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Ford Bronco
The Ford Bronco is a type of big car that can drive well off-road, like on dirt or rocky paths. It looks tough and is good for adventures.
Car
Audi R8
The Audi R8 is a fast and sporty car that has its engine in the middle, which helps it drive really well. It looks cool and is very powerful.
Term
apex seals
Apex seals are small parts inside a rotary engine that help keep the engine working properly by sealing the moving parts. If they break, the engine can stop working well.
Concept
rotary engine
A rotary engine is a special kind of engine that works differently from normal car engines. It spins in a circle instead of using up-and-down parts, which makes it smooth but sometimes tricky to keep working.
Term
oil change interval
Oil change interval means how often you need to change the engine oil. Rotary engines need their oil changed more often than most modern cars.
Car
Mazda Rx7S
The Mazda RX-7 is a sporty car with a special kind of engine that spins very fast. It’s fun to drive but needs extra care to avoid engine problems.
Term
high RPM
RPM is how fast the engine is turning. High RPM means the engine is spinning very fast, which can make the car go faster but can also wear out the engine quicker.
Car
Mazda Rx8S
The Mazda RX-8 is a sporty car with a special kind of engine that spins very fast. It can have engine problems if it’s not taken care of properly.
Term
oil consumption
Sometimes engines use up oil faster than usual, so you have to add more oil between changes. This is called oil consumption.
Concept
engine swap
An engine swap means taking out the car's engine and putting in a different one, usually to make the car work better or be easier to fix.
Concept
trans-American trail
The trans-American trail is a very long path across America that people drive on with special vehicles made for rough roads.
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Ford Expedition
The Ford Expedition is a big SUV that can carry lots of people and things. It’s good for families and can pull heavy trailers.
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Ford Ranger
The Ford Ranger is a smaller truck that can carry things and drive on rough roads. People like it because it’s tough and good for both work and fun trips.
Brand
Toyota
Toyota is a big car company from Japan that makes many cars known for being reliable and good on gas.
Concept
small electric trucks
Small electric trucks are little trucks that run on electricity instead of gas. They are better for the environment and good for city driving.
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Ford Bronco Raptor
The Ford Bronco Raptor is a special version of the Bronco that is built to drive really well off-road, like on dirt and rocks.
Brand
Xiaomi
Xiaomi is a company from China that usually makes phones and gadgets, but now they also make cars, especially electric SUVs. It's like when a phone company starts making cars you can drive.
Term
self-driving
Self-driving means the car can drive itself without you controlling it all the time. It uses cameras and computers to help with things like steering and braking.
Term
heated and cooled seats
Heated and cooled seats mean the seats can get warm or cold to make you feel comfortable, especially when it's hot or cold outside.
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Jeep Grand
The Jeep Grand Cherokee is a big car that can carry people and stuff, and it can also drive on bumpy or rough roads easily. It’s comfortable and strong.
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Jeep Grand Wagoneer
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a big, fancy SUV that can go off-road and is very comfortable inside. Many people think it’s one of the best SUVs you can get.
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Ram
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Stellantis
Stellantis is a big company that owns many car brands like Jeep and Dodge. They make and sell cars all over the world.
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Infiniti QX80
The Infiniti QX80 is a big, fancy SUV that can carry many people and has a strong engine. The R-Spec is a sportier version with cooler looks.
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Lexus GX
The Lexus GX is a medium-sized SUV that can handle rough roads and also has nice features inside. It’s good for both adventure and everyday trips.
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Lexus LX
The Lexus LX is a big, fancy SUV that can drive off-road and is comfortable for everyday use. It’s like a tough car that also feels nice inside.
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Nissan Juke
The Nissan Juke Nismo R is a special version of a small SUV that is made to be sportier and more fun to drive. It has extra features that make it faster and look cooler than the regular version.
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Nissan Gtr
The Nissan GT-R is a very fast car that can drive well on all kinds of roads. People like it a lot, but it hasn’t changed much in recent years.
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manual
A manual transmission means the driver changes gears themselves using a stick and a pedal. It can make driving more fun because you control the car better.
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differential switch
A differential switch is a control that helps your car send power to the wheels that need it most, so it can drive better on slippery or rough roads.
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Subaru Outback
The Subaru Outback is a car that can drive on rough roads and in bad weather. It’s good for families and people who like to go on adventures.
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Porsche Boxster
The Porsche Boxster is a small, sporty car with a roof that opens. It’s fun to drive and handles really well on the road.
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Ferrari F40
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Lancia Stratos
The Lancia Stratos is a small, fast car made for racing on rough roads. It’s very famous because it won many races a long time ago.
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BMW M3
The BMW M3 is a fast and sporty car that’s good for daily driving and also fun on race tracks. It’s like a regular car but much more powerful.
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Lamborghini Huracan
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Mclaren F1
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Porsche Carrera GT
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Chevrolet Corvette
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Porsche 918 Spyder
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Mclaren P1
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BAC Mono
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911 Porsche Gt
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Welcome to the Vans podcast. I'm Dan.
I'm Nick.
And we're both old enough.
We're both old now.
Good Lord.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Yeah.
Are you going to be positive about it?
Embrace the future.
It is the day all my problems started, but I'm still here.
I went to bed last night.
Fine.
I woke up and somehow I pulled something.
So, and, you know, not to be worried.
I wasn't doing anything.
My wife and I both went to bed, went to sleep.
So I'm not really sure how.
That's how it happens.
It's when you stop doing stuff.
Well, I mean, I've been trying to pick up the, you know, exercise and do more.
And I didn't, I didn't do anything.
I haven't done anything that would facilitate the pain of not being able to care for myself
in the bathroom.
So I put that lightly.
So you heard it here first, folks.
Get up a day.
Yep.
We tried to tell you.
Oh God, that would be nice.
Right?
I don't know if I'd come out.
Go to Costco.
You'd see.
The problem is you have to, you have to have power in the bathroom.
Yeah.
I mean, you can run an extension cord to it.
Oh, that, I'm sure my wife would love to see it.
I wonder if the, if the extent, the fear and, and ugliness of the extension cord would be
overruled by the comfort of having it a day.
You mean a nice heated seat for yourself?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like heated seats in your car.
