The Ford Bronco is a type of SUV made to handle off-road driving, like dirt roads and trails. People talk about it a lot because it’s a well-known, iconic model. It’s the kind of vehicle a car enthusiast might own or show off.
They’re talking about a new Ferrari model called the “Luce.” The hosts say it hasn’t been widely reported yet, so there isn’t much public feedback—at least not in the usual places they follow.
Lucid is a company that makes electric cars. In this part of the show, they’re talking about a new Lucid all-electric SUV and how the price changes how people feel about it.
Edmunds is a car website that helps people research and compare cars. In this segment, they mention the editor-in-chief to explain where the hosts’ viewpoint is coming from.
“Entry level” just means the cheapest or most basic model in a brand’s lineup. They’re discussing whether Ferrari is trying to make a more affordable Ferrari to attract new buyers.
The Nissan Leaf is an electric car, which means it uses a battery instead of a gas engine. It’s made for everyday driving and charging at home or public chargers. People may mention it because its shape is easy to recognize.
Pete Brock was a well-known racing designer and team person. Here they’re saying he helped design famous cars like the Shelby Daytona Coupe and a 1963 Corvette, and he’s also tied to BRE racing.
A grand marshal is a special guest role at an event. It’s mostly an honor/ceremony—usually the person helps kick things off or gets recognized, not that they’re racing.
The Datsun 510 is an old Japanese sedan that became popular with racers. It’s known for being a solid, fun platform for building a competitive race car.
BRE is the name of Brock Racing Enterprises. It’s the racing team/brand connected to Pete Brock, and it shows up on the cars they brought to events.
Car
BRE Hino transporter truck
This is a race-team transporter truck branded for BRE and built on a Hino platform. They’re saying it’s painted and ready-looking, but it doesn’t have the engine installed yet.
The “split window” Corvette is a 1963 Corvette that has a distinctive rear window shape split into sections. It’s a recognizable look that Corvette fans often talk about.
The Shelby Cobra is a famous sports car built for high performance. It’s closely tied to racing, including the goal of being competitive in long-distance events like Le Mans. People talk about it because it’s an iconic name in sports-car history.
Car
BRE 510
The “BRE 510” is a Nissan 510 with a classic racing look tied to BRE. The Nissan 510 is a well-known old-school Japanese car that many people still love for how it handles and how it’s supported by parts.
Car
Hino transporter
A “Hino transporter” is a Hino truck used to haul cars. In racing and car shows, people use these trucks to move their cars and gear to the track.
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This is a museum tied to Roush Performance, a company that makes and races Ford performance cars. The idea is that they keep their historic race cars together in one place.
Roush Performance is a company that takes Ford vehicles and turns them into higher-performance versions. In the visit described here, they’re building new Mustangs and F-150s.
This is a Mustang Cobra race car from 1995. The cool part is it doesn’t use the later “modular” engine—it's built around a 351 V8 that’s been enlarged and run with carburetion for racing.
A “modular motor” is Ford’s later-generation engine design used in many newer Mustangs. Here, the point is that this race car didn’t use that newer engine type.
They’re talking about building a bigger V8 for racing. It starts as a 351 and gets enlarged to about a 6.1-liter size, and it uses carburetors to feed fuel.
In endurance racing, cars are grouped into categories called classes. “Won his class” means that car was the best in its category, even if it wasn’t the very first car overall.
“24 hours of Daytona” refers to the Rolex 24 at Daytona, a 24-hour endurance race where cars compete for both overall placement and class wins. In endurance racing, winning your class can be a major achievement even if you’re not first overall.
This is a Ford Mustang race car built by Roush Performance. The “Cobra” name here is about the racing setup, and the host is saying it’s the car Tommy Kendall used to win championships.
“Restored” generally means someone brought the car back to a better condition, often to look closer to how it did in the past. Here, the host is saying it looked freshly restored, but it still had a racing history.
A livery is the car’s design—its paint and graphics. “Bug livery” here means the car is being shown with bugs and dirt left on it, like it’s still fresh off the track.
PPF is a clear protective sheet you put on a car’s paint. It helps keep the paint from getting scratched or chipped. Here, they’re wondering if someone covered the car’s race look with that film to keep it looking the same.
Paint protection film is the clear coating that goes on top of a car’s paint. It’s meant to protect the paint from damage. The host is using it as a possible explanation for how the car’s “race dirt” was kept intact.
“Shocks” are the suspension parts that help the bike handle bumps. If they’re rebuilt and adjusted, the bike feels smoother and more controlled on the track.
A berm is a banked corner on a track. “Over the berm” means you ride up onto that banked part of the turn, which can make it feel more exciting and faster.
The Toyota Tacoma is a mid-size pickup truck. It’s designed to be tough and useful for everyday driving and light off-road use. In the podcast, it’s used as a reference because the truck’s shape is similar.
FuelFest is a car event in Southern California. The hosts say it includes car shows and drifting, plus other fun stuff, and they give the date and location so you can go.
This is the fairgrounds in Costa Mesa where the FuelFest car event is happening. The hosts mention it because that’s where you’d go to see the car shows and drifting.
Drifting is a driving style where the car is intentionally steered to maintain a controlled slide while the driver manages throttle and steering to keep it moving through corners. It’s commonly featured at car events because it’s visually dramatic and showcases chassis and tire grip control.
The Chevrolet Impala is a large, classic car made by Chevrolet. People mention it because it has a recognizable, older-style look and a long history. It’s the kind of car that shows up in collections and classic-car discussions.
