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Welcome back to another edition

of CCO's Car Care Show.

Denny Long here,

and let me introduce you to,

what do they say, a guy who needs no introduction.

But I'm gonna do it anyway.

We haven't heard from this guy in a while.

I'm talking about Dan Burns

from Lloyd's Automotive.

Dan, good morning.

Good morning, Denny, how are you?

I'm doing quite well.

Thanks for asking.

Hope you are too.

It's been quite a while

and I was telling somebody,

say, tomorrow morning, meaning today,

Dan's gonna be on.

Dan has been on for quite some time

and you're filling in for a guy by the name

and Nick Stoffel,

who was just a kid when he started working for you,

didn't he?

He was, he was in high school actually.

Yeah, he's been working

for and with me for,

with and for me for 20,

more than 25 years I'm sure now.

So, yeah.

Well, he took some time off

and asked you to fill in.

So, the rules are reversed now.

It's great to have you here this morning.

Yeah, well, good to get up on a Saturday morning

for a change.

It's beautiful out.

It's nice to be up early in the morning.

Absolutely.

Well, you do that from time to time.

I mean, I know that personally,

you still kind of get your hands into,

you still do some work at Lloyd's, don't you?

I do.

So, I'll,

I think I worked three or four days in September

and I'm scheduled for two days in October.

So, that's pretty typical for how it goes.

I generally fill in for somebody that's missing.

You know, somebody that's gone on vacation

or they have something that they have going on

and I'm happy to come fill in a day or two for them.

But it's kind of good to do, isn't it?

Kind of keeps you active.

Keeps me fresh, keeps me active

and keeps me aware of what's going on.

And you know, these guys that work here

have been my best friends for ever

and I spend more,

I have spent more time with them over the years

than I have with anybody.

So, that's good to come hang out with them

and be around.

Yep, it's really fun.

Well, it's great.

It's fun to have you back on the radio here.

And if you have a car or truck or van

that's experiencing some problems

and you want to get a little analysis

over the air from Dan

before you bring it in for service

at your favorite shop or favorite dealer,

by all means call us or text us.

And as I always like to say do it sooner rather than later

because our time goes by so quickly,

Dan will take his leave about 7.45 this morning

before Ted Ferrell's wine chat.

So call us or text us.

You want to call and chat with Dan?

Great, or send him a text.

Either way, 6514619226.

Looking at a text that just came in.

How often do spark plugs need to be changed?

I guess that would depend

on what the manufacturer says, right?

What do you think, Dan?

That's the right answer, Danny.

It depends on what the manufacturer says.

And some of them are in the 50 to 60,000 mile range

but many of them nowadays are well over 100,000 miles

that you can go before it's time to change

the spark plug but your answer was exactly right

that you need to check your owner's manual

or check with your manufacturer

and see what they recommend

and when they recommend changing the spark plugs

and that's when we would do it also.

Is that, can that be a tough job, Dan, changing plugs?

You look under the hood of your car, Danny

and show me where the spark plug is.

What's one of those you got to go searching for?

You just, yes, with all the covers

and everything that they put on them

and because you don't have to do it very often

there's no need to make them as accessible

as they used to be.

So yes, they're oftentimes buried under a bunch of stuff

and most of the time now each of the spark plug

has its own coil

and so the coil has to be removed

to get at the spark plug.

But yeah, it oftentimes is a bigger job

than you'd want to do at home in your driveway

but many cars, many cars are still,

you can still can do it for but make sure

you know what you're getting into before you get started.

Yeah, good idea.

What about the quality of spark plugs over the years?

Given this 100,000 mile in some cases

I would imagine they're pretty dug on good.

They are pretty dug on good

and they're pretty dug on expensive too.

Oh, are they like what for example?

Yeah, they are designed to go 100,000 miles

so of course they're made with some very special metals

and those special metals get to be expensive

but that's why they work the way that they do

and so they're worth it.

Yeah, that's just the way it goes nowadays.

Here's something you and I've talked about for years

and you've always recommended

especially during the winter months

is get your car washed off

and especially that underbody wash

but this question this morning came in a bit ago saying

with modern car paints and finishes

is it still beneficial to put a good coat of wax

on the car before winter?

You know it is, that is a good idea for sure

and you know what else Denny is,

you'd think they would get rust solved in the world

wouldn't you but when you look around

you still see rusty cars

and rust around the fender wells

so in our climate rust is still a deal

and the best weapon against rust

is to keep a vehicle cleaned and polished

and if you do that, I'm not saying you're gonna stop the rust

but you're certainly gonna slow it down and help it.

