The head gasket is like a tough seal inside the engine. It sits between the engine block and the top part (the cylinder head) so fluids don’t mix with the engine’s combustion. If it breaks, the engine can overheat or start running badly.
Brake pipes are the metal tubes that move brake fluid to your brakes. If they leak or corrode, your brakes may feel weak or go soft. In the worst case, you could lose braking.
Brake shoes are part of drum brakes. When you press the brake pedal, the shoes press against a drum to slow the car down. They wear out, so they may need new friction material.
Asbestos lining is old brake material that used to be used because it could handle heat. The danger is that when it’s ground or disturbed, tiny fibers can get into the air. That’s why working with it requires strict safety controls.
An angle grinder is a power tool with a spinning disc that grinds or cuts material. In the story, it’s used to grind brake lining. If that lining contains dangerous dust (like asbestos), it can be very unsafe without proper protection.
When brakes squeak, it usually means something isn’t right between the brake pads and the rotor. Sometimes it’s just worn pads, but sometimes it’s dirt or a surface problem that needs cleaning or replacement.
You generally don’t want oil on the part of the brakes that actually slows the car. Oil can get onto the pads and make them less grippy, which can make braking worse.
The calipers are the clamp that squeezes the brake pads against the spinning disc. Some parts inside the caliper can need grease, but the braking surfaces themselves should stay clean.
“Rebuilding the engine” usually means disassembling it and replacing worn components (like bearings, rings, gaskets, and sometimes pistons or cylinder work). It’s a process where small mistakes—like contamination, wrong clearances, or improper parts/coatings—can cause major reliability problems.
Pistons are the parts inside the engine that move to compress the air-fuel mixture and push power through the crankshaft. Painting them can be dangerous because the engine gets extremely hot and the coating can interfere with how the piston works.
Compressed air is air stored under pressure and released as a strong jet. It’s commonly used to blow dust out of small gaps, but you have to be careful not to dislodge delicate parts.
An airline is just a hose that carries compressed air from the compressor to where you’re using it. In this context, it’s the tool setup for blasting dust out.
The Peugeot RCZ is a sporty-looking Peugeot coupe. The listener’s point is that its shape makes it seem like it should be a mid-engine two-seater, but it isn’t, and that mismatch bothers them.
“Mid-engined” means the engine is placed closer to the middle of the car instead of the front. People often expect mid-engine cars to handle more like a true sports car, so the listener is reacting to the styling implying that setup.
Concept
NEC Motor Show in 1988
The NEC Motor Show refers to an auto show held at the NEC (National Exhibition Centre) in the UK. Mentioning the year (1988) helps frame the context as a period when classic small cars like the Citroën 2CV were still widely seen and discussed. For listeners, it’s a reminder that these anecdotes come from in-person exposure rather than long-term ownership.
They’re talking about the window on the driver’s side. In the story, it didn’t behave normally—it moved for a moment and then dropped quickly, hurting their fingers. It’s used to explain why they dislike the car.
Concept
TT
“TT” is shorthand for the Audi TT, a well-known sporty coupe that often serves as a reference point in the same market segment. The speaker suggests the RCZ will always live in the shadow of the TT, implying the TT has stronger mainstream recognition or reputation.
They’re saying the shifting between gears didn’t feel crisp. Even if the car is fun otherwise, a rough or vague gear change can be annoying every time you drive.
They borrowed a car with squeaky brakes, meaning it made an annoying squeal when stopping. It can happen for a few reasons, like the brake pads or the brake surface not being in the best condition.
The speaker is talking about pricing expectations—waiting for the car to drop to “under a thousand pounds.” This is a used-car value discussion, often tied to how affordable a model becomes as it ages, and whether it’s realistic for a specific car to hit that budget.
A cult classic is a car that a smaller group of people love a lot. Because the fans really want them, good ones can cost more even if most people don’t care.
“Second-hand” refers to used cars, and the speaker is contrasting availability in the UK market. The point is that there may be fewer used examples available, which can affect pricing and how easy it is to find a good car.
The Citroën 2CV is a small, older car made in France. It was designed to be simple and to cope well with bumpy or rough roads. People talk about it because it’s a well-known classic with a very distinctive character.
The A-pillar is the metal post that holds up the front of the car near the windshield. If the seam there looks bad, it can mean the bodywork wasn’t finished neatly or could be a sign of rust or repair.
Rust is when metal corrodes and starts to break down over time. On older cars, it can spread from seams and hidden areas, so it’s a big deal when deciding whether to buy or restore one.
The speaker criticizes owners who modify Minis, implying that many modifications are mismatched or poorly planned. This is presented as a broader issue with taste and execution—adding parts without understanding how they fit together.
