Our 2025 F1 Driver Ratings: P21 to P11

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy.

Driver ratings, but this time we're not actually saying any more driver ratings.

We are looking back at the entire season to see how our grades stacked up

and to grade and rate.

Well, we're not great. We're just kind of averaging, aren't we?

From 21st all the way to 1st, 21st, of course, being Jack Doane.

The entirety...

Spoiler.

I know, sorry. Sorry. Spoiler alert.

Jack Doane was in fact in this season.

If you haven't watched the 2025 season and you're watching this,

I recommend going and watching the races first.

Yes, we're going to be looking at how essentially moving and removing, in fact,

the recency bias that a lot of us Formula One fans can experience

and seeing where all the drivers stacked up.

Indeed, yeah. Like I say, it's average of the whole season.

So no recency bias.

Obviously, a lot of the drivers have had a tail of two halves.

And also what's exciting about this is I don't know as well,

what's going to arrive and neither do you.

The whole sheet has been prepared for us by a lovely assistant.

The point you said, what's going to arrive?

I was like, what is arriving?

Yeah, so I'm sort of excited and also going,

oh, God, what are we going to get here?

Is it going to age really badly?

And people are going to be like, oh, my God, why is this guy there?

We're about to find out.

Yeah, we don't usually have our sheets prepared for us, but this one...

No, this one I wanted to go in blind.

Yeah, go in completely blind and react to it as we go.

So very exciting.

A quick note, if a driver has the same grade, it goes on count backs,

just like the real F1 championship.

So the driver with the most 10s and the most 9s and the most 8s,

and that's how they position either one way or the other.

Right, let's begin.

21st position for our average driver ratings across the entire

2025 season for me was Jack Dewan with a 3.7 average grade.

He had a best grade of 6 in Bahrain and a 2 in Australia.

The 2 I think was, you know, he's a rookie, slippery conditions,

went on the line and crashed out.

But I'm not surprised it was an upsetting few races for Jack Dewan.

I hope Dewan can one day look back fondly that he got to Formula 1,

but I'm sure it will sting quite a lot because he had, honestly,

I can't think of any driver, any rookie that's come into a season

and been essentially just understood across the entire

Formula 1 community in Paddock that he's going to lose his seat

almost no matter what.

Indeed, yeah.

So P21 for me is also Jack Dewan with exactly the same average grade,

3.7, best, of course, the 6 in Bahrain, worst, a 3 in Australia,

Japan, Saudi and Miami.

He had a really difficult season, of course, not even a full season.

Only the few races that he did.

Bahrain was the only standout every other grade.

You know, I mentioned those 3s, he got 4 in China.

Not a good season for him.

Of course, he was kind of doomed from the start,

had some big crashes as well.

And yeah, I think the fact that he is kind of gutting that

he didn't manage to, you know, even achieve like a points

finish or something, because I don't think the Alpine was as

bad that stage.

It still wasn't an amazing car, but certainly wasn't the

absolute tractor that it was towards the end of the season.

The fans also gave it to Jack Dewan with a 4.2 average

grade, 6 in Bahrain and a worst of 3 in Miami.

Right, let's go to 20th position.

20th position, I have Franco Colopinto with a grade of 4.7.

His best was a 7 in Singapore, Canada and the Netherlands

and his worst was a 2 in Silverstone.

Yeah, Colopinto, obviously he didn't have a point

scoring finish.

I do believe that the Alpine was worse,

particularly towards the end of the season.

I can understand people saying that it's close between

doing and Colopinto.

I don't personally agree.

I think doing was worse and my grades obviously reflect

that maybe Colopinto is in a weird way fortunate that

the car was worse.

So maybe it didn't look as bad that, you know,

in some of the races where he was finishing 20th on

the road, it was only one position behind Gasly

in 19th.

So it didn't look so bad, but Colopinto had his

races where he was beating Gasly as well,

which is why it's reflected of him being, you know,

a whole grade higher than what doing achieved.

My 20th position was also Franco Colopinto with

exactly the same average of 4.7.

I gave two 7 out of 10s in Canada and

Netherlands and a worst of one in Silverstone.

I'm not really surprised that Franco's down here.

He had odd stacked against him as well,

because he came into the season without pre-season

testing.

He just was putting the car after doing was dropped.

Now did have a little bit of experience, of course,

in the previous season, but still very much treated

as a rookie.

