Part
bumper
A bumper is the part on the front or back of a car that helps protect it if it bumps into something.
Part
wheel trim
Wheel trims are covers that go on car wheels to make them look nicer and sometimes keep dirt away.
Part
wheel arch liners
Wheel arch liners are covers inside the wheel area that stop dirt and water from hurting the car.
Car
Peugeot 106
The Peugeot 106 is a small car made by a French company called Peugeot. It was made to be easy to drive in cities and is good on gas.
Term
MPV
An MPV is a type of car that can carry lots of people or stuff. It usually has seats that you can take out or move around.
Company
1320
1320 is a YouTube channel where people watch fast cars race in straight lines and see how they are changed to go faster.
Term
GoPro
GoPro is a small, tough camera that people use to record exciting videos, like from inside a car or on a flying drone.
Term
FPV drone
FPV drones let you see what the drone sees in real time, like you're flying inside it. This makes the videos look really cool and exciting.
Car
Jeep Wagoneer
The Jeep Wagoneer is an old-style SUV that many people like because it can drive on rough roads and lasts a long time. It was made a long time ago and is still popular with car fans.
Term
D (Drive) gear
In an automatic car, 'D' means the car will move forward and change gears by itself when you press the gas pedal.
Car
Honda Accord
The Honda Accord is a popular car that many people use because it doesn’t break down often and is easy to drive. It’s a good choice if you want a car that works well for daily trips and lasts a long time.
Car
Mercury Marquis
The Mercury Marquis is a big car made by Mercury, a part of Ford. It was made a long time ago and is known for being very strong and roomy inside.
Car
Chevrolet Astro
The Chevrolet Astro is a type of van made by Chevrolet that can carry people or stuff. It was made a while ago and is known for being strong and useful.
Car
Toyota Previa
The Toyota Previa is a family van that has a different engine setup than most vans, which helps it carry lots of people and stuff. It’s known for being reliable and roomy.
Concept
cheap car challenges
A cheap car challenge is when people buy cars that don't cost much money and try to do fun or difficult things with them to see how well they work.
Concept
super cars
Super cars are very fast and fancy cars that cost a lot of money and are made to go really quickly.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a popular sports car that many people like. It has its engine in the back and is often worth a lot of money, but you can sometimes find cheaper ones depending on how old or worn they are.
Term
safety inspections
Safety inspections are like car checkups that some places require to make sure cars are safe to drive.
Term
large displacement engines
Large displacement engines are car engines with bigger parts inside that help them make power more easily and last longer.
Term
turbocharged engines
Turbocharged engines have a special fan that pushes extra air into the engine to make it stronger.
Concept
rust
Rust is when metal on a car gets damaged and turns reddish-brown because of water and salt. It can make the car weaker and look bad.
Term
trade-in incentives
Some places give you money off or lower taxes when you give your old car to a dealer while buying a new one. This is called a trade-in incentive.
Term
beater
A beater is a car that's old and not very fancy, but it still works and gets you where you need to go.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The 1997 Chevrolet Corvette is a fast sports car. This one is special because it has blue leather seats and black paint, and it was made on a day when no other car was made exactly like it, so it's called 'one of one'.
Concept
collector car
A collector car is an old or special car that people keep because it's rare or valuable, not just to drive every day.
Car
Chrysler LeBaron
The Chrysler LeBaron is a type of car made by Chrysler in the 1980s. The 1982 version is old enough that some people think it might be special or collectible.
Term
blown head gasket
A blown head gasket is when a part inside the engine breaks and lets fluids mix that shouldn't. This can make the car run badly or even break the engine.
Concept
barn find
A barn find is when someone finds an old car that has been left alone for a long time, maybe in a barn or field. These cars might be covered or dirty but can be special because they haven't been changed much.
Car
Ford Fiesta
The Ford Fiesta is a small car made by Ford. The older ones from the 1990s might not be as strong on the roof as newer cars.
Car
Oldsmobile Toronado
The Oldsmobile Toronado is an old, stylish car that was special because it used front-wheel drive when most big cars didn’t. It had a strong engine and looked cool for its time.
Car
Lotus Carlton
The Lotus Carlton is a fast and powerful car that looks like a regular family car but can go really fast because it was made by a company that knows a lot about racing.
Car
Rolls-Royce Phantom
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a very fancy and expensive car that is made to be super comfortable and smooth. It’s often used by very wealthy people who want the best and most stylish car.
Car
Bentley Bentayga
The Bentley Bentayga is a big, fancy SUV that is very comfortable and can drive on rough roads, but it’s also very expensive and made for people who want a luxury car that can do a bit of everything.
Concept
Barrett-Jackson auction
Barrett-Jackson is a famous place where people buy and sell old and special cars, sometimes for a lot of money.
Car
Chevrolet Corvair
The Chevrolet Corvair is an old American car that had its engine in the back instead of the front. Some people like it because it's different and rare.
Car
BMW E30
The BMW 3 Series is a small, sporty car that’s fun to drive and feels very connected to the road. The older E30 model is famous because it’s easy to control and many people like to drive it with a stick shift.
Concept
25 year rule
In the US, cars have to be at least 25 years old before you can bring them in without following all the new rules about safety and pollution. This means older cars can be imported more easily.
Car
Land Rover Defenders
The Land Rover Defender is a tough and famous off-road car that many people like because it can go almost anywhere and lasts a long time.
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I'm your reporter.
And this is Smith & Sniff, a podcast in which two friends
talk about cars and many other things.
I'm recording this, wearing my running gear.
Oh.
And I've been out for a run this morning.
And the last time I went out for a run,
I found some car parts inadvertently.
I mentioned this in the Glaswegian live gig that we did.
Yes, you did.
I saw a car part this morning as well.
I ran past a tailgate this morning in a head.
There was some fly tipping, which makes me angry instantly.
And I'm sure it does others.
Surely all the rain we've been having,
we are in the most fertile under tray season of the year.
Oh, there's so much.
There's been freeze bead under trays, plastics everywhere.
