“Bed sides” are the panels on the left and right of a pickup’s cargo box. If those are dented or rusted, the truck looks and functions worse, so replacing them helps restore the bed.
A “reproduction bed” is a brand-new truck bed made to look like the original one from an older truck. It’s often used when the original bed is too damaged to save.
A “four door conversion” means turning a truck that originally had two doors into one with four doors. That usually takes a lot of metalwork so the doors line up and open/close properly.
A “modern chassis” means they put the classic-style body onto a newer truck frame. That can make the truck drive better and be safer than using the original old frame.
Term
body on there
Here, he’s basically saying that the “body” is what gives away which kind of four-door conversion it is. If it looks like their work, it probably uses their cab/body parts.
Concept
married them together
He’s talking about an old-school custom method where someone combines parts from two different cabs to make one truck. You can often tell because the fit and proportions don’t look like a purpose-built conversion.
A crew cab is a pickup with four doors, so passengers can get into the back seat more easily. It’s the “bigger cab” style compared to two-door versions.
“Re-body” means changing the truck’s body—usually to keep the original style but make it work with newer parts. Think of it like using the classic look, but building it on a more modern foundation.
A “Power Wagon cab” is the front part of a Dodge Power Wagon—the part with the seats and dashboard. Here, they’re putting that classic cab onto a newer truck frame so it still looks like the old Power Wagon but can be built on newer hardware.
A “late model chassis” is the newer truck frame they build on. It helps the project work better because newer frames are easier to integrate with modern parts and systems.
“TRX” is the performance Ram pickup. In this build idea, they’re using that kind of modern, strong platform under the classic Power Wagon cab so the finished truck can still drive well.
A “laser weld” is a welding method that uses a laser to join metal parts very precisely. They’re saying they use this process to assemble the cab pieces.
A “component car” is basically a vehicle assembled from big parts or a kit, not just bought as a complete factory car. The host is saying their setup can be treated like that kind of build.
Dynacorn makes replacement body parts for classic cars. In this conversation, it’s mentioned because buying reproduction body panels can cost a lot—similar to the price point they’re discussing.
A Camaro is a classic Chevrolet muscle car. They’re using it as another example of the kind of car people spend money on for restoration or custom bodywork.
“Gauge” here means how thick the sheet metal is. They’re saying the original-style builds used thicker metal than what you’d find in typical, everyday replacement panels.
16 gauge is a way to specify how thick the metal is. The host is saying they’re using the same thickness as the original parts, not a thinner substitute.
Term
McGee wire edge machine
This sounds like a specific shop tool used to create a “wire edge” detail on metal panels. The host is saying it’s the same kind of technique used back in the day, so the result looks and fits more like the original.
Knurls are a textured pattern on metal. In this case, they’re describing the look/finish of the wire-edge detail so it matches older factory-style work.
Term
laser straight
It means the truck’s body panels are lined up perfectly, with no crooked lines or wavy surfaces. A good shop measures and adjusts the panels so the gaps and shapes look straight to your eye.
“Fit and finish” is how well the car is put together and how nice it looks—like even panel gaps and straight lines. If the gaps are off or the surfaces look rough, people notice it.
“Patina’d” means the vehicle has an older, worn-in look on purpose—like natural fading and surface wear. People often accept small flaws on a patina-style build, but they expect perfection after a new paint job.
Door gaps are the thin lines of space around the door where it meets the body. If they’re even all the way around, the truck looks more precise and “put together.”
Vintage Dream Machine is a shop/company that takes a kit and turns it into a finished truck. In other words, they do the real build work after the parts are supplied.
“Desert power wagons” are Power Wagon-style trucks built for driving hard in desert terrain. They’re usually set up to handle bumps and loose ground better than a stock truck.
“Legacy Power Wagon” means the classic, traditional Power Wagon spirit—what people associate with the original off-road truck. It’s basically the history and reputation that today’s builds are trying to honor.
The steering column is the part that connects your steering wheel to the rest of the steering system. If it’s old or damaged, it can break, and it may not work well with newer aftermarket parts you want to install.
A wiring harness is basically the car’s electrical “wire bundle” that connects everything together. If you’re building or restoring a project car, upgrading it can prevent weird electrical problems and makes it simpler to add modern parts.