Term
Mark I grill
“Mark I” indicates an early generation/variant of the Mini, and the grille is a visible front-end component that can differ by version. The speaker uses it to illustrate mismatched styling—combining parts from different eras or materials.
Term
9-spoiler
They’re referring to a particular spoiler shape/style. The point is that someone combined it with other parts that don’t really match, so it won’t look right.
This is a styling upgrade that changes the wheel-arch/fender shape to look more aggressive. The speaker thinks it makes the car look worse rather than better.
Bucket seats are contoured, supportive seats that hold you more firmly than a flat bench-style seat. They’re often used in performance-oriented trims to improve lateral support during spirited driving; in this segment they’re described as “60s bucket seats,” implying a retro styling choice.
They’re talking about a steering wheel that looks like it belongs in the 1960s. The point is that the interior is trying to be retro, but it doesn’t all fit together.
It’s a car radio/screen setup where the screen comes out from the dash and pops up. The speaker thinks it looks out of place compared to the rest of the car’s theme.
Concept
effect you're going for
They’re talking about the goal behind the car’s styling—what look the owner is trying to create. Then they say the result doesn’t work and makes the car look bad.
The BMW X4 is a BMW SUV that’s styled to look more like a sporty coupe. The speaker is basically saying they don’t like the way these newer BMW SUVs look.
The BMW X6 is a BMW SUV with a sportier, coupe-like shape. The speaker is listing it as one of the modern BMW SUVs they don’t like.
Car
Mercedes G63
The Mercedes G63 is a very powerful, very expensive version of the Mercedes G-Class. The speaker says it can be fun to drive, but they don’t like the car’s image and who usually owns them.
A monocoque means the car’s body is built to be the main strength of the vehicle, instead of using a separate “frame.” The speaker is saying that if the G-Class were built that way, it might ride and handle better. It’s basically a different way of building the car’s structure.
The Mercedes-Benz AMG One is a very high-end performance car made by Mercedes-AMG. It’s built to be extremely fast and advanced, more like a special project than a normal car. People mention it because it represents the top end of AMG performance.
A Range Rover is a luxury SUV from Land Rover. The discussion is basically about whether it’s worth the money, and how expensive repairs and parts can be.
Here “parts” refers to replacement components needed for repairs and maintenance. The speakers emphasize that Range Rover parts are expensive, which increases total cost of ownership and can also make theft more attractive.
This is a discussion about pricing strategy—raising MSRP/retail pricing until buyers stop paying. The idea is that manufacturers try to find the highest price point the market will still accept.
Concorde was a famous luxury airplane that flew faster than normal jets. They’re using it as a story to explain how people may accept higher prices if they’re used to paying a lot.
Concept
charge more
They’re saying the company can raise prices because customers may assume the price is already higher than it really is. That makes it easier to justify charging more.
They’re saying that what a car is “worth” is often based on what people believe it’s worth. If lots of buyers want the same brand or style, the price can stay high.
They’re saying the appeal of a Range Rover is more than just the car itself. It’s also about the image—what owning one says—and the overall experience people expect.
“Underpinnings” means the main structure of the car—its basic frame and platform. The host is saying even if you start with the right basic foundation, you still might not get the same overall experience.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough, off-road-capable SUV. The speaker is basically saying you can borrow the “bones” from something like this, but the final product still won’t match the Range Rover feel.
Build quality is how well a vehicle is assembled and finished—panel fit, materials, refinement, and how solid everything feels. The speakers connect it to aging: as they get older, they value build quality more because it affects day-to-day satisfaction and perceived longevity.
The Ford Thunderbird is a classic Ford from the 1960s known for being stylish and comfortable. The speaker likes it because the cabin is designed like a “luxury” car, not just a basic old muscle car.
Instead of a single front bench seat, the car has two separate seats—one for the driver and one for the passenger. That usually feels more comfortable and more “luxury.”
Term
theater style rears
This means the back seats are arranged to feel more like theater seating—usually more separated and comfortable than a flat bench. It’s describing how the rear passenger area is laid out.
Pod gauges are gauges mounted in little “pods” or rounded areas on the dashboard. It’s a design choice that can make the dashboard look nicer and the gauges easier to read.
“Running and driving” means the car can start, move under its own power, and be driven safely enough to test it. For a project purchase, this matters because it reduces the risk of buying a non-running or heavily broken car.
A project car is a car you don’t just keep perfect—you plan to work on it little by little. The goal is usually to fix things, improve it, and learn as you go.
They’re deciding whether to buy locally in the UK or import from the US. The choice changes both what’s available and what the final total cost ends up being.
Buying based on photos increases uncertainty because you can’t inspect rust, body damage, mechanical condition, or interior wear in person. The speaker flags this as the main downside of importing and relying on remote listings.