What I did see the other day is on the outskirts of a trading
estate, there's often new roundabouts that have been put
in and planted.
And it's all looking very fresh and raw.
And all the signs are brand new.
Someone had misjudged or maybe their sat-nav didn't tell them
that there was a roundabout there.
So there was some skid marks coming up to the roundabout
and then a brand new sign that was just smashed completely down
then two huge grooves across the soil and then smashed the
other sign down on the other side of the roundabout.
So I think they'd gone onto it across it and then off it.
It must have been going quite quick.
But what I liked was the middle of the roundabout hadn't had
a chance to have any flowers or flower beds put there just
instead a huge collection of car parts that obviously been
removed from this car as it was going across the roundabout.
So we start off with one light, then we start off for the
bumper, then we have the other light, the grill, then we have
a wheel trim and then we have little grilllets and brackets,
just so much plastic under tray wheel arch liners.
Honestly, it almost happened within the space of one and a
half seconds.
Um, but anyway, I was out running and I found a tailgate
this morning.
I slowed down a little, but I was, I'm not going to lie,
Richard, I found this morning's run quite hard.
So I didn't, I didn't really go for it in terms of walking into
the hedge and lifting it out, but I'm going to say it was,
I'm going to say it's one of those Mazda three to threes
that's actually a fiesta, something like that or something
a bit more or maybe a Peugeot 106.
However, a couple of weeks ago when I went on the run,
I was just starting to shake my rust off first third of the
run, very cold and bracing it was.
And I noticed on the other side of the road as I was going
towards it, um, the seat of an MPV and I thought, hmm, that's
unusual.
It's just placed at the side of the road, just slightly into
the grass, not, not, not like thrown just placed.
And it's one of those removable MPV seats.
So quick release jobs.
I thought, that's a bit odd.
So as I got nearer to it, I just kind of ran past it.
Just like, no, maybe someone just took it out to like do
something and then got distracted with a phone call or so
and then drove away and then never put it back in the car.
I noticed it was dirty, but it might have been out there
for two days.
Then I carried on running and then there's a little like
nook in the hedge where you could walk in.
And then there's some discarded wet wipes, which weren't
white.
And as I put two and two together, call me roadside
Colombo.
But I, one more thing, yes, I think what happened here was
that somebody might have had an incident in an MPV and they
were so distraught or sickened.
They just removed the entire seat and placed it on the verge
and just drove away, never to return, it seems.
So they're now one seat down.
Their car was a seven-seater.
It's now a six-seater or whatever.
I don't know what that, the cost of a replacement seat would
be.
Obviously, then you've also got a fine one in the right
upholstery and stuff.
I said, yeah, one leather seat where the rest of a cloth
would be a bit weird.
But that's not some casually discard.
Is it?
You just feel like for a number of reasons, the utility of it
as well, going, could you give us all a lift to the kids
party?
No, not all of you because unfortunately, I shot myself
in the galaxy and I've had to abandon one of the seats in
a country lane.
So, no, there's a lot going on there.
There is a lot.
There's an awful lot to unpack and I didn't have much time
to unpack it.
Well, I did.
I had another 30 minutes of running to do, but I didn't
want it to plague my mind too badly.
So, I carried on.
But this, our listeners, we've said this before, our listeners
are very astute people.
I wonder what car parts they found on the hard shoulder or
if there's any interesting backstories.
I'm sure there is and we'd always welcome it.
I once stopped at, you know, one of those A road petrol
stations.
So they're not really services.
It is just a petrol station, but it's got a loo.
It's like a petrol station plus.
It has slightly more going on because they appreciate that
it's on a major trunk road.
Have they got a cabinet with some flaccid sausage rolls in?
Oh, of course.
Yeah, okay.
And they, they're often a little bit depressing somehow.
They are.
They've seen, many of them seem to have seen better days
somehow.
They're always tired, I think.
Yeah, they're always tired.
Yeah, what is going on?
You know, sort of motorway service areas are a mixed bag,
but some of them are very sparkly and nice and some of them
are not so much, but at least you get a range.
Whereas I would say A road petrol station plus is
inevitably tired and this one was no exception.
I'd only stopped to use the loo.
So I parked in a space and not at the pumps.
And as I got back in the car, I looked across and in the
undergrowth, sort of at the back of this petrol station,
there was just a lone car seat.
And it was quite nicely lit by a left post because this was
at night and I took a picture of it.
But then I was, it was bugging me when it was as I saw,
I had to, I drove not the most natural route out of the
petrol station so I could drive past the seats and have a look.
But it looked to me like it was from a Ford's possibly an
original car.
Was it quite circular?
Yes.
Had that very round.
Everything was very round.
It seemed more like a seat, you know, a trad car seat,
not a removable seat from an MPV.
And that is raising a lot of questions.
Yes, quite fiddly to remove a car seat and you got to really
want to do it.
It's not a quick job.
Exactly.
Yeah, for obvious reasons.
So they are quite well secured.
So it is weird.
All I could think because it played on my mind as I drove
the rest of the way home.
That perhaps it was like a lorry, a scrap lorry.
Yes, but like how did the seat escape from the car?
Because either the car was, you know, been sort of cruelly
high abbed on top of some other cars, but they're still
mostly intact.
The seat is safely contained inside and bolted in,
you would think.
Yes.
So, but was it just one of those trucks where they'd like
maybe it was a truck of car seats because they're off the
recycling.
I don't know if that's what happens.
But it's perplexing.
Unless, unless it was in the midst of a crime, a car was
being stripped for parts and they got disturbed by a car
turning into a car park or a CCTV camera or something.
And they only made off with three quarters of the interior.
They left one of the seats behind because they just didn't
have time to load it into their van.
I'm just thinking aloud, Rich.
It was also because it was quite late and it's dark and
there's just something sort of haunting and lonely about a
single car seat poking out of some undergrowth.
Well, especially if it's got a lot of sun pat wiped on it,
which I think was the one with the MPV seat that I saw.