Once you have them, you don't really want to not have them ever again.
And then, you know, me, I probably end of the middle of the night trip over
and then hurt myself.
And then.
Well, maybe tape the cord out of the way.
Ah, that's no fun.
How are you supposed to injure yourself if you don't do something?
I do have some nice cord keeping brackets.
It's, it's, you know, it's temping.
I mean, I have, I did look at that at Costco and everything.
God, Costco's a zoo right now.
I know.
I'm going there later.
Are you?
Yeah.
Go there before November 1st.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, what else is new with you?
Um, boy, not too much.
We took it pretty low key this weekend.
One of our friends at Salish had dinner and that was really good.
I wanted some good salmon and nice view.
Well, that new, that new remodel they did sure is nice.
I haven't been there since.
It's really pretty.
We have planned to go a couple of times and things happened.
Dog was sick.
You know, we didn't feel good, but it was random.
And then I, I don't, I don't, you didn't really know it,
but I saw you twice on, I think it was Saturday.
Yeah.
I saw you in the Bronco and then as random as it was,
we were coming in them in row after doing some shopping.
And I was like, there can't be that many Audi R8s with,
with light bars.
By the way, it looks great.
I love light bars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, thank you for the gift, by the way.
Oh yes.
And the drink, as we say, that started rain city.
That's right.
It is actually.
It is the drinks.
Yeah.
Garb made me a laser engraved plaque of Sean and I in the Bronco.
I'm not going to lie.
That's pretty cool.
It is pretty cool.
I find it interesting though,
that they didn't put any of the branding on there.
Like legally, I don't think they're able to, but.
Well, he used the photo.
I know, but he didn't have it.
He didn't have it made though.
Oh, he made it himself.
It's the RTR grill.
It's just the way it rendered it.
Oh, okay.
Cause it's like you take an image.
Do you have a laser?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So you just get wood and you cut it to the shape you need.
And that's the base.
And then you can just set your engraving.
It's pretty cool.
And it's made in India.
Yeah.
It's good.
Okay.
No, that's cool.
Okay.
I thought he had it made in like they were like, we can't put any branding
on here.
No, it's got his own laser engraver.
Okay.
Pretty cool.
Who doesn't?
Right.
They've come down in price quite a bit for now.
Those and 3d printers and.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're reclining the seat back.
I'm going to.
I just had to get there first.
I had to get there first.
Recliners in the shop.
Yeah.
Really glad I did this.
Yeah.
Believe me.
Thanks for a great new studio space.
Yeah.
Do you have a fun tip for us?
I do.
Okay.
So this sort of came as I was going through some old photos actually.
And I saw, I have some photos on my R7.
I was looking at my FD.
I still love that car the way it looks.
Still miss Papa headlights.
There's a lot of nostalgia in that car there.
But I want to talk about that as a Carter tip was why do apex seals fail?
Why do rotary engines fail?
We joke about it a lot.
We talk about it a lot.
You know, the best rotary engine is an LS swap.
If you want to drive it.
So it's, it comes down to two things.
Turbo cars go through apex seals about twice as fast as naturally aspirated cars.
They're more volatile.
And, but what really kills apex seals is lack of lubrication.
Do we have a general definition of what an apex seal is?
So rotary engine, rotary being a triangle of the, you know, it's spinning spinning Dorito triangle in the engine.
And on the tips of that triangle are apex seals.
Think of them as the same thing as piston rings.
Just wanted to clarify.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so, but as the nature of a rotary is that it does consume a little bit of oil every time.
It's, it's just by nature.
It needs lubrication inside that cylinder and it scrapes that oil around and it burns it a little bit.
Not as much.
It's not like burning oil like you would in a car that has no piston rings, but it does burn oil a little bit.
And they need oil changes a lot more frequently than modern cars.
They need oil changes about the same interval as older cars, which is about 2,500 to 3,000 miles under heavy use about 2,000 miles.
So you will use the harder you are on the throttle, the more boost you throw on that engine, the more fuel you put in that motor,
the more heat it's going to generate and the more it's going to burn oil.
Even on modern oils, today's oils, I know back in the day when those cars, they were a little different.
Think of it more like a two stroke in the sense that it's part of the lubrication system is in the fuel.
It mixes that oil in the fuel.
It burns that oil.
Not a lot.
Again, you mean these cars were still passing emissions way back in the day.
So it's not some crazy amount, but it is what kills rotary engines.
And they are more susceptible, rotary engines in general are more susceptible to overheating from the way the coolant runs through the engine in those jackets.
And the way, especially with RX-7s, you had those twin sequential turbos on one side of the engine.
You had a huge heat build up coming out and they run at high RPM.
I guess by standards now, not really, but at the time a motor pushing 7,000-8,000 RPM was really high,
especially way back in the 90s.
And the RX-8s, I mean, had the same problems even being naturally aspirated,
but that's the common failure with Apex Steels though.
Well, they typically need to be rebuilt a little over.
If you're lucky, you get 100,000 miles out of one with really good maintenance and you haven't done a bunch to it.
Problem is, everybody did a bunch to it.
Everybody had an intakes and exhausts and bigger injectors and we didn't...
Huge snails.
And we were right at that CUSBO OBD-2 coming and so we had all these tuners and like...
And when one of those goes, it's not like a piston ring where you wear it down.
I mean, you'll know when Apex Steels is going bad because it's burning more oil.
You'll see it burning out of the tailpipe and it'll sputter.
It'll be hard to start because you have lower compression.
Problem is when they go, they often catastrophically go.
And so when they dislodge from the end of it, think of it like a piston ring unseating inside of the same...
Starts banging around inside.
Yeah, except you've only got two rotors in a modern...
So when one goes, it has to go somewhere and it usually goes right into the wall of that,
well, quote-unquote cylinder or rotor housing.
Or it comes out the exhaust and eats your turbo.
All good options.
Yeah, all good options.
Or if you overheat, you get the same problem as you get expansion and things go out around.
Like it's pretty catastrophic failure.
It's a very small engine, 1.3 liters.
It's very tiny.
The size of a milk crate is physical size, but it's not that light actually.
