S2 Ep40: AMERICA SPECIAL: Buying A Crew Car, Alex Got Lucky & Tom’s Crazy Idea!
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S2 Ep40: AMERICA SPECIAL: Buying A Crew Car, Alex Got Lucky & Tom’s Crazy Idea!
The AutoAlex Podcast · Jul 19, 2026
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Car
Tesla Model
The Tesla Model Y is an all-electric SUV. Instead of using petrol, it runs on a battery and you charge it. It’s the kind of car people talk about because it’s meant to be practical for normal driving.
Car
Tesla Model 3 performance
The Tesla Model 3 is an electric car. The “performance” version is the quicker, sportier version of that model, usually with stronger acceleration and more responsive driving feel.
Car
Audi A4 B8 Avant 3.2
The Audi A4 is a family car, and “Avant” means it’s the wagon version with extra cargo space. “B8” is the specific generation, and “3.2” tells you it has a 3.2-liter engine.
Term
diff
A “diff” is the part that helps your wheels turn at different speeds, especially when you’re cornering. Without it, the car would fight itself in turns. People often take it out to repair or upgrade the drivetrain.
Car
Freelander 2
The Freelander 2 is a Land Rover SUV. It’s the kind of car people use for road trips and rougher conditions. Here, Charlie is talking about taking out the differential so he can work on the drivetrain.
Car
Land Rover Freelander
The Land Rover Freelander is an SUV made for both normal driving and light off-road use. The “Freelander 2” is one specific generation of that model. People talk about it as a project car because it often gets worked on and maintained by owners.
Car
Range Rover SVR
The Range Rover SVR is the “hot” performance version of the Range Rover. It’s still an SUV, but it’s tuned to be much faster and more aggressive to drive than a normal one. Here, Elliot is talking about getting into the details of working on that car.
Term
rusty
“Rusty” means the car has corrosion, usually on the metal underneath. In this story, they’re saying the car wasn’t as badly corroded as they feared, which affects how much repair work it needs.
Place
Sin City BMW
Sin City BMW is a BMW dealership/service place they’re at. The hosts mention it because they’re talking about how long the car work took while they were there.
Car
BMW E30 chassis
The BMW E30 is a specific older BMW 3 Series. In this story, they’re using the E30 as the foundation for a custom car, not just as a stock vehicle.
Place
Monterey Car Week
Monterey Car Week is a major annual automotive event in California that includes multiple concours and auctions. It’s a common place to see highly customized and enthusiast-built cars like the BMW E30/E21 mashup described here.
Term
flared arches
Flared arches are widened parts around the wheel openings. They make the tires look bigger and the car look more rugged, and they’re often used on custom cars.
Car
Bmw X2
The BMW X2 is BMW’s compact crossover (based on the 2 Series platform) known for its sporty, coupe-like styling. In this segment, it’s referenced as the vehicle used for an earlier off-road/desert outing.
Car
Ford Bronco
The Ford Bronco is a tough SUV made for off-road driving. Here, it’s the car Chris was using when they did a crazy maneuver involving road cones near Las Vegas.
Place
Las Vegas
Las Vegas is a big city in Nevada. They’re saying the incident happened on the drive back into Las Vegas, not somewhere remote.
Term
road cones
Road cones are the orange markers used to guide traffic or warn people about roadwork. In the story, the cones were set out across several lanes and the car drove through them.
Car
Mercedes G-Wagon
The Mercedes G-Wagon is a tough-looking luxury SUV that’s built to handle rough roads. Here they’re talking about it as a “crew car,” basically a car the group would use often.
Car
G-Class Gwagon
The G-Class is a luxury SUV made by Mercedes-Benz. It’s known for being tough and capable off-road, while still being comfortable inside. The podcast mentions it as a likely replacement car if a different outcome had happened.
Car
Bmw 28
The BMW Z3 is a small two-seat convertible (a roadster). It’s made for fun driving with the top down. People talk about it because it’s a classic BMW model from an earlier time.
Term
car vertical report
A CarVertical report is like a background check for a used car. It can show things like whether the mileage looks suspicious and whether the car had damage before.
Term
odometer fraud
Odometer fraud means someone fakes the car’s mileage to make it look like it has fewer miles. The episode’s point is that the report revealed the mileage had been manipulated.
Term
vehicle history report
A vehicle history report is paperwork-style info about a used car’s past. It helps you spot red flags like accident history or mileage that doesn’t add up.
Car
BMW E28
The BMW 5 Series is a mid-size sedan designed to be comfortable for everyday driving. It’s meant for people who want a nicer, more capable car than a basic family sedan. The podcast mentions it as part of general advice about BMWs to consider.
Car
Cadillac Escalade
The Cadillac Escalade is a large, luxury SUV. It’s the kind of vehicle people buy for comfort and space, and here they’re talking about finding one for relatively low money in the US.
Term
MOT's
In the UK, an MOT is a yearly check to make sure a car is safe and meets emissions rules. The discussion suggests that if a country doesn’t require MOT-style checks, cars may be kept running longer.
Term
smog test
A smog test checks how dirty a car’s exhaust is. It’s basically an emissions test to see if the vehicle is polluting too much.
Term
shock absorbers
Shock absorbers are the parts that help your car stop bouncing after you hit a bump. If they’re worn out, the wheels can keep bouncing instead of gripping the road.
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra is a sporty two-door car. It’s made for faster, more exciting driving than a normal daily car. People bring it up because it’s a well-known performance model.
Car
Porsche Cayenne
The Porsche Cayenne is Porsche’s SUV. It’s the kind of vehicle people buy when they want an SUV but still want the driving feel Porsche is known for. Here, they’re talking about a diesel version, which drives a bit differently than a gas engine.
Term
4.2 diesel
“4.2 diesel” means the engine is diesel and has a 4.2-liter size. Diesel engines usually feel stronger at low speeds and are often chosen for easy, torquey driving.
Term
disco four
“Disco four” is a nickname for a Land Rover Discovery from the “fourth” generation. They’re using it to identify the exact SUV they’re talking about.
Term
knackered engine
“Knackered engine” is slang for an engine that’s basically ruined or not working right. It often means you’d be looking at expensive repairs, not just routine maintenance.
Term
boot
A “boot” is the trunk of the car—where you put suitcases and other stuff. Alex is saying he could just throw things in the back.
Term
air suspension
Air suspension is a suspension system that uses air bags instead of metal springs. It can smooth out the ride and sometimes change how high the car sits.
Car
Range Rover Sport
The Range Rover Sport is a luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It’s the kind of car people buy when they want a roomy, comfortable family vehicle that still drives nicely. Here, they’re basically deciding if it has enough space for their needs.
Term
cargo volumes
Cargo volume just means how much stuff you can fit in the trunk or back area. Bigger cargo volume usually means more room for bags, groceries, or gear.
Place
Bristol
Bristol is a city in England. They mention calling a dealership there to line up the car deal quickly.
Term
dealer platform
A dealer platform is a website or system dealers use to find cars and see listings. Here, it’s where they spotted the Range Rover Sport they wanted to show Alex.
Term
autobiography
“Autobiography” is a fancy trim level on certain Land Rover models. It usually means the car has more luxury features and nicer materials than the standard versions.
Term
Wi-Fi on the plane
That just means they bought internet access while flying. It’s mentioned as part of their trip story, not as a car feature.
Term
carbon fiber parts
Carbon fiber parts are pieces made from a lightweight, strong material. People like them because they can reduce weight and look high-end, but they’re usually pricey.
Car
BMW M2 competition
The BMW M2 Competition is BMW’s small, sporty “M” model. It’s the kind of car people buy for handling and driving feel, and here they’re talking about parts made specifically to fit that M2.
Term
M2 parts
“M2 parts” means parts made to fit the BMW M2. The important thing is that upgrades usually have to match the exact car so they fit and work properly.
Term
MSRT
MSRT is a specific Ford Transit van version or makeover package. The point is that it’s not just a plain van—there’s a branded set of upgrades and styling tied to Ford.
Car
Ford Transit Van
The Ford Transit Van is Ford’s popular work van. Here, they’re saying you can buy a regular Transit for around £30k, but this one is a more special, upgraded version.
Term
aftermarket company
An aftermarket company is one that adds upgrades to cars or vans after they’re built. They’re saying this one started that way, but now it’s partnered with Ford.
Term
Ford approved product
“Ford approved” here means Ford treats this van package as an official, supported option. That’s why you can buy it from a Ford dealer instead of only through random third parties.
Car
Range Rover
The Range Rover is a big, luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It’s the kind of vehicle people buy for comfort, and here it’s mentioned as the car the speaker plans to sell.
Term
supercharged
“Supercharged” means the engine has a device that forces extra air into it. More air usually lets the engine make more power.
Term
new turbos
“Turbos” are turbochargers. They help the engine make more power by pushing extra air in, and replacing them usually means something went wrong with the original units.
Place
Nurburgring
The Nürburgring is a very famous race track in Germany. It’s tough enough that car problems—like exhaust leaks—show up fast.
Car
Tesla
They joke that you should buy a Tesla instead. The idea is that an electric car wouldn’t have the same exhaust-manifold problem as a gas car.
Part
exhaust manifold
An exhaust manifold is the part that collects exhaust gases from the engine’s cylinders and routes them toward the turbo (if equipped) and the rest of the exhaust system. A “blow” near it means a leak, which can create a howling/escaping-air sound and reduce exhaust efficiency.
Concept
take the engine back out again
This describes a major repair procedure: removing the engine again to access the exhaust manifold/turbo area. It’s a sign the leak is in a hard-to-reach location, so the labor cost and downtime can be significant.
Term
VARA
VARA is a group that organizes races for older cars. They’re saying they work with VARA (and a related VARA series) as part of their vintage racing and car restoration work.
Car
2002s
They’re talking about the BMW 2002, an older BMW from the 1970s. It’s a popular classic car, and this shop focuses on fixing and restoring those cars.
Concept
automotive repair is just heavily regulated
They mean that fixing cars isn’t just “workshop rules”—there are laws and requirements shops have to follow. That can make running a repair business harder than people expect.
Term
MG car club
A BMW car club is a group of BMW owners who meet up and do events together. They usually have local chapters, like the Las Vegas one mentioned here.
Car
BMW M3
The E36 M3 is a BMW M3 from the 1990s. It’s a popular “driver’s car,” and people often take them to track days to see how well they handle.
Term
ramps
A ramp is a raised platform that lets you get a car up off the ground. It makes it easier to work on the underside of the vehicle.
Term
supercharging
Supercharging is a way to make an engine breathe more air. That usually makes the engine produce more power, assuming the car’s parts and tune are built for it.
Car
BMW M5
The BMW M5 is BMW’s high-performance version of a larger sedan. They mention upgrading it with Brembo brakes, which are aftermarket brakes meant to improve stopping power.
Brand
Brembo
Brembo is a well-known company that makes performance brakes. People upgrade to Brembo when they want better stopping power than the factory brakes provide.
Car
BMW M6 cabrios
BMW’s M6 is the sporty, higher-performance version of BMW’s 6 Series. “Cabrio” means it’s a convertible (top down). They’re saying BMW brought over M6 convertibles early, before they were officially available.
Place
Pebble Beach
Pebble Beach is a very prestigious car event in California where expensive, special cars are shown off. If BMW invited them to bring their restored cars there, it means their work was considered really impressive.
Term
restoration
Here, “restorations” means taking an older car and rebuilding it so it looks (and often drives) like it’s in top condition again. It’s usually a detailed, hands-on project, not just basic servicing.
Car
BMW E23S
The E23 is an old BMW 7 Series from the 1970s. “Euro” usually means the cars were built for Europe, which can mean small differences from the versions sold in the US.
Term
Euro bumpers
“Euro bumpers” are car bumpers made for Europe, not the US. They can look different and may bolt on differently, so people swap them when they’re fixing or changing a car’s setup.
Term
Euro lights
“Euro lights” are headlights/turn signals made to meet European rules. They may look different and can be wired or mounted differently than US lights.