And, you know, I echo your thoughts in the fact

that a lot of his performances may have gone unnoticed

towards the end of the season when he was

matching Gasly, but then Pierre Gasly just

randomly just got one with the car and

scored some points.

And that was slightly surprising at times, for sure,

for Gasly.

Yeah, it's not a bad season for Franco.

I'm sure he will need to do better next year.

You know, he can't be having a no points

hole for next year, especially with Alpine

putting lots of resource into 2026.

I think in some ways it's worked quite nicely

for him to just get used to Formula One,

himself and get used to the calendar and things

like that.

Next year, he needs to step it up and, well,

step it up in the sense of score points, but

also match Gasly and that will be something

that he can be happy with.

And I think the team as well.

The fans also gave it to Franco Colopinto

with a lower average score of a 4.2.

And he was tied with Dewin, who was, of course,

was in 21st, a best of six in Netherlands

and Canada and a zero in Silverstone.

The fans were not happy at all.

Colopinto was higher because he had more

sixes out of ten.

It was that close between the two of them.

There you go. Very close indeed.

Nineteenth position.

Mine goes to

Yuki Sonoda with a 5.1

average, a best of nine out of ten in

Australia and a worst of twos in

Austria and Silverstone.

Such a

painful thing to even have to talk about

Yuki.

He would have been so much higher had

he never gone to Red Bull, but

this is the beauty and curse of driver

ratings because one of the biggest

things we have to take into account

are where the teammate ended up.

It's the only glimpse we ever get as

to the potential of the car and

that second seat similar to how

Perez, you know, struggled and

everyone before him in this and

Lawson, of course, in the sense of

we have to compare

Max Verstappen and Yuki

Australia

was one of his highest and that

was when he wasn't even in the Red Bull.

So that tells you all you need

to know about where Yuki should have

stayed and just such

a disappointing season overall.

So yes, I

have the same driver in

Nineteenth, Yuki Sonoda,

a worse result overall

with a 4.8

out of ten. His best grade

was a nine in Australia for me and his worst

was a one in Austria.

The nine, of course,

being when he wasn't even in that Red Bull

and as we say

in every single driver ratings, you know,

you can take it off the bingo sheet,

yes, we don't know

it's a very hard driver to grade because

of how

weird that second Red Bull seat is

but as we mentioned so many times

we had to grade him in the same way we did

with Sergio Perez the previous year as we did

with Liam Lawson at the start of the season

and

he had a really poor

run of form finishing 17th

in the World Championship when his teammate almost won it

is not

great reading even with

the curse of the second seat.

So a really sad way for Yuki

to probably end his Formula One

career because I really wanted to see him in that Red Bull.

Really looking forward

to seeing him in the Red Bull when he jumped in

but it did not go well

to say the very least.

The fans

put Lance Stroll in 19th

with a 4.5

average grade, a best of

eight in Australia, Silverstone, Hungary

and the Netherlands

but a zero in Spain

and Japan and when you look

at his grades

especially from the fans

it's not great reading

as soon as Lance doesn't turn up

or has like a reasonable sort of

we would probably give him a 3 out of 10

4 out of 10, the fans were like

1 out of 10, 0 out of 10

and that's the reason why his grades are so low

from the fans. But equally

at any time he does anything good

everyone's like 8, 9, 10, whatever

But the fact he has a 4.5 average

suggests that there were more

horrendous grades from the fans

than there were great ones.

Let's head to 18th position

18th for me

is Lance Stroll with an average grade

5.0

his best grade was an 8

which he got in Australia, Silverstone

and Hungary and his worst was a 2

in Japan, Canada

and Qatar

Lance Stroll at the start

of the season of course

was in that fight with Fernando Alonso

he got a brilliant 6th place

in Australia

and then followed up with a points finish Alonso

could not get in the points

he was having a lot of poor luck

in a lot of 11th places

and it was like oh my god

Lance Stroll was actually going to

beat him in the championship

but his form

kind of dropped off

he still had his good races where

particularly those kind of like

weird races where you have an unusual

wet race or something crazy happens

Lance Stroll is really one of those drivers

that even when he qualifies poorly

which is a lot of the time

he manages to deliver a good result

and some people may look

at the championship table

and say oh he's got 33 points

it's not that bad

but as you say you can only go on what

we see in the head to head

and the head to head is not great reading

at all Alonso is beating him 16

8 in the race

and in qualifying Alonso

is beating him 24-0

which

is crazy so yeah not a great season

for Stroll despite some high moments

do you include the sprint quali as well

would it be 30-0?

