How many do you have live right now
on your watch list? I have five. I have, oh, five, well, I have 16. Oh my God.
You're more of a follower than me. I was stunned when Randy said he only had 15 watch. I guess
I just have like, I have a lot of things where I'm also just curious, not so much about the car
individually, but about what its result will be. And so I'm just for information, for reserve
negotiations. So I watch a lot of things that are not necessarily totally proud of, but it's just
a thing. Oh, because you're thinking about those kinds of cars when they come into Waikla.
I want to date a point in my head. Yeah, totally. That's smart. And I bet the curators do the same thing.
For me, it's just pure passion. You're not going to be surprised at all. I'm narrowed it down to four
that I'm like, these are the ones that I'm excited about. Hey, well, why don't you start?
Cool. So to keep on the Carol Shelby theme from before, the race car replica is GT40 Mark.
I'm so good. I've been on that listing many times. So it's not on my watch list. It's got a really
good livery on it. It's got a great livery. It's like plain white with like a red nose or red and
black stripes. Yeah, I think it does a great job of balancing. It really looks like the real thing.
Yeah, like the real race car, but it looks like it's more drivable full,
illuminantly great, beautiful photos of the fabrication of the chassis. So metal body.
Yeah, metal body with a aluminum tub frame right hand driver left hand drive. This one is left
hand drive. So that's how I always judge a GT40 how hard they are. Do they go right hand drive?
And if they do, do they still go still shifter? I wasn't saying exactly. Do they switch over
the shifter all the time? Yeah. As opposed to it would have been a still shifter. That's a good
nut. That's a nut bag thing. And that's how I want my GT40. A right hand drive with still shifter.
Right hand side of it with still shifter. Yeah, for sure. That car looks so good. It looks so
good. It's actually very enjoyable to look at these cars and really start to appreciate how good a
job they did on the GT, the Ford GT from 0406 and how accurate it was, but it was still its own
thing. You kind of have to look closely sometimes to be like, well, what do I have to look at here?
The first gen for GT is it's just one of the best. I was just one of the best at our LA event,
which went fantastically. Thanks to anyone who's listening who came out two weekends ago,
a father son combo came up in first and second gen for GT both yellow black stripes. We park
that right up front at Wobb's facility. He's so sick. That's amazing. Great.
Yeah, that's my first one. I think this thing is phenomenal. I think it would be quite an incredible
car to take on a rally. I don't know if you'd ever want to do it like that, but
No, it's going to be great for it. Yeah. Another gurney connection there because gurney
won in the Mark IV, which we had a real Mark IV, though, rebodied reselling. And then of course,
famously the gurney bubble because he was your height. I think he's six, three, six, two,
something like that. And I'd have a little bump on my helmet to fit in there. I think about that
in most cars that I get into is what would it take to get my own? You need a gurney bubble on
your targer roof. No, that fixes. You just take 35. Yeah, totally. Of course. Hit me with a
couple more because mine are going to be so you're going to be like, of course, Alex. Okay. I mean,
it's always good when it starts with a car color in the title. Oh, yes. When we put the color in
the headline, yeah, zinc yellow 1996 Ford Escort RS Cosworth. Also not on my watch list, but every
time that car comes across the top of the website, it's so good. It's so freaking good. I love the
bike lane spoiler. The only thing that would, I mean, it's tough to say Sierra over later Cosworth.
I'm going to sure this one is probably faster and better in probably every single way. But these
look like your classic little boy race or the totally and just look like you're going to get in trouble.