Term
five speeds
“Five speeds” means the car has five forward gears. It’s a way of describing how many gear ratios the transmission offers.
Term
scrap
Here, “scrap” means the car isn’t worth repairing. Instead, it gets taken apart so usable parts can be used elsewhere.
Term
ABS control module
The ABS control module is the car’s anti-lock braking brain. It watches wheel speeds and helps the brakes work without locking the wheels, especially on slippery roads.
Term
aluminum transmissions
This means the gearbox housing is made from aluminum. Sunlight can fade or change the look of the metal surface even if the parts still work.
Term
BMW main dealer
A BMW main dealer is the official BMW dealership service department. It usually costs more per hour than an independent mechanic, even though both can do repairs.
Term
labor
Labor is the time the shop spends working on the car—diagnosing and doing the repairs. The episode is pointing out that taxes can apply differently to labor versus the parts.
Term
tax on parts
“Tax on parts” means the government adds sales tax when the shop buys replacement components for your car. If labor isn’t taxed the same way, the final price can be lower than you’d expect.
Place
Nevada
Nevada is the state they’re talking about for pricing rules. They’re saying taxes on car repairs work differently there depending on whether it’s parts or labor.
Term
independent shops
Independent shops are regular mechanics/garages that aren’t the official brand dealership. They often charge less than dealers and may still be able to get the parts your car needs.
Term
vintage parts
Vintage parts are older replacement parts for older cars. They can be harder to find and sometimes cost more than parts for newer cars.
Term
DME
DME is BMW’s engine computer. If it gets damaged, the car can act like it has no control over the engine—so it may not start or run properly.
Car
BMW E24, 1987 88, M6
This is a BMW 6 Series from the E24 generation, and the M6 is the sporty, higher-performance version. The hosts are talking about a late-1980s example that’s especially desirable to car fans.
Term
World Tuck Bumpers
“World Tuck Bumpers” is a particular bumper design that sits closer to the car’s body. People like it because it makes the BMW look more “right” or more desirable compared to other bumper versions.
Term
half leather, half cloth
That phrase means the seats and trim use a mix of materials: some leather and some cloth. It’s a detail that can help tell whether the interior is original and how it will feel day to day.
Term
24 valve
An engine’s valves control how air and fuel get in and exhaust gets out. “24 valve” means there are 24 of those valve parts working together, which can help the engine run stronger.
Term
lead pigment
“Lead pigment” means paint that contains lead. If you sand or disturb it, tiny particles can get into the ground and become a health risk, so people may test the soil.
Term
core samples
“Core samples” are cylindrical samples taken from the ground to analyze what’s in different soil layers. The speaker describes using them to check contamination depth and extent.
Term
fuel contamination
“Fuel contamination” means gasoline or other fuel products leaking into soil, which can spread and create long-term environmental hazards. The speaker frames it as the reason for deeper sampling and potential cleanup requirements.
LIVE
The more I spoke to Chris about it, the more I realized this is probably quite a big undertaking.
Someone's going to die.
Me and you are going to jump off a building.
Aren't we, Alex?
We're ordering you to clean it up and I'm like, look, we've been here three years.
We've set precedent.
You can't roll over in bed three years into the marriage and tell me I'm ugly and get out.
It doesn't work that way.
Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Auto Alex podcast, home of automotive financial mistakes,
our life in cars, and your questions answered today, Rory.
Yes.
Taylor.
Hello.
Tom Lenthal.
What?
And I are far away from home.
Taylor, where are we?
What are we doing?
We are on an orange sofa, a very, very orange sofa, very, very far away, about 5,000 miles
away in the heat of Las Vegas.
Yes, we are.
It's very exciting, isn't it?
It is very exciting.
It's currently about 40 degrees outside.
And it's only half past nine in the morning.
Yeah.
And it's very, very humid.
It is.
And we are not only here having a bit of a holiday.
No, this is a holiday.
It's a holiday.
It's a holiday.
It's a holiday.
But we are also working on a very special car.
We are.
We are indeed.
Which we'll get into in a minute because before that, Tom, what do we do?
We say hello to everyone.
Okay.
And hello to Emma, Alex Finn and Amelia listening on their long drive home to Kent, Pete Wilson
driving home to Sydney in his 2021 Tesla Model 3 performance, Matthew Hayward driving to
the south of France in his new to him Audi A4 B8 Avant 3.2.
Jason Merritt from Corkin Island delivering stone from a quarry to a solar farm.
Richard listening in Dubrovnik on the, oh sorry, on a Dubrovnik beach.
Vigar Clive listening to the podcast while sailing an offshore vessel along the Norwegian
coast.
That's cool.
That is very cool.
We've got semen on the podcast.
That's great.
Okay.
Charlie dropping the diff on his project Freelander 2.
Elliot from 16 detailing working on a Range Rover SVR.
Billy from Oswistry.
Now that's Australia, Alex.
Australia.
Australia.
That's near where Rory lives.
I think.
I think.
And Ahmed from London currently driving to the highest point in Oman in a Toyota.
What's that?
Fortuna.
Lots of road trips.
Fortuna.
Fortuna.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know.
I think it's not from you.
It's a full salmon.
Yeah, full salmon.
So yeah, like we said, we are in Vegas, baby.
We're back and we're feeling good.
Tom, you arrived a day late, didn't you?
I did.
Yes.
How are you getting on with the jet lag?
Yeah.
I was hurting yesterday.
I was in pain.
You noticed in some little video clips for people watching here.
Yeah.
I may have fallen asleep on a couple of occasions.
Yeah.
On this very orange sofa.
And I think the air con on the plane has given me the snivels a little bit as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But apart from that, I'm tip-top.
You are tip-top and we've been very busy already.
Rory, tell everyone why we're here, what we're up to.
So you may have seen on a V2 video about a year and a half ago.
Yep.
We bought a Mercedes G-Wagen 1979 on a coin flip.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was $1,500 if Alex won and it was $3,000 if Chris from Sin City BMW won.
Yes.
And what happened, Alex?
I'm pleased to say Alex Lawsey.
But there's a story that I'll regale you very soon in which I won.
Are we going to talk about that today?
Yeah, we can talk about that today.
Yeah, okay, cool.
Excellent.
Everything out on the table.
So yeah, as Rory said, we've been working on the Gwagen 2.8.
It didn't actually need as much work doing to it as we initially thought.
No.
Mainly because it's been in America for a long time and it's not rusty.
Well, it is a bit rusty.
Oh, yeah.
But it's time you spent in Europe.
The underside of it wasn't...
It's not great, but it's not rotten.
Yeah.
Considering it had been sat for so long, I thought we were going to be here for days and trying to fix this thing.
Rory, it's an old German automobile.
They don't require much.
I know, but let's be honest, between drinking beer and actually going down to the thing,
I think we were down there for maybe four or five hours.
I think on the first day that we were here.
By the way, we're here at Sin City BMW.
So Chris and Patrick, that you guys may recognise from Carthal videos back in the day about, you know, 810 years ago.
What did you do with them, Alex?
What did I do with them?
Yeah.
Well, with the guys.
Apart from running over a load of ballards.
Oh, the ballards.
So Chris is like Tom, but a cool version.
He's like Tom on steroids.
So if there's a rule, he will break it and if he gets caught, he will fight it and he will win.
I was shocked yesterday when I met him, how much I aligned with him instantly.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he doesn't really care much for rules, does he?
So the first time I actually met those guys was at Monterey Car Week and I saw this BMW E30 chassis and on top of it has been grafted an E21 body.
And it's like Mad Max style.
So, you know, flared arches.
They've actually still got it.
They've still got it.
The BMW X2 and if you go back like eight years on a car throttle episode, you will see that they took me out to the desert in that car.
Blindfolded.
Blindfolded because I wasn't allowed to know where I was going because their friend is like ex-military and he knows a place in the desert where you can go and shoot shit with a machine gun attached to the top of a vehicle.
So I couldn't know where we were.
All the cameras were off.
I was blindfolded, went to the desert and then Chris is there with loads of sangria.
We get a little bit drunk and then we show the car.
So you got pissed and then fired weapons.
Yes.
Yeah.
And there was a point actually where when we were driving blindfolded, I was like, do you know what?
This is probably a bit of a dumb move because I don't know these guys.
All I know is that I'm blindfolded going to the desert.
That's literally all I know.
It's like one of those weird stag do things where you can pay to kidnap the stag in like Budapest or something.
Yeah, it's like I paid for my own death.
But sure enough, I opened my eyes and there was sangria and we had a really good time.
And then on the way back.
So you won that coin flip then?
That wasn't a coin flip.
Well, that was the gamble.
Yeah, the gamble of life.
The gamble paid off.
And yeah, Chris was there obviously.
He had some Ford Bronco also.
So we did all that, drank some sangria and then on the way back into Las Vegas, there were freshly put out road cones.
And we're not talking, you know, like UK spec on a country road where it's, you know, like, I don't know, 50 meters or so.
We're talking probably about two or 300 meters of road cones that had just been laid out because they were going to work on the roads.
And Chris just turned to me and he said, watch this.
And he maneuvered the vehicle into the road cones across four lanes of traffic.
They exploded and cars behind didn't know what was going on.
And I was just laughing.
You know that laugh I did when you hit those road?
When I crashed into a couple of road works with a caravan.
Yes.
Yes.
It was that kind of laugh, but not for 30 meters for 300 meters.
It was just the most bizarre thing I've ever done in my life.
Did you get that on film?
No, I don't think we got that on film.
But Chris is a type of guy.
Like if you got it on film, we'd be like, yeah, show it.
I don't care.
Yeah, he really doesn't care.
So yeah.
He's very funny.
He's very funny.
Yeah, he's very much a loose cannon, but he's got a very, very good heart.
Anyway, I digress.
So yeah, I met those guys there.
And yeah, a few years later, they are now at their fifth or sixth base.
Yeah.
This is a very cool unit.
This is a really cool unit.
How big do you think this is, Tom's place?
Oh, I think he said four acres or something.
Yeah, four acres.
It's a four acres site, but I'm going to say the building itself is going to be a good
15,000 square foot, something like that.
Yeah.
It's enormous.
It is enormous.
Territory.
The guys are great and they've put on, you know, all of this kind of upstairs for us as well
so we can feel comfortable, have our laptops and chill out.
And there's also a beer keg.
Yes.
Which we may have abused.
Yeah, then they got this very intimate with on the first day.
We did.
Yeah, first day being here, we've got quite pissed.
Yeah.
While trying to work on a car, which means that not a lot of work got done.
No.
That meant that Taylor, as per usual, did most of the work.
Yeah.
And got covered in a stale fuel and that's very you guys home.
Yes.
And Rory did say to me that he was going to come and pick me up from the airport.
And then what you actually did was you sent me a video of you pissed.
Yeah.
That did happen.
With not a lot of apology.
No.
No.
But then you just got an Uber, Tom.
I did get.
I did get.
I had an interesting cab ride actually.
Oh yeah, go on.
Well, the bloke just chatted and his chat got more and more racist.
Oh really?
Yeah, talking about people not giving him tips.
And I'm like, you're looking at a mega.
I really think we need to give this guy a tip.
Yeah, he was an interesting character.
And then he completely missed the turn and then made a really late right hook.
And I said, perhaps you should, you know, concentrate on the road a little bit more or less ranting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What you actually said that to him.
No, did I?
I thought he would have learned me more.
Did he still give him a nice tip though?
God damn it.
Damn right I did.
Yeah.
So we've got a nice Airbnb where we're all staying at.
Rory, you've got your, your pregnant girlfriend.
I do.
Yeah.
Tom's got wife Meg as well.
Yeah.
Mrs is here.
Yeah.
And I've got Brenda Melia and wife as well.
And Chris from Merch is here as well.
Yeah, with his girlfriend as well.
So yeah, we're all here, happy big family.
And we've got a pool as well.
Yeah.
So that's a good way to start the day, isn't it?
We've got a pool table as well, but it's a bit dodgy in it.