An LS swapped RX-7 is once you remove all the other crap that goes with the rotary, about the same weight.
Larger physicals face, smaller lower weight.
Okay.
So because you've got that huge eccentric shaft down the center, which is...
I mean, it's basically the crankshaft where these things ride on.
It weighs a lot.
The rotors weigh a lot.
The housings weigh a lot.
The cast iron, like things like that.
So anyway, but apex seals at the end, they go bad when you're typically low in lubrication.
You don't change your oil enough.
And you often need to add oil between.
The more performance you're pushing through those, the more oil you're using, typically.
And there's a reason these things never really caught on.
They're a cool concept.
I like that they're a novel approach to an engine.
They're something different.
And I like that about them, but I'm still not a fan as someone who's been through several engines.
It's just...
I think they're pretty when they're sitting there.
I love the car.
No, I mean the car.
I'm talking about rotary engines, like looking at a stock rotary engine and seeing how small it is.
It's a very pretty idea.
Obviously, you know, the joke is with these cars, with Mazda's and the fact that if you want to make it more liable, you put a Chevy engine in it, you put a Ford engine in it.
Right.
Kind of thing.
But aesthetically, they're very pretty.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
No.
And they had the weight, because of the size, they helped keep the weight pretty far back in the engine bay.
So they gave them a good balance because you had such a short engine and you just had a big intercooler and radiator up front.
But the most of that mass was behind the front shock towers.
Strut tower, excuse me.
And so, they handled pretty well.
And with that, they had, they were pretty lightweight cars, so they made pretty good speed.
But again, yeah.
The risk of failure is high.
They require a lot.
They can't...
You can't just get in and drive one like a normal car.
And I think that was the problem with the American market, especially now and why it's odd to me that Mazda's even considering bringing it back.
Because it's not a car that you can't pay attention to.
You really have to keep your eye on the fluids.
You have to listen.
You have to know what sounds that you're hearing.
It doesn't work for most of America that just wants a car that they can get in.
It starts.
It goes a million miles.
If I forget to change the oil, I end up on, you know, just rolled in and...
Sure.
Yeah, right.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
So, yeah.
So, I mean, I was...
You know how it is, you...
When we do research for the show, you end up going down a rabbit hole kind of thing.
Interesting topics tend to come out, things like that.
One of the topics I want to talk on is the fact that a lot of the car companies are starting to listen to us a little bit.
Subaru, Infiniti, things like that.
But I went down this first rabbit hole.
One thing that we have not talked about on this show, we've talked about the back country discoveries.
We've never talked about the trans-American trail.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And if you don't know, this is kind of a neat little fact.
Ford got together with them and they actually Google Street viewed the whole road this year.
It's like 6,000 miles.
It is.
It is.
It's like a Bronco, a stock ranger and expedition, which was kind of cool, I thought.
So, you can actually go on Google Street view now, or Google Earth is what I meant.
Google Earth.
And you can see the whole route.
Dan talks about it 100 times about when we try to plan routes and we talk to people who've been on motorcycles,
or if it's been mapped, that's a great way to see, like, can I get through there?
Will this work?
So, kind of a neat thing.
What came out of that is I started to watch a bunch of interviews with Jim Farley, who is the CEO of Ford.
And Chris Farley's cousin.
And they look alike.
Thank you for just taking that away.
That was one of my facts.
Would you like to redo this?
No, no, no, not at all.
That's literally what I had.
They look alike, which is funny.
They do.
They were doing an interview with him as he was talking about, he took his son in a lightning
and went down California and realized that they didn't have charging stations,
which led to him calling Elon out of the blue to try to get use of those things.
And they did.
And they did.
But it was like, he was talking in the interview, he's like, yeah.
And they were like, oh, road trip, just like your cousin.
And I was like, oh, there's no way.
Yeah.
I had no idea that him and Farley were cousins.
And if you don't know this, Jim comes from a long line of people that worked for Chevy
and Ford and things like that.
And he went to work for Toyota and his family did not really like it.
It's kind of an interesting process to hear where he came from.
But, you know, and Ford is now pushing towards these small electric trucks.
And it'll be interesting to see what actually comes of that.
It was just sort of one, the street view thing was was neat because if you're not
an off-roader, you can now get on there and you can see what the back roads of
going across America look like.
Yeah.
He's an interesting guy in general.
Like obviously he's eats, sleeps and breathes the industry.
He puts his, he tends to be, he takes the Toyota approach of really getting
in the driver's seat of a lot of the vehicles they have.
Like he's done, I was at the Bronco Raptor off-road and they had
pictures of Jim there.
Yeah.
Like doing the rodeo.
He goes out and tests the vehicles.
Yeah.
Like Ford makes.
Yeah.
Pretty, I like him as a, just in general.
Like he's just interesting to listen to.
He seems to be a good guy from what little I know about him from the media.
But I follow his Instagram and I look at his stuff and I like some of the stuff
he has to say.
He imported, and I don't know the whole story.
He imported a Chinese electric car.
Oh, yeah.
He drives a Xiaomi SUV.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Xiaomi is, that's the proper pronunciation I know.
I'm glad you knew that.
I didn't.
Yeah.
But it's, it's X-I-O-M-A-I, I think.
Xiaomi is, I've heard a lot of Americans say, or Xiaomi, but it's actually
Xiaomi.
They're popular for making everything in China.
It's electronic, and phones, and everything.
Some pretty cool features in that car.
If it wasn't for the 100% tariffs on Chinese vehicles, they would be a
real threat to American cars.
The Tesla and Rebel.
In general.
Because it's, I think it's, you can get one over there pretty loaded
for less than 60,000.
Like literally.
And they have a lot of standard features.
Power everything.
You know, they self-driving.
It's not as good as Tesla's, but it's definitely there.
They have, you know, heated and cooled seats.
Like all that stuff you'd expect in a luxury vehicle, but in the
sub 60,000 mark.
And in the electric car market, if you looked at it, there's only a
handful of vehicles in that.
It can be done, people.
Yeah.
Like or dislike China and the things that are going on.
It can be done.
Well, I mean, government subsidized factories, the government's
putting a lot of money into that through taxation.
They have their own economy troubles.