If you buy a car from abroad, you usually have to pay to ship it and then do paperwork to register it locally. Those extra steps can add a lot to the total cost.
A V8 engine uses eight cylinders arranged in a “V” shape, typically delivering strong low-end torque and a distinctive sound. The speaker’s criteria requires a V8, which strongly narrows the pool of eligible cars.
A hardtop is a body style with a fixed roof (as opposed to a convertible soft top). The speaker prefers a hardtop Thunderbird, but is open to alternatives depending on availability and budget.
The Mazda MX-5 is a small, fun two-seat convertible. The speaker is saying they already have that covered, so the other car can be the family-friendly option.
Importing a car from the US (or Canada) often means dealing with differences in specifications, paperwork, and condition verification. The speaker’s point is that buying sight-unseen is risky, so you may need a trusted inspection before committing money. This is a common theme in enthusiast importing: verifying the car’s true condition matters more than the listing description.
If you can’t see the car yourself, they suggest paying an expert to inspect it for you. Think of it like getting a second opinion before you hand over your money. It helps you avoid surprises after the purchase.
They mention using an owners’ club to help with the inspection. The idea is that people who already own the same model know what problems to watch for. It can be a safer way to find help than guessing who to trust.
The speaker describes doing a “full walk round” via a WhatsApp video call, potentially recorded for later review. While video can’t replace an in-person inspection, it can help you verify obvious issues like body damage, missing parts, and condition of key areas. It’s a modern workaround for remote buying.
A four-poster lift is a garage platform that raises a car up using four posts. It lets you look underneath the car safely without crawling on the floor.
The Mercury Cougar is a car made by Mercury, which was a brand under Ford. It was designed to look more stylish and feel a bit more special than a typical family car. People often talk about it because of its classic design.
The Ford Falcon is a car model made by Ford that has been around for many years in different versions. People bring it up because it’s a well-known part of Ford’s older lineup. It can be discussed as an example of classic, everyday cars from that era.
They’re talking about the metal trim that goes around the rear window. Even though it looks like a small, cheap part, one missing piece can cost a lot to buy and install.
Owners groups are places where other owners talk about what goes wrong and what parts cost. The host is recommending you check those communities before you buy so you don’t get surprised.
Importation just means buying a car from another country and getting it shipped in. The key thing is making sure it arrives with everything it should have and that you handle the required paperwork.
This describes a parts-missing scenario where the buyer arranges for missing components to be shipped along with the vehicle. It’s a practical approach to avoid delays after delivery and to ensure the car arrives complete.
A “test drive” is when you drive the car yourself to see if it feels right. Here, friends went over, drove a couple of cars, and then bought one.
Concept
10 grand budget
They’re talking about having a set amount of money to work with. The idea is that you’d spend part of it on the trip and still have enough left for the car and related costs.
Concept
find your car over there
This is about sourcing a car in the US and then bringing it back, which is a common enthusiast strategy. The key concept is that the “car hunt” experience and logistics (travel, purchase, and later import/shipping) can be as memorable as the car itself.
A full-suspension motorcycle has suspension on both the front and rear wheels, improving ride comfort and traction compared to bikes with only one end suspended. The speaker’s wording suggests they’re talking about a specific type of bike setup they bought and rode around.
Top Gear is a famous car show on TV. They’re talking about a moment where someone from the crew gave a “golden envelope” to the presenters, and whether that person was them.
They mention a “golden envelope,” which is a prop from Top Gear. It’s used in a segment where the show gives presenters some kind of instruction or reveal.
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I'm Richard Porter.
I'm Johnny Smith.
And this is On the Other Side of Things, the Smith & Sniff spinoff in which we answer your questions.
You probably know how this works by now, don't we?
So we answer questions that you've sent us to hello at smithandsniff.com.
Is that how it works?
That's all there is to it, really.
OK.
Well, yeah, and because you write Ottersot in the title, we know that it's a question.
Unless someone's playing a trick on us and that's cruel.
But I've got one right here by a chap called Keith McRail.
Hello, you pair of Jethro Tull fans.
I am, actually, Keith.
Thanks.
Back in the 90s, I was working in a local motor factory.
We had a lady come in to collect a head gasket.
Her husband had ordered earlier that day.
Later on, a man came in asking for exactly the same head gasket.
When we said it was the second one that we'd sold today, he told us,
yeah, as my wife was taking the bus home, she folded it up and put it in her handbag
and thus ruined the head gasket.
And his question is, have either of you ever heard of anything similar?
He's added a bit of extra as a PS.
We usually found out lady customers had a lot more sense than the men off of the street.
And when I started in another motor factory back in the 80s,
our counter staff were all women who really knew their stuff and were well respected in the local area.