It added complications.
I've never seen a pool ball have a chunk missing out.
Yeah.
Like how I saw that.
Yeah.
So the cue ball is.
It just adds another element to the game, doesn't it?
Yeah.
You know, it doesn't matter if you're great because it's not going where you want it.
It's random.
So yesterday we pretty much finished up filming with Gertrude.
So she now runs.
We took her out for a little test drive on the Las Vegas roads with Chris driving, which
means that we blew many stop signs, did a bit of off-roading and pissed off a lot of
people, but Gertrude runs.
And yeah, we're very excited.
What are we going to be doing with Gertrude, Rory?
We have set ourselves just a small.
Right.
Well, you sound very nervous when you say that.
You know, the more I spoke to Chris about it, the more I realized this is probably quite
a big undertaking.
Someone's going to die.
Yeah.
So and stupidly Tom said that he would come with us because he's an idiot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I know I always say that this, that, you know, I don't think you'll make it.
You know, and we always kind of do somehow.
Yeah.
But this is, this is a real challenge.
So we're going to try and do 2,500 miles.
Yeah.
From one side of the states to the other side of states and not even just like the most,
the easiest distance.
We're going to go all the way down to Miami, mainly because that's where Freddie is.
So we have somewhere probably to store the car.
I want to meet Will Smith as well.
And then he can sing that song.
I don't think Will lives there.
But yeah, we're going to go do that.
The car has no air con.
No.
It does have a turret though.
It does have a turret.
Yeah.
But we're going to do it in the height of summer as well.
Yeah.
Because it is only getting hotter now.
Yes.
Yeah.
The air con is, I think, the biggest.
We've been places in cars without air con.
This is going to be tough.
Well, I don't think the air con will be the biggest issue.
I think the fact that the car will probably overheat every half an hour is the biggest issue.
Well, if it does break down and then you've got to get out the bloody thing and start fixing
it in this heat.
Yeah.
In Death Valley, imagine that.
Yeah.
We would stop there.
We would actually die.
I think, to be fair, I did have a quick look.
This is one of the hotter places at the moment.
Okay.
So it's only going to get cooler.
Yeah.
So if we head to the Grand Canyon now, which is directly east.
You said it was like mid-20s.
That's like mid-29.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's a bit more pleasant.
It's a bit more pleasant.
Because at the moment, we've been hitting, I think it was 43 Celsius.
Yeah.
With humidity.
We're 25% as well.
So it's unbearable.
It's the humidity as well.
And their workshop.
This lovely office has air con.
Yeah.
But the workshop does not.
No.
And it is hot.
And it's hot.
But to help us with this massive journey, we're going to go out today.
And we're going to buy ourselves a crew car, aren't we?
Yeah.
I was going to get on to that.
We had a budget, didn't we, Alex?
So yeah, we've got a very strict budget of $5,000.
Or do we?
Wow.
The answer to that is no.
Tom, would you like to explain?
Because we like a bit of a bet sometimes.
Well, we like a bet.
Yeah.
And I can't even remember how this, this conversation started quite a while ago, didn't it?
Yeah, it did.
When we spoke about coming here.
And I think it started out as I will have to do some sort of ridiculous bet on the roulette table.
I think it started at me and you putting down like four or 500 dollars.
Yeah.
You were going to go red.
I was going to go black.
Yeah.
And then whoever won one kind of thing, you know, but the casino didn't win.
It was kind of like a personal bet between me.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, that's still going to happen.
Yeah.
And then it changed to, wouldn't it be good if we bet a certain amount of money out of the budget?
At the five grand budget.
At the 5000 pound budget would then mean if we lost, we ended up with a slightly shitter car.
Yeah.
And then if we won, we got something obviously more, you know, more exciting, more usable,
much better crew car.
Yeah.
And this is because this is for our crew car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is meant to be the reliable, good thing that always works.
So a lower budget, you know, we, we, it's bad enough having one car that you've got to fix
without air con, let alone two cars to fix without air con.
So, so there's quite a bit of jeopardy involved in this bet.
Looking back at it now, it was even dumber than I think, think like we knew at the time.
Well, do you want to explain the conversation that we had yesterday morning about the budget
and how much money we were going to be betting?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I am probably the more risk.
Averse.
No, you know, Alex is the more risk adverse.
I'm risk adverse.
Yeah.
So I was, I thought he wouldn't go with this sort of deal that I came up with.
So I said, maybe let's do $1,000.
And so we'll either walk away with $4,000 budget or $6,000 budget.
And he went, no, the stakes need to be bigger.
And actually, you know, he's saying $2,500 to go on red, on a roulette table.
On one spin of the wheel.
Yeah.
Which I don't know.
I think he's maybe hanging around with me too long because that was so on Alex to do that.
And I've never played roulette in my life.
No.
And the odds aren't 50-50 anymore because they've got two greens in there, don't they?
Three greens.
Three greens.
Which means the odds are like 47% or 48% or so.
So anyway, we went to the casino.
Do you remember what casino it was?
It was the Venetian.
The Venetian.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then I spoke to a lady at the cashier thing and I was just like, hi, it's my first time.
I want, can I have 5,000 pounds?
And she was like, what?
Speak up.
I want 5,000 pounds.
And then she didn't accept my card and it was all very stressful.
Anyway, managed to get the $5,000 out.
Walked over to you guys with five grand in my hand, halved it, gave two and a half grand
to my wife and I was like, wish me luck.
And she said, what are you doing?
I was like, oh yeah, you didn't tell me that, did you?
No.
And I said, I'm about to bet two and a half thousand dollars on red.
Which I found quite funny because Meg goes, at least it's not only me that finds out about
things in the last minute.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Yeah.
So we had a little walk around, found the only roulette table that was open at the time.
Yeah, there's only the one open.
What early in the morning was it?
Because we are getting up early.
It was 11 o'clock.
It was 11 a.m.
Was it here?
I think they opened more at 12 or so.
And then we saw a sign that said maximum bid $500 and we were like, oh, this is going
to be boring.
So I spoke to a man and he said, no, if you're betting on either black or red, you can go
up to $20,000.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And I was like, if you're betting on numbers, you can only go to $500.
Yeah.
Because can you imagine if you got like the number off?
I think it is $35 to $1.
Yeah.
Because didn't we work out like if you did put the two and a half grand on a number, you
would have walked away with 80 something thousand dollars.
Yeah.
From two and a half grand.
From two and a half grand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So think of what we could have bought then.
The crew car would have been very good.
Oh, yeah.
There's an ISM6 downstairs.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So at this point, I'm kind of in a bit of like autopilot kind of fight or flight mode
because I'm nervous.
You were genuinely sort of like.
I was bricking it.
You were fishing out of water, was I saying?
Oh, really?
Massively, massively fishing out of water.
And there were like people sitting around the roulette table.
There were three blonde ladies and they just won, hadn't they?
Because they rubbed it into a cheers and applause.
And there were two guys sitting, looking not very happy themselves.
They were a little bit, they'd had a tough morning, hadn't they?
Yeah.
We were waiting for a spot to open up because everything, a spot was taken.
And then one guy puts his last bit on and he then just looks like the most saddest man
I've ever seen in my life puts his head down and his mate next to him just pats him and
just like goes, oh, it's okay.
Sorry, yeah.
Oh, really?
I didn't see any of that.
And then he just walks off and then the other guy's left there and I'm like, Alex,
the slots opened up.
And yeah, this guy's obviously probably just lost a lot.
Yeah.
And then you go on.
Yeah.
So I walk up and I speak to the man who's doing the balls or whatever.
And then he's got like some security man like overseer behind him as well.
And I'm like, I've not done this before.
How does it work?
And I literally put $2,500 on the table and then he gave me the chips.
And then the security man behind him was like, I'm going to need to see ID.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
Okay.
This is all getting very serious.
And he's like looking at ID and apparently wasn't he like on the phone?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or something.
Yeah.
So casinos don't like what you do basically as a player there.
They want people who are going to bet small and slowly lose their money over time.
They don't like people who go in.
Bang.
And I'm pretty sure you even said that you were just doing one bet and then going,
no matter what it was.
So they know they have to win.
Otherwise they lose.
Yeah.
So they really do not like your type of play.
Yeah.
So anyway, I spoke to the man with the ball and the first thing he said to me was that
was like, you're right.
You look really nervous.
And I was like, yeah, I'm pretty nervous.
And I thought like they're going to throw me out for some reason or whatever.
Anyway, I got my chips and I said to the three blonde ladies.
I was like, I've never done this before.
I'm about to put $2,500 on red.
So I'm going to need some like good juju.
And they were like, oh my God.
Yeah.
And they started applauding and everything.
He chucks the ball in and Rory, what happens?
So I was carefully standing back and maybe sneakily filming because he knows.
You're not allowed to do that.
But yeah, the ball starts spinning and I just watch and then I see Tom leaning over it
like going like, where is it going?
And I'm watching it go and it drops in and it was like ching, ching.
And I've always gone, but no, no.
And then it dropped into number seven red.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We literally all erupted.
And yeah, sure enough from two and a half thousand dollars, I made an extra two and a half thousand dollars,
which means that our $5,000 budget is now seven and a half thousand dollars.
So after this, we are going to go buy a crew car for seven and a half thousand dollars.
Yes, we are.
Yes, we are.
But yeah, it went in.
I took my chips and I said, right, that's me done.
And I went straight to the cashier and then I said, I'm cashing out.
And then she made another phone call for about five minutes.
And I was like, have I done something wrong here?
Or have they like seen some on some camera like security cameras that we were secretly filming and we were about to be thrown out?
But no, sure enough, she gave me the 5000 bucks and then we put it together and we've got a very healthy budget now.
Yeah.
And we're very lucky as well because two and a half thousand bucks as it turns out doesn't get you a lot.
No, it doesn't.
Can I just say, could I please everybody out there?
Gamble responsibly.
Yeah.
Don't listen to Alex.
Gamble responsibly.
Take out a lot of money and then just put it on red and see what happens.
Because Alex has this really annoying habit of everything works itself out in the end.
And most people don't have that luck.
Most people will walk away and it will land on black.
Glory, you make your own luck.
Well, the difference is, had you have not won that, we would have just ended up with a slightly shitter car.
So we would have had the Mercedes G-Wagon probably as our crew car.
Yeah.
That would have been a reliable one.
Well, the G-Wagon cost more than what would have been the two and a half thousand bucks.
Yeah, it would have been.
Oh, God, imagine.
Yeah, that would have been the sorry state of affairs.
So yeah, we had a really good day yesterday.
Obviously, we won some money.
We walked around, we went to the Bellagio as well.
We got all the families and stuff like that.
Had to look at the kind of art installation.
I've got to say, it was so funny just seeing Millie running around seeing these animals.
I've never like, we've been with her for a few days now and she looked like she was the happiest she's ever been.
Just running around going, oh, God, that.
Yeah, she was like, lying around.
I was like, yeah, it was great.
Honestly, like nearly two year old is like the perfect age, especially for a dad.
It's just like, I hate to use a word, but it's like magical.
And just seeing her face like, I love it.
Wait till they get to 21.
Speaking of, isn't your son at home alone at the moment?
Yeah, yeah.
Fortunately, my daughter's moved out now, which is good because she's very independent.
Lovely that my son is at home.
Does that make you a bit nervous?
Because every time you go away, something bad happens at your house, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is largely doubtful.
Did he bring a load of people back to your house because he was drunk?
Yeah.
And then we've got cameras, obviously.
And I had to ring him up.
No, no, I had to ring my brother up because he wasn't at the house and he told someone where he'd left a key.
And there was a bunch of guys staying in my house that I've never met in all my life.
And I fear for some of my possessions, obviously.
So I had to ring my brother up who lives a couple of miles down the road.
He went down to the house and threw him all out.
Really?
Yeah, very cool in the morning.
I didn't know James wasn't even there, so he just sent a load of people back.
They were off on holiday the next day and they had to leave at five o'clock in the morning.
