S2 Ep21: Here's How Much It REALLY Cost To Fix The World’s Worst Mini
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I have never seen you drive home fairly late at night with your arms dead straight, just
good. It's good. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Autotics Podcast home of automotive,
financial mistakes, our life in cars, and your questions answered today. Rory Taylor and I will
fill your ear and your eye holes with discussions about what we've been up to. We'll play a new game
of which car came first. You remember last time we did that? I've got another one coming.
And we'll try and help one of you guys or a couple of you guys with your keep or quit dilemmas.
But before any of that happens, a massive and I mean a huge humongous hello to
Martin Franklin, whose 29th birthday it was on Friday. Happy birthday, Martin. Not happy birthday.
Hello to Postman Andreas in Germany. Kev Haggis, who emailed in. Good morning. Love you all by
Kev. Thanks for the email, Kev. We've got, what was the email address?
Podcasts at autoicscars.com. Show off. We've got Dejan working on his Porsche engine swapped
VW T1 split screen. Connor Walker, who inspired by our stroke is our 53 mini, all the way to
Greece. He's one up there. Fair play to him. That's good guy. There's no way your mini would
make it to Greece, Taylor, would there? And yours? We're about to find out. Are we driving to Greece?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rory, do you want to shake on it? I reckon it would. I think yours would
break down before mine. Can I just get through this bit? Okay, sorry. Thank you. Nigel Hanna
listening in his new to him 1991 Mercedes 500, SEL and... Rory's Mum Jackie. Sorry, I was a bit,
I can't fix it. Yeah, I tricked you there, didn't I? I tricked you. How is Rory's Mum Jackie?
Yeah, she's doing all right. Good. She's been on any holidays?
Yeah, she has actually. She drove to Croatia in her jams. She went to Mallorca, didn't she?
A little winter getaway. Oh, really? That's nice. We should do that. Actually, all we do is go on
all the day, isn't it, at the moment? Yeah, no, that's not true. It's work. It is work. It's a hard
graph. Anyway, before we get into the podcast, what have we all been up to? Rory, what have you
been up to? What have we been up to? Oh, also, the podcast location is different.
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. So we've been evicted. We've been chucked out.
Top Dead Center needed some more space, and we managed to actually get a storage unit for the
cars. Yeah. So we've removed all those cars that were in the background, because now they're going
to go in long-term storage, because Alex and I drive them, and they'll just sit there and
collect dust for the rest of time, and eventually we're all away and they'll be seen again. I mean,
it's true. Shut up. And they're going to have that unit as their second bay to sort of,
so they can do long-term projects like an R6 that's probably going to take years and years to
fix. Yeah. So yeah, we've moved to this little corner of our unit. I like it. I think it's more
real down with the kids. Although I imagine it's going to be quite cold. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got
our little fire. Where's the fire gone? Well, the fire didn't make it. The fire didn't make it.
Is the fire in the skip? No. It bloody better not be. Bloody better not be. You haven't put that
fire in the skip. Just like my coin loavers, bloody better not be in the skip that you were saying
yesterday we put in the skip. They're not actually in the skip on our side. That was quite funny.
He was getting very well. They've got a lot of sentimental value to me.
150 pounds. Alex, have you cashed all of those DVLA checks that you get back for the time? No.
Speaking of money, Rory, you've been spending lots of it, haven't you? I've spent a lot of it.
You may remember on the V2 channel, Rory has got the world's shittest
mini R56. Well, in all fairness, it was. It was. It was. And then we were in the unit yesterday,
and Chris from Merch was just saying, Rory, how deep do you think you are in? And Rory was like,
well, you know, I've spent this on that, that on this, and he tied tools about 4,600 pounds.
And then Taylor and I were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you remember that? Did you remember
this? And what about that? And he was like, oh, well, goodbye.
So Rory, all in all, we have everything now, the bodywork, the wheels, all the bits you've
put on this. Yeah, including the Febbi stuff. Including the Febbi stuff. Also the labour.
And the BC Coilers. Yeah, Taylor's labour. If we paid an average labour rate.
I've got the figure here. Do you remember that figure, Rory? Wasn't it like the figure you gave
was 4,600 pounds? That's how much I thought I was into it, which of my own money, I'm now 5,600
pounds into it. Which is far too much, to be honest. In reality, if you're a normal punter
with a shit mini and you had all of this work done, how deep would you be in? I think it was like
11 and a half grand. It was 11,670 pounds. 11,670 pounds. To put it into perspective, Rory,
I paid just over that for my M5. To put it into perspective, Rory, I paid just under that for
my M5. That is true. So look, I've got one more question. Yeah. When are you buying a mini?
I'm not buying a mini. You need to buy a mini. No, I have. You need to buy it. You need to buy
an antidote to a mini. No, it's rubbish. You need to buy a mini. What do you mean it's rubbish?
It was your car, man. What? That you sold to me. I overpaid. I thought you meant that rusty old
Honda. No, no, no. I think that's game over for that Honda. Okay. So obviously, we're talking
about a car that Alex says because he bought his first hot hatch and it was so terrible.
We've had to scrap it. Which one was that? Oh, your Civic. So we're going to take the engine
out of it and use the seats, but the body is too far gone. Yeah, that's too far gone. Yeah,
there's literally no point. No. Also, we can get it welded for quite cheap because Jamie
does good deals, doesn't he? Yeah. However, it needs a full re-spray. Even the welding,
it's not worth it. Even just the welding cost on that would be like nearly two grand, I reckon.
Full re-spray would be two or three grand. Yeah. And then what's the point? I could buy a really
nice EP3 with lower mileage. It's done 186,000 miles. Yeah. And also, that's a pre-facelift,
so it's not really worth it. And if it had a nice interior and good mechanicals and good body
wear, I'd say, yeah, do it, but it's just all rubbish. Do you know what, though? That drive home
was so fun. It was fun. I really like an EP3 Civic Type R. I think for me, that's the best kind
of budget I've ever had. I have never seen you drive home fairly late at night with your arms
dead straight, just limmy bashing it. I did do that. I did do that. You weren't even going fast.
You were just revving it and you'd like blip the throttle. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah.
And that's silly exhaust and everything. But yeah, that thing needs to go in the bin. But yeah,
we are going to keep the engine gearbox and the seats as well. Seats are worth quite a lot,
apparently. Lots of people have been saying that I'm kind of quitting with that, so that's quite
good. But yeah, so you've got minis. You've got a nearly £12,000 mini. Yeah, admit it.