Us guys were kept in the back stores making brake pipes and relining brake shoes,
usually buffing off extra bits of highly toxic asbestos lining with an angle grinder and no mask.
Different times.
Cheers mate.
Thanks mate.
This is made by Keith aka Beaker, but that's a whole other story in brackets.
Because his mouth hinges open from the bottom.
I love the mouth.
I call my cat that sometimes because my cat's got what I call a trap door mouth.
So this is really good because I do very much miss the older style auto factors
and there are still some about.
And when you know there's a wealth of knowledge behind the counter, they're great.
And I've talked about them previously.
The one that my brother goes to that I go to sometimes with a heavy breathing wheezing guy
with a keyboard that sounds like it's from a BBC Micro.
Plus the vat.
Yeah, exactly.
Plus the dreaded.
Just exhaling really slowly all the time.
Like the last breath of a dying body.
But this is different.
This killed me when I read it.
Folding the head gasket to put it in there.
Folded the head gasket.
I just, it's the conversation when she got home and he went, did you get it?
Did you get the head gasket?
Oh yeah.
Hey, hang on.
It's in my bag and he's looking and he immediately clocks that the handbag is not as long as
the cylinder.
The car that he's working on.
He probably knew what was coming, but he's got to go, it's in there.
Hang on, I'll just get it out for you.
What have you done?
Shitting out.
It's a wonderful scene to imagine, but have I ever seen anything similar?
I don't know.
You sort of read these ones and they get repeated around the internet daily.
Like some guy in an American car forum going saying something like, my brakes were squeaking.
So I put a bit of oil on the discs and things like that.
Oh yeah.
Everyone sort of piles it up.
You wash your car and then you WD-40 the discs and the calipers.
Yes.
Just to keep them shiny or something.
Yeah.
One I saw the other day where a guy was very proudly showing off on some, I can't remember
what the car forum was, but he was rebuilding his engine and he decided it'd be kind of
cool to paint his pistons.
What?
He showed a picture of one painted and one pre-painting.
It was a bit like, what are you doing you wazzak?
It's so dangerous that people are wasting their life doing something like that.
Yes.
Do you not think?
But you know, I suppose those are, well those are just sort of moronic aren't they?
I think a folded head gasket is a kind of innocent mistake.
That is innocent.
Because that is innocent.
You're not familiar with a head gasket and what it does.
You wouldn't know either way would you?
No.
It'll fit in here if I fold it a bit.
No, exactly.
It's like buying a towel and if someone's saying you mustn't fold the towel if you didn't know.
Yeah.
Be like, well okay.
I honestly can't think of any which is quite frustratingly because I know that there are
some golden ones out there.
This is just reminding me, this is not in no way in the same spectrum but for some reason
it's just reminding me of, you know you get those cans of air.
You see these for cleaning out keyboards and stuff like that.
Photographers use them a lot.
Yes, photographers love them.
And I bought one of those and it's very handy because my old laptop used to get crap underneath
the keys and then they wouldn't depress properly.
And all he did was he gave it a little squirt of air and that would clean it out and it
was great.
Were you combing Weetabix onto your keyboard again?
Yes.
I was just grating some Parmesan over my keyboard for a while and then look what happened.
But the thing is that unlike most cans of stuff, that air you're not supposed to shake
it before you use it.
Oh.
And if you do, it's actually a little bit of liquid comes out which is not helpful if you're
squirting it into a keyboard so you do not want that.
So you do not shake the can.
But it's sort of reflexive to shake a can before you use it, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
Like juice, like orange juice or something, I always give it a little shudder.
Yes, yes.
That's the thing.
Someone goes, oh by the way, the cap on that orange juice is broken so just be careful
and no matter how many times you've told them before you get out of the fridge, you will
shake it.
And this is the thing.
The can of air, I'd go, oh no, the H key is not depressing properly.
I'll get the can of air and I'd grab it from the cupboard.
I'd give it a good shake and I'd go, all right, now I've got to leave that for an hour until
it's settled down again.
And it, you know, just sort of being hoisted by your own petard.
I wish I'd talked to you a couple of years ago because I had a keyboard that I liked
very much but it was getting some bits of detritus down the keyboard.
And it was a semi-translucent keyboard so you could see what was down there.
So I decided to take all of the keys off and find a small old paintbrush and paint and
just dust around it like an archaeological dig and then put all of the keys back on.
But I took a photo of the keyboard and I thought, there's got to have been a quicker way to
do this.
It feels like a very long-winded way of doing it.
And I still hadn't worked it out until you just said, yeah, can of compressed air.
I should have just taken it to Greg's workshop where he's got obviously a compressor and
just blown an airline.
Would that have blown all the keys off?