It's not all roses over there, but it is, you know, when you
have a government subsidized workforce that has paid very
little, you can get a lot done.
Weird.
Yeah.
Agree with that or not.
That is how they're doing it.
And so that's why it's a real threat and hence why you
get cheap TVs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I think the automotive market is changing.
One of the things that came out this week that Dan and I
actually were laughing about and we don't really, she talked
about comedians on here.
But if you've ever heard of the female comedian, Eliza
Schlesinger.
Yes.
So she teamed up with Jeep and I don't know if I can
really, I don't know how much of it I can actually talk.
Go look for it.
I mean, it is a fantastic ad.
If you don't know, the Jeep Grand Wagoneer was rated by
Jalopnik, the number one car to have sex in.
Yes.
And it was sort of a joke.
It was a joke.
But Jeep saw it and with what's his name coming back in
as the CEO of Ram and Jeep and all that.
Yeah.
They ran with it and they did a, it's probably a
four minute commercial, three and a half, four
minute commercial.
Watch it.
You will laugh.
I mean, she is funny.
She always has been funny.
If you know comedians, she's the party goblin.
She's the CFO.
She is the CFO.
Oh, the chief financial offer.
Sure.
Chief fun officer.
Fun officer.
Yeah.
So I just really got to applaud them.
Like I said, I think that's, you know, we're seeing
some, some life obviously in the car community,
things coming back, you know, the RHO going away
and getting back to the TRX and things like that.
And it's going to be interesting.
I posted it on my Facebook page.
If you just go look up Jeep commercial, it will come up.
Watch it.
Do not watch it around children.
Just in case it's all about how Jeep is good at
making babies.
Basically.
So yeah.
Yeah.
That was a, I like you were saying, I think that is a
really, it marks a really good shift for
Stellantis.
Yes.
That's what that's the word I was looking for.
Which is basically, you know, they've been
circling the drain for years and it's nice to see an
actual cultural shift and them getting back to it.
It's just a funny commercial.
But at the same time, it's not insulting though.
Like, you know, we talk about, somebody said this
week, and I forgot who it was in the news that we're
kind of getting out of cancel culture, which I'm
fine with, you know, the idea that you're able
to have an opinion, you know, minus a racial
opinion.
20 years ago you said.
Yeah.
You tweeted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
It's dark coffee.
Well, okay.
Well, you know, decaf hates you now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like I said, it was funny.
It's out there.
It's gotten a great response.
I haven't seen a lot of negative.
I'm sure there are people out there that are
offended by it, but that's life.
So yeah.
Exactly.
One of the things I want to talk about is, you
know, the car companies that are, that are
kind of listening to us.
Xfinity.
Xfinity.
I've seen one of them in Subaru as of today, too,
but X, boy, that's going to be in my head.
Infinity came out with a concept, which is the QX-80
R-spec.
And if R-spec and infinity sound similar, it's
because R-spec means that they put a GT-R motor
in basically their biggest SUV.
Yes.
And it's decent looking.
Like, and it's something that I think we've
talked about on the show, things like this
would sell.
Like we were talking about the LX and the
GX and things like that.
That's an actual off-road model.
There it is.
So this is not an off-road model.
This would be a...
No, performance street model.
Getting you to the store in no time, GT-R
SUV.
You know, I still, they did make it
technically, if you could get one, the
Juke Nismo R.
True.
Which is what I want to see more of from...
Nissan.
Well, from companies in general.
I wish they would make more fun
products that were actually kind of niche
and that just not on the normal mainstream
market.
Yeah.
The problem is I was happy to see it.
I was also surprised to see it from a company
that is another one totally circling the
drain.
I'm like, cool, but you're not really
bringing your product to market that's
going to put you guys...
Thanks for showing us something we're
not going to be able to buy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you guys can't even put out a
new GT-R a little.
Yeah.
So I'm glad.
Like I said, I wish more companies would do
it.
I'm a little surprised that they, of
all companies, would do it.
It's probably not the best use of,
you know, dollars that could be,
as you said, they're circling the drain.
What I did want to bring out is Subaru
came out with a new STI hatchback
concept today.
And they've been listening to people.
Not only is it a manual, it's got the
big wings on it.
It looks like an old hatch.
It's got, they brought back the
differential switch in the middle
that you could do that.
Oh, I like that.
And everybody in the Subaru market
and in the world is kind of going,
yeah, you should make that.
Like it looks to the point where
it's not an ugly Subaru.
It's not like...
And if you don't know...
It's not a CVT with paddles.
We've got some good responses,
by the way, on this week's episode,
because people are like,
that's stupid CVTs.
But it shows that they're kind of
listening.
We've talked about this in the past.
Subaru is bringing out the new
outbacks and the new foresters and
especially the outback wilderness
and stuff.
And they're hideous.
They're absolutely...
Yeah, they're really nice.
I haven't even seen any that have
hit the shores yet.
Like I'm on the road.
So I don't know if maybe they took
some of the...
It took a little far with the plastic
cladding.
Let's put that one.
Yeah, I mean, it's...
Not a huge fan.
And I'm a Subaru fan.
Yeah.
But it shows that...
And several commenters have said,
I've watched several videos on this
car and the fact that Subaru listened.
Like because the classic
Subaru STI hatchback was huge
because people put the wings on,
they put the wide body kits on.
They were good looking cars.
The engines were somewhat reliable.
Kind of like the Rotaries as long as
you cared for them.
But it kind of shows that maybe
they're listening.
Yeah.
So one of the things...
Yeah, let's talk about that.
So I think what's happening is
yes, they are listening.
I don't think they have the ability
to listen before.
The government was telling what
they had to do.
They had to shift all their
marketing, all their tooling into
cars people didn't want.
The vast majority of people didn't
want.
It didn't suit the lifestyle of
anybody who didn't live outside
of a major metropolitan area,
which is a lot of the U.S.,
but it's still a lot...
You know, the other half is not.
And that other half also wants cars.
And even most people in the city
weren't that thrilled on electric
cars.
It's 10%.
So if you're catering to the 10%,
you're not going to make a very good
market share unless you have a
very expensive, very niche product
and that 10% is willing to spend
a lot of money on it.
For our owners.
Yes.