Aftermarket wiring refers to non-factory electrical wiring solutions used when you add or replace components outside the original manufacturer setup. Compatibility matters because older steering columns and wiring layouts may not integrate cleanly with aftermarket electronics and connectors.
Concept
street rod world
The street rod world is the hobby and subculture focused on modifying older vehicles for street use, often with extensive fabrication and electrical integration. It’s relevant here because builders who cut their teeth in street rods may have the experience needed for complex project-car upgrades.
A universal steering column is an aftermarket part meant to work in many different cars. It can be modified (like shortened) so it fits your specific project.
Turn signals are the lights that blink to show you’re turning or changing lanes. When you change the steering column, you may also be changing how those signals are wired and controlled.
A tilt column means the steering wheel can move up/down or forward/back a bit. That helps you sit comfortably and reach the wheel better—especially in older cars.
Concept
World War II WC
The “World War II WC” refers to a type of military truck used during WWII. The speaker is saying the later Power Wagon design traces its roots back to that original wartime truck.
“46 to 68 body style” means the truck’s outside shape stayed basically the same from the mid-1940s through the late 1960s. The speaker is highlighting how unusual that is for a vehicle line.
A synchronized transmission helps the gears match speeds before they lock together. That makes shifting easier and smoother than older transmissions that could grind if you weren’t careful.
A crash box is a transmission without synchronizers, so the gears don’t automatically match speeds. You usually have to use careful shifting (often double-clutching) to make the shift go in cleanly.
Term
slamming bands
“Slamming bands” refers to harsh, rapid engagement of band-type clutches/brakes inside some transmissions. It’s a technique associated with quick, forceful gear changes—often discussed in the context of older or heavy-duty gearboxes.
Double-clutching is a shifting technique where you use the clutch twice to help the gears match speed. It makes it easier to get into the next gear without grinding, especially on older transmissions.
Concept
crank the windshield out
It sounds like the truck’s windshield can be opened or tilted outward. That’s a cool old-truck feature that helps with airflow and gives the cab a more open feel.
The Dodge Power Wagon is a tough, old-school Dodge truck that people love for its rugged off-road and work-ready vibe. At car shows and rallies, people often talk about the truck itself more than the brand name.
A Unimog is a super-capable off-road truck made by Mercedes-Benz. People compare it to other tough “work truck” machines because it’s designed to handle rough terrain and heavy jobs.
Front doors are the main doors on the cab of the truck. Restoration shops often make replacement door parts so the truck looks right and seals properly.
The windshield surround is the metal/trim area that holds and frames the windshield. If it’s rusted or damaged, replacing it helps keep the cab sealed and looking correct.
A "narrow body" build keeps the truck’s body closer to the original width. It’s often chosen when you want a more stock look or when the wider setup isn’t necessary.
A "wide body" means the truck’s body panels are made wider than stock. People do it to make room for bigger parts or to help the truck’s cooling system work better.
A "nine inch wider front nose" describes a specific front-clip width increase used to create extra space for cooling-related hardware. More front-end width can allow larger radiators and better airflow paths, which matters when packaging a modern chassis or upgraded cooling system.
In a custom truck build, "cooling" refers to the system that removes heat from the engine and other components. When the host mentions cooling packaging, they’re pointing to how radiator and airflow space is planned to prevent overheating under load.
In car A/C, the "condenser" is a part that helps dump heat outside the car. That’s what allows the air-conditioning system to keep working and actually cool the cabin.
Term
HAC
"HAC" here sounds like an abbreviation for a heating/air-conditioning-related part. It’s mentioned with the condenser, which is part of the A/C system, so it’s likely related to how the truck manages cabin heat and cooling.
Term
50 semi
A "50 semi" sounds like the builder’s preferred replacement engine option. They’re saying that if the current engine ever fails, they’d swap in that specific kind of engine.
The Dodge Ram is a large pickup truck made for work like towing and hauling. People talk about it because different versions can be set up for different jobs. In the podcast, it sounds like they’re referring to a specific Ram style or model.
Brand
little red ram
"Little red ram" is a nickname for a Chrysler/Mopar engine. The host is saying that, if they had to replace the engine, that particular engine would fit better in the truck.