Look, if we're going by that process, I think he's still in deeper than me. No,
I'm actually not. No, you are. No. Let's exclude the fact that you could do what you did
where you bought and sold and swapped the interiors and then got all your parts. No,
because that's not the point. No, that is the point. I don't like it when Mummy and Mummy
fight. If you were to buy all of that stuff that is on your mini and then installed it by a mechanic,
because that's the exact same as what we're talking about, I reckon you're in more.
Not yet. But you will be. Because the mini is coming up. I need to get it in and fix it all.
Once that's all done, then yeah, probably. But not at the moment.
Look, the point is, both of you bought the wrong car. I bought the correct car and I'm not talking
about the Honda Civic Type R. I'm talking about the car that I overpaid. Which is?
All I'm going to say. The Renault Clio trophy. All I'm going to say about the trophy.
A far, far better car. It's an amazing car and I really like it and I always, always wanted one.
And I drove it and I really like it. It's a great, it's genuinely a great car.
And I drove my mini and I was like, there's the first thing that I thought when I drove it is
there's no point in me keeping that trophy because I'll never drive it. Because I prefer
driving the mini. That's fair. That's fair. And from your little taster of driving this.
What, the R56, your turbocharged one? The R56 is awesome. I don't know how long it's going to last,
but for now it's awesome. And do you know what? Hats off to you. When you bought that, I thought
that is a terrible mistake because that is rubbish. And I thought that's going to sit in the paddock.
We're never going to do anything with it because it's rubbish. And then you started buying bits,
right? And I was like, nah, this is crap. Like, I didn't really like the headlights.
I thought the wheels looked a bit meh and the rear lamps and all that. And the spoiler,
oh, that spoiler that you bought was awful. Which should be takeoff. And then you got it back from
the body shop and we lowered it and we put wheel spacers on it and it's got the new bumpers on it.
And I thought, this is awesome. And then we drove it and obviously it was slow. But now that you've
chipped, it's actually just in general really good car. And the best thing is it only cost the
equivalent of nearly £12,000. Fantastic value for money. So what we're going to do is you've
got the R56, you've got the R53, both Cooper S's. And Alex is buying an F56. No, I'm not. I have got
the Clio Trophy. It needs new front suspension, which I'm going to rob off another car. And then
we're going to take those three cars on a track and then find out which is A, the fastest and then
B, the most entertaining. Now, question. I know that this is a V2 series. Yeah. What about the
Nurburgring? We're going to go to Landau. You want to go to the Nurburgring because you still
haven't driven your car on. I know. Yeah. And I thought it'd be quite fun. Yeah. We'll think about
it. We'll talk about it, but maybe Landau for now and then maybe we can up the ante afterwards.
Because I'll probably need a turbo, won't I? Well, we should really blow yours up. It's by the
part. Oh, exactly. And then we'll, yeah, we'll casewap it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do that. Anyway,
sorry, Rory, I took away from you. What have you been up to except for spending an exorbitant
amount on a shit mini? I've been spending an exorbitant amount. Yeah. I went to Greece with
Ellie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I went to Skiathos. Yeah. Which was a bit interesting because we went in,
obviously, mid-October. So everything was a bit shut. The weather was, I think we got the last
of the good bit of weather, but apparently the two weeks beforehand, it was pissing it down.
Oh, really? So much so that most of the restaurants and everything's shut because they were like,
well, we're not going to carry on. We'll close for the season. But yeah, it was really nice
just to get away. And then, what else? I went to Pembroke as well. Yeah. Took Bailey to the beach
for the first time. Bailey, the depressed dog. He's not... Taylor's met Bailey. I stayed at
Rory's the other night. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was. So I stayed at Rory's the other night. I got up in
the morning. I was in the shower and all I could hear was him doing his opera voice. Really?
He walks around going, oh. What, Bailey or the dog? No, him. He's so noisy. But yeah, Bailey
genuinely is great. I really like Bailey. He's got a great temperament. He's not like misbehaved.
He's not a pain in the arse. He's just actually a very nice dog. Did you see him go near any shoes?
So Bailey sleeps in the same room as a basket of shoes. Oh, yeah. And he hasn't touched any of them.
All right. Okay. Give it, give it time. And I've seen it firsthand. Give it time. He's not touched
a single shoe. Give it time. He doesn't touch anything for his toys. Rory, can I go around
your house at some point? You're not putting a shoe. Do you know what? I will say he was round
one. My brother-in-law's house. Why did you put your hand out like that? My brother-in-law?
His name's Corey. And Corey... Hold on. Did you get married? No. Why are you saying brother-in-law?
I was just wondering. I don't know. All of Ellie's family just refer to it as that.
Look, right. They would get funny if I didn't say it. So I'm saying it.
All right. So what, you practically think you are married?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the way they do it. And then, yeah. So Corey decided that he'd
put a toy in Bailey's mouth and then AI it. So then he started sending me pictures of Bailey with
different, different shoes and stuff. And he was like, how much does it worth? I'll send these
dialogues. I've seen those pictures and they're very, very good. Yeah. Very good. Funny, actually.
And then, yeah. Obviously, I've been doing this mini, which I will say, I think has
been worth it in the long run. I agree with that. Yeah. Look, this would have gone to scrap.
Yeah. And I will, I was saying to Taylor, look, I know, obviously, if we were doing this by the
book and everything like that, yeah, we would be 11 and a half, but I'm not on five and a half into
it. Okay. Which I don't think I could get a car with this amount of mods in this condition.
What about an R53? Oh, yeah, easy. Yeah. I do think you could get one of these
with this amount of mods and all that blah, blah, blah. But it's, I've really enjoyed doing it.
Yeah. I think it's been quite fun, like, because this was really shit when you got it.
Yeah. This was scrap yard worthy crap. As much as it pains me to say it's a good looking car now
as well. And I don't like minis. Your question. Yeah, go on. Do you dislike minis because you've
not experienced them or because we have them? Bit of both, really. Really. I think it's mainly
because you have them. So you're just saying it for the print support. It's not because you
actually have a bad experience. Do you know how I know it's absolute shit that he doesn't like
minis? Because he gets in Rihans and he's like, it's a good car. This went all the way to skiing
or whatever when they went to the south of France. And I did 55 MPG, you just sat there,
cruise control. 55 MPG. You don't have radar guided cruise control in this either. It's not
comfortable. Actually, it is with the PCs now. Look, I find minis too gimmicky.
No, admit that you like Rihans Mini. I like Rihans Mini. Does yours have a little thing that
says go-kart mode? No. Does it not? Okay, well, the new one's doing. That's so gimmicky and shit.
You say gimmicky. I would use the word like characterful. They're so cool inside.
