Reed Sorenson: NASCAR's Next Phenom That Almost Was
About this episode
Reed Sorenson’s path from ASA hype to NASCAR Cup struggles gets a full rewind, with Dale Jr. framing him as a “phenom” who moved through the “Chip Ganassi pipeline.” The conversation also digs into how spec-series rules and tire/gear choices shape results, plus the reality of Cup consistency: “It’s just the cup series is hard.” Along the way, they trade stories about Legends cars, mock-run expectations, and the tire strategy that can decide who passes when.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. invites a one-time rising star in the NASCAR garage, Georgia’s own Reed Sorenson. After having a meteoric rise from the American Speed Association to becoming a development driver for Chip Ganassi Racing, Reed was on everyone’s radar in stock car racing. He would enter the O’Reilly Series ranks in winning fashion, just narrowly missing out on Rookie of the Year honors to NASCAR Hall of Famer Carl Edwards. Ganassi tabbed him to replace Casey Mears in the Cup Series, and before Reed knew it, he was living his racing dreams at the young age of 20. Once there, though, Reed quickly realized that every rung up the ladder in racing brought more challenges, and a series of missteps and bad deals would leave him searching for a stable opportunity in racing.
Reed comes from a racing family. His father, Brad, was a longtime mainstay in the Southeast late model scene, running local tracks like Lanier on a weekly basis and even making a Busch Grand National start in 1992. Once Reed was old enough to reach the pedals, though, his family focused completely on his racing endeavors. He’d start out in quarter midgets and win his way across North America before graduating to Legend cars. Legend cars led to late models, and Reed caught the eye of Lorin Ranier during his time racing with ASA, which helped facilitate his introduction to Ganassi. Reed would experience the triumph of being one of the sports’ top prospects before years of dealing with the cruel reality of the world of racing.
Dale Jr. and Reed discuss his rapid ascent to the NASCAR Cup grid, his near-misses and opportunities, and his departure from full-time racing.
Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
legends cars
"Um, but interesting story about legends cars is you're supposed to be 14 and Ken Reagan actually more or less is the one that got me approved down there at Atlanta motor speedway."
Legends cars are a type of entry-level stock-car racing where the rules and parts are standardized. That helps keep costs lower and makes it easier for new drivers to compete.
Legends cars are a spec-style stock-car racing category built around standardized rules and parts to keep competition close and costs down. The host connects them to Ken Reagan’s involvement and to how drivers progress through grassroots racing.
Ken Reagan
"to be 14 and Ken Reagan actually more or less is the one that got me approved down there at Atlanta motor speedway. Um, a lot of people don't know that about Ken. So Ken, I remember, um, just to, for the people listening, Ken Reagan is the guy driving the 77 car"
Ken Reagan is a racing driver the host talks about. In this story, he’s connected to legends cars and is also mentioned as driving the No. 77 car in a famous Daytona finish.
Ken Reagan is described as a driver and key figure in legends cars. The host also frames him as the driver of the No. 77 car during a notable 1984 Daytona race finish under caution.
Atlanta motor speedway
"that got me approved down there at Atlanta motor speedway. Um, a lot of people don't know that about Ken."
Atlanta Motor Speedway is a major NASCAR-era oval track in the Atlanta, Georgia area. It’s known for high-speed racing and has hosted many national series events, making it a meaningful venue for driver development stories.
Kale Yarborough
"Ken Reagan is the guy driving the 77 car when Kale Yarborough and Richard Prettier banging doors in the 1984 July Daytona race coming to the finish line, the yellow flags out."
Kale Yarborough is mentioned as one of the race drivers in the story. The host brings him up to describe the intense door-to-door action near the end of the race.
Kale Yarborough is named as one of the drivers “banging doors” with Richard Prettier in the 1984 July Daytona race. The host uses him to set the scene for a dramatic late-race battle involving Ken Reagan’s No. 77.
yellow flags
"Ken Reagan is the guy driving the 77 car when Kale Yarborough and Richard Prettier banging doors in the 1984 July Daytona race coming to the finish line, the yellow flags out."
Yellow flags mean there’s a problem on the track, so drivers have to slow down and drive carefully. It changes how the race is run near the finish.
In NASCAR and other motorsports, yellow flags indicate a caution period—drivers must slow down and be prepared for hazards on track. The host’s description ties the yellow-flag situation to the race’s final-lap restart/finish timing.
Richard Prettier
"Ken Reagan is the guy driving the 77 car when Kale Yarborough and Richard Prettier banging doors in the 1984 July Daytona race coming to the finish line, the yellow flags out."