No the sprint quali was

I think it was China

it was 5-1 in the sprint quali as well

so Alonso washed

OK

my 18th position

was Lance Stroll as well with a 5.1

average grade

was tied with Sonoda for me

but had more 9s

so Lance Stroll got a 9 from me in Australia

with that 6th place

with a 10 in Japan

for Lance Stroll

yeah he scored

18 less

sorry no more than that

23 less points than Fernando Alonso

but still

a decent haul of points for Lance

but the problem is for him

he goes on a run of just stinkers

he goes on a run of

he's such a strange driver

to sort of follow because he will have

these great performances and you go

wow what a great race from Lance

what a great strategy

like in Silverstone

things like that where you just go

oh Lance does care

but then he will have 3 or 4 races

where he will be knocked out in Q1

you look at his results

6th and 9th to start the season

then it's 20th, 17th, 16th, 16th

got a P5 in Miami in the sprint

then 15th, 15th withdrawn

17th, 14th

and then towards the end of the season

18th, 17th

and then the 13th, 12th, 14th, 16th

retired 17th so

what happened in Abu Dhabi as well

P10 so we got a point there

but this is the reason why

these are the averages this is where

the recency bias comes out or just

he had good points finishes

and here there if he doesn't put a consistent

season together he's going to be low

in our driver ratings and this is what

has shown so not surprised at all

to see Lance down in 18th

the fans

with a 5.2 average grade

a best of 8 in China

in Baku and a worst of 2 in Austria

and Silverstone

P17 in our driver

ratings average

for me goes to Liam Lawson

with a 5.5

average grade a best of 10

in Austria and Baku and a worst

of 1 in China

I think Liam Lawson may well

have had a chance

to sniff of being higher up

had he not started at Red Bull

with those two races at the beginning

of the season because I gave him a

what did I give him I'm looking at yours sorry

we go to Liam Lawson I gave him a 2 and a 1

at the start of the year

which of course does not help an average grade

in the slightest

Lawson season

again sort of pockets of

really good drives

but not enough I'm not going to

liken him to Lance Troll season

but there weren't

enough massive performances to maybe

thrust his way further up

the order for me

I look at the season for him

he had some great points finishes

Baku being one of them of course

in P5 a 6 in Austria

for Lawson though

he was on the back foot I will absolutely

say that as well with the fact that

he had this Red Bull disaster

he then goes into a car

he's not done pre-season testing in

he's not going to be insanely different

because he was in the car

at moments in the season

before but I think Lawson's

done a pretty good job you know 14th

in the championship Hajar

took all the headlines and finished 13

points further down the road so

for Lawson season it's 17th

and that's purely from the

consistency of it but not a

disaster of a season considering

his P17 in my averages

no I've got Liam Lawson as well

17th with a 5.6

best being of course Baku

and Austria worse being that one

out of 10

in China I'm surprised

Liam Lawson is this low

because I think he has had

a decent season

when you take away that Red Bull

stint and the start

of his V-Carb stint where

it took a while the kind of final few

races he was a match for Hajar

and I think you know the highlight

being Baku where he had

that absolutely sensational

qualifying and then

backed up with a great performance in the race as well

but when I look back on it

I think the reason he is so low you mention

his kind of inconsistency

with the Red Bull

of course I gave him a 2 and a 1 as well

because it was really poor but he's had

a lot of races this year where he's taken

a front wing off or had contact with

other drivers and

yes he's had his great races

where he's got 10s and 8s and 7s

and things from us

but you know when he gets

penalties and things like taking his wing off

obviously we're giving him like 4s and things

and that's bringing his whole average grade down

so yeah maybe

a surprise but when you look at it overall

it's been a very inconsistent season

for Lawson

In 17th for the fans is also Liam Lawson

so we're in agreement

0.2 separating Thomas 5.6

my 5.5 and the fans

4 out of 10 and

they also gave a 10 in Austria and a 1

in China

let's go to P16

P16 is Pierre Gasly

with an average grade

Pierre Gasly

Pierre

it's because Grace always says Pierre

5.8

Gasly got

his best was a 10 in Silverstone

of course an incredible drive to get points

in that tractor his worst was a 2

in Monaco

Gasly

has his rating

I would say so been affected

by the fact that he's driving a really

bad car so even if he's had the

race of his life and finished 19th

we're giving him a 5

out of 10 because we just don't know

I love that we constantly give a little nod

to Alex Albon who told us that

exactly yeah it's so true

man Tommy gave me a 4 and I had the drive

of my life it's given us context

it's open our eyes

no it hasn't changed the grade

because you can't you can't we can't say

I reckon Gasly would have won that race

it's funny to think about

and of course you know

if he smashes his teammate by 20 seconds

in the 19th place we give him

his props and give him like a 7 and a

8 or whatever so we've

done that throughout the season Gasly

just hasn't had the car to compete

18th in the championship

a shocking year I don't think

16th reflects

you know his drive

but then he did

you know fall off a little bit

and wasn't looking all too great

at the kind of midpoint of the season

and got outqualified by Colopinto

quite a few races and things so

