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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy.
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We are going to try our very hardest to not be fully depressed as we explore what happened
05:29
in sprint qualifying.
05:31
I am a resident Charles Leclerc fan as most of you know,
05:34
Tommy is a resident Max Verstappen fan.
05:38
So lots to explore, lots to talk about, quite a lot of emotion, Tommy.
05:44
That really wants to come out.
05:47
Yeah, I think it's emotion from two sides.
05:50
It's not even the fact that our drivers have obviously had not the best of qualifying.
05:57
And I think there are no doubt people jumping on going,
05:59
oh, you're only saying this because the drive you support is off.
06:03
There's a lot more that I didn't like about that qualifying than that.
06:08
Another very strange feeling after qualifying.
06:11
A very strange feeling indeed.
06:14
Yes, there will be part of it.
06:15
As you all know, we are Formula One fans.
06:17
We have our allegiances.
06:18
We try and be as fair as possible.
06:21
But also we want Charlie Clair and Max Verstappen to do pretty well.
06:24
And that did not happen.
06:25
But we'll get into that.
06:26
SQ3 is a little bit further on in this podcast.
06:29
We are going to now look at SQ1, where the bottom six drivers.
06:35
I'm trying to get that in my head.
06:36
Bottom six were Sainz, Albon, Alonso, Stroll, Bottas and Perez.
06:44
And then, of course, Aston Martin and Cadillac.
06:47
Question from P1Patreon member Justin.
06:49
Do we think that Williams is the biggest letdown of these new regs so far?
06:55
Let me reintroduce you to Aston Martin.
06:58
But I think second biggest letdown has to be the Daddy Vowels hype train.
07:04
I mean, it can change quite quickly, of course.
07:08
But I'm a big old conductor.
07:09
You know, chew-chewing for James Vowels and the Williams team.
07:13
Because they did a phenomenal job last year when apparently they weren't trying.
07:18
We come into this year where they weren't trying.
07:21
And it appears that things were broken and things just haven't worked out in this
07:26
start, at least, of these new regs.
07:29
I don't want to hear about another five-year plan of Williams.
07:31
I want to hear that they are towards the front where they belong.
07:35
Their history is one that's amazing to look back at.
07:39
And it looked as if maybe they might challenge the top four if they kept on that trajectory.
07:43
From last year, alas, that is not the case.
07:45
Both of them out in SQ1 and the turmoil continues at Williams.
07:51
Because, you know, we're going to go into SQ3 and no doubt be ranting about
07:56
Mercedes so clear they've got this amazing engine.
08:00
Williams have that Mercedes engine in their car, which we thought,
08:04
and based on what we saw in 2014, would be essentially a cheat code.
08:09
And instead, I'm just looking at the times.
08:12
Fernando Alonso was, like, three tenths off Alex Alvin.
08:17
Which, based on how bad us and Martin have been,
08:21
shows just how poor it's gone for Williams at the start.
08:26
You know, we've been talking about how you mentioned us and Martin being, like,
08:30
how bad it's gone for them.
08:32
And they definitely still are the most kind of embarrassing package
08:35
of the whole kind of regulation so far.
08:38
But Williams, to have that Mercedes engine in their car and be so far off and being both of
08:43
them knocked out, they look slow.
08:47
They've had problems with their car being overweight, it seems, as well.
08:51
And this is not what we were expecting from Williams this year at all.
08:55
It's really, really disappointing.
08:57
And you've got to feel for, you know,
09:00
Carlos Sainz made a very big choice.
09:02
He believed in the Daddy Val's hype train and that's why he chose that team.
09:07
He's gone from, you know, penny for his thoughts right now,
09:10
seeing Ferrari in the last race, you know, challenging for the win.
09:14
And he had to choose Williams with the idea that they were going to be
09:18
very good in these regulations and they really are not.
09:22
And how quickly it's changed as well, though.
09:24
Of course, Carlos did not have a say on whether he stayed at Ferrari or not.
09:27
So I guess there wasn't a case of, I wish I hadn't have left.
09:29
Like, he was ousted out, of course, because Lewis Hamilton wanted to come in.
09:32
But, you know, you look at last year and we were saying Carlos Sainz is beating the Ferraris.
09:38
You know, he's how quickly it can change in Formula One when you have a new set of rules.
09:43
The one thing, you know, I'm looking at here, for example, Carlos Sainz putting
09:47
over half a second on Alex Albon.
09:49
And before we get into teammate comparisons and things like that,
09:52
the one thing that is irritating me about these new regulations
09:58
and some of it is going to be natural and some of it is going to happen,
10:02
of course, with it being brand new and teams trying to work it out.
10:04
But the one thing that's irritating me is that
10:08
you can't really compare accurately between drivers,
10:13
because there are so many issues that are going on in almost every car.
10:19
I can hear every comment going, you can tell that Charlotte Clair has been outqualified by Hamilton.
10:23
Shut up. Shut up. We'll get on to that and we'll get on to what happened there.
10:28
But I'm not, I'm sat here going, I don't think Alex Albon has been outright
10:34
outqualified by Carlos Sainz by five and a half times.
10:37
Maybe he has, but my initial thinking is...
10:40
...one went wrong there.
10:41
It's too hard to know now.
10:42
And that's kind of annoying at this point in the regulations, for sure,
10:44
to not have that consistent data and something where we...
