Exploring the costs of fixing Rory's notoriously problematic Mini, the hosts dive into a lively discussion about their automotive projects and personal updates. They debate the financial implications of restoring cars, with Rory revealing he's spent over £5,600 on his Mini, while the potential costs of a full restoration reach £11,670. The episode features humorous banter, insights on car ownership, and a heartfelt dilemma from a listener torn between sentimental attachment to a family truck and practical financial decisions. The hosts offer advice on how to navigate these emotional and financial crossroads.
"...working on his Porsche engine swapped VW T1 split screen..."
The VW T1 split screen is an old Volkswagen van that has a distinctive front design with two windows. It's popular for road trips and camping.
The VW T1 split screen, also known as the Volkswagen Type 2, is a classic van that was produced from the late 1940s to the early 1960s. It's beloved for its unique design and versatility, often used for camping and as a family vehicle.
"...listening in his new to him 1991 Mercedes 500, SEL and..."
The Mercedes 500 SEL is a fancy car that offers a lot of comfort and power. It's part of a series known for being high-end and luxurious.
The Mercedes 500 SEL is a luxury sedan from the S-Class lineup, known for its comfort and performance. It features a powerful V8 engine and high-end amenities, making it a popular choice among luxury car enthusiasts.
"...including the Febbi stuff. Also the labour. I've got the figure here. Do you remember that figure, Rory? Wasn't it like the figure you gave was 4,600 pounds?"
BC Coilovers are special parts that help adjust how a car rides and handles on the road. They can make the car sit lower and improve how it feels when driving.
BC Coilovers are a type of adjustable suspension system that allows for customization of ride height and damping settings. They are popular among car enthusiasts for improving handling and performance.
"...I paid just under that for my M5. That is true. So look, I've got one more question..."
The BMW M5 is a fast and luxurious car that's designed for performance. It's part of the 5 Series lineup and is known for being very powerful and fun to drive.
The BMW M5 is a high-performance version of the BMW 5 Series, known for its powerful engine and sporty handling. It's popular among enthusiasts for its blend of luxury and performance.
Car
Honda That Honda
"... Honda. No, no, no. I think that's game over for that Honda. Okay. So obviously, we're talking about a car t..."
The Honda That's is a small car that's designed to be practical and easy to drive. It has a unique look that makes it stand out.
The Honda That's is a compact car that was primarily sold in Japan, known for its unique design and practicality. It is often discussed for its quirky styling and efficient use of space.
"...'ve had to scrap it. Which one was that? Oh, your Civic. So we're going to take the engine out of it and..."
The Honda Civic is a small car that many people like because it doesn't break down often and is good on gas. It's a great option for getting around town or commuting to work.
The Honda Civic is a compact car known for its reliability, fuel efficiency, and practicality. It has been a popular choice among drivers for decades, often praised for its performance and resale value.
"...I'm not talking about the Honda Civic Type R. I'm talking about the car that I overpaid. Which is?"
The Honda Civic Type R is a fast and sporty version of the regular Honda Civic. It's designed for performance and is loved by car fans for its speed and handling.
The Honda Civic Type R is a high-performance version of the Honda Civic, known for its sporty design and powerful turbocharged engine. It's popular among car enthusiasts for its handling and track capabilities.
"... I overpaid. Which is? All I'm going to say. The Renault Clio trophy. All I'm going to say about the trophy. A..."
The Renault Clio is a small car that's easy to drive and park, especially in cities. The five-door model makes it easier for people to get in and out.
The Renault Clio is a popular small car known for its practicality and efficiency, particularly in urban environments. The five-door version offers added convenience for passengers and cargo.
"...I'm talking about the car that I overpaid. Which is? The Renault Clio Trophy. All I'm going to say about the trophy."
The Renault Clio Trophy is a special version of the Renault Clio that is made for performance. It's known for being fun to drive and has features that make it faster and sportier than regular models.
The Renault Clio Trophy is a limited-edition performance variant of the Clio, known for its sporty features and enhanced driving dynamics. It's often praised for its agility and fun-to-drive nature.
"What, the R56, your turbocharged one? The R56 is awesome. I don't know how long it's going to last, but for now it's awesome."
The Mini R56 is a version of the Mini Cooper that was made between 2006 and 2013. It's popular for being fun to drive and has a turbocharged engine that gives it extra power.
The Mini R56 is a model of the Mini Cooper produced from 2006 to 2013, known for its compact size and sporty handling. It features a turbocharged engine option, which enhances its performance.
"What, the R56, your turbocharged one? The R56 is awesome. I don't know how long it's going to last, but for now it's awesome."
Turbocharged means the engine has a special device called a turbocharger that helps it produce more power. It does this by pushing more air into the engine.
Turbocharged refers to an engine that is equipped with a turbocharger, which forces more air into the combustion chamber, allowing for more fuel to be burned and thus increasing power output.
"And the spoiler, oh, that spoiler that you bought was awful."
A spoiler is a part that goes on the back of a car to help it stay stable when driving fast. It can also make the car look sportier.
A spoiler is an aerodynamic device attached to the rear of a vehicle to reduce lift and improve stability at high speeds. It can also enhance the vehicle's appearance.
Term
R53
"So what we're going to do is you've got the R56, you've got the R53, both Cooper S's. And Alex is buying an F56."
The R53 is an earlier version of the Mini Cooper S, made from 2002 to 2006. It's recognized for its peppy performance and fun driving experience.
The R53 is the internal designation for the first generation of the Mini Cooper S, produced from 2002 to 2006. It is known for its supercharged engine and sporty handling.
Term
R56
"So what we're going to do is you've got the R56, you've got the R53, both Cooper S's. And Alex is buying an F56."
The R56 is a model of the Mini Cooper that was made between 2006 and 2013. It's known for being a fun and stylish small car.
The R56 is the internal designation for the second generation of the Mini Cooper, produced from 2006 to 2013. It features a more refined design and improved performance compared to its predecessor.
"I have got the Clio Trophy. It needs new front suspension, which I'm going to rob off another car."
The Clio Trophy is a sportier version of the Renault Clio, which is a small car. It's built for better performance and handling, making it more fun to drive.
The Renault Clio Trophy is a high-performance variant of the Clio, designed for enthusiasts who seek a sportier driving experience. It features enhanced suspension and tuning for improved handling.
"What about the Nürburgring? We're going to go to Landau. You want to go to the Nürburgring because you still haven't driven your car on."
The Nürburgring is a well-known race track in Germany that's famous for being very challenging. Many car manufacturers test their cars there to see how they perform.
The Nürburgring is a famous racetrack in Germany known for its challenging layout and is often used for testing and racing high-performance cars. It's considered one of the most difficult tracks in the world.
"What about an R53? Oh, yeah, easy. Yeah. I do think you could get one of these with this amount of mods and all that blah, blah, blah."
The Mini R53 is a version of the Mini Cooper made between 2001 and 2006. It's known for being small and fun to drive, and many people like to modify them to make them unique.
The Mini R53 refers to the second generation of the Mini Cooper, produced from 2001 to 2006. Known for its compact size and sporty handling, it's popular among enthusiasts for customization and modifications.
"...Does yours have a little thing that says go-kart mode? No. Does it not? Okay, well, the new one's doing. That's so gimmicky and shit."
'Go-kart mode' is a special setting in some Mini cars that makes them feel more fun and sporty to drive, almost like a small racing car. It helps the car handle better on the road.
