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Porsche 912
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Good day, everyone. Welcome back to Porsche Talk Radio Show. After our last episode, which was
a cracker, if you haven't listened to it with Mike O'Neill from Wrench, we're back with the
old team, Hajmal, Mark. Let's start this, Hajmal. What's been happening since our last
catch-up? Well, just as, it feels like it's been ages, but it hasn't actually been
that long. No, it hasn't. I think it's, and just while we were talking, while you did that
intro, I received a letter that was just opening and it's a fine. I see it wasn't written on
the front then. Okay. No, no, no. It was, so I went to Liverpool probably about a month
ago. The Mersey Bridge is there's a charge for going across it. Sure. But then you've
got to go onto a portal on the day and put it in. Yeah. And I drove across it and I thought,
I must remember to do that. And obviously I drove back as well the following day. I've
got two penalty notices. From a £1.50 toll, you've gone to a £30 fine, have you? Well,
two 25s. Yeah. Okay. That was close. That's £50. That's upsetting. Anyway, I've done that.
Ended up in Liverpool. I know. Yeah. So I've done that. But just the last few weeks have
just been really busy with stuff at home, at work, bit of work travel. My wife's been
away for like a week. Yeah. And that kind of, which actually, do you know what the weird
thing is? My wife was away and everyone, everyone on the school run and stuff like
that says, Oh, how are you coping? Which I kind of slightly irritates me that they think
you're incompetent. Well, yeah, but it's also quite a sexist thing. Like, you know, if
a woman's doing a drop off and her husband's away, you don't go, Oh, how are you coping?
Well, don't. Interesting. And so when, and then someone said, Oh, you know, and I was walking
there with my girls and we were prassing about and just jumping in and out the hedges and
stuff. And, and someone said to me, Oh, that's good dadding. And you managed to do her
hair. That's put it in a plaid. And you know, when you go, it's good. No, no,
that's just parenting. That's what everybody should be doing every day. So I was a little
bit offended by that. But anyway, yeah, not a massive amount has happened on a car front
because my 996 is still at jacks. Really? It's been over a month. Yeah, it's been over
a month. Because remember, I dropped it off there. And for anybody who's listening,
who missed that episode, my the coolant and the oil have mixed into the coolant
not in the engine. So he's I said to I went to see him. And I said, Oh, can I just leave
it? So I don't want to be looking at it on my driveway and just have a look at it when
you get a chance. So he hasn't looked. Well, he hadn't looked at it last week. But I got
a message of him yesterday saying he's going to ring me today. Right. So I'll hear
something. But on on the on the 912, I managed to fit the find the rubber and fix
the horn that was going off randomly. So that's fixed. Good. And and other than that,
I haven't I haven't driven it. I took it out the garage because I needed to do
something in the garage. That's literally it. I've not been anywhere. And
obviously it's green. But what are you little bits and pieces here and there?
But I'll start with the 356. I don't know about me. I mentioned, I mentioned in
the previous episode that I got the six volt alternator that looks like a dyne
generator. I'm pretty sure. Yes. Yeah. So that's installed now. And all fed it
exactly as it supposed to as it was written on the packet. So that was
all relatively straightforward bit of, you know, botching up the wire wiring to
make it look like it belonged where it did. So I've left the six volt regulator on
the wall on the firewall of the of the engine bay. So it all looks relatively
straightforward with stock. And I know I mentioned also that I've mucked
around and with spark plugs a bit lately and I'm on the bandwagon of
iridium spark plugs because of your lack of enthusiasm to fail compared to the
couple. Yeah. And when I was doing that, the, you know, the little aluminium ends
screw on your spark plug that you got to take off on the 356, which I
assume is the same as yours. Yeah, you've got to, yeah. Yeah. Without that
little bit on the end, it just doesn't sit in this in the spark plug
socket tool very well, but, you know, to drops in drops out of it too easy, right?
I was getting quite frustrated with this, especially in the ones where you can't
really see what you're doing. It's all on feel. And I solved that problem by
putting a blob of blue tack in the end of a spark plug socket and it works
like a dream now. Really? It's not a danger that you're going to end up
with blue tack down on one of the plug holes. I've actually as I've as
well, it's jammed in, it's in the socket, then you put the spark plug
in it, right? So it holds a spark plug in. And then when you pull the socket
off, I had had a look in the socket to see if all the blue tack is still
there because if it wasn't, I could still reach the blue tack and take it
off the end of the spark plug, right? True. You know, so yeah, it's not the
chance of going into the hole where the spark plug is, what would have
to happen is the spark plug have to fall out, rotate 180 degrees, hit the
head, and then the blue tack fall off and go in the hole. That's what
would have to happen, right? Which, yeah, don't get me wrong, that could
happen, right? But it hasn't. And it is made, it's actually made by
spark plug socket. So usable, right, at the moment, because it's so much
easier to get the plugs in and out with the blue tack in there. So it
was just I was sitting there racking my brain, what can I do? I was
going to try and glue, you know, because the rubber of the on the
inside of the socket was worn because it's an old spark plug
have the same problem, a different version in another five spark
plug changes. So anyway, blue text down the gel. Happy with that.
No, see, see, I the the plug that I have the sorry, the socket
that I use. It's it's got that rubber ring in the top of it
that's supposed to get that's what I'm talking about. Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, see, mine isn't worn. It's
come away from the socket. So it stays on the spark plug when you
pull a socket in, doesn't it? Exactly. And then you know,
sometimes you don't know until you go and do the next one and
you go hang on, this one's falling out. And you're like,
crap, I need to get that one back out. Yeah. Yeah, that was
happening in my spark plug socket in the early days. And I
superglued that rubber into the socket. See, yeah, that I mean,
I you send me the links to those radium spark plugs, by the way,
because I'm pretty sure mine's running on three cylinders. Yeah,
yeah, okay. I will I'll flick that through here. And you know,
I'll put it in the show notes because I know any listeners out
there with four cylinder porches will probably benefit from
these spark plugs. Yes, because I want to give it a go. Because
it I think they do foul. And my problem is I want to get it
fettled. But I can't do anything about my 912 at the moment
until I know what the damage is on my 916, which is going to
be huge. Because there's also I've been looking at exhausts.