10:47
And because that's an exciting thing for us as F1 fans to compare drivers,
10:50
especially within teams.
10:51
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'll save it for a question that we've got in
10:55
SQ3 about all this, because I totally agree that the problem is,
11:00
it's hard to know what the drivers are doing and where the drivers are making up the skill.
11:06
And that's been one of the big things in this regulation that people are
11:09
quite rightly upset about so far.
11:12
Absolutely. Let's get to question from P1 Picture Member, Madeline Crash Cars.
11:17
What on earth is up with F1 and FOM freezing the speed on the halo graphic
11:23
when we can clearly tell that the car is slowing down?
11:27
I didn't think they could stoop any lower with this.
11:30
Look, at the end of the day, I'll give them some cred...
11:34
No, it's not even credit.
11:36
But the super clipping is nowhere near as bad as it was in Australia.
11:41
I thought it was going to be a lot worse.
11:42
I thought halfway down the straight in China, they'd be losing power
11:45
and it would be embarrassing and they'd barely have enough power to get through the hairpin.
11:51
It's not as bad, but why are you conning the viewers into pretending that something is what
11:55
it's not? And basically, you're just lying to them.
11:58
What's the point providing information about what the cars are doing
12:03
when you're not sharing the factual information?
12:06
Because that's a very, very, very dangerous thing because you could argue that once you
12:12
go down that route, how are we to believe that the battery indications that they're
12:18
showing during the race are correct? How do we know that the boost is being used?
12:21
How will we know in the overtake? If they're doing this,
12:24
are they just lying about every single graphic?
12:28
Do you know what I mean?
12:29
I think that's probably not happening.
12:29
How do you say that they're not doing it differently from that?
12:36
Like, it's crazy to me that they were just fake a graphic.
12:40
Like, I think that's just absolutely appalling from Formula One.
12:43
To be honest, I think from the other points you've said there,
12:46
I don't think there's much to gain from lying about battery charges and stuff like that,
12:49
but there is something, obviously, they're trying to save face on the speed of the cars.
12:53
Like, saying about the battery charge, I don't think particularly game-changing as to,
13:00
because they're all going to go on social media going,
13:02
oh, did you see that he's got three quarters back?
13:03
Whereas the speed is something that we all understand.
13:07
But what I'm saying is it cons the viewer into losing the trust of a viewer.
13:11
So, like, how can you trust the graphics to be correct
13:15
when you know that factually that one is wrong is what I'm trying to make the point of,
13:19
like, you're basically conning the viewer and we're not stupid.
13:24
Like, we can see it.
13:24
You can hear the engine noise, which they're desperately trying to cut out
13:27
and they're doing it on social clips and things.
13:29
And also, it's nowhere near as bad as it is in Australia.
13:32
So just kind of own these new rules.
13:34
They're saying that they're trying to sort it out.
13:36
That is what happens.
13:37
That's what's happening.
13:40
I can't believe they did that.
13:42
Yeah, to back up your point now and something that I've just thought in this very moment
13:48
that concerns me greatly is, like, we're in a world where it's 2026 now,
13:54
there's a lot of editing power technology and things that can be done.
13:58
I am now doubting whether, you know, how good it actually is down the straight,
14:04
because I'm sure there are ways in which engine sounds can even be
14:10
underplayed and underplayed.
14:11
You know, like put into the sort of feed it in or not cut order,
14:14
but even like feed it in somehow to make it seem like they're not decelerating as much
14:18
than they include that with the speedometer.
14:19
Obviously, that part is not confirmed.
14:21
But what is confirmed, and we saw that, I can't remember who we were riding on board with,
14:24
but it said 325 kilometers an hour and did not move a single kilometer
14:31
as they were in the super clipping area.
14:33
And I completely agree with you, Tommy, that you can't be telling the commentary team to
14:39
explain super clipping and say what's happening and the fact that cars will be
14:44
decelerating into big or after long straights into big heavy braking zones,
14:49
because they need to charge the battery and this that and the other,
14:51
but then show that they're not decelerating at all on the speedometer because they're so scared
14:55
to show what the real speed of the cars are going into certain places on the track.
15:01
Is embarrassing enough in the last race where they got to the end of the straight
15:05
and then the graphic mysteriously like did the piece and disappeared and that's bad enough,
15:11
but at least you're not lying to the viewer.
15:13
You're just taking that information away because they're a little bit embarrassed by it,
15:18
but to just literally just show it.
15:21
I would literally rather the graphic disappear than you make up what the speed is.
15:29
Yeah, I do find that decision of showing the HUD with all of the different bits of information
15:34
at a place where they clearly don't want to talk about it, but then there's part of them
15:38
that wants to show just how fast they get to until they start decelerating.
15:43
They need to own their rules.
15:44
They need to own the rules that they've made here.
15:47
Like this whole like, you know, Will Smith in Men in Black like pressing the button to like
15:54
everyone's memories of the way.
15:56
You've got the peace sign, you've got the Will Smith thing.
15:58
Let's see how many more references Tommy comes up with.
16:02
We're not stupid and you're kind of making Formula One fans just more angry
16:10
by doing all these stupid things like cutting things here and not showing this and pretending
16:16
this is fine and not playing radios because the drivers are complaining.
16:20
Just these are the regulations.