It would have blown the keyboard in half probably.
Yeah, just blown it all through it.
That would have been the folded head gasket of competing.
Yeah.
Okay, well, thank you for that question.
That listener was called Keith.
Yeah, Keith.
And funny enough, I've found a question from another listener also called Keith.
Different Keith.
This is Keith Hilton.
He says, guys, are there any cars you dislike for completely irrational reasons?
For example, I cannot stand the Peugeot RCZ.
Never driven one or even sat in one.
However, the shape of it makes me think it should be mid-engined at a two-seater.
It isn't.
And that puts me right off.
Oh.
I also hate the two CV.
Amazing piece of design.
Fantastic.
If you want to transport dog eggs in a basket of pigs across a field and all that.
I think it was a basket of dog eggs.
That would have...
Why?
Are you going to Scarborough Fair?
Yes.
Mr. Citroen and dog eggs.
He will want this.
I don't care.
That's the design specification.
A basket of plop.
Sorry, Keith continues.
The reason he hates the two CV is that the NEC Motor Show in 1988, I sat in one.
I opened the driver's window to shout to my dad, not really knowing how the little clip
to hold it worked.
The window hovered for a split second before gravity took hold and it slammed on my fingers.
Oh gosh.
Right.
So hates it because of that incident.
Yes.
He concludes by saying, neither car has anything fundamentally wrong with it but I still loathe
them.
I mean, hate is a strong word.
I think he's wrong about the RCZ because I actually like the RCZ a lot.
I think it's...
The roof alone, the piece of glass is just unbelievable.
Yeah.
And it lives in shadow of the TT, it probably always will.
But it is great.
Sloppy gear change but everything else is good.
Was there a sort of...
God, I can't remember what it was called but there was a kind of sporty...
Yeah, it was an R version.
Top of the range.
RCZ-R, I think it was.
Yes.
And that was a really nice car to drive, I thought.
Yeah.
The one I borrowed had squeaky brakes, which is just annoying and that's been a whole week
being annoyed but going, oh, this car is really nice to drive but unless you brake, in which
case then it's annoying, it's a bizarre thing but you can't hold the car responsible for
that.
I just took, I guess, one off with that car.
I keep waiting for them to be under a thousand pounds but they're not, they're nowhere near
a thousand pounds.
Every time I look.
Oh, really?
No.
Are they, so are they like a, are we thinking they're a bit of a cult classic and that they...
I think the people who like them will pay more for them and I guess there's less second
hand ones in the RTT, certainly in the UK anyway.
So yeah, maybe I'll look after this, I'll have a little troll.
But 2CV, I do understand that in the, I mean, hate, again, hate's a strong word.
I don't really like the Austin Mini.
I know people hate me for hate, for not liking the Mini but I'm just not.
I just don't like, I don't like the build quality.
I don't like the seam on the A-pillar.
It really annoys me.
I wouldn't want to own the car because I know all it ever does is leech is rot.
And it irritates me.
It always feels slightly unfinished.
Any time I've seen a restored Mini, it always looks like it's still not finished.
And anyone that modifies them, yeah, most people that modify Minis haven't got any taste
and that also annoys me.
Ah, no, that I do agree with, yes.
I'm instantly irritated.
It's like, you didn't know what you were doing to this car.
You should have thought about it before you started throwing parts on it.
But I used to refer to it as mental illness because it's just like this weird brain condition
where people with Minis insist on throwing sort of a missed match grab bag of Tata.
So you'll get like a 9-spoiler and a Mark I grill and you're like, no,
it'll never work because one's plastic and one's crow.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, you get like a 1989 car.
They've put those massive sport pack arches on, which I think look actually not very good.
Yeah.
And but then you're right, Mark I grill and then they've gone to town
with like some sort of real 60s bucket seats inside and a tiny little
like 60 style steering wheel.
Yeah.
But then also one of those stereos where the screen slides out and pops up.
Oh, yeah.
From from the 90s, like none of this matches or makes sense.
What is the effect you're going for here?
Because at the moment, the effect you've achieved is an absolutely gash looking car.
But yeah, I think I'm with you on that.
Keith, he's opening, he's somewhat opening a box of frogs here.
I mean, you know, there's a lot of current day
or nearly current SUVs that I just can't bear.
Yeah.
BMW X4, BMW X2, BMW X6, most of the ML's.
I kind of harbor a low level dislike of the Mercedes G63.
Yeah, it's it's amusing to drive.
Yeah, we made a video with one, didn't we, years ago?
Yeah.
But actually, I think the reasons I don't like it is that it is almost
exclusively owned by absolute hell nuts.
And the other reason I don't like it is actually, I think not irrational.
It's sort of it's I think it's rational, which is that some of that car
is not as good as Mercedes could make it.