But there's so many of them because they're good. They're so common. I just don't like common cars
and I don't like common cars. I was literally about to say that is the most common thing on the road.
It's a 530DX drive. It's common in carbon black. Yes, but it's not a fun car. I don't buy that
because I want it to be fun and characterful. You do, but there's so many of them. I like
rarity. That's what I like in a car and you don't get it with that. I don't care about my daily
driver. That's completely different cat and fish. All right, your second car that you love the most
and MX-5. Yeah, but I've made them popular. Yeah. And you can't say you've made it different
because we've made these different. Well, think about all the other cars I own. They're all kind
of unique. BMW E46. M3 Touring. Unique. Yeah, but you can't. It doesn't count because you've made
it unique. No, you still bought a 330i. Shut up and calm down. I love it. He changed this
subject when we proved him wrong. 309 GTI. Cleo Williams. You've never driven it.
Cleo Williams. You've driven the Cleo Williams. Just for a video purpose. Miles, a high mileage hero.
It's a Skoda. Never driven. It's a cab. What do you mean never driven? We've just done a whole
series, man. Never driven it apart from a video. You've never driven it apart from a video.
I drove it to the Nurburgring. For a video? Yeah. Anything else to report, Rory? Or are you just
going to feel bad? I think that's about it, really. What have we got in here? What have we got in here?
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I can't remember what I said last time. When did I get up to? So I bought my mini. Yeah.
I bought that bag. I also bought a new daily. Yeah. Remember, I had the car lemma last time.
You did. Yeah. So I bought a new daily. Yeah. Where did you get that from?
I bought it from my mate, Henry. In Birmingham. No, it's not from Birmingham.
It's from Birmingham. Look, just because he's got a couple of bits on it.
Couple of bits. Birmingham. Couple of bits. So if you had seen that on the road
and someone had pulled up in that and gone, say, nice car, no, you would have gone, would you?
He would have gone, nice car. And then turned around and gone, look,
it's got a couple of bits on it that I will be taking off. I'm going to leave some of them on
because I like it. Well, like the fake carbon fiber wind covers. Yeah, they're coming off.
What about the gloss black spoiler that's been stuck on?
I'm going to keep the spoiler, but change the colour of it. Okay.
But the other bits are same. What colour are you going to change that?
Am I going to do it sat in black or white? Because it should be sat in black from factory,
because it's got the M Performance kit on it. Anyway. Which looks so classy.
Look, right. I don't want classy. I don't care. I'm living my youth.
You're past your youth, then. You are past your youth.
No, I thought to myself, do you know what? I'm a bit bored of driving old man cars,
because I just drive all these old man stuff all the time. I want something that makes me feel
youthful. Okay. So I bought myself a car. So you've got a BMW 3-series saloon.
Yeah, with front tints and carbon mirror caps. How's that working out for you?
It's good. Is it really?
Don't forget the big M Performance down on the side.
Yeah, that's classy. So anyway, last time I said I really wanted an F31 or a Golf GTD.
I was looking at them obsessing over it. We had a little bit about the Golf GTD, didn't we?
Yeah, for a reason. I didn't buy one. So I said to my mate, Henry, for ages, I want a car like yours,
because I know you had a nice one. And I went with him to buy his car when he originally bought
it. Yeah. And I know that it was a good car. And I said, I want one like yours. They're just hard
to find. I couldn't find one anywhere. And he was like, well, why don't you just buy mine?
And I was like, would you sell it? And he was like, yeah. So I did a little deal and I bought it.
Nice. So I've got a 330D F30 with 102K on it. And it's got full history. It's got diamond
cut wheels, all lovely, lovely. And it's white. I wanted a white one. I was looking for a white
one. It's a little bit tarty. It's a little bit chubby. And it suits me down to the ground.
It really does. Yeah. And do you know what? Yeah, go on.
I want to say it's my favorite driving daily I've ever had. I love the way it drives.
It's really good. How long? I'm going to give this one to March next year.
Really? I reckon... I was thinking June. June? No, I'm going March.
Okay. Should we put 20 quid on it? Yeah. Okay, we're shaking.
Okay. Anyway. How many bets do we have at the moment?
There's probably nearly like two grand worth of bets. You need to have a bets list.
We do. You've not got long for the £200 shoe eating.
Oh, that's fine. I'm still confident. Also, my 540R is a little update. I think
where I left it off last time, it was broken and not running. I've taken it up to my mate,
James, up north, very far up north to up north. And he has managed to fix it.
And it's now running. Yes. And it's running a substantial amount of power.
How much is substantial? I'm not going to reveal how much.
Why not? But it's a fair amount more than your E39M5.
What are we talking about? 440 brake? Around maybe that region.
I did point out, Taylor was saying this about which more than Alex is. I was like,
Taylor, you do realise it's more than your other M5 as well? It is. Yeah, it really is.
But yeah, I'm genuinely so excited to get the car back. I'm buzzing. I think about it every
single day. So how much longer do you have to wait until it's back with you?
I was going to get it today, but he would like to spend a bit more time with it,
and I've had some other bits to do. So I'm going to try and get it Friday next week.
You owe him a lot of fuel money. I do, yeah. Yeah, he messaged me saying,
so who's paying for this then? I was like, I'm bloody, I'm not.
He said, Taylor's car. It's your bloody car, man.
I still got me invoiced. Right, okay, of course you will.
And he's even said that he could maybe look at my 330i. Yeah.
So that's actually a moment, it's 320 horsepower, and he said there's no reason
with a smaller pulley, bigger injectors and a different map, that that couldn't get to 400 horsepower.
I kind of want to do that. I want to blow it out.
Yeah, but then you'll just go down the road once and it blows up.
Alex has been really salty about this. I'm not being salty.
Because then it would be quicker than his M320.
It doesn't matter. It will blow up so quickly. It will have no reliability with it.
And then we'll put another M54 in it. How long will that take?
Two days. Minimum two days.
Two days. Minimum two days.
Two days. With you doing it?
I could do it in two days. Could you?
Yeah. Right, let's have a bet.
20 quid? 20 quid?
Oh, that's a weird add. Let's do that again. That was nice.
Jesus Christ. Right, add it to the bets list.
Anything else?
And also, I've been going to the gym.
So, I've seen one picture of you on a treadmill.
How many more times have you been?
I've been three times since then.
Have you?
Yeah. So, I went once last week and sorry.
Yeah, three times in total.
So, I went once last week and I've been twice this week.
What machines have you been using?
So, I tend to do a 30-minute warm-up on the treadmill.
Okay.
So, I'll do half an hour on that.
And I don't...