16:23
I've never seen it this bad where they're going so hard with the like
16:28
propaganda of like, this is an amazing regulation set and it's not fooling anybody.
16:34
Yeah, yeah, there's I don't think there's ever been a time where you've genuinely
16:39
doubted what you've been shown on screen until this year.
16:42
So yeah, that's a concern and I agree.
16:44
They just need to own it.
16:45
Just own what the regulations are.
16:47
We all know they decelerate.
16:51
First rant out the way.
16:52
Let's go to SQ2 where the bottom six were Hülkenberg,
16:56
Ocon, Lawson, Portoletto, Lindblad and Colopinto.
17:00
Question from people in picture.
17:01
Remember Captain Ofs 3420 whose seat is under more jeopardy, Ocon or Colopinto?
17:08
It goes back to my previous point of we're in such early stages of these regulations that
17:15
I mean, there are head-to-heads obviously going on.
17:18
But we don't know exactly what's going on in the cockpit of each one of these
17:22
driver's cars because there are problems up and down the field.
17:29
Colopinto clearly, you know, that there was a lot of time left on the table,
17:32
I think nearly a second to Gasly.
17:35
Ocon, I don't think you can say his seat's under jeopardy for qualifying P12 for the sprint.
17:39
Like that's not this is the second race of the year.
17:41
It was a tenth of Behrman's time.
17:43
Yeah, it was very, very close in that part of the field.
17:48
And I enjoyed Ted in the broadcast talking about,
17:52
oh, I didn't think in the second race of the season would have such a compact field.
17:56
And then goes on to say from eighth to twelfth.
18:00
What compact field are we looking at here?
18:02
Because it's several seconds between the fastest and slowest cars.
18:07
But I'm not going to jump on the of any driver's seat,
18:10
to be honest with you, being under jeopardy at this point in the year.
18:15
Colopinto will need to pick up his game for sure in comparison to Gasly that
18:19
it seems already Alpina starting to unlock some more performance in that in that Mercedes power
18:24
unit and maybe getting a few pieces of the instruction manual like McLaren may well be doing.
18:29
But I'm not going to jump on the seat jeopardy train just yet.
18:34
No, definitely not.
18:35
I do think Colopinto has been underwhelming so far.
18:41
We know what he can do because we saw it at Williams.
18:45
But a long way, of course, of his teammate,
18:48
Gasly was one of the stars of the session.
18:50
So this is the thing with Alpine as well that they've got a driver
18:56
in Paul Aaron waiting in the wings.
18:58
They've got other drivers waiting in the wings from their academy.
19:02
And we've already seen that Flavio is not afraid to be savage and boot someone out.
19:07
So, yeah, it's definitely, I don't think it's a time for change immediately.
19:15
But it's not looking good for Colopinto.
19:18
Ocon, I wouldn't worry as much at the moment.
19:22
We'll see what happens in the race and stuff.
19:24
But he's been comparable to Bearman, I think.
19:29
Yes, it's a surprise that Ocon as a veteran is losing out to Bearman as much as he is.
19:36
But he's not a million miles off Bearman at all.
19:39
And also, Bearman, I think, is a generational talent.
19:43
Well, Bearman's really, yeah, exactly.
19:45
He's really, really good.
19:46
So it's not like Ocon is miles behind.
19:49
But yeah, it's from a head-to-head perspective.
19:53
Ocon needs to do a little bit better when it's against Bearman.
19:57
But it's not catastrophic.
19:58
He's not qualifying 20th with Bearman up in 8th.
20:01
So another thing to talk about from SQ2 was Antonelli blocking Norris into turn 1.
20:08
So Antonelli was coming out of the pits.
20:10
Norris was out of sync with the other drivers' fast laps.
20:14
And it was a clear as day slam dunk blocking.
20:17
Now, we also said after Australia that the banana peels or green shells, whatever you
20:24
might want to say, that came out of Antonelli's car and Norris then...
20:28
I mean, it's Norris and Antonelli again, by the way.
20:30
Oh, my word, yeah, it is.
20:30
Norris, of course, drove over that in Australia.
20:33
And I was like, that surely is some kind of unsafe release grid penalty.
20:37
But no, it was like a 7,500 euro fine for Mercedes for literally breaking Norris' wing.
20:43
I still cannot believe that to this day.
20:45
Because some people will go, yeah, but it's the team's fault.
20:48
The team and the driver are combined, especially in competitive sessions.
20:51
An unsafe release is a team's fault.
20:53
Yeah, that's always been the case in Formula One, that a team and a driver are one
20:57
when it comes to competitive sessions.
20:59
So I found that weird.
21:01
And then we come into this one.
21:02
This is a slam dunk block.
21:04
I don't know how Antonelli will get away with not getting a grid penalty for this.
21:09
It should be a 3, I reckon.
21:11
Yeah, watch us go live tomorrow or be on the podcast and Antonelli's starting second.
21:15
But I cannot see how Antonelli will not get a penalty here.
21:18
Of course, it seems as though Mercedes have not let him know.
21:22
Mercedes have maybe missed the fact that Norris was out of sync.
21:25
Because there was no real sort of attempt either for Antonelli to get out of the way
21:30
when he was coming out.
21:31
So yeah, a shame for Antonelli if he does get a grid penalty.
21:36
But great for Hamilton fans who will then start third and maybe take the lead at the start.
21:40
Yeah, I'm very surprised that if he doesn't get a penalty.