This is Shifton Steer, and everybody's here today, except for Aaron, and except for Matt, Brad.
Everybody else is here, and it's going to be a great show with that group here.
Wait, no.
Hey, this is Brad's AI voice.
I've got Matt's AI voice.
We're going to see how this works out today.
Matt, how are you?
I'm good.
I don't have time to program an AI voice, so I got to just record it live.
But you're right.
We are down a man.
Aaron is running Aaron's around town.
Aaron's?
Aaron's?
He's running Aaron's?
Aaron's?
He's running Aaron's for his dad.
For his dad?
Yeah, his dad's coming.
I think he said his dad's coming up to visit or something, but isn't he supposed to be
playing a show in St. Louis?
No, they're starting rehearsals this week for their shows this summer.
And they use the studio up there.
They use the studio up there, and they've got a new keyboardist that's going with them,
so they've got to break them in and go through the whole thing.
What do they do about a week or two weeks of rehearsals?
They do about a week.
About a week, yeah.
I mean, I feel like they know most of the songs.
Well, it's when they bring a new keyboardist in, because they had that guy that was with
them for a while.
Like he's from Australia or something, though.
The young guy, and he was really multi-talented, and he was really good, and they loved him.
And then Journey went, you know, hey, we can put you on tour all the time.
And so he went with them because he worked all the time.
And then what was funny was they brought Journey's keyboardist over, and that didn't
work out, so now they've got a new guy coming in.
Yeah.
So the guy that they used on the best of both worlds tour, because they were limited runs,
you know, like 10 days in Vegas and a few days in the Midwest and stuff, Sammy understands
that like, hey, we're bringing this guy in, we're going to give him some gigs.
And of course, we want him to be sort of a stepping stone to him doing more work.
You know, Sammy would love to use him again, but you wanted to help advance his career.
And like you said, go on, you know, a much longer tour.
Yeah, you got to understand, people got to work.
You know, they're not all like Sam, where they're independently wealthy and fly around
on their private jet and things like that, you know.
Yeah, cool.
But yeah, Mikey and I went to dinner with our wives the other night, and we were talking
about the tour and everything like that, and that he's getting ready for.
And, you know, it's going to be a, it's kind of funny to us.
We're like, oh, they're going on tour.
It's kind of like, you know, a whirlwind, you know, because they do their thing, then
they come home, get ready to go, then they play all these dates on the
East Coast and then they head over to Europe and then Mike's going to take some time off
around Europe and then come home.
So it'll be fun.
It'll be fun.
But they're kind of like shorter stints because, you know, look, everyone's a little older.
Everyone's a little sore when you're doing that many gigs.
And, and a lot of times they either want to go home or like you said, take advantage
of where they are and go on a little vacation while they're there.
So yeah, it should be exciting.
It should be fun.
They'll be back in Vegas in September.
So maybe we'll be out there.
I didn't see them this last time because I was selling a house.
That's right.
In the middle of that, got that done.
And because we had it planned and then, well, yeah, had to, had to take the house sale when
I could.
So last week, I apologize.
I wasn't here.
Yeah.
Where were you, Matt?
My, my, my good friend Adam Krull, I got a star on the Walk of Fame in Hollywood and
they usually do those events kind of during the day.
Yes, they do.
And they have some fans come out and, you know, friends of Adams and some family and
stuff.
So I kind of helped that application process for him like over the years of making that
happen.
And so we went down to see it.
It was great.
Jimmy Kimmel said some really nice stuff and he was funny.
And Dr. Drew was one of the speakers as well.
And Brian Allen was there, which was funny because Adam had made a joke about Colbert
being off the air.
And Brian Allen is his media company is now taking that spot doing the comedy show that's
in that spot.
So he's like, oh, a little tension in the room.
But no, it was, it was good.
Joe McHale.
If you guys don't know Joe McHale, he's a comedian.
He's done animal control into the show community.
Boxing.
Wouldn't he?
Oh, maybe a long time ago.
Yeah.
That was where I remember him from.
Yeah.
And he's a car guy too.
I think he's got like an icon Bronco and a couple of other things that are really cool.
So he's good friends with Adam and he's so nice.
So he was there and yeah, a bunch of, you know, Adam's friends from entertainment and
you know, Sonny was there and Natalia was there as kids were there.
It was a good event.
So I probably missed a discussion about this car.
Maybe did you guys hear about this?
It's a Ferrari Luce.
Oh, did they come out with a new car?
They came out with a new car.
It hasn't been in the press yet, I guess, or I would have known about it.
It's interesting how like, at least in our bubble of automotive news, the whole world is
talking about this car, not a lot of like feedback.
And then so I talked about it on CarCast last week.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
You say that, but it's everywhere.
In fact, I even read an article about how even car people are going, that's a Ferrari.
You know, it's.
Yeah.
So we talked about it last week and we put the video up and someone was like, well, maybe
you don't like it, but it's already sold out.
And I was like, I know, I know it's going to sell.
I don't care.
It doesn't make it any better.
And so I'm sure there was a lot to say about that car.
Now, the performance numbers are super interesting.
I don't necessarily hate it as like, if you said this is Lucid's new.
All electric.
I would still super SUV.
I'd be go, OK, well, no, I would still like a robot.
Why?
The price.
All right.
Well, that's the other.
That's ridiculous.
Yes.
So I don't know what you and Aaron talked about in regards to this, but.
But on car cast, Alastair and I, and for those of you who don't know, he's the editor-in-chief
of Edmunds, we were saying interesting approach that Ferrari didn't try to make this as the
new entry level vehicle to Ferrari.