Richard Prettier is another driver mentioned in the story. The host uses him to explain that the race was really intense right near the end.
Richard Prettier is named as a driver involved in the late-race door-to-door fight during the 1984 July Daytona race. The host uses his name to emphasize how close and physical the battle was near the finish.
white and the yellow
"It's the light coming to the white and the yellow and whoever wins is going to have chicken with the president of the United States cause Reagan has landed"
Near the end of a NASCAR race, the white flag usually means “one lap to go.” If a yellow caution comes out around then, it can change how the finish plays out.
The “white and the yellow” refers to NASCAR’s late-race flag sequence: the white flag signals one lap remaining, while a yellow caution can interrupt the finish. Together, they describe a tense, timing-sensitive finish where the race outcome can change.
bandoleros
"We, we like that [514.4s] better than the bandoleros because of the power, um, you [518.8s] know, the suspension, all that stuff. [520.1s] Bandoleros don't have a suspension."
Bandoleros are smaller, entry-level race cars used for younger drivers. They’re usually less powerful and simpler than other junior race cars, so they can feel different to drive.
Bandoleros are youth-focused dirt-track-style race cars (often used in junior racing programs) that are typically simpler and less powerful than Legends cars. In this context, the speaker contrasts them on power and suspension, implying Legends cars provide more realistic learning for handling and speed.
three eighths miles
"We ran, um, you know, three eighths miles linear, [545.0s] one of them, um, Sonoya, uh, but yeah, that was the legends [548.7s] car series was fun."
“Three-eighths miles” means the track is very short—less than half a mile around. Short tracks make races more about staying fast through turns and passing close up.
“Three-eighths miles” refers to the track length—about 0.375 miles—which is a short oval format common in grassroots and junior racing. Short tracks emphasize momentum, braking points, and close-quarters passing.
Sonoya
"We ran, um, you know, three eighths miles linear, [545.0s] one of them, um, Sonoya, uh, but yeah, that was the legends [548.7s] car series was fun."
“Sonoya” is the name of a track the speaker says they raced at. The episode segment doesn’t give enough detail to be sure exactly which track it is.
“Sonoya” appears to be a track name the speaker raced at during the Legends car series. Because the transcript doesn’t provide enough context to confirm the exact facility name/spelling, it’s best treated as a referenced venue rather than a clearly defined term.
Legend car
"[575.0s] Who's working on this car? [576.7s] Legend car. [577.4s] Yeah. [578.4s] Basically me and my dad."
A “Legend car” is a race car type that’s built to be pretty similar from car to car. That means young drivers can focus on driving, and the rules keep people from making huge, expensive changes.
A “Legend car” is a spec-style race car used in grassroots racing, where many parts are standardized so driver skill matters more than expensive engineering. In this context, the host is describing a youth-friendly platform with rules that limit what can be changed.
tire rule
"[586.4s] of my age, you know, 12, 13 years old, um, to not screw [589.9s] something up. [590.6s] They got a tire rule and some limitations. [593.4s] You can't do a lot of crazy things with brake pads and"
A “tire rule” is a regulation that limits which tires can be used and/or how they can be prepared. In spec or youth racing, tire rules are used to keep competition closer and reduce the advantage of teams with more money or engineering time.
brake pads
"[593.4s] You can't do a lot of crazy things with brake pads and [595.4s] things like that. [596.4s] Uh, springs and shocks pretty standard. [598.0s] The, yeah."
Brake pads are the parts that squeeze against the brake disc to slow the car down. In some race series, rules limit what brake pads you can use so everyone stays closer in speed.
“Brake pads” are the friction material inside the brake system that clamps onto the rotor to slow the car. In racing series with rules, limiting brake-pad choices prevents teams from gaining an advantage through more aggressive pad compounds or setups.
springs and shocks
"[596.4s] Uh, springs and shocks pretty standard. [598.0s] The, yeah. [598.9s] And the biggest thing like go during the summer is we ran [602.8s] a different gear every track."
Springs and shocks are what help the car ride over bumps and stay stable. If a series says they’re “pretty standard,” it means you can’t change them a lot to gain an advantage.
“Springs and shocks” (suspension springs and dampers) control how the car absorbs bumps and how quickly the suspension settles after hitting them. Racing rules that keep these “pretty standard” aim to reduce handling differences caused by expensive suspension tuning.
different gear every track
"[598.9s] And the biggest thing like go during the summer is we ran [602.8s] a different gear every track. [604.7s] Like even Charlotte animals, two different gears, which"
“Different gear every track” means the car’s gearing is adjusted so it matches the track. Tracks with lots of turns usually need gearing that helps you accelerate sooner, while faster tracks need gearing that lets you reach higher speed.