So he said to his mates that they could stay around our house and they'd all leave from there, which was fine.
Then he decided to go out on the lash and got really lashed.
And then he turned up back at home like four o'clock in the morning at an hour's kip and then went off to the airport, which is fair enough.
Fair enough for your average 20-year-old.
That's a wounder, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But his mum, when the ring doorbell goes off and you see three geese get out of a motor that you don't recognise,
and then walk into your house, panic sets in.
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, so my brother went round there and sorted them out.
So hopefully he's learned from that. He's going to be a little bit more sensible this week, but it's unlikely.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
As Roy mentioned, after the recording of the podcast, we're actually going to be looking for our crew car.
Yeah.
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We've actually had an email in from Job, again, in the Netherlands.
Job's the name.
Yab.
Wait, is this the same guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got another email from him.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
Who's sorry if I'm at the loop on this one?
It's just a man from the Netherlands called Job.
Is that really in the Netherlands' name?
Yeah.
Dutch.
Dutch name.
Yeah.
I'm going to read it out.
Go for it.
Thank you, Tom.
I've recently been obsessed with the idea of buying a BMW 28, but before that I was looking
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Anyway, speaking of not wasting time, we don't have any time to waste today, do we?
No, we do not.
So what are we doing straight after this?
Well, we're buying a car.
We are buying a car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we're going to be back on the couch and looking for a car for $7,500.
What kind of stuff are we looking for then?
A car.
A car.
Yeah.
But we've seen a cop car, a former cop car.
Yeah, we have.
That's very exciting.
There's also a Cadillac Escalade as well.
You can get Escalade for $7,500.
Yeah.
Is the thing is...
Really?
Yes.
These are very old ones.
Yeah, I know what I'm going to say.
Is it like the L322?
Yeah.
The thing that I find amazing, like so $7,500 is what?
Probably £5,200, £5,400?
Yeah, that's about it.
In the UK, that would get you like a lot of cars.
There's a lot of options.
But in the US, it is a bit...
I think cars are worth quite a bit more.
Like I don't think you could get what we could get for $5,000.
Older cars, especially around here.
Yeah.
They run cars longer and older, just simply because they don't rot out.
And the mileage is a lot higher as well.
Yeah, but they're just literally doing exactly 60, 70 mile an hour down straight roads.
Yeah.
Even all around town here, I mean this is a big town.
It's like 40, 45 mile an hour common thing, isn't it?
No MOTs as well.
Yeah, yeah.
So your cars can just keep going and going and going.
I think the only thing they've got in Las Vegas is a smog test, which is basically exhaust emissions.
But like we saw a...
What was it?
A BMW E60 Tay.
Oh.
And it came around the corner.
The shock absorbers.
Oh my God, there was just no shock absorbers.
Every wheel was just bouncing.
And it was only coming across a junction.
To be fair, you get a lot of that in the UK as well, blown shocks.
No, but this was...
I don't think I've ever seen one this bad.
Like usually you have one where blown shock.
Every single wheel was blown.
Like it was incredible.
You think he'd notice, right?
I have seen a few cars driving about with like no front bumper.
Or like missing rear bumper or missing headlights and stuff.
Yeah.
My general experience of pretty much all of my travels around the world, wherever I go,
where it's hot, you know, and cars don't rust, you see a lot more older cars on the road.
Yeah.
In regular usage, always.
Yeah.
Like cars in the UK, even your old stuff now, which we count as shit boxes,
isn't actually that old.
Like you can get a lot of like, you know, like my R56 Mini.
Shit.
Absolute shit.
But you can get one of those and it's only 2008, 2009 and it costs about 1500 quid.
I don't think you can get stuff like that.
It's not like that over here though.
And if you think of the UK, the average life cycle of a vehicle is about 10 years.
Yeah.
So 100,000 miles, which for here is nothing.
Because I've seen on Facebook marketplace, most cars in our kind of budget, well over
200,000 miles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And old as well.
But that is a, I do think in America, they're actually in some ways take better care of their
cars.
Because like for them, oil changes, you drive in, you basically drive into these dry fruit
oil changes where they literally just do an oil change, blah, blah, blah.
And it's servicing like and doing oil change is actually something that happens quite regularly.
Oh really?
Yeah.
It's over in the UK.
I think it is a bit less.
You say they have like a dry fruit?
A dry fruit oil change.
You literally drive in.
That's quite cool.
There's a guy who stays in a pit below, who has in the pit, they have all oil filters for
all cars.
Wow.
And basically he goes in, he has obviously all the tools to do the sumps or whatever,
drain the sumps, drains it, blah, blah, blah.
They go up, quickly put oil filter on it.
And to do an oil change is like a 10 minute job.
Wow.
Yeah.
It is a 10 minute job Tom.
No.
So why do you charge so much?
No.
This is actually an expose.
Well, no, I'm not going to go there.
No.
Tom.
Well, one I don't think it's fair to say why do we charge so much?
It's why does the industry?
That's true.
That's true.
So, you know, if even if it's just an oil change put in a car on a ramp, you know, it's
like point, it's normally 0.4.
Yeah.
0.5 of an hour to do an oil change and half an hour, which I don't think is out of the
way.
No.
But even if you go to a main dealer, you know, they're charging over £200 an hour plus that.
I don't know what.
Yeah.
Actually, that is going to be interesting.
What is, is a mechanics labor rate cheaper in the US than it is in the UK?
I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that.
Well, I don't, I've never heard of anyone in the UK doing a drive through oil change.
Right.
But I actually think that's a really, really good idea.
Good business venture.
Yeah.
You know, quick fits in your Halfords and stuff like that, because they would be the perfect
companies to do that.
Yeah.
You know, but also a lot of the oils we use, they're really expensive.
You know, some of the stuff we're using there is like 15, 16 pounds a litre plus fat.
That is a lot, yeah.
You know.
Especially modern oils that have to go in cars that start stopping DPS and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And I just think that, and that's why it seems expensive, but I can guarantee you the guys
that are actually doing the job ain't getting that much out of it.
It's going on the other bits and pieces around it.
But yeah.
All right.
Well, we've been in Las Vegas, like I said, for, what, three days now?
I think we're all like mainly acclimatized to the, yeah, time difference, except for
Tom, you're a day behind.
No, I've gone more right now.
I was bad yesterday.
You were bad yesterday.
But what is everyone's kind of experience of Las Vegas for people who haven't been yet?
Are we advising them to come here and live their best life?
Or, you know, what's the general sentiment?
Yeah, I would say come here and experience it.
Like, it's so surreal.
The architecture and the buildings and the casinos and the way they build stuff inside
it is just insane.
Yeah.
I don't think you could ever see all of it.
I think the other thing as well, if we had to go a bit current affairs and boring, I
think, I don't know about you guys, but you always get some of your family.
Like when you say you're going over to the US now, it all turns into this political
sort of thing.
And you've got to remember, when you're over here, most people don't give a shit.
They don't talk about politics.
There's been no mention of Trump or politics or anything.
No, no, no.
My taxi driver did.
Oh yeah, maybe your taxi driver.
But on average, no one really talks about it.
No one cares that much.
At the end of the day, this is still just a destination.
That is a holiday.
Yeah.
I think the thing with this place, so this is the first time I've been here.
We've been up down the street once.
We've been in a couple of the hotels, done a little bit of a gamble, you know, blah,
blah, blah.
But it's just, it's Disneyland.
You know, it's just a thing.
It's an adult Disneyland.
It's one big thing.
On steroids.
Yeah.
And when we were talking to Chris yesterday, the thing that I found interesting was he
said, Vegas is no longer, it's largest income.
It's not gambling anymore.
Yeah, gambling is one tenth of their income.
One tenth of their income.
So it's like, it's the shows.
It's the theaters.
It's the experiences.
The food.
Yeah.
All the other things that this place has to offer and sell.
So if you think that you're coming here just literally to gamble, it's not just about
that.
And I would actually say, like the girls have gone off to a...
Aquarium.
Aquarium today.
Me and you are going to jump off a building tomorrow, all the day after.
Aren't we, Alex?
Yes.
He's being noncommittal.
No, you are.
So, all right.
Explain this building then.
What is it?
It's called the stratosphere, right?
It's called the stratosphere.
Yeah.
It's just outside.
It's at the end of the strip, apparently.
I remember seeing it from our hotel last time we were here.
Yeah.
I think someone just getting peeled off the pavement.
Yeah.
And I looked at that and I was like, thank God I'm not up there because that doesn't
look fun.
Yeah.
So what I'm led to believe, it's not like a bungee jump.
It's like you jump off the edge of this, you know, it's like walking the plank.
It's like pirates, isn't it?
Let's just call it pirates.
It's not fun if you call it pirates.
Yeah, sure.
And as you drop down, you free fall for a certain amount of time and then the rope
sort of like then starts reducing.
So you are attached to a rope.
Oh, yeah.
It's not a big wind tide.
No, no, no.
And then it starts reducing the speed of your fall and then you end up at the ground.
And how long is the fall?
How high up I am?
Oh, I don't actually know.
It looks quite high.
It looks extremely high.
Yeah, yeah.
But it looks good fun.
Okay.
So I did think you'd quite enjoy it as well, Taylor, but...
I don't really do all of that.
But I remember the zip wire thing you felt a bit...
Do you know what it is?
A lot of the time, I actually don't mind doing it.
It's the build up and the thought of doing it.
Yeah.
Like even the day before, I'm having panic attacks.
Oh, really?
It's really bad.
So when you did the zip wire thing, were you sort of like freaking out?
Oh, I was terrified.
Because I wasn't there that day.
He nearly backed out.
You so nearly backed out of that.
I felt ill.
I was like, I had loads of stuff going through it.
I was having a silent panic attack.
But when I was doing it, I loved it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the thought, like even now I've already done it,
if I was to go back there, I would have another panic attack.
Oh, really?
Again, it would freak you out.
So tomorrow, stratosphere?
No, I've got things to do tomorrow.
If it helps, Tay, it's only 1,100 feet in the air.
Oh, is that all?
Yeah.
So that's 300 meters.
350 meters, Alex.
300...
Oh, my God.
How long do you free fall for, does it say?
I'm going to need to make some detail.
Can I also have deaths per capita?
I don't think there is any free fall.
I think you are actually, as soon as you jump out of it,
you are being controlled.
I'll be watching you as I'm cruising
by my Toyota Supra.
So yeah, you never fall more than 45 miles an hour, basically.
45 miles an hour.
That's fast.
But it's just taking the plunge.
It's the plunge.
So I watched a video of some guy doing it.
And it was literally like, he was joking,
he was joking.
He was like, oh, this is great.
And then he got to the edge and his face and colour just left
as you're basically just standing on the edge
and they're going, yeah, just jump off.
And he jumps off.
And once he jumps off, he then goes back to looking
like he's having a great time.
OK.
But yeah, I think because you are,
unlike a bungee where you're sort of,
I don't know, you're held in and you're already there.
A bungee is a free fall.
I know, but this was the way that you'll see what I mean.
The way that you're jumping off is literally like...
I've done bungee jumps and they've been like, I don't know,
300 foot, you know, but this is high.
This is like big ball territory.
Yeah.
So Rory, are you doing it?
No, I'm not an idiot.
Are you going now?
I'm not an idiot.
Plus I have to film it.
Oh, you're going to film it?
I just know that, you know,
you're not going to be in your comfort zone.
I'm not going to stress thinking about it right now.
I'm not going to be in my comfort zone.
It's a challenge.
Me and you both don't like...
But this isn't a challenge that I feel like I need to overcome.
Like my challenge is just beating you on track,
which I do regularly.
I'm happy with that.
I'm happy with that.
No, it's he keeps on saying he's going to come on a motorbike on track.
He's always, oh, I'm too busy this week.
I'm off the brakes.
Oh, sorry, I can't make it.
All right, well, we'll take a view.
We'll take a view.
But tomorrow we are going to go into the Grand Canyon.
Straight off the side of that building.
So when do you plan to do this, Tom?