'Go-kart mode' refers to a driving mode in some Mini models that enhances the car's handling characteristics, making it feel more responsive and agile, similar to a go-kart. This feature is designed to provide a sportier driving experience.
"Yeah, but you can't. It doesn't count because you've made it unique. No, you still bought a 330i. Shut up and calm down. I love it. He changed this subject when we proved him wrong."
The BMW E46 M3 Touring is a sporty version of the BMW M3 that also has extra space like a wagon. It's fun to drive and has a strong engine.
The BMW E46 M3 Touring is a variant of the M3 that combines the performance of the M3 with the practicality of a station wagon. It's known for its sporty handling and powerful inline-six engine.
The Renault Clio Williams is a special version of the Clio car that is made for better performance. It has a stronger engine and better handling.
The Renault Clio Williams is a limited-edition version of the Clio that was designed for performance, featuring a more powerful engine and sportier suspension.
"I really wanted an F31 or a Golf GTD. I was looking at them obsessing over it."
The Golf GTD is a version of the Volkswagen Golf that is designed to be sporty while still being fuel-efficient. It's a popular choice for those who want a fun car that doesn't use too much fuel.
The Volkswagen Golf GTD is a sporty diesel variant of the popular Golf hatchback. It combines performance with fuel efficiency, making it a popular choice among enthusiasts.
Car
540R
"...my 540R is a little update. I think where I left it off last time, it was broken and not running. I've taken it up to my mate,..."
The Lotus 540R is a sports car that is very light and quick. It's built for people who love to drive and want a car that feels very responsive and fun on the road.
The Lotus 540R is a lightweight sports car known for its exceptional handling and performance. It features a mid-engine layout and is designed for driving enthusiasts who appreciate agility and responsiveness.
"he could maybe look at my 330i. Yeah. So that's actually a moment, it's 320 horsepower..."
The BMW 330i is a car that combines good performance with comfort. It's part of a series of BMW cars that are well-liked for their driving experience.
The BMW 330i is a sporty sedan known for its balance of performance and comfort. It's part of the BMW 3 Series lineup, which is popular among driving enthusiasts.
"it's 320 horsepower, and he said there's no reason with a smaller pulley, bigger injectors and a different map..."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The higher the horsepower, the faster and stronger the car can be.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, commonly used to describe the output of engines. It indicates how much work an engine can perform over time.
Term
M54
"And then we'll put another M54 in it. How long will that take? Two days. Minimum two days."
The M54 is a type of engine made by BMW. It's known for being strong and running well, making it a popular choice in their cars.
The M54 is a straight-six engine produced by BMW, known for its smooth operation and reliability. It was used in various BMW models from the late 1990s to the mid-2000s.
The Range Rover is a fancy SUV that can drive on rough terrain but also feels nice inside. It's popular for people who want both adventure and comfort.
The Range Rover is a luxury SUV known for its off-road capabilities and premium features. It combines rugged performance with a comfortable interior, making it popular among both off-road enthusiasts and luxury car buyers.
"...I've got a couple of copies of that in the back of my 540."
The BMW 540 is a luxury sedan that offers a good balance of performance and comfort. It's part of the 5 Series lineup from BMW, which is known for its quality and driving experience.
The BMW 540 is a part of the BMW 5 Series, known for its luxury and performance. It typically features a powerful engine and a range of advanced technology and comfort features.
"For a while now, I have wanted to buy a Jaguar F-Pace, and due to the diesel variant being generally cheaper, I was predominantly looking at those."
The Jaguar F-Pace is a luxury SUV made by Jaguar. It's designed to be both stylish and practical, offering a comfortable ride and good performance.
The Jaguar F-Pace is a luxury SUV that combines performance with practicality, featuring a stylish design and advanced technology. It is known for its sporty handling and range of powerful engines.
"FYI, I currently have a 2009 2.2 Freelander 2HSE, but it's getting a bit old now, and I'd like a newer car."
The Freelander 2 is a small SUV made by Land Rover, known for being good off-road and comfortable to drive. It was made between 2006 and 2014.
The Freelander 2 is a compact SUV from Land Rover, known for its off-road capabilities and comfortable interior. It was produced from 2006 to 2014 and is often appreciated for its ruggedness and versatility.
"...oking at those. FYI, I currently have a 2009 2.2 Freelander 2HSE, but it's getting a bit old now, and I'd li..."
The Land Rover Freelander is a small SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road adventures. It's also comfortable enough for daily driving.
The Land Rover Freelander is a compact SUV that offers off-road capability along with a comfortable ride for everyday use. It has been popular for its versatility and rugged design.
"However, you have all, thankfully, warned me off that with your chat about the Ingenium engine."
The Ingenium engine is a type of engine made by Jaguar Land Rover. It's built to be efficient and perform well, used in many of their cars.
The Ingenium engine is a family of modular engines developed by Jaguar Land Rover, designed for efficiency and performance. These engines are used across various models and are known for their lightweight construction and advanced technology.
"...Considering the 2.0-litre diesel is then out of the question,..."
A 2.0-litre diesel engine is a type of engine that uses diesel fuel and has a size of 2.0 liters. Diesel engines usually get better fuel economy and have more power for heavy loads.
A 2.0-litre diesel engine refers to an engine with a displacement of 2.0 liters that runs on diesel fuel. Diesel engines are known for their fuel efficiency and torque, making them suitable for various driving conditions.
"...8,000 miles without changing the oil on a Porsche 911 GT3, and then taking it on track."
The Porsche 911 is a fancy sports car that's really fast and fun to drive. It's famous for looking cool and being able to handle well on race tracks.
The Porsche 911 is a legendary sports car that has been in production since the 1960s, known for its distinctive design and exceptional performance. The GT3 variant is particularly celebrated for its track capabilities and high-revving engine.
"Yeah. I've seen evokes and discovery sports on 30,000, 40,000 miles that need turbos, DPFs, ..."
The Land Rover Discovery Sport is a roomy SUV that can go off-road and is great for families. It has lots of space and features for comfort.
The Land Rover Discovery Sport is a versatile SUV that combines off-road capability with family-friendly features. It is designed for both adventure and everyday use, making it a popular choice among active families.
"...yeah, so. Um, they've unveiled a new Rolls-Royce Phantom. Yeah."
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a super luxurious car that costs a lot of money and is made with the finest materials. It's designed to be very comfortable and elegant.
The Rolls-Royce Phantom is a luxury sedan that epitomizes opulence and craftsmanship, often seen as the pinnacle of automotive luxury. It is known for its smooth ride, powerful engine, and bespoke customization options.
"and then like a green, what is it like, the flying Spur with the nice diamond cut wheels on it, and the ..."
The Bentley Flying Spur is a really fancy car that feels super comfortable inside and goes really fast. It's made with the best materials and is very luxurious.
The Bentley Flying Spur is a luxury sedan that blends performance with high-end comfort and craftsmanship. It is known for its powerful engine options and exquisite interior detailing.
"...ls-Royce next to say, for example, a 1970 purple Silver Shadow 1. You'd think, look at this old giffer."
The Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow is an old luxury car that's very fancy and comfortable. It's known for its beautiful design and smooth driving experience.
The Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow is a classic luxury car produced from the 1960s to the 1980s, known for its elegant design and smooth performance. It represents a significant era in Rolls-Royce history and is cherished by collectors.
