Driving While Awesome Oct 30, 2025

RADwood SoCal, RoundCat Rally Japan, and the Land Moto Electric Motorcycle - DWA! Podcast Ep. #907

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Nissan Skylines

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Bugatti EB110

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Ferrari Testarossa

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Porsche 959

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Ferrari F355

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Ferrari 250 GTO

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Pontiac GTO

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Porsche 911 Turbo S

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Ford Probe

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Porsche Boxster

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Audi Quattro

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Honda Element

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Honda NSX

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Honda Beat

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Volkswagen Lupo

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Ferrari Mondial Coupe

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Fiat Panda

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Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution

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Porsche 968

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spoon cars

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K24

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Welcome to Driving Well Awesome.

My name is Warren.

I'm Lane, Bart, and I'm tub.

Yeah, I forgot to bring it back.

Wow, Brad Brownell.

Nice to join the crew.

I've been away for too long.

When was the last time you were on the podcast, Brad?

God had to have been like maybe 21, maybe 21.

Yeah, maybe it's been a long time.

It wasn't the one in the van in the van again.

No, no, no, because we did it.

I was like, oh, that was like 2018.

Yeah, that was 17.

That was like 16.

That was his first time.

That was my first time.

We did done some on the road, like an LA, I remember specifically.

We did an episode in that big house.

Oh, we did my birthday one.

Yep.

After Radwood 2.

Yeah, that was 2019.

That was 19.

No, that was 2017.

I was not the other house.

The one by the Peterson.

That was 17.

17 is what I'm thinking over the Corvette cake.

Yeah, so that was in December.

Yeah, and then there was, but you also, we did some recordings on the rally.

On the rallies.

Definitely.

Yeah, I've been around.

I've been around.

It's been at least four years.

I travel.

Yeah, you do travel.

I get around.

It's true.

That is very true.

You were on that rally, right?

Yeah.

A travel guy?

Yeah.

Definitely.

That one goes down in the book.

The book of lore.

Yeah, you wouldn't think that guy would be living on, but here he is.

I know.

I wonder if he knows what a legend he is.

Oh, he knows.

Yeah, he's probably done that a lot.

He knows.

Yeah.

What if everyone's like, oh, I know the eye travel guy.

Well, we always, I envision that as they were all high as hell all night long, right?

We pulled up to their parking lot and then they all kind of came out of the bushes and

he rolled over there and his friends are in the back going, dude, Dan, get back here.

Get back here.

It was too late.

He was already in.

Committed.

Yeah, totally committed.

So Brad, you find yourself in Santa Cruz.

Congratulations.

Yeah, I love it here.

That's great.

That's good.

Doing a West Coast little swing, live in Cleveland, Ohio now.

We had you at Radwood in LA.

Yes.

Which is super nice.

Just happened to work out that I was in LA during a Radwood and I was like, I'd be weird

if I didn't show up.

I know.

I think we should just get right into it.

How was that experience for you being not involved in the show, like planning?

Very strange.

You didn't have to do any work.

Did you?

Yeah.

Just showed up.

I didn't have to show up early.

I didn't have to set up anything.

No merch booth.

No nothing.

Yeah.

This is probably, I think probably your second time in that position because you did go to

the Cleveland show.

I went to Cleveland and I've been to Detroit and I went to North Carolina.

So I've done a few, but those were shorter and this is like LA.

Yeah.

It was a big one.

It was cool.

I mean, the vibe was definitely still there and the venue is great.

I know you guys have used that venue before, but that was my first time being in that venue

and having the indoor outdoor thing was neat and there was pretty good caliber of cars.

I mean, I'm jaded as they come.

I've seen everything now, but it was pretty good and the Batmobile like, come on.

That's cool.

I know.

That's cool.

Tim Burton, Batmobile.

There's like no chance that doesn't win Vest and Show if it's like anybody else with the

Peterson.

Yeah.

Radis by far.

So that was great to have you.

Great to see Amanda too.

And also a bunch of other people like manual choreo and a lot of industry types that we

I think had also we had lost we not only we had lost, but we were up against SEMA last

two years.

Oh, sure.

And so if you're an LA car industry type, you're going to probably have to choose and

this year we were.

Yeah.

Cause it's like a month earlier.

Yeah.

So yeah.

It did feel weird to not be in December.

Oh, totally.

To not have reference.

For us too.

Yeah.

And then it had crept to like towards the end of December because at the beginning it

was like December.

It was my birthday.

So it was like December 30th and then at some point it was like December 18th and 20th

and stuff like that.

And now we're back.

We're back.

I know.

And Matt Farrow was back.

Yeah.

Like manual.

Like it felt very, I mean, I, from the outside looking in because I wasn't able to make it.

It felt.

It was good.

Very.

There was a moment where we had a homie, very kind of a big crew together with like Paul

Kramer and Jennifer there and then Sarah Trimble and Jeff and Lucker.

Yeah.

There was just like, you know, kind of felt like a little bit of a Ryan Mullen and yeah,

a good hang.

Yeah.

It was, it was definitely like, it was nice to get that, that feeling of like localized

celebrity again.

Yeah.

Like, you know everybody and everybody knows you.

Athena and Brad were there.

Yeah.

That was cool.

I mean, they're always there.

I didn't recognize them.

But they're great.

Cause they were like their costume was so committed this time.

Yeah.

With the whole good little soul patch.

Yeah.

That's been a theme for them.

Yeah.

For the last few years they go all out.

Yeah.

They usually do something as a, you know, as a couple and or with their friend and they

go all in.

Yeah.

They do a really good job.

And they finally won last Radwood last year.

Yeah.

This one was, it was a challenge because we had two very, very, very good ones.

You know, the guy who won, you know, we can throw it out there real quick.

He was like full on Wall Street get up.

Oh, I saw him.

It was from like, it was all original gear that he wore in period, including his like

laptop, his phone, like as he announced on stage down to the underwear, he rocked

his original gear and like his, his eye glasses, reading glasses were from 1994.

He said, and I saw a picture of him somewhere and he was making a very good face.

He was in character the whole time on a phone call.

I'm trying to give him the award and I felt bad for Sarah though.

Sarah Trimble.

Oh, her was just so good.

It was rainbow bright to riding a horse.

Yeah.

I mean, she put a lot of effort into it and I felt pretty bad.

I think she was pretty bummed, but she was, but I also think it was fair.

The other guy got a huge round of applause.

I know.

And, you know, I think there's also an angle I was talking to art about this is that sometimes

like the little kitty stuff doesn't play as well to the crowd as like the more mature

choice.

So like that Wall Street choice is just more and also an older guy doing it.

It seems like Sarah was good last year too.

She heard Garth.

She was Garth and she was like, no sponsors Garth.

You know, like all rebocked out.

Yeah.

I know our photo goes as the photos.

He's got some really good pictures of her.

So we'll definitely give her a huge shout out because she always, you know, goes all

in and this one in particular, I mean, like it was just so involving.

You know, she was, it was like a little, it was like a little pedal horse, but the pedals

were hidden and it looked like it would gallop as she would pedal.

Like it was like almost like, I don't know how you describe it.

Like it was like cantilevered, right?

Like the pedals weren't like regular pedals.

And so it was like, it looked like it was effort just to pedal and she was fully dressed up

and she had contact lenses.

Wow.

She went all in.

So is it all in or all out?

What do you think?

All in, all out, all in on, you know, get in there, Lewis.

I don't know dude.

She's in her costume, but she's going all out.

She went all out.

Yeah.

It's hard to say.

But you're all in.

I'm all in, going all out.

Yeah.

Oh, that's a good one.

Do you guys know balls to the wall where that's from?

Balls to the wall.

I do know where that's from.

Steam trains, the little balls would spin faster.

That's right.

As it spins faster, they go out to the ends or to the edges to the wall and you know,

how about to the windows to the wall?

Yeah.

That's right.

You don't want the sweat as the crow flies.

Yeah.

As the crow flies and whatnot.

Two in the bush and what have you and yeah.

Yeah.

Went in Rome.

Yeah.

So Rad with SoCal was awesome.

I don't know.

I don't want to get too far into it because there's so much to talk about.

Our third time at Port of LA, huge show.

We did have the Batmobile there and I have one story.

By the way, tons of exotics this year that like,

I feel like the last couple of years were lacking.

Yeah.

We had a ton of skylines.

You know, Lamborghini 50th or 20th, whatever.

Mario Andretti's Old Countach.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's cool.

We had multiple Testarosa's, EB 110 from the Peterson,

959 from the founder of Pelican Parts.

Black one.

Just happened to be next door and said, I could come over and nice.

Warren, did you see when he rolled in?

Jesus Christ.

No, I wasn't.

I wasn't around.

Remember, I thought it was a Peterson car because I was.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

So I parked him as he came in and he has.

So it was Wayne Dempsey, right?

Wayne Dempsey.

He had his huge like 95 pound Labradoodle looking dog.

No way.

Seating directly on the seat with no cover.

Yes.

959.

And I told him, I'm like, and I've talked to Elaine about this

before I think like my, I have a dream like to take Remy and my F

355 just on Cabrillo down by the water and how do the exact same

thing and be like, Oh my God, you let your dog sit in your Ferrari.

And I'll be like, yeah, this is his car.

And that's what he told me.

I'm like, I'm like, this is so awesome.

I love this.

And he's like, yeah, this is his car.

You know, and that's, that's exactly the vibe that I would,

that I would roll with.

So good.

There's a classic story, a character in Italy that drives daily

drives a 250 GTO and has his, I think it's a Bernie's mountain dog

or similar shotgun every day.

Yeah.

Jeff's work does the same.

Yeah.

He's got usually two Bernie's mountain dogs and all of us are in his

cars.

Same way that Marcus from that owns like Sonoma and all those raceways.

Yeah.

He remember I was telling you his dog car because he was showing

me pictures of his dog car and it was a roof 993 turbo s in like dark

green.

That guy's right.

Also, where are my dogs at DMX?

And then who let the dogs?

It was Baja boys.

Yeah.

Good job.

Baja men.

Baja.

Baja men.

I think it was Baja men.

They used to be the Baja boys.

That's right.

And then doggy style.

Baja puberty.

Not to be confused with the Vanga boys, which is like something.

No, please, please don't.

They're coming.

So Bucky Lasik and his Subaru Bride.

Yeah, that was cool.

Yeah.

That was cool.

Bunch of great stuff.

I was great.

It was great to see Paul Kramer, auto kennel.

Shout out.

It was his first time he could like come to an event and drive and walk

around a little bit.

He did have his scooter, which I didn't have to park for Radwood,

but he's killing it.

We went up, we went up to Angela's crest for, for good vibes

breakfast club and he's usually there.

I was hoping to see him there and everybody's like, oh, Paul hasn't

been in a while because, you know, this hip and whatever.

And he showed up in the Jag and he's like, this is the first one

that I've been to.

I was like, oh man, it's great that I was able to be here.

So he was the first one.

He drove himself too.

And I was like, I just saw he on his, on the WhatsApp group that

I'm part of with him.

He just announced yesterday that he can drive a manual now.

Whoa.

That was the night 28, right?

That he drove to Radwood.

No, that's a automatic.

Oh, it is.

Oh, so I, I'm terrible friend.

I saw it pop up and I'm like, yeah, I know you came to Radwood.

So I didn't even acknowledge it.

He's really far along though.

That's awesome.

Yeah, dude.

He's so crazy quick recovery.

He's like, I love the motivation and like, and I think it's a lot

of the stuff is mindset, right?