What do you think I like Mustang SVOs so much? It's a lot of those same elements, you know, and
that same kind of air. It looks like a backwards-based wall cap just asking to get trouble. Have you
liked those before? Is it the color on this one that drew you? Oh, no, I've been. I've been into
fast-fords for quite some time. A Sierra Cosworth is definitely on my list of some day, but seeing that
this was on the site, I got still very excited about it. It's got the right wheels on it. What about
Mercur? XR40i's. I don't think I can do it. It's too downmarket. It's too downmarket, but these
look fantastic. I'm not the type of person who gets excited about the name of colors, but I love
zinc yellow. I love it. It's a mechanical thing that we've all dealt with. If you've ever replayed
bolts or whatever, like you know what this is, you know what they're referencing. And then you look
at the car and you're like, yep, that's a really good photography for that car. Very, very good.
This is a patina group. I don't know well. Oh, they're great. Patrick is a wonderful
shout out to Patrick if he's listening. I don't think I'm blown up their spot. They are either
about to become or did just become local partners. Oh, nice. He's been around. He's been selling for
a long time and they do such a nice job on their presentations. And like all of our local partners,
a person who's just really aligned with our values, doing things right, not screwing people over,
being truthful about the car, all that kind of stuff. If you like turbo noises, you've got to get
to the patina groups or driving video for this listing. Oh, I haven't watched that. It is the
full just every single time. It's just wonderful. Yeah. Again, then now we're two for two on
cool 80s turbocharged cars. All right, we'll go down mine really quick because you're going to be
like, of course. So here they are in order. Supercharged 1937 Quart H12 fan. Of course, we've had
quite a few. We've had two really good results. That's in court fans. We've had three yellow ones
in a row, although I think the other two were not supercharged. The supercharged fan is the
four seat convertible. What we sold very few over listed very few of maybe none is the sportsman,
which is the two seat convertible cord, which is the most desirable. But I, of course, love the
sedans because that's the original design. I think the prettiest. But I watch all the chords
of we've been crushing with them. Anthony Sarah has a Euro 78 308 GTV. So you're not going to be
friends right now. No, it's red. But yeah, the Euro cars have the dry something motor that everyone
likes. It's only a little more power. But everyone says it's a much better driving experience.
Sure. Gotta get one of those cars. The silver arrow,
rudge wheel, gray red, going that we saw in Arizona. Beautiful car. I hope I'm not blowing up Tim
spot. He was driving it everywhere and leaving it open for people to take over. So I don't think
this is going to bother him. There was a young kid a teenager who was like poking into it. You know,
Tim left the doors open at our Arizona vet. And he was talking to his buddy. And I just kind of
slid in there and sat on the thing. And I showed him how the steering wheel folds up for you to get
in. And he was like, oh, it's cool. So I touched that car a little bit when it was there. It's got
the luggage in it. It's gray, gray rudge is red. It's about as good as a goal and gets, I think.
When Randy's 300SL was here in the office years, years ago, very briefly, because it came out of
the shop. And then they were listening on the site. We're a big push. We all sort of tough turns. We
did a little lunch and learn. Yeah, that's right. 300SLs. And then we sort of took turns getting
in there. I could see it. And did you actually climb it? Climbing. We were able to get in. I was not
able to fully get in comfortably at all. And as Randy opened the door for me, as I get out, he says,
I think you're a roadster, man. That's right. Honestly, I drove that car a little bit. I could
barely fit in it myself. Really? Because I have a long torso. Even though I'm not nearly as tall
as you. Sort of Italian cars work well for you then. I drive inherently in the Italian driving
position. Knees bent, arms straight, leaning back. That's like how I most comfortably fit in a car.
That's how I drove the NSX. That's how I drive the Porsche. Which is weird. Most people don't like that.
But that is how I drive. Very quickly to round things out. Another one you won't be surprised for
is a beautiful 65 S600 Honda roadster. Another car. I've got to get one of those at some point.
Beautiful presentation. Really nice one. The guy's done it for 37 years. So really cool red.
That's 600. Is that still a chain drive? That's still the chain drive swing axles. Mike Malinwood's
museum, one more shout out to our LA event. Huge thanks to Mike who did such an amazing job.
Dude, I wish you'd been there. So crowded. It's definitely our biggest event ever. But
he's got, as I think you know, a bunch of cool historic, you know, Japanese cars.