I was actually thinking of doing it on Sunday on the last day that we're here.
Okay.
Because we're going to the Grand Canyon and we're doing...
I'll take a view.
But I feel as panicky thinking about that as I do going through passport control in America.
Genuinely.
Oh, no, they don't like you here, do they?
No, they don't.
And they pulled me into the room again.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, at least so as well.
Did you have the pencil up the bum?
No, it was a finger.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I insisted on it.
Okay.
I was like pencil doesn't touch sides anymore, officer.
Brilliant.
Yeah.
I got the pencil in Heathrow.
Did you?
Yeah, I got fully patted down pencil all the way.
Yeah.
So, yeah, today's plan by car.
Yes.
And we're going to go and like Facebook Marketplace and all those places.
But around here there's lots of like car dealerships, aren't there?
There are.
And there is...
When we drive past them, they do seem to have a lot of shit.
I don't know how much it's going to cost.
Because although we think it's shit, it's probably like still going to be...
Oh, yeah, it's $10,000.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
It'll be interesting.
Away from Las Vegas.
Tom, what's been going on in your life?
It's been a while since we've had you on the podcast.
Yeah.
How is life?
Like, yeah, life's pretty good.
Actually, I've been doing loads of renovations at the workshop, which some of you have seen.
Yeah.
Me getting on doing that.
That's gone along really nicely.
And we've had some...
Cut a new tech star and work...
Work life is really good, actually.
We're...
Tom, really, really pleased with that.
Can you tell the story or are you all right telling the story of how your new staff member got his role?
You lad, Tucker.
Great.
Give him an interview.
I think me and Adam, who's worked for me and runs the modern type of business, were going,
he goes, do you want to do a trial day?
And we've never really done trial days before, because normally I'd give someone an interview
and I'm sort of like quite happy with their experience and stuff like that.
But I thought, actually, do you know what?
He could literally come in the next day or two days later and he would do a trial day.
So I said, okay, fine, come and show me.
He was convinced that he could just smash this job out of the park.
No problem whatsoever.
So I went, okay.
I had a set of timing chains to do on a car.
Adam's got him in the cut of days later next morning.
He starts working away.
I've been out somewhere.
I can't remember where I was.
I was out doing something.
I've turned up to work at about lunchtime.
And I was going, I think he's going, he goes, yeah.
He goes, that new guy's had a bit of an accident, though.
And I was like, what's happening?
He goes, well, he's cut his hand open.
And I was going, he goes, it's quite bad.
And I was like...
And when people in the workshop are saying that, you know what's going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was going, how bad is it?
He goes, well, we've had to sort of like bleach all the toilet down
because there was this carrot all over the place.
Oh, shit, okay.
And I was going, so what?
Have you sent him down?
Has he gone down to the hospital then?
He goes, no.
He goes, he was so worried about not impressing you
that he's bandaged his hand up
and he's down there doing it.
Holy shit.
I was going, he's kidding.
And I was like, so anyway, I go down there
and I walk over and I sort of like...
He's passed out, isn't he?
He's got his big bandage on his hand
and he's currently leaking out of it all over the place.
It's all red and I'm like, well, this ain't no good, is it?
So I've sort of walked in there
and I started having a chat with him.
And he's going, no, no, no.
I said, look, you need to go to the hospital.
I said, you can come back tomorrow and finish it off.
And he's like, well, no, no, no.
I really want to get done today.
I really want to show you my ability.
And I was like, and then he's like, well,
he goes, I can't come back tomorrow
because I'm doing another trial day somewhere else.
He goes, but I really want to work for you.
He goes, I don't want that other job.
He goes, I just need the money.
Oh, really?
Yeah, because he was skin.
And I was like, wow.
So he'd already sort of like, he's like,
he really, really wants to work for me.
He's just smashed his hand up
and he still stood there doing it
and all the rest of it.
So I said to him, go to the hospital.
We're going, I said, I'm not asking you now.
I'm telling you.
That's your boss.
Yeah.
So I said, come back and see me tomorrow.
I said, blow that other thing out.
I said, you've got the job.
Oh, wow.
I said, you've impressed me so much.
I thought, you can't.
How can you not employ enthusiasm like that?
Yeah.
And he's been with us a few weeks now
and his JLR knowledge is great.
It's this and the other.
You know, and he's, and he's,
and he's fitting into the team really well.
We had a customer come in and he goes,
he goes, I've just met the new guy.
He goes, I really like him.
Cause he's got, he's got charisma.
He's quite funny.
So yeah.
So yeah.
I've never, I've never had someone sort of like
win me over in that manner before
in such a short period of time.
Yeah.
So yeah.
If you want a job, smash your hand up,
cut yourself to pieces,
don't go to hospital,
carry on doing the job
and you're going to kill it every time.
Tom literally wants blood, sweat and tears.
Yeah.
But the thing is he gave blood,
sweat and tears about particularly asking for,
you know, you know, so you can't,
you can't on set.
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On with a podcast.
I've been looking for a new daily driver.
You have.
I have.
And I have news.
Well, this is, this is very new to us.
I think we've, we've reached new heights.
I can't tell you how happy I am
that my influence on you has taken you to this point.
Tom, it's got nothing to do with it.
Actually, no, it has got.
You're welcome.
As you would say.
Thank you.
You're putting my daughter through college.
Yeah.
So, uh, yeah.
Before I get onto the car that I've purchased before that,
I was thinking, you know, I want something.
I want an SUV.
I'm sorry.
I just want an SUV because I'm old and my hip's bad.
And I just want to change.
I've been driving a state BMWs for, I don't know,
15, 20 years now.
So I just want something different.
So, um, I was originally looking at a Porsche Cayenne
with a 4.2 diesel.
And this all started because you borrowed.
Silver Pete.
Silver Pete, the disco four.
The disco four that we bought from you with a knackered engine.
So it is Tom's doing actually.
It is Tom's fault.
You're welcome.
Tom.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
He can't manage it.
I'll get to it.
So, um, you know, on Father's Day, uh, me, Rianne Amelia
and Rianne's parents, we all went away to the Cotswolds
and I borrowed Silver Pete, which is a disco four
and just chopped everything in a boot.
And I was like, oh, well,
I don't even need to think about packing stuff down.
I can literally throw stuff in here.
And the drive was beautiful and air suspension and space.
And Rianne was in the back with Amelia and she was like,
I really like this car.
And I was like, do you know what?
I really like this car as well.
And then after that, like there was a switch
that flicked in my brain and I was like,
I want something this size.
Even though I don't technically need it.
I just want it and I want to change.
You do know what you've bought.
Isn't that a size?
I know.
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's, it's just bigger.
But yeah.
So it's probably actually no bigger than,
than the five series, but it's just different
and it's new to me.
So I was I'm ignoring and in the podcast
that we released a little while ago,
I announced that I wanted a Range Rover Sport.
The more I looked into it, the less appealing it became
because I, you know, had to look at cargo volumes
and stuff like that.
And like I said, the BMW is similar sort of size inside.
So I went off that idea and then I had a guy called Charles
from whom I bought the purple L322 message me and say,
Hey, I've got a Range Rover Sport.
It's just come in.
I want X amount for it.
And I was like, Holy shit, that's cheap.
And then all of a sudden I'm like,
I want a Range Rover Sport again.
And then Roy and I were talking and then we thought,
what about a KN?
Is that more of a me car?
So we made a phone call to a dealership in Bristol
within about 30 seconds.
He was calling me mate.
And I was like, I just, I just,
it just doesn't sit right.
I've got to be honest.
I don't like it when someone that you're going to spend
some money with.
Yeah.
Calls you mate.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just didn't sit right with me.
I don't mind it when people go,
Mr. Linford.
I go, no, please call me Tom.
Exactly.
But you know what was great about this certain dealership
as well?
Because it's a very, very large dealership in Bristol.
The guy starts off and he does this little video walk around,
which he took forever to get.
We didn't call you mate in the video walk around.
Video walk around Tom.
He's there going and he goes, look, let me start this off.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I'm going to be completely honest.
I'm going to tell you everything that's wrong with this.
And I'm like, I already don't believe you.
Yeah.
And he's like, the car's not been prepped.
We haven't had time to look through for it yet.
And he first starts off by going close up to the body and then
he goes, oh, look, these white marks here on the corners.
That's from polishing residue from obviously where the
vehicle's been prepped.
And I was like, you literally just said the car's not been
prepped, but now you're saying there's polishing residue from
where the car's been prepped.
I was like, no, no, it doesn't add up.
Yeah.
And then he goes to the back and he's like, yeah, yeah, it looks
really mean from the back.
And I'm like, no, I don't want to hear that kind of stuff.
It looks mean.
It's a very dry spot.
Yeah, exactly.
Has it got the, you know, what do they call it?
It's got the overfinch pack on it.
No, this is the KN.
It was the KN.
Oh, sorry.
It was purple though.
It was purple.
Yeah, it was beautiful colour.
It looked like a dark purple, not garish.
Not garish.
Haven't you had one of them before though?
No, I had a McCann and I wasn't allowed to have a McCann
because I can't have McCanns apparently.
And it was too small.
You said you didn't like it in the end.
I didn't actually like it.
No, no, no.
And neither did anyone else.
But that's fine.
That's honestly fine.
It wasn't, it wasn't.
Well, that's like, it looks like your audience
had tuned in to you there, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And God, don't they tell me about it.
It's good to share, Alex.
It really is.
Yeah, so, yeah, the KN was like quite a nice option,
but I was just a little bit put off.
So I kind of forgot about that.
And then Rory piped up.
Didn't you?
I did.
So we have access to Carwell's dealer platform.
And there was this Range Rover Sport that popped up there.
And I started showing Alex.
And I was going, Alex, look, this is really nice.
And it's, and it's...
And importantly, it's not black or white.
No, it's gray and it's an autobiography.
So it's got all the equipment.
It's got the roof and everything like that.
And then I waited for the moment where we were on a trip.
Now, we have a rule that whenever we go on a trip,
we buy a car.
And that pretty much has been followed,
I would say, every single time we have gone on a trip.
Most times.
Well, the last two trips, I think we failed.
And we did.
So we would you a win?
Yeah.
And we thought, why not do it in an epic proportion?
So I managed to buy Wi-Fi on the plane.
Oh, did you do this on the plane?
Oh, so is this your excuse to expense Wi-Fi?
No, I actually paid for it personally.
Oh, fantastic.
And BA, your shit airline, it reset halfway through
and then kicked me off.
Oh, really?
Oh, you haven't bought it for the whole flight.
So I need to get a refund for that.
Yeah.
BA.
But yeah, we were up and I was like going to Alex,
what are we bidding?
We put down a bid.
So we're at what, 30,000, 40,000 feet in the air?
Yeah.
And then Alex was like, I don't know.
And the reserve on it was 11, 11, 2.
I think it was.
Bearing in mind on the open market, what's that worth?
I would say that cost.
That's going to be a 20.
17, 18,000.
I was crazy towards 20, I would say.
How many miles it done?
Hundreds.
I think it was just under 100.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's about 17, 18.
Yeah.
But it's got four Pirelli's on it and stuff.
Yeah.
It's not.
It's got all the right bits and pieces.
It's got the belt stone as well.
Yeah.
It's had the, what is it?
Cam cover stone.
Cam cover stone.
Yeah.
And it's ceramic coated as well.
I'll give you a full list of what needs to be done if it hasn't been done.
We'll just do it for you, Alex, obviously.
Oh, thanks.
As a friend.
No, as a customer.
As a friendly customer.
So, yeah, anyway, we're on this flight and then he puts in,
I basically, because you were still like, oh, I don't know.
I don't know.
And I was like, look, why don't we put a bid in of below reserve and we'll just see.
And if you get it, great.
You got it for a really good price.
And you'll be happy with it.
So we put a bid in of 10, 750.
And then at that point, Alex is like, goes and sits back down his seat and me and Taylor
look at each other and go, shall I just put a bid of 11?
You bastard.
I didn't realize you did that.