Like, and you know, some people are just like, like, he's just like,

on it.

Sorry.

The air compressor keeps going off here at beeline and it's usually

like once a week, it'll go on.

Yeah.

This is someone's just waited, waited for you to start recording.

Just started feeling.

I feel like Jason Lee and Mallrath where he's like, what was it?

He's like, once again with the fucking.

What was it?

What is that?

Oh man.

You have to come.

I love that movie though.

Yeah.

Anyways, Paul, you're a fucking champ.

We love you and it was really awesome to see you and how quickly

you're, you're getting out of this and you know, we'll see you on

the next rally very soon.

Absolutely.

I agree.

Quick story.

We were doing the awards ceremony, getting people to come over.

You know, hey, words are about to start.

Come on over to the DJ booth.

That kind of thing.

There was my boy DJ DP ones and twos.

Was he on the fade?

Was he on the fades?

Not as faded.

He was telling me that story.

Dude.

I know everything was smooth.

Thank God.

But so we're getting everyone there.

Finally it's time.

I'm like, oh, let's get this going.

And we didn't have much time.

There's a lot of awards.

We have like sponsor awards.

And I, you know, just like, let's get the show on the road.

And I go, all right, for our first award, boom, all power goes

out, everything out.

Generator ran out of gas at that exact second.

You needed me there.

Funny story.

I'd yell really loud.

Oh, right.

Right.

I would just whisper in your ear and then you'd yell.

Funny story.

I started that generator.

Oh yeah.

And he goes, so it'll just run until it runs out of gas.

And I was like, yep.

And it did.

Without any warnings or anything.

Luckily Honda had a generator just right next door.

And I stole it.

It deflated their motorcycle blow up thing.

That's okay.

Plugged our stuff right in, set it all back up and good to go.

Save by Honda.

Gives me flashbacks to Austin.

Oh yeah.

I remember I rattled the oil, the oil cap loose, the drain plug.

And then when that thing, when it runs out of oil, has a fail

safe and it turns off the generator, but this is like,

basically right into the show.

And we're looking for oil and we got it from someone's car.

And it was like a whole, you know, oh my God.

Yeah.

I forgot about that.

We got stories.

We are definitely three travel and stories and such.

So anyways, the, everything else went off without a hitch.

We were all in and all out.

Yeah.

It was some of these people that, you know, a lot of the industry folks,

like, you know, we invited and we knew they were coming,

but there were also a bunch of surprises.

Like the car shrink, Brian creed and I'm sure you know him, Brad.

Oh dude.

And by the way, he was another one where I was like, dude,

he's like, I don't remember him since like the first LA show.

Or maybe, maybe Peterson.

Yeah.

And he's been to like several of our shows,

but I've never met him in like in person.

I've never actually interacted with him and he's like sent cars.

I've coordinated with him and LBI to get cars,

some motor looks like, you know, like those that M one, like,

you know, he was the one who knew they had it,

like before they even brought it out.

And it's just, it's funny how in this space,

like you can be Instagram and like text buddies with people in the

industry for years and not meet them.

Like when Woodward, I interacted with her for years,

didn't meet her till like that until we had the,

remember when we debuted, we had the R movie,

our film for the rally movie.

Yeah.

Ahead of Lufka Colt.

That was the first time I actually met her in person.

Same with like, you know, Gluckr and a few of these other characters,

but like him in particular, I just until very recently at car week,

we were coordinating on some car shit and getting his cars to motor lux.

And he finally like, he was good.

He made an effort.

He's like, dude, I'm going to find your ass and we're going to meet

up with him for a little bit.

But yeah, it's, it's crazy.

Yeah.

Lynn was there.

Aaron Robinson.

Oh yeah.

I saw Aaron post a bunch.

Mark Vaughn did an interview for auto week with him and he's still,

they're still going.

So it's good.

Good to see people out there out and about boot.

Anything you want to add on SoCal art?

No, I think I mentioned this earlier on a call that you and I were on,

but this was my favorite show we've had outside of the first one.

The first one was really special.

You know, it was like, it was kind of like when everything,

like we saw that we had really struck a nerve, right?

And like, all right, this is, this is about to blow up and who was there.

We got an automobile magazine because of that.

And you know, it was, it was a really.

So you're talking LA show specifically or SoCal show?

LA show specifically or SoCal shows.

Yeah.

But the first one was a really big deal, right?

And that one is like special in its own way,

but out of all the other ones we've done, like I really enjoyed this show.

Like just cause the way from an operational standpoint, like, you know,

we just, we were just on it and we were, you know,

we were like a super whale, well-oiled machine at this point.

And not that we haven't been before, but also just like the placement,

all of our car placement was really solid.

We had really good cars and like we had great partners and the vibe was really,

really great.

Like it was so laid back and really fun.

The food was good.

Like the lines weren't super long.

Like everything was like just pumping.

Generators were working.

Well, that was the one thing, right?

And it's the standout thing for you.

See, so that's why I know last year.

Yeah.

And something like that, you know, we just go into action.

We just, we get it sorted and we just continue.

And it's like, it's not like a, oh my gosh,

I'm going to panic and lose my mind.

It's like, you just, you just fix it and move on.

And everybody was pretty chill.

No one was freaking out.

Like we had a huge crowd already at the stage.

Yeah.

Are you still going nuts over there with the,

I can't hear the generator, by the way.

That's good.

Hopefully the listeners turned on and off like.

At least 10 times.

Is there no one on site that can turn that,

can unplug that?

Well, they're using, they're using it.

Oh, are they though?

Well, yeah, I assume so.

Oh yeah, I guess so.

Probably grinding or something that uses a lot of air.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Air Jordans.

So that was so Cal.

Great show.

Good times.

Thank you for coming out.

We saw some familiar faces from the DWA crew.

We had, I saw Dieter and

I forget his name,

but the guy who brought the probe on the rally.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Silver probe.

Yeah, super nice dude.

I think it was so nice.

The coolest first gen probe around.

It came on the Sierra round.

Boxster brakes.

Really?

Full Porsche Boxster brakes at front and rear.

And he has like,

he's building a big turbo for it.

Everyone knows that those crossover.

So he's an admin.

Common swap.

That guy's cool.

His story is that he,

he had probes in high school

and then he got into Audis and he like

turbo dumb and made like these.

He made this like crazy V8 Quattro

that I guess is pop famous on YouTube,

like YouTube because it does this launch.

Like it's like a,

Oh yeah.

I know that car.

It's like this famous car.

And like chef Malone was like,

he's like, oh, you're that guy.

You know, kind of thing.

So and he's taking all his knowledge,

you learn from that and putting it into this probe

to see if it can actually be a good decent car.

I love the chef Malone.

Oh, it's a Mazda chassis.

So it should be too bad.

Yeah.

Same MX six.

Yeah.

Pretty cool.

Slick.

It looked really nice.

So Lane went to Japan.

I did two weeks in Japan.

Dang dude.

Are you turning Japanese dude?

I'm full on Japanese dude.

I can say I got the most with the best of them.

Yeah.

I spent the first week on the round cat rally

or essentially the first week.

Give us a quick rundown.

How many cars?

I saw pictures.

It looked like 10, 12.

It's about 12 cars.

Yeah.

All all K cars.

Yep.

I want to say, oh, besides the Honda element,

that orange element,

which is like the raddest,

like especially in Japan,

the element looks huge.

Yeah.

And that thing is so done up.

And it's this guy hero,

hero son.

He's a,

he's a photographer,

automotive photographer.

And I think any,

I think he owns a car magazine.

They used to shoot for,

or maybe he still does,

but what's that magazine?

Are you know the magazine,

the Japanese magazine,

Motorhead.

So he was a,

he shot for Motorhead and stuff.

And,

but that's like his car.

That's all he has,

right?

At least right now.

So yeah,

like, so he went to Fuji Speedway

to some like car show recently.

I'm like, oh, where'd you bring?

He's like, I brought the element.

Is it like a standout car in Japan?

I think so.

Like people,

I think,

I think people are into it.

And his is so done up

and so like perfect.

Yeah.

And he has all the lighting

and stuff.

It's orange.

It's like a matte orange.

It's actually really cool.

It makes you kind of,

well, they're popular here.

They're like a nice element.

Goes for pretty,

pretty decent money.

They just,

but you don't see them like that.

So shitty.

And you don't see them like that.

Like really done up.

Like it's like really nice.

Look, I'm bringing a trailer.

You'll be surprised.

Okay.

Well, I don't see them like that.

I know.

Yeah.

But there was like 12 ish cars.

A few S six sixties,

which is like,

so sick.

Little mini mid-engine NSX

essentially about 660 CC.

Maybe in a turbo manual

transmission.

So there was like three of those

maybe.

And then there was

a couple

Honda.

What are those little Hondas

called?

Beats.

Two beats.

One owned by

Massa of

built by legends

and he's owned it since it was new.

And I think they actually bought it

as like a development car

and then didn't do anything to it.

And he's a super,

super nice guy too.

Super nice dude.

Him and Katsu of built by legends

are super rad.

Is that Lupo part of the rally?

The

Lupo was part of the rally

and it was a real Lupo.

It's like a Lupo Cup car

from the

so sick Lupo Cup.

Yeah.

Like spec.

So you know who owns that art is

Adam from Sotomoto.

Oh, shit.

No way.

Yeah.

So he was on the,

he was on the rally.

So that's cool.

For those of you

that are wondering who he is,

he's a importer from like

from the Pacific Northwest.

And we know him because

of Radwood

and

he actually sold a Ferrari

on Rad for sale.

Oh, yeah.

Back in the day.

And I photographed it

Dirtfish.

I remember that.

So it was a

Ferrari

Dino, right?

Dino.

Mondial Coupe.

Or Mondial Coups.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Mondial Coupe.

So yeah.

Adam was Sotomoto was there

and then

I don't know.

There was like

I'm trying to think.

that fiat.

Is that thing a K car?

I'm not even sure.

There's a little fiat like Panda.

I don't know.

I'm looking for your pictures

right now.

Green

Panda

thing.

That was owned by

Kansaito

who's

pretty famous.

Very famous.

He's like

the Larry Chen in Japan.

Yeah.

Almost like

he's like very

photographer

and stuff.

Yeah.

So we did

I think it was like

five,

six days of

driving throughout

Northern Japan,

basically

north of

Tokyo.

It looks like

it was it was wet

most of the rally

or was that just

you just took a bunch of

pictures on that.

it was it was wet

the first couple

days.

Okay.

Yeah.

How did that impact it?

I would say not at all.

Yeah.

I mean,

the cars like sliding

like 80 horsepower

at the most,

you know,

and then

yeah,

their front wheel drive

jackets and umbrellas

and jackets and umbrellas

and it was it was never

raining like

the first

day we got to

Niko

which is two hours

north of Tokyo.

That's like

that was the meeting spot

and then we did this

hill climb up to this

dam

which was

probably my favorite road

of the whole rally actually

sweet one way

two lane up a hill.

Yeah.

So sick.

Um,

perfectly smooth

like,

you know,

deliver the tofu

real fast on this one.

And then it's like

buses in the way.

So it was like

you're playing

like an 80s

video game and stuff.

You're just

going throughout the

buses.

Yeah.

It was kind of perfect,

but that day

it was actually like

pouring rain,

but it made it

pretty fun.

That's

yeah.

And uh,

but yeah,

the rest of the trip was

um,

in Tokyo,

the first couple of days

we were there was actually

pretty warm.

Uh,

and then it was

it was pretty chilly

up north.

Um,

but it was

it was like,

it was pretty nice

overall.