In fact it's funny this text came in

because I was planning on doing that very thing

with my wife's SUV

which is a pretty good size vehicle

and it takes a long time to not only wash or get it washed

and then wax it

and then of course wipe the wax down

and clean this and that, that's a process

but I found there's some really good waxes out now

that are really, they're tremendous.

You know some of them are just brand

you just brand on and wipe them off

and I don't know if they're as good

but I've used them on my own car

and you know for kind of keeping it up in between wax jobs

I think it works great

and yeah if you're gonna take on that, that SUV wax job

today Danny you're gonna need a little Tylenol

for your shoulders this afternoon.

That's right and hydrate often

and it's gonna be great weather

this weekend and the weather like you suggested

is gonna be beautiful.

Oh it's a great data, it's a great data

get the cars all cleaned up for the winter

that's for sure, it's really a cut.

Not humid.

Right.

I tell you what let's break,

Texer wants to know we used to get this from time to time

Lloyd's Automotive, is there a Lloyd or was there a Lloyd?

Let's when we come back after the break

talk a little bit about the history of that wonderful place

we lovingly call Lloyd's Automotive in St. Paul.

Dan Burns is with us here on CCO Radio

stay with us, we have moved to one more degree

actually we backed off about three degrees

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20 in the morning we have 63 degrees here

in the Twin Cities Denny Longback

with Dan Burns from Lloyd's Automotive

and Saint Paul Dam before the break.

I pose the question about like a lot of folks

have asked when you and I would do the show

for so many years, who's Lloyd?

Is there really Lloyd?

Is there still a Lloyd?

What's the history of Lloyd's Automotive

before you tell us where you guys are located?

Yeah, there was, there absolutely was a Lloyd

and actually Denny, that question makes me think

it's funny, when I started in this business

forever ago, 1983, I was 26 years old

and probably the youngest guy in the business

at the time and now I've become the local historian

so that isn't that the way life goes.

You're kind of the mechanic emeritus, is he?

Yeah, I've ridden that cart or ridden that horse forever.

But anyway, yes, Howard Lloyd started his business here

on Grand Avenue and he actually owned two gas stations

right across the street from each other.

One where the bank is or Bank Cherokee is across the street

and one where Lloyd's is right now

and over the years, the one across the street

got sold off and they built the bank there

and Lloyd's has just been added on to

and rebuilt over the years and in 1998

we did a major restoration and made it what it is today.

But Howard Lloyd hired Don LaValle

when he was in high school and Don LaValle never left.

He stayed working at Lloyd's Automotive

and ended up buying the business from Howard Lloyd

and I ended up buying the business in 1990 from Don LaValle.

Here we are now.

So yeah, it's been quite a course

and what a great thing to happen to me

to land at Lloyd's Automotive and let it turn into

what it's turned into because it's pretty special.

It is a great place and there are such great

nice people there that really treat the customer so well.

I don't recall a business that has that big of a group.

Well, not huge, but I mean that each and every one of them

are great folks.

Now, for those that maybe need some help,

they always like to ask you and Nick

exactly where are you located

and how do we find and get in touch?

Well, we are in St. Paul.

We're at 982 Grand Avenue,

which is right between Lexington and Victoria

on Grand Avenue.

So the best way to get in touch is come on over.

We're always glad to see you and help you out.

Otherwise, you can find us on the web

at LloydsAutomotive.net

L-L-O-Y-D-S LloydsAutomotive.net

Or give us a call.

651-228-1316.

I'll get you that information before Dan leaves us.

Which is about 745 this morning.

All right, Dan, back to work.

Here's another text.

Texter has a 2018 F-150, 3.5 liter, 96,000 miles on it.

Here she says, I recently noticed

a severe cold start rattle after starting.

The engine rattle lasts around five seconds

or until the oil pressure reaches the norm.

It has not thrown any codes yet.

There are no other symptoms.

It only happens after the vehicle

has been sitting over six to nine hours.

Texter assumes it's a cam phaser failure.

Is there any other diagnostic test

that can be done to ensure this is the issue?

Always enjoy the show, he says.

Yeah, there is more diagnostic tests,

but the first and perhaps the best test would be

to leave it at your shop or our shop overnight

so we can hear what's going on.

That cam phaser assembly on that particular vehicle

is a common failure and that's exactly right.

When the oil pressure is low, that phaser will rattle

and as the pressure comes up, then it goes away

and the best diagnostic for me to do

is to actually hear it myself.

And the next step is to take it apart

and inspect it, do an inspection on it.

But at that point, you're pretty committed.

Like, okay, we're gonna take this apart

and look at it, but when I tell you that it needs one,

you're gonna probably wanna keep going

because you've already paid most of the labor

for me to get there anyway.

So the next step is a bigger commitment

and you need to plan on fixing it,

but you should fix it.

That's still a new enough vehicle

and the mileage is still low enough

that it's worth the repair for sure.