For our owners.
That said, that's a great
transition.
Yeah.
Porsche released their results and
they are in the tank.
What do I...
Hardcore in the tank.
That's not good.
It's a total mystery, isn't it?
But there's all these new GT3 RSs
on the road and in the river.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So after years and years and years
of price gouging and pricing people
out of the market and insane ADMs
and people just giving up
because they're in a very uncertain
economy if you haven't noticed,
you know, the 30,000 Amazon
last just happened.
It's basically been three years of
layoffs in the tech industry.
That trickle down effect has killed
a lot of these luxury markets
very quickly.
People are...
Those are your buyers.
Yeah.
Those are your buyers and they
are uncertain about that money
coming in.
And I'm right there with them.
I'm not going to go make any
expensive vehicle purchases right
now.
I'm going to go put my money
away and invest in the things
that are safe, which is not
buying fun sports cars.
As much as I would like to,
you got to think a year in
advance and play it safe.
There's just times to roll and
times to not.
This isn't one of them.
So as a result, Porsche's
earnings are totally in the
tank, like really in the tank,
concerning levels of in the
tank.
Well, also they took their
customers and Ferrari does this
too, this pay to play stuff
like, oh, you want a GT3 RS?
You have to have bought a
Boxster, a GT4, a GT4.
You have to have bought all
these cars before we're going
to even offer it to you.
But then they go and they'll
just give the car to some
random YouTuber because, you
know, publicity.
Yeah.
Which I don't think helps the
market because people that
want to get into there don't
want to pay that much.
They want, yeah, they want a
new GT3.
They want a GT3 RS.
They have the money, but
maybe they're a new Porsche
customer.
Yeah.
And the clout chasing market
is dying quickly.
Yeah.
Real quickly because people
just aren't that impressed
anymore.
Like people just don't care.
I mean, if you don't drive
a car for yourself, you're
going to be very disappointed
very quickly because that,
you will have a never-ending
need to keep up.
You will always be, you know,
behind the guy in the, you
know, the GT2 RS if you've got
the GT3 RS and you're not
really, nobody cares except for
you and the guy with the GT2 RS
maybe.
And you take the stickers off,
nobody can really tell.
Yeah.
And like, no, they're both
amazing bad-ass cars.
I'm going to be real happy
in the driver's seat any of
them.
Or passenger seats.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But, you know, if you
think about how small the
market that actually is and
now that market is shrinking
and it's shrink, it's not
just shrinking, the market
is changing as people get
older.
Like the people that are
buying those cars were
getting old and now the us
market is saying, I don't think
I want to spend $350,000 on
a $200,000 car.
Yeah.
And I don't want to spend
$500 either.
So they're like, maybe I just
won't be a Porsche customer.
Maybe I won't pay the ADM.
I mean, does, so Porsche
does it.
I mean, within that group,
does, does Audi do that?
I don't see Audi really.
Only on the, what was the
one they had, the RS6
special edition they had.
Oh, okay.
That was the one I saw go
for like an insane ADM.
And a few dealers, I mean,
but I mean, and in the day,
you could walk into an Audi
dealership and you could
order an R8.
Oh yeah.
And yeah, they weren't,
there wasn't any GT.
Just the GT.
Yeah.
The GT had a little bit.
And there was, you know,
COVID pricing aside, that was
a pretty odd practice until
COVID.
And I think everybody just
kind of went wild with it
in COVID.
And instead they, they all
took that short-term gain
and that long-term loss.
And this is where you're
seeing that long-term loss
is coming back faster than
they think because the
economy shifted so much.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's interesting,
because like we were talking
Porsche and another thing
I want to talk about is Ferrari
because they just came out
with a new model,
which is the Ferrari SC40.
And if you've never heard
of that, it's because there's
one in the world
and somebody went to Ferrari
and said, I don't like
what you're doing with cars
and I want to design my own
car.
And they threw enough money
down on the table
and they built.
Some are calling as a modern
tribute to the F40,
which is kind of a stretch.
It's built on the 296 chassis.
It looks.
So I read the same thing.
Yeah.
It's supposed to be an F40 tribute
kind of car.
Yeah.
The wing is 40-ish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It reminds me more of a Lancia
Stratos, we imagine.
It does.
With F40 kind of bits on it.
But this is interesting to
me because Ferrari is so
protective of their brand
and obviously this was done
with Ferrari.
So they had to get past
Ferrari.
But I mean, you know,
Ferrari right now is
and has been,
if you don't know
who dead mouse was
in the way he wrapped his
Ferrari and Ferrari sued him
because, you know,
and Ferrari has this
idea in their head that
just because you buy their car
that they still own it
and they have the right,
you know, you're not allowed
to modify it, things like that.
Lamborghini on their
hand is, here's our car,
paint it whatever color
you want, have a nice day.
Yeah.
But something like this
is intriguing to me
because there's been other
people that have done it.
Eric Clapton did it.
I think it was a 430
or a 458 that they
redid for him.
Right.
Yeah.
Eric Clapner,
but
it brings up the idea
that somebody comes in
and goes, okay,
I don't like what you're making.
And they're saying it
to a brand that
basically looks at everybody
else and says,
you have to like what
we're making.
You're going to eat it.
You're going to eat it.
And I realize this
after looking at it.
It's not as one-off
as you think
because they also introduce
that latest Testarosa.
Yeah.
And it looks very much
like a Testarosa,
which is based off
the 296
or the SF90,
I think one of them.
But it's a different market.
I mean, that's
a FU money kind of thing.
I can't even imagine
what that car costs to develop.
Yeah.
Some oil money,
like most of the 430s
have always done.
No, I get it.
But it'll probably
never see the road.
You know,
you throw enough money
at anything
and it's not so special
anymore.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just something that's
sacred.
It's sacred.
The nothing's sacred.
But is anything
obtainable?
I mean,
anybody can have
a wood burner now.
Right?
Anybody.
Anybody can have a wood burner.
Some people
that probably shouldn't
have wood burners.
You and I.
Yeah.
We would definitely
start a fire for fun.
For fun.
Yeah.
How many watts can
he go up to?
Obviously,
to circle back
to this,
like Ferrari is
the classic one.