Chrysler is the carmaker. In this segment, they’re talking about using a Chrysler engine as an alternative replacement if the current motor ever fails.
Remote start is a feature that lets you start the engine from a distance using a key fob or app. The speaker is framing the build around buyers who want convenience—starting the truck before driving off to places like a coffee shop.
Heated and cooled seats let you warm up or cool down your seat. It’s a comfort feature that many newer trucks include as part of a fully equipped package.
A “bead” is the weld’s finished line of melted metal along the joint. The speaker is saying that with practice, you can keep that weld looking consistent.
The Jeep Wrangler is a small SUV designed for off-road driving. It’s built to handle dirt roads and rough terrain better than many regular cars. The podcast mentions it as part of the speaker’s past interests in different types of vehicles.
The Jeep CJ is an older Jeep model that was made for off-road use. The podcast is saying the speaker didn’t like the smaller CJ-style Jeeps compared with other vehicles they preferred. It’s mentioned mainly to explain what they were interested in at the time.
Winslow, Indiana is the small town where the speaker grew up. He says it was so small that certain trucks he later became interested in weren’t around.
That means the truck’s electrical system runs on 6 volts instead of the more common 12 volts today. It can make the truck harder to keep running with modern parts unless you convert or source the right vintage components.
Carburetors are older-style parts that feed fuel into the engine by mixing fuel and air. They can be harder to tune and keep running than today’s fuel-injection systems.
“4BT” is a specific kind of diesel engine (a small turbo diesel) that people often swap into older trucks. The idea is to make the truck easier to drive and more dependable without destroying the original body.
“Carry-all” just means the vehicle is meant to carry stuff—cargo and sometimes people. Here, they’re talking about a classic military utility Jeep/Willys built for hauling rather than everyday commuting.
“Stamp” means pressing sheet metal into shape using a die. It’s a way to make panels consistently, especially after you’ve paid for the custom pressing tools.
Here, “tooling” means the custom machines/dies used to press and shape metal parts. It costs a lot at the start, so it can take years before the project pays back that initial cost.
Barn doors are rear doors that open in two halves, like the doors on a barn. They can make it easier to load and unload things from the back of a truck or van.
A clamshell is a rear hatch/door that opens upward like a clam. It’s another way to access the cargo area, different from doors that swing open sideways.
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Hey, Stacey David here with the Tales of the Gearhead podcast.
Now, this is a podcast about everything automotive,
everything mechanical.
You're going to get advice.
You're going to get ideas.
You're going to hear guests.
You're going to hear people that are just like you.
Everything is going to be wrapped around the automotive lifestyle,
so we know you're going to love it.
Today's podcast is brought to you by I Did It and Kicker Audio.
All right, let's get rolling.
All right.
Welcome to the Tales of a Gearhead podcast.
You know, one question I get a lot is that people are like,
how do I start my own business?
How do I get into doing something?
And what do I do?
These are really good questions.
A lot of times your business comes out of something
that you're just passionate about.
Case in point, got a buddy of mine here today.
His name is Matt Tisdale.
And he owns Tisdale Coachworks.
And he's in Winslow, Arizona.
He's done all eagle songs.
I was in Winslow, Indiana.
And Matt, welcome to the podcast.
Thank you.
Now, obviously you do a lot of metal work.
You do some really great work.
But the big thing that you focus on is power wagon parts,
which is near and dear to my heart.
So let's talk about how you got into it.
Did you just one day decide why the power wagon?
Well, falling in love with them in 03
and driving all over the West Coast everywhere to pick them up,
the beds were all beat up.
And we needed sheet metal.
So I decided to reproduce the bed sides
because I had 25 of them lined up on a tennis court
at a home in Western Kentucky.
And I thought, man, we got to have these.
And at the time, a beat up bed was $2,000, $3,000.
Oh, yeah.
So I mortgaged the house, went completely nuts.
My buddies all said I was crazy.
What'd your wife say about that?
She dealt with it, you know?
It's part of the addiction of all this,
resurrection of this sheet metal.
So that is where it started.
And it's been going on 23 years now.
And now you guys not only do a reproduction beds
and fenders for power wagons,
you also do complete cabs, correct?
Yeah, we do the four door conversion.
We do a complete stamped new sheet metal body
in either the normal narrow width
or a nine inch wider cab that fits on modern chassis.