Okay. For which for the 912 because it's leaking. Yeah. And
it doesn't look like it's in a great state. And I'm sure
there's a point where it's leaking, which isn't a join. So I
think it might be rusted. Can I tell you something which is
really frustrating about this conversation? God, in the early
days of my nine, I'm sorry, my 356. So I'm talking 13, 14
years ago. I my car had a very rusty muffler. So I thought
I'm going to replace that and a bought one online. Because
it had free freight. And it was coming out of the States
and I thought, my goodness, that's like 1000 bucks freight
to come Australia. I'm going to buy that's a bargain, right?
It gets here. It's a bloody 912 exhaust aftermarket. And it's
like, you know, the pipes and the muffler, right? And I've had
it ever since never been fitted other than finding out that
doesn't fit because it's a 912 one. The to my car. So it's
been up on the mezzanine for that long never fitted. And
if you if we live closer, I'll just give it to you and you
could bolt thing on and you're done. And with the and the
speedo. Yes. I'd already changed mine. I modified mine
now. So we could have solved two problems here, couldn't
we? I know, absolutely. Because it's but at the same time,
you don't want to look at stuff like that. Like if you're
looking at an exhaust for a beetle, for example, here we
go. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be peanuts, right?
And it's slightly different. And whereas it's looking at kind
of 900 quid. If I went for like an OEM one or a dance one.
Sure.
And it's one of those things where you just look at it's a
wear and tear item. You're not really modifying. I don't
really want a modified one. I've seen them, or I've heard
them on other people's cars. I don't you know, I don't
want the drone when I'm driving somewhere far.
I will say this about the modified exhausts, right? I've
played in that space with our engines. And that is definitely
a problem for some of the exhausts out there. But there are
options that are OEM plus. But there's a dance, like I've
got a dance sports exhaust on my 356 now, which is what
dance brought out for the, you know, for people that
fettled their 356s. So there are options out there that have
been developed over the last 60 plus years of, you know, of
finding the solution. And the other one that I haven't had
fitted, and I would, if my exhaust ever failed again, I
would probably fit a birch exhaust because a birch
exhaust have been, they have been around since, you know,
356s have been around. So they've been that finally
developed. And that's the exhaust that they recommend
whenever anything's been modified on any of those
engines. So anything that's 912 performance upwards, you
know, from say 100 horsepower upwards. So yeah, that's a
pathway. I'd be looking if I was to replace my exhaust
there again.
Yeah, see that? Because mine is, I want I'd be happy
for a sports exhaust that's slightly drowned out, obviously
the chatter of an air cooled engine. Yep. The standard
noise. But then I do let you know, I watch a lot of a lot
of videos where people are repairing modifying their
cars. So Matt Armstrong, for example, sure, every time he's
you know, restoring fixing a car, he wax on like a straight
pipe to something or other with flames coming out the
back. Yeah, yeah. And I'm kind of the kind of that kind of
thing. And I'm always like, oh, but yeah, that company, so if
it's a Ferrari Porsche or whatever, Lamborghini, they've
spent millions on getting the right exhaust for the right
performance for the right noise. They've measured it
decibels against what's allowed. And you go, do you
know what? I'm going to go OEM is on just on the very odd
occasion, someone's got an exhaust and you go, oh, that's
slightly OEM plus. Yeah, I'll take that. That's really nice.
Yeah. But a lot of people that I've known who've modified
the exhaust, they've all had the drone on them on the
motorway or the highway. Yeah, I don't have them on on my
dad's sport. Yeah, I guess, I mean, on an old car, I
guess this might be different, but these are all the modern
cars. Yeah, you look at that. Yeah. And like, you remember our
cars, we're talking about some old tech here. Like most of the
problems that go with any modification have been, you
know, resolved a long time ago. When people start back
yarding the stuff that hasn't been, you know, evolved is
probably where the most likely chance of getting those
problems out. That's that's what I think anyway.
Yeah, I know. And I think, yeah, so I think for me, I'm
thinking about new exhaust, but I've also got to think about
hang on how many nuts and bolts am I going to break taking
that off?
Well, it's only the only thing you're going to worry about is
your clamps to your front pipes.
Yes, the clamps and then it's then it's the and then that it
usually bolts straight to the head for the cylinders, you know,
two and four. Yeah. So if you don't get me wrong, that those
headsets could break or come off. You know, that is, that is
a that that's that deserves swearing in the workshop. Yeah,
if that one happens, the but it's a relatively
straightforward job. I look to get to the nuts, you've also
got to take off the tinware inside the engine bay to get to
the nuts on the top. No. But there's all but there's a
downpipe, isn't there? Like this is another point after the
head where they join, right? No. Oh, I might I don't know
there isn't that there's not in 356. So it may be in a
912. But I don't think so. I might be misremembering. I feel
like maybe it's there's a do you think there's a short pipe that
goes from the head to the muffler? I thought there was but I
might be misremembering because there's one real estate, you
know, it's a you got an extra probably an extra 150 mil 200
mil of space behind the engine before the back of the car
compared to a 356, which makes me think that there's a above the
tinware. One of the bolts is visible. And one is below the
tinware. No, no, that couldn't that couldn't be the case. I need
to have a look. I need to have a look. But anyway, that that's
what's been bothering me because if I want it sort of fine
tuned just on the carburetors without getting a rebuild on
them, or anything like that, just getting them fine tuned
exhaust has to be, you know, not leaking preferably. Yeah, and I
think I think it is leaking because that I get the backfiring
every now and again. And when I got underneath and had a look
there's you know, a bit of black soot. Yeah, okay. On a couple
of the on on the back box, there's a little bit of black
soot, but there's some of the joins as well. And I thought
you know what, if I just sort the joins out the sleeves and
stop the leak there, maybe that will make a difference, but
I've just never got around to it. And I'd have to get some new
clamps because I think the clamp that it's gotten doesn't fit
properly. They're cheap. That's a cheap. Yeah, exactly. You
know, the those things. Yes. I'd say, but people always talk
about exhaust leaks causing backfiring, right? Most of the
time that backfiring happens on our engines is back up
through the carbs, not inside the back box. Right? So that
backfiring can happen through bad spark plugs. You know, because
it ends up with too much fuel in there. And then when it goes
kaboom, it goes back up straight up through the valve.