You can't even
get near their
hypercars,
unless you've bought
them.
You know,
to a point,
a lot of those collectors,
some of them here,
that's what they do,
which,
if you're in the
Ferrari brand
and you love the
Ferrari brand,
it makes sense
to buy a 296,
to buy the Roma,
to buy this,
to get up to the
SP3,
to get up to the,
what is it,
the F80 now.
But some of these
people,
I've seen so many
people that
really can afford it
and want to play
in the Ferrari brand,
but Ferrari
doesn't want to play
to keep it.
No.
Like they bring it,
they decide when you drive it,
they, you know,
so,
I think,
obviously we're dealing,
this is not
Hyundai we're talking about,
that Hyundai goes,
well, hold on.
Ferrari makes a pretty
unique experience
for their owners,
when you really
want to play in the
race car field,
you want to
breathe that
rarefied Italian air.
They make a pretty
amazing experience.
The owners are there
and they've had that
loyalty for years
because of that.
There's an
exclusivity to it.
Even when I've,
you know,
I've been able to
afford a Ferrari
for a while
and I still
have no desire to own one
because I just
don't want to spend the
return on the money
for the value of what
I would get out of it.
I just don't care
enough.
I just want to go
drive.
It's funny because
one of their biggest
critics is Jay Leno.
I know.
None of their cars
because he
will not pay to play.
Yeah.
He wants to
drive a car to
drive a car.
That's why he has
such a great
Ferrari I've driven
and I've been
extremely fortunate.
Okay.
No, I still like the
sound of it.
But I mean,
I hated driving it.
I did not.
Yeah, I did not
like the Roma,
but that was a pre-production
car.
But I mean,
the ones I've been
fortunate enough to
get behind the wheel of
especially their manual
cars, even their
slow 80s cars
and trust me,
all 80s
Ferraris are slow
if you drive anything
modern, but they're
still great.
They sound amazing.
They've got a
unique feel to them.
It's a Ferrari.
It's a Ferrari.
At the end of the day,
it's a Ferrari.
And I get that.
It's just, you know,
to me and I think to
more and more buyers,
they're just like,
I'm just not really
into the name brands
anymore.
I'm into what it can
do for me as a car
is something to
drive.
I don't care whose
names on it.
And it amazes me
and we've talked
about this, too,
is the reliability.
Lamborghini,
Ferrari,
these high-end brands,
Pagani,
as much as
they are beautiful
sculptures,
well, if you drive them
all the time,
there's constant issues.
They're not really
built to be
high-mines cars.
Yeah, the
Huracan's the exception.
That's different.
Yeah, I agree.
That's a workhorse.
That's an R8 in disguise.
Yeah.
And this is where
Porsche really does
well, though.
We can go back to
that.
Porsche really does
well at making
relatively reliable
cars.
They've had a few
one-offs.
Their early
was the
997.2 GT3,
which had an
impending motor failure
little issues.
But for the most part,
you know, you can daily
a 911 Turbo S
and spank the pants
off anything on the road,
drive it over the pass
and go skiing with it,
drive it to work the
next morning,
which is pretty amazing.
But it's still not
$400,000
amazing to me.
It's
$150,000
amazing.
And
that's kind of
where I draw the line.
You think the numbers
that we put on
what we think something
is worth
are slanted
because of our experiences?
They're slanted
because of our income.
And I mean,
like, if I was making,
you know,
eight figure income,
I don't know if I would
care that much
if my car was $400,000.
Okay.
Because to me,
it's, you know,
if you think about
the sliding scale,
but, you know,
there's not a lot of people
making eight figures
and that number
is getting smaller.
So, I mean,
if I was in that
bracket,
I wouldn't care.
I would go buy
the car I want to buy
and I wouldn't really
care what I paid
for it.
If I, you know,
if I didn't think
it was going to impact
my other investments
or my other day life,
I would have
a different opinion
and I realized that.
Well, and a lot of those
people buy those cars
as investments.
So, that's why they're
not driven.
You see these beautiful
collections.
And they're something
and they're very,
they were very good
investments.
And I stand
and Dan and I do
understand that
we're in an area
here in Washington
where most of the
collectors here
drive their cars,
which is kind of rare.
That is rare.
I mean,
it's really cool.
Yeah.
Doug named a driver's clip
for a reason.
Yeah.
Agreed.
There's a lot of cars
in there that get
really driven.
Agreed.
And I love that
those owners drive them.
There's one race car
in there that has
that has turn signals
that I would love
to see on the road.
I have tried
to get the owner
to do it.
I've asked
if I could do it
and that's the only
time he actually told
me no.
Yeah.
It was a fit issue.
He doesn't think
I'd fit in it.
Yeah.
We have some time left.
Yeah.
So this is just
an off the cuff question.
If you had a forever
car, what would it be?
Oh.
There's one.
I mean,
even if you've
never had it,
I'm not.
And you're just
talking about a car
that I would never sell?
Yeah.
Excluding the
McLaren F1.
Do I have to drive it?
Yes.
Car you drive.
So it's not just
consistently or just
in the garage.
No, no, no.
It's in your garage
for Sunday
because that car
you would walk out there
and never.
Stipulations, though,
in the fact,
is it something,
is there a monetary
value to it?
Is there a sentimental
value to it?
Is there a could be?
Sentimental wise,
I have the triumph.
The triumph.
Yeah.
I will never,
I will never sell that car,
even though it's
at the shop right now
and the bill is going
up and up and up.
Classic car ownership.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But what did you
say I couldn't have?
McLaren F1.
Why not?
Because everybody would
pick McLaren F1.
Oh, I see.
Okay, Farina.
After watching the McLaren
rally that just happened
in the tail of the
dragon and stuff like that
and the problems they had
because those cars don't
get driven,
I don't know if I would.
Yeah.
That's true.
That's a tough,
that's a tough answer.
Yeah.
I have not come
to a conclusion yet
because there's not
one car for me.
I would probably,
I think the one car
I want doesn't really
exist.
It would probably be
a converted 992
Carrera 4 GTS
converted to a
Turbo S spec
because I want the
Targa Roof.
I want something I can
just get in and go.
I don't want hybrid.