But this reminded me of, I was watching some videos on
YouTube with my lad, Wesson, last night.
And I got served up 1320 video.
There is a, there's a, it's a channel which you've probably
heard of 1320.
I think they do a lot of drag race stuff and modified car
stuff.
And they were attending this very odd ceremony that takes
place in Alaska every, where every 4th of July, a small,
a small village or town in Alaska where they, it's become
a strange tradition of throwing cars off cliffs.
Yes.
And it makes for very cool drone footage, FPV drone footage
and GoPro in car footage.
But it, and I started watching it and it was entertaining
for a while.
But then you realized, there were several things I realized
and this is when you were talking about seats removed
from cars.
There were some cars which are totally complete that were
being driven.
You basically jam the throttle down and you ratchet strap
the steering wheel in a set position and you put it in D
and just, it just drives off the cliff and there's a lip
jump at the end and sometimes it hits it and sometimes it
doesn't.
Did they not introduce a system where there was, they sort
of put like a pipe, like a rail.
There is a rail.
And then they, they, I mean, it's all still very Heath
Robinson, the kind of like ratchet strap.
Yeah.
It is quite Heath Robinson, which is why very Heath
Robinson, the guy that organizes this event, who I
think is like the village mayor, the town mayor, he
decided to throw his own Jeep Wagoneer off like a
classic Wagoneer, which he apparently he'd had for
many years and many years and it was quite tired.
But I looked at it, I pause the video a few times and
I called bullshit on that.
I was like, that's too good to throw off a cliff and
it's still running and drive.
So I was a bit cross about that.
Anyway, just to make it even worse is the car veered off
as it was in D and it hit probably the most mature
tree and square up.
So it never actually made it over the edge.
It just, so all the crowd down below, this is a huge
crowd assembling, watching it down the bottom where
there's a, at the bottom of the ravine where there's
a river.
Um, they never got to see the probably the nicest car
that shouldn't have ever made it off.
But some of the cars did amazing jumps and the on
board cameras, which were inside made you realize
there was like a Honda of some sort.
It might have been an accord or a pilot.
Was it a pilot?
Um, it went down this hot.
It jumped this entire ravine and then smashed its
way down to the bottom.
The airbags went off.
Okay.
Oh, all of the seats and nearly all of the dashboard
remained exactly the same, including the footwells and
it was 300 feet.
This is it made me realize how good cars are because
Western was like, you could have survived that.
But yeah, you'd be badly injured, but you, I think
you'd survive that.
And that is remarkable for a steel box to be able to
be thrown 300 feet and you just go, right.
Yeah, I'm not dead.
That's quite remarkable.
I was, and I felt, I started to feel sorry for the cars
and there were a couple of, there was a Mercury Marquis
with a V8 in it.
There was a, a FOA team van.
There was a Chevy Astro, which got jumped off.
Okay.
And that was probably the best one.
It did such a big jump that it almost pancake itself
at the bottom.
It missed all the sides of the ravine, which a lot of
them didn't and landed flat on the bottom.
I'm sure I've seen one where a Previa goes over and
fares quite well.
Yeah.
And being Mark I Prev, obviously I was rooting for it.
One of the couple of them, the engines, one of some of
them, the engines while still running, obviously get
pulled out of the car on the, on the way on the tumble
down.
So the engine is now running on its own in the air,
which is very ghostly.
Do you find sometimes watching these videos that I, I'm
struggling to work out the perspective and the distance
that the crowd is standing away from the, the landing
zone very much because sometimes I know there's a
body of water, isn't I think, but there's a body of water
which is clearly getting very polluted because all these
cars have got fuel and brake fluid and blah and blah.
Yeah, but then it seems like some of the cars miss the
body of water and they're just going through the trees.
And it's just, there's always that faint sense of is one
of those cars going to land perfectly on its wheels, which
are still spinning and then just keep driving towards
the crowd.
It feels like it could happen, but I suspect actually
it's, it's, it's the perspective is misleading on
the cameras on the shots that they use.
I don't know.
I'd love to go there.
I was working on something a while ago where we were
hoping to go there when it was vaguely suggested, but
of course, because it very specifically happens on the
4th of July.
Yes.
It didn't, the timing didn't line up.
It's hard to know, like it, because I've watched some of
it where you sort of see the crowd whooping in it.
I suddenly go, as an outsider, would this suddenly the
atmosphere seem quite threatening or is it very
jolly?
I can't quite tell.
I think it's really jolly and it's obviously very
patriotic and all that stuff, but the sort of sensible
reuse, slight eco-warrior within me says, says this.
I don't know.
Look, in a country where you, some people can't afford to
repair their arm if they break their arm.
Why are you throwing still running driving cars off
cliffs?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Well, those cars are all, a lot of them must be worth
something.
We've had a few American listeners write into us to
say, can't believe how cheap cars are in the UK.
Well, I thought cars were cheap in America, but you've
said before that the prices have gone up and like you
can't buy a running car for 500 quid anymore, a 500
dollars anymore, which I don't know when that shifted.
But I think it was always the case and people did explain
to us of those various reasons why, but when we started
making the US version of Top Gear with Tanner Adam
and Rutledge, it was immediately obvious that you
couldn't do the same cheap car challenges, not with
those kind of headline, you can buy a car for 100 quid
sorts of things that were at that point, the UK Top Gear
was still doing and things have changed here as well
because we bought super cars for less than 10 grand,
which you simply couldn't do.
You did.
That was lunacy.
Yeah, but you could still get, you know, we did cheap
Porsches and they were all under, I forget what the
ceiling was, but you know, they were sort of like
1500 quid and there were many 911s under 10 grand then
weren't there?
Yes, you could probably still, I mean, we didn't because
I think it was, there was more comedy value in the
front engine stuff because it's been less cared for cause
it is less inherently valuable and or considered to be
worth something secondhand, but it was still, it's still
notable how just that sort of madly throw away, oh, I'll take
a punt on a 200 quid car that you could do here and you still
sort of just about can is simply not a thing in the US,
which I was surprised about cause so many cars and so many
things just lying around in yards in the, in the, in the
Midwest just thought you could, could you not just buy stuff
nice and cheap?