Running a “different gear every track” means changing the gear ratio (often via the transmission’s final-drive gearing) to match the track’s speed and cornering demands. Shorter tracks with more turns typically favor lower (numerically higher) gearing for acceleration, while faster tracks favor taller gearing for top speed.
late models
"Um, and then finally graduating the late models. There's two important races there."
“Late models” are a type of stock-car racing class. Drivers often move into late models as a next step before reaching bigger NASCAR-level series.
“Late models” are a stock-car racing class typically used as a step up for drivers moving toward higher-level NASCAR-style competition. In the transcript, the speaker describes “graduating the late models,” framing it as a progression from Legends racing to bigger, more competitive cars.
Albany, Georgia
"So we won as an Albany, Georgia was 10 grand to win and which was a ton of money for a legends car race and wouldn't say that the first one I won"
Albany, Georgia is where the short-track race took place. The speaker describes it as a small oval track, the kind of place where cars run laps quickly and the racing is close.
Albany, Georgia is the location of the track where the speaker describes a Legends car race with a large prize. The context also suggests it’s a small oval with short-track characteristics like a quarter-mile length and some banking.
quarter mile
"I think it was, it's probably a quarter mile, a little bit of banking. That was fun because as a kid"
A “quarter mile” means the track is about 0.25 miles long per lap. Short tracks like that usually make the racing feel more intense because you’re turning and passing more often.
A “quarter mile” refers to track length—here, the speaker says the Albany track is probably about 0.25 miles per lap. Shorter tracks like this typically produce tighter racing, more frequent turns, and more emphasis on momentum and car control.
banking
"I think it was, it's probably a quarter mile, a little bit of banking. That was fun because as a kid"
Banking is how much the track’s turns are tilted. More banking can help cars go faster through turns because the surface helps push the car into the corner.
Banking is the angled shape of a racetrack’s turns, which helps cars maintain speed through corners by providing additional lateral support. The speaker notes “a little bit of banking,” implying the track helps cars carry speed but not as aggressively as steeply banked ovals.
front end geometry
"And the, you know, all the front end geometry was right. [1012.8s] And I mean, we, we didn't show up with a piece of junk and I was a hero."
That phrase means the car’s front suspension alignment. It affects how the front tires sit on the track, which changes how easy the car is to steer and how stable it feels in turns.
In race-car setup, front end geometry refers to the suspension alignment settings at the front wheels—things like camber, caster, and toe—that determine how the tires contact the road. Getting it “right” helps the car turn predictably and stay stable under braking and cornering.
run the top
"but Erwin Dale, did you ever get to run there? [1031.1s] No, that's the first place for me that I had to run the top. [1036.2s] And, uh, everybody's run the bottom was a new track and you know, everything"
On an oval track, “the top” is the higher lane near the outside wall. Drivers choose it when they think the car will have more grip there, but it can feel different than driving low.
In oval racing, “run the top” means driving near the outer edge of the track rather than low on the banking. That choice changes the car’s balance and tire loading, and it often depends on track evolution and how much grip develops at different lanes.
run the bottom
"And, uh, everybody's run the bottom was a new track and you know, everything [1041.4s] I've raced, I'm used to painting the line, you know, and, uh, the top two or three were, had moved up"
“The bottom” is the lower lane near the inside of the track. Drivers use it when they think it’s the best line for grip and speed, but the best lane can change as the track gets used.
“Run the bottom” means driving low on an oval track, closer to the inside line. The bottom can offer different grip and turn-in characteristics than the top, and as the track changes over time, teams may shift lanes to stay in the fastest, most consistent groove.
painting the line
"I've raced, I'm used to painting the line, you know, and, uh, the top two or three were, had moved up and they're like a car length off the wall."
It’s a way of saying the driver tries to follow the same exact racing line every lap. That helps the car handle the same way and keeps performance from falling off.
“Painting the line” is racing slang for driving a consistent, precise path through a corner—hitting the same reference marks lap after lap. In stock-car racing, that consistency is crucial because small changes in line can affect tire wear and how much grip you have.
hanging on sideways
"And the Bush car, the next day you're hanging on sideways,"
That phrase means the car’s rear end is sliding out a bit, but the driver is still controlling it. It’s basically describing a looser, more “slidy” way of driving.