So when you see somebody that's got like a four door power wagon,
that's probably your body on there.
It typically is, yes.
There's still some guys that did what I did way back
and took two cabs and married them together
and you can usually tell.
Yeah, well, you can't find two cabs anymore.
No, no, they're all gone.
Yeah, that's a big question because, you know,
the power wagon was not the most popular truck.
So what made you think about investing in a truck like that?
That's kind of a limited resource, don't you think?
I just think it was the love I fell for it.
Yeah.
You know, it just had me.
Yeah.
And I just wanted to see more on the road.
You know, one of my dreams was like,
maybe my daughter one day when she gets her license,
she'll be cruising down one of the interstates
and she'll be like, man, there goes a power wagon.
I wonder if that's his crew cab or his bed sides
or running boards or fenders or something.
So it just, it spiraled out of control, really.
Yeah.
I mean, there were years that I earned $3 an hour,
you know, on trying to establish this.
Of course, now they've become the truck.
Yeah.
Everybody loves it.
And I'll tell you what, one of the things that was very interesting
about what you did is that you had the insight to move forward
and start offering bodies so guys could re-body them
and put the power wagon cab on a late model chassis.
Talk about how that came about
because that keeps them moving forward.
It keeps the truck alive because, as you know,
they built 90,000 of them.
Yeah.
How many are left?
Very few.
So having the love I have for the truck,
I want to keep doing it.
Yeah.
So they're eventually going to run out.
You're not going to need a bedside for this 48 here.
You know, they're going to be used up.
So I thought that's widen the cab,
make it to where we can fit it on a modern Ram chassis,
a TRX, whatever, and keep it alive
and keep our business alive at the same time.
Yeah.
And how has that been going for you?
It's been going great.
Yeah.
Yeah, we supply a lot of the big builders in the country
and they are finishing them out very nice.
Yeah.
So what kind of, if a guy is sitting there
listening to this going, you know,
I kind of like to have a power wagon cab
on my late model Dodge truck.
What kind of money is he looking to do this right?
You know, a bear kit can be anywhere from $13,000 to $20,000.
That's not bad at all.
You know, there's a lot of tooling invested.
There's 1000000 pounds of tooling.
And it's not something that you can just pick up
with your little forklift and move around.
It's a power wagon.
It's big stuff, you know.
So, you know, then we do kits where I'll assemble a cab
and we laser weld them all together, which I absolutely love.
Yeah.
And, yeah, and then we do different wheel base versions.
You know, we offer a 68 bed and a seven
and the typical eight foot like what you got on this unit here.
But see, that puts you right in the pocket of everybody else
because that takes it into what would be called a component car
or a kit car kind of thing.
Right.
And see, with that price point that you just said,
that puts you right in what a guy would spend on a Cobra
or what he would spend on doing a Dynacorn body.
Right.
On a Camaro or something like that.
So, you're not out of line on that.
I have to tell you, man, I have seen a lot
of reproduction sheet metal.
Your stuff is not only spot on,
but anybody that's ever messed with a power wagon,
they didn't use just regular gauge metal.
Right.
Super thick.
Yeah.
So, you're using the same sort of weld techniques,
the same sort.
Let's talk about your front fenders
and the wiring that you use in the front.
16 gauge, just like original.
And it has the McGee wire edge machine.
Yeah.
The wire ran through with the same little knurls
like Henry Ford and all of them had back in the day.
Yeah.
And that machine is designed to run,
I want to think, a mile of wire in one shift.
Can you imagine how fast that machine's running?
Oh, man.
I don't do that.
I've got it on a VFD.
I don't want the humps and bumps
like the original power wagon fender had in it.
I want it to be smooth and fluid form.
So, it's just a cool process.
Yeah.
Far the machine up, the guys come in and they're like,
oh, that's so cool and then they're back to work, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Now, let's talk about that.
How you keep, obviously, if a guy's doing a power wagon,
most of the people want to keep it original looking
because they were so cool.
And yet, you are making parts that are as good
or superior to original.
So, how do you balance that?
In other words, if you make a power wagon part
that's too smooth, it looks too street roddy
and it's not right.
So, where's that balance?