Well, yeah, it's weird.
This is watching these Alaskan cars being thrown off
cliffs. There is a huge amount of entertainment to it for a
short time, but then it starts to become a bit like, oh, could
we have saved that one?
Oh, there was a limo which actually didn't look that bad
at all.
I'm not a big fan of limousines, but and it was never going
to do a very good jump off the cliff, but the thing I ended
up rooting for was the fact that when they set them in D
and they charge off to the end of their lives, some of them
are quite, quite peppy and some of them managed to shift
into like several gears before they hit the jump.
So that means they're going some one of the people carriers
I think got into third and even if a couple of the, the
commentators like, oh, it's shifted again.
In other words, it's like, I'm going to do this and I'm going
to show you how well I'm going to do this and it was quite
impressive.
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I just found some of the emails from people in the US
trying to sort of put some perspective on why second hand
cars seem to hold their value a lot better, particularly
the sort of lower end of the market in the US.
Listener called Martin has given us some very useful
bullet points on this.
Oh, he said there are several reasons in no particular
order 32 states don't even bother with safety inspections
as a result cars don't take that sharp depreciation hit just
for daring to be a bit deadly.
Low revving large displacement displacement engines tend to
outlive their turbocharged high revving small displacement
counterparts.
In addition, longer distances result in much less engine
killing short distance driving.
Right.
Higher median and average wages driving at prices for
everything.
A ginormous geographic region called the south where rust
due to bad weather and salt is not an issue and cars remain
in a usable state for longer.
A ginormous geographic region called the north where old
cars from the south go to die.
Many states offer incentives for tradings for example in
Texas you have to pay 6.25% tax of a car's current value
regardless of purchase price when you register in your
name to obtain a title or deduct the trading value from
the taxable amount.
But you can't do that if you sell your car privately dealers
then scrap these old beaters for liability reasons and this
practically killed the private seller market in many places.
So it is a supply and demand thing but that's really sad
the case.
I call rich is all in stepping and change that in Texas.
He has the power to do that another listener called rich
says that the cash for clunkers program devastated the
country's supply of functional if unpopular land barges in
the space of three to four years used car prices shot up as
a result.
He also points out that they don't get the type of cars in
the U.S. that should be cheap in the future.
We mentioned like courses and Yaris is this is and stuff
like that but Americans he points out when offered those
cars tend to pass on them in favor of pickups and SUV's
right by the time those huge things are worse anything less
than two thousand dollars.
They're basically non-functional rich also points out this is
the land of one of one which we've mentioned before.
Have we it's a 97 Corvette one of one is one of one because
it's got blue leather seats but with black paintwork and it
was built on a Tuesday in March and that makes well no other
cars were built like that on that Tuesday in March says one
of one.
But rich points out that because of the land of one of one any
car more than 15 years old is suddenly a collector car.
The average American has so much more space particularly garage
and driveway space that it's easy to park your horrible 82
Chrysler Lybarum with the rare blue for the blown head gasket
and not think about it.
So that's another point is I guess the sort of the pool is
shallower in some ways because people are able to just sit on
things that they should just get rid of because yes so that's
a base to do so.
So in that's like our UK farmer mindset in many ways or
traditional farmer where it was like rather than get rid of
it I'll just park it because I might come back to it another
day.
And so you end up with just graveyard of cars.
Funny enough I was on a train the other day that's right back
from I went from Glasgow and our live show went down to London
and that's a long training journey but very good seat table
table to myself for most of the journey in a nice quiet
carriage.
So I'm just achieved the sort of as Zen state of calm didn't do
any work.
I was going to do work and I was not doing work.
I'm just gonna did you just do staring cast.
Yeah.
And I just did a lot of staring.
I love where actually I was a bit worried that people going
by or whatever would think that I was incredibly drunk or high
or a simpleton because I was just staring and it was lovely
but what I noticed is a lot and you see this regularly from
trains I think I seeing a lot of cars some under tarp all in
some just sort of sinking into the dirt yeah in yards on farms
sometimes at the end of people's gardens equestrian cordon doth
fields I see a lot of dead dead 4x4 yes yeah yes it's true isn't
you get a feel with some horse jumps in it and then for no
apparent reason there's just a micro sinking into the ground
at one end yeah who left that there is it is it for the horses
to try and jump they forced them to jump the micro I don't think
you'd want a horse to jump a car which is no high and they
might catch their foot on their shins yeah because those those
horse jump rails are designed to fall off if the horse clobbers
them aren't they yes that's right roof of a of a 90s fiesta
won't come off and it gets kicked by a flying horse
so I don't think it's that but I'm thinking on the train I was
like I just I feel like you know that you get sort of is a
cliche like cartoons and things the dog pound van that goes
around and gathers up stray dogs yeah I just want to get the
stray car transporter and I'm just going to drive following
the route of a railway line probably for rich pickings and
just gather up all these abandoned cars and see if I started
I had a lot of staring time I started thinking is there a TV
format in this it's sort of like a really low version of sort
of Matt Armstrong meets wheeler dealers yeah but you gather up
cars that have been seemingly been abandoned and go can I get
this going and if I can and if it's roadworthy and it's not
too rotten which is obviously a big ask but if those things
prove to be true that it's actually quite solid and you
can get it running again and then you give it to somebody
really needs a car absolutely that is absolutely the case
it's a bit like a vice grip garage Derek on vice grip garage
you're one of the earlier and most successful quite simple
but effective car channels he does a lot that he you know he
flies to the he flies or gets a lift to a car for sale in the
middle of nowhere agrees to buy an unseen and then just takes
his tool bag with them and says I'm going to try and be home
within the next three days this car hasn't run for 50 years
it's really cool yeah I think we should call this pin drop
carplop I've just decided so as soon as you the good thing
about the modern world is if you see a car like that in a
location instead of having to write down nearby road names
and describe them to friends what you do is you obviously do