I can see you, Alex.
I'm an easy conversation.
You did do that.
So anyway, we put a bid of 11 and sure enough, we won it.
But then it got to the point where if you go below reserve, you have to basically wait
for the customer to approve and see whether they're happy.
But if you go for reserve, you can just basically.
It's yours.
It's yours.
So then anyway, we go and it's in this point where it's awaiting for approval.
But at that point, it then goes on a buy it now listing on the dealer platform and any
other dealer can then look at that price and go, oh, I'll just buy it for the reserve.
So I went, Alex, we're 30,000 feet up in the air.
Shall we just buy it?
And you went, go on then.
So then I just hit buy and then sure enough.
What was it?
An extra 250 quid.
So it was 11, 160, I think.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
So it was a tiny bit more and we're just like, oh, we might as well secure it.
Yeah.
Which for that car, that vehicle, that service history is a steal.
Yeah.
Absolute steal.
So we're going to go collect that when we get back.
I've got things to do when I get back.
I want to buy an M2 competition.
Oh, OK.
So this is another discussion to have.
We need to discuss this.
What?
OK.
So we were talking about this over breakfast this morning.
This is uncanny.
Discussing.
Right.
You were talking about this.
Yes, we were.
Yes, because I got offered some parts.
Parts?
Yeah, parts.
He got offered some very nice carbon fiber parts for it.
Four grand's worth of carbon bits for an M2.
Really?
One of my mates.
For an M2 competition.
And I said to Alex, I said, is this of any interest to you?
Because it's for a BMW M2.
I said, it's nothing.
You know, I could give him monkeys.
You can offer them four grand.
Four grand?
I just said, he just said it's 4,000 pounds worth of M2 parts.
He works for a BMW made in my mate.
So anyway, I said to Tom, I don't know anyone with an M2.
So I say thanks, but no thanks.
Because who in their right mind would want to go out and buy an M2?
Me.
He then piped up and said, actually,
Taylor works for a day.
So go on then.
What?
Are you going to buy an M2?
I'd like to, yeah.
When I get back, I'd like to, not necessarily on Tuesday, but at some point.
Well, on Tuesday, we're going to Leeds.
I can't.
I'm busy.
Are you?
I've got family commitments.
Do I need to check Charlie H.R. to see your book holiday?
But we are going to Leeds on Tuesday, I'm afraid.
We're bloody not.
No, we're bloody not.
I've arranged it with the Range Rover man that we collected it.
You'd better go with Juicy, because I need to sit at home and poo and catch up on sleep.
So yeah, I want to buy an M2.
You could come with me on Tuesday to collect my new vehicle.
All right, Tom.
No, he's busy that day.
Is it in Leeds?
No, we haven't worked.
No, it's good.
Tom won't shut up about his new vehicle.
Oh my God.
Tom, hold on a minute.
You're not talking about your new purchases and all that stuff.
You know, I've been very patiently quiet about it.
All right, go on then.
No, I don't talk about it.
What have you bought?
I've gone shy.
You've gone shy?
Tom Lentil does not go shy.
You've bought a van.
And it's purple.
It's not purple.
It's not purple.
It's not purple.
They do do a purple colour.
Yeah.
I thought you went with purple.
No, no, mine's not purple.
Mine's the...
You showed me a purple one.
Oh, maybe I pressed the wrong button.
No, I've gone with a...
It's called Ultramarine Blue.
I think it is the one that I've gone for.
It's purple.
Really nice.
It's not.
It is actually blue.
But it's all tarted up.
It's not just any old van.
So this is an MSRT.
Which is like there.
So it's not a 30 grand van.
No, so this is aftermarket.
You can buy a Ford Transit Van for like 30K.
But this is an aftermarket company.
Well, no, they're not an aftermarket.
They are...
I thought they're...
They started out as an aftermarket company.
But they are now linked with Ford.
They're in partnership with Ford.
So it's kind of a Ford approved product.
And you can buy it at the Ford main dealer.
So tell us why you're so excited about this van, Tom.
Because, okay, my old Transit Van was a Ford custom.
Yeah.
Sport.
So it's got the stripes up it.
I just like a nice van, you know.
So I've had that 16 years.
So it's done like under a K.
And it's time to renew one.
So I looked at the new ones.
And they're, you know, they're all very nice.
But then you can get the MRST, isn't it?
And it's got wing back seats in it.
And it's got like a, you know, like a boy racer in number.
Steering wheel.
And a full body kit as well.
It's got a full body kit.
And blue calipers and grey wheels.
And it's just, I just got over it.
All right, Tom.
I'm willing to take a bet with you right now.
Oh, yeah, God.
I give it under one year until one of your employees crashes it.
What tends to have your money on?
Well, I saw some video I hadn't seen the other day.
I'm not going to name the name.
But someone did crash into Tom's car the other day.
It was a new bloke, wasn't it?
Honestly, that was right.
We're going to sidetrack again quickly, right?
So he's been there, he got from his trial.
So he's been there like two days full time job, boom, boom, boom.
And he reverses a customer's disco floor out of the workshop
straight into my disco floor.
Power move.
Did you not get the impression at this point after two days
that maybe he was a little bit accident prone?
So no, no, he's been good ever since he's been good as gold.
Mind you, I've been away for a couple of weeks.
So I was sat in my office and I looked down and I'm like,
you know, I can believe I've walked downstairs
and I've walked around the back of the customer's car
and I've looked at my car and I've just shut me in
or shut me in rather than I've just said to him,
can you try and be more careful next time, please?
But it's better to do that than absolutely destroy it.
Because I saw the video and I was like,
I'd love to know what Tom said to him at that moment.
Tom says he shook his head.
He didn't just shake his head.
You know, I don't know if you ever seen the Tom way,
but it's like head down and he just does a bit of a...
Yeah, yeah, it's just like...
Disappointed Tom left for you.
So anyway, new boys going up to Adam has gone,
have I got my marching orders or what?
You know, have I blown it?
Yeah, fair play to him.
He stayed late and repaired both cars.
Did he?
Yeah, I bought the bits and he stayed late
and did the repairs in his own time,
which I thought was quite, you know, he offered to do that.
So I thought, well, that's good.
So even when he makes the wrong move,
he makes the right moves to make up for it.
So, you know, he's been good.
But there may be a lot of blood.
There was definitely a lot of blood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
At that point, I thought, well, you know, fair is fair,
you know, cut your hand, shit happens.
Anyway, where were we?
Van.
Yeah, so...
So what's special about the van?
Well, it's going to be crashed in under a year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, it's all...
I mean, when I first get a new van or something like that,
because it is a work vehicle,
this is work, you know, it's commercial vehicle for work.
We use it for towing and stuff like that,
loving engines and about the first year of me,
your ownership, I'm very protective over my new van.
And then it'll go out to the general masses and it'll get,
you know, it'll get...
Crash.
Because I get, like, I have the same as I know we all do.
I run out of attention span for, you know, vehicles.
Yeah.
But the work vehicles, they've obviously got to stay.
We've got to get the time out.
And so the first year will be quite protective,
and then it will just be going out to everyone, you know.
So, but see, I think you'll be the same.
If you're going to go and buy an M2,
how long do you think you'll own it for?
I don't know.
Six months.
It doesn't have to be a forever car.
You own cars for longer now than you did previously.
Yeah, I do.
You're better at...
Yeah, yeah.
I do keep them for quite a while.
Some of them I like to fix them up and move them on,
but an M2, I just fancy something a bit newer for a bit.
I fancy something I can get in, put the air con on,
drive it and actually enjoy it
and not have to restore it every time I go out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what are you selling at the moment then?
Selling my Range Rover.
Yeah, that's online, isn't it?
My Range Rover Sport on Instagram.
I have considered selling my 540i.
See, me and Tay had a conversation about this.
Is that the estate car?
Yeah.
And this is where I did think the M2 makes sense
if he sold the 540i.
Purely because, A, where you live, you don't have a garage,
you just have a public car park in space.
No, but I can take cars home and put them in my unit,
which is only up the road,
which is what I do in my six series.
What are you daily driving at the moment then?
What is your...
So this week...
Have a bit of that, have a bit of that,
with a 330 or whatever.
Yeah, this week I've been dailying my Range Rover,
mainly because I've just been doing bits to it
and using it and fixing it.
But I do have a Jag.
I've got a Jag XS.
Oh, you've got...
Did you just...
Did you just clap?
No, that was my phone.
Oh, I just felt vibration.
Yeah, it was my phone.
Can we have an update on your Range Rover?
Oh, yeah, where is your Range Rover?
Where is your Range Rover, Rory?
Nice one, Tom, yeah.
So you may remember in the last video,
we said that we would never do a video on L322s ever again,
which we're not.
We will not do another one.
Well, we probably will at some point.
No, no, no.
I said that we would never do an L322.
No, that's for you.
No, no, no.
We don't need any more L322s.
Well, you know, we're...
We're free.
Have you?
There's a part X for my Jag.
It's a 4.2.
Hold on, hold on.
Supercharged.
Oh, is it?
Oh, nice.
Talk to me.
We need to...
He needs to unburden himself.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
So my Range Rover, after that video...
So it's had a new engine, right?
It had a new engine.
The engine went in.
New turbos.
Loads of other cars.
Look at your body language as well, Rory.
Do you know what?
That car's killed me.
I had your cars do that.
I know.
It is quite funny watching everyone just go like...
Because my BMW was playing up at the Nurburgring.
Everyone just in the comments just going,
He just needs to not have any cars.
Yeah, exactly.
You just need to buy yourself a Tesla, Rory.
I think I do, genuinely.
But yeah, anyway, engine was in.
It was working fine for about four or five days.
And then suddenly I just started getting this howling noise from the front of the...
And it was like an air escaping noise.
Yeah.
And turns out there was a blow in the exhaust manifold.
Or near either the turbo where the manifold...
And what did you...
What has to happen to repair that?
So the only way to get access to that is to take the engine back out again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
That was good acting.
I didn't know that.
That's such bad luck Rory.
But luckily, Tom is a bit of an idiot.
Oh yeah, big time.
Big time.
Because now he's going to insult me after I've helped him out.
Well, me and Tom made an agreement.
If I did all of Tom's IT and websites, that he's going to do...
Which realistically you told me would take you a couple of hours?
No, not a website.
The IT stuff is a couple of hours.
Yeah.
But that's just not...
As Tom says, it doesn't matter about the actual how long it takes.
It's delivering on the product.
Exactly.
But yeah, I agreed that Tom would help me fix the issue.
And this was before Tom knew the engine had to come out.
So Tom agreed to it.
And then now...
So we've had the engine and gearbox out.
No, actually we don't have the gearbox in.
Then he's ripped all of the exhaust manifolds off, all of the turbos off.
And then put the whole lot back together with every single gasket replaced.
Every single nut and bolt.
Because they just all go...
You didn't have new gaskets and stuff.
He did, but what happens is because the exhaust bolts get so hot,
the nut goes tight, but it's actually tight on the thread,
but not tight as in clamping tight.
So it's always good to replace those.
So anyway, so we've just replaced the whole lot now.
So now it's leak free basically.
And then what else have we done?
And there was a few other things that we found.
There was a cool chair, which...
There was an AC pipe I think as well.
And some other stuff.
Oh yeah, there was...
The heater matrix wasn't working properly.
And there was also the rear wiper blade as well.
Yeah, rear wiper and the heating and cooled seat.
Yeah, the heating and cooled seat was another...
That was another sort of...
I do apologise for how much that cost, Tom,
but a deal was a deal.
A deal was a deal, yeah.
And you don't welch on the deal.
A deal.
Since City BFW Chris has arrived.
My Range Rover was getting fixed by Tom.
Yeah, you said it.
That's it.
And you're allegedly going to pick it up when we fly back in.
Yes.
With a bit of like, Ellie will be happy.
She will be very happy.
But yes, as we've just said, since City Chris has arrived,
so I am now going to step out
and Chris is going to take my spot.
Yay!
And you're going to see the two Toms...