It's deliberately got that those very sort of
funky door fits because that's what the G class has always had since the 70s.
So they sort of when they redid that car completely,
they could have engineered that out, but they didn't.
And frankly, they could have made it a, you know, a monocoque
and make it drive better because there's no one takes those off road.
Do they? Not anymore, the worth too much.
Yeah. No, exactly.
So it's sort of it.
I don't know.
I just annoys me because it could be better and it could be nicer to drive.
But unfortunately, the absolute peanuts who buy them seem to like it the way it is.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, that's that's one for me, I think.
I don't hate them.
I just I just kind of go, I don't get why some people get a
visible, stiffy for them.
Yes. A lot of car journalists as well.
And you go, if you really like that car, then everything you ever say
about how important handling is, is immediately voided.
True. And we've talked about the G class before.
And I said the best ones are the base model, non AMG ones.
As soon as you AMG it, it's just all kinds of wrong.
Yeah, there we go.
And I don't really like Range Rovers, but we won't go into that, Keith.
Well, yeah, well, we've you've been there before, haven't you?
But I do. I really like Range Rovers, but that's some.
I just I don't think they're good enough and they're too expensive
for what they are and the parts are too expensive and they go well.
The parts are expensive and this is what drives the theft of them apparently.
So yeah, that is true.
I don't think they're too expensive for what they are because more like the thing
with the Range Rover is that Land Rover keeps sort of upping the price
because they're trying to find a point at which people don't pay that.
It's the it's the it's mad.
It's that thing.
I wrote about this once when I reviewed the current Range Rover
that when Bruce Shareways was losing so much money on Concorde,
they did a survey of people who flew on Concorde regularly.
And of course, they're all like rock stars and CEOs and stuff.
And they said one of the questions was how much did you pay for your tickets
to fly on Concorde today?
And without fail, all of them went, don't know, didn't book it myself.
It was probably about 10 grand.
And the truth was it was five grand.
And so, well, everyone on this plane thinks these tickets should cost more.
So let's just charge more.
And they did they put the price up and they stopped losing so much money
on Concorde flights.
And it was because the people didn't know what they were paying for them.
Well, they didn't.
But also this is like what you think it's worth is really what it is.
And it's the same with the Range Rover.
It's like, obviously, the Range Rover is now 100 grand car minimum.
But it's probably because a lot of people sort of think it always should
have been in recent years because it's a Range Rover.
There's nothing like it.
I think that's the thing.
It is the Concorde phenomenon.
There was nothing like Concorde.
There is nothing quite like a Range Rover.
There are other luxury SUVs, but nothing quite feels like or looks like a Range Rover.
And it's weird.
But you know, I mentioned on the show recently that we're sort of toying now
with what we get as our next family car.
And we were talking about it the other day.
And my wife just went, is there anything that Range Rover make?
It's like, it's really interesting how she was hoping the answer was yes.
There's something that perfectly fits the bill because the lure of the Range Rover
as a sort of, you know, image and experience is still great.
I think to a lot of people, well, it is.
It is an off.
Which is why people buy them even though they know that there's things wrong.
They just go, well, there's nothing like it.
But this thing, there is nothing like it.
That's where they've got they've got everyone by the.
Well, can the rest of the car industry just wake up?
Anyway, it's a bigger conversation.
If there's nothing like a Range Rover and everyone's paying whatever they'll want
to pay for a car that breaks down a lot, why isn't the rest of the car industry
going, well, we could do that.
Lexus could do that.
Lexus could do that.
Lexus Toyota could do that all day.
But they just can't because if they could, they would.
They could.
You get Land Cruiser underpinnings and you get Lexus to do everything
in the cabard and all the ergonomics bang done.
But they do do that and it's still not a Range Rover.
That's what's that thing that's a Land Cruiser in the US.
You get the Lexus one, I can't which model it is.
But it looks great.
Like it's a very nice car.
I find it quite appealing because you go, hmm, as you get older,
I just find build quality more and more attractive and I've got a build quality key,
my friend.
Yeah, build quality is key.
Unless you're paying nothing in which case you'll forgive it.
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Anyway, so anyway, let's do another question.
I've got a question from a guy called, I just checked I'm allowed to call, isn't it?
Yeah, guy called Paul.
Um, title is Ottersot, yank buying advice needed exclamation mark.
Hello, you delightful pair of SSG's meat whistles in brackets,
delete as appropriate.
I'll go with meat whistle today, Paul.
Thanks, though.
Yeah, fair enough.
I turned 40 this year and as a long time admirer of 60s American vehicles,
the time and funds are now right to get serious about buying something.
I've currently got my site set on a 1964 to 66 Ford Thunderbird,
partly due to their affordability versus Mustangs and similar.