a pin drop on your phone as quickly as you can and then
you say then you label that pin drop I don't know shagged metro
and then you share it with people like me who get off on it
and then yeah and then you go and then I say oh yeah is that
worth investigating is it going to be on a farm where they
do illegal dog fighting and I'll get attacked if I go and see
it what's going to happen but really what you're what you're
describing is the genesis of the barn fund the modern day
for so yes yes it's the CSI tarp all and we haven't talked
about that rich on this cast for for we haven't talked about
CSI top for at least a year maybe two years this this is
definitely sort of within it is a part of CSI tarp all in
completely which I did do I didn't do pin drops for cars
because I didn't see anything that was so interesting
does it you know like oh my god was that an ultra bill
toronado or something but I did do a couple of pin drops just
on interesting buildings you know you're on a obviously on
an unfamiliar train line yeah and you see the last hour at
one point I was like why is it out like modern kind of tower
and it looked a bit sort of like it could be a prison watch
tower but it was too tall so it's like do they drop things
inside it for research purposes for yes could be all those
lift testing towers yeah oh yeah oh lift testing yeah there's
a lift testing tower in Northampton show I'm sure it is
Oh maybe it was that because this was coming through would
we have skirted Northampton show we might have done I can't
remember this was now I did a pin drop it's still in my phone
though you've reminded me I need to look it up it's great
you were too busy being a stoned drunk simpleton on the
train that was a glassy high it was lovely it was that's a
four getting on for a five hour train journey and when we
pulled into Euston I was actually quite annoyed I was thinking
I could have done another hour of that easy can we do one one
day I'd love to do one with you because I I'm I've got a bit
of envy thinking about it because I know but then we might
have spoken to each other and that would have spoiled the
sort of rapture state of staring out the window we've had to
sit in separate bits of the carriage agreeing perhaps every
couple of hours to meet in the middle and have a chat or do
we write down the things that we've seen so we can compare
and so I write you write down I don't know Triumph Dolomite
under Tarpaulin next to sad looking ponies and then I say
oh yes I've seen a naked guy riding a moped around a garden
this is to my mind that the part of what makes a journey like
that your what enables you to slip into that state is it's
very crucial you are on your own if you with somebody else
it doesn't work the same way.
No no because you've got to interact and I love train
journeys on my own but they have to be outside of rush hours.
Oh yeah and you have to have a seat that there's my quietness
of the train is important.
Yeah very much so and it does allow it for a creative person
which controversially I do consider myself to be one I used
that time as creative juice recharging it's really good for
that. That sounds great I'm a bit jealous because I've got a
very long car journey to do this afternoon down to Devon
for another West Country based barn find but I wish that I was
going on the train although trying to get my entire toolkit
and clothes and everything onto the train would just be a bit
of a bastard.
I think some train companies are a bit squeamish about a man
carrying a can of fuel as well are they not?
Oh yeah I'd be bringing 10 litres of petrol with me too.
Yeah I forgot about that and a huge car battery.
It might be a way to get a table to yourself I don't know.
Yeah yeah I might do it.
I'd be wearing a fleece so I'd look like a loner a 40 year old
virgin but don't well yeah it's funny that you mentioned an
Oldsmobile Torinado.
I stood next to one of those airport transfer cars which has
10 doors.
Oh yeah the museum that I was frequenting on the Isle of Man
when I got stuck on the Isle of Man and they had they have a
small collection of airport transfer cars as well as really
amazing coach built limos and if you're into those sorts of
niches like I am they're quite impressive but yeah the Olds
was obviously front wheel drive and they just put this massive
back on it it was so ridiculously large and this is that
interim between using a minibus when American manufacturers
went well we'll just use a car that we've already got on the
production line and we'll just add doors that seems like a good
idea and they had a checker cab with 10 doors or 8 doors it
was quite amazing but what I've forgotten to say in the last
podcast and I did say it in live in Glasgow was that I've
actually left a car on the Isle of Man so I've the only way I
could get off the Isle of Man that week because of the storms
the four ferry cancellations later I realized I was at
Defcon one I've got to get back to London to do a corporate
event that I was booked for so I did what what I had to do and
that was I left my Honda Insight on the Isle of Man in the
trusted hands of the Museum and the Museum guys they said oh
don't worry we'll look after it for you no rush the guy the
curator of the Museum chap Dennis he was like I've got my
own it anyway and I anyway I said look I'm not selling it I'm
gonna come back and get it 24 hours later I get an email with
a picture they've cleaned it and put it in the actual Museum
because they felt sorry for it being outside of the wind and
rain so there you go cheap storage guys what you need to do
is is is not be able to get home from the Isle of Man and
then just get your car in the Museum easy done is end
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but the owner of the museum would like to buy your
insights and you have no current plan to be able to get
your insight back no I don't can we not foresee a situation
in a couple of months time where you say oh sod it and just
sell him the insights because it's the easiest thing to do
I think he's he's banking on that
I think he's banking on the fact that he knows that I'm
quite a disorganized individual yeah we're almost in a
hostage situation really we are in a hostage he's got it
he's a hybrid hostage he's he's he's set up on the hybrid
hostage on the hybrid host the situation he's he said he'd
been looking for one for the museum for a while so he got
his eye on it and he loved the fact it was high mileage
etc etc but I suddenly realized looking at his taste in some
of the corners of this museum with these lovely coach built
herces and limos and the silly airport transfer cars he's
got a penchant for limos rich didn't see a senator in the
museum just saying oh no no so he's got limousines and he's
got a lotus Carlton which there is DNA there right but doesn't
have a senator limousine so it begs the question do I make the
call to Dennis Cunningham and say oh I'm coming to get my
insight I will trade you key for key a longer wheel but an
extended wheelbase Eagle Quest limousine well I mean yeah
could summer out there could summer out there on the island
summer we still have to go get it back though don't we this
is the thing but then we go on a little holiday we go on a
little Smith and sniff little long weekend or something we can
maybe video it we'll go and get the eagle fly over and drive
the eagle back the eagle can be on a ferry on the Brian be