Do you remember

the names of the towns

you were around?

Sure.

Okay.

Uh,

we did.

So I did,

we spent three nights in

Sendai,

which is a big city

in northern Japan.

Sendai is right.

It's around the size

of San Jose.

It's like a million people.

It feels very

San Jose-ish,

but way cooler than San

Jose because

it's not a high bar.

Um,

yeah,

but it has us,

it has a San Jose

like big hotel

kind of thing

and like

kind of conference

kind of stuff.

But,

but it has like

way cooler

alleys

and stuff to go down

and tons of restaurants

and shopping

and stuff like that.

But you went,

so you went to Teriyaki.

You went to California

Roll and to,

uh,

sushi rice.

Those are the three

other cities you went to, right?

Yeah, exactly.

Um,

I don't know

if we're getting too far

ahead of ourselves here

because I know this is

technically post rally,

but you did

ask,

uh,

for a recommendation

for that one spot,

the burger place.

Did you end up going?

I did.

You saw pictures,

dude.

Well,

I didn't see any pictures

of the burgers.

I didn't take a picture

of the actual burgers.

I ate it really fast.

How was it?

Um,

that was great.

It was actually good.

I got a,

uh,

dude,

it's,

yeah,

I got,

I forgot.

I got a bacon cheeseburger

with jalapenos on it.

It was killer.

Dude,

it's so good.

And the bread to the,

the,

the buns they make

and the like slatherer

and teriyaki

before they bake them

and it's all homemade.

It's so good.

Yeah.

It's cool.

It's so American.

It's like they're trying to,

they're like,

uh,

there's this whole like vibe

in Japan of like these,

uh,

Japanese guys that look

like 90s skateboarders.

Sweet.

And that's what their vibe

is.

So they were like big,

the,

the long shorts,

like Ben Davis

right at home.

Dude,

he's,

yeah,

just digging it.

Um,

and,

uh,

that place is like that,

but it has all this American,

like they have an American flag

and tile behind the grill, dude.

It's kind of like,

but they have like kind of

an American Southwest motif

kind of going on, right?

Like cause they have like

a little cacti

and like random,

like little diners.

Yeah.

I would say they're being

a little like Texas.

Right.

Americana.

Classic Americana, dude.

Yeah.

But,

but like everything,

but all the food is like

so elevated.

It's so fucking good.

Cause every,

every single thing that

they have is just a very

high quality,

but it's the same, you know,

it's like thick,

you can do shoestring

or you can do the big,

thick wedgie.

Yeah.

I got shoestring and then Heidi

got the weirdest things on the

menu.

She gets like a seafood salad

and,

and she got,

and she got truffle mashed

potatoes.

I'm like,

what did you look for?

Like the most odd shit on the

menu.

Like probably so good though.

That sounds killer,

but she loved it.

And the truffle mashed potatoes

were delicious,

but it's good.

It was definitely like

you go to a burger place

and she got the seafood

salad and truffle mashed

potatoes.

Do you think there's anything

there with like Japan and

jalapenos?

Can we like Japan?

Japan.

I didn't even think that

no, they had them.

Dude,

jalapenos are pretty popular

over there.

They do make it on sushi

around here,

but I just figured that was

like a California.

Yeah.

I will say Japanese,

not into spicy stuff

for the most part.

There are some,

but it's

time and place.

I think you're pretty outside

the box.

If you're like

getting spicy shit,

let me give you a little

counterpoint to what you

experienced.

Art and I took our team after

Radwood to a ramen restaurant.

These are North

Michiganders.

Oh, have they ever had

ramen?

They,

wait, what?

Two of them have never...

I'm from Michigan.

I've heard of ramen.

Who had never had

edamame.

Didn't know what it was

or had never seen

how to eat it.

What the fuck?

Had never heard of sake

or what it was.

Come on.

But sushi's been big forever.

I had to order for them.

This is a fact.

I was sitting right next to him.

Yep.

This is like carrying Baron

going to sushi with

trying to stab it with his chopsticks.

So sushi,

I'll give you some leniency,

but like,

they're not young,

not that young,

and they do travel a little bit

to get to the point where you're out

and our buddy,

Cam, who this was,

he was like,

He's like,

I just stick to,

you know,

like the salty pelican

or the,

you know,

crusty burger.

It's all just the same.

They go to chains when they go.

Well, they also just go to

bar and grills.

Bar and grill.

They're not like Applebee's.

They're not trying to find

the sushi spot in wherever.

Yeah.

Fair enough, but like,

I mean,

I've been that experience.

I've been to that town.

Yeah.

It's fairly metropolitan.

Totally.

There's a sushi restaurant.

You can freak it out.

Yeah.

They have Thai food.

They have Vietnamese food.

Yeah.

There's,

I think it's just,

yeah,

but no ramen restaurants.

I mean,

I guess that's how to think for them.

Oh,

we got to look it up.

We got to look it up.

They were totally befuddled by the menu.

I had to literally order for them

like my nine year old.

it worn out to take over because I was like,

the way I was describing,

it was deterring them.

And he's like,

just let me,

let me handle it.

Yeah.

You're going to like it.

And they did.

They did like it.

So we went to,

we were going to go to this on this first

official day of the rally,

which was after that toge run thing.

Yep.

The next day we wake up

and we had it out.

And it was a little wet.

Oh,

and by the way,

I saw that roof.

I don't know if you guys saw it posted it.

It was like the RU us.

Oh,

yes.

No,

no,

not my doppelganger,

but the logo.

It was like a sheet metal manufacturing.

The middle of nowhere.

Random.

Yeah.

Like they use the same font.

Just random outside of Nico.

And then

I did see a wide body Evo with Watts

followed by a nine,

six,

eight close sport with a turbo hood.

And dark green on that road,

which was pretty sick, dude.

but anyways,

we go up and we were supposed to go to the school house

for lunch.

And it's this,

this soba place,

you know, sobo noodles.

Yep.

And it's at this old school house

and it's in the middle of nowhere dude.

Like we're talking like we're going through these

little farm towns that are like hardly towns.

It's just a bunch of houses on the side of the road.

And there's like maybe a little like market or something.

And there's this one school house.

And it was closed.

You know,

I think that's a thing in Japan too.

Like places are just sometimes not open.

So it was closed.

So we go down the road a little bit.

And this wasn't even,

and there's like a couple of houses.

And there was this little,

there's this little place,

Japanese restaurant.

This older couple is there.

Little room with three tables in it.

Best like such good Roman dude.

Like insane ramen.

The dude's the one guy making it.

His wife's like bringing water.

They don't even sell drinks there.

They have tea.

Like it's like so old school.

You duck to get in the door.

Is that something you stumbled on

or did Clark have that dial?

So he knew it existed.

And he's like, here, try this place.

The sweet old couple lives, you know,

and we went there.

It was amazing.

650 yen for my pork ramen,

which four dollars or something.

Four dollars.

Sounds good.

I feel like that's like we're in the American South

and you find like a really good barbecue spot.

Or like when I was in Baja,

and I found like a really good fish taco

on the side, like stand on the side.

Like there's always those little places that are totally.

That's where the best food is.

Yeah.

It was incredible.

When it's cheap like that,

you're like, this is what it should cost.

Avoid the chain and you'll have a better experience.

And Japan's an interesting place too.

Even in Tokyo,

there's like rents are so cheap on these places

or they own the places or whatever.

They just want like six customers a day.

Like that's all they want really.

They can get by on that.

They can get by, but it's also they don't want more.

Yeah.

So us going there,

like we probably gave them more customers that day

because there was like 25 of us.

Then they would have all week.

And they're like borderline annoyed.

Yeah.

Probably.

I mean, they were very sweet,

but they always are.

And then, you know, I'm sure they're talking shit about

those guys jeans in the background.

That's only Canadians.

Dude, you're like,

that's going to be a story for months there.

Like, you know,

for you guys,

there's place like talking about that talk of the town.

I know.

And the place had no sign on the,

it didn't have like a sign up or anything.

You're just like, I think this is where we're going.

You know, this is like behind the house kind of thing.

Yeah, it was cool.

But a great trip overall.

No real like crazy stories or anything,

which is good.

No crashes.

Yeah.

That's good.

No, no anything like that.

But yeah, it was just a good trip overall.

Richard Chan made it out, which is awesome.

That's right.

Lawrence was there with his girlfriend.

Lawrence who has the R32.

That was on the rally.

The Red R32.

Of Arabia.

Yeah.

Of Arabia.

Exactly.

And then Dante, Eric, Simon.

Yeah.

We had a little contingent,

a little California crew there.

That sounds really fun.

Yeah.

Very, very fun.

It was great.

When's the next one?

One year from now?

Maybe.

Maybe earlier.

We were talking about doing a,

it would be cool to do a DWA thing over there.

Yeah.

Real cars.

I like it.

With more than two liters of displacement.

Yeah.

What do you think?

Dude, I mean,

there's a question about it.

I was looking through the questions.

Get some real,

get some real spoon cars,

like some Hondas or something.

I'm super down.

I mean, maybe we'll,

I'll take my 30 and drop it off at spoons.

So they can give my K 24,

the full,

get some built,

have built by legends,

bring a couple cars for us.

Love it.

Yeah.

There's a,

there's an angle there.

That's that.

Literally one of my dreams.

So I,

and I think it's,

it's possible.

Yeah.

No,

I think we could do something.

Nothing is impossible.

Yeah.

Well, that's great.

Watch this space.

Sounds fun.

Might have to send my 911 over for that.

There you go.

Oh man.

Dude, I was like,

like the night,

my 911 is like a great size.

It's not very big.

Like a lot of these roads are small.

Like I was dreaming of having the 911.

Quite a few times.

Sure.

You think that'd be more fun to drive them?

Yes.

Honda inbox.

Yeah.

I think so.

Slightly.

Real drive and with like a little bit of power.

Yeah.

Little longer legs.

Yeah.

It's like,

it just,

it really depends on the experience that you want.

Right.

And like,

and you like want as a driver, right?

Like it's,

you prefer that.

Like, I mean,

it's cool to be cruising around these little shit boxes and,

you know,

ringing them out and going slow and all that, but like,

I feel like at the core, right?

Like that's what you would prefer to do.

And I can see that.

I can see the,

the appeal of doing the K car rally thing,

but I personally would want to do that.

Yeah.

And I,

and the one I was driving,

you know,

just so everyone knows was a N one.

It was a full spoon tuned N one.

So bigger turbo,

six-speed manual differential full suspension package,

you know,

sway bars,

shocks,

all that kind of stuff.

And I had a tune and all this stuff.

So it was actually,

it was deep.

It was pretty good,

but it still doesn't compare to like having a real sports car,

but also I think it is the way Clark does this.

It is more of a tour than like a rally.

So,

so it is like,

you like one,

like last rally I did last year,

I hadn't,

for one day I was in an N box stock automatic.

It's totally fine.

Yeah.

Like I would,

it's,

it's like totally fine.

No matter what you're really,

you're just going to like seeing cool stuff,

going to cool places,

having good food with cool people.

Yeah.

So awesome.

Yeah.

And it's a solid group though.

Yeah.

The photos look good.

And that's an awesome experience,

especially like,

I mean,

you have some other folks there that are industry types participating

as well now.

And I'm sure with that additional publicity now,

it's probably going to start to,

to really ramp up and maybe going to be a little more challenging to

participate.

So maybe,

yeah,

I know it might be one of those like hot ticket things.

Yeah.