21:45
Because you can say all you like about, oh, it's Antonelli.
21:49
It's more on the team telling Antonelli that someone's coming up.
21:53
Which that is Formula One now.
21:55
It's all about data and who's being told where.
21:59
But I just think it's insane if he doesn't get a penalty.
22:03
But we'll wait and see.
22:04
I guess if they want to do the whole thing again where they don't give him a penalty,
22:11
their free excuse pass would be that they both got through the session.
22:17
But that's never the case, is it?
22:20
I can't remember moments where that would be the excuse.
22:25
They do tend to just make it up as they go along.
22:29
I'm watching the video now and he couldn't be more on the racing line if he tried.
22:34
Yeah, I'll be amazed.
22:37
It has to be a penalty, yeah.
22:39
By the rules and what they say.
22:41
A question from P1PT remember at Zingy 13.
22:44
Why can't the stewards make decisions about blocking etc.
22:47
At the time, rather than waiting until after the session,
22:49
what more information will they get from the teams and drivers that won't be biased?
22:54
Exactly, it's so true because at the end of the day Antonelli
22:59
only excuse will be going into the stewards room and going,
23:02
oh my team didn't tell me, but he still blocked him.
23:05
So it doesn't matter, that's still a blocking penalty.
23:09
So why they can't just make the decision in qualifying?
23:12
So we know after the race, because you know Antonelli
23:15
could have easily just got his first pole position there as well
23:19
and it kind of sours it when there's a penalty
23:22
and you don't know till afterwards and stuff.
23:24
So sorry, it's not his first pole position as he got in Miami.
23:26
But yeah, like could have been fastest
23:30
and then it just sours the whole thing because it's like,
23:32
oh actually he's got a penalty and we find out afterwards.
23:36
So yeah, it's not, we've said this so many times why
23:43
Formula One and the FAA love to be a dictatorship,
23:46
but when it's not in the right way,
23:50
when they need to just make a decision like they used to and go,
23:54
that's a penalty and not have to have a committee meeting
23:58
of the other kind of driver that's always going to say,
24:03
oh well this happened because it doesn't matter, you blocked him.
24:07
It's a stone wall penalty.
24:09
Yeah, it should be very clear as day, right?
24:13
Like it's a black and white thing of,
24:16
and this is how, yeah, it's a frustration watching when you go,
24:19
oh so I'm going to have to check social media in a few hours
24:21
to see if Antonelli gets a penalty
24:25
and it should be in the moment, those kind of things.
24:29
I can understand if it's like, I don't know, I don't know what,
24:34
every instant and situation is different.
24:36
I can understand if it's really complex,
24:39
you're not really sure what's gone on, fine,
24:41
but this one, it is blocking and you're not allowed to block in qualifying
24:45
and Antonelli blocked in qualifying.
24:47
That should be a penalty, like 100%,
24:51
but Formula One don't like to be so knee jerk for some reason
24:55
and they need to hear from a McLaren representative who will say,
25:00
he blocked us and a Mercedes representative who will say,
25:04
we didn't mean to block him and then what more information could you possibly need?
25:11
We had that one time, didn't we, where Stroll was just like,
25:13
I don't care, did they even turn up and they just didn't give the penalty out?
25:17
But Lando is in Lando's best interests for Antonelli to get a penalty
25:23
because he's behind him on the grid and it will promote him to second
25:27
and also it shouldn't even be on Lando to go argue his case, he got blocked.
25:33
So it should be a penalty, simple as that to say, he was on the racing line.
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Okay, let's head to Q3.
29:53
SQ3, in fact, where the top 10.
29:55
Russell, Antonelli, Norris, Hamilton, Piastri, Leclerc,
29:59
Gasly, Verstappen, Bearman and Hajar.
30:03
Question from East Coast 49ers.
30:06
Is there any hope of the other teams becoming more competitive?
30:10
This is going to get old really quickly.
30:15
Is there hope? Yes.
30:18
There is always hope.
30:21
Sounds like a true Ferrari fan, yeah.
30:27
I'm trying desperately to just remain in my logical brain
30:31
of things can change at such early stages of a new regulation set.
30:35
That was like, you were like, I've got hope,
30:37
but I've got no factual information to tell you why this is good a shit.
30:42
Every time I've ever seen a team dominate out the blocks,
30:45
they usually end up winning pretty comprehensively.
30:48
You look at when Max Verstappen was dominating, I mean, to be fair.
30:55
Yeah, I mean, I was able to shut up.
30:58
Do you not know that I'm very vulnerable?
31:02
Talking about this qualifying session in general,
31:03
then you bring up 2022.
31:05
Most of the time, the fastest car at the beginning of the season,
31:08
especially with this amount of gap,
31:12
will be quickest most places, if not everywhere.
31:15
So yes, the other teams, I think,
31:18
will be able to close the gargantuan gap that it currently is.
31:22
But I don't think it'll be any time soon.
31:25
The 1st of June is obviously going to be an interesting thing to keep an eye on.
31:29
So just to clarify, for anyone that doesn't know,
31:31
from the 1st of June, the compression ratio,
31:34
which is the cheeky little trick that Mercedes have been able to
31:38
quite cleverly exploit, will be measured at 130 degrees,
31:43
as well as ambient temperature, and from next year only at 130 degrees.