amazing do you have to you'd have to tell the ferry that it
wasn't a normal car wouldn't you because well you could I'd
look at how long it is and if it's overall length is about
the same as I don't know one of the largest cars on sale in
Britain right now like a Rolls Phantom or I don't know an
extended wheelbase Bentayga or something you could just go
that's just a large car because it's still got four doors
it's not like it's a six door I suppose yes so it depends if
you're just going to be sure to with the the steam packets
who are the the ferry company on the island man I don't want
to get into beef with the ferry company because they are the
only ferry company in and out of the island man so yes that
well I could see why that be a nuisance but I was more
thinking also about just grounding out on the ramp our
break over angle is going to be suboptimal for some ferries
that is true although we do have the ground clearance on
the the eagle it is quite quite good it doesn't drag its
gut really just you have the exhaust repaired so it's no
longer partly made of beer cans and then crush it yes the lip
getting into a ferry would be a real nuisance but we could
have a different exhaust system made the cross section of a
crimped oval all the way from front to back yes or would you
like a crimped oval I've seen it's sort of slightly homemade
extreme off-roading cars where the exhaust pops out of the
bonnet and runs over the roof I've seen that as well it looks
terrible doesn't it it looks terrible I know always go oh
that's just just don't feel like you could accidentally touch
it and as we know exhaust leave skin on it very hot yeah well
it would leave a lot of skin on it it would so I just while
I was just hastily rummaging in the email folder to find some
of those messages about why used cars might be more expensive
in the U.S. and thank you to everyone who sent those
suggestions in about yeah that's really good eight months ago
really good there was oh God of God I'm bloody lost it now I
just had one as well which was from a listener who said that
some that cars used to be a lot cheaper second hand cars this
is I thought they did us from a listener called Aaron who
says another Euro spec American here we very much used to
have cheap cars here some of them stupidly cheap but mostly
in the late 80s and early 90s was it that long ago to pre
internet yeah so in in 1987 I bought a 1981 Chevy Chevette
that needed some welding work for twenty five dollars oh wow
hang on seven years old it's a six year old car but it needs
some of those Chevy Chevets were famously rotty weren't they
and say it needs some welding work Aaron says he got it done
for free at the local tech school usual garbage agricultural
American spec but it did have a current inspection slash MOT
because I lived in one of the few states that actually
required that and still does my brothers and I used to make
pretty good money buying cars like this getting the mildly
road legal and then flipping them but we never bought anything
over five hundred dollars and I think the most we ever sold
one of them for was fifteen hundred the end of that started
in the late nineties when Barrett Jackson auction started
to become popular and that guy with the puke green Corvair
was convinced that it was one of one because of that ridiculously
horrible paint job and it was suddenly worth thirty thousand
dollars even though it hadn't been that color for thirty five
years they had no flaws the engine had been dead for twenty
five years and you can't get parts anymore another thing
to understand is about ninety percent of American car owners
don't maintain their cars at all no I states that actually
require an inspection yearly is where you can find a better
maintained ones but hang on at the same time Americans
change their oil every four hundred miles or so it seems
and they're constantly rotating their tires sometimes while
driving I just I don't suppose that's maybe that's if you buy
into that I don't understand the why wouldn't you have some
sort of mandatory inspection especially in a in a country
where it's quite litigious because that's infringement of
your personal liberties and as we know the American experience
is defined by the perception of freedom well no but and I
don't want to alienate our fantastic American because we've
got a legion of them and and we we do want to come and see you
in the not too distant future guys because we very much
enjoy getting your correspondence and and even the very
dedicated ones that buy our merch and pay to have it shipped
out which is just so sweet sweet sweet guys just so I was
actually going to change the subject there because I was
looking in the email thing I found this email that I meant
to read out ages ago well I mean by our standards only about
a month ago it's from a listener called Gary that's very
recent upon something we were talking about the etiquette
of driver to driver acknowledgement and okay he he says
the frantic four finger flap the subtle palm lift or the I'm
not angry just disappointed not this reminded me of a gentleman
I worked with in the late 80s at the time I was a sous chef
in a properly posh Cheshire hotel the junior manager was a
chap called Simon Simon was to use the technical term a grade
a PSB toff I don't know what PSB stands for PSB no probably
something border school border I don't know a public school
border public school border could be couldn't it PSB PSB for me
it's just pet shop boys and I'm sure it's not that in this
context anyway printed circuit board circuit board no that's
not good so Gary goes on to say Simon was to use a technical
term a grade a PSB toff but he had a quick wit and more
importantly a dark blue e30 325 I yes manual obviously it was
the kind of car that made you feel like a stockbroker even
if you were just commuting to a shift where you were one up
from the doorman one of one Simon took me out to stretch the
beamers legs along the Cheshire B roads he was driving with
that specific brand of 1980s confidence that suggests he
believed the car was literally incapable of crashing
suddenly a boxy Volvo the natural predator of the e30 lumbered
out of a side junction without so much as a glance oh no
Simon stood on the anchors the Bosch ABS did its funky chicken
dance and we avoided a collision by the thickness of a pack of
marble lights as all crawled past the Volvo the driver looking
suitably pathetic Simon reached into the door bin and produced
a table tennis bat it has been meticulously modified painted
matt black with a piece of chalk dangling from the handle
it was the ultimate analog interface no he raised it to
the window in the passenger seat all I could see written in
neat white chalk capitals on the back of the paddle was the
word sorry I was flawed Simon I said that is genius pure class
although strictly speaking why you apologizing to him he was
clearly the moron in this scenario Simon didn't say a word
he just gave me a knowing PSB tough smirk and flipped the
bat over on the reverse so this was the side shown to the
Volvo driver I guess in even larger chalk lettering was one
word wanker I realized that in 2026 this was likely resulted
in a roadside tribunal or a viral TikTok but in 1980s Cheshire
it was the height of sophisticated feedback I almost
regards Gary I felt like I need a chalkboard table tennis
bat inspired brilliant and it was it it lives permanently in