The other guys were on it,

like couples,

like there was a guy,

Benjamin Radcliffe,

like second most British name ever,

but he does that the,

he does those like cars that are like tubes.

He makes like the art pieces out of like,

I don't know if you've seen those wire frame,

like he does a full scale,

fifth scale,

like all kinds of stuff.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah.

There's a picture of one on the ground,

but yeah,

he does like these like full scale and he does these like dune buggy

type ones that are like bright orange and stuff.

So he was on the rally and then this guy, Chris,

um,

from New York,

who's actually a lawyer,

but then he's like,

he's like shooting medium format film.

Everyone had cameras and everyone was like a photographer.

I was like,

same photos or big dude.

It was kind of wild.

Like how much everyone was a dog.

I saw some,

I saw some Ilford and a few other things in bags.

Yeah.

The guy with an X2D like,

um,

a medium format and then there was like,

yeah,

there's a bunch of cool stuff.

And then there was this one guy,

a Christopher.

He's like from,

where's Max?

We're stopping from Denmark.

Dutch.

He's Dutch.

Yeah.

So this guy's from like Netherlands and,

uh,

he's a professional photographer.

Uh,

he shoots like ad campaign stuff.

So he does like very planned shoots.

He's not like so much of like this,

you know,

going out and just capturing stuff like this,

but he'll do like a Patek Philippe ad or something like that.

He's like that kind of guy where he's like staging and stuff like that.

So that was cool.

Um, yeah,

it was just cool group of people for sure.

So,

and then my family came out and we spent five days in Tokyo,

um,

and said,

where were we?

Uh,

said,

said a guy,

I guess is a,

and it's right.

Basically it's like adjacent to Shibuya.

Um,

so we were in this rad pretty awesome little neighborhood and like

killer house and our,

like right off the main strip,

like that would walk you to Shibuya,

which we walked to several times.

It's like a 40 minute walk,

but, um,

uh,

it was like a nice little neighborhood and like there was a E 63 wagon right across the street and then two portion of cons at the house,

the other house.

And you know, there was like,

it was kind of a nice little nice neighborhood for sure.

That's a nice suburb,

like a little suburb.

And it's,

it's definitely,

um, you know,

a spot where you see something like that.

I know no bullshit.

I was in a cab driving through there on the most recent trip that I was in.

I don't know if I told you about this warrant and,

um,

I saw a W 124 with an E 60 badge,

which is like that's a,

that's a legitimate pre-merger AMG car.

And I was out my phone and it was gone.

I almost told the cab driver to go around the block.

I had my mother-in-law in the car.

I was like, I don't want to make a big scene, you know,

but it was, it was, um, right around there.

Yeah.

Well, like one block from our house we were staying in was a,

or two blocks was a seven 11 on that main street,

whatever that street is that goes all the way to Shabuya.

It's like two lanes each way with a center divider and everything.

It's a, it's the big street, big road there.

Um,

but there was a seven 11 right there and you would just go to that seven 11.

And you know,

people just pull off on the side of the road as long as someone's in the car.

It's cool.

And they put their flashers on.

Like if you just stood at that seven 11 for a while,

like you would just see rad cars stopping there to run into seven 11.

So like, uh, old NSX nine 11 cab, you know, brand new nine nine two,

uh, brand new Corvette, which is rare to see there.

Uh, that's a choice.

That like Nova wagon thing I posted a picture of, I think it was an,

I missed that some old,

but it was a lady driving it like a 60, like a Japanese lady,

but it was like a sixties wagon. Um,

just so much cool stuff on that street too, because that's a,

a main street and people were kind of commuting home and you know,

like every other car is a G wagon, but, um, yeah,

there's a couple of those.

There's like two other streets at last, last time you went out there,

I recommended one of them.

It's, it's omotesando.

The one that goes through Meiji Jingu, like right,

we're kind of where you were with the burger place and it goes the other

direction towards the bottom of the hill.

And there's these pedestrian bridges that you can stand on and you get all,

all kinds of cool shit through there.

And then the other neighborhood is Aoyama and Aoyama is like close to,

especially close to where the Honda showroom is.

They always have cool shit there.

And that road is just like,

there's car spotters who sit there and just like shoot all this cool shit all the

time.

AMG, Alpina, you know, Radwater stuff, you're going to see there.

Um, I mean, yeah, Japan, especially Tokyo, like is, you know,

I wouldn't say unrivaled, but it's one of the top, like, you know,

car spotting destinations in the world. If you know where to be.

Yeah.

And you see the really awful stuff too. Like in Ginza, I saw Mansory,

Lamborghini, SCV, you know, stuff like that.

And, uh, yeah.

The mobsters going nuts with that shit or the suit, all the rhinestone stuff

and weird over the top Goddy stuff. Um, yeah, there's a,

so we're Dino for, you know, formerly of speed hunters Dino sits in this

little neighborhood where it's, um, it's a Sega Fredo, like the, the old cop,

you know, the Italian coffee shop and it's a little alleyway.

And so it's sort of like, just imagine like an arch and the,

the table that he sits on is right at the apex of that turn.

Just imagine an arch that goes around the building.

It's a round building.

And so you see the cars like right in front of you, like they come,

it's not great for photos, but they pass like within three feet from you.

And so like,

I would sit with them there when I would visit and all day long dude,

just like whatever you can think of, like including some of this gnarly,

you know, like over the top over Rod stuff, but yeah,

there's so many cool little spots like that.

It's cool.

It's great.

Japan does car culture better than almost anywhere else.

It's like right below West Cliff for car spotting.

Yeah, exactly.

I know we got it.

We still got a battle dude.

I mean, I feel like, uh, you know,

Coastville, the droid in Montecito is always like heavy hit and stuff,

but it's going to be like your super car shit.

Pretty good.

Whereas like, whereas like up top on, on, on, on a shoreline,

that's where you get the variety.

It's like West Cliff.

It's the same, very similar kind of setup.

We'll have to do the one, one Saturday West Cliff versus a shoreline.

But I do feel like in Japan, you could like, I could sit on any,

I could sit almost anywhere and see like rad cars go by like in Shibuya,

like Myers Manx going by.

I know it's not just forbidden stuff.

It's like good examples of the cars we got.

They're just like really well kept.

Yes.

And then you have the forbidden fruit, which is like, what the hell is that?

Yeah.

And then you go to like Daikanyama and there's always something cool in the parking

lot.

Like there's always an old mini Cooper there.

No matter what, like many old mini Coopers are so popular.

It's such a great car.

Yeah.

Such a good vintage car to have there.

I know.

Tiny roads.

Yeah.

Caterims too.

I see catering.

Oh yeah.

You're right.

I did see some.

So we, there was this group of like five Japanese guys, one of them out of Caterham

and we saw him up on this volcano.

We were on like this killer toge road at this volcano and in the pouring rain

with his top off and then we saw him the next day in this like completely

different area with all his homies like driving there.

So yeah, it's pretty rad.

That's a different kind of round cat rally Caterham.

Caterham.

That's a stretch dude.

Round Caterham.

Yeah.

One of the last roads we did on like the, I guess it was like the last real

driving day.

There's this, there's this like market kind of like roadside stand kind of

place at the bottom of this road and they sell like stickers.

I forget what it's called, but they sell like a bunch of like, you know,

little stickers of the, the highway and all this stuff.

It's like a famous, very famous driving road.

The amount of like motorcycles going through there was pretty insane.

I felt like analysis type thing, but it was just like, and there was other

stuff too.

There was like a Evo there and a GT, a new GTR and you know, we saw a bunch

of like, but way more just the motorcycle scene was like crazy.

Turnpike.

That's a good question.

It might have been.

Yeah, I don't know.

They have a highway nine sticker.

It wasn't highway nine.

Were they almost like that bad to the bone as they drove?

Dude, they were.

There was a bunch of Americana motorcycle.

I know Harley's and like moon.

Nice, weird, like yeah, side by side things would like the guy had like

his license plate.

So the low rider nice.

Um, yeah, they, they, oh, but I just need to talk about this one thing

before we move on.

I went to this house.

Don't know where the fuck it was on the way to Sendai.

It was probably 30 minutes out of Sendai.

We go to this house.

He's, I think he was kensaido or hero's friend.

The guy is like known to be in us, usdm cargo.

Okay.

He's Japanese.

But so he has a Integra type bar, yellow with, and it's usdm car.

He bought it in San Jose.

So it's left hand drive, left hand drive full American car.

He actually went to Radwood LA because heroes like Lane, you have to come.

He's like, you have to come meet him.

He loves Radwood.

So I went and he, he's like telling me how he went to it when he went

and got his car and his friend was in Radwood.

So he went to it and how amazing it is and all this stuff.

And this guy's like, this guy's kind of, he's a, he's a, he's definitely like

a known person because I put the pictures and then everyone was like

tagging him.

And, but we go to his house.

He's like, he has a Zachary Integra in the driveway.

He has a newer Subaru Forester, usdm bumpers on it.

It's his daughter.

He bought it for his daughter and then he put usdm bumpers on it.

It's classic.

And then he has a Honda Accord wagon from the U.S.

And then he had some other stuff.

His house is full San Jose Traco.

It looked like it.

You see that?

I was like, that's such an undefined house.

Like grass yard, which is kind of weird there.

Full grass with these little lantern things.

U.S.

What's it called?

ATD, ATT security signs in his yard.

But not ATT.

By the way, they don't have ATT there.

Yeah, no way.

ATT security signs in his garage.

He has against the wall.

He has Home Depot boxes folded up all his car care kit.

Yeah.

Movie set.

Yeah.

His car care kit, like his car care products are the cheesiest

American product.

It looks like straight out of a Craig and armor all.

Yeah.

Like chemical.

By the way, we love all those.

Yeah, we love them.

I love the grass.

Like literally the grass is greener.

Like he's copying the grass down to the dude all the way to

the grass.

Here's the fucking kicker dude.

Oh, specialized mountain bike in his garage.

Hot, hot American wife.

I didn't see his wife.

Yeah.

So here's the kicker.

You look inside the house on his TV is a police chase in

Anaheim.

What the?

He's in.

He's all in.

Yeah.

He's like has KTLA playing down there.

I love it.

Hey, you know what?

And there's people here that do that with like very Japanese

inspired cosplay.

They only watch anime.

It feels like the people who do like the hot rod shows or

whatever.

And like that's their whole lifestyle.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Like you got to change everything about you to be everything

like a greaser.

Yeah.

It was a trip dude.

It's good times man.

Super cool though.

I mean, it's so weird too because the neighborhood was all

like very normal Japanese little like normal the way their

houses are built and everything.

And then his is like this kind of big property like an

American sized plot of land.

The garage.

Like 6,000 square feet with a garage and then a big area and

he has like eight cars lined up down as a trip.

Yeah.

And he threw away all of his chopsticks and he only eats

with forks and only eats with force.

Yeah.

It's like a knife and he loves mayonnaise and it's never

even a regular mayonnaise.

I've ever even heard of it.

He's on everything.

Pace Picante or what?

Pace Picante.

He says the best salsa.

Yep.

So Brad, I saw you're running around the country.

Yeah.

As I usually do.

But not with a minivan full of Radwood crap.

Nope.

It's a bigger van.

It is a bigger van.

Yeah.

So as of June, I am the sales director for Land Moto.

Okay.

We make electric motorcycles here in the U.S.

Where else do you drive?

On land.

Yeah.

Exactly.

We make them in Cleveland, Ohio.

So they're like 90 something percent American made

components.

Sweet.

Obviously the battery sells.

We don't source here.

We get those out of India.

But everything else is made in the Midwest mostly.