You know, you may need one of your Cornwell hammers
or something to kind of ding it up a little bit.
You know, I'm a big player on form and function.
So, I want the body line to be laser straight
whereas you see that the doors drop down
a quarter of an inch on this truck.
That's part of the heritage of it.
They're all like that.
Some will be dead perfect.
But I want everything to be streamlined.
So, we are pulling a little bit of the crude craftsmanship
of the 40s, 50s and 60s on these away from it.
But as you're navigating down the road,
nobody's going to notice that.
They're just going to see just a cool, clean ride.
Yeah.
And most people now have gotten used to expecting
a little bit of fit and finish.
Yes, they do.
You know, unless the truck is completely patina'd like this
and kind of falling apart, that becomes acceptable.
But when it's something, you put a nice paint job on it,
people will naturally run a finger down a line
and your eye will naturally go to something
that's not lining up.
Right.
So, I think that's really cool.
I expect perfect door gaps and all of that.
And knowing what it's supposed to look like
and making your hands do it
seems to be a challenge at times.
You know, and there's a lot of very talented people out,
finishing these trucks out.
You know, there's a company here in Nashville
that's actually taking our kits and turning them into...
Is that the place down in Lewisburg?
Vintage Dream Machine.
Yeah.
Awesome guys, good to work with.
And the other, you know, it's desert power wagons.
Yes.
They buy a lot.
And of course, going back to the roots,
legacy power wagon.
Yeah.
He's the guy that put me into business.
It was a hobby and he'd be like,
hey, I want a crew cab.
Can you make me a crew cab?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And like I told you earlier,
the first one was a complete disaster.
I cut it back apart.
You know, I sold to a friend in Canada
and then he wanted the shorter wheel base
and I had built one.
So, I'll trade you out of that.
So, he did and then I sent him a picture
about six hours later when I got home with it,
showing it all blown apart.
Yeah.
Then I did the symmetrical rear door
and feel like that.
We're trying to create something that Dodge
would have created in the 40s, 50s and 60s.
You know, instead of something that looks
like a cab jam behind a cab.
Yeah.
So.
You know, I really appreciate that too
because a lot of people think
that when you go into business,
you do everything perfect from the very beginning.
No.
And you don't.
You learn, you get better.
You adapt.
So, what advice would you give to somebody
if they're looking to get into business?
Either, you know, as a mechanic
or starting a parts place or a detailing business
or anything like that.
What advice would you give to them?
I would say stay very enthusiastic about it
and that enthusiasm will drive you to succeed.
You got to love what you're doing.
Don't worry about the money.
Yeah.
Years and years went by and I mean,
it was maybe 12 grand a year.
I mean, I dumped everything back in.
I paid myself the bare minimum.
Yeah.
And just kept dumping it back in.
And you know, there's just three of us in the shop.
We're in an old Ford dealership and we love it.
You know, it's all vintage, cool.
Yeah.
We walk in and there's a roll of these being produced.
Yeah, I would say that's what you need to do.
Ambition to be ambitious.
Yeah.
Watch your number.
Keep your family happy, you know.
You know, one question that I get a lot
is what are some of the most important upgrades
that a person can do to a project?
Whether it's a high-end project
or just to get it running and driving kind of thing.
Are there a few things that you recommend
that pretty much everybody has to do?
And there are.
There's two for sure.
One is a wiring harness and one is a steering column.
Now, you might be thinking wiring harness,
that's obvious, but what's a steering column thing?
Well, the problem with old steering columns is that they break.
They're not compatible with most of the aftermarket wiring
and components that you're going to be using.
Putting in an aftermarket steering column
is really a wise thing to do.
And the guys that I did it have been doing this forever.
Now, they started in the street rod world,
but don't make the mistake of thinking that their applications
are just street rod, hot rod, that kind of thing.
They also have direct bolt-in columns for muscle cars.
They've got them for four-wheel drive vehicles.
They've got universal columns that you can shorten.
That's what I put in Sergeant Rock.
I've used their columns for years,
and they are one of the staples that I recommend
that somebody puts in pretty much any vehicle,
because it's what you're holding on to.
It's what controls a lot of your wiring,
your turn signals, whatever you've got it set up for.
And it's nice to be able to put a tilt column into an old vehicle.