Original Sylvia Toyota 2000 GT. My favorite sports 800 Toyota. But he had a both a roadster and a coupe.
Kimmer of the roadster was 600 or 800. The coupe was an 800. And I climbed underneath because Randy
didn't believe me that those had the last ones had a solid rear end, which is actually what I
would like because it reduces the complication. But it's hard to deny if you've got the money in
time that the chain drives swing axles is such cool technology. This one has them.
That's such a wild thing that that was even considered for a while. 9000 RPM too.
You know, in the six. Open chain, right? Like it's not. No, no, they're enclosed. They're like,
they look like two little suitcases. So it looks like a solid rear end. It's right up behind the
driver and passenger and then coming off the end of it are these two little swing arms.
That one clothes chain and I'm just really cool. I mean, there's nothing else like it as far as
I know for sure. And then lastly, this is maybe the only wild car, although it won't surprise you.
This is from Tom Poppinopolis racer 355. We have a very beautiful 52 allered J2X with a
firepower, heavy in it. Wow. I know. I love allards. That's not his typical car, is it? He
sells a lot of stuff like that memory at the Clark Gable XK 120. You know, he sells, he sells 50s cars.
I'm not sure he's ever had an hour before, but I love allards. I probably need you look at one
in the pits at Monterey and talked about like 44 for an axle cut and half for the in a pet. Yeah,
the little August done tough worked on him. We had, remember, that really beautiful green one that
had a flat head with arden heads on it with those or August done tough overheads house conversion on
it. That was a couple months ago. Anyway, those are my five that I'm watching. No surprises there for
you. I'm sure. Those are all great. Anything else you want to mention? Other watched cars,
the last one, all sort of plug because I just love these and this will be no surprise as well,
is we have a possibly one of the best, if not the best we've ever had, 74 2002 turbos.
Oh, I saw it go. Passaging, click on it. It had very nice photos. It's kind of a low angle with
the chin spoiler front. Yeah, very nice photos. Super clean. It's been restored, came from Europe.
This is basically about as good as it gets, I think, but it is a phenomenal example. It's got the
very crucially important reverse text turbo 2002 on the chin spoiler that is a must so that when
you are being essentially advanced upon from the rear, you are then seen in your rear room,
your turbo 2002. The story I had heard is that eventually the German government forced them to
stop doing that because I thought it was like too aggressive for the road or something like that.
This was like perfect to do the thing on the plastic. Oh, man, silver. You silver are white on these.
Holly enough, I'd actually think I'd go white. Yeah, okay, I would too. Shout out to your
colleague, Sam, who's got a beautiful white one. He does. Man, this one's like almost too nice to
drive. I know, it's the only thing. Holy crap. Is it a five or four? They came in both way,
five in four speed, right? This one's a four speed. Five speed was optional as was a limited slip
diff on these cars, and also on all of the 2002's and TII's and all of that. Original five speeds are
very rare, right? I think it's actually for turbos, it's probably for more common that people
clicked that box. I thought I'd heard it. I don't want to swear to this because I can't
remember if it's true or not, but that the five speed was maybe not, you know, not quite up to the
task. The four speed is a dead, reliable box that was in the back of it. It is a dog leg,
which is the advantage of the original five speed. If you do an E21 five speed drop in your
obviously getting the conventional age pattern, right? But with a dog leg on a turbo where you want to
keep it, you know, in the revs all the time, I feel like that would make a lot more sense.
As far as weaknesses are concerned, it's possible that maybe they're not necessarily as robust,
similar to the E1 argument, why the 930's had four speed so long. Correct. Yeah.
But for this one, I don't know, man, I wouldn't need it. This is fantastic. No, no, no.