The Nissan Micra is a tiny car that's great for driving around town. It's easy to park and doesn't use much gas, making it a good choice for city dwellers.
The Nissan Micra is a small hatchback that is appreciated for its compact size and efficiency, making it ideal for city driving. It is often favored for its affordability and ease of parking.
"... We have got the Fisca Karma, the BMW X1, or the Audi R8. I'm going to go Fisca Karma."
The Audi R8 is a super cool sports car that looks amazing and goes really fast. It's packed with high-tech features and is a lot of fun to drive.
The Audi R8 is a high-performance sports car known for its sleek design and powerful engine options, including a V10 variant. It has received acclaim for its handling, technology, and luxury features.
"...of cars. We have got the Ferrari Testarossa, the Lamborghini LM002, or the Bugatti EB110."
The Lamborghini LM 002 is a big, fancy SUV that looks tough and has a super powerful engine. It's very rare and was one of the first luxury SUVs made.
The Lamborghini LM 002 is a rare luxury SUV that was produced in the 1980s and is known for its powerful V12 engine and distinctive design. It is often referred to as the 'Rambo Lambo' due to its rugged appearance and off-road capabilities.
"... The penultimate one is Alfa Romeo 4C, the Alpine A110, or the Porsche Cayman. Cayman 2006."
The Alpine A110 is a small, sporty car that's known for being really light and fun to drive. It has a classic look but is built with modern features.
The Alpine A110 is a lightweight sports car that combines modern technology with classic design elements. It is celebrated for its agility and driving dynamics, making it a favorite among driving enthusiasts.
"...ave got the Fiat Coupe Alfa Romeo 147, or the BMW Z3. I'm going to say Z3."
The BMW Z3 is a small convertible sports car that's fun to drive. It has a stylish look and is known for being enjoyable on the road.
The BMW Z3 is a compact roadster that gained popularity in the 1990s for its sporty design and engaging driving experience. It is often regarded as a classic BMW, combining performance with style.
"I have four cars currently, a 2005 Toyota Camry daily, a 2005 Saab 92x Aero project,"
The Toyota Camry is a popular family car that is known for being dependable and good on gas. It's comfortable to drive and has plenty of space inside.
The Toyota Camry is a midsize sedan renowned for its reliability, comfort, and fuel efficiency. It has been a top seller in its class for many years, making it a common choice for families and commuters.
"a 2005 Toyota Camry daily, a 2005 Saab 92x Aero project, a 2004 R53 Cooper S project,"
The Saab 9-2X is a small car that's fun to drive and has a cool design. It's good for handling different weather conditions because it can drive on all four wheels.
The Saab 9-2X is a compact car that was produced in collaboration with Subaru, known for its unique styling and all-wheel-drive capability. It is often appreciated by enthusiasts for its sporty handling.
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I have never seen you drive home fairly late at night with your arms dead straight, just
good. It's good. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Autotics Podcast home of automotive,
financial mistakes, our life in cars, and your questions answered today. Rory Taylor and I will
fill your ear and your eye holes with discussions about what we've been up to. We'll play a new game
of which car came first. You remember last time we did that? I've got another one coming.
And we'll try and help one of you guys or a couple of you guys with your keep or quit dilemmas.
But before any of that happens, a massive and I mean a huge humongous hello to
Martin Franklin, whose 29th birthday it was on Friday. Happy birthday, Martin. Not happy birthday.
Hello to Postman Andreas in Germany. Kev Haggis, who emailed in. Good morning. Love you all by
Kev. Thanks for the email, Kev. We've got, what was the email address?
Podcasts at autoicscars.com. Show off. We've got Dejan working on his Porsche engine swapped
VW T1 split screen. Connor Walker, who inspired by our stroke is our 53 mini, all the way to
Greece. He's one up there. Fair play to him. That's good guy. There's no way your mini would
make it to Greece, Taylor, would there? And yours? We're about to find out. Are we driving to Greece?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rory, do you want to shake on it? I reckon it would. I think yours would
break down before mine. Can I just get through this bit? Okay, sorry. Thank you. Nigel Hanna
listening in his new to him 1991 Mercedes 500, SEL and... Rory's Mum Jackie. Sorry, I was a bit,
I can't fix it. Yeah, I tricked you there, didn't I? I tricked you. How is Rory's Mum Jackie?
Yeah, she's doing all right. Good. She's been on any holidays?
Yeah, she has actually. She drove to Croatia in her jams. She went to Mallorca, didn't she?
A little winter getaway. Oh, really? That's nice. We should do that. Actually, all we do is go on
all the day, isn't it, at the moment? Yeah, no, that's not true. It's work. It is work. It's a hard
graph. Anyway, before we get into the podcast, what have we all been up to? Rory, what have you
been up to? What have we been up to? Oh, also, the podcast location is different.
Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. So we've been evicted. We've been chucked out.
Top Dead Center needed some more space, and we managed to actually get a storage unit for the
cars. Yeah. So we've removed all those cars that were in the background, because now they're going
to go in long-term storage, because Alex and I drive them, and they'll just sit there and
collect dust for the rest of time, and eventually we're all away and they'll be seen again. I mean,
it's true. Shut up. And they're going to have that unit as their second bay to sort of,
so they can do long-term projects like an R6 that's probably going to take years and years to
fix. Yeah. So yeah, we've moved to this little corner of our unit. I like it. I think it's more
real down with the kids. Although I imagine it's going to be quite cold. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got
our little fire. Where's the fire gone? Well, the fire didn't make it. The fire didn't make it.
Is the fire in the skip? No. It bloody better not be. Bloody better not be. You haven't put that
fire in the skip. Just like my coin loavers, bloody better not be in the skip that you were saying
yesterday we put in the skip. They're not actually in the skip on our side. That was quite funny.
He was getting very well. They've got a lot of sentimental value to me.
150 pounds. Alex, have you cashed all of those DVLA checks that you get back for the time? No.
Speaking of money, Rory, you've been spending lots of it, haven't you? I've spent a lot of it.
You may remember on the V2 channel, Rory has got the world's shittest
mini R56. Well, in all fairness, it was. It was. It was. And then we were in the unit yesterday,
and Chris from Merch was just saying, Rory, how deep do you think you are in? And Rory was like,
well, you know, I've spent this on that, that on this, and he tied tools about 4,600 pounds.
And then Taylor and I were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you remember that? Did you remember
this? And what about that? And he was like, oh, well, goodbye.
So Rory, all in all, we have everything now, the bodywork, the wheels, all the bits you've
put on this. Yeah, including the Febbi stuff. Including the Febbi stuff. Also the labour.
And the BC Coilers. Yeah, Taylor's labour. If we paid an average labour rate.
I've got the figure here. Do you remember that figure, Rory? Wasn't it like the figure you gave
was 4,600 pounds? That's how much I thought I was into it, which of my own money, I'm now 5,600
pounds into it. Which is far too much, to be honest. In reality, if you're a normal punter
with a shit mini and you had all of this work done, how deep would you be in? I think it was like
11 and a half grand. It was 11,670 pounds. 11,670 pounds. To put it into perspective, Rory,
I paid just over that for my M5. To put it into perspective, Rory, I paid just under that for
my M5. That is true. So look, I've got one more question. Yeah. When are you buying a mini?