If you're upgrading your vehicle,
if you're getting ready to drive it on the road,
you may want to think about a steering column.
And if you do, check out I Did It.
You'll be happy with what you find.
You know, most people know that I was a professional musician
for a number of years,
so when we get to talking, usually music comes up.
And of course, having a good sound system in a project car
is always paramount.
I mean, the first thing you do is get in the car
and crank up the stereo and listen to that song.
And for everybody, that song's a little different.
But one thing that's for sure, the sound system has got to kick.
And if you are looking to upgrade your sound system,
I don't care if your vehicle is an old classic
or if it's something new,
you need to check out kicker audio, man.
These guys, they kind of invented the killer car stereo back in the day.
And they continue to have innovations and stuff
to take a stereo system where we want it to go.
It's all in their name, kicker.
I mean, I remember when I first got my first kicker parts back in the day,
I was like, man, I got kicker stuff.
People are like, man, that's kicking stereo.
So if you want to take your stereo system to the next level,
check out kicker. You will not be disappointed.
Wife, do you have a couple kids?
Yeah, I've got a daughter.
It's just totally awesome.
So how did you balance that?
Because that's tough sometimes.
You know, I made a lot of mistakes.
I worked too much.
And I told the shop guys, I said family first.
And it was seven days a week in the stone quarry
and then playing on trucks and then driving, you know, 80,000 miles or so
the first year, 80 again.
There were a lot of trips that Maya went with us.
Yeah.
And it was awesome.
But, you know, like I said, up late at night
or of an evening after work,
watching an episode of American Pickers
and maybe a rerun of one of the fabulous trucks or gears shows, right?
So, yeah, there's been a lot of mistakes
that I tell my guys, which are my family and my friends
obviously two guys that work beside me,
don't do what I did.
You know, family first and just...
Balance it, yeah.
You have to.
It's a 45 hour week for those guys
and it's an hour and a half lunch
of just chill and relax and efficiency.
Yeah.
You've got to be efficient with what you're doing.
Absolutely.
Now, why do you think the power wagon is so popular?
I mean, what is it about the power wagon?
Absolute pure American heritage.
It's got testosterone dripping from it.
I mean, it's just...
You can smell it.
Yeah, it's a spinoff from the World War II WC.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's the straight DNA from it.
It's...
I don't know.
I made a joke, as I said earlier.
You know, I always used to kind of look at it
and be like, man, I wish Ford built this
because I love my Ford trucks.
Yeah.
But this is the coolest vintage truck in history
on the planet.
You know, and we had talked about this before.
I always looked at the power wagon
kind of in a place by itself.
You had the Ford Chevy and Dodge trucks
and they kind of followed the trends
of the years and the eras.
But the power wagon remained unchanged
and it's just that thing.
It was like there's all those trucks,
then there was the power wagon.
You even said it different, the power wagon.
46 to 68, that body style.
Yeah.
It stayed exactly the same.
A couple bed changes.
Yeah.
Engine went to 251.
You know, synchronized tranny,
which you got the crash box in this bad boy.
You know, slamming bands and double clutch
and going down the road.
But it's, you know, you crank the windshield out
and you run into a big hive of bees
or something and you get to swat them out.
I don't know.
It's just something about it.
And you're right.
You know, it's a lot of people to show up at a rally.
You know, they don't go,
oh man, what a cool Dodge power wagon.
They leave the Dodge part out.
They're like, man, that power wagon is so cool.
You know, and that seems to be,
and like I said earlier,
age of reason, 56
all the way up to 125 years of age,
everybody seems to gravitate to the power wagon.
There's something about them.
They're just, you know,
the only other vehicle I can think of
that's kind of like that is a Unimog.
Yeah.
And it's funny because they were kind of competitors.
You know, something Mercedes was trying to do,
build a tractor truck thing.
Yeah, same thing.
Always like the Mogs too.
45.
But they're not quite as macho as these things.
That big old winch hanging off the front.
The sheet metal on a Unimog
is nowhere near comparable to this.
You know, it's just a bad piece of American history.
So what all parts do you make?
Obviously, I've got your bedside,
your rear bedside.
I've got your running boards.
I've got your brackets, your front fenders,
your rear fenders.
What else do you make for the power wagon?
We do the original size front doors.