If it was $250,000 and they had a high performance, you know, EV and said, yes, you can get into
a Ferrari.
We want to sell a bunch of these.
Let's make this happen.
It's your new entry level.
And then all of the more expensive Ferraris would be the prestigious ones that have the,
you know, the more characteristic design style and things like that.
They didn't do that.
And I guess part of it is, is we understand that EVs are expensive to make and an EV with
that battery size and an EV with that performance is expensive.
Now I think this will end up being a highly profitable car for them because it's not $250,000.
It's $640,000.
All their cars are highly profitable.
But keep in mind $640,000 before tariffs, before taxes, before options, like you're
going to be spending.
That's an entry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're going to be spending $800,000 on this thing by the time it's done.
So I, that part I just, I don't get.
I like the interior.
I don't know that I love it for Ferrari.
I don't hate the look of it.
The look doesn't do anything for me.
They're going after the singer customer.
There was a, there was an interesting pose.
It's cheaper than a singer.
It kind of looks like the new Nissan Leaf and it wasn't Nissan USA, but it was like
Nissan of Europe posted photo of the Leaf and the Luce and then they're like, we're
flattered.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, I saw that one.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, that's, that's great.
So you got to kind of have to love social media.
If they were to do Ferris Bueller's day off like a remake, they wouldn't cast that car
as they would.
They would not.
They would not use this car.
They would not.
Unless he was a dot com billionaire and he was very young and he was making, you know,
like hundreds of millions from his bedroom and they, they wanted to put it in there.
Maybe, maybe they would.
Maybe it would be the car that they took out for the day and went to all the different
places.
The Ferrari Luce.
The Ferrari Luce.
Out here, maybe you, I don't know if you have this in Orange County as much as we do around
like Venice and LA is we have the food robots.
We have Coco.
No, we don't see those.
At least in my neighborhood.
We don't see them.
Okay.
So we have Coco.
Coco is this, it's like a cubby.
It's like a bin with wheels and it has big lights in the front that look like eyes.
And Coco is a food delivery robot.
So instead of Uber delivering your food, you'll see them like Coco does.
So Coco be like outside a sweet fin, you know, like, or a sushi place or pizza place.
And then you go in and they, they fill it with food.
And then Coco starts hitting the sidewalks and starts driving toward your house and delivers
you the food.
Oh, so Coco delivers it.
It's not like Coco's standing on the corner and you walk by and goes, Hey kid, you want
to, you want a taco?
No, although that'd be funny.
I'm not sure that was the voice it would use, but it'd be awesome.
Hey kid, you want a taco?
So what, what I saw in the California.
The back of the luchae and I'm trying to find out.
Yeah.
Where it looks like a teletubbie swallowed a Ferrari there.
The back of the luchae looks like, like Coco, right?
So here's the, there's the eyes, right?
That's the back of the luchae.
And then let's see if I can find.
Coco robot.
Find Coco's image.
There's Coco's face.
Coco.
I'm scrolling through images.
I don't know.
I saw something about Sam Altman.
Sam Altman owned Coco or developed.
Oh, I don't, I don't know.
There it was again.
Where is, I don't know why none of the pictures show Coco's face.
Go, go back up.
Go back up.
Yeah.
One more.
One more.
The white one there.
Is that Coco?
Yeah.
So it kind of looks like that.
Yeah.
But the front of Coco has the two.
It looks just like the luchae.
Yeah, it does.
It looks a lot like it.
It looks like the luchae is going backwards to deliver you a pokey bowl.
And it's in the one thing said Sam Altman was the backer of Coco robot.
Probably even makes sense.
But I see them everywhere and they are adorable, which I'm sure the luchae is adorable in person.
They're adorable now.
But when Sam Altman tells his robot army to start taking down everybody, that's what happens.
That's what's going to happen.
Like an eye robot.
What's going to happen with the test?
Exactly.
Okay.
So are you, do you think you're going to go to Monterey Car Week?
Oh, I thought you were going to say if I was going to buy one of these, because I was considering
it.
I've been thinking about putting the deposit down.
Yeah.
Just sell everything you own.
10%.
You're going to put 10% down.
You're going to sell everything you own so you can get an $800,000 EV from Ferrari.
That'll be $400,000.
I would only have to sell one of my buildings, Matt.
It'll be worth half as much.
Exactly.
I'll take an appreciating asset and buy a depreciating asset, because I won't be alive
30 years from now when maybe it's a classic.
I will tell you this.
If I was betting on FanDuel right now, wink, wink, I would bet the luchae loses its value
more than any Ferrari probably ever, because EVs just in general just don't really hold
their value.
I think the luchae is going to suffer from that as well.
I think you could probably start right now and go to FanDuel and place not a bet or a
wager, but a, do you know what I'm talking about?
Like all the new things where you place a prognostication and you can bet on it.
Yeah.
What do they call it?
Try to think what it's called.
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All right.
And I still haven't thought of what it is and I don't think you looked it up.
But there are what a lot of people are doing that.
It's what everybody's getting in trouble for.
We're getting military guys that are using bets to say that they're going to invade somebody.
There was a senator today that just got, did you hear about that?
That he was going to show up at, he went on and placed a bet that he would show up at
some big event and then he didn't show up on purpose because he had actually placed a
bigger bet that he wouldn't show up and manipulated the odds on it and made a bunch of money and
now they're...
Well, obviously he got caught.
Otherwise you wouldn't know the story.
Of course you're going to get caught.
Well, probably you're getting caught because it's like, who places a bet on whether a senator's
going to show up at some event?