I want all-wheel drive
and the Carrera 4 GTS
comes in a manual,
a rev matching manual
at that.
And even though the
DSG or the PDK
in the Porsche
is fantastic,
probably the best
PDK ever driven,
especially in the 992,
the newer car
is just perfect.
I still think I could
get into that car
every day
or whenever
just a sunny day
and I think I would have
like the most perfect
long range
back road driving
experience in that car.
Top down,
snow comes,
put it up.
I think my answer
has three cars
and it's the Holy Trinity.
Carrera GT,
Clarem P1
and the Laferoi.
I think I'm the
only person alive
who would take the
over the Carrera GT.
I mean, they're both one.
There's something
the Carrera GT
wants to kill you more
than your Corvette wanted
to kill you.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And I think taming that
and knowing
that I have to drive it
every day
and knowing that
no matter how good
of a driver it makes me,
it will still...
And of those three...
It's a fantastic choice.
I think Carrera GT
would be right there.
I think that would be
my...
I've driven the
Clarem P1.
Amazing.
It's very
drivable.
But also I think
as weird as this is
and this is a very
simple thing,
if you're in a Carrera GT,
the seats are comfortable.
Like they're meant
to be comfortable.
Even the P1,
they're not that comfortable.
Laferoi,
they don't move.
You're locked in.
You're locked in.
And I feel like
with Carrera GT
I can take the top off.
I can put the top on.
I would be comfortable.
I would be...
There's room in that.
If the top is on,
you still have some room
in the front trunk.
I could still take it
to the store.
God knows,
probably just only Medina.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think that
after hearing your things
like,
probably my head was
the Holy Trinity,
but then the Carrera GT,
I think that would be...
It's a great choice.
Ageless design too.
It's one of those
beautiful cars I ever made.
I think
does Ben still own his?
I don't know.
I remember one time,
one of the first
times I met Ben,
he had his
and he was talking about it.
And the way
he described that car
and how,
if you drove it
like you want,
just a calm drive,
it would be fine.
But if you,
I mean,
if you wanted it to be
the animal that it was,
it was that.
I mean,
and I just,
I think that car was just
ahead of its time,
you know,
obviously,
but the 918,
you're correct.
The 918 would be
an amazing car.
It's because it's livable,
more livable to me.
True.
Yeah.
No, I think the Carrera GT
is a more iconic car.
But also,
you got a ticking time bomb
with that hybrid system.
Well, I mean,
all these McLaren P1 owners
are having to replace their batteries.
Yeah.
Thank God they've come back
and they've come up
with a new battery for it.
But the hybrid system
scare me kind of thing,
but Carrera GT.
Yeah, I
can say,
I don't mind hybrids at all.
I think they're a fantastic car,
especially a drive.
I just wouldn't want one
for the forever car.
But it's a reliability issue.
Yeah.
I mean,
I know that
the Carrera GT
has a lot of issues,
but if it's something
that I'm putting
close to
1000 or 2000 miles a month on,
like,
yeah,
and it wouldn't be real great here.
No.
No, but
yeah.
If I have to have something
that converts
then that 90s Viper
that converted into
an off-road car.
That one.
The Viper Viper.
The Viper Viper.
From the show Viper.
Yeah.
If you don't know,
if you don't know,
there was a Viper
and then he hit a button
and it turned into
an off-road Viper.
And so,
you can do anything in it.
Yeah.
I love that show
when I was a kid,
it's so terrible.
It's so bad.
You look back on it,
it just,
it aged even worse
than you even expected,
which makes it so fun.
Oh yeah, it's horrible, yeah.
And they painted it
silver for God's sakes.
Yeah, I think that would be,
I think that would be
my forever car.
I think, you know,
and then,
but
I have,
the problem is in my mind,
I'm like,
oh, but you're never
going to be able to go off-road.
You're never going to be able
to.
Out of other cars.
I'm just thinking,
I don't know what I would have
and never sell.
And I was like,
I don't know if there is one
that isn't modified to my liking.
I mean,
a BAC mono was the first thing
I thought of,
but I was like,
it's so unlivable
except for such extreme
circumstances.
Oh, also,
if we're saying stupid things,
my career GT would have
the comfort Apollo kit on it.
Oh yeah.
Because why not?
Why not?
Yeah.
Because I want to blend in.
That's what I want to do.
So,
yeah,
I think that would be,
that's it.
It was funny because
you were talking about porches
and I was like,
that classic Porsche,
like initially,
I thought nine five nine,
never been in one,
but I mean,
you know,
I thought that'd be a great car.
I mean,
and obviously,
this is very livable.
Yeah,
but I'd want to drive that car
more to be seen in it
than it would be to be.
I think you would get way
more attention in the
great GT.
Oh,
absolutely.
Huge margin.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think it'd be fun to get
some of the attention
for the nine five nine
bunch of old guys.
I was going to say,
you'd get it from
that guy.
I don't know.
That's a tough question.
I mean,
that's not a question
that hasn't come up
before in our life,
but no tough.
Like,
yeah,
I just say,
I mean,
there's so many good answers
to because there's cars
I would just want to have
because they're so beautiful.
I want to just keep looking
at them.
I want them in the shop
just to have them,
but I was listening to
an article
or listening to an article.
I was listening to a video
and somebody was talking
about this
and I don't want to be
this,
but somebody said that
I'm a 50 Raptor.
Yeah.
You will never go wrong
with having that truck.
Yeah.
Like the because you have
the truck,
you're going to be a Raptor
person.
You can do everything
you want in it.
It will go off road.
It'll be fun,
but it's a great daily
driver.
It's not the best I'm
managed, but like
something like that
in that category.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The only my only complaint
with it is it's too
large for a lot of
the off-roading here.
But think about it
where my career GT
matches.
And my green color
it's fun to spend money.
I'll never have
with a tan leather interior.
Oh, absolutely.
Look where they go with that
wood shift.
Oh, God.
Oh,
yeah.
Shelter green metallic
afford color on a Porsche.
Boy,
that would do it.
That would send some people
through.
Oh,
a hundred percent.
That'd be cool.
Either that or it'd be
and it's already been done,
but because I think
Solomon did it years ago,
but that Ruby stone red.