Sorry, Chris and Tom.
Have a little chat.
Yeah.
Welcome, Chris.
Thank you for having me.
How are you feeling?
Much better.
First good night's sleep in a really long time.
So you had a bit of a win yesterday, didn't you?
We did.
But before you get into that,
introduce yourself to people who might not know.
Who you are.
My name's Chris.
I'm with Since City BMW.
We're here in Las Vegas, Nevada.
We specialise in service and restoration.
And we work on a lot of the vintage BMW race cars
with VARA and S-VARA.
We specialize in the restoration of 2002s and E30s.
And then we service all the modern vehicles.
We also run the Since City BMW Club of America.
And yeah, so we're a club-based shop.
So we're hobbyists and we're die-hard enthusiasts.
But you've had a bit of trouble recently.
Yes, you know.
We are always in trouble.
Automotive repair is just heavily regulated
and it's very difficult.
And this is our fifth shop in 15 years.
And when we found it, we were absolutely ecstatic
because it had been a dealership since 1985.
And we thought, well, what could possibly go wrong now?
Well, I'll give you the background.
As it turns out, quite a lot.
So, yeah.
Let's see.
We share the building with Chris.
Yeah.
Just into the parking lot.
Really?
You got a $2.
You got a really nice coin.
Don't worry.
I did exactly the same.
I used to talk on it like that.
And you've just done it.
You've got almost rested on each end, Chris.
All right.
Does it scratch your beard?
Is it better now?
Oh, that is nice.
Especially with a voice as chocolatey as yours.
We need to hear every word.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Should I start from the top?
No, you're good.
So we moved into this building about two and a half years ago
and we were excited because it had been a dealership since 1985.
We still get mail for Subaru of Las Vegas, Toyota
Audi Volkswagen of Las Vegas.
And we thought, wow, what a great find, an actual dealership.
Ten bays, lots of square footage, an acre of parking.
But somewhere along the way, we discovered a few things.
One, it's illegal to have a full keg and a fully stocked bar.
Okay.
Which I'm looking at currently.
I was unaware of that.
So now we have set up an actual club lounge upstairs,
which you guys will be seeing later.
Which we're enjoying.
I like the fact you don't go, actually, do you know what?
We're not allowed to do that.
Let's just get rid of it.
No, let's not do that.
Let's find a way around it.
We're going to fight and make someone's life really difficult.
Exactly.
You know, it's Las Vegas.
We're putting the sentence in city BMW.
Am I correct in saying you actually run the BMW car club of North America?
No, not North America.
We run our chapter, which is Las Vegas.
So the club has been around since 1969.
It's nationwide.
There's about 50,000 members throughout the nation.
And that's how our entire shop started.
So I joined the BMW club when I moved to Vegas.
I wanted to start doing some tracking of my E36 M3.
I was horrible at it, by the way.
And the next thing you know, at a club meeting, I met Patrick.
We opened up a hobby shop for club members.
And a couple of years later, we opened up the public.
And we ended up doing a few films with BMW in Germany.
So you said this yesterday, you opened up a hobby shop.
So does that mean you would like for the club members to rent a ramp?
Was it that kind of thing?
Well, exactly.
We weren't open to the public.
You had to be a BMW club member.
And if you just needed something that was a little bit outside of the normal scheme of things,
like supercharging your M3, or you wanted to throw Brembo brakes on your M5,
or you had a vintage 2002 that you wanted help with,
Patrick and I would come down and open up a shop on weekends and evenings.
We both had jobs, but we were doing it.
So it was literally a hobby shop.
We were close to the public.
You had to be a club member.
And we loved that because they were our friends.
We were doing events with them, going on road trips, doing track events.
Hence the beer.
Yeah, exactly.
And it just became a pattern.
And we thought, OK, well, we don't want to stop doing it the way we're doing it.
So we'll just have to figure out how to make it legal.
We've done that now.
The lounge is exclusively for members.
And we're allowed to have private events.
You just can't store alcohol on a commercial property.
We learned that from the inspector.
He was actually quite kind in giving us the education.
It could have been a $20,000 fine.
I mean, every vocation of a license.
But instead, he just gave us an opportunity to correct it.
We went down to the city, talked to them, and they go, look.
As long as it's posted for events, and it's through the club,
and you're a nonprofit 5.1c3, you're not going to have a problem.
Just follow these rules and regulations.
And then I thought, well, maybe we should get a liquor license.
We could develop our own brewery.
And maybe that would be more profitable.
Because working on cars isn't.
I must say that I do love how passionate you guys are.
Not only about the cars, but looking after people and club members and BMW owners as well.
Well, that's a two-way street.
We have been absolutely accepted into the BMW community locally,
and they've supported us.
And when we did open our first shop,
it was the club members who banded together to help us set it up.
All of the desks, all of the furniture was all donated by club members.
Once we were open to the public, they were ecstatic
because they could tell their friends and families about us.
Because before that, it was kind of like, oh, I've got this great team of BMW mechanics.
Oh, where are they?
Oh, they kind of work out of this computer store down underneath the bridge.
It's like, your buddy might be a great chef,
but you're not going date night to his house.
You know what I mean?
And then once we had a legitimate restaurant, man, it just opened up like gangbusters.
Yeah.
So it was, it's just going to take a while to get used to it.
I've just pressed the mic back to his face again.
So what happened ironically was we got a call from BMW Germany and they said,
hey, you know, you run the BMW club Las Vegas.
And we're like, yes, we need an old BMW convertible.
We're doing a film with Tiesto.
Do you have one?
We said, of course.
And we loaned it to them.
Their film crew came in and our original shop that was open to the public
was the fire station.
And it was the fire station at Terminal 3 at Las Vegas Airport.
Which is where I first had us.
Yeah.
And if you didn't get shown where we were, you could never find us.
So the website I wrote in Latin, because I thought that was funny.
If you put in the address, it automatically retook you to the new fire station.
And if you called us, like we probably wouldn't answer anyway.
So you had to like have a secret handshake and find us and have been invited
by another club member.
So BMW came, they borrowed the car, they shot their music video with Tiesto
where they imported I think the M6 cabrios that weren't even released yet.
So they showed off some new cars.
That was fun.
The film crew fell in love with the shop.
They ended up entering us in a competition which was an anniversary film
of the three series.
And we won.
And so out of all of North America, our shop was the only pick.
They went to five countries.
Wow.
They sent some test footage back to BMW from that film.
BMW liked it so much they made another film with just us.
And at that point, they invited us to bring some of our restorations
to their 100 year anniversary at Pebble Beach in 2018.
Yeah.
And so we went from a hobby shop to doing four films with BMW,
putting our cars on display.
And at that point, it just sort of exploded.
And now we have 8,000 customers and a two year wait list with restorations.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you've been in a bit of trouble recently.
Not trouble, but I mean trouble is in, you've not been open.
Growth and expansion is always hard.
So the city came in and they were doing a courtesy notice
because we had some changes with the fire department separating buildings.
And they wanted to change our status to basically what's called a let it burn building.
And that means there's enough cars and accelerants and compressed gases inside.
They don't want the risk of a fireman coming in and getting injured in a fire.
So they just stand around the building outside and pour water on it and hope that helps.
Yeah.
And we're like, cool.
And then the alcohol situation happened.
We got that resolved.
And then as they did some more digging into the nature of the building,
they discovered that apparently in 1985 when the county rolled the property over to the city,
the parcels weren't combined.
The line goes through our building.
We're incorrectly zoned and we needed to rezone it.
But because of other zoning that we were in retail,
most of what we were doing in the back couldn't be done.
In other words, you can't have dismantled vehicles.
You can't have stored vehicles.
So effectively you weren't, the work you were carrying out, you weren't allowed to do.
Right.
And you know, as a restoration shop, even though that's only about 25% on what we do,
we've always been very fast at it because we had so many parts cars.
And by so many, I mean 116.
I remember coming here and just looking out at a sea,
like a car park full of axels and brakes and everything.
You remember.
I don't know about you, but for us, I felt like it was heaven.
It was great.
It was for us too.
Yeah.
So if you're into BMWs or you're into classic cars at all,
because, I mean, let's face it, I'm like the cat lady for old BMWs.
I'll save it.
I'm the same.
I'm very much the same.
How some of the cars got here, like I got a call from a customer.
She's a real estate agent.
She goes, Chris, I'm trying to close in this house.
There's these two junk cars in the back.
I don't know what to do.
And I'm like, oh, just send them to us.
I haven't told you what they are yet.
I love surprises.
And two Euro E23s showed up.
Come on.
What a win.
Yeah.
I mean, Euro bumpers, Euro lights, five speeds, manual seats, sunroofs.
One was damaged.
One wasn't.
So we took the two to make one and we saved another car and we gave a nice burial to the
one that we couldn't save.
But going back to the car box situation.
Yeah, thanks for being you had a scrapyard out.
We did.
And a few trip hazards, right?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
So apparently when we moved into this building, we hand packed 100,000 pounds of vintage car
parts.
Wow.
We filled 10 shipping containers.
Yeah.
And I know the weight because the max capacity was 10,000 per container.
And we kept having to pull parts out before they would pick them up and transport them.
When we got here, we spent about six months unpacking and sorting parts and going through
half of it.
And the other half, we just thought, well, if we leave it in the sun, it'll look prettier.
As the sun bleaches the aluminum transmissions and ABS control modules until they look brand
new.
But we always had cores for rebuilds.
We just had a plethora of parts.
And that has now unfortunately mostly gone into the dumpsters and recycling because we
just had to move quickly.
The business has been closed for a few months and we weren't going to pass city inspection
and not to mention our landlords like you're doing what.
So could you not just rent a yard somewhere where you could just?
Well, you can, but you figure a minimum, it's $100 per month per car if you're lucky, right?
So with 100 cars, that's 10 grand a month.
It's going to cost you 12 to 15,000 to tow them there because they don't run.
Now you're looking at 150 grand a year.
Plus it's going to be an hour away in uncorporated land.
So is there other companies out there in your world that have got all these parts on the
shelf?
So you make a couple of phone calls.
I need this.
I can get it quite easily.
I mean, if you're talking about 2002 restoration, I'd say probably 20 to 30% of the car is no
longer available.
So those parts we hoard.
You can't buy heater box.
You can't buy, you know.
So we just save them and that way when we're doing restoration.
You cherry pick the difficult stuff to get hold of and then the more common stuff you
dump.
Yeah.
And we've been able to save maybe 30% of it.
Yeah.
But we'll have to go through that as well because we can only fit so much inside.
And you know, it's a shame.
It's a very regulated industry.
I mean, when we ordered a dumpster just for the cleanup, they cancelled it.
And we called and said, well, where's our dumpster?
Oh, you're automotive.
You can't have a dumpster.
You have to go through the hazardous materials department to get a dumpster.
I'm all for sunroofs and doors and hoods.
These are vintage car parts.
It's not even plastic.
Yeah.
And they're like, yeah, it's car industry, you're regulated.
So it just makes it considerably difficult.
There's small margins in what we do.
Yeah.
And you really don't go into this industry unless you are passionate about cars, especially
old ones.
I've got a question because there's something we spoke about earlier.
What's in the, so we just down the road from you here when we were out test driving last
night, there was, I don't know, there was Mazda's and there's a BMW dealership.
So all the main dealers are literally lined up down this road just down the road.
How much an hour is it for, say, I don't know, the BMW main dealer?
What is the BMW main dealer down the road charge per hour, roughly?
We're actually one of the less expensive shops.
We're 195 an hour currently.
So is that like plus taxes?
Yes.
So there's only tax on parts in Nevada, not on labor, but the dealer is 265 an hour.
So we're immediately 30% less on most repair and voices.
So $260 is roughly 160, 170 quid.
It's actually not too bad.
It's all right.
Is that kind of equivalent to the UK?
UK is over over 200 pounds.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
So it would be like near, yeah, probably near sort of like 300 and twenty
500 and fifty dollars an hour.
There's about five independent shops for BMWs in Las Vegas.