All right.
So you guys talked enough about the Ferrari last week, so I won't spend more time on it
because there's other stuff going on.
No, let's just talk this whole, let's make this a luce special.
I think everyone's done with the luce already.
I was asking about Monterey Car Week because it's likely, we will see it up there.
I have got to be honest with you.
I don't think I'm going to make it again this year.
I don't have any sponsors.
I don't have any anybody and not that I can't afford it.
It's just, it's gotten so damn expensive.
It's very expensive.
It has gotten, you know, the last time I was up there, which has been four years now,
I hate to say, but that Airbnb we stayed in was 10 grand, man.
Yeah.
It was nuts.
And I'm like, I can't do that every year.
And I miss it because I really, really enjoy going.
It's such a great event, but it's also gotten overtaken by so many Instagram people and
stuff like that, that that's another reason.
It's a little crazy because all those, all those guys and girls are kind of all over the
streets and, and walking around in the parking lots, every, every sort of like kind of free
area that they're trying to get themselves into.
But it's starting, starting to look.
And I'm standing next to it.
This is a McLaren F1, you know, it's like.
Yeah.
There's a lot of that and also some dangerous things.
There's a lot of people just like in the middle of the roads.
But I'm sure you'll see the Ferrari Lute up there if you go for those of you that are
going.
Another interesting thing is Spiker is back and they're rushing to get the car back up
there.
Yeah.
And they're doing it like a countdown, I think on their website.
Wonder if they'll be in the same place they always were because they had an iconic place.
It was when you walked from the, the, the auction area at Pebble Beach over towards the, the
hotel area, you go through that little kind of vending area and there.
And I know this because back when I worked with Flexjet and consulted from them, they
sat right next to Spiker on the street that was blocked off.
And it was really, it was really kind of cool.
I don't know where they're launching.
Like, do they just bring a car and put it on like the Pebble Beach concept lawn?
Right.
Which is, I don't know if there's a fee for that.
I don't know how that works, but it's not a big booth and whatever.
Or do you think they're going to like launch at the quail?
Do you think they're going to like make that investment because they're back?
Where is their money from?
That's, that's, that's what it depends.
It really, how much money they have to relaunch because, you know, quail is expensive.
Quail is expensive just to go to, let alone.
And, and, and it's, and it's very restrictive on what you can do and can't do.
And again, we worked with Flexjet there and they were like, they pay all this money to
be part of it and then they get three passes and they're like, well, it's a long event.
We can't have people, well, the people that set up and their three passes to the first
crew that's coming in.
And as those people leave, they, it was like, wow, you know, it was, it was pretty crazy.
But that's how they keep it exclusive and how they keep it.
I love that event.
It's a great event.
I hold nothing against them there.
Yup.
Well, car weeks should be good if you guys haven't been following along that the Japanese
race cars are going to be one of the featured marks at the Rolex, the Motorsports reunion
at the track.
Oh, is that what it is this year?
It's, they're going to have, Pete Brock is going to be there.
I think he's going to be a grand marshal and Adam is going to be bringing, we've got a
handful of cars that we're bringing.
So he's racing the BRE 510, the Datsun 510, but we're going to be bringing, we're still
kind of working out the details, but the BRE Hino transporter truck, the privateer BRE
510, it's not fully built, but we've got it done and painted just no engine in it yet.
That's the yellow and white car.
It's still in the BRE graphics.
Pete Brock designed it, but it's the yellow and white car.
I don't think anybody's seen that car in a long time.
No, that one didn't ring a bell.
Who's this Pete Brock guy?
Pete Brock, he's this young guy.
He's this kid that used to work for Shelby and GM and had his, BRE is Brock Racing Enterprises.
He had a racing team.
He was a designer at Shelby.
He designed the Shelby Daytona Coupe.
They wanted a Cobra that was faster at Le Mans.
And he designed the Corvette, the 63 split window coupe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which he has original like sketches of framed in his house from back in the day, which are
really, really cool.
So we're bringing the BRE Roadster.
We're bringing the yellow 510.
I believe Adam's going to race the number 85, BRE 510, maybe have the transporter there
as well, the Hino transporter.
And then we'll see.
We're just kind of figuring out how to get everything up there and get it displayed.
I believe it's all at the track.
So I don't know if the quail is doing something as well.
I've still got a call over to them, but should be kind of fine.
So if you guys are into Japanese cars, vintage Japanese racing cars and stuff, there's going
to be a bit of that display going on.
So you're saying this whole year up there is going to be like Fast and Furious, huh?
Yes.
A little bit Fast and Furious.
I guess I haven't talked to Tommy Kendall, but I think he has an RX-7.
And the chicken car.
He has a chicken car, but that's not Japanese.
Japanese like chicken an awful lot.
You could kind of skirt it in there, I think.
Could possibly, possibly.
Maybe he brings his RX-7 up there.
I'm not sure what he's doing.
I should find out.
But yeah, there's some cool cars.
You want to pitch him on that whole thing about, you know, Chinese or excuse me, Japanese
chicken, you know.
And then I meant to ask you as well, have you ever visited the Roush Museum in Detroit?
I have not.
I have not.
So years ago.
Into the Ford Museum and some other museums, but not the Roush.
Yeah, so years ago, I'm not sure exactly how we got involved with it, but we were screening
the documentary of the 24 hour war.
It's Ford versus Ferrari at Le Mans.
Remember that one.
We were doing a screening of that with a Q&A session at the Henry Ford Museum.
And also during that time, like the Peterson Checkered Flag 200 Club planned like a trip
to Detroit and visit a few different things.