And secondly, the interiors are fabulous with individual front seats,
theater style rears, pod gauges for temperatures and the like.
Unlike a lot of cars of that era, later sixties, especially that,
despite looking incredibly cool from the outside,
there were rather uninspiring slabs of black on the inside.
This is true.
So my plan here is to get something in a running driving condition,
but still a project car that I can work on over the years with my son.
My budget will not stretch to a polished garage queen.
My questions are these.
One, should I buy something that's already in the UK or something from the United States?
Advantages of something in the UK as I could go and see it before parting
with my hard earned cash, someone else has already gone to the effort
of registering it and shipping it and done the associated mods and checks needed.
However, Thunderbirds are rare in the UK and prices seem quite high.
My budget is an absolute max of £10,000 and very few appear to be under this limit.
There's plenty more choice in the US, of course, as well,
which seems to be reflected in the price.
But a searching four and a half to six grand will get a solid runner in this condition.
Obvious disadvantage will be relying solely on photos rather than seeing in the flesh
and having to pay for shipping, import, registration, blah, blah, blah.
But this would still work out far cheaper.
Two, whilst the Thunderbird is top of my list,
are there any good alternatives I've managed to not consider?
Criteria must be V8, 62 to 1968, depending on what it is, hardtop,
two door preferable, but not essential and four seats so I can take the whole family out in it.
I have an MX-5 to cover the two seat soft top option.
It needs to have an interesting interior and be within budget,
whether UK sourced or imported with associated costs.
Apologies for such a sensible car related consumer advice question.
Thanks for the thoughts and advice.
CMTMB, Paul.
Well, have you got any thoughts on this, Richard?
Well, my thought is that this is your department, I'd guess,
because you have imported a car from the US.
This is my department.
More than one?
Yeah.
Did you, did your, as your lowrider, did you bring that in from the States?
Was that already here?
I didn't bring that one in.
A guy I knew brought it in not that long before I ended up buying it.
But I have a charger you brought in straight from the US.
And I've imported two Volvo 262 Betonis.
If you remember those and a couple of other cars, which I've actually forgotten.
But yeah, I've imported a few from from the US
and a couple of friends of mine have brought in Canadian cars too.
So I think I think I would buy from over there.
And what I would do is if you're worried about buying something
without being able to see it, I would actually pay someone to inspect it
either through an owner's club or something like that
so that you can get a second opinion on that car before you park with the money.
But the great thing is now you can have a full walk round
if the owner's happy with like a, you know, like a WhatsApp video call
which you could record and you can really say,
oh, can you go a bit closer on that?
Or could I pay you, I don't know,
$50 to take it to a four, a four poster lift in a garage near you?
So I actually think it's not as much, it's not as buying blind as it was.
I love those Thunderbirds.
I think the Thunderbirds are great.
When anyone says they want a Mustang, but they don't have the money,
I always say Mercury Cougar, because I think it's an ace looking car.
And it's basically, you know, it is a Mustang.
You've got the Ford Falcon, of course.
And the galaxies, I mean, galaxies, they're huge, lanyachty things.
And they don't they don't fetch anywhere
near what what things like Mustangs do.
But I think they're ace looking tons of room for the family as well.
And so I would do that and just bear in mind with American cars, sometimes
the things that you don't expect to be expensive parts wise are.
So like, oh, it's missing one of those pieces of stamped,
cheap, flimsy looking stainless steel surrounds around the rear window.
Oh, I'm sure that's fine.
And then you find out that one piece is five hundred dollars.
And it's just a really horrible, cheap, sea shaped piece of metal.
And I've had that with the Dodge before.
So do your homework via owners groups and that kind of thing.
But importing is dead easy.
Don't be scared by importation.
And I've I've had no issues with importation.
I always containerize it.
And if you if you can order, if you know it is missing some bits,
order those bits, get them to be sent with the car over so that
when the car arrives on the dock, it's got the bits you you know it was missing
in the boot. Oh, you know, job done, mate, job done.
Wise words.
Wise, wise words.
See, I knew you'd know this one.
This is this is right up your street, isn't it?
Well, or yeah, or if you can afford it.
A couple of friends of mine have gone over there on holiday on a whim,
you know, like a short holiday, gone and test driven a couple of the cars,
picked one and bought it, actually driven it and, you know,
immediately got some memories and a connection with it.
Yeah, driven it to the port, containerized it.
And then they see it in six weeks time.
And then they've started their lovely relationship with it.
Should I remain?
Oh, yeah. I mean, also just FYI,
the other day, my wife was looking at flights to the US and I think it was
so Heathrow to Los Angeles on British Airways was you could get an
economy ticket for sort of 250 quid. What?