“Hanging on sideways” describes a loose, oversteer-prone driving condition where the car’s rear end is sliding while the driver keeps it under control. It’s a common way to describe how different series feel—one car may be stable while another encourages more rotation.
loose wheel
"We had a loose wheel, but I think we actually maybe even led some laps in that race."
A “loose wheel” means the wheel wasn’t tightened correctly. That can make the car feel unstable and can also damage tires and handling—so it’s a big problem in a race.
A “loose wheel” means the wheel isn’t properly secured, which can cause vibration, loss of control, and uneven tire wear. In racing, it’s a serious safety and performance issue because it can destabilize the car under load.
saving his tires
"He let me by and then, you know, I'm sure he got back by me at some point cause he was saving his tires and I was just, you know, at Atlanta I was just getting after it"
“Saving his tires” means not driving in a way that destroys the tires too fast. The goal is to stay competitive for longer, not just be fastest for a few laps.
“Saving his tires” is racing strategy where a driver manages tire wear to keep the car fast later in the run. It usually means easing off the throttle or adjusting driving inputs so the tires don’t overheat and degrade too quickly.
burning the right rear off
"at Atlanta I was just getting after it and sideways through every corner, just burning the right rear off."
That means the right-rear tire wore out really quickly. It usually happens when the car is sliding or turning hard in a way that makes the tire scrub and overheat.
“Burning the right rear off” describes rapid tire wear on the right-rear tire, often from excessive slip angle and aggressive cornering. In oval racing, that can happen when the car is loose and the driver is “getting after it” through every turn.
mile and a half
"Didn't know any better, but I had a blast and maybe Atlanta was probably one of the more fun mile and a half's to, to get that when you know, one of your first Bush starts"
That phrase is about how long the race track is—about 1.5 miles. Track length changes how the cars are driven and set up, including tire wear and how you go through the turns.
In NASCAR, “mile and a half” refers to the track length category (1.5 miles). That length strongly affects car setup and driving style—especially how often you brake, how you manage tire wear, and how you carry speed through the corners.
Cup series
"It's just the cup series is hard. [2098.7s] You know that being around it and, you know, cause everybody else is working just as hard"
NASCAR’s Cup Series is its main, top-tier racing series. It’s hard to be fast every week because everyone is trying just as hard and the competition is very strong.
In NASCAR, the Cup Series is the top-level national stock-car racing series. When the host says the “cup series is hard,” they’re talking about the overall competitiveness and difficulty of consistently running at the front against the best teams and drivers.
Loudon
"And there was a few times where I thought we had a car that could win. [2155.5s] Loudon being one of them. [2158.4s] Dover."
“Loudon” is a NASCAR track in New Hampshire. The speaker is saying they had some of their best chances to run well at that track.
“Loudon” refers to New Hampshire Motor Speedway in Loudon, a NASCAR venue known for its distinct oval layout and high-speed racing. The host is pointing out that their car showed strong potential there.
Dover
"[2158.4s] Dover. [2158.9s] We ran, we always are in good at Dover. [2161.0s] And so like I said, there was, you know, times where we were like, all right,"
“Dover” is a NASCAR track in Delaware. The speaker is saying they tend to do well there compared to other places.
“Dover” refers to Dover International Speedway, a NASCAR track known for its abrasive surface and demanding braking/traction characteristics. The host notes they’ve historically been strong there, implying their setup and driving style matched the circuit well.
Fontana
"[2180.3s] You know? [2180.3s] Yeah. [2182.6s] I've got an apology for you for Fontana. [2186.5s] I was trying to sideraft you and knocked a lesser tire off your car,"
“Fontana” is a race track in California where NASCAR events are held. On tracks like this, small mistakes—especially involving tires—can quickly affect handling and position.
“Fontana” refers to the NASCAR venue in Fontana, California—commonly associated with Auto Club Speedway (now known as Auto Club Speedway/California Speedway branding over time). It’s a high-speed oval where tire management and clean passing are critical.
sideraft
"[2182.6s] I've got an apology for you for Fontana. [2186.5s] I was trying to sideraft you and knocked a lesser tire off your car, [2190.1s] knocked a sidewall out of the left rear. [2191.7s] What, did you need a caution or something?"
“Sideraft” sounds like a rough attempt to get past by getting close to the other car. In NASCAR, that kind of contact can hit the tires and make the other driver lose control.
“Sideraft” here describes a contact-style maneuver used to get alongside or disrupt a competitor’s line—essentially sliding/pressuring near the other car rather than making a clean, fully separated pass. In NASCAR, even small contact can damage tires and upset the car’s balance.
sidewall
"[2186.5s] I was trying to sideraft you and knocked a lesser tire off your car, [2190.1s] knocked a sidewall out of the left rear. [2191.7s] What, did you need a caution or something? [2193.2s] No, we were racing for position."