Oh, yeah.
That color is just
there's a.
It's an RS for
Avant in Ruby stone metallic.
OK.
And it looks beautiful.
Oh, yeah.
My car.
RS model out east in
Porsche colors.
That is where it's at.
I think I mean
they stand out.
Right.
Yeah.
I want to I want to drive.
This is an open and nobody's
going to do this.
I want to drive the new two
GT three RS.
Because I just want to
plenty of people.
They do not have common sense
if they're going to let me drive
that car.
No,
I want to drive that car like that
is something that
I have driven the
the older GT two RS GT
threes.
I've driven GT threes.
I've had the opportunity to
be in.
I mean, I remember the first
time I was in the GT three RS
was with is in the
driver's club GT three RS
for our birthday,
actually.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, Amanda.
Long time ago,
but I just
I want to experience that
car.
But as much as
it's a track car,
I want to experience that car
in an everyday setting.
I want to because so many people,
there's so many people on both
sides that this is like,
you could drive it every day.
They're doing without the
comfort seats.
People are saying,
this is a race car.
You shouldn't do that.
But I'm in the middle.
I know you can.
That's my point.
You could as I'm saying
specifically,
we are the driver.
As I'm sitting here talking
about how my back hurts
from when I went to sleep.
Yeah, but they're pretty
comfortable.
So high end sports car seats
if once you find a fit
that's right for you,
and you can adjust the
padding on those so easy.
Like Porsches,
another great thing about
Porsche GT cars is that you can
really adjust everything.
And you can get the big
covers in it too.
The guy that loves
Senate seats.
Yeah, one of the most
comfortable seats I've ever
and they have no padding
in them really.
Huggy just right.
They do.
I'm just saying like what
people usually don't like
about the RS cars is
one, they're loud.
They have a lot less sound
insulation.
They're pretty jerky on
the shifting or notchy
because it's, you know,
it's an aggressive
transmission, but it's
a great car to drive.
We talk about all the things
we do.
I don't know if I would modify
that car.
If I was given that car,
there's somebody exhaust
that we know through
Facebook and stuff like that
that's in Florida that has one
in green with a dark leather
interior.
So like, yeah, yeah,
I would change the exhaust
out because it's I want to
open it up.
But that's it.
But it sounds good stock.
I kind of trust Porsche on
that.
I will be interested to see
the GT2.
That's it.
Yeah.
If I could just get the
factory sport exhaust, it
really doesn't need anything.
And if you're not going to
track it, you're not going to
change out the carbon ceramics.
You're not going to, you know,
get the factory optional half
cage.
I mean,
just ever since the I think
I showed you that video.
There's a guy that's in the
other ones and has been
dailying it every day since
he got it like a year ago
didn't clear brought.
So it has every and it's
it's gorgeous to me like
that's just a gorgeous
thing.
So yeah.
Who knows?
Well, hey, maybe they'll
become affordable.
There's a circle in the drain.
Yeah.
As always, I mean, put your
put your forever car in the
comments.
We're always curious.
Like I said, we and I really
want to say we we started to
get some really good
engagements in the podcast.
I started with the movie cars
this week.
We were talking about the
useless features in in cars
that came out.
I guess it was last week.
It came out today.
But, you know,
we'd like to hear these
things because it helps us
to kind of, you know,
take our opinions and talk
about yours and it makes it
fun.
Obviously, it's a big part
of the advanced community.
So yeah.
Yep.
Oh, and one more thing before
we go.
Big shout out to Chris and
Trista.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We I mean they got second
place second place.
That's in team velocity
second place.
So big shout out to team
velocity.
It was 99% them and 1%
the Ranger Raptor.
That's right.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Yeah, they're they're
good at what they do.
Second place is no joke
in a rally that big.
No, that is awesome.
That's a lot of very proud
of them.
Love to support them.
I love seeing their social
media.
Yeah.
If you haven't followed them,
go follow them because they
did some stuff.
Apparently there's a like a
ball after the and they had
custom dresses made that were
amazing.
They love it.
So all right.
Well, I will I will link to
team velocity on here.
You can go support them
and you should because
they're part of your
advanced community.
They're doing cool stuff
and they're yeah,
they're doing great
in the big rallies.
Absolutely.
All right.
As always for the
advanced podcast, I'm Nick
and I'm Dan and don't just
get there.
Enjoy the drive.
About this episode
The hosts dive into the intricacies of rotary engines, focusing on why apex seals fail, emphasizing lubrication and maintenance challenges. They share personal anecdotes about their cars and discuss the unique appeal and drawbacks of rotary engines, especially in RX-7s and RX-8s. The conversation also touches on modern automotive tech trends, like Ford's collaboration to map the Trans-American Trail on Google Earth, offering off-road enthusiasts new planning tools. The episode blends technical insights with casual banter about car culture and personal experiences.
apex seals
Audi
differential switch
engine swap
heated and cooled seats
high RPM
manual
oil change interval
oil consumption
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Audi R8
BAC Mono
BMW M3
Chevrolet Corvette
Ferrari F40
Ford Bronco
Ford Expedition
Ford Ranger
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Jeep Grand Cherokee
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Lamborghini Huracan
Lancia Stratos
Lexus GX
Lexus LX
Mazda RX-7
Mazda RX-8
McLaren F1
McLaren P1
Nissan GT-R
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Porsche 911
Porsche 918 Spyder
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Original notes
Porsche profits dropped a whopping 99% this year. And as usual, this was extremely easy to predict. They already pulled back on the full electrification of the Boxster and Cayman, but add in weakening sales in China, tariffs, and people just plain tired of paying ridiculous ADMs and Porsche had an easy to see plan to fail. Car companies need to fire their bean counters in our opinion. Nissan brings back cool SEMA cars with their 1,000 QX80, but we have to wonder why Nissan is building anything like it when they’re barely operational since their last CEO escaped in a Box. Ferrari proves yet again that with enough oil money they’ll build anything you want. We also ask the question, if you had to keep one car forever, what would you drive?
Also, a big shoutout to our friends at Team Velocity for their second place finish in the Rebelle Rally! We love supporting them and are so proud of them. Check them out here! https://team-velocity.com/
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