Do you walk or do you jog?
Do you go jogging?
I don't really like jogging or running
because I know it sounds bad, but I get shin splints
and my knees hurt a bit.
I get quite bad knees.
So, no puns. Thank you very much.
I know what you're thinking.
So, I tend to do...
Fill in the gaps at home.
I tend to do fast walking but on a really steep incline.
So, I put the incline up to 12 or 13 and I do it for half an hour.
Okay, that's good.
So, I do that and then I do some weights usually.
I've been doing weights more than legs.
Okay, nice.
I tend to do the machine that goes up.
Yeah, the shoulders.
Yeah, here.
And then I do the pull-up.
Okay, so back.
Yeah.
And then I do the curler.
Yeah, biceps.
Yeah.
And yesterday, I did legs.
Oh, yeah.
So, I did the way you put your legs on the board
and you push it up, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And then...
The quads, yeah.
I did the lifty, upy one.
Yeah, so, upper leg here.
And then I did the one where you land your front knee
and you lift it up backwards.
That's a burner, that.
Oh, yeah, that gets your ass, doesn't it?
That's a burner, yeah.
That's good.
That's good.
So, yeah, I've been doing all of that.
Are you Jimmy by yourself or you've got someone going with you?
No, I go with my mate, Salve.
Oh, okay.
So, I've worked out this great technique.
Yeah, okay.
So, here we go.
This is going to be good.
Everyone listen to me about this in the morning.
It's quite genius to refer.
Save me a fortune.
So, Salve.
Here we go.
Is this something that you should actually be saying on air?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Salve gets PT lessons from a personal trainer.
Yeah.
And then he does that sort of in the mornings and on certain days.
And then in the evenings, I go with him and then he teaches me
everything he learned from his PT.
So, I haven't got to play for a PT.
There you go, no.
So, it saves me a fortune.
That is quite smart.
That is quite smart.
I'll give you that.
So, yeah, no, I've really been enjoying it.
And I'm getting to a point now where I feel quite confident
using the various bits and bobs.
So, I'll probably be able to go there on my own at some point.
Not that I would, because I quite like going myself.
It's quite funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I did a bit of bike as well and a bit of rowing.
Nice.
So, I've done a bit of everything.
Good on you.
Yeah.
But I'm enjoying it.
It's good.
That's good.
So, I want to stick at it and, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good.
Loose some.
I call it RTT.
What's it called?
Or RTG.
I do, sometimes I do RTG.
Sometimes I do RTT.
Yeah, go on.
Remove the tits.
Okay, yeah.
And remove the car.
Yeah, as for me, you haven't been to the gym.
I looked in the mirror the other day.
I flexed my bicep and I was like, you've changed, man.
You are old now, though.
I am old.
I'm haggard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think if you used to go back to the gym and do heavy exercises,
you'd probably just shit yourself.
I would implode.
I think I would, yeah.
So, I'm going to try and get back to it.
But my injury still hurts.
Does it?
From wakeboarding.
It's still not right.
You know what?
It's probably because you haven't exercised it.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Yeah.
But when I do exercise, I just go 100%.
Why don't you come to the gym with me sometimes?
I'll teach you the ropes.
No, because...
Whoa!
No!
No!
Please, no.
No, to be fair, Taylor can go to the gym without injuring himself,
which you can't.
As for me...
I don't know, Rory.
I didn't nearly fall down the stairs after legs yesterday.
Right, anyway, what I've been up to.
I went to the Lake District with my mum, with my wife and my daughter.
So, yeah, I hired a little house on Lake Windermere,
which was very nice.
We went to, like, Beatrix Potter World,
did a little lake tour and stuff like that.
How was the weather?
It was pissing down on Tuesday.
It was quite nice on the Monday.
So, it was quite pleasant.
We'd been there.
We went there in...
Was it our first ever road trip we drove past there?
In the Range Rover on the 520D?
I think we did go through.
I think we went through the Lake District.
I'm not sure we actually stopped.
I'm sure I remember that.
Yeah.
But, yeah, everyone was like,
oh, how was it?
And I was like, yeah, I feel more tired.
Because when you go on holiday with a child,
you're just parenting in a different location.
You don't have any rest.
So, you need another holiday?
I need a holiday from my holiday.
Well, that's a good job, because we've got one coming up.
Which is...
Vietnam!
We're going to Vietnam, aren't we?
What?
That's savage.
Telling me I wasn't going was bad enough.
No, that's a mistake.
Taylor said he couldn't make it.
No, you said, I can't come because I'm too expensive
and I haven't got a motorbike license.
Yeah, both are true.
That's fair.
It was mainly the motorbike license.
So, you do kind of need one to do a motorbike trip.
You do.
We're doing a motorbike trip in Vietnam.
You do need a motorbike.
You still have to have a license.
I don't think you do, really.
You do.
Anyway, we're going to Vietnam very soon.
That's a shit excuse.
Shut up.
Mike Leo Williams.
Cams have been ordered.
Spicy Cams.
He's going to get it spicy.
Are you not going to get it painted first?
Well, yeah.
It'll all happen at some point.
Should we get it painted and then we'll do it?
Yeah, all right.
We'll do that as well.
But Cams have been ordered.
Okay, that's good.
I have bought a luxury motor vehicle
because we've got another series coming up.
When are we doing that?
In the new year, probably?
Yeah.
Where we're buying classic luxury motor vehicles.
So I've bought mine.
I just need to go to Yorkshire to collect it.
But I'm very excited about it.
I didn't think I would be excited
about a big V8 luxury cruiser from the 70s.
But I am.
I'm so excited.
It's you less compliant.
Tax and MOT exempt.
So it's going to be great.
I'm really looking forward to that.
I bought, like I alluded to earlier,
I bought an overpriced Clio trophy.
Off of Moa.
Yeah, off of Moa.
Yeah, which you bought five grand
and then you upsold me.
I don't need a deal.
Seven grand.
I don't need a good deal.
Which is still a good deal for one of those.
So I'm very happy.
So that needs a bit of work.
You've got to earn a drink.
I've got to feed the wife and kids.
And yeah, like Rory said as well,
all the cars have been moved to new storage unit,
which is very exciting as well.
So I actually need to go to that storage unit today
and pick up Barney.
Because I'm doing a magazine photo shoot on Monday.
Are you going to wash Barney?
We are going to wash Barney.
Are you and the men in the car wash?
No, I'm not going to get that car washed, man.
I'm actually going to bring our pressure washer to the unit
and then I'm going to wash it there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so I'm going to do that.
You know the BMW magazine Verca or Worker?