the glove box with a piece of chalk attached to end the door
bin by the sounds of the door fast access so good that is so
so good that is real 80s road rage communication it's just
but it's something quite sort of elegant about that I like
it I like it as a test to think now I'm pretty sure though
that we had a similar message from another listener did we
read this out who was on their way to a festival with us with
the sign making equipment and they used the long journey to
to make signs to other motions but of course can't find that
because I'm an idiot but anyway thank you to Gary and and
the other senses car car to car messaging systems I love all
that we still want to get a LED scrolling screen for the for
the Eagle Quest yes that's really good enjoyed that and I'm
enjoying more and more the the cheap the reasons for the
non cheapness of American automobiles yeah these are all
good reasons and they do sort of check out don't know it's
another listener of the email I've just closed and can't
find it again did point out that from a UK point of view that
because we're right hand drive but surrounded by left hand
drive countries it may devalue our cars because you can't sell
them to a wider market right if you are buying or selling say
a delta integrale you know that it's going to be left hand
drive so it's sort of like well if someone from Germany wants
to make you an offer that's cool and they want to re-register
it and knock yourself out it's some it levels that playing
field I suppose a little bit yeah but if you're selling a
right hand drive I was gonna say Sierra Cosworth but it's
okay because they were squifty bajillion dollars in the UK
anyway so Australia yeah yeah but you can see it in you know
how like the 25 year rule in the US and the Americans are
quite interested in old Land Rover Defenders yeah and it has
had a significant effect on the price of good defenders over
25 years old and the ads quite explicitly often say eligible
to be exported to the US because they know there are there
are traders and private punters over there who are actively
looking to grab a car here and ship it over to the US because
defender prices in the US are absolutely fucking crackers
I mean these people not realize those cars are shit it's it's
so crazy particularly you know they did for a limited time
they did a V8 Defender soft top yes for the US the coveted
NAS spec NAS was it pre which is it pre Defender badging was
it still a county then almost no it was 90s so okay became the
defender in 1990 and it was okay to that but it was it was a
short-lived thing because then I think it fell foul of regs
it was developed under the give the internal codename Project
Norman I think after Stormy Norman Schwartzkoff the American
general who came to prominence in the Gulf War and they they
weren't sold there for very long so they weren't that many of
them exported and they go for well last I looked they were
sort of approaching $100,000 and it's just like everybody
come on yeah say this is a defender owner Defenders are
shit that loveable but they're shit like if you've never
driven one be careful what you're getting into here
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I actually when I was on my run looking for car parts of
sporting I got ever taken by a 2015 plate Defender and I
and it suddenly dawned on me it's like wow yeah it's been
out of production now for 11 years because 2015 was the
final final year wasn't it yours yours is a 2015 well no
because that's the glory of it that mine because mine's one
of the final ones and mine was December 2015 and it has that
special end of days badge on it that says 1948 to 2015 that
they'd already sort of ordered from a supplier when they go
right that's it Defender Defender production will end in
December 2015 but such was demand they let it roll on into
into 2016 so my Defender has a factually inaccurate badge on
it that's so that's so Land Rover it's it is so beautifully
Land Rover thing to do and so yeah it is in fact where are we
now I I think was it Jan or February 2016 that I went to
the factory as part of the so many to watch the last one come
off the line and I think it's it is almost exactly now 10
years since the last one was made but it should have been
slightly more than 10 years at the Glaswegian live show I
wore charity shop clothes and lots of people said I potentially
look like a a roles shadow to owner from the waist down
well they reminded me the other day I watched I watched Batman
begins and it's just such a good film such a good film from
the music score to bail to to Oldman yeah but I would have
been great if the follow-up film had been called Batman ceases
what because there's something funny about Batman Batman begins
it's just like does it you know what Batman begins Batman
thrives a little then Batman Batman ceases yes cease but it's
a cease is a sort of in the same spectrum as begins a slightly
slightly odd words for about cease Batman cease comma Batman
yes exclamation mark cease ye Batman if you go to go for
twattery I've just found a photo of the last defender coming
off the production line 29th of January 2016 so that the
anniversary is just past oh wow so go there we go for the last
defender so I doff my Jerry McGoverns in this picture wearing
quite a loose suit is he smiling though and he's he's he's
forcing a smile I would say okay okay what ever happened to
that guy is he listening to Michael McDonald on a cross trainer
in a very glassy fronted grand design's house I saw something
the other day about Michael McDonald's which claimed that
he was or is quite a heavy smoker and this was preventing him
from hitting high notes well yeah because he's cooking his
lungs well yeah I mean it's like it's that's no surprise but
I don't mean like I didn't I wouldn't have had Michael McDonald
down as a heavy smoker not of cigarettes cigars thin cigars
that's what they meant yeah he would have been the pebbled
beach spec cigar smoking guy because he looks like he with
the hair slipped back a little he's got quite he's got lion-esque
hair we did have he's a bit of a man lion isn't he yeah I mean
him and we've said it before him and Dave Richards have never
been seen in the same room no have they or Kenny Rogers or
there's another one in there they're like like the lion-headed
assemble what's his flap out of the Bee Gees oh the only one
left alive Barry yes Barry yes Barry yeah did you know there's
a statue of the Bee Gees on the Isle of Man I was vaguely
aware of this yes because they they were born there or they
moved there from Manchester I can't remember which I think
they moved there when they were young and then they and then
they moved to Australia oh that's right but there's a picture
a bronze statue of the three of them like walking towards the
seafront I was look it was it was dawn and I was running and
I was avoiding high winds and seaweed being flung over the
seawall but I did see Barry Morris and Robin one of them had
a jacket on his shoulder I think is impressive those statues
that they they don't really look like people like that famous
one of Ronaldo oh yeah did it they look like fun fair air
brushings of themselves exactly yes yes in that world I didn't
see their faces I saw the backs of their heads but they had
flared trousers on and it was very much the the era that you
remember from you know the Saturday Night Fever later