One of the places we went to was, I'm so sorry.
I'm forgetting his name.
I'm so sorry, buddy.
The guy who does the Tucker's.
Rob Ida?
Yeah.
Rob Ida.
Yeah, Rob.
And so we visited his place.
We visited the Henry Ford Museum.
And then I don't remember the whole group.
Somehow, I don't know, Adam and I ended up at the Roush Museum.
And you're going to tell me there's a chicken car there?
There is not a chicken car there.
But this was all coming around.
Pretty much everything Roush has raced over the years.
It's just been kept in this collection.
Talk about foresight going, you know, hey, we're going to just keep the racing cars
and build a giant museum for it.
And when things were bad in Detroit, I remember Roush buying up buildings.
I don't know, like pennies on the dollar.
So we visited Roush Performance.
So we saw the cars and trucks that they're building, the new cars, Mustangs, F-150s,
and some other building.
Then we went to the museum and some very, very cool stuff in there,
especially if you're a Mustang fan.
But one of the cars that was in there was a 1995 Mustang Cobra racing car.
So the Cobra didn't have the modular motor.
It was like a, it was a 351 punched out to like 6.1 liter carbureted car.
But kind of at the tail end, so Paul Newman raced that.
And his movie, I said, nobody's fool.
I think it's nobody's fool.
That movie, they scraped up a little bit of money from the studio to run the movie livery on that car.
And he won, I think he won his class at the 24 hours of Daytona in like third or something overall,
or maybe he's like eighth overall, but won his class in that car.
So it's a Daytona winner in that car.
And we saw that car 15 years ago, 12 years ago at that museum.
And we're like, if you ever want to sell this, let me know.
And nobody called, nobody said anything, but a big chunk now of that Roush collection,
a bunch of the racing cars, it's all going up at Meekum auction in Tennessee in September.
Really?
Yeah.
And one of the other cars was in there.
So that was the 95 Roush Mustang Cobra, but the 97 Roush Mustang Cobra,
which is the Tommy Kendall championship car where he won something like 11 of 15 races in that car.
That car is going up.
That's the, you might remember, it's like black and green and it's the all sport,
like the energy drink or the hydration drink.
Yeah, that sounds familiar.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was a very famous sports car racing in the sports car world, very famous car.
So that's cars going up.
Anyway, there's a bunch of the cars on the docket.
There's no estimates yet.
But the interesting thing about the Newman car is when we saw it, it looked like it was restored and was fresh.
But if you go to the Meekum site, I didn't know this.
They raced the car and because the 24 hours Daytona was the last race of the season,
they won the race, they took the car right back to Roush and didn't touch it.
So all the dirt and the bugs and everything on it was still there.
They removed that body.
They made a new body.
So when you buy the car, you get it with the original dirtied up Daytona 24 hour, you know, race result body.
And then you get an extra, like fully restored from scratch body on that car.
So there's a bug livery.
There is.
I don't know if they like PPF'd it or did anything because when I was at Goodwood years ago and Goodwood was right after Le Mans.
And and Porsche did their modern day Porsche, but they did the pink pig livery with the different like slices of meat, whatever.
And they they brought that car right from Le Mans to Goodwood and they said right when we took it off the track, we just put PPF over it.
Just dirt, bugs, everything like everything is just on it.
And they're like, I don't know how long it's going to last, but we're just going to keep it that way.
So I don't know if that's what Roush did.
I'm guessing if it's PPF now, that's not what they did originally because there wasn't a PPF.
It wasn't a paint protection film in 1995, right?
They just used superglue and, you know, kind of the wings of the little bugs that kind of superglue.
Yeah, I don't know how they did it, but maybe they just, I don't know, they just put it on a shelf.
Here's the thing.
It's like it doesn't have extra dirt on it.
So it's not like they put it on a shelf and it collected dust, you know, for 30 years.
It just it's exactly the way it was.
Put Tina to it.
Yeah, it's there.
Maybe they sprayed it.
Maybe they clear coated it or something.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm curious to see what they did, but it displays very cool because now you can get the card.
You can go, we're going to show it with the original dirty body.
Or if you want to race it like in Monterey, you can put the new body on it.
And so when we saw it, it had the new body on it.
But for me, at least for the pictures, for me, they put the old body back on it.
But anyway, there's a bunch of the Roush stuff that's up for for sale.
And we have no idea what the estimates are, but it has piqued our curiosity.
Pete.
Pete.
Yes.
Well, I'll tell you, I'm not sure if I'm going to make it up there.
But if I do, I'll come see you.
And if I don't, I'm still going on a vacation.
Are you going to the Barrett Jackson auction?
Well, yeah, I'm going to that.
I always go to that.
No, I mean the new one.
The one in Columbus, Ohio?
Yeah.
I am not.
I am not.
I thought about it, gave it some really good consideration.
And then I decided instead to take a road trip.
All right.
I'm going to, I'm taking a motor coach and going out on the road, man.
Are you?
I am.
I are.
I am, I'm going to go to, up to Utah.
And I'm going to go to all the Utah type places.
And, you know, see all the national parks and go to all those really cool places
that are up there, Moab and like that.
And I already got my place reserved in Moab at the RV park.
And then I'm going to swing across and back down and come back down through
the Grand Canyon and through Arizona and down to, what's the place I'm trying to think of?
Anyways, a bunch of stuff there.
Sounds well planned.
Yes.
And then my friend has a house up in the White Mountains in Arizona.
We're going to visit them, do some side by side driving and then cruise back home.