Right. So there may not be the exhaust leak causing the
backfiring. Well, well, this is why I was thinking those
plugs, because I think my plugs might be a bit have a bit of
sort of whatever on the bit of uncle Richard. Yeah. And it just
run a bit too much fuel gets in before it's burnt. Yeah. And
that could all that that could also be carb tuning causing that
problem, right? Yeah, exactly. So it's it's a combination of
things. And I know where I want to take it. But it's
just it's getting to that point now where is it too late
in the year? But yeah, and he's expensive, right? He's going to
he's going to charge me a bunch of money. But it should get it
running as well as it can be with all the hardware that it's
got on it. Sure. Yeah, it's just it's just the 996 is the
variable that I can't handle. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's not
I think I think sit on it until you know. Yeah, all the
996 is a smart money here. Exactly. So and it's weird. It's
weird not having access to my 996. Like it's not been on the
driveway for a month. And you know, when my wife goes out
somewhere, she's taken the car. I forget that I don't have
access to another car unless I get the 912 out. Yeah. Yeah. So
it's yeah. So a lot of people have asked me, what's your cut
off? And what the cost of the financial cut off? Yeah, when
when's if if Jack says it's X amount of thousands. Yeah, what
is it? Yeah, what point do you say, forget it? That's just
done, bin it. And that's a really difficult question
because it's that car as it is now is worth more to me than
anybody else, right? Yeah, because whoever looks at it
is going to go, well, okay, it's a crusty 996 with a
broken engine. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas I'll be looking at it and
going, yeah, but it's firstly, it's mine and I've got an
emotional attachment to it. But also, you know, it's got all
the brakes are brand new, all the suspensions brand new,
everything it's got the biggest history file you'll ever
see. And that stuff is worthless to people buying a
car with a broken engine. So yeah, there is a middle
around here. Yeah, you become a home wrecker.
How do you mean?
You're not the only person that has to replace brakes and
suspension on a 996.
Oh, what just breaking up on my driveway? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh,
God, no, I wouldn't be a couldn't be any, I couldn't
not be any worse than what you've done in the past.
No, no, I get I get divorced. I'd
you might be getting a voice if you want to fix it.
Well, no, because that's that's the thing I was when it
first happened. My instinct was just to shove it in the
garage and leave it there. And again, my wife who speaks
sense said, it will be there for years, you know that
don't just go and get it checked out. And also, it's my
tolerance for how much is going to cost to fix is
higher. Because if I sold it now, I would probably still get
more money than I actually paid for it in the first place. Not
including any service. That's that's not the point here,
though, is it? No, it's not because that money won't get
me into another 911. Yes, that's right. And it's not
enough money for me to put against something else that
I'll go Oh, that's really cool. So and the money that I
would then spend on it now to fix it. And let's face
it, if I went for full engine rebuild, I'll be talking
what 767,000 pounds. There'll be a lot more money in there
here. But okay. So that would be, you know, I couldn't
get another 911 for that either. And but my another
variable is obviously when that engine comes out, there's a
bunch of things that come into play. Yes, of course.
clutch, timing chain guides, anything that involves
dropping the engine to do at some point in the next few
years, right? Exactly. Suddenly you go, I have to get all
of those things done. And the thing is, I mean, Jack was
really good about it. He did say to me, if you get the
timing chain guides done, and the rest of the work, and
you get a new clutch, he said it will drive like a new
car. Because I've been putting up with those timing
guides, not being right since I've had it. And you know, when
you floor it, and the oil pressure tensioners, tension
the chain, yeah, and gives you that extra performance
boost, I don't think I've been getting that. Well, it
doesn't actually give you the performance boost. It just
does what the minimum is supposed to do. Yeah,
exactly. So it doesn't it. So I feel like it will
drive a million times better. And it's obviously it's
had an awful idle ever since I've had it. Well, that's
probably as a result of the timing change. Yeah,
exactly. So it's always had a lumpy idle. Because the
timing chain is probably not tight or something or
other. If you say, okay, okay, I'm gonna I've got
the question. We want an answer. Me and the
listeners want an answer. Okay, 8000 pounds.
Are you doing it? Oh, I see 8. 8 is that in between
the number? No, no, it's a yes no answer. 8000. Jack rings
up and says, Hajmal, for you to pick this car up,
you're gonna have to bring an 8000 pound check.
Wait, I can't say it out loud, because if he's
listening, you'll go, hang on, I can get a grand
out of him. No, no. Jack's always been good to
me. 8000, I think, I'll go, I'll change this a
little bit. I'm gonna, I'm actually gonna change the
rules here a bit before you answer. Okay. 8000, and that
includes all while you're in this. Oh, okay, okay.
Because if you're gonna get it open, you're gonna do it.
If you're gonna get it out, you're gonna do it.