seventies when they hit their highest high I would say
um that was it was really cool it was really cool to see but
um anyway the Batman begins it reminds me there's that there's
the League of Shadows in Batman begins with Liam Neeson you
know where Bruce Wayne obviously has lost his tragically
lost his mum and dad at an early age and he's trying to find
himself and understand what this is all about and he's got
loads of money but he has no purpose so he decides to
pretty much climb a mountain and just fight with monks for a
couple of years um but then realizes that he's in the wrong
place because the League of Shadows ultimately just want
to like burn cities down and punish humans for being greedy
um so he he he escapes all that but the League of Shadows
come back and get him don't they spoiler alert they end up
burning down Wayne Towers but um the it made me realize that
the League of Shadows sounds like a really good car club um
which would which would obviously just be slightly seedy
Rolls Royces it could sound like a drift like a drift
movement um it's something JDM but it's more probably
disgraced entertainer Rolls Royce era do we not think the
League of Shadows yeah I think so yeah uh so they have the
ability to cover up naughtiness um but they still drive around
in a butterscotch shewed Cornish um and and I and then I I
watched the other night I think you've seen it I watched a
couple of episodes of Black Rabbit oh yes and um the chat
with the receding hairline in it Jude Law he drives a he he
drives um a series three Jag XJ doesn't he yes he does yeah
and I'm pretty sure it's almost the same color series three
Jag as in Snatch that Vinnie Jones drives and uh it it
possibly is yes and I'm pretty sure that's also the same color
s uh XJ series three in um 51st state is it off of Robert
Carlisle and um yes or who's the other guy who's the other
actor in 51st state Samuel L. Jackson I don't you know what
I'm not even sure I've seen I don't know if I've seen but you
need to because you need to watch all films with series three
Jaguars it Rich well I don't know I mean I feel like there's a
there's a gap in my knowledge now but this is the thing I I love
the way it's shot in Black Rabbit and and someone's obviously
chosen that car and I'm sure that it's the same color same
model in all of those things it's like are we about to see the
series three XJ if you can find one that has hasn't dissolved
um becoming more valuable than something like an XJS maybe
it's the next valuable Jag for a certain generation I yeah I
think so I mean I think I could see that happening it's just
because also the you know the pack's thinned out a bit hasn't
so somewhat probably probably helps a little bit in terms of
their value because good ones are increasingly sought after
they are have you you haven't watched all of Black Rabbit
no I've only seen three episodes so don't tell me what happens
it's just it's quite interesting because later on this this is
not really a spoiler alert but later on as things are getting a
little bit more ragged one of the things Jude Law's character
admits is that the Jag the Jag isn't very reliable in there he
just bought it for the look but actually it's just another
thing that's causing him stress in his life oh it's fine you
never actually see it break down but I think it's just okay it's
quite because I was thinking oh yeah it's all well and good
casting was this cool guy about sound yeah and look he's just
effortlessly got this lovely old Jag and but we know the reality
might be a little bit more hassle and well it's also in New
York isn't it he's in he's in when he's doing a lot of low
speed he's doing a lot of heavy traffic work which is probably
not great for it no but breathing manhole covers and things
yes you know so yeah but it's it is good car casting because it
does you know it's interesting and cool but then this guy
it delighted me in a way that he admits that it's also
hassle and not worth as much as it looks because it's troublesome
there are a couple of shots where you see it driving and it's
obviously only just been switched on oh really so yeah it's
one of these things that always it always bothers me it's years
ago with Clarkson and I worked on a on a I think it's called
Clarkson on TV it was just one of those TV clip show type
things that inexplicably Jeremy was asked to do and we did a
whole bit about that which was possibly a bit niche but cars
when it's sort of you know they'll pull up to somewhere the
carrots pull up and go oh well we're finally here it's a long
way to get here to Scotland you know yeah the exhaust is telling
me that car's only just been turned on and driven from over
there but um on the movie set yes exactly so uh there's a bit of
that in Black Rabbit still excellent show though uh look we
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follow the live show page to check that that is the case we
would love to see you there it's all for a good cause it won't be
like our normal live shows we're doing a quiz and a raffle and it
promises to be be better I would say yeah maybe or maybe chaotic but
hopefully you won't mind because as I said it's raising money for a
good cause so uh please go to Smith and sniff dot com and buy a ticket
for that if there are still some on sale thank you please
we will be back on Friday answering some questions
and the following Monday with a regular show oh also I should say that the show
at Great British Car Journey for Mission Motorsport won't be recorded
so if you don't come along you'll never know what happened that's our FOMO thing
isn't it I like that yeah well we we genuinely forgot to record the
Glasgow show we were intending to record that one but this one
will not be recorded so um if you want to know what goes on there then you have
to come along and you get a half price you get the
chance to buy half price tickets to Great British Car Journey
and 25% off their drive down car experiences
until the end of July with your Smith and sniff ticket so which is worth an
incentive there as well just do just buy it for that
and then wear the the bit of bonus I would say yeah buying a discount voucher
and if you want to you can come along and hear us doing what we're doing
okay well that's enough for now but uh we'll see you again soon thank you
goodbye cheers babe thanks babe
and maybe leave a nice review
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About this episode
Jonny Smith and Richard discuss the curious phenomenon of car parts found roadside during their runs, including a mysteriously discarded MPV seat and a lone car seat at a petrol station. They speculate on the stories behind these abandoned parts, touching on issues like fly tipping and car crime. The conversation then shifts to a quirky Alaskan tradition where cars are driven off cliffs on the 4th of July, highlighting the spectacle and oddities of the event. The episode blends automotive curiosity with personal anecdotes and reflections on car culture.
Original notes
Jonny and Richard have a new idea for a TV show. Also in this episode, large car parts in the undergrowth, 4th July car throwing, staring out of train windows, Jonny’s stranded Insight, car-to-car comms in the 80s, watching the last Defender come off the line, smoking Michael McDonald, Jag XJs in staring roles, and giveaway exhausts in films and TV shows.
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