Yeah, it's just weird because I think planes, planes tickets have got quite expensive
and the days of, you know, sort of bargain basement.
Oh, look, you could fly to Florida for a hundred pounds are gone.
But yeah, it's 250 quid.
Bloody hell, you know, can you send me the link to that?
If it's telling us.
Well, that's it.
I don't know if that was in the sale or something, but it's still that.
So just I mentioned this is because it's like you could conceivably
go quite cheaply.
Yeah.
To the US, perhaps if you sort of within your 10 grand budget,
you allocated a couple of grand to a trip to the United States for a week or so.
Yeah, it's it's not as cheap as it used to be to exist while you're there.
You know, you used to be able to eat heartily and cheaply.
And it's not quite the case in my experience anymore.
Everything's got very expensive over there.
But you could still use some of your budget for a trip and it'd be
I think you're right.
It would make it very memorable, wouldn't it?
Very special somehow to actually find your car over there.
But we just sleep on Venice Beach.
You'd be up to five.
I would just eat out of a bin, sleep on Venice Beach,
buy a really nice slender bird and then come home.
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
OK, I mean, this is not your advice thus far has been excellent.
But I'm going to say, Paul, you know, use your discretion as to whether you follow Johnny's thoughts on this.
I've a known a full suspension motorbike
that you buy off Craig's List as soon as you get there.
Ride that around. Yeah. Yeah.
There you go.
Um, I'll just do one final really quick question from a listener called Duggy,
who says, Richard, were you ever the man in the white lab coat
who gave the presenters a golden envelope on top gear?
And if not, why not?
How was it decided who was who would and was it something the crew force overdoing?
Or try to avoid?
Yeah, probably tried to avoid.
That's why I didn't do it.
I think I might have done it.
I thought I thought you had done it.
But maybe I'm just I might have done.
I can't remember when, but it was just because, you know,
if you're not used to being on camera, it's it's just not it's not necessarily a fun experience.
And of course, everyone who did it on our team, as soon as that show went out,
the phones would just blow up with people going, just seen you on telly.
And that's a weird experience in itself.
Yeah, I just tried to avoid it.
And the thing is, you know, he could always it was usually one of the researchers.
So sort of someone relatively junior.
There's incredibly noisy helicopter going over my house.
I always think it's if you have a job as essentially an extra
where your job is to on cue, walk in, put something on a table and walk away.
You overanalyze the very simple tasks that you've been given.
That's what I always think.
You know, oh, what?
You just want me to walk in?
Just walk. Oh, OK.
I definitely waved a flag to start or finish a race.
I can't remember which and I sort of managed to make a mess of it.
Exactly. It's that kind of thing.
Because it was exactly that.
You're overthinking it.
Yeah. And then you watch it back and go, oh, God, I've fucked up that simple task
because I was just worried too much about it because you're on camera.
So I think you're not used to it.
You just you do.
You get all tangled possibly literally when the flag was involved.
But yeah, so it's I used to avoid it as a lot of us did.
And you just pull rank and go, right, researcher, white coat on, please.
Yes. It's your turn.
So yeah, but anyway, yeah, that's why.
Good. Right. Well, look, that's probably enough questions for now.
But if you have one for us, hello, Smith and sniff.com is the email address.
As ever, if you can put Ottersot at the start of your subject line,
it just helps us to find the questions amongst all the other emails
we receive on many varied and excellent topics.
Well, we'll we'll endeavour to answer them within three years.
With that is generally where the Smith and sniff ombudsman likes us
to put the threshold within three years is our does fair as you.
And also with the due sense that we can't answer every question
because we do get quite a lot. But, you know, don't let that put you off.
We do answer some.
And so the really, it's just, you know, make your question good
and we'll we'll do our best to get to it.
And that's that. Yes.
But we'll be back on Monday with a main show with a twist and
which will become clear drum roll until then.
Thanks for listening. Goodbye.
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About this episode
Smith & Sniff’s Q&A spinoff mixes garage-lore with irrational car grudges and practical buying advice. A listener recounts a “folded head gasket” mishap from a motor factory counter, sparking jokes about other dumb-but-believable mistakes (and even compressed-air can reflexes). Another Keith vents about cars he hates for personal reasons, leading to debate over the Peugeot RCZ and the Citroën 2CV. The biggest segment tackles a 40-year-old’s £10k plan to buy a 1964–66 Ford Thunderbird project, weighing UK vs US sourcing, inspection options, and import costs. They close with a Top Gear “white lab coat” question and why crew avoid camera extras.
Jonny and Richard answer listeners’ questions about accidentally folding a head gasket, cars you dislike for irrational reasons, buying an American classic, and who got to wear the white lab coat on Top Gear.