Just learned that was from Steve from Hugo, Minnesota.

Thanks, Steve, for that text.

Here's another one.

2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee smells like hot antifreeze

after the car's been running.

How big of a concern is this, is the question.

They haven't been able to find any leak for 10 years.

Well, it's coming from somewhere

and after it's been running and been hot,

oftentimes what you might be finding

is that it's a little bit of a coolant leak

that's dripping onto the exhaust

or onto the exhaust manifold

and so you're not seeing it.

It's evaporating, which is why you're smelling it

and a good place to start looking

is near the air intake from under the hood

for the Ventil HVAC system

for the heating and air conditioning system

because it's probably happening near that,

the fact that you're smelling it inside the car.

So that's what I would look for

and usually if there's coolant dripping

onto a manifold or an exhaust component,

there'll be some sort of staining

and that staining is what I would be looking for.

Where's that happening?

And it's not abnormal that you would not be smelling it

or wouldn't be seeing a puddle on the ground

or a drip on the ground

because if it's hitting the exhaust,

the exhaust is really hot

and that's just evaporating off right away.

All right.

I just remembered, I promised our listeners,

those of you from time to time

that we missed last week,

we would pick up this week as far as questions.

Let's see if we can grab a couple here.

This texture said last week,

because I plan to buy new all season tires.

Do you have an opinion on the benefits of,

I've never heard of this,

a three-peak snowflake rated tire.

What is that?

Have you heard of that, Dan?

No, I have not heard of that,

but the winter, the snow tire type tires have come a long ways.

Many years ago, Denny, I used to claim or suggest

that you need to switch them off.

If you run them through the winter,

you'll rack them and the more snow tire type

and the all season type tires

have gotten better at lasting longer.

And so to get a more aggressive all season tire nowadays

is probably a good idea.

And just do your research.

You can find more information about what types of tire

and what the ratings are and how happy people are.

You can find better information on the internet

than you can from me,

but so that's where I would do my research,

but I would not be afraid of a more aggressive

snow type tire in our climate.

I think you'd be happy with it.

All right, very good.

I'll tell you what, let's do this.

Let's take a quick break here for the forecast.

I'm just looking at a text before we break.

It says, Dan Burns changed the oil

in my Corvette in November, 2013.

I have a photo of Dan standing near the car in the bay.

He changed the oil in.

So there's a memory for you.

Hang on, Dan.

Dan Burns with us this morning for Nick.

And Nick will be back next week, of course.

In the meantime, call us or text us

with your Car Care question 6514619226.

Weather is next on News Talk A3OWCCO.

Good Saturday morning to you.

Welcome back to our Car Care Show.

Denny Long here and filling in for Nick Stoffel

is our friend Dan Burns from Lloyd's Automotive.

Dan, as usual, we have a bunch of text questions

to take care of before you take your leave today.

Let's see.

My wife's car will sometimes not start.

20 minutes later, it starts no problem.

Battery is checked out good.

Any ideas what it may be?

It's a 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0.

Thank you, it says.

What do you think?

Well, I'm not sure if it's not cranking

or if it's cranking and not starting.

But I'm going to assume because they said the battery is OK,

that I'll go with the it's not cranking.

And that's actually a pretty easy test

to if it's not cranking, we can hook up a voltmeter down

at the starter and see when it's

acting up if we're getting voltage to the starter.

If we have good voltage to the starter,

if we have good ground to the starter

and if we have a good signal to the starter

and it's not cranking over at times,

then the starter has failed and will need to be replaced.

OK.

Texture, this next text, Dan, it's a 2019 Ford Ranger.

Hesitation when it shifts between third and fourth gears.

It also hesitates when driving at lower speeds

around 30 miles an hour.

The question is, is this a transmission problem

or something else?

They have been to the dealer, and after a week,

they said it needed a $9,000 transmission rebuild.

The truck itself has 60,000 miles on it.

Well, it's probably worth it if that's where you land

and that's what it turns out needing.

But I wonder if and maybe a good idea

before they spend $9,000 would

be to service the transmission, to change the fluid

and to change the filter and do an inspection at that point

on the inside of the transmission.

If when you take the transmission pan and filter down,

you find that the inside of the transmission

is covered with metallic particles,

then I think they're right that the transmission is

coming apart, that there's a component that's failing

and it's metal dust is coming off somewhere,

a bearing is failing or something like that.

And if that's the case, it will need

a transmission replacement.

But I would start with an inspection

and see what you have.

Sometimes just new fluid and a new filter

will make a difference and help you out

in a situation like that.

All right, now I was looking at a text,

speaking of tires, Texter says I had a nail

in my run flat tires that cannot be patched.