The sidewall is the tough outer part of the tire. If it gets damaged, the tire can fail and the car can suddenly feel unstable, especially while turning.
The sidewall is the outer wall of a tire that protects the tire’s structure and helps it handle cornering loads. In this story, knocking out the sidewall would quickly damage the tire and destabilize the car.
caution
"[2186.5s] I was trying to sideraft you and knocked a lesser tire off your car, [2190.1s] knocked a sidewall out of the left rear. [2191.7s] What, did you need a caution or something? [2193.2s] No, we were racing for position."
A caution is when something unsafe happens on the track, so the race slows down. Everyone has to drive more carefully, and it can give drivers a chance to change strategy or regain position.
In NASCAR, a caution is when race officials slow or stop the field due to a hazard on track (like debris or an accident). Drivers typically reduce speed and follow the pace car, which can change track position and strategy.
qualified six or seventh
"And we qualified six or seventh, but I remember I had nailed one in the [2653.2s] two and screwed up three and four."
“Qualified” means they set their starting spot before the race. Being “six or seventh” means they started near the front, which usually helps you avoid traffic and get clean track position.
In NASCAR, “qualified” refers to the qualifying session where drivers set their starting position for the race. Finishing “six or seventh” means they earned a front-of-pack grid spot, which can be a big advantage early in the race.
Turner Motorsports
"We continued to race in the rally series. [2677.0s] Turner Motorsports would acquire Bronn racing. [2679.6s] They'd switched to Chevrolets."
Turner Motorsports is a racing team. Here, they’re buying another team and changing to Chevrolet cars, which changes what the drivers and mechanics work with.
Turner Motorsports is a racing team/company that competes in sports car and other motorsport series. In this segment, they’re described as acquiring another team and switching to Chevrolet, which affects the cars, engineering, and driver programs.
Chevrolets
"Turner Motorsports would acquire Bronn racing. [2679.6s] They'd switched to Chevrolets. [2681.0s] You ran full time with them in 2011, the $32 general car that we all"
They switched to Chevrolet race cars. That usually means the whole team has to adapt the car setup and parts to a different manufacturer’s platform.
“Chevrolets” here means the team switched to cars made by Chevrolet. In racing, changing the manufacturer typically changes the platform, engine/packaging, and how the team develops setup and parts for that specific car.
road America
"You ran full time with them in 2011, the $32 general car that we all [2686.5s] remember really well. [2687.7s] One at road America, back to Victor Lane, several top five finishes leading the"
Road America is a famous race track (a road course) in the U.S. It has lots of turns and elevation changes, so how the car is set up matters a lot.
Road America is a well-known road course in the United States, famous for its long, flowing corners and elevation changes. It’s the kind of track where setup and driver technique can strongly influence lap times and race results.
points with five races to go
"One at road America, back to Victor Lane, several top five finishes leading the [2692.4s] points with five races to go in the season, your third and points. [2698.0s] Turner's going to announce you no longer are driving the car."
They’re talking about the season standings, where drivers earn points at each race. With only a few races left, those points matter a lot for who can still win the title.
“Points” refers to the championship standings system where drivers earn points based on race finishes. “Five races to go” indicates the season is near its end, so the points gap and remaining schedule heavily influence who can still win the championship.
Victor Lane
"One at road America, back to Victor Lane, several top five finishes leading the [2692.4s] points with five races to go in the season, your third and points."
“Victory Lane” (spoken here as “Victor Lane”) is the traditional area at many racing venues where the winner is celebrated after the checkered flag. It’s become a motorsport term for the post-race winner’s podium/celebration spot.
shut the engine off
"So as soon as I saw the caution lights and caution, I'm shut the engine off and coast and still a hundred and something miles an hour."
He’s describing a fuel-saving move where he turns the engine off to use less gas. The idea is to keep going long enough to make it to the end without stopping for fuel.
“Shut the engine off” describes a fuel-saving tactic where the driver turns the engine off during a caution or coasting phase to reduce fuel consumption. The goal is to stretch fuel enough to avoid a pit stop, even while maintaining very high speed by coasting.
coast
"So as soon as I saw the caution lights and caution, I'm shut the engine off and coast and still a hundred and something miles an hour."
Here “coast” means he’s letting the car roll without using the engine much. It helps save fuel, especially during a slow-down period like a caution.