I'm not buying a mini. You need to buy a mini. No, I have. You need to buy it. You need to buy
an antidote to a mini. No, it's rubbish. You need to buy a mini. What do you mean it's rubbish?
It was your car, man. What? That you sold to me. I overpaid. I thought you meant that rusty old
Honda. No, no, no. I think that's game over for that Honda. Okay. So obviously, we're talking
about a car that Alex says because he bought his first hot hatch and it was so terrible.
We've had to scrap it. Which one was that? Oh, your Civic. So we're going to take the engine
out of it and use the seats, but the body is too far gone. Yeah, that's too far gone. Yeah,
there's literally no point. No. Also, we can get it welded for quite cheap because Jamie
does good deals, doesn't he? Yeah. However, it needs a full re-spray. Even the welding,
it's not worth it. Even just the welding cost on that would be like nearly two grand, I reckon.
Full re-spray would be two or three grand. Yeah. And then what's the point? I could buy a really
nice EP3 with lower mileage. It's done 186,000 miles. Yeah. And also, that's a pre-facelift,
so it's not really worth it. And if it had a nice interior and good mechanicals and good body
wear, I'd say, yeah, do it, but it's just all rubbish. Do you know what, though? That drive home
was so fun. It was fun. I really like an EP3 Civic Type R. I think for me, that's the best kind
of budget I've ever had. I have never seen you drive home fairly late at night with your arms
dead straight, just limmy bashing it. I did do that. I did do that. You weren't even going fast.
You were just revving it and you'd like blip the throttle. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah.
And that's silly exhaust and everything. But yeah, that thing needs to go in the bin. But yeah,
we are going to keep the engine gearbox and the seats as well. Seats are worth quite a lot,
apparently. Lots of people have been saying that I'm kind of quitting with that, so that's quite
good. But yeah, so you've got minis. You've got a nearly £12,000 mini. Yeah, admit it.
Look, if we're going by that process, I think he's still in deeper than me. No,
I'm actually not. No, you are. No. Let's exclude the fact that you could do what you did
where you bought and sold and swapped the interiors and then got all your parts. No,
because that's not the point. No, that is the point. I don't like it when Mummy and Mummy
fight. If you were to buy all of that stuff that is on your mini and then installed it by a mechanic,
because that's the exact same as what we're talking about, I reckon you're in more.
Not yet. But you will be. Because the mini is coming up. I need to get it in and fix it all.
Once that's all done, then yeah, probably. But not at the moment.
Look, the point is, both of you bought the wrong car. I bought the correct car and I'm not talking
about the Honda Civic Type R. I'm talking about the car that I overpaid. Which is?
All I'm going to say. The Renault Clio trophy. All I'm going to say about the trophy.
A far, far better car. It's an amazing car and I really like it and I always, always wanted one.
And I drove it and I really like it. It's a great, it's genuinely a great car.
And I drove my mini and I was like, there's the first thing that I thought when I drove it is
there's no point in me keeping that trophy because I'll never drive it. Because I prefer
driving the mini. That's fair. That's fair. And from your little taster of driving this.
What, the R56, your turbocharged one? The R56 is awesome. I don't know how long it's going to last,
but for now it's awesome. And do you know what? Hats off to you. When you bought that, I thought
that is a terrible mistake because that is rubbish. And I thought that's going to sit in the paddock.
We're never going to do anything with it because it's rubbish. And then you started buying bits,
right? And I was like, nah, this is crap. Like, I didn't really like the headlights.
I thought the wheels looked a bit meh and the rear lamps and all that. And the spoiler,
oh, that spoiler that you bought was awful. Which should be takeoff. And then you got it back from
the body shop and we lowered it and we put wheel spacers on it and it's got the new bumpers on it.
And I thought, this is awesome. And then we drove it and obviously it was slow. But now that you've
chipped, it's actually just in general really good car. And the best thing is it only cost the
equivalent of nearly £12,000. Fantastic value for money. So what we're going to do is you've
got the R56, you've got the R53, both Cooper S's. And Alex is buying an F56. No, I'm not. I have got
the Clio Trophy. It needs new front suspension, which I'm going to rob off another car. And then
we're going to take those three cars on a track and then find out which is A, the fastest and then
B, the most entertaining. Now, question. I know that this is a V2 series. Yeah. What about the
Nurburgring? We're going to go to Landau. You want to go to the Nurburgring because you still
haven't driven your car on. I know. Yeah. And I thought it'd be quite fun. Yeah. We'll think about
it. We'll talk about it, but maybe Landau for now and then maybe we can up the ante afterwards.
Because I'll probably need a turbo, won't I? Well, we should really blow yours up. It's by the
part. Oh, exactly. And then we'll, yeah, we'll casewap it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do that. Anyway,
sorry, Rory, I took away from you. What have you been up to except for spending an exorbitant
amount on a shit mini? I've been spending an exorbitant amount. Yeah. I went to Greece with
Ellie. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I went to Skiathos. Yeah. Which was a bit interesting because we went in,
obviously, mid-October. So everything was a bit shut. The weather was, I think we got the last
of the good bit of weather, but apparently the two weeks beforehand, it was pissing it down.
Oh, really? So much so that most of the restaurants and everything's shut because they were like,
well, we're not going to carry on. We'll close for the season. But yeah, it was really nice
just to get away. And then, what else? I went to Pembroke as well. Yeah. Took Bailey to the beach
for the first time. Bailey, the depressed dog. He's not... Taylor's met Bailey. I stayed at
Rory's the other night. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was. So I stayed at Rory's the other night. I got up in
the morning. I was in the shower and all I could hear was him doing his opera voice. Really?
He walks around going, oh. What, Bailey or the dog? No, him. He's so noisy. But yeah, Bailey
genuinely is great. I really like Bailey. He's got a great temperament. He's not like misbehaved.
He's not a pain in the arse. He's just actually a very nice dog. Did you see him go near any shoes?
So Bailey sleeps in the same room as a basket of shoes. Oh, yeah. And he hasn't touched any of them.
All right. Okay. Give it, give it time. And I've seen it firsthand. Give it time. He's not touched
a single shoe. Give it time. He doesn't touch anything for his toys. Rory, can I go around
your house at some point? You're not putting a shoe. Do you know what? I will say he was round
one. My brother-in-law's house. Why did you put your hand out like that? My brother-in-law?
His name's Corey. And Corey... Hold on. Did you get married? No. Why are you saying brother-in-law?
I was just wondering. I don't know. All of Ellie's family just refer to it as that.
Look, right. They would get funny if I didn't say it. So I'm saying it.
All right. So what, you practically think you are married?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the way they do it. And then, yeah. So Corey decided that he'd
put a toy in Bailey's mouth and then AI it. So then he started sending me pictures of Bailey with
different, different shoes and stuff. And he was like, how much does it worth? I'll send these
dialogues. I've seen those pictures and they're very, very good. Yeah. Very good. Funny, actually.
And then, yeah. Obviously, I've been doing this mini, which I will say, I think has
been worth it in the long run. I agree with that. Yeah. Look, this would have gone to scrap.
Yeah. And I will, I was saying to Taylor, look, I know, obviously, if we were doing this by the
book and everything like that, yeah, we would be 11 and a half, but I'm not on five and a half into
it. Okay. Which I don't think I could get a car with this amount of mods in this condition.
What about an R53? Oh, yeah, easy. Yeah. I do think you could get one of these
with this amount of mods and all that blah, blah, blah. But it's, I've really enjoyed doing it.