Yeah.
And then the four doors for the crew cab
and the front windshield surround
and cowl and cab back.
And we do a narrow body cab back.
You know, I've told you about the wide body.
Being able to fit on a modern chassis and all that.
That's why we jumped into that.
Hoping to keep the truck alive
because as you know, there's only so many of them to exist.
So we also do the narrow also.
You know, that truck in a narrow.
There's guys out there that just like,
oh, you know, I got to have the old needle nose,
you know, because our new wide body
is at a nine inch wider front nose
and stuff to accommodate all the cooling,
HAC, condenser and all that stuff.
See, I like the old look like that,
but it is very limiting.
Matter of fact, I have been talking to you about that.
I've got the original straight six
and this one we're doing on the show
and plan to keep that for a while.
But if that motor ever goes down,
the only other thing I'll put in it is a 50 semi.
Either a little red ram, which would fit better
or a Chrysler, but it needs to be a 50 semi.
And in doing with the Chrysler,
I'm going to run into problems with the inner fenders
because they're so wide.
And I don't want to cut it up.
So, you know, you face that,
but you're familiar with that kind of stuff.
That is why we took the other path.
Yeah, to widen them out and have a vehicle
that will appeal to what I call the key fob guys,
you know, the guys who just want to remote start their truck
out in Montana or Ranch or something
and take off and head for the coffee shop
or head to New York City, wherever they want to go.
Navigation, heated cooled seats, everything.
The whole thing is completely loaded.
So what is your background?
How did you get into metalworking and cars and stuff?
Did it just something you just grew up with or what?
You, the enthusiasm.
I mean, you are definitely part of the instrument
that pushed me into all of this.
Oh, that's awesome.
That is.
And then, you know, my first...
Just self-taught, though?
Yes, self-taught.
My first job, I told you earlier, I was a garbologist.
Yeah.
Worked at a landfill.
Yeah.
It doesn't exist.
It was just something funny to tell my friends.
But an old timer, you know, I went in
and had limited fabrication skills.
Yeah.
Limited welding skills.
You know, I remember the first time I picked up stick welder.
And Wayne, the guy that mentored me,
you know, he was like a second father.
Yeah.
And he said, just strike it like a match.
Like, what's he talking about?
Strike it like a match.
Yeah.
We had...
Yeah.
You had a cigarette lighter.
Big lighters.
I never smoked or anything.
I lit many campfires.
We never struck it like a match.
I'm like, you know, finally I got it.
Yeah.
You know, and after you've weld a few hundred pounds of seventy-eight teens,
you eventually can just flip your hood up
and look at the guy next to you
and still lay the same bead if you'd have been paying attention.
Yeah.
But he taught.
And then, you know, watching you on the weekends and giving...
Get out and build something, you know?
Just get off your couch.
And I was in the Willys trucks and station wagons,
never really into the little CJ Jeeps,
all these wagons and trucks.
Yeah.
And I asked...
In the same way.
I asked my dad, like, when I got into those,
how come you didn't tell me about the power wagons?
See, because they weren't around where I live.
Yeah.
You know, we live in a little small town, Winslow, Indiana.
There's nobody home.
Yeah.
Lights are on, nobody's home.
So, it's, I don't know, it's...
We didn't see them until I was in Evansville, Indiana
looking at an M37, I'm like,
what the heck is that thing in your shed?
Yeah.
Well, it's a power wagon.
So, you went looking at an M37, which is a cool truck.
Yeah, very cool.
I've had several of those.
Yeah.
They ride good, they're capable.
Yeah.
Extremely capable.
Yeah.
Drove all the way to San Diego.
Bought the first one from Jesus Valdez.
Jesus and Jesus.
I tell everybody, I said,
I bought my first power wagon from Jesus.
They're like, yeah.
They're like, yeah, I didn't realize it's,
he went back that long.
Right.
So, you know, and I found that paper yesterday,
the bill of sale from the very first one.
It was February the 23rd of 2003.
Now, do you still have that truck?
No.
Yeah.
So, to a good friend, it went to Vermont,
and I don't know where it's at.
It came back up for sale.
Yeah.
So, you kind of keep track of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You'll see them pop back up here and there, you know.