Like that's it. So I'm assuming the 8000 does
include you replacing the clutch, replacing your
rear main seal. Probably, if it's already had the
IMS done, it would have been done a long time ago, so
that probably still needs replacing anyway, so that'll
all be getting done at the same time, right? And if
it hasn't been done, you'll definitely do it while
you got it out. So, yeah, let's say 8000, is it a
yes or no? Yes. Nine grand.
Nine is more difficult because I could probably, if I looked
really hard, find another 996 for it. Yes or no. It's not
your 996. Oh, this is yes. Okay. 10 grand. No, no, that
10 is definitely. 10 is a mental threshold. Yeah,
because I could go and buy another one for 10 and
take the bits of my old one. And put them on that. Yeah.
And swap them over. All right, then so now you've got, now
all of a sudden, that when you think you're buying for
10s cost you 13 because of the labor that involved
in chocolate-raised bits over. I don't know, I'll do
that myself. Yeah. Self the first time. No, it's
not costing 13 because if I buy one for 10, yeah,
you can pay someone three grand labor to do all
that stuff to move it all over. You're gonna
take the old stuff off for the old stuff. I don't
know. I reckon I'd still get seven for my old one,
like broken one. With all the bits on it. See that,
okay, this even adds more on it because the bits you
take it off, the bad bits have got to be refitted
onto the bad car. Yeah. Yeah, I get 13 easy, right?
So 10s turned into 13 all of a sudden. We're
going down this part. Yeah, but take seven off and
it's six again. By seven is what you're going to get
for it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, I hadn't
considered that. Sorry. Yeah, that would be a
good argument. I like your logic. I think it'd
be a two-year project though. Yeah, exactly. That's
my problem. I just wanted to drive and it's
oh, I'm particularly broke at the moment as
well and this parking thing hasn't served,
sorry, the toll. It's charged up for,
the whole charge hasn't helped. But I do, I miss it
more than I thought I would. I thought, well, you
know, it gave me a bit of hassle with some of
the things that were wrong with it but I still
love driving it and I'd always forgotten how
much I love driving it until it was taken away.
Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, I reckon
you're going to have to find, I'm going to get a
limb here, 3,800 pounds.
3,800. Now, if that, if hard to find that, oh,
that would, that would be, if, you know what, if
that got it back to me, that would be amazing.
That's, that's my call. I reckon you're at
3,800. That's, I reckon that's what Jack's
going to ring you up and say. Or he's going to,
he's going to ring you up and say,
Ajmal, it's just this pipe, he's broken, it's only
86 pounds, we don't have to drop the engine.
How, how would it pump all the oil to, I don't
have logic here, I'm just trying to give you
some good news. I know.
Because you know, that's the thing that gives
me hope and it's, and you know, you know
when you support a football team, do you know
when you support a football team?
I do. We've just had our AFL Grand Final here
last weekend and my team was in it and lost.
It's like that. And you know what they always
say, the thing we always say over here is,
it's the hope that kills you.
I'm sure you have that hope.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you say, but I'm
sure you have teams that are notoriously
never winning the, the league, right, but
always look like they could.
Yeah. The, the people that go for that, look,
we got, I think we got two teams like that
in our league here, right. And I feel sorry
for those guys because they actually
will never win, but the supporters are
sitting there year in, year out, thinking
it's going to be our year. And they
give you these glimmers of brilliance
you think, my goodness, it's going to be
our year. This is fantastic. And then
the following week they get pummeled by
a bottom team.
Yeah, I think it's that. So I, I was, the
thing, the thing that gave me that, and
I'm sure it's false hope, is the fact
that there was no coolant in the oil.
And the oil was in the coolant.
So it's like a one-way valve, it's doing
its job still.
Yeah, because normally it's like the,
there's so much pressure in the coolant,
cooling system, I would have thought it
pushed it the other way.
Yeah, look, great. Are you serious?
Have you, I don't know, I'm just, I'm just,
I'm just cutting the straws, yeah.
Like I know the oil pump on my 356 has a
pressure valve for when you start it,
because the oil pressure just goes
through the roof when you start the
car, right? So there's a massive amount
of oil pressure straight away. So it
needs a valve to blow off the, that
pressure. And then it's sort of, when
it gets, once it starts running, it
can, that valve closes so that the
oil pressure sits at a normal thing.
So I reckon it's, you'd have a similar
thing in your car in the 996, but it
probably a lot more technical than the
one that's in an old-fashioned barely
post-war design. But the, yeah, okay.
Look, I'm sure, like all the listeners,
I'm going to be very fascinated
when I'm looking forward to hearing about it.
Well, I mean, I've just been
reminded now, because the problem
with the 996 happened when I was
on my way to and from Liverpool, and
I've got this fine penalty charge,
but a separate Liverpool journey.
So this has already contributed to that,
that, that bill?
Yes. Yeah.
It's very upsetting, but I don't know.
I just, you know, it feels like I've
not, I've not had much of the joy of,
you know, Porsche ownership recently.
Have you?
I don't want to put the jinx on it,
but I drove mine today a lot, and
we're in spring here, and it has sprung.
It is, every day is just an award-winning
moment, like the opening scene of the
Wizard of Oz. It's just perfect
outside, you know what I mean?
It's just incredible.
It is actually perfect today.
A perfect autumn day.
It's been, we've gone pretty well here.
We're going to see a solid half an hour
in here before we get to the weather channel.
I think it's more than, we've been more
than half an hour, and we're about 40
minutes in.
Yeah, okay.
So the, anyway.
Record.
No, but it has been stunning here the last week.
So yeah, the car's been,
all the cars are away for the weekend,
because we had a bank holiday weekend here.
No.
Just gone.
So it's, we went up north up to the,
up to Northampton, which is
600, 580, 600 kilometers north of here
for the weekend.
Just down the road.
Yeah, just get a liter of milk.
Yeah.
The, no, no.