I've got a couple of copies of that
in the back of my 540.
Oh, nice. Okay.
So yeah, I'm doing that, which is very, very exciting.
Apart from that, I think that's pretty much it.
Just been old.
You are old.
You're really old.
Really old.
Thank you.
Yeah, like really old.
Thank you.
Before we go move on to the news,
because Rory, you've got the news, don't you?
I've got the news.
Before we do that, we have been emailed in a new car dilemma
from a man called Adam Collis, 29 from Northumberland.
And his email reads,
Hello, Alex Rory, Taylor and Rory's mum, Jackie.
Having been a long time viewer of the channels and the podcast,
sometimes with my ear holes, but usually with my eye holes too,
the recent podcast episode has helped me to avoid
a potentially terrible decision.
For a while now, I have wanted to buy a Jaguar F-Pace,
and due to the diesel variant being generally cheaper,
I was predominantly looking at those.
FYI, I currently have a 2009 2.2 Freelander 2HSE,
but it's getting a bit old now, and I'd like a newer car.
However, you have all, thankfully,
warned me off that with your chat about the Ingenium engine.
I particularly want to thank Taylor, whose passionate rant
showed a genuine care for the general consumer,
which has certainly stopped me from making
what would like the turnout to be a terrible financial decision.
Oh, that's Taylor.
It's good.
Yeah, good.
My question, however, I still absolutely love the F-Pace.
It has everything I need from a car in terms of style, luxury,
compared to the Freelander,
good enough performance for a daily driver, etc.
Considering the 2.0-litre diesel is then out of the question,
what are your thoughts on the petrol variant?
Having looked online and in various owners' forums,
people tend to say they're more reliable engines
and are less likely to go bang, which helps, obviously.
Any advice you could share would be great.
Thanks very much.
Many thanks.
Adam Collis, 29 from Northumberland.
So I have heard that the petrol engines in those are actually pretty good.
Good, okay.
The only thing I would suggest is don't follow the dealership service intervals,
because they're all really long now.
They're like 25,000 miles between services.
Which is mental.
Which is mad.
Yeah, absolutely mad.
I was watching that latest...
Have you seen the latest drive-tribe video,
where it's Richard Hammond smashing a GT3 round?
No, no.
It's round Dunford?
Dunford, yeah.
Yeah, you're Dunford.
And then, yeah, he's smashing it around nearly a second.
And you can do all of this and not have to service it
in between intervals of 20,000 miles.
And I was like...
On a performance Porsche?
On a GT3, it's 20,000 miles.
Imagine doing 18,000 miles without changing the oil on a Porsche 911 GT3,
and then taking it on track.
I'd consciously feel terrible, genuinely.
It's not like they're using any more special oil, is it?
Oil is oil.
Oil has advanced, but it's still...
I don't know.
It still just doesn't seem right.
No, it definitely doesn't seem right.
I feel like there's a reason...
In America, their cars obviously drive a lot further distances.
Like a 100,000 mile car in America is not deemed a high-mileage car at all.
Because obviously, they travel so much more than we do.
But they also do have just pull-in, pull-in, pull-out oil change facilities,
where you just literally drive in.
They change the oil, put an oil filter on, drive off.
And they just seem to do it because their cars then last longer.
Why are we not doing that?
I don't know.
It's quite bad.
But yeah, obviously, it is still a high risk because it is a Jaguar F-Pace,
and they are known for being quite unreliable.
They do stuff with electrical issues as well, and stuff like that.
But the Petro-Ingenium engine I've heard is a lot better.
Or is that also an Ingenium engine?
Yes, a Petro-Ingenium, yeah.
But yeah, just as I say, if you are going to get one and you are set on one,
be very careful with the service intervals.
Make sure you service it sooner than required.
I'd say every 10,000 miles and you should be all right.
And just make sure you get one with warranty.
Yeah.
You get one with warranty.
Can't really go wrong.
Good shout.
And remind me and remind everyone what is so bad about the diesel-Ingenium engines.
So I have heard that the main issue is the fact that the DPF sits too far away from the engine.
So it takes ages to heat it up, and it's constantly doing a regen, which dilutes the oil with diesel.
So you get diesel in the oil, which then causes things like turbo failure.
You get the EGRs fail for various other reasons.
They clog up really easily.
And the timing chains are just super, super common.
Like I've seen 30,000-mile timing chain failure.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
I've seen evokes and discovery sports on 30,000, 40,000 miles that need turbos, DPFs,
EGRs and timing chains.
Also, the autos are really bad.
The auto gearboxes are bad and they suffer with diffs.
Fantastic.
So just about all of it, they fail.
It's a shame because people spend 30 or grand on these cars and they drive them for 30, 40,000
miles and they need five plus grand spending on them just to fix them.
What shows is, look at the used car values of them.
They're not worth a lot of money because people are realising this.
One of Ellie's sisters was looking at buying a Range Rover Valar
and it had the 2.0-litre Ingenium engine on.
So there was the trading price for that, 11 grand.
Then there was a 3.0-litre one, exact same mileage, same year.
It's trading price, 21,000.
Wow, double.
Ten grand.
Bloody hell.
Yeah.
Only difference was the engine.
The weird thing is, is the 3.0-litre Ingenium, the 6-cylinder,
although it's similar to the 2.0-litre 4-cylinder, apparently it's a lot more reliable and it
doesn't have as many issues as the 4-cylinder, which is weird.
It's just that 4-cylinder diesel engine is hysterically unreliable.
Really, really bad.
And I don't know of any sort of fixes for it yet.
No one's put an uprated chain kit in one that I know of.
There's not like, you can't really use thicker oil in it and it's just a really,
really bad engine.
But yeah, Ingenium petrol, I'd say, yeah, it's still a risk.
Maybe go for it.
It's a bit better than the diesel.
Just make sure it's got a warranty and make sure you look after it.
Drops are good and very, very good advice.
Right, Rory, the news!
What's been going on?
The news, Rolls-Royce have unveiled a news...
That's what?
Unveiled.
Unveiled.
Unveiled.
No, unveiled.
Unveiled.
Yeah, it's a new type of agicultural.
Agicultural.
It's like a...
Mojita.
It's a bit of like veal meat and then they unveil it.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Um, they've unveiled a new Rolls-Royce Phantom.
Yeah.
And it's a special edition one to mark their centenary.
Is it centenary?
Yeah, centenary, yeah.
Centenary.
What's a centenary?
It's 100 years of phantom.
Oh, 100 years of phantom.
Yeah, or Rolls-Royce.
And they're saying 100 years of phantom.
Oh, okay.
Bloody hell.