Yeah. I think it's been quite fun, like, because this was really shit when you got it.
Yeah. This was scrap yard worthy crap. As much as it pains me to say it's a good looking car now
as well. And I don't like minis. Your question. Yeah, go on. Do you dislike minis because you've
not experienced them or because we have them? Bit of both, really. Really. I think it's mainly
because you have them. So you're just saying it for the print support. It's not because you
actually have a bad experience. Do you know how I know it's absolute shit that he doesn't like
minis? Because he gets in Rihans and he's like, it's a good car. This went all the way to skiing
or whatever when they went to the south of France. And I did 55 MPG, you just sat there,
cruise control. 55 MPG. You don't have radar guided cruise control in this either. It's not
comfortable. Actually, it is with the PCs now. Look, I find minis too gimmicky.
No, admit that you like Rihans Mini. I like Rihans Mini. Does yours have a little thing that
says go-kart mode? No. Does it not? Okay, well, the new one's doing. That's so gimmicky and shit.
You say gimmicky. I would use the word like characterful. They're so cool inside.
But there's so many of them because they're good. They're so common. I just don't like common cars
and I don't like common cars. I was literally about to say that is the most common thing on the road.
It's a 530DX drive. It's common in carbon black. Yes, but it's not a fun car. I don't buy that
because I want it to be fun and characterful. You do, but there's so many of them. I like
rarity. That's what I like in a car and you don't get it with that. I don't care about my daily
driver. That's completely different cat and fish. All right, your second car that you love the most
and MX-5. Yeah, but I've made them popular. Yeah. And you can't say you've made it different
because we've made these different. Well, think about all the other cars I own. They're all kind
of unique. BMW E46. M3 Touring. Unique. Yeah, but you can't. It doesn't count because you've made
it unique. No, you still bought a 330i. Shut up and calm down. I love it. He changed this
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Cleo Williams. You've driven the Cleo Williams. Just for a video purpose. Miles, a high mileage hero.
It's a Skoda. Never driven. It's a cab. What do you mean never driven? We've just done a whole
series, man. Never driven it apart from a video. You've never driven it apart from a video.
I drove it to the Nurburgring. For a video? Yeah. Anything else to report, Rory? Or are you just
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I can't remember what I said last time. When did I get up to? So I bought my mini. Yeah.
I bought that bag. I also bought a new daily. Yeah. Remember, I had the car lemma last time.
You did. Yeah. So I bought a new daily. Yeah. Where did you get that from?
I bought it from my mate, Henry. In Birmingham. No, it's not from Birmingham.
It's from Birmingham. Look, just because he's got a couple of bits on it.
Couple of bits. Birmingham. Couple of bits. So if you had seen that on the road
and someone had pulled up in that and gone, say, nice car, no, you would have gone, would you?
He would have gone, nice car. And then turned around and gone, look,
it's got a couple of bits on it that I will be taking off. I'm going to leave some of them on
because I like it. Well, like the fake carbon fiber wind covers. Yeah, they're coming off.
What about the gloss black spoiler that's been stuck on?
I'm going to keep the spoiler, but change the colour of it. Okay.
But the other bits are same. What colour are you going to change that?
Am I going to do it sat in black or white? Because it should be sat in black from factory,
because it's got the M Performance kit on it. Anyway. Which looks so classy.
Look, right. I don't want classy. I don't care. I'm living my youth.
You're past your youth, then. You are past your youth.
No, I thought to myself, do you know what? I'm a bit bored of driving old man cars,
because I just drive all these old man stuff all the time. I want something that makes me feel
youthful. Okay. So I bought myself a car. So you've got a BMW 3-series saloon.
Yeah, with front tints and carbon mirror caps. How's that working out for you?
It's good. Is it really?
Don't forget the big M Performance down on the side.
Yeah, that's classy. So anyway, last time I said I really wanted an F31 or a Golf GTD.
I was looking at them obsessing over it. We had a little bit about the Golf GTD, didn't we?
Yeah, for a reason. I didn't buy one. So I said to my mate, Henry, for ages, I want a car like yours,
because I know you had a nice one. And I went with him to buy his car when he originally bought
it. Yeah. And I know that it was a good car. And I said, I want one like yours. They're just hard
to find. I couldn't find one anywhere. And he was like, well, why don't you just buy mine?
And I was like, would you sell it? And he was like, yeah. So I did a little deal and I bought it.
Nice. So I've got a 330D F30 with 102K on it. And it's got full history. It's got diamond
cut wheels, all lovely, lovely. And it's white. I wanted a white one. I was looking for a white
one. It's a little bit tarty. It's a little bit chubby. And it suits me down to the ground.
It really does. Yeah. And do you know what? Yeah, go on.
I want to say it's my favorite driving daily I've ever had. I love the way it drives.
It's really good. How long? I'm going to give this one to March next year.
Really? I reckon... I was thinking June. June? No, I'm going March.
Okay. Should we put 20 quid on it? Yeah. Okay, we're shaking.
Okay. Anyway. How many bets do we have at the moment?
There's probably nearly like two grand worth of bets. You need to have a bets list.
We do. You've not got long for the £200 shoe eating.
Oh, that's fine. I'm still confident. Also, my 540R is a little update. I think
where I left it off last time, it was broken and not running. I've taken it up to my mate,
James, up north, very far up north to up north. And he has managed to fix it.
And it's now running. Yes. And it's running a substantial amount of power.
How much is substantial? I'm not going to reveal how much.
Why not? But it's a fair amount more than your E39M5.
What are we talking about? 440 brake? Around maybe that region.
I did point out, Taylor was saying this about which more than Alex is. I was like,
Taylor, you do realise it's more than your other M5 as well? It is. Yeah, it really is.
But yeah, I'm genuinely so excited to get the car back. I'm buzzing. I think about it every
single day. So how much longer do you have to wait until it's back with you?
I was going to get it today, but he would like to spend a bit more time with it,
and I've had some other bits to do. So I'm going to try and get it Friday next week.
You owe him a lot of fuel money. I do, yeah. Yeah, he messaged me saying,
so who's paying for this then? I was like, I'm bloody, I'm not.
He said, Taylor's car. It's your bloody car, man.
I still got me invoiced. Right, okay, of course you will.
And he's even said that he could maybe look at my 330i. Yeah.
So that's actually a moment, it's 320 horsepower, and he said there's no reason
with a smaller pulley, bigger injectors and a different map, that that couldn't get to 400 horsepower.
I kind of want to do that. I want to blow it out.
Yeah, but then you'll just go down the road once and it blows up.
Alex has been really salty about this. I'm not being salty.
Because then it would be quicker than his M320.
It doesn't matter. It will blow up so quickly. It will have no reliability with it.
And then we'll put another M54 in it. How long will that take?
Two days. Minimum two days.
Two days. Minimum two days.
Two days. With you doing it?
I could do it in two days. Could you?
Yeah. Right, let's have a bet.
20 quid? 20 quid?
Oh, that's a weird add. Let's do that again. That was nice.
Jesus Christ. Right, add it to the bets list.
Anything else?
And also, I've been going to the gym.
So, I've seen one picture of you on a treadmill.
How many more times have you been?
I've been three times since then.
Have you?
Yeah. So, I went once last week and sorry.
Yeah, three times in total.
So, I went once last week and I've been twice this week.