yeah I'm sure it will change if the Alpine is

much better

my P16 was also Pierre Gasly

we're all pretty much in agreement

we've been in agreement the entire time

Tommy let's hope it doesn't go for the entirety

of the whole order

but my Pierre Gasly

my Pierre Gasly

P16 was Pierre Gasly

with a 5.8 average

as well I gave a 10

in Bahrain and Silverstone

and a worst of 3 in Monaco and Hungary

when I look at

Pierre Gasly's season in terms of

where he scored points

you know I'm sat there and I'm going

you know he probably shouldn't have been

16th in the average driver ratings

considering the Alpine car

you know but then I think we have

well I've reflected I gave him a 10 in Bahrain

Tommy didn't crazy scenes I think

looking back at it now

you gave him a 9 I think

clearly it wasn't on the podium so not good enough

but when we look at the season now as Alpine

you can clearly see that there was literally

no effort put into Alpine's

2025 campaign

but he is the

he is affected by the fact that

for a lot of the season at the back

fighting Colopinto but then

that is what we also factored into our grades

a lot of the time is that oh well

it kind of looks worse on Gasly

fighting Colopinto than it does Colopinto

fighting Gasly because Colopinto

is a newer driver and Gasly is

a race winner and a proven one

to be able to score podiums

and be at the front so

yeah I think the fact that he was

at the back a lot of the time we would then not really

give a nod to that

but that's purely down to his performance

unfortunately and it's

it's not on him but like

it's harsh to be 16th

when you've like beaten your teammate

through the whole year scored 22 points

when your teammates have scored none

but equally we can't be giving 8s every week

because he's finished 19th and they are

beating his teammates so it's a tough

the only way he would get those higher grades is if he

put 30 seconds on Colopinto

or whatever it might have been

okay the fans gave Pierre Gasly

a 5.5 and 16th as well

we're all in agreement

I'm crying right now you can think that by the comments

best grade from the fans

was a 9 in Silverstone and Barone

goodness gracious

10s for Gasly at all throughout the whole year from the fans

not even Silverstone

and a 3 for Hungary

and Singapore

we're now going to 15th position

mine is Gabrielle Bortoletto with a 5.8

average

was tied with Gasly but has more

than 9 out of 10s

Gabi had a best of 10 out of 10

in Austria and Hungary

from me and a worst of 1

in Brazil and Las Vegas

Bortoletto's season

again hindered by the Sauber

I'd say for maybe half of it

but then the Sauber came really good

and I think we will

I haven't seen where Hultgenberg is in my list

but I'm imagining he's going to be pretty high

especially considering he took an 11

from both of us at one point as well

but for Bortoletto

he can be proud of his season

as a rookie

as much as he's 15th

that's not a slander

everyone's so close

and if you have a string of 3, 4, 5 races

where it's sub par

it can catapult you down the order

so for Bortoletto

I think he can be very happy with his season overall

he's shown that he's got

some great performances in him

I'm looking at Canada

Silverstone, Spa

the Netherlands as well

Bortoletto had a great run of races

in the middle of the season

and so yeah I'm excited to see what he can do

20, 26 and beyond

I also have Gabriel Bortoletto

it will change I'm sure

at some point

hopefully

and if not we can have a hug at the end

we can hug anyway why not

with a 5.9

out of 10

Best was his 10 in Austria

and Hungary in his worst

was a 1 in Vegas and Brazil

his season at the end of the day

has been a mixed bag

he is a rookie

so that is part of it as well

and

of course his grade

will have absolutely plummeted

with the shocking races he had

in Las Vegas and Brazil

where he crashed out on lap 1

and then also had in Vegas

a double crash

out in Brazil

in the sprint and the main race

but he's had that

those kind of high moments where

in the middle of the season

he went on that run where the Salba

looked quite good and he got an 8th

a 9th a 6th and an 8th quite close together

and we're kind of thinking

okay he could rock it his way up the championship

but unfortunately

only one more point

to finish after that

and it didn't really go to plan

and I don't think

I think of all the drivers

and I'm not saying

he's been better than Nico Holkenberg

and Holkenberg deserves a huge amount of credit

and I'm sure that will be reflected from his grade

but I think of all the drivers

Holkenberg finishing 11th

in the championship with all the points

he scored versus Bortoletto

all the way down in 19th

if you look to that on paper you'd say Bortoletto is absolutely useless

and that is certainly not the case

you look at the head-to-head in qualifying

Bortoletto has outscored

Holkenberg 12-11

and in the race it's 12-11

in Holkenberg's favour so incredibly close

Holkenberg's just maximised

the big results

and that's why he's so far up and that is experience

so there we go

Yeah for sure, I think if I was to change

I would probably swap Gasly and Bortoletto

around considering the performance of the cars

like I feel like Bortoletto

for the majority of the season has had a better car

than Gasly of course he is a rookie

and that's where we factor in sometimes our grades

and are a little bit more forgiving

but that's just a swap of one position

in our average driver ratings

the fans also gave it to Gaby Bortoletto

with a 5.7 average grade

a 10 in Austria and Hungary

and a worst of one in Las Vegas

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let's go to 14th position tommy