It was, yeah.
So we did that for the weekend.
It was quite nice.
Went up on a Sunday, came home on a Monday.
And I schooled holidays as well.
So the, my daughter's up there
with her grandparents on the farm for the week.
And she says, yeah, it's very quiet in the house.
Amazing.
Children.
Yeah.
So over here, it's,
I mean, you've been out driving the car
because obviously your weather is perfect.
But we're, we've had the dry summer
and now properly into autumn.
So it's chilly in the morning,
but last few days it's been
gloriously sunny during the day.
Yeah, yep.
Still, you know, it's like 15 degrees, 16, 17 degrees.
Yeah, sure.
But if it's sunny, it makes you feel like it's more, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And I was thinking, oh, now is the perfect time to drive it
because it's not going to get too hot.
The temperature is just right.
I just need to get out.
But obviously I need to buy some new plugs.
Yes, yes.
The, let's talk portion use.
Okay.
So this last week,
Porsche announced that the,
they're reintroducing the internal combustion KN Boxster.
The Cayman is the combustion, the Cayman Boxster.
Yeah.
Which, you know, they was going to be replaced
by the first electric,
sports car that Porsche were planning.
They've now announced that the 718 will be,
its successor will also be available
as a combustion engine car, which was never planned.
But is that because demand for the product,
the market demand for the product is being so
low on electric across all platforms
that they're backpedaling like crazy.
So that's an interesting point
and not to jump too far, too deep into the topic.
But the thing with EVs,
this is my personal opinion.
So, you know, everybody don't shoot me down.
But electric cars, there's less things to differentiate them
between brands, types of cars and whatnot.
And of course, you can change, make software changes and things like that.
But the move to EV in Europe especially,
makes all of the European brands,
that makes them,
gives them the possibility of being less successful in the EV market
because the market is flooded by cheaper
and still decent Chinese EVs.
Sure.
So I really do think because when you think about the cost of,
you know, the sort of the depreciation that's hitting Mercedes, Porsche, VW, all of those,
the traditional ones, you know, Fiat, whoever it might be, Renault,
they are all being hit with that.
But also, it's the fact that the new purchase price,
especially if everybody is being told to buy them
and you've suddenly gone from, hang on, buying a really expensive VW, for example,
but I could buy a really cheap, I don't know, MG or BYD or something
or a Kia or a Hyundai,
then that surely puts these in danger of going out of business.
They're big European brands.
Yeah, look, I'm of a similar mindset to what a lot of the
automated journalists have been going on about for a while and that is
the consumer that the European Union is hoping will move to an EV
has historically bought the cheapest car they can find that will do the job they want.
And EVs to date or up until recently haven't been available as the cheapest option.
Yes, that's when a car is a tool
rather than a something that is a pride and joy, right?
When you're in the market for a tool, you want the cheapest tool to do that job.
Yeah, because it's not, yes, it's not, there's no emotion in this decision, it's financial.
Yeah, exactly. And it's not, and you're not getting it as a state's assemble,
you're not, you just want functionality.
Yeah, and the European brands, most of the European brands do offer vehicles
that are competitive in their price point. I'm talking about the internal combustion cars,
historically, you know, for the level of luxury or and or utility.
But introducing electrification has pushed those far above what the competitors are now
offering through. The European Union, they were able to tariff the Chinese cars to make them
as attractive as the European options. They had that choice to make, right? And they chose not to.
You know, they do it for clothing and there's a lot of Chinese products that get
tariffed to try and protect the manufacturer, European manufacturer of a lot of goods, but
they've chosen not to do it with the automobile. For whatever reason that is, I don't know,
that's a political thing that I don't know the nuances of the reasoning. However,
as a result of that, that lack of tariffing or protection of the European brand,
that's what's destroyed the European Union with regards to destroyed Europe's appeal or
competitiveness in that that segment. Because we're going to see my problem in Australia,
but we don't manufacture cars here anymore. So, you know, that's, as a result, no one's,
you know, the Tesla is getting hammered, which were historically the cheapest electric option.
But that's no longer the case with, I think there's something like seven or eight pretty big
Chinese electric brands. But even still, as my other cars are that cheap.
You can still buy combustion equivalents significantly cheaper.
Yeah, I think that's the same over here, actually. I think you can, you can still buy,
yes, I get that you can buy them cheaper. But it's just about that move. And you're right, it's not,
of course, it's going to get cheaper with the economies of scale, the efficiencies that are
going to build in when they start building them at a greater scale. But then I do think there
is also a level that they're going to stay at simply because they can. And a lot of that
comes from, you know, it's like inflation, right? When people say inflation is right down. Well,
the prices haven't gone down, the rate of their increases just come down. So, you know, if inflation
last month was 20%, those things are still 20% higher this month. They're just going up by a
lower rate if inflation is down. And I think it's a little bit of that where those cars are at
a level. Of course, there will, someone's going to come along and do a super cheap one.
But that's not going to happen until the combustion cars are gone, because
companies know there's a drive by governments to make you go and buy an EV.
You know, I'm not, I'm not, here's the rights are wrong. That's not the case in the US and
Australia. The government would prefer you bought one, but they're not incentivizing anymore.
Like today, listen, I know we're not going to publish this today, but we're recording this on the
here in Australia, 30th September. Today is the last day of the incentive available in the USA
for electric cars. It stops after today. So that's $7,500 that all electric cars are about
to go up in price. That's a lot of money, US dollars. So the cars are suddenly going to be
even more expensive because the incentives in one of the biggest vehicle buying nations in the world
have stopped. Australia has minimal incentives for electric cars. It's state-based, not federal,
so we don't, it's not the same everywhere. And that's why there's never been a massive
update. Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of Teslas here in Australia.