31:46
So essentially, they are changing the way they test
31:49
whether or not that Mercedes engine compression ratio is legal
31:54
from the 1st of June.
31:55
And that may well change their dominance
31:59
if they're found to have not been abiding by those tests.
32:03
So maybe let's see if it pegs them back.
32:08
But there's no guarantee.
32:09
But also, Tommy, you made a really good point,
32:12
I think, in the watch along about when Mercedes had a party mode,
32:15
which was then banned in 2020.
32:24
Tommy's done it again.
32:25
Every time he says 2020, he says 2022.
32:29
What's going to say, 2022?
32:30
It was the W11, wasn't it, when they were absolutely rapid?
32:35
They had this party mode in qualifying
32:36
that everyone believed they were taking their engine to a new level.
32:41
That was then banned, and they still were.
32:43
It was banned for Monza,
32:44
and then they did the fastest time in the history of Formula One.
32:49
So I would sort of manage your expectations for the 1st of June,
32:55
but that's our only hope, I think, really,
32:58
to not see MS80s 1, 2 in every qualifying session.
33:02
Yeah, 1st of June might be the one to potentially help that.
33:06
I'll bring some factual positive things,
33:09
even though I'm normally the pessimistic one.
33:12
Yeah, no, we're seeing some rare Tommy pessimism right now.
33:17
Optimism, not pessimism, bro.
33:21
Pessimism ain't rare from you, mate.
33:22
Yeah, you go back to the fact that you were mentioning about the new regulations,
33:28
even the start of 2022, when we had that new reg,
33:32
you're looking at...
33:34
I'm looking at the qualifying times,
33:36
and yeah, there was a well over...
33:39
It was like a second gap to 6th.
33:44
I guess the argument there is it was close between Red Bull and Ferrari,
33:48
but even looking at what McLaren have done now,
33:51
I fully expected there to be an even bigger gap,
33:56
and McLaren have found a bit more pace.
34:00
I know it's like it's still 6th tenths to the other car,
34:03
but it was 8th tenths last week,
34:06
and this is a track that I thought they'd be even stronger at.
34:08
So you hope that it would chip away as the other team catch up,
34:13
and with a new regulation,
34:16
in theory, this should always be the worst as it's going to be in terms of performance gaps.
34:22
So that is something to be positive about.
34:26
However, I'm not going to lie.
34:29
Leave it on an optimistic note, Tommy.
34:32
Mercedes are very clear, aren't they?
34:35
And I think our fears of it being another 2014,
34:38
so far, you wonder how much they've even...
34:43
I hope they're not even raining it back like the rumors were in 2014,
34:47
where they're not even pushing,
34:50
because they don't want to seem too far ahead and F1 make drastic changes.
34:55
Let's go to a question from Fru to Lugu.
35:02
Well, McLaren have definitely found something.
35:06
They were much more competitive.
35:10
I did not expect, based on what we were seeing throughout the session, really,
35:15
for it looked again like it was going to be Mercedes and Ferrari,
35:20
for most of the qualifying.
35:22
I know in FP3 they were strong,
35:24
but they did kind of come out of nowhere in the end.
35:28
And Kovir is, Matt, but I do think that if we're looking at any team,
35:34
that if we're talking about how Mercedes have this unbelievable advantage,
35:38
they're so clear because their engine is amazing
35:40
and they've got this compression ratio and they're so quick on the straights.
35:44
The one team that are competitive and does have that Mercedes engine
35:48
is McLaren and they're already third and fifth on the grid
35:52
and closed a bit of the deficit.
35:54
So I would back McLaren by the end of the season
35:58
to be the ones challenging Mercedes more than any other team.
36:06
McLaren, they have made a huge step from Australia, at least in qualifying,
36:12
and you would expect that to continue for them.
36:15
And I hope for the sake of the season,
36:17
if we have to just rely on another team to get involved in Ferrari and able to do it,
36:21
let's get McLaren in there.
36:22
Because right now, two races in, not a long time,
36:26
but two races in, Antonelli has not stepped up to the level of which
36:29
we can go, he can challenge for the world title.
36:31
That's not what we're seeing right now.
36:34
So let's see what McLaren can do.
36:36
I'm excited to watch their progress
36:39
and hopefully Ferrari go with them as well.
36:41
That's my ultimate goal and dream.
36:43
But yeah, much more competitive in this sprint quali session
36:48
And they've literally been watching the onboard from Mercedes
36:51
and just figuring out what the hell they're doing with their car and their power unit.
36:56
So lots of learning still to be done, I'm sure.
36:59
Question from Oteng FCB.
37:02
Is the Red Bull now a midfield car?
37:06
All right, I'll try not to take too much enjoyment out of this as Tommy...
37:10
No, it's your turn, yeah.
37:15
I would argue it's always been a midfield car
37:18
and Max Verstappen made it.
37:20
It's just so clear.
37:21
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
37:23
Red Bull are miles off around here.
37:27
I caught an interview with Verstappen just as we were starting the podcast
37:31
and he was saying there was no grip, no confidence in the car.
37:35
So it's not just a case of them losing time on the straights.
37:38
They've just not got a car, at least around here, that is competitive.
37:42
I would say in Australia they were looking all right
37:44
until Verstappen obviously speared it into the wall because of the problem.
37:48
I think Red Bull have gone backwards quite dramatically going into China.