I had to buy new tires.

Texter says don't buy run flat tires.

Tell us about that and what do you think of that comment?

Well, I don't like run flat tires

because they're really hard to work with.

So selfishly, I don't like them.

What, why a car has a run flat tire on it

is because it does not have room for a spare tire.

So they don't have a spare.

If you get a flat on that highway,

you can drive at a medium distance

to a place where you can safely get some help

or get off the highway and at least get it towed

or whatever, but they're meant to be driven

for a period of time because they have such a hard sidewall.

And the other thing about run flat tires that I've seen

is that they don't wear as good as a conventional tire

because of the hard sidewalls.

But if you don't have a spare tire,

you probably want the run flat tires on there.

And but that's that what the Texter is telling you is true.

They're a little bit more complicated

and they're a little bit more expensive.

Okay, here's when this kind of jumps around

and see if I can't piece it together.

The vehicle is a Lexus 2015 RC 350.

Texter says that I've had only owned for a few months.

My oxygen fuel sensor light will come on

after about a quarter tank is gone.

And as soon as I fill the car, it goes off.

It also turns off after a quarter tank is left.

I only put a regular gas in it once and not only premium.

Do you think there is a gas additive that I should try?

Well, if the oxygen sensor light is coming on,

it's coming on for a reason.

I don't understand why it would have anything to do

with the quantity of fuel in the tank.

So I guess my recommendation would be

you should take that in and have some diagnostics done on it

and find out what's really wrong with the vehicle.

Cause obviously there's a coincidence

between the level of fuel in the car

and the light coming on.

But I'm not sure what that is.

Maybe the check engine light is coming on

because there's a problem with the evaporative system

which would have something to do with the gas tank.

But I think you need some professional help on that

before you try any more tricks

and find out why that light is really coming on.

And the texture in this may make no difference at all

in this situation, but the texture says

I only put a regular gas in it once.

What I know about this particular vehicle

is the manufacturer wants premium only in that.

So again, maybe the listener just put it in by mistake.

Well, and even if it's supposed to have premium

and you don't get premium,

that should not cause the check engine light to come on.

So I think you need some help.

You do, get it checked out.

I bought, texture says,

a new Jeep Grand Cherokee limited loaded with technology.

Am I better spending $400 more for the Mopar warranty

than a third-party contract?

Yeah, well, you and I talk about extended warranties

for years here and what is your usual answer?

Buy carefully, buy very, very carefully

and read all the fine print very carefully

because we have found that when it comes to making a claim

with an insurance company, any insurance company,

whether it be the manufacturer or a third-party,

they're gonna read the fine print very carefully

and if they can wiggle out of a claim, they will.

So be very, very careful about what you're getting.

Read all sorts of reviews on the type of insurance

that you're gonna buy for an extended warranty

and proceed carefully.

I personally don't buy an extended warranty,

but that's not a fair comparison

because I'm in the business

and I can pretty much fix it myself.

So, you know, I think if you're comfortable,

if you always buy extended warranties

for your TVs and appliances and all that sort of stuff,

you probably should buy one for a car too,

but proceed carefully

because there's some pretty poor quality policies

out there that they're selling

and you don't want one of those.

You want a top-notch policy from a top-notch company.

Again, fine print, read it.

Yeah, be very careful.

Yeah, we have time for one more.

Tester says, I've been told never

over-inflate your tires.

Is that true?

Would there ever be a case

where you would over-inflate your tires?

If I'm storing it for the winter,

I would over-inflate that, but that's true.

If you're driving the car,

especially in the summertime when it's warm,

do not over-inflate the tires.

In the fall, you know,

if you're filling your tires on a hot day

and cold weather's a common,

the pressure will go down a little bit

when the tires cool off.

So keep that in mind.

You know, that's only a couple of PSI,

but that is true.

Do not over-inflate your tires.

If they get very over-inflated,

it can be dangerous and it can wreck the tire.

But people will ask me,

can I over-inflate my tires when I store it

so that it doesn't get a flat spot on the bottom?

And I don't...

From the people that I've talked to that are into cars

and they store a lot of cars,

they do do that and that's probably a good idea.

Very good.

Dan, always fun.

It was great to have you back on the radio again

and we got to do this again sometime.

Nick will be back next week, of course,

but Dan, as we say goodbye,

how do we find Lloyd's Automotive?

Come on over.

We are at 982 Grand Avenue in St. Paul.

You can find us on the web at LloydsAutomotive.net,

L-L-O-Y-D-S LloydsAutomotive.net,

or give us a call, 651-228-1316.

All right, Dan.

We'll see you one of these days at Lloyds.

Sounds good.

Thanks, Danny.

Thank you so much, Dan Burns from Lloyds Automotive.

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