I'm friends with the owners of all of them.
We try and keep open communication that way.
You know, if they need a part, we probably have it.
We're used to.
And because we're club based, you know, we just try and make sure everybody's doing OK.
And even the dealership, we have a great relationship with them.
Sometimes they need vintage parts.
We just had to give them a DME for an E30 because, you know, they had a customer
with a fried one.
So we've always tried to maintain good relationships with everybody in the valley.
And therefore I know all the labor rates and we're at the bottom.
Which we may have to change to pay for the last few months.
Yeah, because you've been very busy cleaning up, haven't you?
So yeah, it's been a criteria effort, dumpsters, storage pods, which we then
have, you know, the treasure put in and then that's taken off site and stored.
And then if we have a car that comes in that needs those parts, we'll bring
the pod down, take the parts out that we need, send it back.
But after all of that, you have cleaned up and you have passed.
Yes, one.
Yeah.
This place does look amazing.
Doesn't it?
That's right.
Honestly, spick and span.
But I came in yesterday and you started showing me around.
I was like, wow, OK, this is, this is, you know, this place is good.
The workshop itself, you could probably do it a little bit more organized and
clean. Well, and to be fair, we had to bring everything in from outside.
And now that we're sorting that out, we've got to finish cleaning up the shop.
But yeah, this office area and your reception downstairs and, you know,
and where you've got the cars in sort of like showroom area, if one of the better
word, this is, this is, you know, it's really, really organized.
It's amazing.
It's the bollocks.
Yeah, yeah, we absolutely love it.
And I like that.
It's not the first time I've been here, but every time I come here,
I'm more amazed like with the cars you have and the place.
Oh, there's a car downstairs that you really like.
There's a car downstairs that I'm obsessed with.
Because it's the six series.
You can take it with you.
I would love it.
Six series is really cool.
So it's not only a six series, is it?
It's not. It's an M6.
Yeah. So it's a BMW E24, 1987.
88.
88, M6.
World Tuck Bumpers.
So that's the desirable one for us.
And it's black.
It's got gray, half leather, half cloth,
and you guys have restored it.
Yes, yeah.
And it's got a big, soda cooler in there.
It does have a very good soda cooler.
But yeah, it's a 24 valve proper M6.
Yeah, but even I found myself looking at it
and noticing things like from differences from your car.
You know, like I said, I'm like the rear console, you know, the stuff like that.
You know, things I didn't even know about that car that it had.
Because you're big into restorations, obviously.
That's what you do as well, Tom.
We kind of commented on this yesterday.
You know, it's the, it doesn't matter what badge is on the car.
You know, you can spot quality of restoration quality.
You can't, you can't disguise workmanship because I have a good,
you know, it's either OK or it's bad.
You know, there's somewhere in between and what I'm seeing here is excellent.
So when I was just like, I'm looking around the car and I'm like,
you know, I'm not driven the car down the road.
I'm not done anything.
I'm just looking at the way that it's prepped
and the work that's been carried out and visually what I can see.
I can't, I can't feel it.
Yeah, it's stunning.
Well, I appreciate that.
And coming from you, someone in the industry, that really means a lot.
Yeah, thank you.
Look, I feel the same when people look at the cars that we've done.
And, you know, there's no better compliment than someone
in the industry that's doing that same job.
Yeah. You know, it's it's blown away with that.
Absolutely blown away with that.
Well, and my job is really to talk people out of restoration
because it always takes much longer than anyone expects
and it costs more than anyone can anticipate.
So I'm actually the shield.
I just tell them, go find a car that you love to paint on.
Maybe it's a little upholstery work.
We can always do mechanical work.
That's the cheapest.
The cheapest way of restoring car is to buy one that someone else has done.
Absolutely.
Yeah, because they spent the money.
Yeah, exactly.
Someone else has already spent the day.
Yeah. So we've actually got videos coming out
and we've got a bit of a walk around with Chris as well.
There's some amazing projects that you're working on.
We've also got the podcast.
We're going to be buying a car as well.
Chris is going to be helping us out with that.
Yeah, can't we?
So we're very excited.
But yeah, so like last thing before we go,
we've obviously got Chris from Merch here
and we've got Chris from Sin City here.
And you won't be offended when we tell you
that we refer to you as Crazy Chris.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Because you have got much better than...
Boring, Chris.
Yeah, the time that we spent with you and, like,
Tom, you were a test...
Like, our test drive yesterday in the Mercedes G-Wagon.
That wasn't a test drive. That was reckless.
That was Grand Theft Auto.
Yeah, it was reckless.
But the time that I've always...
Maybe careless.
That's a different classification of ticket.
The time that I've always spent with you, Chris,
has always been like...
It's just been burned into my cold memories.
And I've already told the guys and everyone here
about the road cones exploding.
Oh, good.
That was one of the best moments of my life.
It was so much fun.
But yeah, you have crammed in so much into your life
and you have so many stories to tell.
Yes.
I just wonder, is there one story, like,
just a bit of a kind of like WTF story
that maybe you have, like, that you can tell us about?
That, you know, just...
A lot of people won't quite believe,
but they will because it's coming from your mouth.
Wow, you'd have to narrow it down.
Okay. The cats?
Oh, okay. Oh, right, sure.
Rory screamed the cats.
Yeah, we've...
Oh, the cats.
So, one thing you need to know about Chris, right?
He's very, very clever and he doesn't live by the rules.
So, if there's a rule to be broken, he will break it.
If and when he gets caught, he will fight it
and he will make that person's life a misery
until they back down.
You are a one-man band.
You're very well-informed when it comes to law as well.
We've been swimming against the current for quite some time.
Yeah.
Um, uh...
If you need a lawyer...
Yeah.
That's what I call Chris.
Yeah.
There's billboards everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, we had a really unique shop
and I won't tell you where it was or what it was
because that'll give it too much away,
but it was on federal property.
So, we were restricted to a whole different level of regulation.
And I remember that, you know,
they decided that our boneyard, once again,
was not pretty to look at.
Yeah.
And so, I think I responded by like,
we'll move your office to the other side of the building.
At which point, they sent me a request
to clean it up and beautify it.
At which point, I set them a proposal for like 40 grand
to stretch white canopy tents over the building
so they couldn't see it and put some containers in for the parts,
hide the cars in between the containers,
at which point, they said, well, we're not paying that.
And I'm like, well, you're the one that doesn't like to look at it.
Yeah.
And they go, well, we're ordering you to clean it up.
And I'm like, look, we've been here three years.
We've set precedent.
You can't roll over in bed three years into the marriage
and tell me I'm ugly and get out.
It doesn't work that way.
So, they didn't like that response.
But legally, I was right.
There was a precedent.
We've been that way since day one, kind of like here.
So, then they hit us with a, we saw you sanding a car in the grass.
And it was a 1970s BMW that was red.
We're going to send the EPA in to test for lead pigment in the soil.
Oh, God.
So, they sent a guy over and he start putting a plug in
and putting a flag and doing these core samples.
And of course, we knew that they had other problems in their area.
So, we had our guy come along and do a plug three times deeper
and put a flag and they're like, well, what are you doing?
Well, we're testing for fuel contamination.
And if we find it, you'll have to remove all the local businesses
and dig 10 meters down to replace the earth.
Plenty hell.
And they went, well, we'll stop our test if you stop yours.
And I went, OK.
And then, not three months later, I get a call from our landlord
and she's like, do you have pets?
And I'm like, oh, I don't do surveys.
She's like, no, they're shop.
Do you have pets?
And I'm like, no, no pets.
You're sure?
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
OK, 10 days later, she calls crying and I'm like, oh, my God,
what did we do this time?
You said you don't have pets and I'm a pet lover and they have films
of you feeding feral cats and they're sending trucks to euthanize them
because you can't have cats on federal property, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, they're not touching our cats.
And as most of you probably know, BMW uses peanut oil as a lubricant
to get the wiring into the sheath.
And after about 10 years here in the desert, that becomes yummy on peanut
brittle and we have a huge rodent problem with wiring harnesses.
They literally will climb into your engine bay when it's cold and just go,
oh, yum. Yeah.
And then eat away.
And then we have all these repairs to do.
So you like cats because they get rid of any road.
Yes, I mean, it's not like I went to feralcats.com and downloaded nine cats.
I was there as a food source, right?
So. So is this genuinely true?
You didn't implant a ton of cats.
They just. No, they just randomly shut up a ton of mice around.
So I demanded a five year road into eradication study
from the federal property we were on.
And by the time they realized they didn't have to reply to that,
because we were a subtenant, they sent trucks along to get the cats.
And I came out and I'm like, what are you doing?
And they're like, well, we have we're sorry, but we have to collect the cats.
I'm that would be legal.
We have formed the Clark County Coalition of Cats.
And this is now a legal cat colony.
We have trapped, spayed, neutered and chipped these cats.
And by the way, the chips didn't make the cats any faster.
Huge disappointment.
And I go, they can now live out their natural lives here.
Amazing. And they're looking through the rules.
They can't figure this out. This is an old rule.
They changed it since then.
Right. This program of mine.
But yeah, so they they couldn't touch our cats.
Amazing. You were legally a cat colony.
Yeah. And you're allowed nine cats.
We had nine cats. I'm like, perfect.
What was the colony called?
I can't tell you because that'll give away the location.
But when we did move out,
we relocated all the cats to my parents' property.
They have several acres up in Reno, nice ranch area.
And we took them all up in lion cages.
Really? One of our customers has the lion habitat here in Las Vegas.
Sure. Of course, he does.
So they've got 50 lions, all descendants of Leo, the lion,
which you'll remember from all the MGM movies in America, where it roars,
you know, all his kids running around.
So that's a great place to hang out.
So you should take your daughter there while you're here.
OK, yeah, I'll try and do that.
We have everything in Vegas.
We can literally sit here and talk to Chris about his crazy stories
for like many, many days.
But we're already like an hour and a half in.
We've got a car to buy, don't we, Rory?
And Chris is going to help us.
Let's go shopping. Yeah, we're going to call it there.
But yeah, hopefully that's a little bit of insight
into Chris's amazing brain and into Sin City BMW.
If anyone in the Vegas region has got an old BMW
and they need some work doing, can they come to you soon?
Very soon. Very, very soon. Very soon. Again.
Again, again. So we'll be reopening.
We've been in business for 15 years, but not in a row.
Not in a row.
Not enough for about eight years.
Anyway, we're going to call it there.
Thank you again to Chris for joining us.
And also for hosting this amazing place.
We love it here.
And we're very excited to now go and buy a car
with seven and a half thousand dollars.
There's a nice M6 downstairs.
Seven and a half that hold out your hand.
You could rent it for that.
But yeah, we're going to call it there.
Whatever you do, do it to the best of your ability.
Thank you very much for listening with your ear holes and your eye holes.
We will see you next time on the Auto Alex podcast in a bit.
It's hot, isn't it? It's warm.
It's warm. Let's go buy a car.
Cheers. Bye.
About this episode
Banter and Vegas travel set the tone as the crew talks listener car updates, then dives into the “crew car” quest: a $5,000 budget that turns into a bet, roulette luck, and the practical need for reliability—especially when the car has no air con. They also share why vehicle-history checks matter, including a CarVertical story exposing crash damage and odometer fraud. Between workshop chaos, custom BMWs, and cross-country plans, the episode blends used-car strategy with real-world risk.
24 valve
4.2 diesel
ABS control module
aftermarket company
air suspension
aluminum transmissions
autobiography
BMW main dealer
boot
Brembo
Audi A4
BMW 2002
BMW 3 Series
BMW 5 Series
BMW 6 Series
BMW 7 Series
BMW M2
BMW M3
BMW M5
BMW M6
BMW X2
BMW Z3
Cadillac Escalade
Ford Bronco
Ford Transit Custom
Land Rover Freelander
Land Rover Freelander 2
Land Rover Range Rover
Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Mercedes-Benz G-Class
Porsche Cayenne
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model Y
Toyota Supra
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