14th

it's oof time it's

Lewis Hamilton

6.0

his best was an 8

in china, imola, austria,

silverstone

and circuit of the americas

at his worst was a 2

in katar

my word Lewis Hamilton

some people you know 14th

sound incredibly harsh

dare I say some people would put him even lower than that

if you were picking he's had an awful

season I'm not going to beat around

the bush here we don't want to see it

we've said it so many times we don't want to see him

fail it was so exciting seeing him go

to ferrari but my word

has it been a stinker of a season

for Lewis Hamilton

you know absolutely trounced

by charle claire in the points tally

of course

the headline being that

he's not scored a podium

this season when the likes of hulkenberg

hadja science got two

podiums it's not

not gone well and you think a

driver of Lewis Hamilton's

caliber you know he's not

he's not received a 9 all season

never mind a 10

he's not had any particularly

stunning drives where you've

kind of gone oh let Hamilton still has

it in him and then of course

you know it's the other

grades have been

much lower than that and have some really

poor results particularly

towards the end of the season where he's qualifying

and not even making it into q2 so

what an awful

awful year for Lewis Hamilton

I could not have predicted

no one could have predicted it had been this bad

and we just wait to see

what he can do in 26 and see

if he can turn his form around

in a new regulation set

because he needs to he absolutely does

in 14th position for me

is Lewis Hamilton as well

with a 6.1

average grade a best of 8 in China

emula ostria silverstone and cota

and a worst of 2 in the

Netherlands

you would have

been absolute

the comments if either of us

had said you know Hamilton

would not get a podium

at Ferrari

people would have been like what

are you talking about

not a win at that stage

not a win not a podium

considering as well

sprint win of course

sprint win

and then follow it up with a disqualification

thank you Ferrari in the main race

yeah the fact that there's not been

one singular 9 as well

I'm surprised in the sense of

like if you were to tell me before the season

but not surprised now knowing the season

that there hasn't been a high grade

because he hasn't had a podium

so of course Silverstone was closed

where he was chasing down Holkenberg

but then you were factoring in these things

like he's chasing down Holkenberg for this

it was a decent drive in Silverstone

when you compare it to Charles Leclerc

who hasn't had the most disastrous Silverstone

ever I feel like

he's just destined to never really

and Ferrari in the wet are

but yeah just

such a tough season

for Lewis Hamilton

I just can't believe what I'm looking at

when I look at his results

it's just been really

really quite

you look at the qualifying in particular

Hamilton of course with every record

under the sun when it comes to

goals and victories

and yeah it's been tough to watch

Hamilton hasn't been great in this ground effect

era we know this but this has got worse

than what was happening in Mercedes

where he was close with George Russell

beating him sometimes getting beaten by George other times

this was you know comprehensive

beating by Charles Leclerc

when you look at the head to heads and things like that

so I hope for Hamilton

he's back in 2026, Formula One is

better when Lewis Hamilton is performing

it's as simple as that

to watch Hamilton at the front

so fingers crossed the new regs

work for him

the fans

Esteban Ocon is in P14

for them with the best of nine

in China, Bahrain and Monaco with the worst

of three in Japan and Singapore

we will reflect on Ocon when we

put him in our order

P13

Esteban Ocon

with a 6.2 average grade

I gave him a 10 in China and

Monaco is his best and worst of three

in Japan

Esteban Ocon's season

again you look at the ones that are

lower in our

in our order the Bortolettos

the Ghazlis, the Lawsons

they've had topsy-turvy seasons

and Ocon is exactly the same

Ocon's season

started so brilliantly

China as I said

a 10 in Monaco as well

but then you look towards

the sort of second half of the season

it was where Oli Bearman was going on

an insane run of form

and Ocon just couldn't sort it out on Saturdays

there would be the occasional race where

he'd pull off a miracle

strategy which