A lot of the guys like the old crash box and stuff,
you know, that's, this is not typical of a
20s or 30s type cat,
because they're not familiar with old six-volt
and carburetors and all that.
So, they kind of fuss one,
but they'll buy them and they're like,
hey, I love it, you know, but I can't drive it.
I'm like, well, you know,
you can put a 4BT in it or something
to make it usable for you
without chopping it all up.
And, you know, pushing the grill,
widening the grill, pushing the front end out.
Yeah.
You see a lot of stuff that guys get it done.
It's got function, but they lose the form.
And that's what we try to retain.
Oh, yeah.
Tisdale coach works anyway.
Yeah.
You guys do a really good job with that.
That was paramount for me when I was doing
Sergeant Rock.
Because, uh...
Even that form, it's beautiful.
Yeah.
I didn't modify the,
I didn't stretch the hood.
I didn't change any of that stuff.
And as you know, it's a challenge.
Oh, yeah.
That's very, that's a,
especially that truck.
The 41s were tight.
Right.
Basically a street rod.
But, uh, so what's the future, uh,
for Tisdale coach works?
Well, we are, uh, we're on the footsteps
or the threshold of the WC 53.
Okay.
Which is the carry-all.
Yeah.
I was going to ask you about the carry-all.
That's my favorite.
It's a cool one.
So we're, we're going to stamp the back quarters.
We're actually going to utilize our crew cab sides
and then graph the rear quarters
and hope, hoping that we can
utilize our wide body roof,
at least the front two thirds
and then stamp because tooling is very high.
Yeah.
You know, it's sometimes it takes years
to recapture your investment on the tooling.
Oh, yeah.
Sometimes you don't like the front doors.
You know, I still haven't recaptured the investment.
That's been eight years ago.
It's just something I wanted to do.
I was told that we need them.
Yeah.
But then everybody kind of fell in love
with the stretched and wider crew cab,
which has a 38 inch front door instead of a 33.
Yeah.
That's a challenge.
That's a challenge.
But man, the carry-all would be awesome.
The carry-all is going to be cool.
Probably putting barn doors on the back of it.
Yeah.
Because it had a clamshell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's an eye opener, you know,
when you walk around the corner.
So, you know,
open barn doors and make it more.
You know, I call it the,
the power wagon soccer mom mobile.
Yeah.
Even though it's still got a lot of testosterone
dripping from it.
Oh, yeah.
You know, you throw some 40s
or 37s on it and it's still just,
just as lovely as that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
That's,
that's the tooling project for this year later on
and we're building a prototype right now.
Yeah.
In a wide body.
Well,
keep us informed with that.
And like I said,
we may have to do something on the show
with one of those things.
I,
I love those things.
That would be cool.
Put your twist on that.
It would be awesome.
I've been wanting to do a carry-all for a long time.
I've even thought about getting some of the old ambulances.
You know,
I'm working them down,
but you know,
the,
the shape's just not quite right.
I love the bubble of the carry-all.
Yeah.
You know,
it's just got that kind of cool art deco.
I don't know what you'd call it.
Just the way it fluid forms or whatever.
Yeah.
They're great.
They're great.
Well,
listen,
thanks for showing up.
And anytime you're in town,
man,
drop by here.
We'd love to have you back on.
I appreciate you having me.
Hopefully you can take the Southern out of me a little bit.
No, we love it, man.
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About this episode
Matt Tisdale of Tisdale Coachworks traces how a lifelong love of Power Wagons turned into a 23-year sheet-metal business in Winslow, Arizona. He started reproducing hard-to-find bed sides after hunting trucks across the West Coast, then expanded into full cab bodies and four-door conversions built to fit modern Ram chassis. The conversation covers pricing, tooling scale, and craftsmanship details like thick gauge metal and period-correct wiring/fender forming. Tisdale also shares business lessons—stay enthusiastic, reinvest, watch your numbers—and practical project upgrades like modern wiring harnesses and stronger aftermarket steering columns.
Matt Tisdale, owner of Tisdale Coachworks out of Winslow, Indiana, is in the shop today. He and Stacey dig into one the most American trucks ever produced - the Dodge Power Wagon. Matt describes how his love for these WW2 classics motivated him to mortgage his house to start his own company reproducing all-metal Power Wagon cabs and beds.