In this context, “coast” means the car is rolling with minimal or no engine power while the driver manages speed and fuel usage. NASCAR cautions often create opportunities to coast because the field is moving more slowly and teams are focused on fuel conservation.
pace car speed
"And yeah, they tried to say I didn't keep pace car speed, which we did. So we ended up winning the race, but he was mad as hell."
During a caution, a pace car leads the field and everyone has to match its speed. If someone doesn’t keep that pace, officials may say they didn’t follow the rules.
“Pace car speed” refers to the speed the field is expected to maintain behind the pace car during a caution. NASCAR officials can judge whether a driver kept the required pace, which matters because going too fast (or too slow) can affect race fairness and outcomes.
25 grand
"Hey, this guy's got 25 grand to come drive the car. Well, there was several times he would keep me in the car because he knew I wouldn't wreck it."
He’s talking about money that can be paid to get a chance to drive a race car. The point is that wrecking costs a lot more than the upfront payment.
In NASCAR, “25 grand” here is shorthand for a driver/team deal where a driver (or their backers) pays to get seat time. The speaker contrasts this with the cost of repairs if the driver wrecks the car.
push it
"even when Ross got in the car, you know, he wanted us to push it. And we wanted to finish the best we could, especially if we had partners on the car."
“Push it” means driving as hard as you safely can to go faster. But in racing, going too hard can also increase the chance of crashing.
“Push it” is racing shorthand for driving at the limit—using more throttle/braking/turn-in aggression to maximize lap time. In NASCAR strategy terms, it often means balancing speed against the risk of wrecking the car.
partners on the car
"And we wanted to finish the best we could, especially if we had partners on the car. But it was definitely, there was a pen and paper with how much we're spending and what"
“Partners on the car” means other people or companies helping pay for the car to race. If they’re involved, the team may be more careful about avoiding wrecks and trying to finish well.
“Partners on the car” refers to co-sponsors or co-owners who financially back the team and expect results. That can affect how aggressively a driver pushes the car, because the team is trying to protect the investment and finish strong.
pen and paper
"But it was definitely, there was a pen and paper with how much we're spending and what we're allowed to do."
He’s saying there’s a written budget and limits on spending. When there’s a cap, teams have to make choices about how much they can risk or how much they can use during the weekend.
“Pen and paper” here points to strict budgeting and rules about what teams are allowed to spend during a race weekend. That kind of cost control can influence decisions like how often to change tires or how much to risk the car.
used tires
"like, listen, I was like, some of these times that I'm racing against you guys, I'm on your used tires from practice racing."
Used tires are tires that have already been driven on before. They usually don’t grip as well as brand-new tires, so the car feels slower and harder to drive fast.
“Used tires” are tires that have already been run in earlier sessions, so they typically have less grip than fresh tires. The speaker is emphasizing how much slower a car can be when you’re racing on used tires compared with new ones.
practice
"some of these times that I'm racing against you guys, I'm on your used tires from practice racing. And, you know, a lot of people have never been in a slow car, don't understand how hard it is."
Practice is the time before the main race where teams and drivers try things out and get the car dialed in. The tires from practice can sometimes be reused later, affecting speed.
“Practice” in NASCAR is the on-track session where teams test setups and drivers learn the car’s behavior. Tires used during practice can carry over to later sessions, which is why the speaker mentions racing on “used tires from practice.”
new tires
"And, you know, a lot of people have never been in a slow car, don't understand how hard it is. Like we're already a second off with new tires."
New tires are brand-new tires with full grip. He’s saying that with new tires the car is about a second faster, which shows how big the tire difference is.
“New tires” are freshly mounted tires that generally provide maximum grip and more consistent performance. The speaker uses the “new tires” comparison to show how much faster the car is when the tires are fresh.
Darlington
"You go to a place like Darlington where there's nowhere to get out of the way. And you're, you know, you got to run 350 miles in the freaking way, you know, and you're doing,"
Darlington is a famous NASCAR race track. If your car is damaged, it’s really hard to pull aside and let others pass, because the track doesn’t give you much room.
Darlington is a NASCAR track in Darlington, South Carolina, known for being tight and unforgiving when you’re dealing with damage. The layout makes it hard to “get out of the way,” so limping cars can create real traffic and safety challenges.
850 CC
"So my car was the third one built and it had an 850 CC in it. They had 1100s or 1200s in other cars."
“850 CC” is the engine size. It’s a way of describing how much air/fuel the engine can move, and smaller numbers usually mean a more controlled, lower-cost race setup.