Which unbelievably for a lot of people, Ohio is the third

largest state for motorcycle registrations.

Because like our riding season is like way shorter than

everywhere else.

But we're just really dedicated, I guess.

Number one, California?

I think it's California and Texas.

Yeah.

And then Ohio and then I think Florida after that.

Weird.

Yeah.

So Ohio.

And you've been obviously in motorcycles for a super long

time and like covering them for Jalopnik and doing a bunch

of stuff.

Yeah.

Big rider.

I like two wheels.

And you own an electric motorcycle.

I do.

I own seven motorcycles and one of them is electric.

And the only driving one awesome rally participant.

To do it on two wheels.

And I did it twice.

Oh yeah.

You did twice?

Yeah.

I did it twice.

I know you got stuck in the gravel on the beach.

Yes.

I got out.

But it was pretty rough.

What was it?

He did the Coastal.

I brought my BMW.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

The yellow one, right?

Or whatever that color is called.

Yeah.

I think I'm like Calahari yellow.

I think I'm combining both of those.

He did one out of Paso.

Then he did the NorCal.

Oh, wow.

Yep.

So dude, you're a double motorcycle participant.

I've been on two wheels for a long time.

Obviously, when I was a kid, I rode a lot off-road.

Kind of went away from it for a long time.

And then when I was at Jalopnik the first time,

we had our motorcycle guy injure his hand in a way

that he couldn't pull a clutch anymore.

So we didn't have a motorcycle guy.

So they started asking like,

who are we going to send on these motorcycle press trips?

And I was like, I'll get my motorcycle license for this.

Why not?

Is that the Ender?

Yeah.

And I went to Bonneville with Indian,

like probably 2018 or 2019 was the first time.

And I kind of got hooked then and they sent me a press loaner.

My first press loan bike was a thousand pound Indian.

And so like my previous street experience

was my little 50 CC Honda.

Right, right.

But I had had plenty of off-road experiences.

You're going to like the opposite end of the spectrum,

the total opposite end.

And they were like, yeah,

here we'll drop off this road master and just ride it to Seattle.

Of course it's called a road master.

What else would it be?

So I rode from Reno to Seattle on this bike

that was literally 950 pounds that I've never ridden before.

And I was like, yeah, let's go.

And so ever since then I've been.

Of course.

It'll be fine.

Brad's motto.

Yeah, it's fine.

I forgot about your motto.

Thor about it.

Yeah, it's fine.

It's fine.

It'll be fine.

So, yeah.

So I've been hooked on motorcycles and I love electric

and I love hybrid and I love, you know,

all the tech that we're doing.

I'm a very tech heavy guy.

Are there hybrid motorcycles?

There are.

I've actually tested one for Jalopnik.

It's rad Kawasaki built one.

It's a little half baked.

Shocking.

A little bit.

Could never see that coming.

But yeah, it was a ninja.

Ninja seven hybrid, I think is what they call it.

And it's really, really well built,

but like it's a little heavy.

The wheelbase is a little too long.

Like I wrote it on some pretty gnarly, like twisty roads.

Yeah.

And it's fast as all get out.

Like you can, you can do like over boost with the hybrid

and like zoom away.

So they say that it's like the efficiency of a 250,

but the speed of a liter bike,

which is kind of what it delivers.

Torque fills basically.

So it was fun, but it was also like not quite there.

Yeah.

It needed another couple of years of development.

Interesting.

Have you ridden a turbo bike?

Like an old 80s or 90s turbo bike?

I have.

Talk about something that could use some torque fill like that.

This is the opposite, right?

Like I was wondering like if you were going to say

that the transition is like where it's gnarly,

but it sounds like it's, it's pretty,

and that's probably seamless, right?

Whereas the old bikes, there's lag like crazy, right?

Yeah.

It's relatively well integrated.

The, the issue is when you're in electric mode,

you can't switch from electric to hybrid on the fly

and it runs out at 45 miles an hour on a full electric.

So like every once in a while,

I would go to merge onto the highway and I'd be in EV mode

and I would hit 45 and it'd be like flashing at me.

So I have to pull off the side of the road,

switch into hybrid and then go again.

So it was a little bit like, yeah,

a little not fully big.

Feels like software shit though, like pretty minor,

but then you said the wheelbase too long.

Yeah.

It's a little heavy, a little long, but I mean,

it was, it was a good riding experience,

but not quite right there, but electric,

I think I enjoy for, especially for around town stuff.

It's probably the perfect bike for most people who ride.

Yeah.

You know, you'll have a lot of people who like GS people

and Harley people and stuff and they're like,

well, if I can't do a thousand miles in a day, I don't want it.

Sure.

Which electric is not there yet.

And I'm not sure it ever will be just because of the form factor

and like the size and everything.

But around town stuff.

But around town stuff, like our bikes,

you can, it's 5.5 kilowatt hours.

You can fill it up for a dollar of electricity

and theoretically, depending on how you ride,

you could ride it all week on a dollar.

So how many miles?

Up to 120 city range.

Yeah.

That's a lot.

It is a lot.

Yeah.

It's the most in our class.

Like there's nothing that can go farther than us,

even at like a super higher.

What does your Harley do?

My Harley will theoretically do about the same.

Okay.

And that was 30 grand, five years ago.

Yeah.

And ours, our bikes start at, well,

for that amount of range, they start at 10.

Yeah.

And the lower range bikes start at seven.

Okay.

So.

And I heard you earlier, you were talking about it's like 23 horsepower

and 230 pound feet of torque.

Yeah.

It'll do zero to 30 in one second

and zero to 60 in about five.

It's quick.

It's fast.

It's nimble because it's super lightweight.

Yeah.

A lot of people.

What's lightweight?

198 pounds for the small battery.

So almost everything that we're competing against

is over 100 pounds heavier than us.

And we're like, we're minimalist for a couple of reasons.

One, because we like the look of the minimalist style

of the motorcycle, but also just because it makes it

lighter, less expensive, easier to maintain.

Yeah.

There's a bunch of reasons around it.

So, yeah, having 198 pound bike for a beginner rider

is like way easier than like,

like when I got on a 950 pound India,

that was pretty gnarly.

Like I was worried about it.

Aside from my, it'll be fine attitude.

That's crazy.

If you drop it, it's over.

You're done.

I did drop it.

Oh yeah.

The back, do you do backwards?

Yeah.

Where you like put your back against it?

Yeah.

You have to bend the handlebars down and then pick up from

behind you.

Oh God.

Yeah.

It's, it was not my idea of a good time.

So are you on like a little bit of a press tour?

Like cruising around?

A little bit.

Yeah.

So we're doing expo's.

We're doing dealer development.

I'm doing, I actually did a warranty drop off for a customer.

Oh.

How long have they been out there like selling?

I haven't really heard of them until you came.

Yeah.

We, the company started in 2020.

Okay.

Went to production in 22.

So we've been producing bikes for about two and a half ish years.

The first like year was kind of like hand built hand assembled

stuff.

And now we've, we've got more to like a assembly line process.

So yeah, we've, we've built about 400 bikes.

Okay.

Trying to get to a bike a day by the end of this year.

Where do you say most of them are in Cleveland?

Yeah.

I mean, our biggest sales are to California actually.

Oh, cool.

But Cleveland is a big market for us obviously.

Cause we, we are there.

New York city is big.

Chicago is pretty big.

And then South Florida for some reason.

We sell a lot of bikes to South Florida.

And then you got the sprinter van.

You're kind of just doing a tour showing people all the stuff.

And then what's your, what's your path look like on your trip?

Uh, yeah.

So we started at overland expo in Virginia.

And then it was, it was a lot of fun.

I wanted to go to that.

I've been to a couple.

There are a lot of fun.

Um, the vibes are interesting.

It's interesting cause we went to one in Denver.

That had super different vibes from the one in North Carolina.

That has super different vibes from the one out west.

Cause like the, where you can use your stuff and,

and how far off road you can go.

Demographics are different too.

Demographics are different.

Yeah.

Um, and then we camped at that for four days with the bikes

and we were doing demo ride.

We did 350 demo rides.

So we, it's, you know, about getting butts in seats and getting

people to test them out and try them out.

Um, and then we went to Austin city limits and we did demo rides in

Austin.

Did you get to go to any shows?

Oh yeah.

Oh nice.

Yeah.

So, um, we were actually camped out for our demos at Mellow Johnny's,

um, which is, um, oh God.

I've, the bicycle guy, the really good bicycle guy,

really good bicycle.

Lance Armstrong.

Thank you.

Oh wow.

It's Lance Armstrong.

So that's his bicycle shop.

Okay.

And his business partner started, um, Austin city limits.

Oh, I did not know that.

So we, while we were there, he was like, Hey,

are you guys going to Austin city limits?

And we were like, no, the tickets are sold out.

We couldn't make it.

It's not a big deal.

And he goes, Oh, here you go.

And he handed us wristbands for the weekend.

We're like, all right, cool.

Let's go.

That's great.

So we got to see some cool shows.

Uh, and then we stuck out, uh, in Austin for the USGP and we did

test rides during USGP as well.

And then went to the race on Sunday and then drove to Phoenix and

visited Brad and Naomi, uh, Brad from the auto off topic podcast.

It's a friend of mine and did some stuff with, uh, some

bike customizers there and some dealers and things.

And then came to LA and did some riding with some people and went

to events and went to Radwood and then coming up here.

And then we're going to go over to Reno.

We're doing test rides at send cut send.

Oh, wow.

Um, then I'm going to go to Salt Lake city to visit, uh, Jonathan

Klein.

He's the editor in chief of ride apart.

We're going to do some riding over there.

Then go down to SEMA where we're launching some new products and

then Dallas for electrify expo and then back home.

Nice.

I kind of like this though.

This is sort of a, uh, it's good.

It's like, you know, the national tour getting out there.

Yeah.

And like now's a bad time to be in Ohio anyway.

It's like 50 degrees and cold and rain and everything.

So I mean, who doesn't want to be peeing in a jar in a van?

No, I think it's cool.

It's great.

It's like a very grassroots way to do it.

You know, getting out there and like really seeing people.

Yeah.

I mean introducing people to the bikes, getting butts in seats,

uh, working deals, developing, you know, all kinds of stuff.

So just trying to exposure.

How are you charging on the road?

I do have an inverter in the van.

Yeah.

Um, and it does work.

Okay.

Yeah.

But for the most part it's hotels.

I bring a couple of batteries into the, okay.

The batteries are removable.

Oh, that's rad.

Yeah.

That's cool.

Oh, that makes it really nice.

Totally.

You can have a backup.

So you can just charge them.

You can charge them in a 110.

Regular 110 outlet.

Or you have an extra underscore.

Dude, that's pretty sick.

So the bikes only charge on 110.

Yeah.

They don't do fast charge or anything.

So it's just regular wall outlet, five or 10 amp service.

You don't need to upgrade anything.

You don't need to change anything.

Yeah.

Um, and, uh, the small battery will charge in about two hours

and large battery charges in about five.

And how much are extra batteries?

Uh, actually right now we're running a program where a small,

you can get extra small battery for 500 bucks.

Cool.

Cause that's like, that's a pretty,

that's a cool hack right there.

And how big is the battery like physically?

Uh, it's the small ones are about 30 pounds.

Okay.

So they're not too bad.

It's about size of car battery.

Yeah.

It's taller than that.

But yeah, about the same displacement,

but a little taller.

And so theoretically you can like carry it on the bike somewhere.

If you want it, if you want, if you have two small batteries,

they can go on the bike together because they're the same size

and space as a one large bag.