And, you know,
Are you going to rent a motor coach or are you going to try to come into your Mikey's?
No, I bought one.
I bought one.
Did you?
I bought a pre-vose, a 2024 pre-vose.
Did you use your Ferrari Luce money?
I did.
I did, but I didn't have any left.
I actually, I put it on my American Express card so that I would get the points.
And that's how I'm paying for the fuel is with the points that I use to buy.
The points?
All you had to do was buy a million dollar coach.
Yeah, exactly.
So I get a million points and that'll pay for my gas, my fuel.
No, I'm actually, I'm renting one and I've never done anything like this in my life.
I've never rented a, I mean, I've rented motor homes for like photo shoots and stuff like
that.
But I've never done one to actually take a trip where I have no schedule, there's no
car show, there's no Barrett Jackson, there's no, you know, it's just on the road.
What did you rent?
Like, do you know what the coach is going to be?
I rented a 30 foot motor home that has a V10 in it and, you know, it's, it's looks nice
in the photos.
Okay.
We'll see.
It's, but I'm going to go, go the extra trestle highway and look for aliens.
Okay.
I'm going to, I'm going all kinds of places.
And then you had to reserve some spots to camp or park it or whatever.
Okay.
I'll tell you the secret.
I talked to my brother-in-law into doing the same thing.
So he's leaving Nebraska.
I'm leaving California.
We're going to meet up in Moab, Utah.
And he's, he does this stuff all the time.
So he rented all the places and then I just pay him back.
I don't have to coordinate or do anything.
You know, it's okay.
So, cause he knew stuff like, Oh yeah.
Well, we want to go to parks that are what they call drive through pads.
You just pull in and park.
You don't have to back in or anything like that.
And some of them are like size restrictions.
Like if, cause you said 30 foot, which makes sense.
But some of them, like for the, for the bigger buses, they don't.
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
Um, the, um, it'll be fun.
I think I'm really, really looking forward to it because it's not like a,
it's like Moab is 10 hours away from, from here.
I got two days to get there.
That means I can have some fun along the way.
You know, it's not like I got a, oh, I got a white-knock loot and get there.
And you know, it's not that kind of vacation.
So doing that in July, Matt, doing that.
It's perfect because of how many energy drinks and how much you pee.
Now it's, you're taking the toilet with you.
That's what I'm hoping.
You know, it's got cruise control.
So if I got to take a pee, I just get up, walk to the back, take a leak and come back.
You're just like Murphy the dog.
You just drive.
I'll be back in two minutes.
Why couldn't it be like a Tesla where it has self-driving mode, you know?
Yeah.
I could be back there watching TV.
Yeah.
Can you imagine if they put self-driving mode in, you know, how many people would be
doing that?
I just went to the back to take a nap.
But this weekend, I talked about it every year.
This is the fourth year and I've been every time.
This weekend is Dirty Fest.
Okay.
And do you remember what Dirty Fest is?
I do, but hold on.
Before we get into that, I think we're kind of due for a break and I don't want to ruin
your rant.
No, we're supposed to have a break in about 15 seconds.
Okay.
Let's do that.
So I just wanted to be clear on that.
I knew it was coming up, but it was just 15 seconds because we were supposed to do it
at the 30-second mark and we just passed it.
Now we're late.
Okay.
We're going to go take a break right now.
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Okay, and we're back.
We're back.
Yeah, that's right. We're back.
And I was talking about Dirty Fest.
Dirty Fest is an event for those of you that are really into BMX,
which I know I bring it up because a lot of hot rod guys, a lot of car guys,
they love BMX because it was their first hot rod that they could have,
gave them the freedom and like that.
Well, Dirty Fest goes back to old school.
All the old pros come.
They show up.
All the bike manufacturers that are left show up and all the new ones that are in the scene.
And they build a retro track.
This year, it's going to be a downhill track.
It's going to be awesome.
It's probably going to put some old guys in the hospital.
It's going to be great.
Are you going to be one of them?
What's that?
Are you going to be one of those guys?
Heck, no.
I raced the first year and after that, I said,
I'll just show up.
I'll take a couple hot laps, but I'm not going to race because these guys get silly.
I mean, they get silly.
They get like way, way serious.
Let's put it that way.
And some of them, like the guy you just went past EC, Eric is a guy that rode for me at
Vision and he went on to be one of the top, you know, not only a top pro in BMX, but he
went on to a huge career in mountain bike racing.
And, you know, these guys, they're still, some of them are still in there like, you
know, 40s, so they really go for it.
They go for it seriously.
And some of the older guys go for it.
There's a couple guys out there that are in their 60s and they are fast.
They are fast and they're crazy.
Crazy fast.
So if you're into that kind of thing, Temecula, it's happening.
As you're hearing this for the first time on Friday, there's still time to go out there
because it runs Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
And it's a neat event.
They have a big midway out there.
They've got a bike show, huge bike show, which is just like custom cars because guys, there's
all the classes and the guys build their bikes.
And it's pretty, it's pretty cool.
You got to swap me.
So you, you did it a few years ago and raced.
Yes.
You raced in the class where everybody tapes ice packs to their knees.
No, come on.
What did you, what bike did you race?
I know you've been restoring some bikes and you have some frames and stuff around, but
did you have one that was ready to go or did you borrow that?
Well, I had a bike and I rebuilt it.
It was a 1977 power light.
Okay.
And I built it up with some alloy wheels and some, you know, everything era.
And Matt, I got out there and I realized that I forgot that I've grown and the bike hasn't
and it seemed a lot smaller, but I still podiumed.