“850 CC” refers to engine displacement—how much volume the engine’s cylinders move per cycle. Smaller displacement engines like 850 cc are common in Legends-style racing to keep costs down and performance relatively controlled.
first Legends race ever
"And then they, you know, they, when I ran, when we ran our first race, it was the very first legends race ever. And it was on the Charlotte oval..."
They’re talking about the very beginning of the Legends series—like the first-ever race. It’s interesting because the cars and rules weren’t fully standardized yet.
This segment is about the origins of the Legends car series—specifically that the speaker’s race was described as the very first Legends race ever. That kind of “early days” context helps explain why the cars and rules were still evolving.
Charlotte oval
"And it was the very first legends race ever. And it was on the Charlotte oval in front of the flag stand in front of the grand stand..."
“Charlotte oval” means the oval race track in Charlotte where stock cars run. Ovals are different from road courses because you’re mostly turning left at speed for long stretches.
The “Charlotte oval” refers to the oval track layout at Charlotte’s major motorsports complex (commonly associated with Charlotte Motor Speedway). Oval racing changes how cars are set up—especially for stability through long turns and high-speed drafting.
struts
"[4760.6s] I was basically, I would get the struts off of the Japanese cars and cut the [4764.9s] spindles and then they would, you know, take it from there."
Struts are part of the suspension that help the tires stay in contact with the road. They also help control how the car moves when you hit bumps or turn.
Struts are suspension components that combine a shock absorber with a structural mounting point. In a race car, changing struts affects how the car absorbs bumps and how it handles through turns.
spindles
"[4760.6s] I was basically, I would get the struts off of the Japanese cars and cut the [4764.9s] spindles and then they would, you know, take it from there. [4768.1s] But, um, I did a lot of parts washing like that."
Spindles are the parts that hold the wheel and connect it to the suspension. They help determine how the wheel moves and how the car steers.
Spindles are the steering-and-wheel mounting components that connect the suspension to the wheel hub. In many race builds, spindle choice or modification changes steering geometry and how the car loads the tires.
front clip
"[4792.4s] I mean, I just, it just bent the front clip and I went to Kenny and I said, Hey, I [4796.0s] think I need a front clip. [4796.9s] And he goes, we've never put a front clip on one yet."
A “front clip” is basically the front section of the car’s body structure. Instead of repairing every bent piece individually, teams replace that whole front section to get the car back racing faster.
A “clip” in collision repair is a pre-fabricated section of the car’s body structure (front or rear) that can be replaced as a unit. In race-car contexts, a “front clip” is often a standardized, replaceable front-end structure to speed repairs after impacts.
jig
"[4800.1s] So we had, you know, we go throw it on the jig and put a new front clip on it. [4803.2s] That's interesting. [4803.8s] Cause that, you know, that I found my car."
A jig is a tool that holds parts in the right spot while you install or repair them. It helps make sure everything lines up correctly after the car is damaged.
A jig is a fixture used to hold parts in the correct position while work is performed. In body repair, using a jig helps ensure alignment and structural geometry are correct after replacing a clip.
flat
"I won one race, um, on the flat Charlotte oval at the front straightaway."
Here “flat” means the track isn’t very banked in that area. When corners are flatter, you need more grip and careful throttle control to keep speed without sliding.
In this context, “flat” describes a section of the track with little banking, where cars rely more on traction and throttle control than on banking-induced cornering force. That changes how you set up the car and how you drive the front straightaway.
turn three
"I ran a cup, I won a couple of races on the dirt track behind turn three."
“Turn three” is just the third corner on the track. Mentioning it helps pinpoint where on the course the racing happened.
“Turn three” is a named corner on a specific oval layout, used by drivers to describe where a maneuver or race result happened. Saying the dirt-track wins were “behind turn three” locates the action on the infield/secondary racing surface relative to the main circuit.
late model racing
"And then after the end of that year, I went late model racing."
Late model racing is a lower-tier stock-car series run on smaller tracks. A lot of drivers use it to build experience and move up to bigger NASCAR events.
“Late model racing” is a stock-car category typically run on short tracks, often serving as a stepping stone to higher NASCAR tiers. Cars are usually purpose-built for oval racing, and the competition is known for close, aggressive racing.
Talladega
"the guy that owned that truck that does the pace lap at sharp, uh, Talladega, the never met him."
Talladega is a super-fast NASCAR track in Alabama. Cars often run in tight groups, so the pace lap is a key moment for getting lined up and ready to race.
Talladega is a famous NASCAR superspeedway in Alabama known for high speeds and pack racing. It’s also where the “pace lap” concept matters because cars bunch up and drivers manage drafting and positioning from the start.
pace lap
"the guy that owned that truck that does the pace lap at sharp, uh, Talladega, the never met him."