But I read an interesting article by a credible journalist in the Australian newspaper
on the weekend that throughout the statistic from new car buyers, 30, I think it was,
there's 31% of electric car buyers replace their electric car with a combustion car.
Which that's got to be a reflection. Like that's, to me, a third of all
electric car owners replace their car back too. Now, there's probably be numerous reasons.
You know, it could be range anxiety, it could be convenience, it could be whatever it is,
it could be costs, it could be depreciation, it could be a combination of all of them. But
for as long as, look, I just can't see the longevity unless they absolutely, the factories
have got too much profit in these combustion cars. Way too much profit.
Yeah. See, my problem with it is that in Europe, there's a mandate that-
That they've changed twice.
Well, they've changed twice, yeah. But there's still a hard stop on when you can,
you have to stop selling combustion engine cars.
But that date gets changed as well. It's been changed twice.
Yeah, it's been changed a couple of times. But there's also a ratio thing, I think,
somewhere about how many, what your carbon output or whatever it is.
Yeah, so things like Porsche, you know, they can still keep the 911 combustion engine forever
as long as they make X amount and sell X amount of EVs in all of their other ranges.
But I think there's also the thing that I still think, and I don't know,
we're probably boring everybody by talking about EVs. I just see Todd's going to write to me soon.
But the thing with EVs is I think something is still going to come out to say that the
impact on the environment of EVs is massively negative because the types of EVs that are
being sold, it's like we've lost sight of why we're shifting to EV.
You know, when you think about how big they are, how heavy they are,
tyres have to be specially made, roads are getting destroyed, and also the fact that
they're not efficient because back in the day when batteries weren't,
the battery technology wasn't as good. You know, it had to be super aerodynamic,
super lightweight, super thin tyres to maximise range. And what they're doing now is they're
saying, don't worry, make them massive, make them heavy, make them tall, wide, long, whatever it is,
massive tyres because the battery range is good. And how is that better for the environment?
I don't know. Because for me, if I wanted an electric car, well, if I thought they were
better for the environment and I thought that's what I'm going to do, I would probably have
a little, like a Honda E or a Fiat 500 E that would just, I'd be able to all do all my short journeys
and it would mean that I'm not burning all of that diesel, whatever it might be petrol.
And also, we're not putting out pollution in towns, villages and cities, but then when
you're doing your long journey, I could just dig out my old car that's got 200,000 miles on it,
that'll still get me up the road. Because when somebody said to me that, you know, oh,
you're driving a 3.4-litre, you know, 27-year-old Porsche, it's terrible for the environment,
you should be driving an electric car, that argument doesn't hold water anymore because
that car, my 996, someone else will be driving it. If I sell it and go buy an EV,
I'm asking a company to make me an EV and all of the pollution and negative climate impact that
ensues. And I go, well, great, now I'm driving an EV, but I've got to overcome all the negative
impact already. But also, someone else is still driving the car that I would have been driving.
And you've got to hang on suddenly. And that all depends after the phone call from Jack.
Yes, I'll just go and buy myself an EV. But it's that level of, you know,
even with my diesel Audi A3 with 205,000 miles on the clock, and that when people say, oh, well,
you should be driving an EV, that's an old diesel. It's being that those carbon or whatever
into the atmosphere, you think about it and go, well, hang on, like once again,
that car's probably going to do easily another 100,000 miles, someone else will be driving it.
It's only when the government says, actually, those cars are banned from ever being used that you go,
okay, well, we have to move. Which that day is never coming. Exactly. And so it's the
environmental impact of the change, but also of how we live with electric cars. For example,
you know, if you buy a brand new, you go and buy a brand new car from a dealership.
Let's say you bought a combustion engine, or no, an EV, VW ID, through your whatever it might be,
you're going to buy it on a lease plan. And in four years, they're going to turn around and go,
well, actually, we've come to the end of that lease, you need to give me 20,000 pounds,
all the car, or the car, or have another car and carry on paying. Now, what that means is
build another car. It's, well, yeah, they're going to build another car because that car
is probably worth 10 and not 20,000 by then because the depreciation that's hitting EVs.
And then you go, well, actually, now I'm going to ask you to make me another car. And you go,
well, actually, I haven't, you know, I haven't counted my EV use has not counted the
pollution that the build of it has created. I need to do 200,000 miles. I haven't done that.
So suddenly you go, well, actually, the whole problem is we're not using the cars long enough
as individuals to give the benefit to the planet, which then goes, well, hang on,
I should have just carried on driving my old car. And I don't know, there's just,
there's so many nuances and aspects to it that I just think that easy answer isn't,
it's better for the planet go and drive an EV. And I feel like I'm just going to hold out
until the data comes out to point it one way or the other because at the moment,
I know that I'm being better for the environment by not saying to whatever company, go and make
me a car. The environmental argument has two layers, right? There's the
carbon footprint of production and the carbon footprint of ownership or use.
The clean energy to charge it kind of thing or whatever. Yeah, whether it's
petrol or diesel or if it's electricity. To some degree, there's a bit of not in
my backyard going on when it comes to the use part because there aren't many countries
around the world where the majority of their electricity doesn't come from the burning of fossil
fuels. Be that either coal or natural gas. Yeah, they're by far and away the most two most common
methods of producing electricity at a global level. Sure, there is nuclear as well,
you know, places like France, Japan. However, the majority is still dirty
production to make electricity that there is work. Everyone's a lot of countries have
commendably working towards increasing that percentage of electricity produced through
renewable energy through wind and hydro and etc. Yeah, solar but
that we're our volume of use is so great compared to the amount that is actually made through
renewable. So that will be unlikely. We'll ever get to the point where there's no
fossil fuels getting used to make electricity. Yeah, so there is still what but what we are
deciding is where the pollution goes when we make electricity as opposed to it going everywhere
when the cars are burning it, right? Yeah, because it's the same principle, isn't it?