What machines have you been using?
So, I tend to do a 30-minute warm-up on the treadmill.
Okay.
So, I'll do half an hour on that.
And I don't...
Do you walk or do you jog?
Do you go jogging?
I don't really like jogging or running
because I know it sounds bad, but I get shin splints
and my knees hurt a bit.
I get quite bad knees.
So, no puns. Thank you very much.
I know what you're thinking.
So, I tend to do...
Fill in the gaps at home.
I tend to do fast walking but on a really steep incline.
So, I put the incline up to 12 or 13 and I do it for half an hour.
Okay, that's good.
So, I do that and then I do some weights usually.
I've been doing weights more than legs.
Okay, nice.
I tend to do the machine that goes up.
Yeah, the shoulders.
Yeah, here.
And then I do the pull-up.
Okay, so back.
Yeah.
And then I do the curler.
Yeah, biceps.
Yeah.
And yesterday, I did legs.
Oh, yeah.
So, I did the way you put your legs on the board
and you push it up, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And then...
The quads, yeah.
I did the lifty, upy one.
Yeah, so, upper leg here.
And then I did the one where you land your front knee
and you lift it up backwards.
That's a burner, that.
Oh, yeah, that gets your ass, doesn't it?
That's a burner, yeah.
That's good.
That's good.
So, yeah, I've been doing all of that.
Are you Jimmy by yourself or you've got someone going with you?
No, I go with my mate, Salve.
Oh, okay.
So, I've worked out this great technique.
Yeah, okay.
So, here we go.
This is going to be good.
Everyone listen to me about this in the morning.
It's quite genius to refer.
Save me a fortune.
So, Salve.
Here we go.
Is this something that you should actually be saying on air?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Salve gets PT lessons from a personal trainer.
Yeah.
And then he does that sort of in the mornings and on certain days.
And then in the evenings, I go with him and then he teaches me
everything he learned from his PT.
So, I haven't got to play for a PT.
There you go, no.
So, it saves me a fortune.
That is quite smart.
That is quite smart.
I'll give you that.
So, yeah, no, I've really been enjoying it.
And I'm getting to a point now where I feel quite confident
using the various bits and bobs.
So, I'll probably be able to go there on my own at some point.
Not that I would, because I quite like going myself.
It's quite funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I did a bit of bike as well and a bit of rowing.
Nice.
So, I've done a bit of everything.
Good on you.
Yeah.
But I'm enjoying it.
It's good.
That's good.
So, I want to stick at it and, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good.
Loose some.
I call it RTT.
What's it called?
Or RTG.
I do, sometimes I do RTG.
Sometimes I do RTT.
Yeah, go on.
Remove the tits.
Okay, yeah.
And remove the car.
Yeah, as for me, you haven't been to the gym.
I looked in the mirror the other day.
I flexed my bicep and I was like, you've changed, man.
You are old now, though.
I am old.
I'm haggard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think if you used to go back to the gym and do heavy exercises,
you'd probably just shit yourself.
I would implode.
I think I would, yeah.
So, I'm going to try and get back to it.
But my injury still hurts.
Does it?
From wakeboarding.
It's still not right.
You know what?
It's probably because you haven't exercised it.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Yeah.
But when I do exercise, I just go 100%.
Why don't you come to the gym with me sometimes?
I'll teach you the ropes.
No, because...
Whoa!
No!
No!
Please, no.
No, to be fair, Taylor can go to the gym without injuring himself,
which you can't.
As for me...
I don't know, Rory.
I didn't nearly fall down the stairs after legs yesterday.
Right, anyway, what I've been up to.
I went to the Lake District with my mum, with my wife and my daughter.
So, yeah, I hired a little house on Lake Windermere,
which was very nice.
We went to, like, Beatrix Potter World,
did a little lake tour and stuff like that.
How was the weather?
It was pissing down on Tuesday.
It was quite nice on the Monday.
So, it was quite pleasant.
We'd been there.
We went there in...
Was it our first ever road trip we drove past there?
In the Range Rover on the 520D?
I think we did go through.
I think we went through the Lake District.
I'm not sure we actually stopped.
I'm sure I remember that.
Yeah.
But, yeah, everyone was like,
oh, how was it?
And I was like, yeah, I feel more tired.
Because when you go on holiday with a child,
you're just parenting in a different location.
You don't have any rest.
So, you need another holiday?
I need a holiday from my holiday.
Well, that's a good job, because we've got one coming up.
Which is...
Vietnam!
We're going to Vietnam, aren't we?
What?
That's savage.
Telling me I wasn't going was bad enough.
No, that's a mistake.
Taylor said he couldn't make it.
No, you said, I can't come because I'm too expensive
and I haven't got a motorbike license.
Yeah, both are true.
That's fair.
It was mainly the motorbike license.
So, you do kind of need one to do a motorbike trip.
You do.
We're doing a motorbike trip in Vietnam.
You do need a motorbike.
You still have to have a license.
I don't think you do, really.
You do.
Anyway, we're going to Vietnam very soon.
That's a shit excuse.
Shut up.
Mike Leo Williams.
Cams have been ordered.
Spicy Cams.
He's going to get it spicy.
Are you not going to get it painted first?
Well, yeah.
It'll all happen at some point.
Should we get it painted and then we'll do it?
Yeah, all right.
We'll do that as well.
But Cams have been ordered.
Okay, that's good.
I have bought a luxury motor vehicle
because we've got another series coming up.
When are we doing that?
In the new year, probably?
Yeah.
Where we're buying classic luxury motor vehicles.
So I've bought mine.
I just need to go to Yorkshire to collect it.
But I'm very excited about it.
I didn't think I would be excited
about a big V8 luxury cruiser from the 70s.
But I am.
I'm so excited.
It's you less compliant.
Tax and MOT exempt.
So it's going to be great.
I'm really looking forward to that.
I bought, like I alluded to earlier,
I bought an overpriced Clio trophy.
Off of Moa.
Yeah, off of Moa.
Yeah, which you bought five grand
and then you upsold me.
I don't need a deal.
Seven grand.
I don't need a good deal.
Which is still a good deal for one of those.
So I'm very happy.
So that needs a bit of work.
You've got to earn a drink.
I've got to feed the wife and kids.
And yeah, like Rory said as well,
all the cars have been moved to new storage unit,
which is very exciting as well.
So I actually need to go to that storage unit today
and pick up Barney.
Because I'm doing a magazine photo shoot on Monday.
Are you going to wash Barney?
We are going to wash Barney.
Are you and the men in the car wash?
No, I'm not going to get that car washed, man.
I'm actually going to bring our pressure washer to the unit
and then I'm going to wash it there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so I'm going to do that.
You know the BMW magazine Verca or Worker?
I've got a couple of copies of that
in the back of my 540.
Oh, nice. Okay.
So yeah, I'm doing that, which is very, very exciting.
Apart from that, I think that's pretty much it.
Just been old.
You are old.
You're really old.
Really old.
Thank you.
Yeah, like really old.
Thank you.
Before we go move on to the news,
because Rory, you've got the news, don't you?
I've got the news.
Before we do that, we have been emailed in a new car dilemma
from a man called Adam Collis, 29 from Northumberland.
And his email reads,
Hello, Alex Rory, Taylor and Rory's mum, Jackie.