A pace lap is a slower lap before the race really starts. It helps everyone get lined up and ready—tires and brakes are warmed up and drivers can settle into position.
A “pace lap” is a controlled lap run at reduced speed to get cars properly staged and warmed up before the race. In NASCAR-style events, it’s also when drivers confirm alignment, tire readiness, and drafting plans.
serial number 1990
"I mean, it's serial number 1990."
A serial number is like a unique ID for the car. It’s used to confirm you’re looking at the exact same chassis, even if the color or body details changed.
A “serial number” is an identifying tag used to track a specific race car chassis over time. In racing, it helps prove ownership/history—especially when the car has been stored, repainted, or partially rebuilt.
bear chassis
"And so I go over there and it's a bear chassis. It's got the body still on it."
The chassis is the car’s main frame. If it’s a “Bear” chassis, that’s the specific builder/model of frame, and it matters because it’s the foundation for how the car handles.
A “chassis” is the structural frame that everything else mounts to, and “Bear” here appears to be the chassis builder/model name. Chassis identity matters in racing because the frame affects rigidity, setup options, and the car’s documented history.
aluminum body
"It's got the body still on it. It had a aluminum body. We had a aluminum bodies back then the whole side, top roof, everything, aluminum."
An aluminum body means the car’s outer panels are made of aluminum instead of steel. It can make the car lighter and can affect how the car feels and holds up during racing.
An “aluminum body” means the outer panels are made from aluminum rather than steel. Aluminum can reduce weight and change how the car flexes and responds, which can matter for handling and durability in racing.
shock mount
"And when it slammed down, it, it bit the shock mount on the right rear. [4910.4s] Well, it kept it that way."
It’s the bracket/attachment point that holds the shock (the part that controls bounce) to the car. If it gets bent or damaged, the suspension won’t work the way it’s supposed to.
A shock mount is the structural point where a suspension shock/strut attaches to the chassis. If the shock mount gets damaged or shifts, the suspension geometry changes and the car can handle unpredictably.
legends car racing
"[4917.4s] Cause it was, uh, this where the, on the, on the old original legends cars, this shock, the top shock mount for the rears was in a bung that was in the center of this post... [4952.4s] But yeah, man, I had some legends car racing."
Legends car racing is a type of lower-cost, standardized stock-car racing. Since the cars are built to similar rules, the same kind of damage can happen to the same parts.
Legends car racing refers to a spec-style grassroots racing series built around standardized “Legends” cars. Because many parts and mounting points are standardized, common chassis/suspension damage patterns can repeat across cars.
parallel post
"Cause it was, uh, this where the, on the, on the old original legends cars, this shock, the top shock mount for the rears was in a bung that was in the center of this post and it was a parallel post and there was no gusset or nothing."
They’re describing the shape/arrangement of the metal support that the shock mounts to. Because the original design wasn’t reinforced, it bent when the suspension hit hard.
In this context, a parallel post describes the way the rear shock mounting structure is arranged—posts positioned to carry loads into the chassis. The speaker is saying the original design lacked reinforcement, so the post bent under impact.
gusset
"So it bent that post up like this. [4931.8s] I beat her straight and welded a little gusset in there. [4935.1s] That was in there."
A gusset is a small metal reinforcement you weld in to make a weak spot stronger. It helps stop parts from bending after hits or heavy loads.
A gusset is a reinforcing plate or triangular bracket welded in to strengthen a joint or area that’s prone to bending. In race cars, adding a gusset can prevent repeated impacts from deforming suspension mounting posts.
Jeep Renegade
"...tin bought everything we owned. He showed up in a renegade. For his son."
The Jeep Renegade is a small SUV. An SUV is a car with more space and a higher driving position than a regular sedan, and it’s designed for everyday driving with some options for rougher roads.
The Jeep Renegade is a compact SUV built for everyday driving with available off-road capability. It’s often discussed because it represents Jeep’s move into smaller, more practical vehicles while still carrying the brand’s rugged styling and features. In a podcast context, it can come up as a recognizable, mainstream “Jeep” option that someone might choose for a family or daily-use vehicle.
Request an Explanation
Heard something you'd like explained? We'll add it to this episode.
Sign in to request explanations for terms you heard.
Want to learn more?
Browse our glossary for plain-English explanations of automotive terms, jargon, and concepts.
Help improve this episode
See something that's not quite right? Our annotations are AI-generated and can sometimes miss the mark. Click the flag icon on any annotation to suggest a correction.