37:54
You know, to qualify eighth and tenth be outqualified by an Alpine
37:59
by three and a half tenths to Verstappen.
38:01
Hajar, I'm not sure exactly what happened to him on his final lap,
38:05
but he was looking comparable to Max up until SQ3.
38:09
But they've got a long way to go and perhaps Red Bull will have a car that
38:16
may well chop and change their form book as we go around the different tracks
38:22
because Australia, as I say, was kind of a positive in some way
38:26
in the fact that Max could have well qualified P3
38:28
and may well have finished somewhere near the podium.
38:31
But instead, he had a big old comeback to do and then we come here and
38:36
they've clearly got something very wrong with the car.
38:38
One practice session, this can happen.
38:41
We're not going to go straight to the Panic Stations, Tommy.
38:45
No, don't press the big red button because I think teams at this stage
38:48
of the regulations can get a setup and power unit deployment
38:52
and every other stupid term wrong.
38:55
They can program their cars to try themselves correctly.
38:58
They can get it wrong because they don't really know what they're doing
39:03
at this stage of the season and it's a sprint weekend.
39:05
So they've only had one hour to dial it in and learn for qualifying and the race.
39:11
So it looks on paper like a disaster.
39:14
I don't think it's as bad as that when we eventually look at the full picture
39:18
of the season at the end of the year.
39:20
It feels a very long time ago that in testing, they're like,
39:23
oh, wow, Red Bull might be fastest.
39:25
You know, they've got the best.
39:26
Have you seen the Red Bull?
39:27
Have you seen their deployment?
39:30
Yeah, I think Red Bull, yeah, they're looking good.
39:33
Looking really good.
39:34
Flash forward one month and with three tenths, nearly four tenths slower than an Alpine.
39:41
We thought there was going to be an absolute chasm as well.
39:44
I think this is between the midfield and we thought that Red Bull,
39:49
even if they were the fourth fastest, would just have this amazing gap to go into.
39:53
But you know, Gasly's there.
39:55
Bearman are almost, you know, close to Verstappen as well.
39:58
And it's not looking good for Red Bull at all.
40:01
Max is unhappy with how the cars drive.
40:04
They don't look remotely competitive.
40:09
And yeah, it's, I do agree that there'll be better at some circuits.
40:13
We saw that in Australia.
40:15
Like what could Max have done?
40:17
Had he done a normal qualifying?
40:18
No disrespect to Hadjah.
40:20
But we saw, you know, Hadjah qualify third.
40:25
What could Max have done in that race from third position?
40:27
It might have been a different story.
40:28
But here they have not, not got it right.
40:32
And they are so far off.
40:34
Speaking of Hadjah, he started off looking in that session and this,
40:38
this maybe again comes down to the frustrations that we're going to get into the next question of
40:44
not really knowing what is a driver and what is a battery and what is deployment.
40:50
Because Hadjah looked fairly strong and actually looking like you might even be able to out qualify
40:57
And yet he's finished half a second off, which is miles.
41:03
And for his saving his blushes really, because half a second of Verstappen,
41:07
that was kind of first to 14th last year that we saw with the other second Red Bull seat.
41:14
But he's, but Hadjah did a really solid job for most of that qualifying session,
41:19
but then finds himself half a second off, which is almost kind of what we would
41:23
usually see from that second Red Bull seat.
41:27
A question from Enblaze 53.
41:29
Where does the driver skills start and the battery end with these cars?
41:34
Piastri, Purple Sector 1 and then 0.8 of a second off pole by the end of the lap.
41:38
I'm just confused about where they're gaining and losing time
41:41
and what is driver versus automated battery software?
41:45
This is what I fully agree with and where my frustrations of this regulations.
41:49
I want to start it by saying that we need to be careful in terms of,
41:55
and I want to just let everyone know that George Russell is a phenomenal driver.
41:59
And just because we're going to now go into the fact that,
42:03
oh, how much of it is driver skill versus this?
42:05
I don't want to take anything away from what like Russell is doing.
42:08
And he's shown many, many seasons, last year he was incredibly strong,
42:15
doing amazing things in Williams, that he's a top driver anyway.
42:18
And I think even if we had normal inverted commas cars,
42:23
Russell would be up there anyway, because he's a top driver.
42:26
But my problem with this regulation is this whole Piastri goes Purple
42:32
and then his fifth seven tenths off.
42:34
And is it just because how they choose to use their battery
42:39
on the certain part of the track means they're quicker?
42:41
And then that whole situation, and this is the problem that a lot of people have found
42:45
in that battle between Leclerc and Russell.
42:49
And despite everyone going, oh my God, we've done 150 overtakes
42:52
and some people saying they like it.
42:55
What's driver skill anymore and what is just power deployment?
42:58
And that's not what Formula One should be.
43:00
It should be about drivers being able to make up time
43:04
in fast corners and using their bravery and skill
43:07
to be able to navigate these cars and be on the edge,
43:11
particularly in qualifying.
43:13
And unfortunately with these new regulations,
43:15
I just don't know what's what anymore.
43:18
And that that's probably why qualifying to me feels so
43:23
not to do a battery pun, but flat.
43:26
We don't watch Formula One for who's fast on a straight.
43:32
We literally watch Formula One because we like comparing
43:35
between drivers, between teams about who made up time through a corner,
43:39
who absolutely sent it into that corner and gained a tenth.