You almost wanted to just look at this car. Really, really good one back. I'm glad you brought
that one up. Before we part ways, I thought maybe we could spend a little bit of time talking about
Palm Springs car culture because you and I were both down there. We had our families down there for
spring break. And it's beautiful weather, like you said. It was fantastic. And I saw so many
rad cars. Did you catch a lot of interesting things out on the street? So we lucked out at not
only was it Palm Springs car culture. It was Palm Springs car culture in the right time of year,
where it was not too hot. It was like 72 degrees every day. It was easy. And the common thing
I saw was how beloved the R107 is. Oh, my God, I saw so many. And I also saw, are they still
what was the coupe? I saw quite a few of the coups to the SLC SLC. That's a C107 maybe. I think
it's probably that is. Yes, so many of them. And it appeared to be a collection of people who
had them forever. But also clearly younger people who bought them recently as like a collector car.
I mean, that's obviously one thing you do whenever you see a car like that is you have to be like,
well, who's driving this? I want to see this. And this is the case for I had this actually with
2002 is when I used the own one was some of the best ones I ever saw looked like they were
with their original owner. That's one of my favorite things. You almost never see that. And
you more somebody in like a 70s car where they've clearly been deeply driving you're for. And
they're also clearly not hustling it because to them, it's not that's like they're an enthusiast
obviously because they've maintained this kept it around. But they're not doing it as no mage or
as a not even a joke, but like appreciating the history of doing it because this is their car
and they like everything about it. R107s were just everywhere. And I figure it's got to have
the right balance of modern amenities really actually working AC. Yep. But then also it looks
classic. It looks historical. You know, it's not W1-13-ish, but I saw a couple pagotas. Do you see any?
I saw a couple don't think I saw one as well. But I feel like you could though at least see an R107
in that context and feel like, oh, they're in that same way. It's not my favorite car in the world.
And that's the perfect place for it. Sure. Right? Because you can put the top down and boys,
it nice to have the top down on a warm evening. But like the hood that you need to drive kids
around while you're in your glass of car in Palm Springs is low. If you just need to shuttle around.
An automatic is nice there too. Sure. And everything is 15 minutes away at most. Yes.
All the roads are straight. All the roads are straight. All the roads are 45 miles an hour everywhere.
Which I definitely utilized. Man, I love it down there. I saw not a ton of 129s. I saw a lot of R2-30s.
It's just like an SL country down there. It is absolutely SL country. I also like you, I like classic
911s, but I saw a lot of like modern, you know, people get the specked out target. Nice there.
Nice one target for us was every one. And I was also like, yes. Like my whole view shifted when
I was down there on what kind of car I would want, right? Because again, everything's straight.
It's relaxing. It's warm. You want something that you can at least have a panoramic sunroof on.
I've not totally put the top down. You want the ability to drive to dinner with the top up because
the AC's on and then when you leave dinner, the top is down. Dude, that's exactly right. That's
exactly right. That's what they are. What are seven after a couple cocktails. Put the top down,
enjoy that war. Oh man, I love it down there. Obviously. Yeah. How did the kids feel afterwards? My
kids love it. Oh, they genuinely loved it. Yeah. Wheels asking like, is this our house now?
Tills is totally. Oh, totally. And so it calls it Palm Strings. And he's still talking about Palm
Strings. Are we not going back to Palm Strings? Totally. It's the same kind of thing. Why don't we live here?
Right. Right. Our kids played together in the pool. Yeah. That was fantastic. The issue that made
it work well was that it was unseasonably cool. Yeah. I mean, I just checked on my phone today,
but I was like, what's it like in Palm Strings today? And it was hit in 90s. It was like plus 15.
Although for me, I'd like, I love a hundred degree day there. My wife's less, but I'm fine with it.
One other thing that I was going to mention with the other car that always comes to mind when I'm
down there is the big 60s, 70s American land yachts. And I saw quite a few of those around.
And particularly Caddy's big Cadillac convertibles or even big Cadillac coups from the 70s
just makes so much sense out there and looks so fantastic. And I think I would probably have to
get one if I lived out there all the time. That's the land of also just the continental.