Do you remember the DPF filter? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the same thing where the DPF filter
would collect up all the whatever's coming out of the exhaust of a diesel car when you're
doing short journeys in towns. And the plan of the idea behind it was that you would
be on a long journey outside of town on the highway and blow all the stuff out.
Yeah, exactly. And the problem was some people didn't go on those long journeys and they all got
And then you go, hang on, I now have to drive down the highway in third gear
to heat up the exhaust of the filter. At 8,000 rpm, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you go,
this can't be the way forward. Anyway, that's enough EV talk. The point I was trying to come to
when we started this was Porsche are going back to their entry level sports cars going to have an
engine in it. Okay, so what's the release any more details? No, I believe because of how much
they're still saying they're going to build the electric version, but it's not going to be
July 2030 now, right? And I would be very surprised if they make a new chassis. I think they'll still
keep the 718 chassis, which is an evolution of the 981 anyway. Yeah, it's almost identical chassis.
So we're talking about a 2012 chassis that will get a facelift
to be the new Cayman Boxer, right?
It's going to be like the Macan has been a sales failure.
The new electric one. The electric one. Yeah. So there's a new, they've also now so
there's they're going to come back to combustion models here as well. But I think it's going to
be a hybrid is what from if I remember the outpost conference. Strange you're on the Macan because
people who have driven it have said it's really good. Yeah, look, of course it's going to be good.
The Taycan is good. They're great. They're great cars, right? They're comfortable. They drive nice.
Look, they're a bit range limited in the market, you know, against the other cars
significantly cheaper. But the quality of the product is very nearly justifies price.
Okay. So and look, the same could be said for BMW and Mercedes that, you know, the quality of the
product could almost justifies a price. But what Porsche have that those other brands don't have
is the price of their electric version because let's face it, a Taycan isn't that much different to a
Panamera. And they're comparably priced cars against each other. However, you've got a combustion
if you go out and buy an i3, you can buy an x3 and the x3 is cheaper than the i3, right?
So there's the comparison there of why should I buy the electric one when I can buy the combustion one.
That's true. Or you can just go and buy yourself a Gen 1 Panamera for like 8,000 pounds.
Yeah. Yeah. And listen, don't talk to me about electric depreciation unless you're going to accept
that any combustion-engined sedan of a European brand, if you think that's going to depreciation,
no, not as bad as your electric car, you're delusional. You go out and buy a new A8 and tell me
it's not depreciating as fast as your e-tron. Those things are poisoned when it comes to
depreciation. Ask any of your class owner. Yeah. Yeah. So those that I get, I get the big
but even because even the e-class Mercedes, they get hammered on depreciation.
Oh, yeah, that's true. Look, as practical as sedans and estates or slash wagons slash
events are, people are buying SUVs and not buying those things anymore.
Oh, fucking SUVs, because even Volvo stopped making estates, haven't they?
Yep. Well, they're going to. Yep. So terrible. Where do you agree or disagree? Because of the,
you know, the size of the vehicle, that sort of thing. The reality of the situation is people
are buying them. And most of these companies do office sedans and wagons, but they ain't buying
them. The consumer has the option in front of them. We looked at, we bought the GLC for my wife,
well, my wife bought the GLC. And she looked at the C-class station wagon. She said, I'm not driving
that little thing. I can't see anything out of it. Yeah. No, I get that. And it's,
so the. Because everyone else has got the SUVs. So yeah, because the demand is,
yeah, SUVs and small electric cars over here, SUVs and small electric, small EVs. And the,
and you're right, you know, an Audi A3 we've got is, I wouldn't have ever said that was a really
small car. But it is a small car now, because I'm on the motorway or highway. I'm on a local
country lane and you get stuck behind, you know, one of the new Volvos or a Mercedes or a Cayenne
or something. You can't see around it, can you? You can't see anything. You don't know if a car in
front of them is breaking. You don't know anything. And it's, you know, if you're parking next to one,
they're taking up the entire bay. Yep. So you're squeezing next to it. Any doors.
Yeah, exactly. So I think there's, you know, we noticed that in the UK more, because the UK
is, you know, it's where all of our roads are, you know, ancient. So they're not getting any
bigger. But the cars are getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And the roads, you know,
the roads are being used more, the wider part of the road is being used because a country lane,
the end of the tarmac is now breaking away, because cars are now running over that part of
it, and they're never used to. So I think, I don't know what the future is going to hold,
but it's, you know, I'm just going to stick with my, hopefully my 996 when he gets back,
and my 912, and my hatchback. Although the hatchback, my wife is now starting to make noises
about she doesn't like it. Oh yeah, okay. Talking hatchelags, I want to bring up a conversation
topic that has made me look like a fool. Well, one of many, but this one in particular,
I'm bringing up right now. Do you recall, we were talking about the most oxygen-thieving waste of
space hatchback ever designed by a European company, being the Lancia Ypsilom.
Oh yeah. Do you remember that conversation? Yeah, I do. Yeah, they're still everywhere in
Italy. You know that, don't you? Oh yeah, yeah. Well, hold my beer says Lancia. They bring out the Ypsilom
HF Integrale, a new return to WRC, and it looks like a modern take of the Lancia Delta Integrale,
but I'm telling you, this is an exciting look at my car, and they're building it to go racing.
This is the GA Yaris of Italy, and it looks amazing. Google it right now when I'm talking here.
Well, the thing is, the Lancia isn't a brand in the UK anymore. They don't sell new cars in the
UK. Okay, I can tell you now, when they build this car, it might be coming back because this is
in the sweet spot of what? The English love in a motor car. This is the car you want to
be driving around your English lanes is what I'm saying. Well, let's have a look. Ypsilom HF Integrale.
In 2025, let's see.
I mean, with the Martini livery, everything looks good.