Um, and it only cost 2.5 million pounds.
What?
That's enough.
Is that to buy the company?
That's to buy the car.
Oh, just the car.
But so they're basically using this car as a sort of show off their technical ability.
So the seats have got laser etched drawings in them.
They've got a new 3D ink sort of that they can do,
where they can use 24 karat gold leaf.
So what, you get 24 karat gold leaf number plates?
They're 14 number plates.
It's like stitching and stuff like that.
Okay, yeah, wow.
You can have gold leaf on it.
Yeah, nice.
And then yeah, it's just they're doing like a few of a little like,
yeah, a lot of like 3D laser etching, 3D sort of,
it's all just trying to use new technology to then show off what they can do.
And yeah, if you want to buy one, you can't because they're already all sold.
How many were there?
There were 25.
25?
Yeah.
At 2.5 million.
But Rolls-Royce have wanted to specify this.
25 units are already sold globally.
Many of them to very young clients,
which demonstrates the enduring appeal that this car has.
So they just want to show off the fact that it's not all gifters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fine Rolls-Royce.
I do think that Rolls-Royce have lost their image a bit.
I do think like, I see some Rolls-Royce's now,
and I think that is really distasteful.
The old ones are classy AF.
Like, if you put a new Rolls-Royce in front of me now,
and then like a green, what is it like,
the flying Spur with the nice diamond cut wheels on it,
and the ivory lever, I think the Bentley would look classier.
Or if you put that Rolls-Royce next to say, for example,
a 1970 purple Silver Shadow 1.
You'd think, look at this old giffer.
Yeah, would you?
Yeah, the time's gone out with whoever else.
Yeah, shut up.
Yes, yes.
But I get what you mean.
Yeah, the kind of Rolls-Royce mystique and class.
It's gone a bit.
It's gone.
Yeah, it's gone.
It's not fully, but it has gone a bit.
They're so different, all of them,
because you obviously expect them to your own taste.
Some of them come out and they're like, yeah, I like that.
But then you see so many, all that is awful.
Can you imagine the people who are put in these Rollers
together?
They're probably of an older generation.
And then they see the spec sheet and they're like, oh, God.
I think would annoy me the most.
If I was really passionate and worked at Rolls-Royce
and spent all the time creating these cars,
and then it went off the factory floor and straight to Mansourie.
And they covered it in glue.
And I think, yeah.
Or they put like M Performance, like Sonya John, and stuff like that.
Look, I'm allowed.
Gloss black spoilers.
I'm youthful.
I'm far from youthful.
I'm putting a gloss black spoiler on my Phantom when I get one.
Of course you are.
Of course you are.
But yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
And like some of it, I just think, oh, yeah.
It's just not classy.
It's not got that old Gifra.
Well, luckily for you, they're all sold out.
You can't buy one of those anymore.
That's a shame.
I was looking to get one.
Yeah, OK.
Any more news, Roy?
Something on Jaguar Land Rover?
We've got some news on that.
Yeah.
So JLR, they basically now announced, well, it's not announced,
but the experts have now said that this is the costliest cyber
attack in UK history.
With the estimating to cost the UK, well, to cost JLR, 1.9 billion pounds.
Billion.
Billion.
That's 1,900 million.
Yeah.
Wait, wait.
1.9 billion dollars.
Very good.
Thank you.
No pounds.
Yeah, no pounds.
Yeah, but it's, you know, but pounds.
It's costing pounds.
OK, all right.
Yeah.
JLR have refused to comment on this research that has been done
to estimate the cost.
Now, this interests me because didn't we have a cyber attack
on an airport or something a little while ago?
And this is larger.
I'm sure an airport closed down.
Uh, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't a Heathrow that closed down.
I don't know whether it was a cyber attack.
I think that was an elect, a computing issue.
I don't think it was a cyber attack.
So there's a bit more information as well.
Overall, UK production fell by 27% with just over 51,000 cars
made last month.
Data from the SMMT showed.
It is the lowest number of cars made in any September in the UK
since 1952, including the pandemic.
The JLR cyber attack was largely responsible
for the slump in UK car production, the SMMT said,
because other manufacturers reported stable figures for the month.
So yeah, that whole Jaguar Land Rover cyber attack
is the worst thing that we've ever had in the UK,
which is absolutely mental.
It just shows how much we rely on the technology, doesn't it?
Like they literally weren't able to do anything.
It also says 5,000 businesses have been affected by the event
and a full recovery will not occur until January, 2026.
Yeah.
So Tom Lentfield as well included.
Yeah.
He couldn't get any parts, could he?
No, no, they could get like aftermarket parts,
but he was telling us like,
like even top dead centres Jaguar, it needed an ECU.
The only place you could get one is Jaguar Land Rover,
but they couldn't get one from them.
So they had to wait ages to get the part.
Yeah.
So there's been lots of work where Tom can't obviously afford
to have a car sitting outside forever and ever.
And there's some parts where they just know
that they can't get them at the moment.
Like a genium engines.
You wouldn't want one of that.
Yeah, that is really bad.
Okay.
Any more news or is that news?
No, no, that's that's all.
Okay.
The other news.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, there's big news.
Alex is old.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
Right.
Anyway, the game, which car came first?
Yes.
You like that game?
I do.
Who won last time?
Was it you?
It was me, yes.
Oh, was it you?
Was it you?
Okay, well, let's see if you can make it two for two.
And everyone at home, play at home or on the toilet or driving,
except don't get pen and paper when you're driving.
Which car came first?
The egg.
Thank you.
Which car came first?
The egg.
Shut up, man.
Nissan Micra, Honda CRX,
Volkswagen Polo.
I'm going to say Polo.
Okay, you're saying a Polo?
What year do you think that was manufactured, first produced?
1978.
Okay.
Taylor?
I think it was the Polo, 1979.
Okay.
Both of you are correct.
The year was 1975.
The Honda CRX was 1983.
Do I get a bonus point then?
Nissan, no, shut up.
Nissan Micra was 1982.
Okay.
Next trio of cars.
We have got the Fisca Karma, the BMW X1, or the Audi R8.
I'm going to go Fisca Karma.
Yeah.
What year?
2007.
I'm going to say Audi R8, 2007.
Or it might have been 2006, but yeah, 2007.
Okay.
Audi R8.
I can reveal.
It was indeed the Audi R8 2007.
Taylor, you get a bonus point.
I robot.
Why does he get a bonus point?
Because I like him more.
Thank you very much.
2-1.
Well done, Taylor.
When was the Fisca Karma then?
That was 2011, and the BMW X1 was 2009.