Having been a long time viewer of the channels and the podcast,
sometimes with my ear holes, but usually with my eye holes too,
the recent podcast episode has helped me to avoid
a potentially terrible decision.
For a while now, I have wanted to buy a Jaguar F-Pace,
and due to the diesel variant being generally cheaper,
I was predominantly looking at those.
FYI, I currently have a 2009 2.2 Freelander 2HSE,
but it's getting a bit old now, and I'd like a newer car.
However, you have all, thankfully,
warned me off that with your chat about the Ingenium engine.
I particularly want to thank Taylor, whose passionate rant
showed a genuine care for the general consumer,
which has certainly stopped me from making
what would like the turnout to be a terrible financial decision.
Oh, that's Taylor.
It's good.
Yeah, good.
My question, however, I still absolutely love the F-Pace.
It has everything I need from a car in terms of style, luxury,
compared to the Freelander,
good enough performance for a daily driver, etc.
Considering the 2.0-litre diesel is then out of the question,
what are your thoughts on the petrol variant?
Having looked online and in various owners' forums,
people tend to say they're more reliable engines
and are less likely to go bang, which helps, obviously.
Any advice you could share would be great.
Thanks very much.
Many thanks.
Adam Collis, 29 from Northumberland.
So I have heard that the petrol engines in those are actually pretty good.
Good, okay.
The only thing I would suggest is don't follow the dealership service intervals,
because they're all really long now.
They're like 25,000 miles between services.
Which is mental.
Which is mad.
Yeah, absolutely mad.
I was watching that latest...
Have you seen the latest drive-tribe video,
where it's Richard Hammond smashing a GT3 round?
No, no.
It's round Dunford?
Dunford, yeah.
Yeah, you're Dunford.
And then, yeah, he's smashing it around nearly a second.
And you can do all of this and not have to service it
in between intervals of 20,000 miles.
And I was like...
On a performance Porsche?
On a GT3, it's 20,000 miles.
Imagine doing 18,000 miles without changing the oil on a Porsche 911 GT3,
and then taking it on track.
I'd consciously feel terrible, genuinely.
It's not like they're using any more special oil, is it?
Oil is oil.
Oil has advanced, but it's still...
I don't know.
It still just doesn't seem right.
No, it definitely doesn't seem right.
I feel like there's a reason...
In America, their cars obviously drive a lot further distances.
Like a 100,000 mile car in America is not deemed a high-mileage car at all.
Because obviously, they travel so much more than we do.
But they also do have just pull-in, pull-in, pull-out oil change facilities,
where you just literally drive in.
They change the oil, put an oil filter on, drive off.
And they just seem to do it because their cars then last longer.
Why are we not doing that?
I don't know.
It's quite bad.
But yeah, obviously, it is still a high risk because it is a Jaguar F-Pace,
and they are known for being quite unreliable.
They do stuff with electrical issues as well, and stuff like that.
But the Petro-Ingenium engine I've heard is a lot better.
Or is that also an Ingenium engine?
Yes, a Petro-Ingenium, yeah.
But yeah, just as I say, if you are going to get one and you are set on one,
be very careful with the service intervals.
Make sure you service it sooner than required.
I'd say every 10,000 miles and you should be all right.
And just make sure you get one with warranty.
Yeah.
You get one with warranty.
Can't really go wrong.
Good shout.
And remind me and remind everyone what is so bad about the diesel-Ingenium engines.
So I have heard that the main issue is the fact that the DPF sits too far away from the engine.
So it takes ages to heat it up, and it's constantly doing a regen, which dilutes the oil with diesel.
So you get diesel in the oil, which then causes things like turbo failure.
You get the EGRs fail for various other reasons.
They clog up really easily.
And the timing chains are just super, super common.
Like I've seen 30,000-mile timing chain failure.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
I've seen evokes and discovery sports on 30,000, 40,000 miles that need turbos, DPFs,
EGRs and timing chains.
Also, the autos are really bad.
The auto gearboxes are bad and they suffer with diffs.
Fantastic.
So just about all of it, they fail.
It's a shame because people spend 30 or grand on these cars and they drive them for 30, 40,000
miles and they need five plus grand spending on them just to fix them.
What shows is, look at the used car values of them.
They're not worth a lot of money because people are realising this.
One of Ellie's sisters was looking at buying a Range Rover Valar
and it had the 2.0-litre Ingenium engine on.
So there was the trading price for that, 11 grand.
Then there was a 3.0-litre one, exact same mileage, same year.
It's trading price, 21,000.
Wow, double.
Ten grand.
Bloody hell.
Yeah.
Only difference was the engine.
The weird thing is, is the 3.0-litre Ingenium, the 6-cylinder,
although it's similar to the 2.0-litre 4-cylinder, apparently it's a lot more reliable and it
doesn't have as many issues as the 4-cylinder, which is weird.
It's just that 4-cylinder diesel engine is hysterically unreliable.
Really, really bad.
And I don't know of any sort of fixes for it yet.
No one's put an uprated chain kit in one that I know of.
There's not like, you can't really use thicker oil in it and it's just a really,
really bad engine.
But yeah, Ingenium petrol, I'd say, yeah, it's still a risk.
Maybe go for it.
It's a bit better than the diesel.
Just make sure it's got a warranty and make sure you look after it.
Drops are good and very, very good advice.
Right, Rory, the news!
What's been going on?
The news, Rolls-Royce have unveiled a news...
That's what?
Unveiled.
Unveiled.
Unveiled.
No, unveiled.
Unveiled.
Yeah, it's a new type of agicultural.
Agicultural.
It's like a...
Mojita.
It's a bit of like veal meat and then they unveil it.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Um, they've unveiled a new Rolls-Royce Phantom.
Yeah.
And it's a special edition one to mark their centenary.
Is it centenary?
Yeah, centenary, yeah.
Centenary.
What's a centenary?
It's 100 years of phantom.
Oh, 100 years of phantom.
Yeah, or Rolls-Royce.
And they're saying 100 years of phantom.
Oh, okay.
Bloody hell.
Um, and it only cost 2.5 million pounds.
What?
That's enough.
Is that to buy the company?
That's to buy the car.
Oh, just the car.
But so they're basically using this car as a sort of show off their technical ability.
So the seats have got laser etched drawings in them.
They've got a new 3D ink sort of that they can do,
where they can use 24 karat gold leaf.
So what, you get 24 karat gold leaf number plates?
They're 14 number plates.
It's like stitching and stuff like that.
Okay, yeah, wow.
You can have gold leaf on it.
Yeah, nice.
And then yeah, it's just they're doing like a few of a little like,
yeah, a lot of like 3D laser etching, 3D sort of,
it's all just trying to use new technology to then show off what they can do.
And yeah, if you want to buy one, you can't because they're already all sold.
How many were there?
There were 25.
25?
Yeah.
At 2.5 million.
But Rolls-Royce have wanted to specify this.
25 units are already sold globally.
Many of them to very young clients,
which demonstrates the enduring appeal that this car has.
So they just want to show off the fact that it's not all gifters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fine Rolls-Royce.
I do think that Rolls-Royce have lost their image a bit.
I do think like, I see some Rolls-Royce's now,
and I think that is really distasteful.
The old ones are classy AF.
Like, if you put a new Rolls-Royce in front of me now,
and then like a green, what is it like,
the flying Spur with the nice diamond cut wheels on it,
and the ivory lever, I think the Bentley would look classier.