43:43
That is not the conversation anymore.
43:45
Hamilton after this sprint qualifying was saying,
43:48
yeah, the car felt good, but we're just down on power.
43:51
I'm like, well, great.
43:52
You know, that's great, isn't it?
43:54
Because we watch Formula One for the best drivers
43:55
and now I echo what you said about Russell.
43:57
He's a great driver.
43:58
We've said that he's incredibly consistent
44:00
and we knew the minute he got a front running car
44:03
or a car that is dominant, like a dominant car,
44:06
he would win a world championship.
44:08
And I think that's what we're seeing the early stages of.
44:10
But yes, and I'm going to get to it right now.
44:12
Charlotte Clair lost four tenths on the straight for no reason.
44:16
His battery or whatever issue didn't deploy.
44:20
You just didn't press the right button on the steering wheel.
44:23
He wasn't pressing the pedal.
44:24
And I get the car problems can happen, car issues can happen.
44:28
And I'm not just saying about this, the Clair situation.
44:30
I said at the start of the podcast is that there's so much unknown
44:36
that it's hard for us as fans to know what's going on.
44:42
And I agree with the qualifying point as well.
44:45
Qualifying for me now, one, because of the gaps.
44:48
Two, because we're not seeing them go particularly fast.
44:53
And I don't know what three was.
44:54
I don't know why I was like, those two were the big points.
44:57
The fact that we are witnessing them super clipping qualifying
45:00
is devastating for a Saturday, I would say.
45:03
Because the one thing we've always sold qualifying as
45:07
is we are seeing these cars at the absolute limit, the ragged edge.
45:12
We're watching drivers risk it all to put in an amazing qualifying lap.
45:17
Instead, what we saw in Australia is turn nine,
45:19
then rolling it into that to that apex and boosting out the corner.
45:23
Whoop-de-doo, whoop-de-doo-da-day, I say to that,
45:26
because no one cares about a battery deployment down and straight.
45:29
We care about the corners.
45:31
And then we go to this one.
45:32
And yes, it's not as bad, but it's clearly bad enough
45:35
that Formula One have been freezing the graphic that we see on the halo.
45:40
And also, I've seen on social media, I don't personally go in
45:43
and do all the telemetry stuff.
45:44
I see people post stuff and it's quite interesting.
45:47
People can't access telemetry anymore, apparently.
45:49
They're trying to find it and it's not freely accessible,
45:53
at least from what I've seen people posting about.
45:56
And again, that's clearly to save the blushes of how slow
45:59
they are actually going into the hairpin.
46:01
And it's not public mileage anymore.
46:04
Yeah, and the data I'm seeing, it like flat lines, basically.
46:11
So yeah, I think, yes, Leclerc lost loads of time in the straight
46:14
and that pains me because he probably would have started fourth.
46:17
But the biggest thing for me that I'm...
46:20
Because qualifying was the day that we all loved and looked forward to,
46:24
it has now become a day of, oh, wow, there's massive gaps
46:27
and we're not seeing the drivers at the same ragged edge as we used to.
46:32
And that's quite a sad thing to see at this point.
46:35
And I don't know how that's going to change
46:36
because it is an engine battery formula.
46:39
So how are we ever going to see them top speed
46:43
at the end of a straight into a hairpin and really test it under the brakes?
46:48
And yeah, I was obviously bantering about Leclerc and you're saying with Max.
46:54
I genuinely believe and some people would disagree.
46:57
But if Leclerc was on pole position, yes, you'd be happy and same with Max.
47:03
But the enjoyment of qualifying has been lost that even if it was...
47:07
I think even if the gaps closed up,
47:10
we don't want to see this super clipping and battery usage in certain positions.
47:16
We want to know that the driver skill and the best drivers
47:21
are making that time in the corner and being on the ragged edge in qualifying
47:27
And yeah, at the moment, we can only hope that they do make changes
47:33
because I don't think I'm alone in saying that I think a lot of the magic
47:37
of qualifying has been lost so far.
47:41
I will say back to a positive note in the fact that once the teams figure out at the very...
47:47
I'm not talking about the corners and the corners and the problem about the ragged
47:50
I don't think we're going to have a solution to.
47:52
But once the teams have a better idea of all this battery rubbish, at least,
48:00
I don't know how long it will take, but we'll have a consistency between teammates
48:04
and across teams where we're not going to have drivers coming out and going,
48:08
well, I had this problem.
48:09
I had this deployment problem.
48:10
I had this problem.
48:11
I had this problem.
48:11
If we can eradicate that, then at least we can then start to do our comparisons
48:17
and the fun things that we have as Formula One fans.
48:20
But right now, it's teething problems for everybody.
48:25
But that's the way it is.
48:27
And this is the most frustrating thing is I wish they wouldn't feel the need to
48:32
manipulate things, hide things, what the drives are saying.
48:35
I'll go back to Max saying all this stuff was going to happen in 2023 and downshifting
48:41
And my initial reaction to that was, oh, wow, that sounds really bad.
48:45
But in three years' time, that's not going to happen.
48:49
It's quite clear they've not listened to those frustrations.
48:52
And they're also continuing not to listen because they're happy to basically ignore them
49:00
and cut what they're saying out and not play their team radios.
49:05
And the telemetry is mysteriously disappearing when the cars are slowing down for super clipping.