Okay.

So we have a 2.2 kilowatt hour battery and a 5.5.

Gotcha.

So the 5.5 takes up the whole battery box and the 2.2 is half.

Um, and the 2.2 will do about 50 ish miles on a charge in the city.

Okay.

And then the 5.5 will do 120.

Gotcha.

Um, but yeah, so theoretically you could take two of the 2.2s with you

and just swap them when one dies out.

And these things are pretty small.

They're like, they're more like seven, eight size motorcycle size.

Yeah.

They're like more like Ceron or whatever.

Yeah.

But I think the differentiator is that it's street legal.

Yes.

Like ours are fully street legal.

They're highway legal.

They go 75 miles an hour.

Um, they're, yeah, I mean it's, it is a motorcycle.

So it's plated, has, uh, turn signals, lights, yeah.

All that kind of stuff.

Horn, all the legality things.

Yeah.

Unlike a lot of the stuff coming in from China that doesn't have a van,

can't be registered, doesn't have headlights, all that kind of stuff.

And it's more, it looks more like a super 73.

It's a bit bigger than that.

And those have pedals, but yes.

Right.

Yeah.

That, that form.

Yeah.

Sure.

It's, it's like a cafe style.

Yeah.

Smaller.

So land motorcycle.com.

What are we talking about?

Land moto.io.

Okay.

Yeah.

It was 2020, man.

I know.

You know.

Anyways, for the folks out there, go check them out.

Yeah.

Just search land moto.

You'll find it.

There you go.

I like it.

And that's land, like Cleveland.

Very cool.

Oh, the land.

The land.

Yeah.

How else would you spell land?

Exactly.

Okay.

It's like land, you know, like, I don't know.

What is IO?

No.

It was back when everybody was doing coins.

And, you know, it's like cat, like catering.

Yeah.

Okay.

I just think, well, there, because some of these like my is Malaysia, right?

And there's like some of these suffixes or whatever do actually represent a country.

And, and some companies will use said countries because they do nefarious

things or want to get around certain things.

Sure.

But not that, not that you guys are, but no, no, no.

Yeah.

No, it was, it's, it's one of those like tech founder people like used to like that.

Yeah.

Maybe, maybe grab a dot common.

Maybe even on that, you know, maybe.

Yeah.

My email is dot email, which is, I think is fun.

That's fun.

Okay.

I like that.

Art, how much time do you have?

So good news.

I am free.

Oh, congratulations.

Life just took the keys for me and she, her call, her last call was canceled.

So she's taking care of kiddo pickup.

Let's get into questions.

We had some questions on our Instagram feed.

Just a couple here.

Let's start off with Ben Roget says, I see a lot of new driver.

Please be patient bumper stickers in the Bay area.

What sticker would you like to make and apply to people's cars to call them out on poor behavior?

Um, I don't stop fully at the line.

How do I say that?

It's where they leave huge gaps between cars.

I leave a car gap between me and the light.

Oh, I know.

I like big gaps and I cannot lie.

There you go.

That's kind of like your favorite, which is I eat ass.

How about left lane is for passing in all caps with three exclamation marks.

Oh, that's good.

That's not a bumper sticker you would put on your car.

No, I thought it was to put on somebody that's doing poor.

I know we were supposed to say, like, I don't know what passing means.

You know, it's, uh, it's that kind of thing.

What's the old driver?

Like instead of student drivers, like I'm just an old man.

Japan has that obviously.

Oh yeah, sure.

Yeah.

The green and yellow is for new drivers and the yellow and brown is for ancient people.

And they have to have it because it's pissing shit.

Yeah, exactly.

But Japan is very good at not driving in the, in the fast lane.

Of course they're good at all that kind of stuff.

Like they're very good.

Yeah.

And they're considerate.

Yeah.

The lane is usually open.

You will find a truck driver.

Very considerate, but for the most part.

Yeah.

The old person logo.

This is according to Seinfeld is just a steering wheel with two knuckles

because they're driving like this.

Okay.

That's, that's an old joke with the, with the beehive hair sticking up.

Like ideally, what's her name?

Yeah.

Any others here?

Yeah.

I know what he's talking about.

Uh, something for like a slow car.

Like, you know, I mean, I like the sticker that's like your driver.

Please be patient.

Yeah.

If you think this is slow, wait till we go uphill.

I like that one.

Yeah.

VW buses always have that kind of stuff.

Yeah.

That's good.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Bobby Reed with the cars says, and I like this question.

Oh, okay.

Not that I didn't like Ben's question.

Moving on.

This one's more exciting.

Which rally inspired affordable production car?

No nine, five, nines.

Would you most want to daily?

So rally inspired production car.

Affordable.

Let me ask you that under 50 grand.

What's the cap for affordable?

Sure.

Yeah.

Under 50 grand.

Uh, let me ask you this.

The golf rally, did that actually compete?

Or was that just like a project that Volkswagen took on to like parts bin

something?

I think it was homologated.

I can look it up, but that's a good one though.

I think there was a golf rally car, but I don't think it was related to

the synchro rally car with box flared fenders.

And that's, that's my choice.

I think that is such a cool car and it's such a great daily.

It's an old car now.

Don't get me wrong.

Um, but that was sort of where my mind went and it's not crazy expensive.

I think there's still like 50 ish or less or a good one.

So that's pretty good.

That's where I went.

I mean, it's, it's rally inspired too.

It's not homologated, right?

So I think that definitely checks that box.

Fits the bill.

Fair enough.

Yep.

Now you got your, you got your sport Quattros of the world.

You've got your Delta.

That's not affordable.

You can do a Quattro and for 50.

Yep.

Erquacho.

Um, you also have modern, more modern stuff.

GR, uh, series of cars and yeah, all that kind of stuff.

Yeah.

Which is a lot of fun.

I like those a lot.

I think I would go the, I think it was the, uh, Cayman RS GT.

They had like a rear wheel drive class of FIA GT.

That's a good one.

And I know that it wasn't like a factory thing, but like if I built one that was

like that, like that'd be my, my daily rally.

Or you can go like the Jeff Swart angle, which is like any nine, nine,

nine, eleven and just like make it cool looking on a mobile one

or like valve lean, uh, livery.

You could also like any WRX.

Oh, absolutely.

The STIs of the world and those are all sub 50 really for the most part.

Totally.

But yeah, do you want all that drama though?

Like I feel like I want to be a little more low key maybe.

Okay.

It's just so what is it spoilers and turbos and all the, I mean,

I guess all the turbos, but, um, so what is it?

And also realistically, like I feel like an ER quattro would be awesome,

but I'd love an ER quattro over heating all the time.

And yeah, I mean parts availability is not fun these days,

but ER quattro would probably be my number one choice.

All right, dude.

Um, I know what I want.

I'm going to go manual.

Evo.

I like it.

Just plow over shit.

It's like good visibility or just cruising around town for me.

I'm not hauling ass that much really.

So, and they're really slow.

Nice utility hatchback, you know, definitely.

It's not your thing.

It's not really really inspired, but I kind of ER quattroed my,

uh, a three a little bit.

Oh yeah.

The white wheels and the decals and everything.

And then you kind of ruin that Audi S six.

Yeah, I did.

I definitely did.

That was cool.

You still have it, right?

I do.

Oh, do you?

Uh, same setup.

No.

Like on KO twos or whatever it was.

Yeah.

3 2 3's are cool.

Those are 3 2 3 GTX.

Yeah, those are sick.

That would be a really fun.

Those are a lot of fun.

Uh, two guys on the round cat rally have,

cause they don't live in America.

They have bug eye STIs,

which that's kind of cool.

Yeah.

Adam from Sotomona has only offered to let me borrow it when

I was there in Japan for the last week, uh, for the rest of

the week.

But, uh, I think over there, that's a really cheap car too.

Like,

I think probably like under 10 keg.

Yeah.

The early ones too, the GC eights or whatever they're called,

like the 22 B body style.

Those like the WRX version of that are 10 grand all the long

there.

Yeah.

And those are really nice.

I thought that that was going to really kill the,

like when those became importable,

I thought it was going to kill the 2.5 RS market,

but people still pay the premium for clean 2.5 RS is,

I'm surprisingly,

even though the WRX is a much better car,

but not,

not registrable here at least unfortunately.

I haven't seen them over here though of you.

Very rarely.

Everyone just seems to swap the ones that we have.

Yeah.

What about the, uh, we're skipping out on all the French cars.

You have Renault,

Magans,

you got,

there's the 2.5 BTI's and Citroen C threes,

DS threes,

BTX,

whatever the hell it's called.

Yeah.

That's what I want.

Yeah.

I would love one of those,

but again, like parts available,

if you think parts availability for a Quattro is bad,

it's going to be real bad for a BX for TC.

I'm sure it's really bad.

The one that,

that everybody that including Chris Harris says is like the

best one is the route.

It's the,

it's the shit.

What is it called?

I think it's called the rally, right?

It's a Clio rally or something.

Oh,

you know what I'm talking about?

There's the Williams one,

Clio Williams.

Yeah.

And then there was the,

which is cool,

but this is the early one.

It's carbureted.

It's like a lighter version of the 205 GTI.

I think it was for the,

the UK market only family did.

Yeah.

Oh,

106 rally is it?

Yeah.

106 rallies.

So,

what's his face?

D Tam Scott just drove one and he was telling me that it was

like one of the most fun cars he's ever driven.

It's a 1.3 liter.

There was a face to where the 1.6,

I think the one that he had as a 1.3 liter.

So they're super,

super gutless and it's just like a total momentum thing.

That's fun.

All right.

That's so mint says select a three car garage all from the

same country.

Wrinkle is it can't be a country that makes a car you currently

own for the purposes of this exercise.

Paloma counts as both German and Japanese.

All right.

I don't know what a Paloma is.

So it can't be from anywhere of cars that you currently own.

Yeah.

I'm screwed.

You have like 30 cars in there.

Do you own a Japanese car?

I do.

Well, I own Japanese bikes.

French?

No French.

I would love a French.

So that's probably where you're going to go.

Yeah, I got to go.

British stuff?

I have had, but I don't.

You don't right now.

Then British is in there too.

Yeah.

You're Korean, full Korean.

That's true.

Fuck.

I was killed here.

I got both my German and Japanese without one car.

I'm going French.

I want a DS cabriolet.

I want a Bugatti Royale convertible Roadster and a,

it's a good French utility vehicle that I'm not thinking of.

Do they make like a Sprinter van equivalent Citroen or Renault?

It's probably your mini van.

Renault does.

Yeah.

Well Citroen does too.

They had the, the, the straight side.

Oh right.

The early ones that are like our all coffee carts now.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with the nicest newest van from Renault.

So that's it.

That's all my, I'm going with is a 50 billion dollar Royale.

It's pretty good.

That's all.

All right.

Here we go.

LM002.

Nice.

355.

Damn.

Not good.

And GTA style, alcoholics build.

Why not a 288 GTO instead of a 355?

Oh yeah.

I guess I could do it.

Oh, here we go folks.

I was trying to, for some reason I was trying to be sensible.

Like if any of these cars.

Oh, LMO, LMO too.

Let's start there.

Let's start up there.

And then we're going to go.

No, nevermind.

All right.

F 355 gets replaced by the F 40.

And then I got my GTA style build all car.

I want the carbon body car with the Gen V fake carburetors.

So it's going to be ITBs, no carburetors for me.

And LM002 is my, my, my SUV, my, my practical car.

I love it.

Wow.