Mate, it's unbelievable. Take my money. Where do I sign? Can someone tell me, where do I sign?
Because the standard one, I mean, looks kind of like a lot of modern cars, but it's the rally version
with the bumped-out bits. Yeah, look, this is the only one that you'd buy. Don't get me wrong,
but yeah, the rally car looks amazing. I just want to get out the record here and say,
maybe they can make a good looking car again.
I mean, front of mine's got two Lancia's. Delta's. No, full VIA. Oh, yeah, okay.
So, but when you look at it without all the livery and everything on, I'm a bit meh.
It's kind of just okay.
Push away. I wouldn't have said this about any other model of Ypsilom except this one,
even in bog stock livery in this one, but I think this is a genuine. This car could
genuinely compete against the GR Corolla slash Yaris and the Golf GTI slash Golf R in the market.
That would be interesting. Obviously, all the mock-ups that you see, obviously the rally one,
the main picture that they've released looks ridiculous. If you buy one of these and
don't fit white wheels, they shouldn't let you take the car off the lot.
There is that. I do like the one too, because obviously there's the Martini livery that everybody's
expecting. Then they've got the Alitalia livery on as well, which kind of plays straight into the
sweet spot of Lancia Delta's from back in the day, which is a hole in the market, right?
People want that kind of stuff. I think rally's coming back, Ajma.
Do you reckon? I think rally's going to be cool again.
I'm not so convinced. Actually, the whole thing about, I feel like,
endurance racing is having a bit of a moment. Yep. We'll look at the number of manufacturers
that are in it. Yeah, relative to a few years ago. Maybe rallying might do certain models like the
Yaris and the Corolla might do something and the Civic might do something for rallying.
I hope so. I hope so. I think the biggest problem with the rally cars today is their shape might
look like a Yaris, but internally, they're so far away from the Yaris. It's not that you buy,
it's not even close. I think that's going against it a little bit.
And, you know, endurance racing cars, they're not even close to reflective of what you can buy
on the road, except with the exception of the Aston Martin Valkyrie, which is the extreme, right?
That's true. So, and then you go to stock car racing in the States, NASCAR, those cars are
shaped like a Camry, but I've seen Camry's in the US. They don't sound like that.
Yeah, that is true. That is true. So, yeah, I think, but when you think about, you know, back in the
day of, you know, I want to talk mid to late 90s, WRC's Hay Day, early 2000s, those cars there,
they actually were the cars you bought. If you went and bought a WRX STI.
Oh, yeah, yeah. The Subaru's, the Mitsubishi's. Yeah, you're going to buy an Evo 4. It was,
with the exception of the roll cage and stripped out interior, one that much different from what
Tommy Macanum was winning in. Yeah, and the sleekers and stuff like that.
And I think, yeah, I think the Hay Day of those cars, the Hay Day of that racing category
or motorsport category is reflective of how close they are to what the fans could buy.
Yeah, whereas now it is quite distant. Yeah. What are we talking about? Sport? You want to talk F1?
No, we're going to save that for next time because I've got a, I've got a sad as it is. I've
got to go enjoy the meeting. That's a bad base, Dad, isn't it? That's just... Oh, look, it's okay.
So I get paid the big bucks, Ashmo. Well, I hope, well, no, I don't get paid the big bucks. I want
the big bucks. This is why you spend the big bucks. Oh, no, that's the 996. That's why you spend
the big bucks. Exactly. And everyone's going to say, yeah, but you're going to spend all
that money. But the problem is it's still going to be a 996.
Look, the world's coming around to them. Well, no, people have been saying that for 10 years.
No, no, 996 owners have been saying that for 10 years. Everyone else is starting to come along with
it because I don't know how expensive vehicle cars are getting. Right. And yeah, true. 997s are
really just pretty in 996s. Well, yeah. So I thought about getting a 997,
like if I just replaced my 996 with a 997 simply because I think it's just a bit more comfortable.
It's a bit more drivable. My wife will drive it because it'll be easier.
What do you think can be easier about driving a 997 than a 996?
If they both just say and speak. No, I think the gearbox is a little bit slicker. The clutch is
lighter. You're going to get an early car, don't you? You're 996. You've got cable.
Yeah, everything's cable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's 998. Sure. So, you know, everything's a bit,
but all the things that I like about it, she's going to be like, oh, this is just rubbish.
Yeah. So I did think about it, but then, you know, there's the bore scoring, and then there's the
whatever IMS on that one as well. The gen 1.1. The one you'd be out of forward.
Well, the one I'd probably want. But then I did look at, I still think a 991 is such
good value at the moment. Let's talk about that in the next episode.
I've changed my tune on 991s, and I will tell you all about it next time.
Yes, I look forward to it. So, listeners, I'm sure you're going to have some commentary and feedback
for Ajmal and I on our little EV, Suzy and we just went on, combined with Ajmal's flawed logic
with his car. Don't hesitate in reaching out to either of us at Flat Cap Driver,
at Mark and Cars, at Mark of the Sea. We really hope you're listening from behind
the wheel. Ajmal, I'll catch you next episode. Catch you next time.
About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds as hosts Hajmal and Mark delve into the challenges of owning a Porsche 996, particularly regarding repair decisions and costs. They share personal anecdotes about their cars, including Hajmal's ongoing issues with coolant and oil mixing, and the emotional attachment to their vehicles. The conversation also touches on the state of the automotive industry, especially the shift towards electric vehicles and the implications for traditional combustion models. With humor and camaraderie, they explore the complexities of car ownership, maintenance, and the evolving market landscape.
The boys have a catch up with the main discussion point being how much should or shouldn't Ajmal spend to fix his 996, now there is oil in the coolant?
The quote isn't in yet, but there is a lot of uneducated speculation!
This might be a turning point in the life of UK's crustiest 996...