49:13
Yeah, and we're not getting the picture for that either, which is so irritating.
49:16
That's another point.
49:17
No, Tommy, we're going back to negativity.
49:19
The blocking of team radios then blocks the picture for us as well.
49:23
So people will, casuals will be coming out of that going, oh, look, I lost a lot of time
49:26
in that last sector.
49:27
I must have made a mistake.
49:29
He even came over the radio and said, where the hell was my battery deployment?
49:33
He lost four tenths on the straight.
49:35
That's a team radio that people need to hear.
49:38
But instead, F1 are prioritising their image, which I think is in the same way,
49:44
not the way to go because we're seeing through it as hard cause.
49:48
But we're not getting the full picture of what's going on in qualifying,
49:51
unless you dig deep into the quality interviews and so on and so forth.
49:55
Yeah, it ruins the team radio side of it if they can't play any negative thing because
50:04
in years gone by, they weren't afraid to go, a driver go, oh, I had a bit of an engine blip
50:12
there or, oh, this happened or my tires were destroyed in the final sector.
50:19
But they're so protective over these new regulations that they're willing to basically
50:25
make the viewer less understanding about what's going on to save their own public image.
50:32
It's embarrassing completely.
50:34
Also, I don't think we saw many on boards in that middle sector, but we did once with Hadjar
50:43
and that was so eye-opening to how slow they're actually going in that middle sector
50:48
that I think Formula One are being very clever in what they try and show,
50:52
whether they show off boards of cars in the middle sector, then they go on board,
50:56
round that long right hander onto the back straight because that's when they're deploying,
50:59
they look really fast, but you've got Antonelli and the other drivers right at the front
51:04
lifting into turn 10 before they then go into that final sequence and the long back straight
51:10
because they are recharging.
51:13
Yeah, like seeing in the turn one, great because they're deploying again, they're pushing hard,
51:17
but I think they are being very clever in which places they don't show us on boards,
51:21
but they did show us Hadjar and if you watch that, I genuinely thought he was on a call
51:26
lap and he was pushing.
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Yeah, I know. It's funny, isn't it? How we have all these problems about TV direction and this is
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what the fans want to see and yeah, rarely anything gets done, but as soon as TV direction
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needs to do a job of hiding all the problems with the cars, they're suddenly the goats of it
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and become like a minority report, like I can cut every single thing and make sure you do this and
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hide all this information. It's ridiculous, isn't it? I can't believe we're in a situation
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where they're not just owning the rules and what's happening and they're trying to pull
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the wool over people's eyes and they're not stupid. I think that's the most upsetting thing
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about everything that's going on in Formula One right now is the disrespect to the fans
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that were that stupid that we just go, oh yeah, this is fine because they're insulting our
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intelligence. They're insulting the intelligence of every fan. You don't even need to be like a
52:32
veteran Formula One fan to know what's going on here and yeah, they're insulting our intelligence.
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Mate, the live speedo, that 325 kilometers an hour example, I've seen because I haven't
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watched it back but obviously we noticed that. There's a screenshot of... Yes, exactly what you're
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going to say. On the brakes and it was still 325 kilometers an hour. He's at the 50 marker
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board and it says he's doing 325 kilometers an hour. He's on his way to... It was one of the
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Mercs, I think it's Antonelli or Russell. Antonelli probably, yeah. Crazy, absolutely crazy situation
53:08
we found ourselves in and... Well, don't worry. I don't want to be talking about this. This is
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the problem. I want to be talking about great racing and great Formula One but this is what's
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controlling the narrative at the moment and I feel like as a Formula One fan and a Formula
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One fan for a very long time, I need to be calling this out because it's just shameful what they're
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doing. Well, yeah, we're real about it, Tommy. We're Formula One fans and we call out the BS
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when we see it. That's just who we are. So hopefully you guys appreciate that.
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Look forward to never working with F1 ever again and we will see you tomorrow for a very early
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live watch along for the sprint race which I think will be very worth getting up for because
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let's see what Hamilton can do from potentially P3 on the road. I've been refreshing Antonelli
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and I can't see anything about an update of whether he's getting a penalty or not yet.
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How is it taking this long to decide whether he blocked him or not? It's ridiculous. We've done
54:07
an entire podcast in the 45 minutes of chatting plus we didn't start immediately. How have they
54:12
not made a decision yet but let's not get into that one. We've already spoken about that.
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We'll be doing watch alongs of course for every competitive session on YouTube,
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Twitch and Dream11. Come and join us there. Tommy, final thoughts please.
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Final thoughts despite all the complaining will be there no matter what tomorrow for the sprint
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watch along and the excitement of the start and seeing what Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton
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can do from that start with a very short run down to 7-1 but hopefully something exciting because
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I think there are hope for a good sprint that people can get in the mix with Mercedes.
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Can we just say thank you to Ferrari for saving this whole season with their start?
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So far, yeah. They have literally saved this whole season.
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One start. They've saved the season.
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But they're going to have two more starts this weekend and we're going to love both of them.
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I can't wait to see what they do with the lights. Do they leave it for like 20 seconds
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and then everyone runs up and they press it? Yeah, they put Mercedes fan there instead.
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Colopinto just flies through with all his charge and wins through.
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Okay, we will see you tomorrow. Sorry for the rant but you know it's the way we've got to be.
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Lots of love. Take care. Bye.
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