Or if you put that Rolls-Royce next to say, for example,
a 1970 purple Silver Shadow 1.
You'd think, look at this old giffer.
Yeah, would you?
Yeah, the time's gone out with whoever else.
Yeah, shut up.
Yes, yes.
But I get what you mean.
Yeah, the kind of Rolls-Royce mystique and class.
It's gone a bit.
It's gone.
Yeah, it's gone.
It's not fully, but it has gone a bit.
They're so different, all of them,
because you obviously expect them to your own taste.
Some of them come out and they're like, yeah, I like that.
But then you see so many, all that is awful.
Can you imagine the people who are put in these Rollers
together?
They're probably of an older generation.
And then they see the spec sheet and they're like, oh, God.
I think would annoy me the most.
If I was really passionate and worked at Rolls-Royce
and spent all the time creating these cars,
and then it went off the factory floor and straight to Mansourie.
And they covered it in glue.
And I think, yeah.
Or they put like M Performance, like Sonya John, and stuff like that.
Look, I'm allowed.
Gloss black spoilers.
I'm youthful.
I'm far from youthful.
I'm putting a gloss black spoiler on my Phantom when I get one.
Of course you are.
Of course you are.
But yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
And like some of it, I just think, oh, yeah.
It's just not classy.
It's not got that old Gifra.
Well, luckily for you, they're all sold out.
You can't buy one of those anymore.
That's a shame.
I was looking to get one.
Yeah, OK.
Any more news, Roy?
Something on Jaguar Land Rover?
We've got some news on that.
Yeah.
So JLR, they basically now announced, well, it's not announced,
but the experts have now said that this is the costliest cyber
attack in UK history.
With the estimating to cost the UK, well, to cost JLR, 1.9 billion pounds.
Billion.
Billion.
That's 1,900 million.
Yeah.
Wait, wait.
1.9 billion dollars.
Very good.
Thank you.
No pounds.
Yeah, no pounds.
Yeah, but it's, you know, but pounds.
It's costing pounds.
OK, all right.
Yeah.
JLR have refused to comment on this research that has been done
to estimate the cost.
Now, this interests me because didn't we have a cyber attack
on an airport or something a little while ago?
And this is larger.
I'm sure an airport closed down.
Uh, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't a Heathrow that closed down.
I don't know whether it was a cyber attack.
I think that was an elect, a computing issue.
I don't think it was a cyber attack.
So there's a bit more information as well.
Overall, UK production fell by 27% with just over 51,000 cars
made last month.
Data from the SMMT showed.
It is the lowest number of cars made in any September in the UK
since 1952, including the pandemic.
The JLR cyber attack was largely responsible
for the slump in UK car production, the SMMT said,
because other manufacturers reported stable figures for the month.
So yeah, that whole Jaguar Land Rover cyber attack
is the worst thing that we've ever had in the UK,
which is absolutely mental.
It just shows how much we rely on the technology, doesn't it?
Like they literally weren't able to do anything.
It also says 5,000 businesses have been affected by the event
and a full recovery will not occur until January, 2026.
Yeah.
So Tom Lentfield as well included.
Yeah.
He couldn't get any parts, could he?
No, no, they could get like aftermarket parts,
but he was telling us like,
like even top dead centres Jaguar, it needed an ECU.
The only place you could get one is Jaguar Land Rover,
but they couldn't get one from them.
So they had to wait ages to get the part.
Yeah.
So there's been lots of work where Tom can't obviously afford
to have a car sitting outside forever and ever.
And there's some parts where they just know
that they can't get them at the moment.
Like a genium engines.
You wouldn't want one of that.
Yeah, that is really bad.
Okay.
Any more news or is that news?
No, no, that's that's all.
Okay.
The other news.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, there's big news.
Alex is old.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
Right.
Anyway, the game, which car came first?
Yes.
You like that game?
I do.
Who won last time?
Was it you?
It was me, yes.
Oh, was it you?
Was it you?
Okay, well, let's see if you can make it two for two.
And everyone at home, play at home or on the toilet or driving,
except don't get pen and paper when you're driving.
Which car came first?
The egg.
Thank you.
Which car came first?
The egg.
Shut up, man.
Nissan Micra, Honda CRX,
Volkswagen Polo.
I'm going to say Polo.
Okay, you're saying a Polo?
What year do you think that was manufactured, first produced?
1978.
Okay.
Taylor?
I think it was the Polo, 1979.
Okay.
Both of you are correct.
The year was 1975.
The Honda CRX was 1983.
Do I get a bonus point then?
Nissan, no, shut up.
Nissan Micra was 1982.
Okay.
Next trio of cars.
We have got the Fisca Karma, the BMW X1, or the Audi R8.
I'm going to go Fisca Karma.
Yeah.
What year?
2007.
I'm going to say Audi R8, 2007.
Or it might have been 2006, but yeah, 2007.
Okay.
Audi R8.
I can reveal.
It was indeed the Audi R8 2007.
Taylor, you get a bonus point.
I robot.
Why does he get a bonus point?
Because I like him more.
Thank you very much.
2-1.
Well done, Taylor.
When was the Fisca Karma then?
That was 2011, and the BMW X1 was 2009.
Do you know what's talkable?
Isn't it?
Isn't it?
Right, next trio of cars.
We have got the Ferrari Testarossa, the Lamborghini LM002,
or the Bugatti EB110.
I think it was the Testarossa, and I think it was 1988 or 87.
I think it was the Testarossa, but I think it's earlier than that.
I think they were like 84 or 83.
What are you going with?
83.
You could have had double points.
It is the Ferrari Testarossa 1984.
But you both got it.
The Lamborghini LM002 was 1986, and the Bugatti EB110 was 1991.
Okay, we've got two more trios of cars.
The penultimate one is Alfa Romeo 4C, the Alpine A110, or the Porsche Cayman.
Cayman 2006.
Porsche Cayman 2005.
Double points again for Taylor.
It's a Cayman 2005.
The Alpine A110 was 2017, and the 4C was 2013.
What are the points and the scores?
I can't.
I think I'm winning.
No, I don't think you are.
I think Taylor's won ahead because I'm going to take away the double points
because you should have got double points for the first one.
But Taylor's currently in the lead.
Let's say winner takes all for the last trio.
Are we agreed?
Winner takes all.
We have got the Fiat Coupe Alfa Romeo 147, or the BMW Z3.
I'm going to say Z3.
Okay, Z3.
And the year?
97.
I'm going to say Z3.
Yeah.
96.
I can reveal the car that was produced first was indeed the BMW Z3.
But was it 1997, or was it 1996?
It was, of course, 1996.
Well done, Taylor.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Alfa Romeo 147.
Any guess on the year?
I would say 99.
No, I think that was 2003, 2002.
You were closer.
It's actually 2000.
And the Fiat Coupe, when was that first manufactured?
97.
Oh, shit.
Hold on.
I've messed up.
You were both wrong.
It's a Fiat Coupe 1993.
So it's a tie.
I will practice.
I will practice.
Because I keep it very small.
I keep it very small, so you can't read the answers.
Maybe the laptop should stay open,
or maybe you need to bring your glasses in.
I should do, yeah.
How do we know that you weren't incorrect on the others now?
The whole game's null and void.
No.
Who won that?
I won.
Imagine creating a game that you can't even read,
because you've made the text too small.
Because he's so old.
That's like going to bingo and then saying you won,
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