Do you know what's talkable?
Isn't it?
Isn't it?
Right, next trio of cars.
We have got the Ferrari Testarossa, the Lamborghini LM002,
or the Bugatti EB110.
I think it was the Testarossa, and I think it was 1988 or 87.
I think it was the Testarossa, but I think it's earlier than that.
I think they were like 84 or 83.
What are you going with?
83.
You could have had double points.
It is the Ferrari Testarossa 1984.
But you both got it.
The Lamborghini LM002 was 1986, and the Bugatti EB110 was 1991.
Okay, we've got two more trios of cars.
The penultimate one is Alfa Romeo 4C, the Alpine A110, or the Porsche Cayman.
Cayman 2006.
Porsche Cayman 2005.
Double points again for Taylor.
It's a Cayman 2005.
The Alpine A110 was 2017, and the 4C was 2013.
What are the points and the scores?
I can't.
I think I'm winning.
No, I don't think you are.
I think Taylor's won ahead because I'm going to take away the double points
because you should have got double points for the first one.
But Taylor's currently in the lead.
Let's say winner takes all for the last trio.
Are we agreed?
Winner takes all.
We have got the Fiat Coupe Alfa Romeo 147, or the BMW Z3.
I'm going to say Z3.
Okay, Z3.
And the year?
97.
I'm going to say Z3.
Yeah.
96.
I can reveal the car that was produced first was indeed the BMW Z3.
But was it 1997, or was it 1996?
It was, of course, 1996.
Well done, Taylor.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Alfa Romeo 147.
Any guess on the year?
I would say 99.
No, I think that was 2003, 2002.
You were closer.
It's actually 2000.
And the Fiat Coupe, when was that first manufactured?
97.
Oh, shit.
Hold on.
I've messed up.
You were both wrong.
It's a Fiat Coupe 1993.
So it's a tie.
I will practice.
I will practice.
Because I keep it very small.
I keep it very small, so you can't read the answers.
Maybe the laptop should stay open,
or maybe you need to bring your glasses in.
I should do, yeah.
How do we know that you weren't incorrect on the others now?
The whole game's null and void.
No.
Who won that?
I won.
Imagine creating a game that you can't even read,
because you've made the text too small.
Because he's so old.
That's like going to bingo and then saying you won,
but then they can't read the numbers.
His eyes are haggard now.
I have been getting headaches recently,
but it's because I'm very tired.
No, it's because you need glasses,
but you refuse to wear them.
Yeah, you strain your eyes.
I do have glasses.
Yeah, but you don't wear them.
I wore them for 10 minutes,
and I was like, no, this isn't me.
Right, can we move on?
Taylor, you won that.
Don't know why, but you won it.
Thanks.
Yeah, thank you.
Right, we've got an email now from Quinn,
a man called Quinn.
This is actually a really interesting one,
and hopefully we can help.
Hello, boys, and Rory's mom, Jackie, spelt mom.
First off, I want to thank you guys
from the bottom of my heart
for everything you do.
The podcast and videos mean a lot to me
and many others.
Now, let me introduce myself.
My name is Quinn.
I am 26 years old.
I live in Ohio, USA.
I have four cars currently,
a 2005 Toyota Camry daily,
a 2005 Saab 92x Aero project,
a 2004 R53 Cooper S project,
and most recently,
a 1992 Dodge Dakota truck project.
Notice any trends?
Project.
Yet I am not a mechanic,
and I don't even have a shed or garage
to use to work on them.
The issue is that none of them
were projects when I got them,
except for the Dodge Dakota.
So let me dive into it,
and hopefully you lads can help me out.
Keep or quit, 1992 Dodge Dakota.
It is a 3.9...
Quit.
Sorry.
What?
Quit.
Yeah, quit.
You spoke too soon.
This is a sentimental story.
You don't do sentimental, though, do you?
So you're going to stick with quit,
which is fine.
So it's a 3.9 V6 rear-wheel drive,
which is exactly the same car I had.
Dodge Dakota.
Terrible, yeah.
It was fantastically terrible.
Yeah.
Recently, I was given my grandfather's old truck.
I have so many childhood memories
involving my grandfather and his truck.
I feel a deep sentimental attachment towards it.
However, the truck currently needs tons of work.
Fuel lines, brake lines, shocks, brakes, tires, paint.
The list is never ending.
And on top of it all,
I was told I have approximately two weeks to move it
from where it is being kept.
All they will have it hauled away from scrap.
I feel very strongly about the truck
and that's where the problem lies.
I am more of a body man slash fabricator than mechanic
and have never delved that deeply into anything
past brake and radiator replacement.
I lack the requisite knowledge and skills
to correctly repair the truck into a running and driving car.
I currently cannot afford to pay to have the work done
and frankly, I doubt it is actually going to be
worth spending money on it.
Yet, I cannot bring myself to let it go.
I feel bad because I am more willing to put the money
into getting my mini up and going,
again because it needs much less work.
And here in the States, a clean R53
is a hard thing to come by these days.
My Saab I love and will miss,
but I am ready to get rid of it.
Even though the Saab is fairly rare,
I have come to terms with it being a money pit
and needing to go.
My grandfather meant a lot to me
and frankly, so does his truck.
He was the person who got me into cars
and even when I saw him soon before he passed,
he always asked about my projects.
He had stories about cars he rebuilt
or helping my dad and his siblings work on theirs.
I know he would have wanted me to take care of his truck,
but he was also sensible enough to know
when something is too big of a project.
I know he would probably say something like,
why are you wasting money fixing my old truck?
You should keep your money.
But I feel letting go of his truck
is somehow letting him down.
So here I sit, getting choked up at the thought
of selling a sentimental shit box.
Please help Quinn.
I would sell the Saab, fix a truck.
Okay, why?
Because it's...
Get the truck fixed.
You mean take it to the camp?
Yeah, but he's obviously sort of said
the way he's written that,
that he sort of made up his mind about selling the Saab
because he's not that attached to it
and he could let it go.
So sell it and then take the money
and put it towards fixing the truck.
And I think he seems so attached to the truck
and the sentimental value that it holds.
If he was to sell it, regret it.
Do you think the sentimental value of the truck
is kind of clouding his judgment
of how far he should go with it?
Or do you think that he's so focused on disappointing
his grandfather that he doesn't want to get rid of it
for that reason,
even though his grandfather would probably say,
get rid of it?
Yeah, I think both.
I mean, look, most of the cars that we fix up,
we don't do it because they're good cars
or whatever we do it because we want to do it
or we want to save a car
or we have an attachment to that certain car.