I got third overall on my bike and the way they do it is not by age.
They do it by the age of the bike.
So they have an era for people that, and my bike was in the first era and it was like
up till 79, I think.
And so I raced, I raced that.
Look at that.
Okay.
A whole bunch of power lights.
Very similar to that.
This one says 1975.
This one says 1977.
Is that your bike?
Is it green?
No.
Mine's like that.
Blue.
Very similar.
There you go.
All silver components.
Yeah.
Very similar to that.
Okay.
So it was a fun bike.
It was a great bike to have back in the day.
So a few years ago, you took one of these BMX bikes out.
You raced it.
You jumped, raced.
Raced, jumped.
How'd you do?
I got third overall.
Really?
Yes.
How many people were in the race?
Five?
There were only two.
And I got third.
No.
No, it started out like about 20 guys.
And I should say, and there was one little girl in a tutu.
Because as I said, you sign up by the age of your bike.
And I get up there and there's this 12-year-old girl wearing a pink tutu.
And I'm like, she's in my class.
And they're like, yeah, you know.
And so we put her over the berm, got rid of her early.
And you know.
She won, didn't she?
Yeah.
But my buddy.
He smoked all you old timers.
My buddy who still races all the time, he gets real serious.
And he races a couple different classes.
I'm like, how do you race a couple different classes?
I'm so winded by the time I get to the bottom of the track that I couldn't push my bike back
up to be ready and go with a different bike, you know.
Yeah.
But he raced a couple different classes.
He regularly does very well.
But I rode his bike, which is an old Huffy Mono shock.
And the way they guys have these bikes set up, Matt, it's just like we would set up a car.
They've redone the shocks on them.
They've read, you know, set up everything to where they ride.
Great.
I was like, I didn't expect this to ride like this.
I'm getting in the shock mounted class, you know.
And I rode his bike last year down the track several times and way faster than I was on
my little, you know, my Chrome Molly bike.
So yeah, it was fun.
It's fun.
It's a great event.
It's really great to see a lot of guys I used to sponsor, guys I used to race against.
It's a really good, good time.
And then one of the greatest things is back in the day when I raced, when I raced pro
and like that, they never had beer afterwards, you know.
And they've got a brewery out there and they've got, you can get there.
You know how they do the special wraps and the special brews for events.
You got these like, you know, over the berm, you know, beer and they've got, you know,
all the great names and stuff like that.
So it's, it's fun.
And then they always have a, they have on Saturday night as their party, they have a guy that
brings in pit bikes, pit bikes are little 15 inch wheeled bikes, little mini bikes.
And they have all these guys that have been standing around since the race just drinking
beer and then they all register for it and they race around a different track.
It's a little bitty mini track and oh man, it gets exciting to watch.
Some elbows flying.
That's where it happens.
Oh, Dirty Fest.
This is year four and they're expecting 5,000 people this year.
So it should be a pretty good deal.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
So road trip this summer, Dirty Fest this weekend.
And the only thing I'm disappointed in is I didn't pick up one of those new Ram truck
t-shirts because I can't wear in that.
The Ram coma.
Did you see that, Matt?
I did.
I did see it.
It's funny.
So somebody in marketing decided they could do a shirt just like the designers could only
they forgot that AI, if you're not careful with it, doesn't do a very good job.
And their American flag had way too many stars and unless there's something we don't know
about and Trump has, you know, conquered a few more states that we didn't know.
And the biggest thing was that the truck looked like a Toyota Tacoma with a Ram grill and
they actually printed them, put them up on their site and then someone pointed it out.
I think it was mobile one, the website motor one, excuse me, not mobile one.
There it is.
You got it.
Ram tried selling a patriotic t-shirt with a Toyota Tacoma with a Ram grill.
How many stars are on there?
I'm curious.
We got 245 and we have 2345678 rows of five.
Yeah, I think they went a little overboard on the stars and the stripes.
Yeah, that's, that's so funny.
How did I don't think this even went through Ram, right?
Like this is just some, it's got to be some company that.
Yeah, permission to do it and.
I couldn't see how that would ever get through and I'm sure the person who did it no longer
is employed.
Because it's so weird.
It's so bad.
The only thing that would have been worse if the Ram's horn would have been
like the LA Rams logo or something like that, you know.
But here you are.
You're like, you're somebody at the company, somebody at Ram, right?
It's the Lantus and they said, all right, let's launch the shirts or somebody said, or somebody
pitched them, we're going to launch the shirts, you pay your fee, you have the graphic design
done, and then they just have AI do it and botches it, but they launch it anyway.
So now you're also thinking like, oh, I got duped into paying, I don't know how many thousands
of dollars to your graphic designer as well when you didn't do anything.
So I mean, interesting because why would you work with that company again?
You're like, you guys aren't really doing it.
It's like, wait a minute, we could screw up that bad ourselves.
Yeah, any intern over at Ram could have been like, sure, I'll just have AI make you a shirt.
I go back to the same thing.
It's like they have these giant design departments that go through every ideation of a new vehicle.
Why wouldn't they have one of those guys go?
And most of their designers would love to do it.
Hey, how much like do our new t-shirt?
Yeah, man, that'd be great.
I'll do it over the weekend and give it to you on Monday.
And then you give it to your agency to, okay, now make this into a t-shirt.
That's a great design.
You know, but I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense, but they actually sold some.
I wish I had one.
It'd be a great little memorabilia piece of that.
Right.
You were talking about events and I wanted to just quickly mention that FuelFest is coming up.
It is.
Southern California FuelFest is coming up and it's in your town.