I'll probably, I'll go, I'll go Japanese, I guess.

I'll do NSX type R.

And then I'll do like a, what is it?

Like a V is a V 12 Toyota.

Is it crown or what's the century?

Century, century.

So later model.

Yeah.

The last of the V 12.

Yeah.

The last ones.

And then I don't know what, what else do I have to do?

I guess I could just go with like another sports car or something.

I'll go for a vintage.

I'll do a, I got a fair lady Z.

Like one of those really cool engine ones.

Early ones.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Love it.

All right.

What do you got, Brad?

I'm going to do something weird and go with Spain.

What a friend.

A sea yacht.

No, get a, get a Pegaso.

Okay.

Oh, good question.

So many choices.

Maybe like a, oh God, that's weird.

I'd have to look it up, but I know they made some cool sports cars.

Oh yeah.

And you're going to do a motorcycle tour.

It's like a, I got it.

Where is it?

No, I would do Swiss.

Monteverdi.

Yeah.

There's Swiss.

And then I would do a Hispano Suiza.

Oh, the new one.

The new one.

Dude.

If you went new,

I'd have to kick you off the podcast.

That's the most proud answer ever.

It is actually.

He'd be like, they're not bad.

He'd be like, no, like, have you seen the interior?

It's ugly, but it's electric.

And it's kind of.

No, they're kind of another.

Not even close.

And then like Seat did a collab with Porsche in the 80s.

Seat is.

Yeah, Seat.

Yeah, Volkswagen.

But yeah, they had a turbo charged.

I think it was an Ibiza in the like late 80s.

That would be just like a fun little hatchback.

You have art.

How do you pronounce that car?

Seat Ibiza Ibiza Ibiza.

Is that what we're getting at?

That's all I'm looking for.

Dude, there.

Well, there's also a Leon Cooper.

Art.

Okay.

Let's move on.

Dude, they had some cool little hatches in the 90s too.

I mean, it's all it's all Volkswagen stuff.

So it's based on like a mark three.

Yeah.

It's like Skoda.

Seat.

All the same shit.

Kind of like their logo too.

It's cool.

Yeah.

All right.

Jeff Wise is asking what do you envision your retirement will look like?

And what will you be doing with cars at that time?

Wow.

This is a good one.

Yeah.

This is like getting a little too deep.

My wife has asked me this.

I was like, I'd like to have just one project car that I can tinker on in the garage and

go through them, right?

But not more than that really just one.

It's like, yeah, maybe it's a, you know, an old car that needs a little love or some,

a bigger project that takes a while, but just something like that to kind of keep that

going.

That's not the only car I would have or drive around, but just one little project in the

garage retirement style.

What about you guys?

I feel you.

Yeah.

I want to get a split, split window Corvette.

Uh, Denim with a new balances, whatever that, whatever the, the model number they are.

Yeah.

I can see it.

High socks.

I can see it now.

And I'm a whole, you know, lawn, REI lawn chair, whatever it's called, a little camping

chair rather.

And, um, maybe the specs for the car, you know, you got to print out the specs.

Need some A frame of some kind.

Pretty good.

Maybe I'll have Lane do like a really sweet one.

Like, like, like pen striping.

No, no, dude, just laminate it.

Lane.

A laminated piece of paper.

I was going to say, you need to go to like a party store now.

Yeah, exactly.

The sign says, uh, airbrush.

Oh, that's nice.

The sign says, look, look, but don't touch.

Absolutely.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

Um, maybe have like a skeleton in the passenger seat or some shit.

You know, hopefully.

Yeah.

Marilyn Monroe cut out.

Yeah.

Even though she was already dead by the time the car came out, it doesn't matter.

And then you got to have that somewhere around the car.

You got to have that one painting of the diner where you can see all like,

yes.

Yeah.

You probably have the dog poster too.

Like the dogs.

Play poker.

I love it.

Little ass grass or cash sticker somewhere.

Yeah.

Those are good.

Um, yeah, I'd probably, I don't know what my retirement looks like in the,

in a sense, but as far as cars, uh, probably just have my 911 and then

I'll have a, all the 914, dude, product car.

Heck yeah.

Because I need to get one.

Perpetual.

But at that point in life where you want a 914.

Hell yeah, dude.

Come on.

Why wouldn't I?

Because you're going to roll into it on the ground.

He's fine.

Don't worry about it.

It'll be fine.

Or in and out of right too.

I don't like this anymore because Brad's now rubbing off on lane.

What are you going to get?

What car are you having?

What's your project car that you're not rolling in?

It's probably going to be like old Mercedes Benz, which is like a pie.

Stately.

In those springs and those seats could cut your leg or something.

That's true.

But you're, you're over there and you're, uh, hey, I'm sitting on the ground, dude.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm young at heart.

That's right.

What I would really like to do is, so this neighbor that I have, he lives four houses

down, the guy with the LPN 110 and he's got a bunch of cool shit.

Um, he's very retired.

He's like in his late sixties and he ships his cars around and does rallies and drives

all over the world.

Like he, I mean, that's like that's, that's what I would like my retire to be.

That's the baller, baller style.

I did also go like ship my personal car to like the Amalfi coast and drive that

or ship it to wherever or participate in like Mila, Milia and shit like that.

Like that would be epic.

That would be the dream.

I am hoping to be retired in like 10 years.

Okay.

Pretty solid.

And I think honestly, like as much as my tastes and cars have changed and I'm like

ADHD and whatever, I honestly think that I have the cars that I'm going to have.

Okay.

Forever.

You're set.

This is it.

Yeah.

And there's definitely some stuff that like I could probably move out the ACR and get

something else in, you know, I could have one space that like rotates, but I think

the 996 is like my forever car.

I'm never going to get rid of the 912 and then we'll have like a daily driver.

Okay.

And then your retirement, how do you envision it?

You're going to be driving a van around the country.

That's right.

Yeah.

Motorcycle in the back and now we've always said that we want to retire to a place in the

summer where there's pine trees and a place in the winter where there's palm trees or

the other.

Yeah.

That way around.

Yeah.

That's the right way around.

So like Palm Palm Springs and like Montana or two places.

Yeah.

Two places.

Well, I mean, yeah, your snowboard style.

Yeah.

I mean, that's that's definitely a dream.

Yeah.

A lot of folks.

All right.

Alpha addiction.

Alpha.

What would be your top three DWA fantasy rally destinations outside of the US?

Also, when will the classic rally entries open up?

Great question.

We, uh, we've been asked this question many times.

Um, let's just say top, the top number one destination, if you could choose to do a rally

somewhere, uh, not in the US, where would it be?

Oh, right now I have Japan on my mind because I was just there and I think it would be good

to do a DWA rally over there.

My number one is Mexico, but it is not possible at this current junction.

But, um, yeah, I mean, it is possible.

They do the, the Carrera there.

And I mean, it's just, it's, you just have to be in cahoots with the right people.

It's kind of the key thing, you know?

Um, yeah, I don't want to have to be in cahoots with people that go drive around.

Yeah.

Those one dudes do the other rally down there too.

Yeah.

There's, I mean, people do it.

Slow Baja was just,

I'm not saying you can't do it, but the places that I want to go to are, are like, uh,

Mitchell O'Conn and, um, some of the deep like mountain terrains.

It's just, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's risky.

I agree.

Um, as my cousin says, es puro amarillismo.

There's a lot of yellow journalism.

And so it's like a lot of sensationalism.

Absolutely.

I will be, I'm not afraid of it to go like by myself and take precautions, but to go

with like 50 people in cars and pull up to spots and hotels.

And it's just a little bit actually better though.

Like, cause if you're just like an isolated tourist with like a fancy car, like you can

get taken advantage of, but if you're a group of people, like it's, it's not, I don't know.

I didn't, I didn't say fancy car.

I just meant like by myself, like on vacation in a land rally, right?

Like a DW rally.

That, that's just what I'm saying.

Is that, yeah, you're out.

You're not always going to be with the 50 people.

You're going to be by yourself at some point.

Oh, I see what you mean.

I think, I think you'd be fine.

Yeah.

I've done.

But, uh, the places that I want to go are, are less.

I feel you.

I mean, I know.

I mean, it's, we've talked about some of those roads and like where those regions and yeah,

there is, that's where you, like some of those rural mountain roads are where the cartels

operate out of cause they're out there growing all their shit.

Right.

So yeah.

Um, and you can end up in the wrong place very quickly.

Um, yeah.

Great.

Epic.

And I would love that.

Uh, Japan's definitely, you know, as Lane said, but I feel like, um, doing something in

the UK would be really cool too.

Like, um, that's another one that is of interest to me.

Like there's so many epic roads up there and it's really beautiful.

Um, and, um, we can, I feel like Scotland or what are we talking?

I would.

Yeah.

I would want to do, I would want to go north up into Scotland and then crossover, like

along the left side of the country and then into Wales.

I feel like there's a lot of really epic stuff out there.

Yeah.

And also just from like a car culture standpoint, I feel like we can incorporate a lot of good

stops, right?

Like visiting people, like shops and, you know, museums and tracks and all that.

There's just so much history there for like automotive.

Yeah.

There's so many good like shops and resto mod places going on and stuff like that.

They're like, no, quite a few of them.

So it's just a matter of connecting the dots.

Yep.

I'm apparently doing one in Canada next year.

Oh, whereabouts?

Uh, it's called the Alcan 5000.

5000?

5000.

Is that mean 5000 miles?

Kilometers.

No miles.

Are you driving a van?

Don't do it.

I'm going to drive the Cayenne.

Don't do it.

It's mostly off road too.

It's like Nova Scotia or where is this thing?

Scooter.

Uh, it's, uh, it's I think 12 days.

Um, and it's Alex Stadel and I are going to go.

It's too many miles.

It is a lot of miles, but also take, take into consideration.

I have to get there from Ohio.

So for me, it's going to be more like 10,000.

Don't do it.

It'll be fine.

Um, metaworld.

Cool.

Last question.

What is the dream Radwood SoCal venue?

I got one.

Well, the, the original was, uh, wasn't it the doing a hill

climb at, um, first castle, first castle?

That's not Radwood.

But, um, well, yeah, that was, that was what inspired different

events.

Yeah.

Which would be more like a, uh, goodwood style for the peak

of herst castle, like 20s and 30s.

Um, yeah.

But I mean, you'd have modern stuff just like goodwood does,

but that was like the, uh, the idea there is yeah,

the Hearst heritage, which still may happen someday.

We'll see if I can get the right people in the room.

But, uh, mine would be, I mean, you're asking for my dream,

right?

Disneyland is you'd have like different experiences in

different worlds, uh, based, based on the cars.

Like, like the Lufka Colt that was at.

Yes.

Exactly.

Nailed it.

I mean, that's an amazing venue, uh, the universal studios

backlight.

Star Wars area.

I think like all the futuristic stuff, Deloreans and things

of that.

Wedgie.

Yeah.

Digital dashes and kind of stuff.

Yep.

And then, you know, you'd have off-road stuff and like the

Wild West zone, uh, Thunder Mountain Railroad and Splash

Mountain and stuff like that.

Pretty cool.

Maybe even take over the, the cars area of like what's it

called?

Not Disney California.

California adventures.

Dang dude.

Now you're really onto something.

Yeah.

Corn dogs.

Be good.

Uh, this will happen for sure.

Right.

That's a pretty good venue.

It's hard to beat.

Hard to beat.

Um, otherwise like, I was thinking that downtown, uh, downtown,

but like rodeo drive, uh, Beverly Hills with the palm trees

and the, but they do car shows on there.