And I think a lot of the time that overralls
how good the actual car is.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Rory, what would you say?
How the turntables...
Rory doesn't really get as attached to cars as we do.
No.
You don't really form an emotional bond as such with cars.
You just want to give them loads of power and blow them up.
I enjoy building them and I enjoy it.
Yeah, but I'm not at the point where I'll look at a car
and if it's too far gone, I'll go,
I've still got to fix it anyway, sort of thing.
Like, I know when to stop.
Yeah, whereas I see my cars and I go, oh.
Same here.
That's why I can't bear to get rid of them either.
I would also say Quinn as well.
I know you don't have the money to fix a car currently,
but yeah, like Taylor said,
get rid of the Saab, which is what you're doing,
invest that money into fixing or getting the truck fixed,
because I guarantee in five, six, 10 years,
when you have the money to get that Dakota fixed,
you have that spare income to get it fixed.
If you get rid of it, you will never have the chance
to actually get it fixed.
So if you can do it now, or if you can put it in storage,
then you can at least wait until you have a bit more money
and then you can get it fixed.
And maybe in five years, you'll be like, you know what?
It's time to move on.
But I think reading the email as well,
you are so attached to that car
because you loved your grandad so much
that getting rid of it would feel like you're getting rid of a part of your grandfather and the memories.
So sentimental value for me,
I know it might be a bit of a stretch financially at the moment,
but I think you'd kick yourself in a few years
if you wanted to then get it fixed and it had been crushed.
And then when you have fixed it, take it on a road trip.
Yeah, exactly right.
So yeah, we're going to say, unfortunately, Rory, keep it, fix it.
Sell the Saab.
Sell the Saab.
Even sell the Mini.
That has no sentimental value.
No, no, no, no, no.
But equally, equally, I know it's a rare car,
but if you sold that and you invested that money into it,
like I said, in five or 10 years,
when you have a bit more money, you could go out and buy an R50.
The other option is, is there a family member or a good friend
that you know that may be more interested
or have more of a funds to fix it up,
that you could maybe give the truck to them,
knowing that they will do right by the truck?
It sounds probably not.
Otherwise, he may have mentioned it.
I don't know.
Well, you don't know.
Yeah, but sentimental value for me,
and Taylor especially, is worth more than any monetary value.
Oh yeah, I'd go away to attach to silly old clocks.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is why you're so attached to me.
Okay, thank you.
And with that, that is now the podcast on.
Any more to say or do what we've got coming up?
So, coming up, as we said, we've got Vietnam.
Yep.
You've got Vietnam.
We do, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's because we've got by guys at home.
No, you're not.
Where are you going?
No, I'm going to stay at home.
No, you're not.
You're going to New York, aren't you?
No, no, no.
We're self and self.
I'm staying at home.
Oh, okay.
If you decided against me.
No, I see that is.
So, yeah, we're doing Vietnam,
and that's with Tom Lenthal and Gareth,
who surprisingly had bike licenses.
Yeah, they've got bikes.
Yeah, because they're organized.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Organized, yeah.
So, that is going to be one of the closest things I'd say.
Where's your bike license, Rory?
I don't need one because I'm on the back of someone else's bike.
That's dangerous.
That's, no, that's wrong.
What do you mean it's dangerous?
That's dangerous.
You shouldn't be doing that.
What, being on the back of someone's bike?
Yeah, no, that's dangerous.
And then we've got our four by four series,
which involves us purchasing a vehicle.
Yes.
And also.
Oh, yeah, a vehicle.
We have two already.
Yeah.
And then we're going to use large Larry
and another vehicle that we've purchased.
I'm not sure we've actually...
A blue one.
A blue one.
It's blue one, and it's big.
It's not actually that big.
Is it not?
No.
They're not enormous.
Okay.
But they're nice.
Yeah, I know.
But it may not be the most appropriate off-roader,
but we're going to see how it goes.
We're going to take them camping to Scotland,
which is going to be very fun.
We're going to go to probably like minus seven,
minus eight and go camping.
Oh, bleeding heck.
That's cold.
All right, we'll do that.
And then, yeah, we've got the luxuries.
Yeah.
Classic luxury, yeah.
We've decided we're going to take them to Africa.
Yes, we are.
Yes, that is right.
Specifically Morocco, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Just onto the tip and then we'll bring it back.
All right, go on.
But yeah, I think we're trying to really...
I'm hoping it's been noticed,
but we're trying to really focus on actually giving structured content,
trying to relive a lot of that sort of top gear grand tour-esque,
but less plans, less scripted sort of thing.
Just trying to film adventures in cars
that probably shouldn't be going where they're going.
Exactly right.
We've also actually got the dream car series coming out soon.
Oh, yeah, we do.
That's off next week.
Next week, yeah.
Oh, that's exciting.
I've forgotten about it.
It's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, we're just going to...
We're going to look at what we can do.
Like the...
I think we're all really enjoying...
Like the V2 is a bit more of our usual scatterbrained approach
that probably would have been on the main channel.
Where we just buy stuff and we're like,
cool, that's cool.
And then do it up a little bit.
But it just allows us to be a bit more flexible with it.
And, yeah, yeah, really looking forward to what we can do
with the main channel.
Maybe, as you know, Vietnam might be the first of many
of these more expansive trips
where we go abroad and even America.
Yeah, America, we need to go to Japan as well.
Yeah, I've suddenly had the urge to go to Japan now.
I think you will adore Japan.
I really do, yeah.
So, yeah, we've got lots of really cool stuff coming up.
And, yeah, as ever, thank you very much to everyone for the support,
for the likes, the subscriptions.
It really means a lot.
And all of your comments as well have been overwhelmingly positive.
We have got...
Is this the first time that we're announcing it?
Matt Wood.
Yes.
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So we've done a really soft launch of the tickets.
We have 1,000 tickets to sell.
All of the profits are going to the Fountain Center,
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We've also got another food and fuel event in December,
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And we're working on Shedfest for the beginning of May,
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Yeah, we're loving life at the moment.
And, yeah, thank you again for all of your support.
We, you know, love meeting you and chatting to you.
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Thanks very much.
See you soon. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
About this episode
Exploring the costs of fixing Rory's notoriously problematic Mini, the hosts dive into a lively discussion about their automotive projects and personal updates. They debate the financial implications of restoring cars, with Rory revealing he's spent over £5,600 on his Mini, while the potential costs of a full restoration reach £11,670. The episode features humorous banter, insights on car ownership, and a heartfelt dilemma from a listener torn between sentimental attachment to a family truck and practical financial decisions. The hosts offer advice on how to navigate these emotional and financial crossroads.
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