props to him for making that work

you know he'd go pit on lap one and do

something insane on the hards

or whatever it might be

Esteban was pretty good in the races

for the majority of the season but he just couldn't put

himself in the position that he had to roll

the dice with a lot of things

after some poor Saturdays

overall

he finished three points behind Oli Bearman

in the championship

he probably won't look back on this season

particularly fondly

but he can bounce back

he's had a good enough performances this season

that it's not like

wow Esteban was so bad this year

but it just wasn't consistent from him

and we shall see

what he brings next year

13th

Esteban Ocon

with a 6.4

his best of course

10 in China and Monaco

and his worst was a 3

in Japan

he was

a driver that I expected

a new lease of life

after the bad time he had

towards the end of his Alpine stint

and he kind of showed that at the start

a 5th in China

a 7th in Monaco

and yeah he was scoring

a lot of points for Haas

while his teammate Bearman

was

maybe a bit more inconsistent

and still scoring points but

obviously not as many as his teammate

but then yeah the form dropped off

qualifying seems to have been really

as Achilles heel so many times Ocon

was qualifying

low down the order

you look at the head to head

14-10 in Bearman's favour

the sprint actually 4-2 as well

so qualifying was where Bearman

had the upper hand

in the race it was actually 12 all

but Ocon

just didn't have enough performances

throughout the year and of course

you expect him as the elder statement

and a race winner of course

to be beating Bearman

and he did not

so not the best season for Esteban Ocon

13th

and

Carlos Sainz

with a 6.4

average grade

that does feel low doesn't it

it really does the best of 10 in Baku

and Qatar and a worst of 4

in Australia and Spain

for Carlos

we now go to 12th position

12th

is Kimmy Antonelli

for me with a 6.4

he's actually

a grade of course

overall as Ocon but he has more 10s

which he got in Australia

Canada, Brazil

and then his worst was a 2 in Monaco

Austria and Belgium

what a mixed bag for

Kimmy Antonelli

you know I don't think there's many drivers

on this list

that have 3 10s

and then 3 2s

he really did have some

really really strong races

his debut where he got all the way onto the podium

Canada

he was absolutely superb

had a really great end

to the season as well

Brazil of course being a standout

but too many races where

he qualified poorly

and then

finished poorly as well

it would either be, oh my god Kimmy is really showing something

he's got a podium

or he's got a really solid result

or finished just behind George on the road

and then it felt like

maybe in a couple of races time

he'd be qualifying 15th

and finishing 12th or something

so yeah a really mixed

bag for Antonelli

and um

overall like

I think overall

he didn't show

insane hype that it's like oh my god

he's unbelievable

but I do think he showed

why Mercedes picked him because

you can see he's got a very high ceiling

and if he just becomes

a consistent driver he's of course still very young

he was thrown in

to Mercedes as a rookie

it's huge pressure replacing Lewis Hamilton

and he showed that

he's got what it takes

he now just needs to like fine tune it

he certainly does

my P12

Kimmy Antonelli

we're on a run of agreement right now

6.3 out of 10

average a best of 10 in Australia, Canada

and Brazil a worst of 2

in the Netherlands and Belgium

Kimmy Antonelli's

driver ratings average position

which I know he will lose sleep on

was essentially

you know

to not finish in the top 10 was lost

from the run from Austria

to the Netherlands

essentially with obviously Monaco

as well being a disappointment

you know if I look at Monaco he got 3

2 in Austria, a 5 in Silverstone

a 2 in Belgium, a 5 in Hungary

and a 2 in the Netherlands

that's you know we're getting into

the point 1s, the point 2s

to literally put you 3, 4, 5 places

up the order

and this is what has affected Antonelli

again not having that full

consistency over a year

to be able to

essentially score very solidly

throughout those 24 races

but for Kimmy

when you look at how he

crashed

in the practice of Monza

to now putting a season together like that

he has silenced

I think a lot of critics in some ways

the critics can still say