It's not really a Radwood style zone.

And downtown LA is not that cool.

No.

Cause.

So.

No, it's not.

I, it would be tough, but I've always wanted to do like, uh,

LACMA.

Oh, LA art museum.

Yeah.

Modern art museum.

That'd be cool.

Yeah.

I need like old mall school.

Uh,

That post garden or whatever where there's like 65 lamp posts in

one place.

I haven't been there.

It's, it's really neat.

All right.

What about you?

La Brea Tarpets.

What are you thinking?

Power plant and give me an abandoned decommission power plant.

That's my dream.

Uh, there is one in Oxnard.

Don't copy this plan and do it because I'll be very angry.

Um, and it is bookable.

I've looked into it, but I just don't think that we can draw

enough people to Oxnard.

Um, and it is a, it is exactly what we would want or what I would

want at least.

It's like, it's got multiple structures and you can go like in

it and all around like curate cars all in there, like just for

the photography, like that would be epic.

And then you also have a huge lot adjacent to it.

So you can have like, you know, you can do something like a

little Gymkhana motor sporty thing.

And then on the other side, it's the beach.

You're like right on the water.

Um, there's that one.

I, every time I pass by the redondo beach power plant that's

supposed to be decommissioned, like every 20 minutes, they've

been talking about it.

That's another one.

That's, that's really interesting.

Uh, it looks really cool.

And again, it's right on the beach and like just the photos and

the curation that you can do in there.

I feel like it would be really awesome, but, um, that would be

my, my ultimate.

I'd say pretty good.

Shut down lax.

Ooh, I like that.

There's a lot.

We kind of ran.

Yeah.

Cool stuff.

I think Venice would be cool.

Like on the boardwalk there with like the skate park and the

muscle, you know, like the workout area, like that whole

like center of Venice would be super sick.

And it's so like TNC, surf and sport kind of thing.

Like, uh, it's so California games.

I want to revise your answer.

It's still an amusement park, but, uh, which one?

Santa Monica pier.

Oh yeah.

You get the beach vibe.

I've seen that before.

Somebody's with the amusement park and our, our, uh, Kota in

Austin, November 15th, come to Austin, Texas for Radwood,

but at Kota they have now it's called Kota land and they've

built a bunch of roller coasters and they're trying to turn

into actual amusement park.

I don't know how successful that'll be, but they got a ways

to go.

I was just there a couple weeks ago.

Well, not so Cal, but I've always thought the board beach

boardwalk in Santa Cruz would be amazing for a car show.

That'd be so sick, dude.

I know.

Um, and if you saw the movie Bumblebee, they, they had all

those 80 cars, 80s cars out on the, in front of the boardwalk

and it looks super rad.

Um, but just imagine it there and then also inside.

Yeah.

Be super sick dude.

Dude, I'm trying to find, um, dang, it's no longer there.

I think I remembered looking for this like there cause, um, uh,

I wanted to like a steel mill would be sick too.

Right.

And like from the, remember the Terminator two, uh, steel meal.

Yeah.

Um, I was looking for that.

I remember looking for it years ago and it looked, it's been

decommissioned forever and it's no longer there, but like that's

also a really cool, like industrial, like really photogenic

space that I think would lend itself well and sort of thing.

And we could vote on the shittiest car and dip it in metal.

Yeah.

I mean, one that we were trying to get a while ago was that,

and I thought it would be amazing would be that, uh, Childish

Gambino video was shot there.

Yeah.

Uh, it's a firestone plant.

Yes.

And, uh, we were trying to get it and then they were like,

no, we're tearing it down a month and it was sat there for five

years.

It might still be there.

Yeah.

That's a story.

It finally did get torn down.

Yeah.

But that was awesome.

It was multiple buildings and it was just like huge, tall

ceilings and windows and just like kind of like what we have,

what we have at the current one, but like more grand and even

cooler.

Yeah.

There's, um, uh, a video actually shot there.

It was Jim Conner.

Yeah.

Jim Conner might have been the last thing they shot there and

then I reached out again and then at that point they had started

a demo, but I feel like it's like a community college now or

something.

Hmm.

Oh, and then there's a, I don't know if they're still

running it out, but the Tustin blimp hangers were really cool.

Those forever and then one burned down, but then there's still

another one, but I bet they're probably.

I reached out and I got quotes on it and the amount of money

was reduced.

Oh, I know.

I know.

We talked to him too.

And then there was like other hurdles, but yeah.

To open one of the doors was like 10 grand.

Oh yeah.

That was right.

They had to like bring a generator out and like, it was like

more than that too.

Yeah.

Multiple people involved in permits and it's crazy.

Totally crazy.

Yeah.

But that kind of stuff is so cool.

All right.

It just shows, you know, we're real out here.

We're doing real things to a live.

It's trivia time.

We've got a list from a website called motor junkie.

It looks AI generated, but either way we're going to go down

this list.

This is the top 10 weirdest brand collaborations and

automotive history.

I'm going to tell you the company that they, the, the

collaborated brand and you tell me what car.

Oh, I like this was part of it.

I'm into it.

First one to shout out wins.

Oh shit.

Okay.

Cause we got three of you guys.

Ready.

Gucci edition.

Holy Fiat 500.

Fiat.

Bam.

Wow.

Art was there, but Brad got it.

Well, there was also, there was also a Caddy, right?

Or was it?

I think a long, long time ago, but I'm, I was looking for Fiat

Brad is, and by the way, what a weird color.

Well, they're Italian.

There's that.

I guess.

Yeah.

Oh, by the way, I saw one of those Aston Martins the other

day.

The smart car.

Yeah.

I saw one of those.

It's a IQ.

Kind of a red option.

I would love to have one.

It was like an option for your Aston.

Right.

You could take a box and they would send you.

And it was only to bring their mission.

Please.

Cafe.

Right.

All right.

Iron man edition.

Oh.

No.

Toyota.

Nope.

I saw one the other day.

It's more pedestrian.

Oh God.

It was like a Hyundai Santa Fe or something.

You're right on the brand.

Tucson.

Closer.

Hey, we think Audi are.

I don't even think these two dummies know the car.

No, we don't even know.

And we're going to be the closest to it.

What?

What size?

It's a hatchback.

Oh, it's a hatchback.

So like a lot.

It's named after a place in America.

Sedona.

Hey.

Lane.

Kona.

I thought Sedona.

You're right.

Kona had some other co labs, other.

They had.

Kona edition.

The Ford Focus, right?

Everyone who thinks of Iron Man and the Marvel.

Yeah.

Kona.

It was right on the top of my head.

Right there.

Yeah.

That's that makes a lot of sense.

The.

Star Wars.

Rogue one edition.

That's it.

Nissan Rogue.

Oh shit.

I was going to say charger.

Like as I remember there was that commercial with all the

white chargers.

Rogue one.

Yep.

Which makes.

Perfect sense.

All right.

Sad.

We're going back to Radwood era.

Lacoste.

What was that?

God.

Lacoste.

The.

Alligator.

Yeah.

Tennis.

It is a French.

Vehicle.

Radwood era.

I mean.

I don't know.

We're no on core.

We're no Clio.

No, you're close.

Very, very, very close.

Plymouth acclaim.

I don't know what was that one.

That acclaim.

Is it a Twingo?

It is a Pujo 205.

Oh dude.

Twingos are so sick.

I actually really like those.

They're so cool.

Like they're they have these really like very, very 90s

interiors and like.

I feel like actually how much are those?

Because everybody's all on the fucking fiat panda thing.

Like how much?

Yeah, they're they're importable and they're.

Yeah, they're very cool.

They're definitely on my list.

But like I said, I can't buy any more cars.

This quirky cab collaboration resulted in limited run hatchback

featuring Lacoste signature crocodile badge subtly placed

in the car's body panels.

Special white paintwork and green green accents.

Put a big green alligator on my car subtle.

Yeah.

Next up.

Levi's.

Oh, I know.

No, it was a AMC Pacer.

Yeah.

Very close, but not there.

Wait, it wasn't the Pacer?

Not Jeep.

Not the Pacer.

AMC Grimlin.

No Grimlin.

On the phone.

They had the full Levi interior, dude.

You got that right.

That is a hideous vehicle.

It's pretty cool though.

I'm going to skip this one because the picture they posted.

So it's a Lamborghini Diablo alpine edition.

And look at the photo they put.

Oh, geez.

Come on, guys.

Yeah, close enough.

It's a McLaren.

Close enough.

That's like Dallas Buyer's Club.

Yeah.

That was bad.

It happened in 1987 or whatever.

There's a, what was it?

All right.

First one to say it wins here.

Harley-Davidson edition.

Ford F-150.

Truck.

You hear me?

Truck.

Oh, we heard you.

Ford F-150 is the correct.

Did that have salt, tannery, leather?

I think it did, right?

Really?

Yeah, because from Sankers?

Yeah.

Oh, it doesn't specify that here, but that's cool.

Adidas edition.

Holy shit.

Which I've never heard of this and you think it would be.

Would it be German?

Huge.

It is German.

Is it an Opel?

BMW?

Not an Opel, not a BMW.

Mercedes.

No.

Mercedes Adidas is weird.

It is a Volkswagen.

Yes.

Okay.

Polo?

Close.

I mean, it's a Golf.

Yes.

But what?

I've never heard of this.

Golf Country?

It's GTI.

Oh, wow.

What the golf GTI Adidas?

Dude, give me one of those.

Featured distinctively sporty elements such as Adidas,

Iconics, Triple Spy, Stripe Motif.

Suttles running along the car's interior fulstery.

Branding.

Oh, dude.

Branded badges.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

That's part six, right?

Yeah.

Yep.

Oh, it's late.

All right.

Last one.

Last one here.

Call of Duty.

Wow.

I don't know.

What a trash.

Yes.

Jeep.

Oh, that makes perfect sense.

What a trash, trash, just vehicle, you know?

What do you got?

Call of Duty.

Dude, I saw a watch company like Hamilton watches just came

out with a call of duty edition.

So bad.

Nice.

I mean, the watch looks totally fine.

It just has it on the back of the case, but still.

You're like still.

What a garbage collab.

That's a podcast.

That's all we got, folks.

Brad, thanks for joining us.

Dude, I was looking for easy ones like K2.

I'm not going to throw you those little longer hands.

Oh, there was a Focus Kona.

Oh, yeah.

Focus Kona was cool.

That thing looked good.

It was built built.

It was.

It was too.

Had those graphics on the side.

I would have given it rad.

Oh, you guys had.

We were talking about like Time Warp or something, you know,

because it was accessory because it had the bike and yeah,

but it was just not quite there.

Yeah.

When it pulled in, I was like, oh my God, I think it's the

bike that's original.

It is.

That's pretty cool.

I know it is color coded.

But it had like flashy wheels and like a chromed out engine

bay stuff in the engine bay.

I was like, I'm sorry.

Yeah.

I was looking for Eddie Bauer.

Come on.

I'm not going underhand on you.

If you'd left the hood closed, it would have been.

I think you're right.

Oh, what was that one that Farrah had?

Oh, yeah.

The Plumice or the Mercury Villager.

What the hell was that?

It was a not a condition.

Not a condition.

That's rad.

That's so random.

All right.

Thank you for joining us.

We'll see you next time.

Thanks for having me guys.

Thank you.

Coming around.

See you.

Landmodo.iq.

Oh yeah.

Landmodo.io.

Yeah.

Landmodo.

We're all underscores on everything too.

Landmodo on Instagram.

All the things.

All right.

Try to find it.

Bye.

Yeah.

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