So you should go.
Orange County Fairgrounds in Costa Mesa, June 13th.
It's usually an afternoon and night event, 2 p.m. to night p.m.
There's going to be car shows, going to be drifting.
There's a concert series that's going on.
There's a bunch of fun stuff out there.
I went to the Pomona one last year, I think, but they've grown it.
They've made some changes to it.
It's going to be a great event.
This is all part of Cody Walker's deal.
He's the man in charge of FuelFest.
So you can check out FuelFest.com.
You can see what's going on out there.
You can see what the performances are.
There are some ride-alongs.
There's some drifting.
Last year, Tyrese came out.
Vin Diesel came out.
They made some announcements about the fast and furious movies.
And now there's talk of a TV show, possibly a couple of TV shows being developed at Universal.
So don't be surprised if a couple of those guys show up as well.
I heard there's a chance that the guys from Shift and Steer might show up.
They might.
Probably have a stage.
Yeah, not at the event, just outside in the parking lot.
We'll have a tailgate in the park.
We'll have a tailgate party.
AI Brad will be there.
We should host a Shift and Steer tailgate party.
I mean, just have all five of our fans there and it'd be awesome.
If you think we should do that, hit us up on social media.
And maybe we can put that together where you hang out with Matt and Brad in the parking lot.
Because unless we get some press passes, we probably won't be able to get in the actual event.
Because parking will break us as it is.
So, you know, I was looking at mapping out my places.
I was going to go on my trip that I was talking about, you know, extra terrestrial highway and go by the alien in and all that stuff.
But also outside of Zion National Park, have you ever heard of Cat Stare Canyon?
No.
It's this area right off the highway where they used cars to fill in when the road was kind of, you know, coming down before the days of Rebar, I guess.
And it's really interesting because I ran across it on YouTube.
And it's pretty cool because there's like a Lincoln Continental there used in there's a bunch of impalas and a bunch of really cool cars that are just stacked.
And because it's in the arid desert, they're all they're all flat, but they're all very well preserved.
And you and they actually so many people have pulled off to look at it that the state put in two pull offs, one just east of it and one just west of it.
So that if you want to get out, hike down, look at it and take pictures of it, you can.
And it's pretty cool, but it makes me remember it reminds me of when I was in Nebraska growing up and they used to use cars a lot in the Midwest for landfill and along creeks and things like that.
And there was this one gas station that I used to go to and they had like cut a hill away to put the gas station in and you could see like Model T's in the dirt.
And it was like it was so wild.
And I think now God, I wish I would have taken a picture of that because it was just so cool that you they were they were just stacked and they weren't crushed.
They were just stacked and you'd see these like silhouettes in the dirt of Model T's, you know, so so cool the way you can find stuff like that.
I wonder what if there's anything like that anymore?
I don't know.
Is there anybody out there in the Midwest that there's a creek near them or anything like that that has cars stacked in it?
I don't mean stolen cars from, you know, I mean old cars.
What were you going to say, Matt?
I was going to say, I know you're supposed to drain all the fluids before any of those things go out there.
But after so many years, I'm sure there was a little bit.
It's all just kind of soaking down to the bottom.
Matt, let me tell you something.
If you lived in the Midwest, you probably already know this, but they used to take motor oil.
And the states would go around and get all collect all the motor oil from the places like the garages and stuff.
And they would spray it on dirt roads to keep the dust down in the summertime.
That was a way of keeping dust down so it didn't get crazy and like that.
And I mean, you think of that.
That was just like a normal.
Yeah, well, just I got an idea.
Let's collect this free oil and we'll put it in these trucks and they can go around and spray oil on the dirt roads and keep.
And I remember seeing that when I first moved to the Midwest, I was like, somebody told me that.
And I went, they spray oil and he goes, yeah, yeah, you know, keeps the dust down so it didn't get all dusty and and unlike, you know, water that evaporates and they got to do it again.
They'd come through and do it once a week or whatever.
And those farm roads and stuff like that wouldn't be big dust barrels, you know.
Yeah.
Just things that we used to do.
Yeah, just to bury it.
Yeah.
Well, now, you know, someday they'll be going, you know what they used to do with nuclear waste?
They used to bury it.
They used to throw it in the ocean.
So, yeah, that's that's what will happen.
Aliens, aliens are coming.
You've seen all the disclosure.
Well, hopefully they're bringing some good technology for our cars.
You know, we know how to make that car put out 2000 horsepower, that LS motor.
All right.
I guess we're getting punchy.
I need to go take a nap.
So, yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Let's wrap things up.
Maybe we'll get Aaron back next week.
Let's see.
Maybe maybe we will.
Maybe we won't.
And you know what?
When I'm out on my road trip, maybe I'll call in.
Maybe I won't.
We'll have to see.
Maybe you guys will be.
Brad's, Brad's gone.
He's on a road trip.
So, never know.
Yeah.
It sounds good though.
It sounds like it'll be fun.
Sounds good that I'm going to be gone.
I see how you are.
I can't wait.
All right, everybody.
We'll be back next week.
And that's a promise, not a threat.
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About this episode
From band-tour logistics to a Hollywood Walk of Fame detour, the hosts then dive into car talk—starting with a newly discussed Ferrari “Luce” and the debate over whether Ferrari is really aiming at an “entry level” EV. They argue the pricing math (including $640,000 and up to $800,000) and compare the styling to a Nissan Leaf. The episode also swings into non-car territory with Dirty Fest BMX, plus event planning for FuelFest and a roadside “car stack” story outside Zion.