does he have a whole season in him

where he doesn't make

a handful of mistakes

that's what we're yet to see

with Newreggs I'm excited to see

just how adaptable he is as a driver

and it may well work in his favour

with the fact he's young

and got a lot of talent

that he can learn with everybody else

be learning an entirely new different car

in 2026 but overall

12th

kind of makes sense

but it's not as disappointing a season as perhaps

that may suggest

the fans

with a 6.4

out of 10

which is a big oof

12th from the fans

in Qatar

potentially a lot of rookie of the season

nominees out there

and yeah P12

that is crazy a best of 10

in Monaco and Netherlands and a worst of 0

in Australia

P11

my 11th place is Carlos Sainz

with a 6.5 overall

grade

a best of 10 in Baku, Las Vegas, Qatar

and a worst of 3 in Australia

and Austria

absolute madness

I'll be honest with you

absolute craziness

because the colours

that you see are a lot of points finishes

for Carlos

and it's weird because

you look at the first half of the season

he did score points but the thing was

Alex was scoring quite a lot more

so therefore his grade was naturally

going down ever so slightly

he then had a difficult run from Silverstone

to Monza

and again

after as well in Austin, Mexico

not being able to score big points

of course Austin he had a great sprint

Carlos

again like two podiums though

so he had some massive results

but sadly there were moments

where it just wasn't working out for him

he was getting bad luck in that Williams car

and

doesn't necessarily mean he's getting really low grades

but he's not able to get

the big grades that Alex Albon was getting

at the start of the season but overall

Carlos can be very happy with his first season

at Williams to score two podiums

he was absolutely thriving

at the end of the season with those results

and 11th feels harsh

but I'm not surprised to see him there

considering you take into account the whole season

and how great Alex was

in the first half

In 11th I have Carlos Sainz

with a 6.5

We've agreed from

21st to 11th

I'm actually seeing a note in this document

right now that says we disagree a lot

in the top 10, don't worry

So fine, we are not the same person

the entire way through, thank God

Yeah, thankfully

A best for Carlos was 10

of course in Baku, Vegas, Qatar

his worst was 2 in Australia

so people may be surprised

to see Carlos that low down

of course he was lower

in the fan grade

because he had an amazing end to the season

you know, he got

two podiums, he got three 10s

towards the end of the season

having what we said

was Carlos was

arguably the most disappointing driver

of the first half of the season

I don't think you can deny that

the hype

between, and you know

I'm looking at our mid season

driver

grades

and this is probably why

Carlos is this low

his average was a 5.9

we both gave him from the fans

and we gave him a 6

he was lower than Gasly

at this stage

in our

driver ratings championship

so it's been a tell of two hearts

of course at the end of the season

he went on this amazing points run

two podiums

grabbed some really big results

and as you said, he scored good points

at the start of the season

the problem for him was that Albin was scoring

fifth places for fun at the start of the year

which is why Carlos

is this

low

if you'd just covered the end of the season

I'm sure it'd be very high up on this list

but alas, it's over the whole season

you can only score 10s apart from one random 11 out of 10

that we gave to Holkenberg in Silverstone

but you can't score more than a 10

just because you've had an incredible podium

you can't be making up

for lost ground in other parts of the season

in 11th place for the fans

Nico

Holkenberg

with a 6.4

out of 10

10 in Spain and Silverstone

and a worst of no greater Monza or 3

in Singapore

okay, interesting

that is very very interesting

we've not uttered Nico's name

and I think for good reason

and you'll have noticed that 6.4

Holkenberg, Hadjar

and Sainz have all got the same grade

from the fans

in 11th, 12th, 13th

wow, very close indeed

right, so that's it for part 1

join us tomorrow

for part 2, the 10th

to 1st

and that's going to be a big one

where we actually disagree

we'll disagree so much, join us then

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