Oh, 100 percent. Oh, 100 percent. Suicide door continental. Yes.
To be able to take you and you're double dating going out to record. Triple dating, probably.
Absolutely. It would be the car for that area. Yeah, man, I love it out there.
Well, it was really fun hanging with you and your family. Absolutely. Phenomenal time saw you two days
after I had cannonballed back up with the kids and we were longing for Palm Springs.
Well, thanks for doing this back. Any other topics you want to cover before we end?
Give a shout out to Florida event. Oh, yes. Great. T's a couple.
Should have done this up top. That one's coming up. Where is it happening?
Jupiter, Florida. That's happening with our partner, KTU Motorsports April 19th.
That's coming up Saturday. Yeah, it'll just be when this comes out, it'll just be a couple
days from when this podcast happens. So got that. We've got quail motorcycle gathering happening
again in May. It won't rain. Buddy, cross your fingers. Tyler Greenblatt, our colleague is not
even a laugh at that. So that is in May. So we got that coming up. We sponsored that the last
few years and his Beck insinuated there at rain the last few times. People still had a ball.
They've actually changed the timing on it a little bit to try to avoid that this year.
And then June, we're doing Portland at 9-11-R's facility, our local partner and power seller
on site 9-11-R. Have we ever been in Oregon before?
We did do one a couple of years ago, but we've done one or even two events at 9-11-R's
facility down near Arizona where you and I just were, which is so lovely. But this is the original
off-on-guard facility in Portland. And so that should be awesome. That's in June. And then the biggie
is going to be in July at Road America. We're going to have a ton of staffers out there. That's
going to be a really actual alumni gathering. Yeah, so we've really switched to this kind of
meet-up format where it's a little bit lighter on the ground. LA was interesting because I mean,
there might have been a thousand cars there. And we had nobody parking or anything. It was like
figured out on your own. And there were definitely some grumblings and guess what, everyone figured
it out just fine. And it was an amazing car show. But yeah, been a little bit lighter on the ground. And
we're really trying to emphasize working with our local partners because you know, it's kind of a
double win. We need to go hang out with somebody that we're partnering with who we really like.
And they often, as you know, very well, have rad facilities themselves. I think also important
is that a lot of our staffers will have to parachute in for this event. And then when it's over,
we leave. And if local people have come to that show and they want to make a connection with like,
now, I want to see a car. Here's a local place you can go to with Salt Lake. We've just
just a few. I wish you were there. So you robbed eats, mob cars, his shop is unbelievable. 910. He had 910
there. F 40. A bunch of amazing stuff, including that. Bring a trailer podcast.
AC mono that just sold today for 200 and something large number. 230. Yeah, something like that.
Anyway, I'm glad you brought that up that because we wanted to shout out all of those things. So
anyways, thanks for doing this so much as always. And thanks to all of you for listening. If you
made it this far, please don't ever hesitate to reach out with questions, concerns, feedback that
can go to podcast at bringitrailer.com. Thanks for listening. We'll catch you next time. Bye everyone.
About this episode
Recent auction results and automotive news take center stage as hosts Alex and Beck discuss record-breaking sales of classic cars, including two Ferrari 206 Dinos that sold for over a million dollars each. The episode also covers the implications of California's proposed Leno Law, which could ease emissions regulations for older cars, and highlights the vibrant car culture in Palm Springs. Listeners will enjoy insights on various auction results, including a supercharged NSX and a unique Toyota racing car, along with anecdotes from their recent experiences.
Alex and Beck review some recent highlights on BaT including a pair of record-breaking 206 Dinos, an understated Singer, a fascinating NSX result, and more. They discuss big news for Big Willow, Leno's Law, vintage SoCal fast food chains, percolating race car tech, the design legacy of the GT40, the backwards baseball cap in automotive form, and the ideal color for a 2002 Turbo before wrapping up by waxing poetic about Palm Springs car culture.
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